FOFC Crawl Comp #5-Octopode Venom Mage

[Thomkal]

Well I guess I'll start this since nobody else has. :) In honor of the new race being added to this version of Crawl, the Octopode, I've decided to use it for this Comp. The original idea was to use your choice of Elementalist for it, but I was looking back at the previous Comps, and saw we had already done an Ice Elementalist. Was going to go Wizard, then saw Venom Mage recommended as something that has an easy time early on. Given that some of us might be rusty (like me) with our Crawl skills or new to the game entirely, this seemed like a nice way to ease ourselves back into the game. I've not tested it though so may not turn out that great in the long run.

First off-make sure you have the latest version of Crawl, 10.2 because there are no Octopodes in previous versions. You can download the game here:

Downloads « Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup (http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads)

I much prefer the graphical version. I would recommend doing a search for Crawl Comp in this forum and read through the first comp for sure and maybe the second as a lot of good advice and helpful tips were given there. You can also check out the link to the Tavern on the downloads page-its a forum with a ton of good info/help. Don't be shy if you haven't played before-the game comes with a tutorial mode you can try first-and as you'll see if you read the first comp, many of us will help you if you need it here. And a complete newcomer won one of the comps, so everyone has a shot of winning.

We'll go with High Score-you can post your morgue dumps here (you may need to kill your current character at the end to get a dump-can't remember if we found a workaround for that or not). Make sure you use code tags for sure and spoilers tag if you want as the dumps are quite large.

As with the first comps, please post regularly with your experiences-funny/embarassing/annoying deaths-great finds (and remember an Octopode can wear eight rings!), last second saves, ideas on how to use your spells, etc. Please post in here to let me know you are participating. Let's set an end date of July 1 at midnight EST since its a nice easy to remember end point.

:::waves his tentacles in greeting and celebration of the new comp:::

[Zinto]

I am in, but it will be my first time playing this game as a caster so we shall see how it goes

[Grover]

Count me in. First time player.

[Thomkal]

Welcome Zinto and Grover! One thing to remember is that it costs food to cast spells, so you can't just use them on every mob you meet. Save them for tougher mobs (hobgoblins and snakes for example on level 1) if you can and try to find alternate ways of fighting easier mobs (rats and bats for example on level 1)

[Thomkal]

One thing I'm noticing with the Octopod is its ability to constrict mobs-grab hold of them to prevent them from moving away and doing damage every round they are held. You start out with a decent amount of stealth-so it is possible to fight without a weapon early on if you want to save your Sting spell (which does a lot of damage starting out) for the more threatening mobs. Haven't found any rings yet with my Octowizzy, but I'm still on Level 1. :)

[Thomkal]

Made it to the second level of the dungeon with my guy without too much trouble but did have to rest a lot from damage taken and regen mana. Was hungry a lot towards the end of exploring level 1, thankfully had found a couple pieces of fruit and of course had corpses to eat.

I found my first piece of jewelry-an amulet-was hoping for gourmand to help with the food crisis, but alas it was an amulet of rage-which is pretty funny when you think about it, a berserker spell casting Octopode-but will actually be nice in a life or death situation. Made it to Character Level 3 and have picked up the mighty Mephitic Cloud spell-Just remember to make sure you are out of the radius when you cast it!

[Thomkal]

So how's everybody doing so far? Just found my first ring...and it was cursed of course. Thankfully had a scroll of remove curse. I'm now out of food, so may not last long with this guy. Which is why I'm not a big fan of the spells using up food part of Crawl. I like the idea behind it, but it makes me stay away from the pure spellcasting classes unless I pick a race that helps with food issues.

[Thomkal]

Moving down to level 3 of the dungeon now after exploring level 2, one of my favorite level layouts, five rows of small interconnected rooms. Food issues a little better found an apple and forgot I had a potion of porridge. No runed or glowing weapons found yet, no rings besides the cursed one, and no potions of curing/heal wounds ID'ed yet.

[Grover]

Moving down to level 2 of the dungeon. 17% from XL3. Found a +2 glowing elvish whip. Haven't had to expel any mana yet, which is nice. Have a pot of heal wounds and restore abilities.

[Zinto]

After a couple of poor showings, I finally made it down to the third level of the dungeon only to run into some Orcs and was hit by a smite which ended that Octopode's life.

[Thomkal]

Just started Dungeon Level 3, and my guy found another amulet..this time it was the Amulet of the Gourmand though. :) I likely will die within five paces after posting this.

[Zinto]

Well started on my next guy and pushed through the first level of the dungeon without using any spells. Got to level two and is really close to level three. Also found a ring of magical power which will be helpful going forward.

[Zinto]

And then I flew through the second level of the dungeon. It was smaller level and there was not any exciting items. The coolest thing was one of my favorite rooms I have seen with a bunch of dead minotaurs and some beef jerkey. I leveled up twice and learned Mephitic Cloud. My food situation is looking pretty good right now too since I have two loafs of bread on three sticks of beef jerkey.

[Zinto]

Well, on level three everything was looking pretty good. I found a ring of wizardry and was sitting on three loafs of bread, two sticks of beef jerky, and an apple. Unfortunately I ran into the ghost of dungeon crawlers past and was easily handled by him as I tried to run away.

[Thomkal]

Well, on level three everything was looking pretty good. I found a ring of wizardry and was sitting on three loafs of bread, two sticks of beef jerky, and an apple. Unfortunately I ran into the ghost of dungeon crawlers past and was easily handled by him as I tried to run away.

Ooof that was looking pretty sweet for you with the Wizardry/Magical Power 1-2 punch. I hate player ghosts-oh they are cool and all, but always seem way overpowered for the level that you encounter them on. I would have tried to run away too.

[Thomkal]

Just hit character level 6 while on Dungeon Level 4. Been running for my life a bit-avoiding named mobs-Duvessa and her lover on this level, which is mostly open. Nearly died to a worker ant, but my constriction saved me just in time.

[Izulde]

So I downloaded the Mac version for the hell of it but it crashes whenever I open it.

[thesloppy]

I can't stop playing Football Manager, but once I do, I'm on this. I suck at spellcasters even more than the usual fare, so I'm sure it'll be quick and tragic.

[Thomkal]

So I downloaded the Mac version for the hell of it but it crashes whenever I open it.

Sorry to hear that Izulde. You might ask at The Tavern in their Technical Support forum to see if anybody can help.

Index page • The Tavern (https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/)

[Thomkal]

I've made it Character Level 7 after taking out Jessica and getting lucky taking out Sigmund and a few orcs hanging out around the Temple. Sif Muna altar was not in the Temple so went with Vehumet instead.

Successfully avoided D&D on that level and another worker ant after the last one nearly killed me-have to leave Dungeon Level 4 a bit unexplored to stay away from them, but I'd rather live than risk it on them.

[dzilla77]

I hate ghosts of adventurers past and jellies!

[Thomkal]

I've made it Character Level 7 after taking out Jessica and getting lucky taking out Sigmund and a few orcs hanging out around the Temple. Sif Muna altar was not in the Temple so went with Vehumet instead.

Successfully avoided D&D on that level and another worker ant after the last one nearly killed me-have to leave Dungeon Level 4 a bit unexplored to stay away from them, but I'd rather live than risk it on them.

Sadly have to report the death of the original Octowizzy here. Had successfully snuck around an ogre on dungeon level 5 but then woke him up. Had him poisoned, but it wasn't killing him quickly and three hits of his giant club did me in. Had an Un-ID'ed wand of fireballs that I forgot to try out, might have saved me, but had no healing an an Un-Id'ed Scroll of Teleportation.

Shame though had just got Vehumet's power of getting mana back with each kill, and needed one more level to learn Venom Bolt spell. Will probably start Octowizzy2 later today. How is everyone else doing?



Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.2 character file.

915 OctoWizzy the Stinger (level 7, -17/41 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 12, 2012.
Was a Follower of Vehumet.
Demolished by an ogre
... wielding a +0,+0 giant club
(18 damage)
... on Level 5 of the Dungeon on June 16, 2012.
The game lasted 01:56:02 (8209 turns).

OctoWizzy the Stinger (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 8209, Time: 01:56:02

HP -17/41 AC 7 Str 8 XL: 7 Next: 70%
MP 7/13 EV 12 Int 19 God: Vehumet [*.....]
Gold 192 SH 7 Dex 12 Spells: 3 memorised, 4 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . b - +2,+0 short sword (protect)
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . j - +0 elf buckler
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . d - +1 orc wizard hat
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . A - amulet of the gourmand
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . (no ring)
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . (no ring)
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (no ring)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Gourmand : + Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, camouflage 1, tentacles 3, AC +1
a: Renounce Religion


You were on level 5 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 6 of its levels.

You collected 172 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
a - a +2,+1 sling
b - a +2,+0 short sword of protection (weapon)
z - a +0,+1 falchion of holy wrath
D - a +1,+2 sling
Missiles
g - 47 +0 sling bullets
k - 133 +0 darts (quivered)
p - 138 +0 stones
B - 3 +3 darts
Armour
d - a +1 orcish wizard hat (worn)
j - a +0 elven buckler (worn)
Magical devices
t - a wand of slowing (1)
w - a wand of fireball (6) {unknown}
Comestibles
l - 3 bread rations
s - a meat ration
Scrolls
e - 2 scrolls of remove curse
f - 2 scrolls of fog
n - a scroll of random uselessness {unknown}
o - a scroll of curse jewellery {unknown}
q - a scroll of enchant weapon II {unknown}
v - a scroll of enchant armour {unknown}
y - a scroll of teleportation {unknown}
E - a scroll of blinking {unknown}
Jewellery
m - an uncursed amulet of rage
x - an uncursed ring of sustenance {unknown}
A - an amulet of the gourmand (around mantle)
G - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion {unknown}
Potions
h - a potion of porridge
i - a potion of cure mutation
r - a potion of restore abilities
u - a potion of speed {unknown}
C - a potion of resistance {unknown}
Books
c - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5


Skills:
+ Level 1.1 Fighting
+ Level 0.1 Short Blades
+ Level 3.5 Slings
+ Level 3.3 Throwing
+ Level 3.3 Dodging
+ Level 4.0 Stealth
+ Level 1.8 Stabbing
+ Level 0.2 Shields
+ Level 1.7 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 2.3 Spellcasting
+ Level 1.7 Conjurations
* Level 6.9 Poison Magic


You had 4 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ####. 3% 1 Sultana
b - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj ###...... 21% 3 Choko
c - Cure Poison Pois #####..... 1% 2 Choko


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (5/27) Temple (1/1) D:4

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Annotations
D:4 Dowan, Duvessa


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.


Message History

You barely miss the ogre. Your squeeze misses the ogre.
The ogre is heavily wounded.
The ogre hits you with a giant club!
You hit the ogre.
The ogre is severely wounded.
You block the ogre's attack.
You hit the ogre but do no damage.
The ogre is severely wounded.
The ogre looks more healthy. The ogre hits you with a giant club!
Ouch! That really hurt!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You hit the ogre but do no damage. Your squeeze misses the ogre.
The ogre is severely wounded.
The ogre closely misses you.
You hit the ogre.
The ogre is severely wounded.
The ogre hits you with a giant club!
You die...

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You could see an ogre and a giant gecko skeleton.

Vanquished Creatures
A centaur (D:5)
Sigmund (D:4)
A crimson imp (D:5)
2 hounds (D:4)
6 orc priests
An orc wizard (D:4)
A worker ant (D:5)
Jessica (D:3)
7 adders
3 gnolls (D:5)
2 worms
4 giant geckos
An ooze (D:1)
12 orcs
14 bats
3 giant cockroaches
9 goblins
15 hobgoblins
A jackal (D:1)
A quokka (D:4)
4 ball pythons
9 giant newts
13 kobolds
A kobold skeleton (D:4)
An orc skeleton (D:4)
An orc zombie (D:5)
17 rats
A rat zombie (D:5)
A plant (D:1)
5 toadstools
139 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
An orc (D:5)
A goblin (D:1)
A hobgoblin (D:1)
A kobold (D:5)
9 toadstools
13 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 152 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | OctoWizzy, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
107 | D:1 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
115 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
704 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/17 MP: 2/4
1405 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/21 MP: 5/5
1588 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
2187 | D:2 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
2265 | D:2 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
2479 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
2932 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
3034 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
3065 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
3065 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/27 MP: 4/7
3859 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/8
4376 | D:3 | Noticed Jessica
4615 | D:4 | Noticed Duvessa
4694 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
4694 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
4871 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
5277 | D:4 | Noticed Dowan
5400 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 33/36 MP: 10/10
5689 | D:3 | Killed Jessica
5822 | D:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
6102 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
6106 | D:4 | Noticed Sigmund
6110 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
6426 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
6785 | D:4 | Killed Sigmund
6785 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
6785 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 41/41 MP: 2/12
8174 | D:5 | Acquired Vehumet's first power
8207 | D:5 | HP: 1/41 [ogre/giant club (21)]
8209 | D:5 | Demolished by an ogre

[dzilla77]

Here is my best effort so far:
8 Ball X the Tainter (Octopode Venom Mage)


Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.2 character file.

