Fantasy Football 2012: Who Should I Start This Week?

[Scoobz0202]

I'll kick it off. Struggling with one of my leagues.

PPR. 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex.

QB
Matthew Stafford
Ryan Fitzpatrick

RB
Ahmad Bradshaw vs DAL
Arian Foster vs MIA
Doug Martin vs CAR
Willis McGahee vs PIT

WR
Calvin Johnson vs STL
Miles Austin @ NYG
Steve Johnson @ NYJ
Austin Collie @ CHI
Anquan Boldin vs CIN

TE
Jared Cook vs NEP
Greg Olsen @ TBB



Stafford, Foster, C. Johnson are guarantees obviously. But I'm struggling with the #2 WR, #2 RB, and flex.

I'm thinking about going with two RBs (Bradshaw and Martin) and one WR (Austin). Anybody think otherwise? I'm a homer and would like to avoid starting Bradshaw (Cowboys fan), but that's a dumb ass reason and think the drop off from him to S Johnson, Collie, or McGahee (would consider him but PIT scares me. Am I thinking of the PIT of old, or is that still something that should scare me?) would be too much just because I am too attached to the Cowboys.

[stevew]

Adrian Peterson or Ben Tate or Kendall Hunter or (possibly)Evan Royster.

I think they will somehow get Peterson a TD, but I'm not sure if he will get much action if the team isn't doing well.

I'm leaning towards playing Tate with Foster(who I also have) and hoping to get 25-30 points from the 2.

[Scoobz0202]

Out of those four I would go Hunter or Tate. I could see Tate getting some late game touches if the game goes like I see it going.

But in the end i'd probably go Hunter solely because I don't know that I'd like to start two RBs from the same team. But thats a personal thing and it very well maybe the smart play.

[Qwikshot]

I'll kick it off. Struggling with one of my leagues.

PPR. 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex.

QB
Matthew Stafford
Ryan Fitzpatrick

RB
Ahmad Bradshaw vs DAL
Arian Foster vs MIA
Doug Martin vs CAR
Willis McGahee vs PIT

WR
Calvin Johnson vs STL
Miles Austin @ NYG
Steve Johnson @ NYJ
Austin Collie @ CHI
Anquan Boldin vs CIN

TE
Jared Cook vs NEP
Greg Olsen @ TBB



Stafford, Foster, C. Johnson are guarantees obviously. But I'm struggling with the #2 WR, #2 RB, and flex.

I'm thinking about going with two RBs (Bradshaw and Martin) and one WR (Austin). Anybody think otherwise? I'm a homer and would like to avoid starting Bradshaw (Cowboys fan), but that's a dumb ass reason and think the drop off from him to S Johnson, Collie, or McGahee (would consider him but PIT scares me. Am I thinking of the PIT of old, or is that still something that should scare me?) would be too much just because I am too attached to the Cowboys.

See those in bold.

[Danny]

Tate if you have matchup advantage, Royster if you have disadvantage. Tate should be good for a solid but low amount of points and does guarentee you get all Houston RB points. Royster could get 100 yards and a td or 5 yards, who knows, but he is the play with the most upside.

[Flasch186]

1 flex PPR

Helu
Amendola
Collie
E. Bennett
M. Floyd
Pettigrew

[Glengoyne]

All Right I feel like my team should be renamed to The Walking Wounded. For Running Backs.


Adrian Peterson
Darren Sproles
Stephen Ridley
Ryan Mathews
I can go with two of those RBs... or I can use one RB and three receivers.


Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
Steve Johnson
Antonio Brown

[Scoobz0202]

I'd consider starting Sproles, C Johnson, A Johnson, and Brown for week one...

PPR?

[Scoobz0202]

1 flex PPR

Helu
Amendola
Collie
E. Bennett
M. Floyd
Pettigrew

Floyd or Pettigrew, although with Floyd playing the Raiders I'd say it's easily him.

[Glengoyne]

No PPR

I'm thinking of the same lineup.
I'm really torn between Sproles and Peterson.
I'm not confident in going with either of them.


I'm really kicking myself for taking Mathews now. I knew better.

[muns]

1 PPR

Need some opinions on my Flex spot. It's between these 3.

WR-Titus Young
WR- Lance Moore
RB- Pierre Thomas

[muns]

Floyd or Pettigrew, although with Floyd playing the Raiders I'd say it's easily him.

+1

[MrBug708]

RB (2 Needed)
Jamaal Charles vs ATL
DeMarco Murray @ NYG
Matt Forte vs IND

[muns]

RB (2 Needed)
Jamaal Charles vs ATL
DeMarco Murray @ NYG
Matt Forte vs IND


I'd go with Murray and Forte. I'd want to see how the carries shake out in the chiefs back field before id start Charles before the other 2

[Sublime 2]

Need two (one rb and one flex):

Adrian Peterson
Toby Gerhart
Deangelo Williams
D. Heyward-Bey
Torrey Smith
Mike Williams

Should I just roll with AP and Toby?

[Danny]

Id go Sproles, Ridley, Johnson x2

[sooner333]

2 WR 2 RB 1 FLEX

Starting Harvin, Lloyd, Fred Jackson

Need to start 1 RB and 1 FLEX out of:

Hillis, Amendola, McGahee, Ingram. Leaning toward Hillis and Amendola. I also have Kenny Britt, but that's not going to help this week.

[Glengoyne]

Id go Sproles, Ridley, Johnson x2

That is where I ended up. For some reason I thought Sproles was listed as Questionable/Doubtful for the game, but that is not the case.

Really kicking myself for not snapping up Doug Martin rather than Mathews in my draft. I had taken Martin as my first round rookie pick in a keeper league, and I really don't like having duplicate players across leagues. Last year I had Chris Johnson and Antonio Gates in two leagues. I didn't fare well.

[Julio Riddols]

Need two (one rb and one flex):

Adrian Peterson
Toby Gerhart
Deangelo Williams
D. Heyward-Bey
Torrey Smith
Mike Williams

Should I just roll with AP and Toby?

I like Toby and Deangelo, but Torrey Smith is also in line for a ton of targets. I think you could go with any 2 of those 3.

[SirFozzie]

Here's who I picked up in my auction league ($200 for 16 players, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/Defense-Special Team, 6 Bench)

QB

Aaron Rodgers (GB) $50
Andrew Luck (IND) $4
Andy Dalton (CIN) $2)

RB
Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG) $15
Kevin Smith (DET) $6
Steven Ridley (NE) $5

WR
Roddy White (ATL) $35
Steve Smith (CAR) $12
Miles Austin (DAL) $6
Michael Crabtree (SF) $4
Santonio Holmes (NYJ) $2

TE
Jimmy Graham (NO) $26

Defense/Special Teams
Texans ($4)
Steelers ($3)

Kicker:
Steven Gostkowski (NE) $3
Adam Vinatieri (IND) $15 (in a "It's my final player, so spend all my money just for giggles)

Thoughts:

Well, I have one of the gems at QB in Rodgers, plus I can see who will back him up in Luck (Probably) or Dalton. It depends on the matchup I guess the week Rodgers is out.

