FOFC Movie ReMake Challenge: Draft Over! Get Production Notes In

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

In a world...

Where Hollywood ruins everything it touches. Ten men have volunteered to make the ultimate sacrifice...

Make something that's not shit. Behold! It's the...

FOFC Ultimate ReMake Challenge

You're a hot shot Executive Producer. You must choose:

1. Film to be ReMade
2. Producer
3. Director
4. Actor/Actress
5. Actor/Actress
6. Actor/Actress
7. Actor/Actress
8. WildCard/Special Element
9. Score/Soundtrack
10. Budget

-- You may choose any film from the history of the world
-- All Directors/Producers/Actors/Composers/etc must be alive and working NOW (2012)
-- WildCard can be ANYTHING. An additional actor, cinematographer, music, 3D, etc. so long as it's in use in modern film
-- You MUST select a BUDGET. Budgets are:

1st Rd. = Blockbuster (250+mil)
2nd & 3rd = Average (130 mil)
4/5/6 Rd. = Small (60 mil)
7-10 Rd = Indie (30 mil)

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want Big Money you may have to settle for less than your first choice. Conversely, if there's a Film/Actor you have your heart set on you have a smaller budget. Such is life.

Actor salaries DO NOT factor into BUDGET. It is strictly a consideration for scale (ie: War Epics = Big Budget, Comedies = Smaller Budget)

NOTE: Budget IS NOT a restriction. It is simply something to be considered by voters. You certainly can make a War Epic on an indie budget. But it may not fare well in the eyes of the voters.

(Helpful hint: if you pass on Budget in the 1st wait till the 3rd, 6th or 10th. No sense burning a pick before you have to)
I have been viewing budget as less a literal translation of cost and more of a concept of the size/scope of the movie to be made. It's not that the actors' salaries are or are not in there--it's a movie definition thing.

I think the statements about the actors' salaries not being there were only made to encourage us to not have to think within the budget with respect to our actor choices--where we wouldn't think we had to be limited because of our budget there.

We've all done this before. Selections should be made like so :

1.1 Kathy Griffin, Actress or 1.1 Blockbuster Budget

As always common courtesy and the honor system apply. Please PM the next drafter after your selection. Any controversies will be handled democratically. There is no time limit but if you're going to be away for a while let us know. We are reasonable people.

The draft log and team rosters will be kept here on the first page for handy dandy reference. I am pretty good about keeping them updated. Godspeed Gentlemen.

SERPENTINE DRAFT ORDER

1. wade moore
2. JediKooter
3. stevew
4. Suicane75
5. Chief Rum
6. Grover
7. ntndeacon
8. tarcone
9. larrymcg421
10. NorvTurnerOverdrive

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

DRAFT LOG

Google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFOdxTNaOqudFdJOXdBRHEyN3ZGaEV6RTduSEs1VGc#gid=0)

1.1 Ghostbusters (Movie)
1.2 Budget: Blockbuster ($250+Mil)
1.3 Denzel Washington, Actor
1.4 Steve Buscemi, Actor
1.5 Christopher Nolan, Director
1.6 Brad Pitt, Actor
1.7 Tom Hanks, Actor
1.8 Flash Gordon (Movie)
1.9 Leonardo DiCaprio, Actor
1.10 Budget: Blockbuster ($250+Mil)
2.1 Jaws (Movie)
2.2 Martin Scorsese, Director
2.3 Sean Connery, Actor
2.4 Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Actor
2.5 Daniel Day-Lewis, Actor
2.6 Javier Bardem, Actor
2.7 Quentin Tarantino, Director
2.8 Scarface (Movie)
2.9 JJ Abrams, Director
2.10 Jon Favreau, Director
3.1 Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
3.2 Joel Silver, Producer
3.3 Will Smith, Actor
3.4 Producer, Steven Spielberg
3.5 Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
3.6 Benicio Del Toro, Actor
3.7 Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
3.8 Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
3.9 Robert De Niro, Actor
3.10 Coen Bros., Director
4.1 James Cameron, Producer
4.2 The Godfather, Movie
4.3 Ridley Scott, Director
4.4 Steven Soderbergh, Director
4.5 Clint Eastwood, Director
4.6 Atticus Ross/Trent Reznor, Score/Soundtrack
4.7 Jack Nicholson, Actor (WildCard)
4.8 David Fincher, Director
4.9 Mark Ruffalo, Actor
4.10 Joss Whedon, Producer
5.1 Paul Rudd, Actor
5.2 ILM Special Effects (WildCard)
5.3 Scarlett Johansson, Actress
5.4 Morgan Freeman, Actor
5.5 Ryan Gosling, Actor
5.6 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Movie
5.7 The Sting, Movie
5.8 Chris Evans, Actor
5.9 Matt Damon, Actor
5.10 John Williams, Soundtrack
6.1 IMAX, WildCard
6.2 Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
6.3 Bruce Willis, Actor
6.4 Josh Brolin, Actor
6.5 Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
6.6 Blade Runner, Movie
6.7 Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
6.8 Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
6.9 Olivia Wilde, Actress
6.10 Hans Zimmer, Soundtrack
7.1 Patton Oswalt, Actor
7.2 Gary Oldman, Actor
7.3 Full Frontal Nudity (Scarlett Johansson), WildCard
7.4 Hugh Laurie, Actor
7.5 Rob Zombie, Producer
7.6 Johnny Depp, Actor
7.7 Howard Shore, Soundtrack
7.8 Keira Knightley, Actress
7.9 Francis Ford Coppola, Producer
7.10 Edward Norton, Actor
8.1 Jeff Bridges, Actor
8.2 Jeremy Renner, Actor
8.3 George Lucas, Producer
8.4 Sean Penn, Actor
8.5 Wally Pfister (Cinematographer), Wild Card
8.6 Summer Glau, Actress
8.7 "Easy Rider" Soundtrack
8.8 Daft Punk, Soundtrack
8.9 Alan Silvestri, Sound Track/Score
8.10 Mila Kunis, Actress
9.1 Tiffani Amber Thiessen, Actress (WildCard)
9.2 James Franco, Actor
9.3 Mel Gibson, Actor
9.4 Virginia Madsen, Actress
9.5 Emily Blunt, Actress
9.6 Ennio Morricone, Score
9.7 Harvey Weinstein Producer
9.8 Randy Newman, Score
9.9 James Gandolfini, Actor (WildCard)
9.10 George Clooney, Actor
10.1 Robin Wright, Actress
10.2 Philip Glass, Score/Soundtrack
10.3 Robert Zemeckis, Director of Special Effects, WildCard
10.4 Wildcard: Scott Joplin's Discography
10.5 Robert Rodriguez, Producer
10.6 Movie Twist (Wildcard)
10.7 Rain Man, Movie
10.8 Oliver Stone, Producer
10.9 Logan's Run, Movie
10.10 Richard Ayoade, Actor
ATTENTION:

At the conclusion of the draft you will be given time to post "Production Notes"

things like Synopsis, Plot Changes, Character Interpretations etc. which will be posted under your movie lineup in the voting thread

Don't get too long winded. But it's an opportunity to explain your vision for the film.


note: Production Notes aren't required. But I thought some people might like the opportunity

VOTING THREAD GOES UP SUNDAY PM

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

COMING IN 2014!!!