1582 8 Ball X the Tainter (level 8, 0/47 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 16, 2012.
Was a Follower of Vehumet.
Slain by a jelly (2 damage)
... on Level 6 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 00:51:36 (5824 turns).

8 Ball X the Tainter (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 5824, Time: 00:51:36

HP 0/47 AC 1 Str 8 XL: 8 Next: 66%
MP 6/18 EV 13 Int 17 God: Vehumet [*.....]
Gold 196 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 5 memorised, 0 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + v - +3,+4 quarterstaff (chaos)
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . (no shield)
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (no amulet)
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . l - ring of see invisible
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . (no ring)
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (no ring)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: about to teleport, slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, carnivore 1, spit poison 1,
camouflage 1, tentacles 3, AC +1, Int -1
a: Spit Poison, Renounce Religion


You were on level 6 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was most pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 6 of its levels.

You collected 176 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
d - a +1,+1 dwarven dagger
g - a +2,+1 short sword
p - a +1,+1 dagger of returning
r - a +1,+1 dwarven short sword
s - a +2,+0 elven long sword
u - a +1,+1 long sword of holy wrath
v - a +3,+4 quarterstaff of chaos (weapon)
Missiles
f - 30 +0 darts (quivered)
h - 4 poisoned +0 darts
j - a +1 dart
k - 4 +0 darts of flame
m - 2 +2 darts
Magical devices
a - a wand of teleportation (8)
Comestibles
c - 2 bread rations
w - a meat ration
Scrolls
e - a scroll of teleportation
i - 3 scrolls of identify
n - 4 scrolls of remove curse
o - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
q - a scroll of magic mapping {unknown}
Jewellery
l - a ring of see invisible (on tentacle)
Potions
t - a potion of magic
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
*Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
*Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5


Skills:
+ Level 1.4 Fighting
+ Level 1.1 Long Blades
+ Level 0.3 Staves
+ Level 1.3 Throwing
+ Level 3.9 Dodging
+ Level 4.5 Stealth
+ Level 0.7 Stabbing
+ Level 2.1 Traps & Doors
+ Level 0.7 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 4.3 Spellcasting
+ Level 3.9 Conjurations
+ Level 1.0 Air Magic
+ Level 8.2 Poison Magic


You couldn't memorise any spells.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ####. 1% 1 None
b - Cure Poison Pois #####..... 1% 2 Strawberry
c - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj ####..... 10% 3 Choko
d - Olgreb's Toxic Radia Pois #####.... 8% 4 Honeycomb
e - Venom Bolt Pois/Conj ####...... 38% 5 Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (6/27)
Temple: D:4-7 Orc: D:6-11

Altars:
Sif Muna
Vehumet
Yredelemnul
Zin

Annotations
D:2 Sigmund
D:6 8 Ball VII's ghost, experienced OpVM


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.
Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.
You are dopey (Int -1).
You can spit poison.


Message History

a spear; a gnoll corpse
You hear a slurping noise.
You sock the jelly!
Your +3,+4 quarterstaff of chaos resists.
The jelly is moderately wounded.
The jelly misses you.
You hit the jelly.
Wisps of condensation drift from your quarterstaff of chaos.
The jelly is moderately wounded.
The jelly hits you! You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel better. The jelly hits you. You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll labeled GHUBEDDIALOOD, it crumbles to dust.
You feel strangely unstable. It was a scroll of teleportation. The jelly hits you.
You die...

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You could see a jelly.

Vanquished Creatures
Grinder (D:4)
Prince Ribbit (D:4)
A sky beast (D:5)
2 ogres
The ghost of 8 Ball II the Stinger, an average OpVM (D:4)
Blork the orc (D:5)
A crimson imp (D:6)
Crazy Yiuf (D:4)
An orc priest (D:3)
A worker ant (D:4)
An orc wizard (D:5)
2 worm zombies (D:5)
Ijyb (D:5)
7 adders
10 gnolls
A scorpion zombie (D:6)
4 giant mites
2 worms
A giant eyeball (D:6)
7 giant geckos
An ooze (D:1)
15 orcs
7 giant cockroaches
15 goblins
12 hobgoblins
20 kobolds
A quokka (D:5)
2 ball pythons
17 bats
4 giant newts
11 rats
2 toadstools
154 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
A gnoll (D:3)
18 toadstools
19 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 173 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | 8 Ball X, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
77 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
229 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 9/17 MP: 0/4
233 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
811 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 14/21 MP: 2/5
1213 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
1237 | D:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
1237 | D:2 | Noticed Sigmund
1673 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/27 MP: 0/7
1730 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
2005 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/31 MP: 2/9
2010 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
2503 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
2614 | D:4 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
2667 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
2667 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 36/36 MP: 7/11
2711 | D:4 | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance
2744 | D:4 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
2755 | D:4 | Killed Crazy Yiuf
2961 | D:4 | Noticed 8 Ball II's ghost (average OpVM)
2986 | D:4 | Killed 8 Ball II's ghost
3106 | D:4 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
3114 | D:4 | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
3224 | D:4 | Noticed Grinder
3241 | D:4 | Killed Grinder
3241 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
3241 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Poison Magic
3241 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 2/42 MP: 12/14
3862 | D:4 | Noticed Prince Ribbit
3870 | D:4 | Killed Prince Ribbit
3870 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
3870 | D:4 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 47/47 MP: 11/17
4129 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
4274 | D:5 | Noticed Ijyb
4285 | D:5 | Killed Ijyb
4440 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You can spit poison.
4440 | D:5 | Gained mutation: Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.
4440 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
4696 | D:5 | Acquired Vehumet's first power
4939 | D:5 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
5030 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Poison Magic
5205 | D:5 | Noticed Blork the orc
5218 | D:5 | Killed Blork the orc
5581 | D:5 | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt
5584 | D:6 | Noticed 8 Ball VII's ghost (experienced OpVM)
5799 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
5823 | D:6 | HP: 2/47 [acid (16)]
5824 | D:6 | Slain by a jelly

[Thomkal]

Ooof yeah had a jelly on that level with the Ogre I was avoiding too, so not surprised to see a death by jelly here.

[dzilla77]

And then 8 Ball X's ghost takes his revenge on my second best effort (although I nearly had him):
8 Ball XIV the Stinger (Octopode Venom Mage)

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.2 character file.

1410 8 Ball XIV the Stinger (level 8, -1/46 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 16, 2012.
Slain by 8 Ball X's ghost (17 damage)
... on Level 6 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 00:53:17 (5714 turns).

8 Ball XIV the Stinger (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 5714, Time: 00:53:17

HP -1/46 AC 1 Str 8 XL: 8 Next: 43%
MP 0/16 EV 18 Int 19 God:
Gold 206 SH 0 Dex 18 Spells: 4 memorised, 2 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . B - +4,+6 elf short sword (elec)
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . (no shield)
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (no amulet)
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . a - +6 ring of dexterity
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . h - +4 ring of evasion
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (no ring)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: confused, mildly poisoned, slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly
stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, mutation resistance 1, camouflage
1, tentacles 3, spike 1, AC +1
a: no special abilities


You were on level 6 of the Dungeon.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 6 of its levels.
You visited 1 portal chamber: ossuary.

You collected 186 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
j - a +1,+1 dwarven sabre
k - a +2,+3 quarterstaff of chaos
B - a +4,+6 elven short sword of electrocution (weapon)
C - a +1,+0 elven dagger
Missiles
q - 21 +0 darts (quivered)
y - 14 exploding +0 darts
Magical devices
d - a wand of lightning (5)
z - a wand of confusion (0)
Comestibles
t - a bread ration
Scrolls
g - a scroll of recharging {unknown}
l - 2 scrolls of fog
m - a scroll of blinking
r - a scroll of teleportation
s - a scroll of fear
w - a scroll of amnesia {unknown}
A - 2 scrolls of detect curse
D - a scroll of remove curse {unknown}
Jewellery
a - a +6 ring of dexterity (on tentacle)
h - a +4 ring of evasion (on tentacle)
Potions
c - a potion of magic
e - a potion of agility
f - a potion of degeneration {unknown}
i - a potion of curing
n - 2 potions of resistance
o - a potion of heal wounds {unknown}
p - 2 potions of confusion {unknown}
v - a potion of might {unknown}
x - a potion of restore abilities {unknown}
F - 2 potions of invisibility
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
*Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5


Skills:
+ Level 0.9 Fighting
+ Level 0.4 Short Blades
+ Level 0.8 Staves
+ Level 2.7 Throwing
+ Level 3.9 Dodging
+ Level 4.2 Stealth
+ Level 2.6 Stabbing
+ Level 2.0 Traps & Doors
+ Level 2.3 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 3.3 Spellcasting
+ Level 3.7 Conjurations
+ Level 1.5 Air Magic
+ Level 7.1 Poison Magic


You had 2 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ####. 1% 1 None
b - Cure Poison Pois #####..... 1% 2 Strawberry
c - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj ####..... 12% 3 Choko
d - Venom Bolt Pois/Conj ####...... 50% 5 Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (6/27)
Temple: D:4-7 Orc: D:6-11

Altars:
Fedhas
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Yredelemnul

Annotations
D:6 8 Ball X's ghost, experienced OpVM


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.
You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.
One of your tentacles bears a spike.


Message History

A hobgoblin comes into view.
Ouch! You are engulfed in noxious fumes. You choke on the stench!
You are more confused.
8 Ball X's ghost gestures at you while chanting.
The sting hits you!
You are poisoned.
Ouch! You are engulfed in noxious fumes. You choke on the stench!
You are more confused.
You feel sick. 8 Ball X's ghost barely misses you.
You are engulfed in noxious fumes. You choke on the stench!
You are more confused.
You miss 8 Ball X's ghost. You pierce 8 Ball X's ghost.
8 Ball X's ghost is almost destroyed.
You are engulfed in noxious fumes. You choke on the stench!
You are more confused.
8 Ball X's ghost whispers, "Everlasting silence awaits you..."
8 Ball X's ghost hits you!
You feel your power leaking away.
You are engulfed in noxious fumes. 8 Ball X's ghost hits you! You are electrocuted!
You die...

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You could see 8 Ball X's ghost and a hobgoblin.

Vanquished Creatures
Purgy (D:4)
2 ogres
2 centaurs (D:5)
Sigmund (D:3)
Duvessa (D:4)
Dowan (D:4)
A crimson imp (D:6)
2 scorpions
Crazy Yiuf (D:2)
2 orc priests (D:5)
4 orc wizards
2 hound skeletons (D:5)
An iguana (D:4)
4 worker ants
Jessica (D:3)
A jelly (D:5)
4 gnolls (D:5)
An adder zombie (D:4)
6 adders
2 giant geckos
An ooze (D:1)
15 orcs
A ball python (D:1)
3 giant cockroaches
10 goblins
3 hobgoblins
8 kobolds
2 quokkas
12 bats
9 giant newts
8 jackals (D:5)
A kobold zombie (D:5)
14 rats
A toadstool (D:3)
128 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
A crimson imp (D:3)
A human (D:3)
5 orcs
A hobgoblin (D:3)
A bat (D:3)
2 goblins
A rat (D:2)
15 toadstools
27 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 155 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | 8 Ball XIV, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
96 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
144 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/17 MP: 0/4
818 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
906 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 14/21 MP: 1/5
958 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
1121 | D:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
1358 | D:2 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
1366 | D:2 | Killed Crazy Yiuf
1366 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
1366 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/27 MP: 4/7
1518 | D:3 | Noticed Jessica
1705 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
1732 | D:3 | Killed Jessica
1792 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund
1870 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund
1870 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
1870 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
1870 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
1870 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 31/31 MP: 1/9
2380 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 29/36 MP: 1/11
2383 | D:4 | Noticed Duvessa
2392 | D:4 | Noticed Dowan
2832 | D:4 | Noticed Purgy
2847 | D:4 | Killed Purgy
2847 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
3284 | D:4 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
3356 | D:4 | Killed Dowan
3364 | D:4 | Killed Duvessa
3364 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 11/41 MP: 1/13
3636 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt
3670 | D:4 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
3821 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3991 | D:5 | Found a sand-covered staircase.
4016 | ossuary | Entered a tomb
4289 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
4509 | D:5 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
4536 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 44/46 MP: 2/16
4666 | D:5 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 2 turns
4668 | D:5 | Gained mutation: One of your tentacles bears a spike.
4668 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.
5013 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Poison Magic
5682 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
5687 | D:6 | Noticed 8 Ball X's ghost (experienced OpVM)
5714 | D:6 | Slain by 8 Ball X's ghost

[Thomkal]

Made it to Dungeon Level 2, and Character Level 3 with OctoWizzy2. Been lucky so far with items-found ID scroll right away then three more on the level, an always welcome ring of magical power, a +0, +3 hand axe I can throw since I then found a +2, +3 dagger of protection that brings my AC up to a "robust" 6.