RB is a crap sandwich, as I have to hope that Bradshaw does a lot of business for me, and Ridley or Smith set up to be my #2. But the prices people were paying for RB, ugh.

TE, well, if Graham goes down, so does my season probably.. but if he doesn't and has another season like last year I should be pretty good.

WR: I probably overpayed for White but just like RB, if that doesn't work, I'm screwed, it will be matchup based who gets the #2 WR and FLEX starts

[SirFozzie]

This is how Week 1 matches up for me, I'm playing an autodrafter, so who knows if he'll make changes, but I feel pretty confident of an easy win.

QB: Aaron Rodgers (me) vs Sam Bradford
RB: Ahmad Bradshaw/Steven Ridley vs Marshawn Lynch/DeMarco Murray
WR: Roddy White/Steve Smith vs Antonio Brown/Robert Meacham
TE: Jimmy Graham vs Fred Davis
RB/WR/TE: Miles Austin vs Willis McGahee
DEF: Steelers vs Bills
K: Steven Gostkowski vs Dan Bailey

[claphamsa]

so, Payton is my QB but hes playing pitt... and my backup is Rivers vs oakland... do i dare sit my #1 QB in week 1?

[britrock88]

Go Peyton; there's no Ryan Clark to worry about.

[Lathum]

Ben Tate or Sproles, non PPR league.

[fpres]

Ben Tate or Sproles, non PPR league.

Tate will probably get a lot of touches. Foster didn't practice yesterday and is a game time decision.

[Comey]

I'm faced with Vick (Cleveland) or Cutler (Indy). Hmmm.

[AlexB]

Do I go with Arian Foster, put Ben Tate in, or cut my losses and go with DeAngelo Williams...

[Scoobz0202]

go with DeAngelo Williams...

This is never a good idea.

I'd just check before the game tomorrow if you are able. Foster or Tate depending on pre-game decision by Texans.

[illinifan999]

Non-PPR for my flex spot

Titus Young or Stevan Ridley?

[Scoobz0202]

Non-PPR for my flex spot

Titus Young or Stevan Ridley?

I'd probably go with Ridley. Either could get a TD, but I think the chances are better for Ridley than Young.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I've got a flex spot with the following players available:

RB Marshawn Lynch (Q) @ AZ
RB Stevan Ridley @ TEN
WR Vincent Jackson vs. CAR
WR Torrey Smith vs. CIN
WR Titus Young vs. StL
WR Michael Crabtree @ GB

I was sticking to Lynch throughout the week, but I just slotted Torrey Smith in. I think realistically it's Smith or VJax, only because of the injury status of Lynch. Sadly, I won't be around tomorrow to change things around pre-game, I have to make my decision tonight.

[Julio Riddols]

VJax or Smith, I agree.

[StLee]

My RB corp is decimated by injuries and suspensions, so it probably won't matter, but who is best as a flex option: Lance Moore, Justin Blackmon, or Kendall Wright? I can only play one.

The rest of the starters:
QB - E. Manning
RB - D. McCluster (Yikes! - R. Mathews is my only stud)
RB - R. Hillman (Double yikes!)
WR - A.J. Green
WR - M. Austin
TE - J. Graham
Flex - R. Gronkowski
K - M. Prater
DEF - Buffalo

My opponent's starters:
QB - M. Stafford
RB - L. McCoy
RB - A. Bradshaw
WR - D. Amendola
WR - J. Nelson
TE - B. Pettigrew
Flex1 - D. Brown
Flex2 - S. Greene
K - Janikowski
DEF - NY Giants

[sterlingice]

Questionable Lynch vs Arizona or handcuff Ronnie Brown splitting time @ Oakland. Also, I still have a flex spot open where I have Jermaine Gresham @ Ravens. I guess that flex spot doesn't need to be decided until tomorrow night.

SI

[rowech]

Do I go with Arian Foster, put Ben Tate in, or cut my losses and go with DeAngelo Williams...

Face same problem with Foster and Tate. Williams wouldn't be an option if I had him. Just have to try and make the right call.

[CleBrownsfan]

Do you guys start MJD this week if you had him on your roster?

[Lathum]

Do you guys start MJD this week if you had him on your roster?

depends on who your back up is

[CleBrownsfan]

depends on who your back up is

Most likely will be starting Tate and Foster (my other RB's are hurt too - Medenhall, McGahee, and B.Jacobs)

[AlexB]

Face same problem with Foster and Tate. Williams wouldn't be an option if I had him. Just have to try and make the right call.

My worry is that if Foster's not 100%, neither he nor Tate will be as effective overall as Williams, who with Stewart's injury, is the undisputed #1 RB this week against last years worst rush D.

I'm going to stick with Foster now he's confirmed to start, basically cause you've got to start him, but I'm going in with the high possibility that the law of sod will apply

[MrBug708]

Not a starting question, but Im looking to upgrade my WR corps

I was offered
Andre Johnson
Scrub Pat's RB

I would give up:
Forte
Eric Decker

As it stands, I would say no as Johnson can get injrued any week. My RB corp is pretty strong as I have Murray, Charles, and Forte. Would an offer of Charles for Johnson be slightly better?
My starting WR are Austin, Antonio Brown, and Eric Decker. I also have Cobb and Blackmon on the bench. (I also have Ronnie Brown at RB and James Jones at WR also on the bench, but they are whatever at this point). We play no flex, two RB, three WR

[korme]

Yahoo! has really outdone themselves with the new Recaps page. Feels like a real game. It's right next to the Final link next to the scores. Here's an example:


Run 513 beat A.M. Lumber 124 - 97 and put up the highest point total in the league this week. Each side hit their projections, but Run 513 put up 31.9% more points than projected (94.01) to earn the win. Peyton Manning led A.M. Lumber with 24 points while Matt Forte brought in 18. Run 513 starts the campaign with a 1-0 record, good enough for first place. A.M. Lumber opens at 0-1 and in ninth place.
Run 513 Smooth Moves
The 14 points scored by Jimmy Graham was the highest TE score in the league this week.
Frank Gore had the fourth-highest score among RBs in the league this week with 20 points.
The 20 points scored by Brandon Marshall was the fourth-highest score by a WR in the league this week.
6 of the 9 starters on Run 513 exceeded their projected points.
The 15 points scored by the Houston Texans Defense outpaced their 11.50-point scoring projection by 30.4%.A.M. Lumber Regret Tracker
A.M. Lumber left the 23 points scored by Stevan Ridley on the bench this week. He beat his projected point total by 217.7%, the eighth-highest percentage in the league.
At the DEF position, A.M. Lumber got outscored 15 - 6 by Run 513.
It was not a good week for A.M. Lumber at TE, where they were beaten 14 - 7.
A.M. Lumber had only 3 of their 9 starters underperform versus their projections, but they still lost.
With 4 points versus a projected 11.02, Chris Johnson scored only 36.3% of his projected point total.What If
Run 513 would have beaten nine other teams besides A.M. Lumber this week.
Run 513 would have had to score 52 fewer points to lose to all teams in the league this week.
Besides Run 513, A.M. Lumber would have been defeated by five other teams this week.
If A.M. Lumber had scored 25 fewer points, they would have lost to all teams in the league this week.Game Notes
The 27.00-point margin of victory by Run 513 was the largest in the league this week.
Run 513 covered the 9.35-point spread, winning by 27.00 points.
A.M. Lumber lost, but Peyton Manning played well, scoring 24 points to rank 10th in the league in scoring.
Matt Forte was a bright spot for A.M. Lumber in the loss with 18 points, the ninth-highest RB score in the league this week.
The 31 points put up by the RBs on Run 513 was the second-highest combined score by a team's RBs this week.
Although A.M. Lumber lost, Phil Dawson played well, bringing in 78.8% more points than was projected (12 points against a projected 6.71).
Although Run 513 won, they got little help from Garrett Hartley, who only put up 6 points of a projected 10.95.
Both teams scored more points than projected this week.

[sterlingice]

Those are pretty good. Thanks for pointing them out. I didn't even notice them in the league

SI

[MrBug708]

Not a starting question, but Im looking to upgrade my WR corps

I was offered
Andre Johnson
Scrub Pat's RB

I would give up:
Forte
Eric Decker

As it stands, I would say no as Johnson can get injrued any week. My RB corp is pretty strong as I have Murray, Charles, and Forte. Would an offer of Charles for Johnson be slightly better?
My starting WR are Austin, Antonio Brown, and Eric Decker. I also have Cobb and Blackmon on the bench. (I also have Ronnie Brown at RB and James Jones at WR also on the bench, but they are whatever at this point). We play no flex, two RB, three WR

Bump for any thoughts

[Scoobz0202]

PPR?

[MrBug708]

Yes. Someone else also puts Fitzgerald on the block

KR and PR yardage counts the same as each yard rushed/received as well

[stevew]

Kr yardage? Geez

[StLee]

What do you think about this trade?

I give up:
QB - Eli Manning
TE - Gronkowski
RB - Ryan Mathews

I get:
QB - Rodgers
TE - Hernandez
RB - Ridley

Is someone getting screwed here? Is this worth it? Should I blow off the trade proposal? I need a second opinion here!!!

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Bump for any thoughts
i would never trade a rb of any consequence for a wr. looks like you have a good team. there's no reason to make a move. the guy's trying to sell high on johnson before his annual nagging injury kicks in.

What do you think about this trade?

I give up:
QB - Eli Manning
TE - Gronkowski
RB - Ryan Mathews

I get:
QB - Rodgers
TE - Hernandez
RB - Ridley

Is someone getting screwed here? Is this worth it? Should I blow off the trade proposal? I need a second opinion here!!!
what's your rb situation? if ridley is gonna be your rb1 i wouldn't do it. if ridley was your rb2 (or 3) i would.

[StLee]

Yeah, Ridley would be RB1. My RB situation is terrible (my first auction and I greatly undervalued RBs). I was just a bit concerned about Mathews' ability to stay healthy.

I think I'll pass on the trade. Manning will see more good days than bad, and I would be angry if my only stud RB on my roster was traded away and then had a good year.

Thanks for the push!

[britrock88]

Don't underestimate your ability to see the future in controlling your fantasy team. After all, your lineup deadline is Sunday night, isn't it? :D

[stevew]

I'd take that trade in a second if a minimal amount of cash was on the line. Rodgers is going to be like, what, 5 ppg better than Manning? He scored 100 more points last year.

Gronk outscored Hernandez by 100 points last year, but I can't see that happening again. 17 TDs was pretty fluky.

I want no part of ryan matthews.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

or ridley misses a blocking assignment and the sweatshirt drops him to 3rd string for a month

having any pat as your rb1 is a leap of faith. rather have 10 productive weeks of matthews than a full season of whothefuckknows w/ridley

[stevew]

Got offered the worst trade. First of all, "4 for 3" moves are almost always a dick move.

I send Foster, Gates, R Moss
I get Sproules, Redman, Blackmon, Gresham.

Non PPR. Non dynasty.

[stevew]

or ridley misses a blocking assignment and the sweatshirt drops him to 3rd string for a month

having any pat as your rb1 is a leap of faith. rather have 10 productive weeks of matthews than a full season of whothefuckknows w/ridley

I thought Matthews changed hid last name to Matthews Gametime Decision. If he scratches at 4:25 it becomes impossible to find a replacement.

[sterlingice]

Got offered the worst trade. First of all, "4 for 3" moves are almost always a dick move.

I send Foster, Gates, R Moss
I get Sproules, Redman, Blackmon, Gresham.

Non PPR. Non dynasty.

Why take the big hit to TE and WR? Redman might already be done with his poor showing and Mendenhall possibly back soon and Moss for Blackmon?

SI

[stevew]

New guy fishing for someone gullible I suppose. Foster is way better than Sproules. Really good chance Gates is better than Gresham. If not, Gresham is replacement level anyways.

I asked if we could kick the guy out next year

[stevew]

I sent him back something horrible. Gistkowski, Amendola, Mike Williams and Goodson for MJD, Doug Martin, AJ Green.

[dubb93]

I was offered Larry Fitzgerald or Ray Rice. I sent him back my kicker for Fitz. Are all of Fitz's owners panicked and trying to move him at this point?

[Vince, Pt. II]

Two questions:

QB:
Eli Manning vs. Tampa Bay
Matt Schaub @ Jacksonville

I mean, Christian Ponder was able to go 50 yards in 10 seconds against the Jags...and the Buccs were able to put a lid on Cam Newton. I have Eli slotted in there now, but I'm just wondering...

D:
Seattle vs. Dallas
Minnesota @ Indianapolis
New York Giants vs. Tampa
Oakland @ Miami

I'd be dropping Seattle's D to pick up any of the other guys. I was beaten to the Cincinnati waiver wire pickup last weekend, so I'm stuck with this.

[britrock88]

Stick with Seattle for the long haul.

[stevew]

Oakland's D gets to play vs Tannehill

[dubb93]

Starting to get warmer. Now he's wanting to trade Megatron for my Ray Rice. I'm not considering it as is, but he has me intrigued now. He has Frank Gore and Ryan Matthews on his team.