GHOSTBUSTERS
Executive Producer: wade moore
Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
Producer: Joss Whedon
Director: Jon Favreau
Star: Paul Rudd as "Dr. Peter Venkman"
Star: Patton Oswalt as "Dr. Ray Stantz"
Star: Mila Kunis as "Janine Melnitz"
Star: Tiffani Amber Thiessen (WC), Actress
Star: Richard Ayoade as "Dr. Egon Spangler"
Soundtrack/Score: Hans Zimmer

LOGAN'S RUN
Executive Producer: JediKooter
Budget: Blockbuster ($250+Mil)
Producer: Joel Silver
Director: JJ Abrams
Star: Mark Ruffalo as "Francis 7"
Star: Olivia Wilde as "Jessica 6"
Star: Gary Oldman as "The Old Man"
Star: James Franco as "Logan 5"
Special Element: ILM Special Effects
Soundtrack/Score: Alan Silvestri
Production Notes
The movie is remake of the 1976 movie as opposed to a true translation of the book. With special effects done by ILM to bring the dystopian world to life, JJ Abrams brings his success from the reboot of the Star Trek franchise in partnership with long time successful producer, Joel Silver. Setting the tone of the movie is two time Oscar winning composer Alan Silvestri. The ages of the actors are roughly the same ages as the original cast members from the 1976 version of the film and look like they can portray a person in their mid to late 20s. Gary Oldman plays the character that Logan and Jessica meet after they leave the domed city.

SCARFACE
Executive Producer: stevew
Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
Producer: Oliver Stone
Director: David Fincher
Star: Denzel Washington as "Tony"
Star: Will Smith as "Danny"
Star: Scarlett Johansson as "Elvira"
Star: Mel Gibson as "Frank"
WildCard: Full Frontal Nudity (Scarlett Johansson)
Soundtrack/Score: Daft Punk

RAIN MAN
Executive Producer: Suicane75
Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
Producer: Steven Spielberg
Director: Quentin Tarantino
Star: Steve Buscemi as "Raymond Babbit"
Star: Jack Nicholson (WC) as "Mother at Farmhouse"
Star: Morgan Freeman as "Dr. Bruner"
Star: Hugh Laurie as "Charlie Babbit"
Star: Virginia Madsen as "Susanna"
Soundtrack/Score: Music from "Easy Rider"

BLADE RUNNER
Executive Producer: Chief Rum
Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
Producer: Rob Zombie
Director: Christopher Nolan
Star: Javier Bardem as "Rick Deckard"
Star: Ryan Gosling as "Roy Batty"
Star: Summer Glau as "Pris"
Star: Emily Blunt as "Rachael"
WildCard: Major Plot Twist (see: Production Notes)
Soundtrack/Score: Atticus Ross/Trent Reznor
Production Notes
-- At the end of the movie, it will be revealed to the audience that, in this version of Blade Runner, the dominant race are androids, while the "replicants" are genetically engineered super humans. This will, of course, be a known fact to all characters within the movie, but we will keep this fact carefully hidden from the audience until the end of the movie (or close to the end).

THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
Executive Producer: Grover
Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
Producer: Robert Rodriguez
Director: Clint Eastwood
Star: Brad Pitt as "Blondie"
Star: Daniel Day-Lewis as "Angel Eyes"
Star: Benicio Del Toro as "Tuco"
Star: Johnny Depp as "Alcoholic Union Captain"
WildCard: Wally Pfister, Cinematographer
Soundtrack/Score: Ennio Morricone
Production Notes:
- Robert Rodriguez with an ambitious project to produce a film created by his idol Sergio Leone. Rodriguez has convinced Hollywood and spaghetti western icon Clint Eastwood to direct (one of) the film(s) that made him a superstar.

- Bradd Pitt to play the role of the iconic 'Man With No Name' also known as 'Blondie' in the film. Pitt's versatility as an A-list actor and his work playing Jessie James in the film The Assassination of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford was the catalyst for Grover, Rodriguez and Eastwood offering him the role.

- Period piece specialist Daniel Day-Lewis has agreed to play 'The Bad' Angel Eyes, originally portrayed by western veteran Lee van Cleef. Angel Eyes is the bad guy that does evil with a warm smile on his face. Nobody excels as this type of villain like Daniel Day-Lewis does.

- Hollywood quirky-man Benicio Del Toro will fill the role of the somewhat comedic, somewhat pathetic, but always confident Tuco Ramirez. Del Toro has the quality, able to play the underhanded, hot-headed role that Eli Wallach mastered in the original. Name-calling, groveling, appeasing, and dirty tactics are all trick in Del Toro's book.

- In a lesser, but important role, Johnny Depp plays the Alcoholic Union Captain. A man who knows he's beaten in battle, but knows he must continue on regardless. He fills his men with beer, wine and whiskey before battle to get their spirits up even if he knows they are walking into certain death. Depp can play the desperate but confident Captain perfectly.

- Legendary composer Ennio Morricone returns to score the remake, as he did with the original. Nobody else could possibly fill his shoes. The original film has one of the most iconic and memorable film soundtracks of all time. It only makes sense that Morricone would compose again.

- Chris Nolan's chief cinematographer and 2010 Oscar Winner for shooting Inception, Wally Pfister, takes up this western epic, making a rare departure for Nolan's side. Pfister's vision and creativity will be massive for this film, with the number of dramatic and scenes between the three main characters. His cinematography will be able to capture the emotions of the characters, while also capturing the desert and small western settlements like nobody else could possibly do. THE STING
Executive Producer: ntndeacon
Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
Producer: Harvey Weinstein
Director: Steven Soderbergh
Star: Tom Hanks as "Henry Gondorf"
Star: Phillip Seymour Hoffman as "Lt. William Snyder"
Star: Josh Brolin as "Johnny Hooker"
Star: Sean Penn as "Doyle Lonnegan"
WildCard: Scott Joplin's Discography
Soundtrack/Score: Howard Shore
Production Notes:
- It will be pretty faithful to the original with minor changes in the set up and attacks from the hit men. Specifically there is an unsuccessful attempt at Gondorf and his woman friend.
- Penn will show an even darker side to Lonnegan’s character as he is shown using a golf club to bludgeon someone to death as he learns of the loss of his numbers money.
- There will again be heavy use of Scott Joplin music throughout, including the Entertainer. Howard Shore will create new music for several parts including Luther’s death and the end credits.
FLASH GORDON
Executive Producer: tarcone
Budget: Average ($130 Mil)
Producer: George Lucas
Director: Ridley Scott
Star: Sean Connery as "Dr. Hans Zarkov"
Star: Chris Evans as "Flash"
Star: Bruce Willis as "Ming the Merciless"
Star: Keira Knightley as "Dale Arden"
WildCard: Robert Zemeckis, Director of Special Effects
Soundtrack/Score: Randy Newman
Production Notes:
Flash Gordon needed an update. The cast put together will follow along the same path as the 1980 version.
The staff brings a lot of Sci-Fi type experience.
THE GODFATHER
Executive Producer: larrymcg421
Budget: Small ($60 Mil)
Producer: Francis Ford Coppola
Director: Martin Scorsese
Star: Leonardo DiCaprio as "Michael Corleone"
Star: Robert DeNiro as "Vito Corleone"
Star: Matt Damon as "Tom Hagen"
Star: Jeremy Renner as "Sonny Corleone"
Star: James Gandolfini as "Clemenza"
Soundtrack/Score: Philip Glass
Production Notes
-Coppola and Scorsese will collaborate on the story for the remake. It will be faithful to the original with some minor changes such as adding scenes in that appeared in future DVD releases - such as the two scenes implying Woltz is a pedophile and one where Vito dismisses Michael's military accomplishments as "Christmas ribbons", and the scene of a shocked Michael in bed after Appolonia's death.
-De Niro now gets to reprise a role that won him his first Oscar and show what he can do with the older version of Vito.
-The talent I have assembled accounts for 9 Oscars and 39 Oscar nominations. In addition, Gandolfini has 3 Emmy wins as Tony Soprano.
-De Niro and Dicaprio are Scorsese's common leading men from different eras and now he gets to use them both in the same film. Also, they've previously played father in son in This Boy's Life and further worked together in Marvin's Room.
-Composer Phillip Glass will keep most of Rota's original score intact, particularly the love theme, but will come up with some new compositions that complement the original well.