[thesloppy]

First guy down. RIP Krumplestiltskin. He didn't make it very far, and it was a ton of work just to keep him stumbling around. It didn't help that I didn't find anything worth shit. This should be a fun one.



Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0 character file.

146 Krumplestiltskin the Stinger (level 3, -1/21 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 17, 2012.
Slain by an orc
... wielding a cursed -3,-1 orcish club
(3 damage)
... on Level 3 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 00:16:41 (2622 turns).

Krumplestiltskin the Stinger (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 2622, Time: 00:16:41

HP -1/21 AC 1 Str 8 XL: 3 Next: 97%
MP 6/6 EV 13 Int 17 God:
Gold 90 SH 0 Dex 12 Spells: 2 memorised, 1 level left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . j - +0 dagger
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . (no shield)
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . m - amulet of rage
Res.Poison: + Clarity : . k - ring of sustain abilities
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . q - ring of poison resistance
Sust.Abil.: + . Stasis : . (no ring)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, camouflage 1, tentacles 3, AC +1
a: Evoke Berserk Rage


You were on level 3 of the Dungeon.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 3 of its levels.

You collected 70 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
e - a +0,+0 dagger (quivered)
i - a +0,+0 flail
j - a +0,+0 dagger (weapon)
Missiles
g - 28 +0 darts
Comestibles
c - a bread ration
Scrolls
a - 2 scrolls of fog {unknown}
d - a scroll of identify
n - a scroll of teleportation {unknown}
o - a scroll of detect curse {unknown}
p - a scroll of random uselessness {unknown}
Jewellery
k - a ring of sustain abilities (on tentacle)
m - an amulet of rage (around mantle)
q - a ring of poison resistance (on tentacle)
Potions
h - a potion of brilliance {unknown}
l - 2 potions of curing {unknown}
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5


Skills:
+ Level 0.1 Fighting
+ Level 3.2 Dodging
+ Level 3.6 Stealth
+ Level 1.3 Spellcasting
+ Level 1.2 Conjurations
+ Level 5.9 Poison Magic


You had one spell level left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ###.. 6% 1 Strawberry
b - Cure Poison Pois ####...... 2% 2 Choko


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (3/27)

Altars:


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.


Message History

As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
f - a -1,+1 orcish dagger
You drop a -1,+1 orcish dagger.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You start resting.
HP restored.
You climb downwards. The giant cockroach closely misses you. The giant cockroach bites you.
The orc hits you with an orcish trident!
Ouch! That really hurt!
The orc hits you with an orcish club.
The kobold hits you with a runed elven whip.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The kobold closely misses you.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
The giant cockroach bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The orc closely misses you. The orc hits you with an orcish club.
You die...

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You could see a worm, an orc priest, 2 orcs, a giant cockroach and a kobold.

Vanquished Creatures
An adder (D:2)
A worm (D:2)
A giant gecko (D:1)
An orc (D:2)
3 giant cockroaches
4 goblins
4 hobgoblins
5 kobolds
2 ball pythons
8 bats
2 giant newts (D:1)
6 rats
38 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
2 toadstools
2 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 40 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | Krumplestiltskin, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
95 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
235 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 3/17 MP: 1/4
594 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
1503 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
1503 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/21 MP: 0/5
2622 | D:3 | Slain by an orc

[Thomkal]

Ooof the orc killed you with a cursed -3/-1 club, that's like adding insult to injury. :) Better luck next time.

[Narcizo]

Gah Thomkal! I was just getting off playing computer games altogether and then you go and mention this time sink.

[Thomkal]

Gah Thomkal! I was just getting off playing computer games altogether and then you go and mention this time sink.

I'm glad to help refuel the addiction. ;)

[Thomkal]

Lose out on +4 scale mail because its armor our octopode friend here can't wear :( But I do find an mace of crushing in that same group of orcs. Going to test it out but will probably stay with the dagger of protection due to the AC boost. I have to bypass my first portal, the sewers, because just about everything there resists poison. And I only have one food item-most everything in the sewers is poisonous to eat.

[Thomkal]

Have to fight Dowan and Duvessa on the next level, and mephitic cloud comes to the rescue big time. Kill them both and get two levels for it. One more level and I can get Venom Bolt.

[Thomkal]

faced down an ogre with my poison spells and a blowgun with poisoned needles and get revenge for OctoWizzy1. Heading to Dungeon Level 5.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Like the Werewolf thread, this is another that I'm bummed I won't have time to participate in. Once I get all moved in, I should have some free time, so I'll be back for the next challenge :)

[Grover]

I am tired of being foiled by an ooze on the first floor.

[Thomkal]

Like the Werewolf thread, this is another that I'm bummed I won't have time to participate in. Once I get all moved in, I should have some free time, so I'll be back for the next challenge :)

Bah the moving boxes can sit there for another day or two! :devil:

[Thomkal]

I am tired of being foiled by an ooze on the first floor.

You move faster than an ooze I believe (?) so you can outrun it if all else fails. I've not had a problem with them with this challenge though.

[Narcizo]

Off to to great start as I run into a kobold with a dagger of draining on the first level. 37 points. Things can only get better. Well, they can't get any worse anyway.

[Thomkal]

Off to to great start as I run into a kobold with a dagger of draining on the first level. 37 points. Things can only get better. Well, they can't get any worse anyway.

Oof, well it wasn't the first mob you saw was it? If not, then yes it can get worse. ;) Better luck with the new guy.

[Thomkal]

Just a reminder that this comp continues until the end of the month. I've got a guy who's just a little bit further than my first guy-how is everyone else doing?

[Thomkal]

I've found the portal to the Orcish Mines on Level 7 of the Dungeon and that makes for an interesting dilemma. Most of the time the Lair is the easier branch, but in reading the wiki it recommends Venom Mages in particular take on the Mines first since the only poison resistant mob there are wargs. Since I took out the guards around the enterance, including an Orc Warrior, pretty easily with Mephitic Cloud, so I'll likely head there after clearing the level.

Cue death post in 3...2...1 :)

[Thomkal]

Survived the level by avoid potential killers like an ice beast and mummy, then take about 30 hps from a spriggan baker of all things. :) Will try the orcish mines next time I play.

[thesloppy]

Just a reminder that this comp continues until the end of the month. I've got a guy who's just a little bit further than my first guy-how is everyone else doing?

I've had a dozen guys do slightly better than my first, but still so pitiful that they weren't worth mentioning.

[Grover]

I've had a dozen guys do slightly better than my first, but still so pitiful that they weren't worth mentioning.

I'm in the same boat. I've gotten to the Temple a couple of times, but some gigantic horde of beasts always pulls me down.

[thesloppy]

Octomage is tough!

[Grover]

Octodysseus made it pretty far this time, until three Centaurs surrounded him on the 6th floor and he could not avoid the arrows.

[CrimsonFox]

Jumping into the fray :)

[CrimsonFox]

Septopus the Unfortunate ready to go! He had an accident while fighting something sharp.

[CrimsonFox]

I constrict the sleeping giant cockroach! Oooh I love that! This game is very cool. I like the detail of color texts and level of woundedness.

[CrimsonFox]

can /should you eat corpses in this game?

[CrimsonFox]

LOL that didn't last long.

Ran into a kobold/rat/goblin congaline :)

[CrimsonFox]

okay the fact that you can join a religion and get benefits from it is just awesome.

So far Septopus V has made it the furthest in the family. Had a ring, got an enchanted tentacle and was looking good, but then on level 2 ran into some asshat thief named Sigmund who stole from him then pelted him with fire from afar.

[thesloppy]

Sigmund is one of the toughest early-game uniques, and your best bet is probably just to run, every time you see him.

[Thomkal]

can /should you eat corpses in this game?

You absolutely should eat corpses. Many spells cost Food to cast and so you will go hungry fairly quickly. You'll find a lot of regular food in the dungeon, but eating corpses are a necessity as well.

But eat the right ones-some will make you sick and weak, or poison you amongst other things. the 'v' key will let you examine things-and doing that on a corpse will tell you if its safe to eat or not.

You have to wait until you are hungry to eat corpses, as an act of last resort. Many races are like this, a few can eat them anytime. A magic item or two will as well (amulet of gourmand is often found early on). The strategy here is to save your "real" food till you have no other choice but to eat them, so stock up on cut up corpses-they will rot quickly and don't provide as much food as most food items, but they will keep you from dying from starvation unless you are very unlucky.

[CrimsonFox]

HAHAHAHA

I just used a scroll of identify on a scroll of identify. The same one I think. That was a neat trick.

[CrimsonFox]

yeah I realized it wasn't letting me eat corpses. Not even the bats and newts which are usually safe in other games. Thanks!

Is there a "cut up corpse" option?

[Thomkal]

okay the fact that you can join a religion and get benefits from it is just awesome.

So far Septopus V has made it the furthest in the family. Had a ring, got an enchanted tentacle and was looking good, but then on level 2 ran into some asshat thief named Sigmund who stole from him then pelted him with fire from afar.

Sif Muna and Vehumet are the two main gods for magic users-Vehumet probably is the better god for a venom mage. Yeah what Sloppy said about Sigmund-you don't want anything to do with him until you have Mephitic Cloud. If you are new to the game, its probably best to try to avoid all of the named mobs just to be safe.

[Thomkal]

yeah I realized it wasn't letting me eat corpses. Not even the bats and newts which are usually safe in other games. Thanks!

Is there a "cut up corpse" option?

Yep, its c. There's a nice in-game help in crawl if you hit ? then 4 for list of keys and commands.

[CrimsonFox]

my corpses are rotting away. :P

[Thomkal]

HAHAHAHA

I just used a scroll of identify on a scroll of identify. The same one I think. That was a neat trick.

Nice trick. :) With scrolls I usually wait till I get two or more of one then read one. If you get an item list to use the scroll on, you use the scroll and get some kind of message about it not working on that item, its likely a scroll of remove curse if you find it early on. There are scrolls of detect curse out there too. I usually stockpile a bunch of un'ID'ed items then read a scroll of detect curse on them to get the most benefit from them.

It took me a long time to come around to this strategy-but use your initial identify scrolls on potions. there's quite a few that can save your life and not just healing ones. So try to get them ID'ed as soon as possible.

[CrimsonFox]

all these skeletons ...haha this game is awesome. It is amazing that you SEE things before you can pick them up. And it tells you what they are just by seeing them

[CrimsonFox]

So far i've been lucky to drink cure potions when i was low on hp :)

[CrimsonFox]

i have batflesh. And so does bruce wayne.

[CrimsonFox]

ah okay now i can eat that flesh.

[CrimsonFox]

I never expected to ever hear:
"Some of the skeletons in your inventory have completely rotted away."

[CrimsonFox]

Septopus VI was mauled to death by a pack of jackals. :P

[CrimsonFox]

what about weapons. I'm really liking the tenatcle thing and the constriction. IS there a time when I should eventually use a weapon?

[CrimsonFox]

I'm feelling really good about Septopus VII :)
Mainly because the name
Drank a potion of porridge and got really full :)
Made it to level 3 killing a jelly cube and such .