Should I serious consider it if he would include one of those? I'm leaning towards just keeping Rice. I feel good about my WR's honestly. I have Welker, Garcon, Steve Smith of the Panthers, Nate Washington, and Stephen Hill.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i'd pull the trigger on a rice/garcon for megatron/matthews deal

[Qwikshot]

Was able to trade Sproles for Percy Harvin, I had no second receiver.

Now I gotta hope Mathews and Chris Johnson hold up.

[TLK]

Which side of Roethlisberger/Richardson for Arian Foster would you want to be on?

Team 1-
Qb- Rivers, Roethlisberger, Smith
Rb- Rice, Richardson, D. Martin, P. Thomas

Team 2-
Qb- Locker, Gabbart (no joke)
RB- Foster, Perterson, Matthews, K. Smith

[dubb93]

Keep in mind Foster and Rice were two of the top 3 picks in alot of leagues(if I had both of them I'm carving my name in the trophy, game over). They went 2 and 3 in my league. If I could get them both on my roster I do it in a heart beat. I don't trade a top 3 player for garbage that could have been had in rounds 4, 5, and 6.

[Scoobz0202]

I wouldn't want to be team 2.

[PurdueBrad]

In that deal, I would want to be the team getting Foster...easily.

[sooner333]

I don't want to be team 2 before or after that trade. I'd probably be better after it, but you'd have to think there's a better deal to be made.

[Scoobz0202]

I don't want to be team 2 before or after that trade. I'd probably be better after it, but you'd have to think there's a better deal to be made.

Yeah, you said it better than I did. Team 2 looks rough

[bhlloy]

Better upside play - stick with Jonathan Dwyer or put in a waiver claim (that I probably won't win anyway) on Daryl Richardson?

With Mendenhall coming back and Jackson possibly nursing a groin strain I'm leaning towards Richardson short term, but I can't shake the feeling that Dwyer might be the best back on the Steelers even including Mendenhall

[SirFozzie]

So I just need 20 yards from Roddy White tommorrow to win my Week 2 game ...

[stevew]

Man, lost the week high score 123.5 to 123.4 due to some garbage time Calvin Johnson catch. Oh well. At least I should win my game.

[sooner333]

In one league I need 8 points or less from Tony Gonzalez to win.

In another I have a three point lead with McGahee against D. Thomas.

[Apathetic Lurker]

I'm in a pretty intensive 16 team IDP Dynasty league. My team is getting old and I end up, for the most part between 5-10 th place. So I decided to retool, dump old and get 1st round picks for the only major offensive talent I had, Wallace Marshall and Mcfadden. Ended up with Fleener and RGIII out of that deal plus a bunch of picks in the 2nd and 4th. So now I have about 12 picks in 6 rounds next year.

Unfortunately my plan backfired and instead of my team taking a flat out dump they killed the opposition in both weeks. I'm not sure I can sustain it.
I have major issues with my rb's. The only two that can be considered reliable are Hillis and Sproles. So I was planning to use up my early 1st and possibly 2nd next year for a rookie back(s)during the draft. And no, this is a extremely competitive league...There is no decent waiver fodder backs available... ever...50 player teams make sure of that.
My best waiver pick in ten years was Colston....
So my question is this: Should I use up my 1st and get a good to middlin' back( Chris Johnson went for two 1sts to give you an idea of value. But that was during his holdout) or should I hope for the worst and roll with the team I have while shifting some older useful talent like Woodson out to a contender.

If I do trade for a back what is the consensus on Taiwan Jones?

Ideas would be helpful

[sterlingice]

Is it that your success is really sustainable this year or more of a mirage? What does the rest of your team look like compared to the competition. I can't think you have a lot at WR if you dumped Wallace and Marshall. And shortcutting your rebuilding will just lead to more 5th-10th round finishes, right?

SI

[Apathetic Lurker]

Im not sure if its a mirage. I can see about 7 wins without a problem..So i'm going to be possibly stuck in the middle again.
I could start crap to kill off my points but I don't like playing like that.

Hester and Burress are possible waiver wire casualties

This is The Sheep

Fitzpatrick, Ryan BUF QB
Griffin III, Robert WAS QB (R)
Mallett, Ryan NEP QB
Draughn, Shaun KCC RB
Hillis, Peyton KCC RB
Ivory, Christopher NOS RB
Jacobs, Brandon SFO RB
Sproles, Darren NOS RB
Adams, Kris IND WR
Bess, Davone MIA WR
Burress, Plaxico FA* WR
Gibson, Brandon STL WR
Hawkins, Andrew CIN WR
Hester, Devin CHI WR
Massaquoi, Mohamed CLE
Ogletree, Kevin DAL WR
Roberts, Andre ARI WR
Stokley, Brandon DEN WR
Bennett, Martellus NYG TE
Fleener, Coby IND TE (R)
Graham, Garrett HOU TE
Janikowski, Sebastian OAK PK (P)
Walsh, Blair MIN PK (R)
Zuerlein, Greg STL PK
Casey, Jurrell TEN DT
Dareus, Marcell BUF DT
Poe, Dontari KCC DT (R)
Anderson, Mark BUF DE
Avril, Cliff DET DE
Long, Chris STL DE
McPhee, Pernell BAL DE
Barnett, Nick BUF LB
Bowman, Navorro SFO LB
Brown, Zach TEN LB (R)
Dansby, Karlos MIA LB
Fort, L.J. CLE LB (R)
Miller, Von DEN LB
Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB
Williams, Jacquian NYG LB
Gilmore, Stephon BUF CB (R)
Byrd, Jairus BUF S
Moore, Rahim DEN S
Raymond, Mistral MIN S
Smith, Harrison MIN S (R)
Woodson, Charles GBP S

Injured Reserve
Nelson, David BUF WR (I)
Toon, Nick NOS WR (R) (I)

Taxi Squad
Adams, Joe CAR WR (R)
Wright, Jarius MIN WR (R)
Burfict, Vontaze CIN LB (R)
Wilson, Tavon NEP S (R)

[sooner333]

Worth it to go after Kellen Winslow with the Pats and cut Rudolph or Gresham (different teams--I'm not keeping multiple backup TE's)? For that matter, cut McCluster in a third league?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Some dude in my league offered me the following trade:

Aaron Rodgers + Randy Moss (him)

for

Matt Schuab + Demeco Ryans (LB) (me)

I couldn't hit "accept" fast enough!

[Apathetic Lurker]

I got offered Gronkowski, Fred Jackson and a 3rd for Martellus Bennett, Navarro Bowman and a 5th after my inquiry into Fred Jacksons availability. His first offer was...bad.