JAWS
Executive Producer: NTO
Budget: Blockbuster ($250+Mil)
Producer: James Cameron
Director: Coen Bros.
Star: Jeff Bridges as "Quint"
Star: Edward Norton as "Matt Hooper"
Star: George Clooney as "Chief Brody"
Star: Robin Wright as "Ellen Brody"
Special Element: filmed in IMAX
Soundtrack/Score: John Williams
Production Notes
- Will be 'darker' but pay fair tribute to the original
- Large budget to accommodate IMAX filming and lone failing of the original: poor sfx
- Standout traits of the original were character and conflict. Coen Bros. staples
- Cameron brings technical prowess in the water and experience with blockbusters
- John Williams' score will be largely untouched
- Film's ending will be like the book's

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

pm's sent. this should be fun. i'm fascinated to see how the first couple rounds turn out

[Vince, Pt. II]

This is an awesome idea.

[Grover]

Here. We. Go.

[Ironhead]

Welcome to Hollywood (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=58251)

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Welcome to Hollywood (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=58251)
sad. i remember playing that game a long time ago and being horribly disappointed.

fyi -wade said he's got some family stuff so he won't be able to pick till sunday at the earliest.

[Grover]

So when do pick/name our movie in terms of what we're re-making?

EDIT: it's listed at #1. I'm an idiot.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

just had a question about producers. my response was as long as they have a "producer" credit on their imdb page they're eligible.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

gonna do away with the lead/supporting designation. in trying to figure out what movie i wanna do i realized lead/supporting gets really fuzzy. for now just go with:

1.1 Carrot Top, Actor

then later when it becomes clear what films everyone is doing we can start plugging guys in roles, like:

4.4 Burt Reynolds (Actor) as "The Bandit"

[Grover]

Question: Can we have a director remaking his own film?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Question: Can we have a director remaking his own film?
i don't see why not. my first thought is that it seems kinda boring. but given the advances in technology it makes sense. this is from the signup thread:

some topics for consideration:

Can I take the Actor/Director/SoundGuy from the original?
(I don't see why not. I would call you a very boring person though)

If someone takes Police Academy 3 can I take Police Academy 6?
(Again, I don't see why not. If you feel that 6 was the seminal film of the series)

If someone takes 3D from the WildCard slot is it off the board?
(I would say yes)

[Autumn]

1.1 Carrot Top, Actor

Wow, just clicking into this thread and seeing this as the new post really threw me for a loop. I thought we'd had our most audacious 1.1 pick in FOFC draft history.

[Grover]

Got a list to carry me through 4-5pm tomorrow since I'll be sleeping and working.

Can't wait to get this going.

[stevew]

I really want to see what Wade and BrIan do first. I kind of know what I'm doing. Will monitor my email.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i'm in trouble. i just looked at one of the 'hottest young actors/actresses' lists. i don't know any of them :(

if anyone has any questions/problems feel free to shoot me a pm.

[wade moore]

So I PM'd Norv, but my apologies guys.

I didn't expect us to start until Monday and I had my 7 year old niece for the weekend - first time we've watched her for more than like an hour.

Then I had a work issue I was dealing with from 8pm last night unil 3 am this morning.

So I'm just getting out the cobwebs and then I need to do some mild planning here. Hopefully I can pick in the next hour or so.

[wade moore]

FWIW - I think this may be the worst draft possible to ahve the 1.1

[Logan]

Wow, just clicking into this thread and seeing this as the new post really threw me for a loop. I thought we'd had our most audacious 1.1 pick in FOFC draft history.

Even Carrot Top can't touch Shia.

[Autumn]

Yeah, at least Carrot Top could be the perfect guy for a particular movie. Shia ...

[wade moore]

So, in this draft I think it's one of the most flexible I've participated in. Usually I think there's a clear 2 or 3 top picks, I think if we had 30 people pick 1.1, we'd have very little overlap.

With all of that said, at the top pick I select.

1.1, Ghostbusters, Movie to be Reboot

[Logan]

Remake Ghostbusters?? Sacrilege!



(first of twelve of those comments)

[Chief Rum]

So do we draft the movie we want to do in the first round, as wade just did? Or are we free to make any category oru opening selection? I believe it's the latter.

In that case, I consider that an interesting decision to start off with the movie choice. And given the wealth of movies available, that it's unlikely someone else had this movie in mind.

If not, and our "first round" picks will all be the movies we're remaking, I still consider it an interesting choice, but at least the category makes more sense for the round.

[wade moore]

So do we draft the movie we want to do in the first round, as wade just did? Or are we free to make any category oru opening selection? I believe it's the latter.

In that case, I consider that an interesting decision to start off with the movie choice. And given the wealth of movies available, that it's unlikely someone else had this movie in mind.

If not, and our "first round" picks will all be the movies we're remaking, I still consider it an interesting choice, but at least the category makes more sense for the round.

You have free reign to pick the movie in whatever round you choose.

To Logan's post - yeah, this was a bit of a balancing act. I had a lot of choices in mind, and that was a concern with several of them for me.. the.. "you can't touch movie xyz".

[Young Drachma]

Ghostbusters is an interesting selection because like Total Recall you have to wonder if wade goes entirely 'camp' to stick to the original or if he decides to play it more "straight" and take it in a more horror/noir direction.

[JediKooter]

1.2 - Budget: $250Mil+

I sure do hope Michael Winslow, Kathy Griffin and Emilio Esteves will be available.

[Chief Rum]

You know, I know it was just an example, but I can't get the thought that someone could re-make Policy Academy 6 out of my head.

Remind me, we're doing this from the "here and now" concept: only living actors/actresses/movie people, because the idea is we're releasing this in 2014.

[stevew]

3. Denzel Washington, Actor

Probably makes it back around, but I feel strongly enough that he can make any project worth seeing. Have several ideas for what I'm going to remake.

[Chief Rum]

I like Denzel. And I agree, he's a draw, no matter what he is in. Perfect example of a guy who can still pull off action scenes, is always good for Oscar-bait delivery, can be both militantly stern and disarmingly genuine, and just has that Everyman quality about him (which, let's be honest, is extremely rare for a black actor).

[stevew]

I think this one is arguably unfairly biased towards those picking at the bottom, the more i think about it. Especially if you want the uber-budget. If you're sitting in 8th, you can easily take the 250 because you'll have a great idea of what's going to be available when you're coming back around. in the top 4-5, no chance you even have an idea.

[Grover]

I'm around on my cell, so a pm will suffice. No need to use my list, Norv!

[Chief Rum]

I think this one is arguably unfairly biased towards those picking at the bottom, the more i think about it. Especially if you want the uber-budget. If you're sitting in 8th, you can easily take the 250 because you'll have a great idea of what's going to be available when you're coming back around. in the top 4-5, no chance you even have an idea.

I see what you mean, but that just puts more emphasis on those of us at the top to make impressive opening picks which will be hard to top.

Of course, that's easier for me to say--#5 isn't the best spot to be, based on your logic, but it's not so far off as higher up.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

So I PM'd Norv, but my apologies guys.
no need man. i said we wouldn't get going till today. plus it gave me a chance to iron some things out.

nice pick, btw.

[tarcone]

Is this a serpentine draft?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Is this a serpentine draft?
yes. i should have made that clear

[wade moore]

I definitely think that the placing in this draft does not hold the standard advantages.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I definitely think that the placing in this draft does not hold the standard advantages.
idk. depends on what you wanna do. i had a couple ideas and option 1a is already off the table cuz Denzel is gone (who i def did not expect to see taken so early :()

[Chief Rum]

Yes, definitely depends on what you do. I think more than anything this draft depends on you having a clear movie in mind and a vision to go off of before you start drafting.