[CrimsonFox]

crap. This is why I can only play so much of these. :) Went down to level 3. a bunch of slaves. They ALL follow me up and ALL hit me before I can do ANYTHING I die. :P

[CrimsonFox]

Septopus VIII drank a potion of blood. I hope he isn't a vampire squid now.

[CrimsonFox]

Question...what do I do with a dried up fountain (earlay in the morn-ing)

[CrimsonFox]

found a room FULL of minortaur flesh and beef jerky and red floors and walls. SCORE!

[CrimsonFox]

Septopus XVII is no fool. He's done well against the jellycubes and kobolds of the 1st level, taking things cautiously, not like his wrecklace ancestors before him. And he is the first since Septopus II to see Signmund on the second level. But having read Sept II's journal, he does the smart thing and closes the door.

[CrimsonFox]

Then he gets poisoned by Septopus XIII and dies. He never liked his relatives that's for sure.

[CrimsonFox]

I figured I'd better play through some tutorials at this point. Wow they REALLY focus on getting rest a LOT as well as ranged combat! Pint taken.

I've been using my tentacles mostly but I guess I should get into other weapons more.

But these are the best tutorials for a rogue game I've ever seen!

[Thomkal]

So far i've been lucky to drink cure potions when i was low on hp :)

Yep a last second "I've got to drink this and hope its a healing potion or I die" is also something you should do early on :) Again early on if you find multiples of a potion, odds are its a healing potion.

[Thomkal]

Septopus VI was mauled to death by a pack of jackals. :P

Dying often and dying early are the expected results for a new player. :) Jackals can be tough if found on the first level of the dungeon. When you get a pack like that, the idea is to try to lead them into a corridor so you can take them on one at a time. Once you get your Mephitic Cloud spell jackals won't be much of a problem anymore.

[CrimsonFox]

I basically drink every potion I can when I find them because I'll need to know what they are later.

I tried your stockpiling scrolls method and that does work. Eventually you run into the idientify :) although the FIRST time I tried this, of the 6 different scrolls I had (with multiples even) not one of them was an identify hahaha. It was mocking me. It's gone better since.

But man I keep getting screwed on level 2 or 3 by room situations. And I haven't ever gotten cure poison of cloud to work. It usually helps to kill me when i cast those :(

This character isn't easy

[CrimsonFox]

As if worms aren't bad enough (the hardest most deadly monster on the 1st/2nd level!), Septopus XX STARTED the game right next to a double attack Worm Zombie.


My best character so far was Septopus XIX. who did awesome until he met Grinder the mage who paralyzed him, teleported away then chased him with spells.

[Thomkal]

what about weapons. I'm really liking the tenatcle thing and the constriction. IS there a time when I should eventually use a weapon?

The good thing is even with a weapon in hand...er tentacle, you will still be able to constrict something with the other tentacles. So you should try to find a weapon. Look for something that adds damage to the normal weapon-like flame, cold, or venom. Creatures that are vulnerable to that will take extra damage. And comes in handy when facing poison resistant creatures. Probably shouldn't use a weapon of chaos till your more comfortable with what it can do. Be looking for artifact weapons (and other kinds) too. They are bright white when you see one so you will know its an artifact right away.

By all means get some kind of missile weapon. Darts and stones are found in great numbers usually early on. hit the = key to "reletter" your items. Put your missile weapon as b, your hand to hand weapon in c. Then hit the ' key to cycle between weapons. This will only let you switch between your tentacles and your missile weapon, so you will have to hit the w button to wield the hand to hand weapon. Slings, bows, and crossbows will be found, usually slings first. Be on the lookout for javelins and spears you can throw too. You can change what's in your quiver with the q or Shift-q key can't remember which right now. So you can have say darts in one of your other tentacles when carrying a hand to hand weapon or using your tentacles to attack with so you have a distance weapon until they get close enough to attack hand to hand.

[Thomkal]

Question...what do I do with a dried up fountain (earlay in the morn-ing)

Nothing that I am aware of-some fountains contain healing, most just water, and some poison I think. I usually just leave them alone unless I'm hurt.

[Thomkal]

found a room FULL of minortaur flesh and beef jerky and red floors and walls. SCORE!

Yeah you will find a lot of theme rooms like that, just adds to the fun of the game.

[Thomkal]

Septopus XVII is no fool. He's done well against the jellycubes and kobolds of the 1st level, taking things cautiously, not like his wrecklace ancestors before him. And he is the first since Septopus II to see Signmund on the second level. But having read Sept II's journal, he does the smart thing and closes the door.

See, you're learning! :)

[Thomkal]

Then he gets poisoned by Septopus XIII and dies. He never liked his relatives that's for sure.

Yeah player ghosts are another must run from-they normally are quite tough to beat, and in a venom mage's case, especially if you don't have the cure poison spells or cure poison potions.

[Thomkal]

I figured I'd better play through some tutorials at this point. Wow they REALLY focus on getting rest a LOT as well as ranged combat! Pint taken.

I've been using my tentacles mostly but I guess I should get into other weapons more.

But these are the best tutorials for a rogue game I've ever seen!

yeah the tutorials are well done and a must really for anyone who wants to try the game. The good thing is you can keep playing them after the tutorial is over with the nice start it gives you. There's also a hints mode you can try which will give your more advanced tips as you play.

[CrimsonFox]

Speaking of spears, Septopus XXI found a spear of venom. Stupidly he picked it up and carried it around. THen he put it down just in time.

[CrimsonFox]

How do I sacrifice? I just joined Nemelex and I'm going to sacrifice all of my armor to him I can't wear :)

[Thomkal]

I basically drink every potion I can when I find them because I'll need to know what they are later.

I tried your stockpiling scrolls method and that does work. Eventually you run into the idientify :) although the FIRST time I tried this, of the 6 different scrolls I had (with multiples even) not one of them was an identify hahaha. It was mocking me. It's gone better since.

But man I keep getting screwed on level 2 or 3 by room situations. And I haven't ever gotten cure poison of cloud to work. It usually helps to kill me when i cast those :(

This character isn't easy

That was my initial strategy when I first started playing but there are some nasty and potentially nasty potions out there that will poison you, drop your stats, or give you a mutation that can be pretty nasty. And you really don't want to drink a potion of paralyzation and have something come up you didn't see come up and beat the crap out of you either. :)

For improving your spell chance of successfully being cast, raise your INT when you get the choice to raise one of your stats starting at level 3. Also training your spellcasting skill will help here and raising both will help with spell hunger from casting so many of them. the m key is the skills key. Hit the letter of the spellcasting spell until it is highlited in white to train it more than your other skills. Turn off things like traps and doors training by hitting the letter until they turn black. Poison Magic obviously should be highlighted too.

Just be patient-the more you get to know the game, the better you will be able to handle situations on level 2 and 3 and beyond. And get Mephitic Cloud as soon as possible-you won't believe how much it makes life easier for you. Running away is always an option you should consider when faced with an unfamilar foe(s) till you either get in a better position to attack them or to avoid what you think might be a difficult encounter.

[CrimsonFox]

Never mind I found it.

[CrimsonFox]

yeah I have no patience. I wanna rocket through levels 1-3 now and that is doom. and yeah I was raising my strength just to help me survive but I'm gonna try INT now. I bet that's a big problem with my spells.

[CrimsonFox]

oooooooooooooh my god gave me a deck of cards hahaha :)

[CrimsonFox]

now how do I use these...hmmmm.

[Thomkal]

As if worms aren't bad enough (the hardest most deadly monster on the 1st/2nd level!), Septopus XX STARTED the game right next to a double attack Worm Zombie.


My best character so far was Septopus XIX. who did awesome until he met Grinder the mage who paralyzed him, teleported away then chased him with spells.

Wow starting next to a worm zombie? I wouldn't have thought that possible. The strategy with the worms to remember? You are faster than them. By the time you usually encounter then, your Sting spell should be strong enough to handle them. Get them poisoned, then take a step away and poison/ranged weapon them/repeat-get low on hit points? run away from them entirely.

Yeah Grinder is a bastard. I was playing another character, a troll barbarian who was just ruling the dungeon, met up with him, he was carrying a weapon of displacement-those weapons have a chance of sending a person/mob to the Abyss-someplace you do not want to go and it was shortly game over. You just have to kind of shrug when you die to a mob you've never faced before and accept it as a learning experience.

[Thomkal]

Speaking of spears, Septopus XXI found a spear of venom. Stupidly he picked it up and carried it around. THen he put it down just in time.

what's wrong with using a spear of venom? especially because (I think) you can attack from one extra square away with it and other polearm weapons. Use the v key (i think) to evoke it to attack from that extra square. It can save your mana if you poison something with your spear first.

[Thomkal]

yeah I have no patience. I wanna rocket through levels 1-3 now and that is doom. and yeah I was raising my strength just to help me survive but I'm gonna try INT now. I bet that's a big problem with my spells.

STR is not a bad thing because yours starts out so low, and I do raise mine along the way, but for spellcasters INT should be your first priority.

[Thomkal]

oooooooooooooh my god gave me a deck of cards hahaha :)

I would have cautioned you not to choose that god had I known. :) His thing is decks of cards-its a very different way to play the game and not for the beginner. :) And some of the cards can be nasty. I can't remember the key to use the deck-maybe v? go into inventory and read the description of the deck, it may tell you the command to use.

Maybe a Nemelex worshipper should be our next comp. ;)

[Thomkal]

Okay going to breakfast now, someone else can answer your questions till I get back :)

[CrimsonFox]

dammit this is twice now. I get nasueas for no reason AND hungry at the same time. So it won't let me eat :( *kicks the game across the field*

[Thomkal]

dammit this is twice now. I get nasueas for no reason AND hungry at the same time. So it won't let me eat :( *kicks the game across the field*

did you drink an UN'Id'ed potion, or eat something that caused you to get sick and nauseated? (ok really going now)

[CrimsonFox]

I drew 5 cards and didn't die hehehehehe but hounds killed me. too much shit at once that just kept coming.

[CrimsonFox]

And no I didn't. I ate orc I guess but it was fine for awhiel and then suddenly nauseus. dammit i so hate games with food.

[Thomkal]

And no I didn't. I ate orc I guess but it was fine for awhiel and then suddenly nauseus. dammit i so hate games with food.

yeah orcs will make you sick-most "intelligent" races will make you sick with this character.

[CrimsonFox]

orcs are intelligent? goblins?

[Thomkal]

orcs are intelligent? goblins?

humanoid intelligence perhaps is a better description. :)

[Thomkal]

Well I've made it down to the 1st level of the Orcish Mines, but after dispatching the welcoming horde of orcs I have found a portal to the Bailey, a vault that I'm not sure I've ever been in before. Gotta take the opportunity to explore it though, so will later today I hope.

[Thomkal]

Took the opportunity and paid for it with Octowizzy2's life. :( Was doing quite well actually and then the bad boys started showing up-orc warlords and knights-I kept them confused with the cloud, but couldn't seem to do enough damage with the poison to put them away then got semi surrounded when I didn't move up to fill the empty space before a corridor and that was it. But it was worth it to see what was in the bailey for future characters.




Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.2 character file.

4088 OctoWizzy the Tainter (level 10, -14/61 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 17, 2012.
Was a Priest of Vehumet.
Demolished by an orc warrior
... wielding a -1,+0 orcish battleaxe
(25 damage)
... in the bailey on June 24, 2012.
The game lasted 03:21:25 (11984 turns).

OctoWizzy the Tainter (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 11984, Time: 03:21:25

HP -14/61 AC 6 Str 9 XL: 10 Next: 9%
MP 15/29 EV 13 Int 18 God: Vehumet [***...]
Gold 493 SH 0 Dex 14 Spells: 4 memorised, 7 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . a - +3 dwarf dagger (protect)
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . (no shield)
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . n - amulet of the gourmand
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . k - ring of magical power
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . s - ring of protection from magic
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (no ring)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Gourmand : + Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, herbivore 1, camouflage 1,
tentacles 3, AC +1
a: Renounce Religion


You were in the bailey.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was greatly pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 9 of its levels.
You visited 1 portal chamber: bailey.