I know Fred is pretty much past his sell by date but I figure he has enough in the tank to be my emergency back when he comes back since I really only have Sproles and Hillis. I'd miss Bowman but I have luck finding LB's. Not missing Bennett too much as I just picked him up this summer in waiver transactions for a relatively cheap price. So i'd have Gronk and Fleener. I can get a decent lb next year with a 3rd or a development project at qb.

Points wise Gronk has about the same amount of points as Bowman and i'm not expecting 17 tds but closer to 8-10.

Any thoughts?

[Vince, Pt. II]

If CJ Spiller keeps playing like vintage Barry Sanders, Jackson may not see much PT at all when he gets back.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i still like jackson. alot. dunno what his role will be when he gets back but this is his contract year.

there's a good chance he'll be starting for another team next year so some keeper value there

[Apathetic Lurker]

so a worthy trade offer?

[britrock88]

Dangling RGIII (I've had him sitting behind Brady, but will start him if he doesn't move) just for the entertainment value. Sell high, right?

[chadritt]

Im doing the same, I have Matt Ryan as a starter, but its only a 10 team league so nobody is biting.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

so a worthy trade offer?
can't say. never played idp. as an emergency back you could do a lot worse than jackson. if he wants a decent contract next year he's gonna have to show something down the stretch.

[Apathetic Lurker]

can't say. never played idp. as an emergency back you could do a lot worse than jackson. if he wants a decent contract next year he's gonna have to show something down the stretch.

In our league defense, especially LB's are gold for points....Offensively, good to great TE's are gold too.Possibly platinum. Even scrub TE's have potential for 5-10 points on a consistant basis.

I know Gronk is a very steady point guy. I just don't know about Bennett. Can he keep it up in a Giants offense or is he going to flake out at one point....Right now he has 38.7 vs 43.5 points for the Gronk.

Basically im giving up Bowman for Gronk- right about the same points.
Bennett going for Jackson with a 3rd thrown in and I lose a 5th.

Damn this is difficult......

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yeah, i have bennett in the auction league. he's confounding. the giants other te (forget his name) comes off injury in a few weeks.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

dola: there's more serviceable te's than the are lb's, no? bowman's really good

[Apathetic Lurker]

Top 5 FA TE
Dante Rosario 36.8
Anthony McCoy 17.6
Matthew Mulligan 16.4
Jeff Cumberland 12.1
Tom Crabree 10.2

Top 5 FA LB
Garrett McIntyre 26
Alberty McClellan 20
Quentin Groves 19
Scott Bryan 19
Vincent Rey 16

After that there are 22 LB's with 5 or more points. Only 7 TE with 5 or more

So te's are scarcer. I traded for good stuff when I got rid of Pitta and Dickson as a package. I also play a double TE offense since I only have Sproles as a viable point guy. Plus 3 WR..And thats a crapshoot. So I do need 2 good -great TE. Right now its Fleener and Bennett. I'd have Fleener and Gronk. But Bowman is the issue. I have decent lb's even missing him but he is my best.

[DougW]

Trade Offer :

First, it's a keeper league. We are allowed to keep only 3 players, and a player can only be kept 3 years. His keeper cost is basically his drafted position, with some penalties.

Scoring. 1 for 10 yardage, 6 pts TD .. NO PPR
We start :
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 D
1 K

My keepers this year were V Cruz, T Romo, and D McFadden costing a 5th, 6th, and 7th rounder. Most of the league keeps players that cost a 5-7, and because of this, and the "only 3 years kept" rule, there is usually solid talent in the draft.

At this point, I'm planning to keep V Cruz, McFadden again next year. And with the 3rd keeper - Romo again, Maclin, a FA Pickup (like Cruz was for me last year) - or a breakout player currently on roster. Also, obviously the players received in this deal offer some keeper consideration.


Player Received Keeper Cost Keeper Years left
J Charles (KC) 5th 1
L Fitzgerald (ARZ) 2nd & 4th 3
R Mendenhall (PIT) 5th 3

Player Given Keeper Cost Keeper Years Left
R Matthews (SD) 1st & 3rd 3
C Benson (GB) 5th 3
R Brown (SD) 5th 3

Current Team Keeper Cost Keeper Years Left
T Romo (DAL) 5th 2

R Matthews (SD) 1st & 3rd 3
D McFadden (OAK) 5th 1
C Benson (GB) 5th 3
R Brown (SD) 5th 3

V Cruz (NYG) 5th 2
J Maclin (PHI) 3rd & 5th 3
B Lloyd (NE) 4th 3
Heyward-Bey (OAK) 5th 3
D Moore (OAK) 5th 3
D Avery (IND) 5th 3

J Finley (GB) 2nd & 4th 3

S Janikowski (OAK) 5th 3

NY Jets (Def) 5th 3
Baltimore (Def) 5th 3

[Apathetic Lurker]

I think Charles is on the downside, burning hot but flaming out fast after his injury. Mendenhall is still injured so you don't know what you will get when he comes back and I dont know whats up with Fitz especially with NE's pass defense. Age? Schemes? Qb issues?

Benson is a starter and so is Matthews. Basically if everyone is healthy you would get rich fast on this trade. Now? Iffy who gets the better end of the deal.

[sooner333]

Speaking of Jackson, somebody actually cut him in my ten-team league. I am pretty solid at backup RB with Benson and Morris, but would it be worth cutting Gresham just as a speculative pickup? I'm not really sure who I'd cut when Vernon Davis has a bye and I need a TE.

[DougW]

I got offered Gronkowski, Fred Jackson and a 3rd for Martellus Bennett, Navarro Bowman and a 5th after my inquiry into Fred Jacksons availability. His first offer was...bad.

I know Fred is pretty much past his sell by date but I figure he has enough in the tank to be my emergency back when he comes back since I really only have Sproles and Hillis. I'd miss Bowman but I have luck finding LB's. Not missing Bennett too much as I just picked him up this summer in waiver transactions for a relatively cheap price. So i'd have Gronk and Fleener. I can get a decent lb next year with a 3rd or a development project at qb.

Points wise Gronk has about the same amount of points as Bowman and i'm not expecting 17 tds but closer to 8-10.

Any thoughts?

I've never played in an IDP league, so I'm a bit out of my element. Because of this, I'll shy away from a direct go/no go answer :).

My thoughts on the other elements :
Gronk is a beast. Especially with Hernandez out a few weeks. He's on a passing team with a great QB, and IMO is the first option. Best TE in the league.

I don't think Bennett will end up with 16 TDs (has 2 after 2 games), but his yardage and catches may be close to what he's done thus far.