In that way, it reminds me of the second round of the musical band draft.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

did Suicane get pm'd? make sure you pm the guy after you.

/naggy nancy

[stevew]

yeah, pm'd him at 11:44 and just double checked that it went through

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i thought about ghostbusters too but man, you really gotta bring the heat with that cast.

[Chief Rum]

i thought about ghostbusters too but man, you really gotta bring the heat with that cast.

Agreed. I will be very curious about wade's approach to this. IMO, you absolutely must have at least two top notch comedic actors, further limited by a general 20-45 age range and having to be male. You also have to consider there is no way that movie is made for less than $130 M. So wade will likely have to use one of his next two picks on the Budget.

So his second big name comedic actor may not be picked until the end of the 4th round.

Terrific movie to remake, but wade's set himself a tough road, I think. If he can pull it off, kudos to him.

It would help him if comedies are not selected as remakes too much.

[Chief Rum]

Well, okay, out of the box thinking--they don't have to be male, or not all of them. But it would be hard to pull off a female Ghostbuster, IMO.

[Suicane75]

Very interesting quandary. I already know all the particulars about the film I want to make and I need only 3 key pieces to start, one of which I know wont be taken early if at all. With that being said if I take the lead actor I want and the movie gets drafted before it gets back to my 2nd pick I can still work around things.

But if I take the movie I want and the lead actor gets taken before it gets back to me I'm kind of screwed early. So with all that being said, even though it's more likely the movie gets picked before the man, I'm gonna go ahead and select,

1.4 Steve Buscemi, Actor

[Chief Rum]

I have two must haves, in my mind, and I will have to risk one of them being picked before the draft comes back to me. My project won't be dust if I miss out on one or the other, but it will be struck a blow, IMO. I ended up going with the one I felt was more likely to not be available if I waited on him.

IMO, hands down, the most visionary director available today. And I am remaking a visionary movie, so I need his talents.

1.5 Christopher Nolan, Director

[Chief Rum]

Very interesting quandary. I already know all the particulars about the film I want to make and I need only 3 key pieces to start, one of which I know wont be taken early if at all. With that being said if I take the lead actor I want and the movie gets drafted before it gets back to my 2nd pick I can still work around things.

But if I take the movie I want and the lead actor gets taken before it gets back to me I'm kind of screwed early. So with all that being said, even though it's more likely the movie gets picked before the man, I'm gonna go ahead and select,

1.4 Steve Buscemi, Actor

Interesting choice. I think it's a reach to go for Buscemi in the first round, as good of an actor as he is, but I completely understand having a vision and locking into the perfect actor for the perfect role.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

now i can't get the goddamn ghostbusters theme out of my head

[JediKooter]

Who you gonna call?

[Chief Rum]

GHOSTBUSTERS!!!

[JediKooter]

If there's something strange, in your neighborhood...

[Chief Rum]

BTW, I guess I just don't understand the thinking that your movie could be picked by someone else. Is it possible? Of course. But with thousands of movies to pick from and only ten of us in the draft, what is really the chance someone else is going to take your movie?

[stevew]

Buscemi is one of those picks much like how Brent Barry was one of the best fantasy basketball guys for several years. Not glamorous, but you'll probably do well with him on your squad.

[Logan]

Just my opinion, but I think all the analysis around wade's pick at this point is kind of unfair. As a voter, I feel like I'm being led on to the downside I need to watch out for.

Which leads to sympathy points!

[Grover]

1.6 Brad Pitt, Actor

Could someone pm the next up for me?

[stevew]

BTW, I guess I just don't understand the thinking that your movie could be picked by someone else. Is it possible? Of course. But with thousands of movies to pick from and only ten of us in the draft, what is really the chance someone else is going to take your movie?

I probably will take mine the next time around, but I'm not 100% positive. I also think it leaves you open to having your cast raided. Not that he'd go with the exact cast from the original, but a successful remake would have to feature at least one person whom I'm thinking of from the original.

[Autumn]

That's a great pick, I think (ghostbusters). This is a fun draft because for the most part it's a solitary effort, there's not nearly as much worry about other people stealing stuff from under you, so it's more about looking at everyone's vision.

[Chief Rum]

Just my opinion, but I think all the analysis around wade's pick at this point is kind of unfair. As a voter, I feel like I'm being led on to the downside I need to watch out for.

Which leads to sympathy points!

Yes, if that's your impression of the analysis, it is unfair. Sorry, wade. :(

My main analysis there wasn't intended to be a negative on wade's pick at all. I love the movie, and I think wade could do something spectacular with it if he gets the right people. I'm just looking ahead at the task he has before him and the picks he has available to do it in, and IMO, it will be difficult and will likely require some ingenuity on his part (of which he is perfectly capable).

I wasn't trying to criticize, but instead to point out that wade has set himself on an intriguing road, and I will be curious to see the road he takes to get to his destination.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Could someone pm the next up for me?
yep. i pm'd ntndeacon

[Chief Rum]

I probably will take mine the next time around, but I'm not 100% positive. I also think it leaves you open to having your cast raided. Not that he'd go with the exact cast from the original, but a successful remake would have to feature at least one person whom I'm thinking of from the original.

I can go with that thinking, although, interestingly enough, I don't intend to recast any of the old actors from my intended film in the remake. I would probably go a route often used in these and throw them in as actors for bit roles, just to get their faces on screen for a time and give the fans a thrill.

[wade moore]

FWIW - don't be at all afraid of criticizing my picks. I'm notorious for being the biggest criticizer in these things, I'm not a "can dish it out, but not take it kind of guy."

I'm just not speaking up because I don't want to reveal my cards/opinions just yet until the draft has played through a bit more. I feel pretty strongly about picking movie at 1.1, I'll elaborate more later ;).

[Suicane75]

BTW, I guess I just don't understand the thinking that your movie could be picked by someone else. Is it possible? Of course. But with thousands of movies to pick from and only ten of us in the draft, what is really the chance someone else is going to take your movie?

All true. Except that little voice in the back of your head saying "someones gonna steal your movie and then you'll be screwed", carries a lot of weight when you've gotta wait 10 picks. :D

[Chief Rum]

Good! I'm the same way--I'll welcome any thoughts or opinions, good or bad, as to my picks, although it will no doubt be hard to judge until I reveal the movie I will be re-making.

[wade moore]

All true. Except that little voice in the back of your head saying "someones gonna steal your movie and then you'll be screwed", carries a lot of weight when you've gotta wait 10 picks. :D

Or 19.

[Chief Rum]

All true. Except that little voice in the back of your head saying "someones gonna steal your movie and then you'll be screwed", carries a lot of weight when you've gotta wait 10 picks. :D

It is a nagging, ever present nuisance, that little voice, isn't it? :D

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I feel pretty strongly about picking movie at 1.1, I'll elaborate more later ;).
yeah, i have a clever idea (not a winning idea. but a clever one) but if i build the cast first and lose the movie later i'd be completely fucked

and you suck! how's that for criticism? :p

[stevew]

I just thought of an awesome idea for the wildcard. hopefully i can play it really late.

[Suicane75]

And I think Ghostbusters is a great pick. So much of this draft is dependent on things going according to your initial plan though. But I would rather have the movie sewn up earlier, it's just easier to work around missing an actor or two than having your film taken, however unlikely.

[Suicane75]

Or 19.
Exactly


It is a nagging, ever present nuisance, that little voice, isn't it? :D

Mother? Mother? Leave me alone Mother!

[Chief Rum]

And I think Ghostbusters is a great pick. So much of this draft is dependent on things going according to your initial plan though. But I would rather have the movie sewn up earlier, it's just easier to work around missing an actor or two than having your film taken, however unlikely.

It's my plan to pick my movie somewhere in the middle of the draft. Get the essential pieces first, pick the movie, and then fill in the rest.