You collected 473 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
a - a +3,+3 dwarven dagger of protection (weapon)
b - a +1 blowgun
c - a +2,+0 sling
J - a +0,+2 bow of flame
Missiles
e - 14 +4 darts
h - 100 +0 stones
D - 29 poisoned +0 needles
F - 6 exploding +0 darts (quivered)
K - 26 +0 arrows
Magical devices
d - a wand of polymorph other (5)
z - a wand of fire (8)
G - a wand of slowing (3)
I - a wand of cold (4)
Comestibles
g - a meat ration
m - 3 bread rations
H - 2 honeycombs
Scrolls
p - a scroll of blinking {unknown}
r - a scroll of identify
v - 2 scrolls of recharging
x - a scroll of noise {unknown}
Jewellery
k - a ring of magical power (on tentacle)
n - an amulet of the gourmand (around mantle)
s - a ring of protection from magic (on tentacle)
y - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
A - an uncursed amulet of rage
Potions
j - 4 potions of resistance
l - 4 potions of curing
o - a potion of brilliance
t - 2 potions of cure mutation
u - a potion of magic
Books
C - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
*Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5


Skills:
+ Level 4.1 Fighting
- Level 0.5 Short Blades
- Level 2.8 Slings
+ Level 1.3 Bows
+ Level 6.4 Throwing
- Level 3.6 Dodging
+ Level 4.1 Stealth
+ Level 1.5 Stabbing
+ Level 0.2 Unarmed Combat
* Level 4.6 Spellcasting
+ Level 4.1 Conjurations
+ Level 2.0 Air Magic
* Level 9.1 Poison Magic
- Level 0.3 Evocations


You had 7 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ##### 1% 1 None
b - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj ####..... 1% 3 Choko
c - Cure Poison Pois ######.... 1% 2 Sultana
d - Venom Bolt Pois/Conj #####..... 8% 5 Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (1/4) D:7

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul

Shops:
D:7: *%


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.
You digest meat inefficiently.


Message History

The orc warlord hits you with an uncursed runed dire flail!
The orc warrior closely misses you.
You hit the orc warlord. You constrict the orc warlord.
The orc warlord is almost dead.
The orc warrior completely misses you.
You hit the orc warlord but do no damage.
You constrict the orc warlord, but do no damage.
You squeeze the orc warlord.
The orc warlord is almost dead.
The orc warlord roars a battle-cry!
The orc goes into a battle-frenzy!
The orc warlord hits you with an uncursed runed dire flail!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel much better.
You constrict the orc warlord, but do no damage.
The orc warlord hits you with an uncursed runed dire flail!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The orc warrior hits you with an orcish battleaxe!
You die...

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You could see an orc warlord, an orc warrior (frenzied) and an orc (frenzied).

Vanquished Creatures
Pikel (D:6)
An orc knight (Bailey)
A spriggan (D:7)
A black bear (D:5)
4 ogres
4 slaves (D:6)
3 centaurs
10 orc warriors
Duvessa (D:4)
A giant frog (D:7)
2 crimson imps
Dowan (D:4)
2 hounds
5 orc priests
A scorpion (D:7)
2 iguanas (D:6)
2 worker ants
4 orc wizards
Jessica (D:6)
A worm zombie (D:6)
A jelly (D:7)
15 gnolls
6 adders
2 green rats (D:3)
An iguana skeleton (D:6)
3 giant mites
3 worms
A giant eyeball (D:6)
6 giant geckos
3 oozes
53 orcs
11 bats
8 giant cockroaches
27 goblins
30 hobgoblins
3 jackals (D:6)
A ball python (D:4)
7 giant newts
A hobgoblin zombie (D:7)
20 kobolds
An orc zombie (D:7)
3 quokkas
17 rats
A rat skeleton (D:6)
A plant (D:3)
14 toadstools
287 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
3 halflings (D:3)
A kobold (D:3)
A quokka (D:7)
A ball python (D:3)
A hobgoblin zombie (D:7)
An orc zombie (D:7)
2 plants (D:3)
22 toadstools
32 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 319 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | OctoWizzy, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
203 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
233 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/17 MP: 1/4
859 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
887 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/21 MP: 2/5
899 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
1460 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
2255 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/27 MP: 7/7
2728 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
2820 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
2820 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/31 MP: 8/8
2824 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
4249 | D:3 | Found a glowing drain.
4288 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 35/37 MP: 10/10
4291 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
4591 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
4860 | D:4 | Noticed Duvessa
4872 | D:4 | Noticed Dowan
4883 | D:4 | Killed Duvessa
4883 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Poison Magic
4915 | D:4 | Killed Dowan
4915 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 38/43 MP: 11/12
5440 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
5885 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
6695 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 14/14
6714 | D:5 | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt
7529 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
7552 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
7689 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
7946 | D:6 | Noticed Jessica
7949 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You digest meat inefficiently.
7952 | D:6 | Killed Jessica
7959 | D:6 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
8376 | D:6 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
8596 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel
8611 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
8612 | D:6 | Killed Pikel
8612 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
8612 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Poison Magic
8616 | D:6 | Acquired Vehumet's first power
8961 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/54 MP: 17/17
9481 | D:7 | Found Edayveto's Assorted Antiques.
9708 | D:7 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
9828 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
9920 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
10036 | D:7 | Found Wuhanamp's Food Emporium.
11083 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
11134 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
11319 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's second power
11544 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal.
11567 | bailey | Entered the bailey
11883 | bailey | Acquired Vehumet's third power
11950 | bailey | Reached skill level 9 in Poison Magic
11950 | bailey | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/61 MP: 14/20
11984 | bailey | Demolished by an orc warrior

[Thomkal]

So I start Octowizzy3 and after picking up a short sword of venom on level 1 of the dungeon, I find a spellbook, which would be the first I've found in this challenge. I take a few steps closer and boom there's an altar of Trog. He hates magic and loves to destroy spellbooks. Including this one. :(

[Thomkal]

Well the pain doesn't last long. I move quickly down to level 3 and soon find gnolls and Ijyb or however he spells it. I try dragging a gnoll up the stairs, and he hits me twice...with a cursed 0/-3 halberd and I'm dead. :(

[Grover]

Is it normal to find a room with four altars of the same god?

[CrimsonFox]

I killed Ijyb once! only named guy I've kilt yet.

[CrimsonFox]

*sigh* XXII did well until he opened a door and Jessica was there. She blinked through it, slowed me and killed me. The difficulty level of this game is horrible. That was one of the first rooms on level TWO.

[CrimsonFox]

LOL! XXIII drank two potions. They were potions of mutation. His INT went up by 2 points and he had a craving for flesh. THe next potion he found he drank. It was a potion of cure mutation. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Grover]

In a cruel twist of fate, Octodysseus II was killed by his predecessor.

[CrimsonFox]

heh. I just joined the necromancer religion. Then a kobold shoots exploding darts at me from across the room. And I die. Then I immediately am raised as a zombie. Oh well, I asked for it.

[Grover]

4078

Starting room.

Seriously?

Octodysseus III lasts 11 turns.

[Thomkal]

I killed Ijyb once! only named guy I've kilt yet.

yeah he and Jessica (if you play it smart) are the likely two easiest named guys for me to kill.

[Thomkal]

Is it normal to find a room with four altars of the same god?

No not normal-were they Xom altars by any chance?

[Thomkal]

LOL! XXIII drank two potions. They were potions of mutation. His INT went up by 2 points and he had a craving for flesh. THe next potion he found he drank. It was a potion of cure mutation. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Yet another reason to ID potions. ;)

[Thomkal]

In a cruel twist of fate, Octodysseus II was killed by his predecessor.

ah too bad. I almost think the difficulty of player ghosts need to be tweaked a bit-they seem tougher than named mobs most of the time.

[Grover]

No not normal-were they Xom altars by any chance?

Indeed they were.

Octodysseus IV makes it to the fifth floor before getting sniped by a centaur archer. Had a nice +3+2 Trident of Distortion, and a Ring of Wizardry.

He's my highest score so far at... 586 (embarrassing)

[Thomkal]

4078

Starting room.

Seriously?

Octodysseus III lasts 11 turns.

wow that's some crazy vault. Jellies on the first level is just ridiculously wrong. you had no chance of running away?

[Thomkal]

Indeed they were.

Octodysseus IV makes it to the fifth floor before getting sniped by a centaur archer. Had a nice +3+2 Trident of Distortion, and a Ring of Wizardry.

He's my highest score so far at... 586 (embarrassing)

Yeah its Xom, the crazy insane god, so of course his altar is going to be crazy and insane too. :) There were some weird looking walls or whatever around the altars? Make sure you check for traps next to them cause he likes to laugh at things like that.

Centaurs are nasty-but a Mephitic Cloud spell should have confused him long enough to get close for hand...er tentacle to hand combat or to run away/get into a better position to distance attack.

good luck with the next version.

[CrimsonFox]

okay wow. I decided to try tiles. I've been playing the text version the whole time. running Tiles it gives me 12 MAGIC!!!! the text version only gives me 3! :)

[CrimsonFox]

Well that really made all the difference. The monsters in the tiles game are much easier and having 13 instead of 3 magic makes a HUGE difference! :)

[CrimsonFox]

Made it to character level 5. Ran into a ghost of me so ran and ran downstairs. Being REALLY cuatious. I see jackals . I have cloud spell now so I cast it. It explodes aruond me. TWICE. So cast Cure poison. It fails FIVE times and makes me sick when it hadn't failed once before.
Jackal bites me once and I die.

total crap.

[Thomkal]

Made it to character level 5. Ran into a ghost of me so ran and ran downstairs. Being REALLY cuatious. I see jackals . I have cloud spell now so I cast it. It explodes aruond me. TWICE. So cast Cure poison. It fails FIVE times and makes me sick when it hadn't failed once before.
Jackal bites me once and I die.

total crap.

Ooof that just horrible luck-what happened with the spell exploding around you? Did you accidently cast it on yourself or did it hit a wall in front of you that you didn't see? Usually you get a warning if the spell is going to bounce off something in front of you and hit you.

[CrimsonFox]

Ooof that just horrible luck-what happened with the spell exploding around you? Did you accidently cast it on yourself or did it hit a wall in front of you that you didn't see? Usually you get a warning if the spell is going to bounce off something in front of you and hit you.

I hit f...where it targetted the jackal across the room. The second time I doublechecked because I forgot about that. But no I was SURE I did it right. And the cure spell failling 5 times. That is NOT bad luck. SOmething caused that. Something shitty. I wonder if something I had did it. Do shields and things cause spells to fail?

Because spell failure was what happened. The really bad kind. Cause the cure poison spells they actually made me sick each time.

[Thomkal]

Post the morgue file if you would please CF, maybe I can figure out what happened from that.

[CrimsonFox]

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.3 character file.

372 Septopus XXVIII the Stinger (level 5, 0/31 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 24, 2012.
Slain by a jackal (2 damage)
... on Level 4 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 00:34:18 (5286 turns).

Septopus XXVIII the Stinger (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 5286, Time: 00:34:18

HP 0/31 AC 1 Str 8 XL: 5 Next: 70%
MP 7/18 EV 8 Int 18 God:
Gold 179 SH 18 Dex 12 Spells: 3 memorised, 1 level left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . j - +2,+1 club
Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . . d - +0 large shield (curse)
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (no amulet)
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . e - ring of magical power
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . z - ring of protection from fire {unknown}
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . A - ring of ice
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: mildly poisoned, slightly contaminated, glowing, slightly resistant to
hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, camouflage 1, tentacles 3, AC +1
a: no special abilities


You were on level 4 of the Dungeon.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 4 of its levels.

You collected 159 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
g - a -1,+0 orcish hammer
h - a +2,+1 dwarven dagger (quivered)
j - a +2,+1 club (weapon)
p - a +0,+0 mace
s - a +0,+0 short sword
u - a +0,+0 dagger
w - a +0,+0 club
x - a +1,+0 hammer of holy wrath
C - a +0,+0 club
Missiles
i - 32 poisoned +0 needles
v - a +0 dart
Armour
a - a +0 leather armour
d - a cursed +0 large shield (worn)
m - a +0 pair of gloves
r - a +0 orcish leather armour
t - a +0 leather armour
y - a +0 ring mail
Comestibles
c - 3 bread rations
l - a choko
o - a rotting chunk of bat flesh
q - a pear
Scrolls
f - a scroll of detect curse
k - a scroll of fear
D - a scroll of identify
Jewellery
e - a ring of magical power (on tentacle)
z - a ring of protection from fire (on tentacle) {unknown}
A - a ring of ice (on tentacle)
Potions
n - 2 potions of degeneration
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5


Skills:
+ Level 0.2 Fighting
+ Level 0.2 Maces & Flails
+ Level 1.2 Throwing
+ Level 4.0 Dodging
+ Level 4.1 Stealth
+ Level 0.7 Stabbing
+ Level 0.8 Traps & Doors
+ Level 1.9 Spellcasting
+ Level 1.4 Conjurations
+ Level 0.3 Air Magic
+ Level 5.9 Poison Magic


You had one spell level left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ####. 98% 1 Strawberry
b - Cure Poison Pois ####...... 89% 2 Choko
c - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj ###...... 100% 3 Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (4/27)
Temple: D:4-7

Altars:

Annotations
D:2 Crazy Yiuf
D:3 Septopus XVII's ghost, weakling OpVM


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.