Spiller has taken Jacksons spot. Obviously a fast start this year, but even last years finish was nice. He averaged 78 yards rushing per game, with 3 TDs over the last 5. And, had a 9 catch 76 yard receiving game in there. And, I'd be wary of looking to Jackson as a keeper. Sure, he could end up somewhere and be a full time starter .. but, most likely - he'll end up somewhere and be part of a committee. Just the way the NFL is now.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Depends when SF's bye week is. Jackson i'd venture a guess is still out 4 or so weeks.

[Apathetic Lurker]

I've never played in an IDP league, so I'm a bit out of my element. Because of this, I'll shy away from a direct go/no go answer :).

My thoughts on the other elements :
Gronk is a beast. Especially with Hernandez out a few weeks. He's on a passing team with a great QB, and IMO is the first option. Best TE in the league.

I don't think Bennett will end up with 16 TDs (has 2 after 2 games), but his yardage and catches may be close to what he's done thus far.

Spiller has taken Jacksons spot. Obviously a fast start this year, but even last years finish was nice. He averaged 78 yards rushing per game, with 3 TDs over the last 5. And, had a 9 catch 76 yard receiving game in there. And, I'd be wary of looking to Jackson as a keeper. Sure, he could end up somewhere and be a full time starter .. but, most likely - he'll end up somewhere and be part of a committee. Just the way the NFL is now.

I don't expect Jackson to be a starter for anyone.He's going to end up a career backup at best for some team. ..He'd be my backup starter or emergency starter if Sproles goes down. I know bennett wont go 16 td's but I have to figure out if hes worth getting a 3rd rounder along with Jackson back. Gronk is a one for one trade for Bowman.

[DougW]

Speaking of Jackson, somebody actually cut him in my ten-team league. I am pretty solid at backup RB with Benson and Morris, but would it be worth cutting Gresham just as a speculative pickup? I'm not really sure who I'd cut when Vernon Davis has a bye and I need a TE.

I'd do it. Davis is a plug and play, I can't see any situation where you'd use Gresham over Davis because of matchups. And SFs bye is week 9. 9 Weeks is a long time to hold a spot for a 1 game sub player. I'd say pick him (or another project type guy) up, and see how things shake up until Davis' bye. Things will clear up for ya.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Speaking of Jackson, somebody actually cut him in my ten-team league. I am pretty solid at backup RB with Benson and Morris, but would it be worth cutting Gresham just as a speculative pickup? I'm not really sure who I'd cut when Vernon Davis has a bye and I need a TE.
definitely. in a ten team league you should have no trouble picking up a bye week te

[sooner333]

Thanks guys...hopefully I'll be able to pick him up on waivers.

[sooner333]

DOLA:

Start two (1 RB/1FLEX)

Sproles
Andre Brown (Thursday)
Garcon (questionable)
Britt

This is assuming Forte is out. He would be at RB and we'd be discussing the Flex only. But if I start Brown I'm committed to him after Thursday.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

sproles and britt. panthers run d is historically bad so worth keepin an eye on bradshaw's status. if he's def out i'd go with brown

[sooner333]

Okay, I got Jackson in the 10 teamer. I now have Rice, McFadden, Ridley, Benson, Morris, and Jackson at RB. Thinking of picking up Morris to play against CAR over Ridley against BAL. I'd cut Benson (other bench guys are Garçon, Amendola, Decker, and Rivers), but I hate to cut a starting RB for a one-time starter...even with my depth. Especially when Ridley probably isn't much worse of a play. Are my concerns justified?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i'd put everyone minus rice on the block and see what you can get. somebody's gotta be hurtin @rb

[sooner333]

Makes sense. I have Davis at TE, Vincent Jackson and Larry Fitzgerald at WR and RGIII at QB. I could improve at WR probably. I doubt I could get a trade through in time to pick up Brown though.

[DougW]

i'd put everyone minus rice on the block and see what you can get. somebody's gotta be hurtin @rb

Agree.

[stevew]

Dump R Moss, Goodson, Draughn, or D Richardson for a defense?

Receivers are Garcon, Moss, Amendola and Wallace.

Probably dumping Randy Moss, he isn't getting much run it seems.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yep

[illinifan999]

Ridley vs. Baltimore
Hillis vs. New Orleans

Feel like Ridley should be the no brainer since Hillis hasn't been so hot, but I wonder if the matchup possibly favors Hillis enough to start him?

[stevew]

monitor Charles's injury

[sterlingice]

Donald Brown vs Jaguars
Andre Brown vs Panthers

SI

[Julio Riddols]

Ridley vs. Baltimore
Hillis vs. New Orleans

Feel like Ridley should be the no brainer since Hillis hasn't been so hot, but I wonder if the matchup possibly favors Hillis enough to start him?

Unless its PPR, I wouldn't touch Hillis. Even with PPR, its doubtful they run much since the Saints are liable to put up 30 even on a bad day, and I would expect McCluster to get a lot of the checkdown looks. Baltimore hasn't been the best at stopping the run so far this year, so I'd go with Ridley.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Might want to hold on to Moss. Not all that likely, but I could see him going off against his former team.

[B & B]

Moss had only 1 catch against a horrible Lions secondary.


Thats enough.

[Radii]

Stafford @Tennessee
Alex Smith @Minnesota

?

Stafford has been my default starter but he's off to a slow start this year.

[sooner333]

I think you have to start Stafford.

[Sun Tzu]

I picked up Amendola and Lafell this week off of waivers. Wewt.

[stevew]

Your league members must be dumb. 10 team?

[stevew]

Bradford seemingly targeted Amendola on every pass last week.

[Sun Tzu]

Yep, 10 team. It's a paid league too (NFL.com hosted). I also picked up one of the Steelers HB's. I forget which, but I imagine he'll put up bigger numbers than Adrian Peterson this week (who I'm sitting).

[Glengoyne]

I've got a problem at QB this week
Matt Ryan @ San Diego
Andy Dalton @ Washington
Ryan Fitzpatrick @ Cleveland

I'm really considering Dalton

[General Mike]

I don't know who of my guys to start anywhere.

RB - Turner, Matthews, Michael Bush, Greene (pick 2)
WR - Fitzgerald, Denarious Moore, Crabtree, Maclin (pick 2)
plus one flex

Leaning towards Turner, Matthews, Fitzgerald, Moore and Bush

[sterlingice]

Donald Brown vs Jaguars
Andre Brown vs Panthers

SI

With 20 points already and a quarter to go for Andre, Donald was almost certainly not the correct answer

SI

[INDalltheway]

Fuck Andre Brown

[INDalltheway]

Can you tell who I'm playing against this week? :D

[Julio Riddols]

I've got a problem at QB this week
Matt Ryan @ San Diego
Andy Dalton @ Washington
Ryan Fitzpatrick @ Cleveland

I'm really considering Dalton

Pretty sure Ryan has the weaponry to overpower the San Diego D. Atlanta's offense is one of the hottest and most talented in the league.

Dalton might have to throw it a bunch, but that may not necessarily be a good thing.