[stevew]

Quickly has been a wasted day.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

patience. ntndeacon was the last signup. let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Grover]

Quickly has been a wasted day.

That's a bit harsh.

[stevew]

It's 5pm? I'm not trying to be mean, but that's pretty much the definition of a wasted day.

[Grover]

It's 5pm? I'm not trying to be mean, but that's pretty much the definition of a wasted day.

I suppose it's a good thing that a draft like this isn't really all that important in the grand scheme of things then.

[Logan]

It's 5pm? I'm not trying to be mean, but that's pretty much the definition of a wasted day.

What you can wasting, I call living!

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/5595651_f260.jpg

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

just think of it as a slow developing plot :popcorn:

[JediKooter]

It's not even 3PM here, what are you talking about?

[TRO]

This is probably the most intriguing draft thread to date, at least of the ones I've noticed.

I think the Nolan pick is a homerun.

[ntndeacon]

sorry y'all I am here now and the pick is on the way

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

no worries. i knew you'd show


draft list is updated on the first page if you wanna get caught up

[heybrad]

I love following these drafts but honestly thought this one would be strange. After seeing the Ghostbusters picks, I'm hooked. I'm curious as to how that will play out.

[ntndeacon]

1.7 Tom Hanks, Actor

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

dammit. rips up draft plan 1b. throws in trash

edit: i sent tarcone a pm

[tarcone]

Im going back and forth. I looked at budgets of movies. And the $130 budget had some great epic movies. The movie Im thinking needs a big budget I think. But If I lose the movie, the budget probably doesnt need to be so big. Or even matter.
So I am picking the movie. Because I have always wanted to re-make this movie.

1-8 Flash Gordon

[tarcone]

pm sent

[WVUFAN]

John Carter flopped in the BO, and Flash is a DIRECT copy of John Carter(Flash was created because the creator couldn't secure the rights to John Carter). With the right director, though, I could see it doing well.

[stevew]

I though JC flopped cause it had a dumb title

[JediKooter]

FLASH!!! AHH AHH!!!

[JediKooter]

It flopped because it didn't have any moms/milfs.

[stevew]

How did Dee Gordon's dad get taken so early

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i've changed my mind ten times today. good grief. this is why i don't play chess

[larrymcg421]

1.9 Leonardo DiCaprio, Actor

[Grover]

Stand by, Larry. I've got Norv's picks

[Grover]

NorvTurnerOverdrive SELECTS:

1.10 Blockbuster Budget

2.1 Jaws (Movie)

[larrymcg421]

2.2 Martin Scorsese, Director

[Grover]

2.2 Martin Scorsese, Director

Without a doubt my favorite director ever.

Besides the truckloads of fantastic films, nobody uses music like Scorsese does to fill the mood of his films.

[DanGarion]

John Carter flopped in the BO, and Flash is a DIRECT copy of John Carter(Flash was created because the creator couldn't secure the rights to John Carter). With the right director, though, I could see it doing well.

He saved every one of us.

[larrymcg421]

Surprised at the high budget choice for Jaws.

[Grover]

Surprised at the high budget choice for Jaws.

You think? I'd say it's perfect for a blockbuster budget in this day and age. And not just because it's considered the first summer blockbuster movie.

[tarcone]

2-3 Actor Sean Connery (Dr. Hans Zarkov)

Changed him to this character. I have another idea for Ming. But it may change. Casting is fluid right now.

[larrymcg421]

Whew. Glad I didn't go the other route I was considering, because that pick would've screwed me royally.

[ntndeacon]

2.4 Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Actor

[Suicane75]

Some very interesting picks. I think this is shaping up to be much more about personal vision than star power, so to speak. Will make the presentation/voting aspect all that more fun.

[JediKooter]

NorvTurnerOverdrive SELECTS:

1.10 Blockbuster Budget



???

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

???
i assume you're asking one of two things

a. why so much for jaws?
it cost 40 million in 1975. that's like a trillion dollars** in todays economy

plus, you don't remake a classic unless you do something better/different. i'd like it to be darker like the book (i'll get into that during casting) i'd like it to be R-rated (the original was PG!!!) and i want that goddamn shark to look so realistic you can smell fish in the theatre

b. you thought BUDGET was exclusive like actors/directors/films etc
it's not. everyone (except you and i) passed in the first round in favor of their first choice or because they felt they didn't need big money. but don't worry it will come around. i predict the 3rd round will look like this

Average Budget
your pick
Average Budget
Average Budget
Average Budget
Average Budget
Carrot Top, Actor
Average Budget
Average Budget
my pick

you dig?


**give or take. i'm not great @math

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Some very interesting picks.
some GREAT picks. everyone's throwing fastballs. this is fun

[Grover]

2.5 Daniel Day-Lewis, Actor

Brad Pitt and DDL co-starring?

We are off to a great start.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

great pick

[Chief Rum]

2.5 Daniel Day-Lewis, Actor

Brad Pitt and DDL co-starring?

We are off to a great start.

I hate you. One pick away from what I was angling for with my two picks and you blow it all up? You see that glint in my eye? Don't sleep with the light off, my friend! :banghead: :devil: :mad:

:D

[Grover]

I hate you. One pick away from what I was angling for with my two picks and you blow it all up? You see that glint in my eye? Don't sleep with the light off, my friend! :banghead: :devil: :mad:

:D

Bwhahahah!

I knew I had to grab him where I did or he'd be gone. I was much more right than I thought.

[Chief Rum]

All right, this is not nearly as close to my vision as I had hoped, but I think this next guy will still fill the role I had planned for Day-Lewis just fine. And even if I find someone better for that role, this guy would also work for the other key role (it is in fact the lead).

2.6 Javier Bardem, Actor/Actress

[Grover]

All right, this is not nearly as close to my vision as I had hoped, but I think this next guy will still fill the role I had planned for Day-Lewis just fine. And even if I find someone better for that role, this guy would also work for the other key role (it is in fact the lead).

2.6 Javier Bardem

Great pick. I was hoping to get him later in the draft as my fourth actor.

[Chief Rum]

Bwhahahah!

I knew I had to grab him where I did or he'd be gone. I was much more right than I thought.

Very much so. He's a brilliant pick, and frankly, you should have taken him with your first round pick. I don't know if Pitt would still be here, but he's replacebale. DDL is not.

In the same year DDL provided his most gut wrenching amazing acting performance, Bardem fashioned together one of the scariest villains of all time. I am hoping that will at least help him fill the role I had earmarked for DDL.

[Chief Rum]

Great pick. I was hoping to get him later in the draft as my fourth actor.

Thanks. Nabbing Bardem as a fourth actor would have been brilliant of course. I don't think there was anyway he would have lasted that long. But, yeah, if you had pulled that off, that would have been quite a coup.

Almost as much of a coup as I almost pulled off with Nolan at director and DDL in the movie, damn you! :D

[JediKooter]

i assume you're asking one of two things

a. why so much for jaws?
it cost 40 million in 1975. that's like a trillion dollars** in todays economy

plus, you don't remake a classic unless you do something better/different. i'd like it to be darker like the book (i'll get into that during casting) i'd like it to be R-rated (the original was PG!!!) and i want that goddamn shark to look so realistic you can smell fish in the theatre

b. you thought BUDGET was exclusive like actors/directors/films etc
it's not. everyone (except you and i) passed in the first round in favor of their first choice or because they felt they didn't need big money. but don't worry it will come around. i predict the 3rd round will look like this

Average Budget
your pick
Average Budget
Average Budget
Average Budget
Average Budget
Carrot Top, Actor
Average Budget
Average Budget
my pick

you dig?


**give or take. i'm not great @math

Yup I dig. The list implied to me that there could only be one big budget movie. No biggie. I told you guys I would interpret something wrong. :)

[wade moore]

Has Suicane been PMd?