Message History

* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel sick. The jackal bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Casting: Cure Poison
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
You miscast Cure Poison. You feel odd. You block the jackal's attack.
The jackal bites you but does no damage.
Casting: Cure Poison
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
You miscast Cure Poison.
You are contaminated with residual magics.
Your vision is briefly tinged with green.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel sick. You block the jackal's attack.
You closely miss the jackal.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel sick.
The jackal bites you but does no damage.
The jackal bites you.
You die...

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#....#
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You could see a jackal.

Vanquished Creatures
A killer bee zombie (D:3)
A worker ant zombie (D:3)
Ijyb (D:2)
4 adders
A scorpion zombie (D:3)
A giant mite (D:1)
A bat zombie (D:3)
3 orcs (D:3)
5 giant cockroaches
8 goblins
6 hobgoblins
A jackal (D:4)
4 kobolds
A ball python (D:1)
7 bats
3 giant geckos
2 giant newts
2 hobgoblin zombies (D:3)
A quokka skeleton (D:3)
A quokka zombie (D:3)
8 rats
A rat skeleton (D:3)
A rat zombie (D:3)
5 fungi (D:2)
69 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
An orc (D:3)
A rat (D:1)
A toadstool (D:1)
3 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 72 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Septopus XXVIII, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
397 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
1060 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/17 MP: 4/4
1075 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
1764 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 12/21 MP: 6/6
1895 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
2409 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb
2435 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb
2750 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/27 MP: 7/7
3125 | D:2 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
3711 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
4551 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 19/31 MP: 9/9
4838 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
5218 | D:3 | Noticed Septopus XVII's ghost (weakling OpVM)
5286 | D:4 | Slain by a jackal

[Thomkal]

Okay a lot of possibilities from looking at the morgue file and from what you said, but I don't know enough about some thing I'm going to talk about to know for sure.

1-You've got a cursed large shield on which may be effecting your spell failure rates-look at your failure rates on your three spells-all very high including mephitic cloud at 100% failure.

2-I think you correctly targetted with mephitic cloud but you failed to cast it-I'm assuming you were at the 100% failure rate when you cast it, but can't tell for sure from the morgue file. The first level of miscast failure (there are three for each school of spell) casts the cloud on you instead. However the morgue file does not show you as confused as you would be if hit by the cloud-that would mean you could not cast spells at all. You also take poison damage.

3-You are glowing. that means you are magically contaminated. That comes from miscasting too many spells as well as other means. It says in the morgue file that you are only slightly contaminated, so it shouldn't be having too much effect on you-do you remember what color the word glow was during this final battle-because there are levels of contamination and the higher levels are very bad-mutations and damage to you. I am too unfamiliar with contamination to know how much of an effect it might have had on you here. Maybe someone with more experience with this can chime in here? If you get contaminated from miscasting a spell, its always a good idea to rest until it goes away if you can.

Yet another reason I stay away from pure spellcasters-using up your food to cast spells and then things like contaminations and miscasts. :)

[dzilla77]

Actually the large shield would be affecting spell failure rates significantly (regardless of the fact that it is cursed).

[CrimsonFox]

Then why is this thread all about a very hard to play spellcaster? :) heh
Can you choose something else alongside the venommage so we can mix it up? :)

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah I think it was the shield is my only guess. Either that or I entered some area that was anti-magic if that's possible.

[CrimsonFox]

Okay looking good this game. I have found multiple cure poitions and that was the first thing I drank :) So doing well.

And...I am a follower of Nemelex again :) He gave me a deck of Destruction cards. Every time I cast I destroy something . :)

So saving it for a named dude.

btw, I ewnt downstairs and found a named person that cast magic again. I ran like hell upstairs and they followed me. What saved my like? My scroll of blinking! I was then able to cure up and then run BACK downstairs down a different stiar. Whew!

Level 5 now.

[CrimsonFox]

Rule #648: Never lay on the rest key and look away from the screen.

[Thomkal]

Then why is this thread all about a very hard to play spellcaster? :) heh
Can you choose something else alongside the venommage so we can mix it up? :)

well it was to celebrate the arrival of the new race the Octopode-who can only be wizardy types. :)

and no I can't do that because then no one would play the venommage anymore. :)

[Thomkal]

Rule #648: Never lay on the rest key and look away from the screen.

Heh-yep and never hold down the movement key and look away either (and/or fall asleep)

[thesloppy]

Rule #648: Never lay on the rest key and look away from the screen.

Shift-5 will auto rest until you're fully healed (or until a monster comes into view)

[CrimsonFox]

The game just got interesting...Septopus LVIII ate a snozzcumber...and it tasted putrid.

Oh and he found a Ring of Wizardry. I need to be careful with this guy!

BTW you guys are AWESOME with your tips. Keep em coming. Obviously I'm doing it wrong. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Finally had a game!


Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.3 character file.

1825 Septopus LXIII the Stinger (level 8, -13/44 (46) HPs)
Began as an Octopode Venom Mage on June 26, 2012.
Killed by divine providence
... invoked by an orc priest
(17 damage)
... on Level 8 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 01:37:43 (11921 turns).

Septopus LXIII the Stinger (Octopode Venom Mage) Turns: 11921, Time: 01:37:43

HP -13/44 (46) AC 2 Str 7 XL: 8 Next: 99%
MP 2/17 EV 14 Int 20 God:
Gold 164 SH 0 Dex 12 Spells: 4 memorised, 4 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . a - +0,+3 short sword (drain)
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . (no shield)
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Acid. : + . . Res.Corr. : + A - amulet of resist corrosion
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . j - ring of wizardry
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . k - ring of wizardry
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . u - +1 ring of protection
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no ring)
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . (no ring)
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring)
(no ring)
(no ring)

@: very slightly contaminated, slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, very
stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, constrict 8, camouflage 1, tentacles 3, AC +1
a: no special abilities


You were on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 8 of its levels.

You collected 186 gold pieces.
You spent 42 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
a - a +0,+3 short sword of draining (weapon)
d - a +2,+1 long sword of electrocution
e - a +0,+1 bow
h - a +0,+0 whip
i - a +2,+1 dagger
m - a +0,+0 dagger
n - a +0,+0 orcish dagger
o - a +1,+0 short sword
p - a +5,+7 sabre of speed
q - a -1,+0 orcish dagger
r - a +0,+0 dagger
s - the +10,+0 crossbow "Sniper" {unknown, venom, SInv}
(You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)

It poisons the ammo it fires.

It enhances your eyesight.
t - a +0,+0 hand axe of chopping
v - a +0,+0 scimitar
w - a +0,+2 orcish morningstar
y - a +1,+0 dwarven war axe
z - a +2,+1 dagger
F - a +1,+2 dagger
L - a -1,+1 orcish trident
Missiles
f - 40 +0 darts (quivered)
g - 12 +0 arrows
Armour
x - a +1 robe
Comestibles
c - 3 bread rations
B - a choko
H - a meat ration
Scrolls
D - a scroll of remove curse
J - 2 scrolls of detect curse
Jewellery
j - a ring of wizardry (on tentacle)
k - a ring of wizardry (on tentacle)
u - a +1 ring of protection (on tentacle)
A - an amulet of resist corrosion (around mantle)
Potions
l - a potion of mutation {unknown}
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook

Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
*Cure Poison Poison 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
*Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Magical staves
G - a staff of channeling {unknown}


Skills:
+ Level 0.9 Fighting
+ Level 1.4 Short Blades
+ Level 0.2 Axes
+ Level 0.9 Maces & Flails
+ Level 3.6 Throwing
+ Level 5.1 Dodging
+ Level 5.7 Stealth
+ Level 2.4 Stabbing
+ Level 1.3 Traps & Doors
+ Level 3.7 Spellcasting
+ Level 3.1 Conjurations
+ Level 1.2 Air Magic
+ Level 7.4 Poison Magic


You had 4 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ####. 1% 1 None
b - Cure Poison Pois #####..... 1% 2 Strawberry
c - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj ####..... 2% 3 Choko
d - Olgreb's Toxic Radia Pois #####.... 2% 4 Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27) Temple (0/1) D:7
Orc: D:6-11 Lair: D:8-13

Altars:

Shops:
D:6: =*!

Annotations
D:5 Septopus LVII's ghost, average OpVM
D:7 Prince Ribbit


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You are amphibious.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
You have a mass of large tentacles instead of arms.


Message History

Aiming: Sting
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc priest, p - orc priest
Aim: an orc priest, wielding an orcish mace and wearing an orcish chain mail
The sting hits the orc priest. The orc priest is poisoned.
The orc priest is lightly wounded.
The orc priest calls down the wrath of Beogh upon you.
Something smites you! The orc priest looks more healthy.
The orc priest looks stronger.
The orc priest curses loudly.
The orc priest invokes the aid of Beogh against you.
Something smites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
The orc priest invokes the aid of Beogh against you.
Pain shoots through your body!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The orc priest invokes the aid of Beogh against you.
Something smites you!
You die...

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You could see 2 orc priests and a giant cockroach.

Vanquished Creatures
A hill giant (D:7)
Eustachio (D:4)
A necrophage (D:8)
2 sky beasts
A phantom (D:8)
An ogre (D:4)
A centaur (D:6)
A giant frog (D:6)
A water moccasin (D:7)
3 hounds (D:4)
3 orc priests
2 worker ants (D:4)
A scorpion (D:4)
An iguana (D:4)
Terence (D:2)
An orc wizard (D:6)
8 adders
An adder zombie (D:8)
2 giant mites (D:4)
A worm (D:4)
3 oozes
4 orcs
2 ball pythons
14 bats
6 giant cockroaches
14 hobgoblins
2 quokkas
A giant gecko (D:8)
8 giant newts
20 goblins
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:4)
10 kobolds
A kobold skeleton (D:5)
11 rats
A butterfly (D:7)
4 toadstools
136 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
2 orcs (D:8)
A jackal (D:5)
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:4)
3 toadstools
7 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 143 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Septopus LXIII, the Octopode Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
253 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
253 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 9/17 MP: 0/4
258 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
1116 | D:2 | Noticed Terence
1682 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/21 MP: 5/5
3323 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
3359 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
3418 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 18/27 MP: 5/7
4463 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
4553 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
4553 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 11/31 MP: 9/9
4716 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
4849 | D:4 | Noticed Eustachio
5750 | D:2 | Killed Terence
6948 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 34/36 MP: 7/11
7084 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
7142 | D:4 | Killed Eustachio
7142 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 30/41 MP: 2/13
7795 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
7806 | D:5 | Noticed Septopus LVII's ghost (average OpVM)
8283 | D:6 | Found Chuutt's Jewellery Shop.
8289 | D:6 | Bought a +1 ring of protection for 42 gold pieces
8673 | D:6 | Found Jiqiuc Tiaxo's General Store.
8702 | D:6 | Found Nolol's Distillery.
8977 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance
9428 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
10278 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
10278 | D:7 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 30/46 MP: 10/15
10473 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit
10475 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
10582 | D:7 | Noticed a hill giant
10616 | D:7 | Killed a hill giant
10616 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
10616 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Poison Magic
11597 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
11820 | D:8 | Got a black crossbow
11921 | D:8 | Killed from afar by an orc priest



Highlights. Tewrence chased me around and I ran and ran and ran and just gave up and went downstairs. I employed that tactics twice. So glad there are easy monsters on ALL the levels.

Got chased back UP by Eustice or whatever blinking aroundl

Got lotsa hitpoints and spells then went back up and SCREW YOU TERRENCE! SUCK CLOUD!