[stevew]

welp...down by 28. Brown scored 26 in our scoring, and my gutcheck call of the panthers d(so i could invest in the game) turned out to be worth -2. Defenses thus far have me at -3, -2, -2 through the first 3 weeks. I'm pretty sure we use a modified defensive scoring though.

[Glengoyne]

...

Dalton might have to throw it a bunch, but that may not necessarily be a good thing.

There is that.

Sometimes I just want to swing for the fence.

[albionmoonlight]

Need to start two of:

Darren Sproles
Chris Johnson
Pierre Thomas
Dexter McCluster
Daryl Richardson (St. Louis Backup).

Pretty sure that I won't be starting Richardson (unless Jackson gets a setback in practice).

So, it is between Sproles, Johnson, Thomas, and McCluster for two spots.

Standard scoring, no PPR.

[sooner333]

Chris Johnson and Pierre Thomas. But Thomas and Sproles were a toss-up.

[stevew]

I guess Garcon is probably out again, so this is a bit easier.

Flex-Gates or Tate. Can also play D Richardson or Draughn, dunno about Steven Jackson.

Leaning Gates if he's 100% ready to go.

[rowech]

It won't matter that much but I need another RB to start with Foster today. Today's crap choices are...

Tate, Jac. Rogers, Dwyer

[B & B]

those choices are terrible rowech.

id go quizz but there have to be better options in FA.

(Yes, I know tate blew up as RB2 last week hes gonna have 30 yards today, and the texans will lose to the broncos)

[rowech]

those choices are terrible rowech.

id go quizz but there have to be better options in FA.

(Yes, I know tate blew up as RB2 last week hes gonna have 30 yards today, and the texans will lose to the broncos)

There aren't. 12 team league with 4 RBs per team, and the possibility of a 5th. Bradshaw got hurt, I was low in the waiver wire, couldn't get a replacement so got stuck with this slop.

I think if I start Tate, I'm hoping he scores a TD because I don't think he gets a ton of yards. If I start Dwyer, I'm guessing something like a 30-40 yard game. Rogers I would go with if I knew Turner was going to be disciplined for even a full quarter.

[britrock88]

Banged-up Colston (who is playing) or Brandon Gibson of the Rams?

[Julio Riddols]

It won't matter that much but I need another RB to start with Foster today. Today's crap choices are...

Tate, Jac. Rogers, Dwyer

I'd probably go with Dwyer, although Tate makes a nice active handcuff to ensure you get all the Texans rush yards and rush TDs.

[Julio Riddols]

Banged-up Colston (who is playing) or Brandon Gibson of the Rams?

I'd say Colston has a 75% chance of scoring more.

[B & B]

You are in a league that starts 4 RBs and a flex?


(facepalm)


That said, amazing that you got Foster and Bradshaw who were Top 15 ranked preseason backs. Plus, your handcuff in Tate.


Id still go Quizz and have a hunch he catches 3 balls, gets a handful of rushes and scores.

[stevew]

There aren't. 12 team league with 4 RBs per team, and the possibility of a 5th. Bradshaw got hurt, I was low in the waiver wire, couldn't get a replacement so got stuck with this slop.

I think if I start Tate, I'm hoping he scores a TD because I don't think he gets a ton of yards. If I start Dwyer, I'm guessing something like a 30-40 yard game. Rogers I would go with if I knew Turner was going to be disciplined for even a full quarter.

This is basically why FF has started to suck really bad for me. You get to the point where everyone is so knowledgeable now and there are no fish left basically. I guess the only way to exploit any kind of inefficiency is to collect players that are decent, but not glamorous. Guys like Michael Turner. Or to try to trade rape people.

[rowech]

You are in a league that starts 4 RBs and a flex?


(facepalm)


That said, amazing that you got Foster and Bradshaw who were Top 15 ranked preseason backs. Plus, your handcuff in Tate.


Id still go Quizz and have a hunch he catches 3 balls, gets a handful of rushes and scores.

No...I meant all rosters have 4 RBs, half have 5. That's every team's 2nd running back and into the third stringers. One injury, guys don't trade, and you're toast.

I offered a couple of trades to avoid this but no takers.

[britrock88]

Okay, settled on Colston at WR. Now I'm wondering whether to go with Kevin Smith or Brandon Gibson at FLEX.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

This is basically why FF has started to suck really bad for me. You get to the point where everyone is so knowledgeable now and there are no fish left basically. I guess the only way to exploit any kind of inefficiency is to collect players that are decent, but not glamorous. Guys like Michael Turner. Or to try to trade rape people.
i like strong competition so i'm glad there's no village idiots anymore. what drives me insane is the guy that only sets his lineup every couple of weeks, has flacco at qb and a k and a te that aren't even playing and still scores 150 points

no skill. no strategy. pure luck

[stevew]

Gibson seems unlikely to get much more than 6 targets. He can do it on that, but would need a big play. Though I suppose that is all it takes.

Amendola has more targets than the next 4 rams players combined.

[stevew]

i like strong competition so i'm glad there's no village idiots anymore. what drives me insane is the guy that only sets his lineup every couple of weeks, has flacco at qb and a k and a te that aren't even playing and still scores 150 points

no skill. no strategy. pure luck

Yeah...that's what it has become. Some moron exits the draft with CJ Spiller as his #2 back and wins by virtue of sheer dumb luck.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i can accept you outfoxing me through deft maneuvering. goodonya. i can't accept you having a shit draft and you're team of waiver wire scrubs knocking me out of the playoffs

[sooner333]

Up by 5 points with GB defense. They have nobody. Do I sacrifice tiebreaker points for the guaranteed win by benching the defense?

[sooner333]

Never mind....looks like worst I can do is -4 on defense.

[B & B]

It won't matter that much but I need another RB to start with Foster today. Today's crap choices are...

Tate, Jac. Rogers, Dwyer

I nailed it, and doubt many ppl would have played it that way.


Tate had 28 yards ( I said 30 yds) no catches
Dwyer had no yards rushing and a 1 yard catch

My recommendation was Quizz who had 30+ yards rushing and
5 rec including a TD! (I called 3+ receptions and a TD, he had NO CATCHES the previous MNF game)

Im sure you didnt listen and played it safe with Tate, after all he scored 20 pts last week.

The reason Im bumping this is to let everyone know, Im now the only winless team in my ONLY FF league, at 0-3.

[stevew]

If you have Ben Roethlisburger and win by less than 4 points, don't sleep easy until the official scoring decision comes out on one of his TD passes to Antonio Brown. It will probably remain a TD, but it's possible it could be overturned.

[rowech]

I nailed it, and doubt many ppl would have played it that way.