[Young Drachma]

All I have to say is...your audiences better be as savvy some of you middlebrow erudite executive producers are. ;)

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Has Suicane been PMd?
yes

[Barkeep49]

2.6 Javier Bardem, Actor/Actress

So are you having Nolan remake Some Like it Hot? Or is it Glen or Glenda? I ask because I'm just having trouble figuring out what movie Bardem would be both an Actor and Actress in :)

That said I think Nolan is my favorite pick of this draft so far. I agree that he's one of the 2 most inventive directors around today and so could credibly remake many movies in interesting ways.

[Chief Rum]

Has Suicane been PMd?

Sí

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

That said I think Nolan is my favorite pick of this draft so far. I agree that he's one of the 2 most inventive directors around today and so could credibly remake many movies in interesting ways.
HE'S AN A OVERRATED HACK!1!

who just happens to make billions and billions of dollars

[Chief Rum]

So are you having Nolan remake Some Like it Hot? Or is it Glen or Glenda? I ask because I'm just having trouble figuring out what movie Bardem would be both an Actor and Actress in :)

That said I think Nolan is my favorite pick of this draft so far. I agree that he's one of the 2 most inventive directors around today and so could credibly remake many movies in interesting ways.

Haha... yeah, I was just following the first post conventions there. ;)

No, no Tootsie lies in Bardem's future, at least not at my hands.

I am uncertain yet when I will make my movie pick. It won't be in the third round. It might be in the fourth, but if I had to guess, it will be fifth or sixth.

When I do, I will appropriately name the roles the actors I have chosen are playing.

[Grover]

Has Suicane been PMd?

Oui.

[stevew]

If we waste 5 hours so that someone can take a medium budget in the 3rd round, I'm going to scream.

I see no reason why those cant be declared asap

[Chief Rum]

If we waste 5 hours so that someone can take a medium budget in the 3rd round, I'm going to scream.

I see no reason why those cant be declared asap

This is actually something I was thinking we should do, too, and just declare it now if we're intending to do that with our third pick.

I intend to select the second level budget (whatever we're calling it, the $130 M) as my third round pick.

[Barkeep49]

If it helps I'd be happy to take lists from people in advance as I can be around a fair amount at this time and would simply keep quiet about people's plans.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

If we waste 5 hours so that someone can take a medium budget in the 3rd round, I'm going to scream.

I see no reason why those cant be declared asap
he makes a fair point. at the least you could send me a pm with your budget if you intend to take one in the 3rd

[Suicane75]

2.7 Quenitn Tarantino, Director

[Grover]

It's been one minute. If stevew doesn't make his pick by 1:10, I'm going to scream.

But no, he makes a good point.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

If it helps I'd be happy to take lists from people in advance as I can be around a fair amount at this time and would simply keep quiet about people's plans.
this is a good idea too. a neutral party you can leave a couple picks with if you're not going to be around

[stevew]

2.8 Scarface

Sorry. Was in class

[stevew]

I'm taking budget with 3.3

[Grover]

if you'd like to add this to one of the earlier posts with the list of who's selected what..

Welcome to Google Docs (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFOdxTNaOqudFdJOXdBRHEyN3ZGaEV6RTduSEs1VGc#gid=0)

[stevew]

Face book messaged Brian

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

if you'd like to add this to one of the earlier posts with the list of who's selected what..

Welcome to Google Docs (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFOdxTNaOqudFdJOXdBRHEyN3ZGaEV6RTduSEs1VGc#gid=0)
Awesome Grover! thank you

[JediKooter]

2.9 JJ Abrams - Director

[JediKooter]

I PM'd Wade. Not sure if he's online though.

[stevew]

RE: Jaws-
Probably would take 200m to make these days. Perhaps less with no name actors.

Ghostbusters at 130 even seems iffy. G3 was budgeted at 150, and that was last year I think.

[Grover]

Awesome Grover! thank you

Thank my friend who is not even a member on this forum.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

funny thing about wade. he sent me a list and i accidentally deleted it. sorry guys

[JediKooter]

So you're saying...Gonna need a bigger budget?

Sorry couldn't resist.

[wade moore]

2.10, Jon Favreau, Direcotr

3.1, Budget, $130 million

[Barkeep49]

RE: Jaws-
Probably would take 200m to make these days. Perhaps less with no name actors.

Ghostbusters at 130 even seems iffy. G3 was budgeted at 150, and that was last year I think.
Isn't budget w/o acting/directing though? I think that really matters if you're talking about X dollars on production as opposed to X dollars on production and talent salaries.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

RE: Jaws-
Probably would take 200m to make these days.
and that's not even factoring in the hookers and blow the executive producer would burn through

[wade moore]

RE: Jaws-
Probably would take 200m to make these days. Perhaps less with no name actors.

Ghostbusters at 130 even seems iffy. G3 was budgeted at 150, and that was last year I think.

I looked at recent movie budgets. $130mil fits in with pixar movies, Twilight movies, and others of that ilk. Especially when we don't have to pay actor salaries, $130 mil is more than enough. If G3 had a 150mil budget, how much of that was slated for Murray for instance? We'll be fine at $130mil.

funny thing about wade. he sent me a list and i accidentally deleted it. sorry guys

You're going crazy, I didn't send you a list ;).

[stevew]

Budget is everything except marketing

[Young Drachma]

Not sure why this even had to be a "draft" per se. Unlike say, band members or whatever...actors and so forth can be in more than one flick at a time. Seems like you'd kill the slowsie problem by just letting people submit their projects by time/date/place or whatever. There will be overlap, but...at the end of the day, think of it as 'pitching' the project rather than this being a bunch of greenlighted films.

[stevew]

If budget isnt actors salary, I want to make a different 3rd round pick

[Grover]

2.10, Jon Favreau, Direcotr

3.1, Budget, $130 million

Favreau... very interesting. I would have picked someone else for Ghostbusters, but I'll wait to see if he gets selected before I say anything.

[Barkeep49]

2.10, Jon Favreau, Direcotr

3.1, Budget, $130 million
Why Jon Favreau? I think he's a prefectly fine director who certainly could do the action/comedy of Ghostbusters, but there's nothing about his work that stands out to me as an example of great artistry. I think Ivan Reitman is a better talent frankly.

To me any remake has to answer the "Why" question. It's why I think most of the best remakes were remakes of movies with good premises that weren't particularly well executed. Bring in some better talent and suddenly you're better able to fully realize a premise. Remaking something good in the first place, like Ghostbusters, is always going to be trickier, I feel.

[Grover]

If budget isnt actors salary, I want to make a different 3rd round pick

Budget doesn't count toward salaries of actors, because an actor will take a lower salary for the right role. We've seen it with numerous indie films.

[Grover]

Not sure why this even had to be a "draft" per se. Unlike say, band members or whatever...actors and so forth can be in more than one flick at a time. Seems like you'd kill the slowsie problem by just letting people submit their projects by time/date/place or whatever. There will be overlap, but...at the end of the day, think of it as 'pitching' the project rather than this being a bunch of greenlighted films.

Don't try and kill our drafting fun!

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Not sure why this even had to be a "draft" per se. Unlike say, band members or whatever...actors and so forth can be in more than one flick at a time. Seems like you'd kill the slowsie problem by just letting people submit their projects by time/date/place or whatever. There will be overlap, but...at the end of the day, think of it as 'pitching' the project rather than this being a bunch of greenlighted films.
where's the fun in that?

[stevew]

Non dola

I'm assuming 130=theoretical cost of talent, director, production, writing, effects

[wade moore]

Favreau... very interesting. I would have picked someone else for Ghostbusters, but I'll wait to see if he gets selected before I say anything.