Orc Wizard/Orc Priest Orc Wrrior group. Clouded to the max. They stumbled over each other droping their weapons and I stung them while confused then threw things at them.

Skybeast was interesting. Glad I took it from afar.

Centaur...this was scary. I poisonauraed him in a corridor which poisoned me. Then when he madvanced and hit me I read a scroll of fear to drive him away! then hit him again with spells

Hill Giant. ...Luckily I was far away from him when I noticed him and it was open (unlike the centaur). I clouded him many times and Stung him. He approached once I hit him BAM but he toko me to half. SCROLL OF FEAR again. Then Clouded again. threw things but once he got to red I just went up and hit him.

My short sword of draining was awesome oh yes I got that off of DEAD MOFO TERRENCE!

I went downstairs and almost immediately found a Jelly. EEK! I really thought I was dead as I was out of fear scrolls. It didn't seem to take much damage from poison spells and it did acid damgae. I ran. ranrnaran up a corridor. At the other end was a water moccasin who sandwiched me in. I stopped and thought. I was already under half. I then read a teleportation scroll. Drank my last cure potion while both were swinging and missing. Then I radiated posion too
I then teleported finally into an empty big room with scrolls.

Well...it wasn't empty. A phantom appeared. I hit him and he double hit back so I ran like hell for stairs.

Next I met a Necrophage. hahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHA...I was wearing an amulet of protection from corrosion! so it didn't harm me.
It would have been nasty otherwise.

Then I met ANOTHER Phantom. I CLOUDED him galore and kept running. He blinked a lot and advanced and when he did I hit him and drained him and poison auraed which would cause him to blink away. So I stung him and threw things. eventually he went down.

My last story is entitled "3 Orc Priests, 2 Orc Warrior, and a cockroach...in a narrow corridor".

Was hilarious. I was up top shooting clouds into an intersection and they kept blocking each other and falling over. Reappted sting and cloud spells. Then the best part I threw a net on top of the one in the center of the corridor. They couldn't do ANYTHING while confused. They all sat in the corridor and died....except for 2 priests. I ran out of spells.

And of course the game cheated at that point.
Instead of casting a balanced spell at me they called forth God power and took me to 5 HP in one call. Gee...okay when the game is losing it cheats....got it.
It's so nice that _I_ can do something like that when _I_ need...wait no I can't.

BTW I found shops FINALLY! but hadn't enough money.
Is there any way to sell things? I saw nothing saying I could :(

Anyway Septopus LXIII turns in my first real performance with 1825 points at 8th level

[CrimsonFox]

Is there anyway to destroy statues in the way?

[CrimsonFox]

I will note that there was one misfit in the ancestry. Septopus the LIV broke ranks as he found it troubling that all the previous Venom Mages died a horrible death. So he went Summoner. It was a challenging run in itself. The first level I think was a little easier as the monsters would mostly kill everything and then only required one stab if that while the summoned creatures then go poof. Endless supply of them. Got the Imp too. 2nd level kinda changed that. Level 2 just seems to always have one big bunch of monsters in it that mages just get Malachi crunched in.

[Thomkal]

Congrats on making it to the Temple level CF! That's the first sign that you are really starting to understand the game, so well done. I can't believe you didn't go in and find a Nemelex altar. :)

You can destroy granite statues with a couple spells you aren't likely to have as a venom mage and a wand of disintegration will work as well. Be careful of non-granite statues though as they might animate and attack you.

That was a sweet crossbow artifact find for a venom mage. Too bad you didn't have bolts for it. And if you want to call forth god power yourself, play a Half-Orc Priest of Beogh-then you can Smite to your heart's content...and gain orc followers that would otherwise attack you and they can level themselves. Playing one now, pretty fun.

Jellies aren't affected by fear and other mind-related attacks, because they don't have one! Skybeasts are not fun-don't stand in water while attacking them, and don't eat any meat they leave behind unless you really want a mutation.

[Thomkal]

Oh and glad to help CF-I'm learning new things/remembering old things I had forgotten in researching some of the answers for you, so you are helping me too. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Only took me 63 tries ;)

Oh yeah and I can't believe I forgot about the temple. I came upon it, but then went around the outskirts of it and fled. There was something I forget what that scared me away and wanted to circumvent it. THen there was a lot of going down and upstairs business and I really completely forgot about it. Didn't even see it again accidentally to remind myself :(

Granted the Nemelex guy is the only one I've ever gotten anything from. I've tried the fire evil god, the snail slow god, and a couple others. I guessed that the good gods won't like us.

[CrimsonFox]

Oh and glad to help CF-I'm learning new things/remembering old things I had forgotten in researching some of the answers for you, so you are helping me too. :)


well keep telling me things you think I might need.

Granted I still play level one basically never letting up on the keys.
I run down corridors and go "oh look I just killed something I think."
I'm so bored with it. If I die fine I just start again. This game is like gambling unfortunately. I can't stop.

[CrimsonFox]

I found that crossbow shortly before that last battle. I can't believe that battle went that way. I was SOOO dominating their asses. :( I wish the game was balanced and not give monsters that kind of instant death kinda stuff. I just hate all the wasted time.

[CrimsonFox]

oh yeah what about shops? I found nothing in help files as a heading.
all you can do is buy from them?

[Thomkal]

Only took me 63 tries ;)

Oh yeah and I can't believe I forgot about the temple. I came upon it, but then went around the outskirts of it and fled. There was something I forget what that scared me away and wanted to circumvent it. THen there was a lot of going down and upstairs business and I really completely forgot about it. Didn't even see it again accidentally to remind myself :(

Granted the Nemelex guy is the only one I've ever gotten anything from. I've tried the fire evil god, the snail slow god, and a couple others. I guessed that the good gods won't like us.

Most gods don't care what you are if you want to worship them-its what you do after that they do care about. Have you actually tried one of the two magic gods yet? :) Vehemet and Sif Muna.

[CrimsonFox]

I think the first or second game I played I found Sif Muna and was that. Since then I have NOT found those 2 altars at ALL ANYWHERE!!!!!! :)

Always the other crazy ones. I find the fire one and the snail one a LOT. HAd a stint of finding Nemenex a lot in the 40s and 50s.

I just join whoever I find basically.

[thesloppy]

oh yeah what about shops? I found nothing in help files as a heading.
all you can do is buy from them?

Yup. No selling, just drop anything you don't need/want.

[CrimsonFox]

Pfffff. Orcs on level 1. Come on!!!!! 2 wizzes a priest and 2 warriors :(

[Thomkal]

Just a heads up guys. This comp technically ends tonight at midnight, but given its a weekend, I'm going to extend it through tomorrow at midnight. So either post your best result here or point out to me the post you've already made here that has your best result.

Good luck!

[Grover]

How does one burn/destroy a spellbook?

[Thomkal]

How does one burn/destroy a spellbook?

Is this for a Trog worshipper? if so, its a for abilities, then whatever letter that ability is (hit ? or *) to see which. Just don't stand on it when you do it. :) Otherwise, I can't remember-why do you want to destroy it?

[Grover]

Is this for a Trog worshipper? if so, its a for abilities, then whatever letter that ability is (hit ? or *) to see which. Just don't stand on it when you do it. :) Otherwise, I can't remember-why do you want to destroy it?

Was asking for a different game!

[Thomkal]

And the winner is...ME! :) This looked to be a tough one for all of us-even with my winning entry I don't think I got as far down as we did in the other comps. Was this too tough for us, not very likeable/interesting, etc.?

I have some ideas for another comp, but I'd like to see more active participation if we are going to run another. Who's up for another comp and what would you like to see baring in mind our other comps (Troll Berserker, Deep Elf Ice Elementalist, Demonspawn Chaos Knight, Spriggan Stalker, Octopode Venom Mage)?

Congrats to Me! :)

[Thomkal]

So I got a PM from CrimsonFox asking for general help with Crawl, and I thought I'd post it here (sorry if you didn't want it posted!) since he asked a lot of questions. Get advice here from those who have played it more, and for future advice for those like CF who are new to it or will give the game a try in the future.
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at this game and badly need help. Some kind of instruction and tips. I can't make any headway.

Maybe if I told you different points and you tell me how to handle these situations...

What should I be doing and how to progress through the various character levels...?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9...

What specific tactics should I be aware of on each dungeon level (as I've seen that even though things are random they are usually the same variations...)

How do I deal with...
-Named characters: Jessica, Igyl, VIncent (that fighter guy that confuses I think that's his name?), Grinder, other casters, The guy that leads the slaves,...
-The orc groups (of priest/wizard/warriors)
- poison monsters
-range throwing monsters
-monsters that blink around
-monsters that deal a ton of damage (worms, ogres, etc)

Tactics with rings, potions, scrolls, wands...how do I use a wand :(

Eating...what can and can't I eat? Should I not use spells unless I have to because of it?
I'm thinking basically ancorpse in orange or green I cannot eat because they will make me sick/poison me. White corpses are fine?

Weapon use
what weapons to use and when?
special hidden tactics I don't know about...
I have been wielding a club or short sword as soon as I can then switching to mace or flail or long sword if I find one of those. For range I throw everything I can at some things but don't use slings/bows much. actually i've never seen a bow.

Well that's a start. I'm just useless at this thing. I know that the game is random and some games are easier than others to get through but I'm just dying all the time. Haven't come close to that one good game I had. Well twice I was close to doing that and both times I got severely screwd by something.

So HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP! :)
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I gave CF a couple basic things until I had time to post this here and comment on it.

1-Play the tutorial mode and hints mode-it really does ease you into the game as much as you can be eased with "easier" character choices and the helpful information you get as you go along.

2-Read up on the game as much as you can-go to the Crawl Wiki at: CrawlWiki (http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=CrawlWiki) There's a lot of helpful info there including a walkthrough and a strategy guide. Also check the Crawl official forums at the Tavern: Index page &bull; The Tavern (https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/) The first three sections of the Tavern part of the board can be very useful to read as newbies and vets alike post there looking for help and a large group of people willing to help.

[Grover]

Berserker has been my best character to date. I scored a 10,000+ with a Minotaur last night, got down to floor 10 before getting killed by a statue in the ice cavern

[CrimsonFox]

thanks thomkal. Yeah I was going to post it here but you saved me the hassle of doing it. I do very well but I always find something that absolutely screws me on levels 2-3 usually. Usually it's hordes of stuff and casters. Oh and food. The last great attempt I made I was doing terrific but died...BECAUSE I STARVED to death of all things. I found ZERO permanent food and the only monsters that seemed to drop carcasses were poisonous.

Altho I did follow your initial advice and played on hints mode and read the tips guide. One thing I picked up was running around corners to avoid range attacking mobs. ALthough this had the problem of getting killed by a falcion user with reach :P

Hints mode really didn't have anything strategy wise useful to say tho. At least not before I died.

I tried playing an Orc Fighter just to give myself a break. I got down to the temple level on the first try. Go figure. So I guess it's just extra hard playing the combo we were using.

[Thomkal]

A couple of thoughts from CF's post above:

1-patience and more patience. Part of the appeal of the game is that you really have to think how you are going to handle certain situations/mobs. Early on you will die...a lot. But as you begin to figure out stuff you'll quickly move through the first few dungeon levels with most characters unless you are unlucky with what you encounter. And your reward for that?...even more mobs and new areas to explore (and die horribly in)-the various portals. And you will learn from your deaths too so next time you face that named mobs you have the upperhand.

2. Running away is always a very good option and the best option in some cases. I recently had a level with two named mobs-one of which summoned all sorts of devils and undead in a pretty open dungeon level, a player ghost, and something else nasty I'm forgetting right now. I explored as much of the level as I could safely...and then went down the stairs. Some levels just aren't worth exploring fully.

3. Wands are evoked using the Capital "v" key.

4. My strategy for dealing with each dungeon level is this. Sit on the stairs after I've completed each level and look through my inventory. There's a ton of stuff in this game and you'll end up carrying a bunch of it. And you likely will forget that you are carrying certain things. If I'm playing a spell-using type, I look through my spells if I have a lot just to keep them fresh in my mind.

5. Looks like you are about to die? Check your inventory one last time. Haven't identified healing potions yet, and have some Un'ID'ed ones? Start drinking-maybe you will get a healing one or something like might which could carry the day for you...or maybe you will get paralyzed and die, but its not fun to look through your morgue file after dying and find out that you could have used something to save yourself. Check your scrolls too especially if you don't have teleport or blink yet. In the info I gave above about the devil/undead summoner, a lucky read of an un'ID'ed teleport scroll kept me alive until I could get off the level.