He has proven chops directing comedy and action - seemed like the perfect fit to me. I'll be curious to see who you had in mind.

[wade moore]

Why Jon Favreau? I think he's a prefectly fine director who certainly could do the action/comedy of Ghostbusters, but there's nothing about his work that stands out to me as an example of great artistry. I think Ivan Reitman is a better talent frankly.

To me any remake has to answer the "Why" question. It's why I think most of the best remakes were remakes of movies with good premises that weren't particularly well executed. Bring in some better talent and suddenly you're better able to fully realize a premise. Remaking something good in the first place, like Ghostbusters, is always going to be trickier, I feel.
Perhaps I'm hampered here by not having a breadth of knowledge in directors, but as I said Favreau seemed the perfect fit to do a comedy/action movie to me.

[wade moore]

Non dola

I'm assuming 130=theoretical cost of talent, director, production, writing, effects

The rules specifically state:

Actor salaries DO NOT factor into BUDGET. It is strictly a consideration for scale (ie: War Epics = Big Budget, Comedies = Smaller Budget)

[stevew]

So then Jaws is the most expensive film ever

[Chief Rum]

I have been viewing budget as less a literal translation of cost and more of a concept of the size/scope of the movie to be made. It's not that the actors' salaries are or are not in there--it's a movie definition thing.

I think the statements about the actors' salaries not being there were only made to encourage us to not have to think within the budget with respect to our actor choices--where we wouldn't think we had to be limited because of our budget there.

[stevew]

Scratch my budget pick then

[Barkeep49]

Perhaps I'm hampered here by not having a breadth of knowledge in directors, but as I said Favreau seemed the perfect fit to do a comedy/action movie to me.
Sent you a PM with who I'd have picked. I think Favreau is solid, no doubt about it. I guess to me though his selection just begs the question, why remake Ghostbusters in the first place? I think NTO did a good job of explaining why he wants to remake Jaws, I'm curious what you see for why to remake Ghostbusters. Did you talk about this upthread and I missed it?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I have been viewing budget as less a literal translation of cost and more of a concept of the size/scope of the movie to be made. It's not that the actors' salaries are or are not in there--it's a movie definition thing.

I think the statements about the actors' salaries not being there were only made to encourage us to not have to think within the budget with respect to our actor choices--where we wouldn't think we had to be limited because of our budget there.
this

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

and i think favreau is a fine pick

[wade moore]

Sent you a PM with who I'd have picked. I think Favreau is solid, no doubt about it. I guess to me though his selection just begs the question, why remake Ghostbusters in the first place? I think NTO did a good job of explaining why he wants to remake Jaws, I'm curious what you see for why to remake Ghostbusters. Did you talk about this upthread and I missed it?

1. I would have picked that person if I had thought about it.

2. I think you're over-thinking this game ;).

[JediKooter]

3.2 Joel Silver: Producer

[Barkeep49]

Fair enough :)

[stevew]

3.3 Will Smith

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

my vision for this draft was to have it read like the "upcoming movies" in entertainment weekly. if they tried remaking 'jaws' for any less than 300mil i would start punching babies

[wade moore]

Fair enough :)

To be more direct to your question though..

I think GB was a fun film in concept and execution. One that deserves to be brought to younger generations, updated in technology and feel. I'd be just as happy for that to be GB3 I suppose, but even with that GB3 has always been in-concept a "passing of the torch" to a new generation.

So, why not do that in a reboot? Start fresh with what is a good idea, freshen it up with new actors, technology, and feel - and boom, instant Hollywood blockbuster.

At least, that's the hope for me!

[Grover]

See, I'm in the same boat as Wade. I want to remake a fantastic film for this time period.

[stevew]

I pmd suicane

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

3.3 Will Smith
ah, i see what you're doing. that's cool steve

[stevew]

I'm still torn as to who plays what character. I have Smith tentatively in the Manny role

[Chief Rum]

I'm still torn as to who plays what character. I have Smith tentatively in the Manny role

I was wondering what you were aiming for. American Gangsters just came out three years ago or whatever. ;)

[Grover]

I was wondering what you were aiming for. American Gangsters just came out three years ago or whatever. ;)

I was thinking this too. "Isn't Scarface with African-American actors American Gangster?"

[stevew]

It isn't a literal remake of scarface(83) Much like the remake wasnt a literal remake of Scarface(32)

[Barkeep49]

I think changing gender/race to the same core story could be a very interesting reason to remake a movie. Not having seen either Scarface (not sure how that's always passed me by) I can't comment here.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

watched it a couple times this weekend on amc.

[heybrad]

Not sure why this even had to be a "draft" per se. Unlike say, band members or whatever...actors and so forth can be in more than one flick at a time. Seems like you'd kill the slowsie problem by just letting people submit their projects by time/date/place or whatever. There will be overlap, but...at the end of the day, think of it as 'pitching' the project rather than this being a bunch of greenlighted films.
I like this idea where everybody comes into a thread at a designated time and pitches their overall project and the voters then greenlight a particular movie.

[JediKooter]

Hey Brad! The Movie

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

everybody comes into a thread at a designated time
good luck with that

[Grover]

This is actually something I was thinking we should do, too, and just declare it now if we're intending to do that with our third pick.

I intend to select the second level budget (whatever we're calling it, the $130 M) as my third round pick.

I assume this is still in standing after Sui's pick?

I'm itching to get my third out of the way :D

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I assume this is still in standing after Sui's pick?

I'm itching to get my third out of the way :D
yes

edit: i'm an illiterate ass

[Subby]

Barkeep and I were playing this game 12 years ago, so I think he and I are both prone to overanalyzing these picks.

I don't think Favreau is a terrible pick, but I also think you need someone with better comedy success. Ghostbusters: Remix has to be FUNNIER than the first go 'round. I'll tell you in chat who I thought you should have gone with, but I think you probably already know.

[DanGarion]

It isn't a literal remake of scarface(83) Much like the remake wasnt a literal remake of Scarface(32)

New Jack City!

[Suicane75]

3.4 Producer, Steven Spielberg

[Grover]

Who's posting Chief's pick for him :)

[Suicane75]

Norv already has it logged so I'm assuming it's safe for you to pick, but in any event.

3.5 Budget, (Chiefs Pick)

[Grover]

3.6 Benicio Del Toro, Actor

Pitt, Day-Lewis and Del Toro are all co-stars in the truest sense for my picture.

[Grover]

and yes, deacon has been pm'd

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

everyone's doing an awesome job. i'm really impressed

[Suicane75]

Pitt, Day-Lewis and Del Toro are all co-stars in the truest sense for my picture.

You're remaking The 3 Stooges aren't you?

[Suicane75]

Btw, not to toot my own horn, but how the hell is Spielberg still available 24 picks into this thing?

[Grover]

You're remaking The 3 Stooges aren't you?

Shit. I've been found out.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i wish real hollywood was this exciting/good

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Btw, not to toot my own horn, but how the hell is Spielberg still available 24 picks into this thing?
don't sprain your elbow patting yourself on the back :D

tbh, my 1.1 is still on the board

[JediKooter]

don't sprain your elbow patting yourself on the back :D

tbh, my 1.1 is still on the board

Same here for my other choices. I did have Spielberg as a backup plan though.

[tarcone]

I could see the stooges.

[wade moore]

don't sprain your elbow patting yourself on the back :D

tbh, my 1.1 is still on the board

That makes no sense whatsoever. Why would you not take your 1.1 at 1.10 or 2.1?

[tarcone]

Spielberg would have been great for my movie

[Grover]

I am looking forward to each pick with anticipation.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Why would you take your 1.1 at 1.10 or 2.1?
I HAVE POOR DECISION MAKING SKILLS

[tarcone]

Im almost up. I will be picking budget. So if Im not around it will keep things moving,

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

THANK YOU TARCONE

:turns off caps lock:

[JediKooter]

My ears are ringing...

[Suicane75]

I skipped Spielberg twice as well so of course I'm not applauding myself, I just find it insane that he lasted that long.

I kind of understand not picking your first picks first if you fully believe nobody else is gonna take them. I'm confident waiting on my co-star till the end because I just don't think anyone will select him or her.

[Chief Rum]

You're remaking The 3 Stooges aren't you?

I thought it would be Three Amigos. Or Three Men and a Baby.

[Chief Rum]

Btw, not to toot my own horn, but how the hell is Spielberg still available 24 picks into this thing?

I thought a lot about Spielberg, especially since it's hard to get a producer whom everyone truly knows. But the fact of the matter is, IMO, producers have less to do with the creative content and impact than the director and actors, so I decided to put producer on the backburner and concentrate on the key cogs of my movie.

I, too, thought Spielberg would go much sooner, so congrats on getting him where you did.

[ntndeacon]

3.7 budget

[Grover]

Tarcone selected: 3.8 Budget, $130m

[larrymcg421]

3.9 Robert De Niro, Actor

[Grover]

NorvTurnerOverdrive SELECTS:

3.10 Coen Bros., Director

4.1 James Cameron, Producer

[tarcone]

I was wondering about the coen bros. If they would be considered one or 2.

[Grover]

I was wondering about the coen bros. If they would be considered one or 2.

I'd consider them a package deal since they are virtually inseparable when directing.

[tarcone]

I agree. But was wondering about the ruling, when it came down. Good thing the creator made the choice. No controversey. :)

[Subby]

larrymcg predictably crushing this thing...

[larrymcg421]

4.2 Movie, The Godfather

Dicaprio as Michael Corleone.
De Niro as Vito Corleone.

[Grover]

4.2 Movie, The Godfather

Dicaprio as Michael Corleone.
De Niro as Vito Corleone.

Oooooooooooh.

[tarcone]

4-3 Director Ridley Scott

[tarcone]

I like Larrys start. Good actor choices for those roles

[Chief Rum]

Great movie, of course, and great actors and a director who is often mistaken as the director of the Godfather by newbs, based on his other work in the genre.

But this will be an interesting mix to work out. The star power is undeniable, but the question was raised with other movies--how would a remake bring something new to one of the greatest movies ever made?

DeNiro getting to play the old Vito now. Obviously, he can pull that role off. And DiCaprio is generally amazing. But can he play a quiet, studious and ultimately coldblooded son of a Sicilian don? I know DiCaprio can pull it off, acting wise. But the look? Tougher.

[stevew]

RE: Directors.

Like you can get like McG or Justin Lin in the 10th round, hence why some of the good ones drop to the middle of the third.

[Grover]

Great movie, of course, and great actors and a director who is often mistaken as the director of the Godfather by newbs, based on his other work in the genre.

But this will be an interesting mix to work out. The star power is undeniable, but the question was raised with other movies--how would a remake bring something new to one of the greatest movies ever made?

DeNiro getting to play the old Vito now. Obviously, he can pull that role off. And DiCaprio is generally amazing. But can he play a quiet, studious and ultimately coldblooded son of a Sicilian don? I know DiCaprio can pull it off, acting wise. But the look? Tougher.

I'm curious to see who else is cast. I'm assuming it's Hagen and Sonny for the other two roles.

[tarcone]

I think Scott is the perfect director for my movie. there was one other I was thinking. But I didnt want to miss out on Scott directing my remake. Im a big fan.

[Grover]

Question for Norv, I don't see it in the rules, so I assume it's fair game, but it had been discussed pre-draft:

If something is taken in Wildcard: can it only be used once overall? The example I'll use is 3D because it's in the original post.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Question for Norv, I don't see it in the rules, so I assume it's fair game, but it had been discussed pre-draft:

If something is taken in Wildcard: can it only be used once overall? The example I'll use is 3D because it's in the original post.
i would say yes, but i'd reserve judgment until i saw what it was. it can't be something super broad like 'rock n roll music'

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I agree. But was wondering about the ruling, when it came down. Good thing the creator made the choice. No controversey. :)
i had always considered them a single entity. same goes for any other 'bros.' out there if anyone is considering it.

and they were my 1.1 btw.

'no country' on the ocean, replace javier bardem with a shark and boom, go!

and how bout james cameron? who knows more about blank checks and filming in the ocean?

[Chief Rum]

I'm still a bit confused as to the purpose/point of the wildcard option, to be honest. Not saying it's bad, just that I don't understand what the intent is, or exactly what the scope of it is, so it makes it harder to come up with one that fits the category as intended.

[Grover]

I'm still a bit confused as to the purpose/point of the wildcard option, to be honest. Not saying it's bad, just that I don't understand what the intent is, or exactly what the scope of it is, so it makes it harder to come up with one that fits the category as intended.

I'm using my wild card with my next pick, as soon as deacon selects.

Maybe.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I'm still a bit confused as to the purpose/point of the wildcard option, to be honest. Not saying it's bad, just that I don't understand what the intent is, or exactly what the scope of it is, so it makes it harder to come up with one that fits the category as intended.
whatever is going to compel people to see your movie. it's in 3D, a great writer worked on it, a great cinematographer worked on it, it's cgi was done by the best company etc etc

or it can be used for an additional cast member.

[Chief Rum]

Aww, okay, that works. Thanks.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

in regards to WildCard:

someone just brought up, 'if i select a certain screenwriter are all writers off the board?"

no. not when it comes to production people. but 'special elements' like 3D, Imax, specific cgi/sfx companies, etc are off the board.

so if you take 3D no one else can take 3D. if you take a writer someone else can take a writer just not your writer

[stevew]

My wildcard is going to change this draft

[Grover]

I'm sure the answer is yes, but did deacon get a pm?

[Chief Rum]

My wildcard is going to change this draft

I got one word for you, Scarface: Claymation!

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I'm sure the answer is yes, but did deacon get a pm?
i just sent him one

I got one word for you, Scarface: Claymation!
:lol:

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

man. a 'the godfather' remake is fucking bold. it's considered to be a perfect movie.

you better bring the heat down the stretch larry

[Grover]

man. a 'the godfather' remake is fucking bold. it's considered to be a perfect movie.

you better bring the heat down the stretch larry

I'm feeling a similar reaction over my remake.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yeah, i don't have the balls. i almost didn't have the balls to do jaws

[Chief Rum]

I chose a movie that is loved for what it is, but is still generally regarded as a movie that could have been done better, given the resources. So now I am taking the opportunity to do so.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

man, ntndeacon's schedule is backwards. he's here when he's not on the clock, gone when he is.

not complaining though. draft's are super fun. i swear there's a business in this somehow.

[Grover]

Left my next three picks with Norv. I hope you'll enjoy them. Well, sixth round is budget, but otherwise...

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yeah, i'm hitting the hay myself. i left Grover's next pick with Chief.

barkeep49 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/member.php?u=696) has volunteered to be a surrogate poster if people are going to be away for a while. pm him with a pick or 2

[ntndeacon]

trivia time is the right time!. hold on and I will look for a good addition

[ntndeacon]

4.4 Steven Soderbergh, Director

[Izulde]

I wish I'd gotten in on this draft. :(

Some insanely cool looking projects shaping up, though.

[Grover]

4.5 Clint Eastwood, Director

[Chief Rum]

4.6 Atticus Ross/Trent Reznor, Score/Soundtrack

[Suicane75]

4.7 Wildcard, Actor, Jack Nicholson

I'm using the Wildcard here cause I don't wanna overthink myself and get goofy with it later, plus even though it's a small scene in the original I think a lot can be done with it in this version and I need my 4 main actor slots, so yeah.