Well that's enough for now-please Crawl vets chime in here and help CF (and other newbies) with these issues.

[CrimsonFox]

And the winner is...ME! :) This looked to be a tough one for all of us-even with my winning entry I don't think I got as far down as we did in the other comps. Was this too tough for us, not very likeable/interesting, etc.?

I have some ideas for another comp, but I'd like to see more active participation if we are going to run another. Who's up for another comp and what would you like to see baring in mind our other comps (Troll Berserker, Deep Elf Ice Elementalist, Demonspawn Chaos Knight, Spriggan Stalker, Octopode Venom Mage)?

Congrats to Me! :)

Congrats! (FIXED! :D ) Seriously PLEASE let's not use a caster next time. At least not a straight Wizardclass. Something with armor please.

[CrimsonFox]

Too bad there isn't a cook class which let's you cook and depoison sentient food.

[Thomkal]

Too bad there isn't a cook class which let's you cook and depoison sentient food.

well you can always play a race that can eat such foods (like trolls, ogres, and ghouls) and a non-spellcasting race so food is not such much an immediate issue.

[Thomkal]

Congrats! (FIXED! :D ) Seriously PLEASE let's not use a caster next time. At least not a straight Wizardclass. Something with armor please.

yeah I wouldn't pick a straight magic using class for the next one so no worries there.

[thesloppy]

Congrats Thom!

I would love to see what everybody can do with my favored class, the merfolk assassin. I suck at it just as bad as every other class, but am attracted by the idea of stealth and stabbing, even if I never seem to use either effectively.

[CrimsonFox]

I thi k that's why octovenom mage was so challenging. Absolutely NO armor. If they catch you you're dead. And your constant magic reliance made food a problem...plus your spells weren't instant gratification. You had to wait for things to die.

[CrimsonFox]

Thanks again for having this comp Thom! I think the last couple times I saw threads like this I didn't understand them and/or never got the software to really work right for me. This download was great and the game has lots of neat features I haven't seen in the other ones. I think I just need to log some time now with one of the easier combos to get to know the game better instead of jumping into the shark-infested deep end like I did :D

[Thomkal]

Thanks again for having this comp Thom! I think the last couple times I saw threads like this I didn't understand them and/or never got the software to really work right for me. This download was great and the game has lots of neat features I haven't seen in the other ones. I think I just need to log some time now with one of the easier combos to get to know the game better instead of jumping into the shark-infested deep end like I did :D

You're welcome CF. Glad you stuck with it despite being thrown off the deep end-good thing we were playing an octopode. ;)

So I've seen a request for merfolk assassin, I have a couple ideas, anyone else have something specific they want to play?

[Grover]

You're welcome CF. Glad you stuck with it despite being thrown off the deep end-good thing we were playing an octopode. ;)

So I've seen a request for merfolk assassin, I have a couple ideas, anyone else have something specific they want to play?

Berserker, don't care what race!

[CrimsonFox]

Actually playing a monster would be extremely fun.

Mummy/Vampire/Ogre/TRoll kinda thing but again without the allspellcasting problem. I like the stomach of iron idea.

[thesloppy]

Note that the stomach of iron usually comes at some other cost. Trolls gotta eat a lot more, and vampires have to suck blood. The food mechanic can't really be avoided so much as it can be modified.

[dzilla77]

Interesting - I rarely ever have any issues with starvation. Maybe its just good luck that I always find permafood.

I seem to have problems with ghosts - most of my good characters are killed by my good character ghosts - usually because they are confusing me (and immune to my confusion spells).

One note, confusion is a very powerful condition in the game at low levels because there is not any resistance to it. I use it whenever I am confronted with spell casters or mobs.

Now, if I could just figure out how to kill ghosts. . .

[CrimsonFox]

Incidently I can now harness Makhleb's destructive might!

(What does that mean and how do I use this "might"? :) )

[CrimsonFox]

um, what's a scroll of immolation do aside from explode?

[CrimsonFox]

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.3 character file.

3452 George IV the Slasher (level 10, -2/83 HPs)
Began as a Hill Orc Fighter on July 2, 2012.
Was a Believer of Trog.
Slain by a killer bee (6 damage)
... on Level 9 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 00:53:32 (9949 turns).

George IV the Slasher (Hill Orc Fighter) Turns: 9949, Time: 00:53:32

HP -2/83 AC 11 Str 23 XL: 10 Next: 12%
MP 9/9 EV 9 Int 8 God: Trog [**....]
Gold 384 SH 22 Dex 9 (10) Spells: 0 memorised, 9 levels left

Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . C - +12,+10 sword of Jihad {holy, *Rage rN+ MR
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . d - +0 orc chain mail
Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . c - +0 orc shield
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: + Clarity : . (no cloak)
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . (no gloves)
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : + (no boots)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: + B - amulet of stasis
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . m - ring of protection from fire
Saprovore : + . . Ctrl.Flight: . s - ring of poison resistance

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: hooves 1, horns 1, deterioration 1, saprovore 1, teleport control, AC +2
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Renounce Religion


You were on level 9 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was greatly pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 10 of its levels.

You collected 364 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
e - a -1,+1 orcish dagger (quivered)
f - a +0,+0 bow
i - a -1,+2 orcish mace
j - a -1,+0 orcish trident
p - a +2,+1 scythe of dragon slaying
u - a +0 blowgun
v - a +2,+2 dagger
w - a +2,+1 short sword of protection
y - a +2,+2 orcish short sword
C - the +12,+10 sword of Jihad (weapon) {holy, *Rage rN+ MR EV+3 Stlth--}
(You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)

It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
and demons.

It affects your evasion (+3).
It protects you from negative energy.
It increases your resistance to enchantments.
It makes you angry.
It makes you much less stealthy.

This sword was The Shining One's gift to a worshipper.
D - a +1,+0 dwarven hand axe
I - a -1,+0 orcish spear
J - a +2,+1 bow
T - a +0,+1 spear of dragon slaying
U - a cursed -3,-2 sabre
Missiles
x - 13 poisoned +0 needles
O - 19 poisoned +0 arrows
Q - 2 +0 throwing nets
X - 18 +2 arrows
Armour
c - a +0 orcish shield (worn)
d - a +0 orcish chain mail (worn)
Magical devices
r - a wand of digging (4)
F - a wand of polymorph other (10)
N - a wand of cold (11) {unknown}
Comestibles
k - a cheese
n - 3 bread rations
q - a choko
Scrolls
a - 2 scrolls of fog {unknown}
h - 3 scrolls of remove curse
l - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
z - a scroll of amnesia {unknown}
K - a scroll of random uselessness {unknown}
L - a scroll of enchant armour {unknown}
R - a scroll of detect curse
S - a scroll of blinking
V - 2 scrolls of teleportation
W - a scroll of fear
Jewellery
g - an uncursed ring of fire {unknown}
m - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
o - an uncursed ring of invisibility {unknown}
s - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
t - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
B - an amulet of stasis (around neck)
Potions
b - a potion of agility
E - a potion of speed
G - 2 potions of levitation
H - 2 potions of curing
P - a potion of heal wounds


Skills:
+ Level 6.9 Fighting
+ Level 7.4 Long Blades
+ Level 0.3 Bows
+ Level 1.1 Throwing
+ Level 7.3 Armour
+ Level 4.0 Dodging
+ Level 0.7 Stealth
+ Level 1.3 Stabbing
+ Level 6.8 Shields
+ Level 1.9 Traps & Doors
+ Level 0.2 Evocations


You had 9 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/27) Temple (1/1) D:6
Orc: D:6-11 Lair: D:8-13

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh

Shops:
D:6: (


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can tolerate rotten meat.
You have large cloven feet.
You have a pair of small horns on your head.
You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1).
You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +1).
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You can control translocations.


Message History

You block the killer bee's attack.
A killer bee comes into view.
You slash the killer bee!
You headbutt the killer bee, but do no damage.
The killer bee is heavily wounded.
The killer bee stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You block the killer bee's attack.
The killer bee stings you but does no damage.
The killer bee moves out of view.
You hit the killer bee.
The killer bee is severely wounded.
You block the killer bee's attack. The killer bee stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The killer bee misses you. You block the killer bee's attack.
The killer bee rages.
The killer bee stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The killer bee stings you.
You die...

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You could see 7 killer bees.

Vanquished Creatures
The ghost of Septopus LXIII the Stinger, an experienced OpVM (D:8)
Eustachio (D:8)
Grum (D:9)
2 war dogs (D:9)
A neqoxec (D:5)
Menkaure (D:6)
An orc warrior (D:6)
2 ogres
An ice beast (D:8)
3 phantoms
2 centaurs
Sigmund (D:7)
The ghost of Septopus C1 the Stinger, an average OpVM of Vehumet (D:4)
A giant frog (D:6)
A gnoll sergeant (D:6)
6 killer bees (D:9)
5 crimson imps
3 hounds
A hound zombie (D:7)
2 worker ants
4 orc priests
A hound skeleton (D:4)
A scorpion (D:9)
A worker ant zombie (D:5)
2 iguanas
4 orc wizards
2 jellies
6 adders
5 gnolls (D:6)
An iguana zombie (D:5)
A midge (D:8)
A giant mite (D:6)
7 worms
An ufetubus (D:8)
6 giant geckos
A gnoll skeleton (D:4)
An ooze (D:4)
15 orcs
12 bats
8 giant cockroaches
17 goblins
15 hobgoblins
18 kobolds
A giant newt (D:8)
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:4)
A hobgoblin zombie (D:5)
19 jackals
2 orc skeletons (D:4)
An orc zombie (D:7)
2 quokkas (D:7)
11 rats
2 toadstools
207 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
An orc wizard (D:6)
A kobold (D:7)
19 toadstools
21 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 228 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | George IV, the Hill Orc Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
3 | D:1 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
26 | D:1 | Became a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh
333 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/26 MP: 1/1
987 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 30/33 MP: 2/2
1648 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
1716 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Shields
1736 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/39 MP: 3/3
1876 | D:2 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head.
1876 | D:2 | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
1876 | D:2 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1).
1944 | D:2 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
1975 | D:2 | Fell from the grace of Nemelex Xobeh
1975 | D:2 | Became a worshipper of Trog the Wrathful
2850 | D:4 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
2942 | D:4 | Noticed Septopus C1's ghost (average OpVM)
2996 | D:4 | Killed Septopus C1's ghost
2996 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/46 MP: 4/4
3226 | D:4 | Got a crystal sword
3227 | D:4 | Identified the sword of Jihad {holy, *Rage rN+ MR EV+3 Stlth--} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
3401 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/53 MP: 5/5
3775 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
4286 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's first power
4701 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 60/60 MP: 6/6
5231 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
5242 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
5242 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
5322 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
5322 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 61/68 MP: 7/7
5412 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
5531 | D:6 | Found Wopteing's Weapon Shoppe.
5883 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
5920 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
6259 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure
6278 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure
6623 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet.
6623 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +1).
6623 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You can control translocations.
6921 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund
6952 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund
6952 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades
7125 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 67/74 MP: 8/8
7227 | D:7 | Acquired Trog's second power
7915 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
8218 | D:8 | Noticed Eustachio
8234 | D:8 | Killed Eustachio
8313 | D:8 | Noticed Septopus LXIII's ghost (experienced OpVM)
8320 | D:8 | Killed Septopus LXIII's ghost
8369 | D:8 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
8515 | D:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
8524 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
9473 | D:9 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades
9682 | D:9 | Noticed Grum
9730 | D:9 | Killed Grum
9731 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 48/83 MP: 9/9
9805 | D:9 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 58/75 MP: 8/8
9827 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 64/83 MP: 9/9
9909 | D:9 | Noticed a queen bee
9949 | D:9 | HP: 4/83 [killer bee (7)]
9949 | D:9 | Slain by a killer bee

[Thomkal]

Berserker, don't care what race!

Thanks for the suggestion, but the first comp we did here was a berserker, so won't be doing that one again for a while. If we wanted to do an all-combat type, I was thinking hunter, but I could be swayed to do assassin if people are into it more.

I also have a couple "out there" ideas, but given how tough this one was, likely will save them for another day.

[CrimsonFox]

bumpbumpbumpitybumpbump

[Thomkal]

I haven't forgotten. :)