Tate had 28 yards ( I said 30 yds) no catches
Dwyer had no yards rushing and a 1 yard catch

My recommendation was Quizz who had 30+ yards rushing and
5 rec including a TD! (I called 3+ receptions and a TD, he had NO CATCHES the previous MNF game)

Im sure you didnt listen and played it safe with Tate, after all he scored 20 pts last week.

The reason Im bumping this is to let everyone know, Im now the only winless team in my ONLY FF league, at 0-3.

You're right on all counts. I went with Tate figuring he would get me at least five. Rogers would have got me 12. I lead by 12 with opponent having Lynch left to play. Would have felt comfortable up by 24. Not so much by 12.

[MikeVic]

< rant>

I felt getting burned out on fantasy football before the season started (and it's why I left the FOFC league, as well as another one)... and I think I'm already feeling it in week3 hah.

I think the problem is that a fantasy win doesn't get me excited or happy, but a fantasy bullshit loss gets me more upset. Lost this week 82.6-82, and will lose another close game in a league which I benched Torrey Smith at the 11th hour after hearing about his brother's death and how he's going to be with family, but not ruled out for the game. It was the Sunday night game, so I figured the safe option would be to swap him out. Clearly wrong. :p So I was right in drafting him, but don't reap the rewards in his first big game.

I think right now, I'd rather keep the fantasy money and bet on a game a week. Anyone else have similar opinions on fantasy sports?
< /rant>

[Honolulu_Blue]

I am super happy I sat Jamal Charles. That was a good call this week.

Though, with Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, Mikael Leshoure, Jamal Charles and the recently acquired Aaron Rodgers (ridiculous trade offer), I think I am in a good spot.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I think right now, I'd rather keep the fantasy money and bet on a game a week. Anyone else have similar opinions on fantasy sports?

i went the opposite way. i parlayed a gambling addiction into a ff addiction. the thing about fantasy is it gives you the illusion of control.

whether it's old age or the constant drumbeat of losing i eventually came to my senses. i play in one free league now just to maintain a passing interest in football season.

my advice is play a free league and keep your money. if you have to bet just play $5 parlays. one win will cover your losses for the year. that way when a bill comes due and you think of all your gambling losses (or ff dues) you don't contemplate driving into a tree

[Julio Riddols]

I love fantasy football, man. I don't mind losing early in the season because teams are just figuring things out. Some players from out of nowhere are going to have big games. Late in the year though, if I don't put together a streak, I didn't have a good enough team anyway. No big deal.

[stevew]

I sort of agree with you Mike. At the end of the season you'll end up making 100s of small educated(hopefully) decisions and the payoff is like, what, less than minimum wage?

[stevew]

Also, fuck whomever It was that decided that Monday night games should count in fantasy. I gotta pay attention to the game tonight to see if I win. Treat that like a bye for the involved players.

[INDalltheway]

< rant>

I felt getting burned out on fantasy football before the season started (and it's why I left the FOFC league, as well as another one)... and I think I'm already feeling it in week3 hah.

I think the problem is that a fantasy win doesn't get me excited or happy, but a fantasy bullshit loss gets me more upset. Lost this week 82.6-82, and will lose another close game in a league which I benched Torrey Smith at the 11th hour after hearing about his brother's death and how he's going to be with family, but not ruled out for the game. It was the Sunday night game, so I figured the safe option would be to swap him out. Clearly wrong. :p So I was right in drafting him, but don't reap the rewards in his first big game.

I think right now, I'd rather keep the fantasy money and bet on a game a week. Anyone else have similar opinions on fantasy sports?
< /rant>

Yes. My thoughts exactly. All but 1 player of mine has gone under their projected points. First 3 weeks my totals have been way under my projected. On paper I have a top 3 team if not the best team.

[INDalltheway]

Also, fuck whomever It was that decided that Monday night games should count in fantasy. I gotta pay attention to the game tonight to see if I win. Treat that like a bye for the involved players.
That's a terrible idea. Best teams play more Monday Night games, therefore the best players "wouldn't be playing" more games than others.

[MikeVic]

Would you trade Steven Jackson for Frank Gore? Seems like a pretty boring, even trade...

[sooner333]

Yeah, if only because the 49ers are more likely to score and more likely to be ahead and run.

[stevew]

That's a terrible idea. Best teams play more Monday Night games, therefore the best players "wouldn't be playing" more games than others.

The monday night game is now a shit game and has been one for several years. Sunday night is the new monday night. At the very very most you get on MNF 2 times.

[MikeVic]

Anyone else getting messed up disappearing players in ESPN leagues? I commish a league where Vincent Jackson just disappeared and had to call ESPN's fantasy line. And now in another league, Steven Ridley disappeared from my roster. For fuck's sake what else will these replacement refs do! ;)

[spleen1015]

Anyone else getting messed up disappearing players in ESPN leagues? I commish a league where Vincent Jackson just disappeared and had to call ESPN's fantasy line. And now in another league, Steven Ridley disappeared from my roster. For fuck's sake what else will these replacement refs do! ;)

Yep. Had Stafford disappear.

[stevew]

Lost by .1 desperately need a Seattle sack to be overturned(either the -1 yard one or the facemasking one) or for one of the Griffin options to change into a pass to Brandon Banks(I think there was a 5 or so yard one that was close)

[Glengoyne]

Also, fuck whomever It was that decided that Monday night games should count in fantasy. I gotta pay attention to the game tonight to see if I win. Treat that like a bye for the involved players.

Oh if only that were the case. I've been playing Fantasy Football for 25 years in a league with as many as 32 teams...multiple drafts with the league broken up into conferences. It is a running joke in my league that I can't win if it comes down to Monday night. I won't start anyone on Monday night if I can. They just tank. If anyone starts someone against me on Monday Night, there is a chance that they are in for a huge comeback.

It has gotten better for me over the past eight or ten years. One year I even declared the curse to be broken, only to suffer heart breaking losses on Monday night the ensuing three weeks.

So my only player going last night was an IDP, Charles Woodson, who scored 4 points.

[spleen1015]

Also, fuck whomever It was that decided that Monday night games should count in fantasy. I gotta pay attention to the game tonight to see if I win. Treat that like a bye for the involved players.

Your leagues should just make a rule that you automatically win.

[stevew]

Your leagues should just make a rule that you automatically win.

Yeah. I clearly want that.

[britrock88]

1 RB, 2 WR, and FLEX left to play in a standard/no-PPR league (had Richardson tonight):

RB: Mathews, Choice, Williams (ARZ)
WR: Bowe (Q), Hawkins, Colston, Maclin, Kerley

Some injury situations to watch with Choice (Spiller/Jackson), Bowe, and Maclin, obv. Curious if this Colston slump is a long-term thing. Also wondering how Norv will respond to Mathews fumbling in the red zone.

[britrock88]

dola:
any thoughts on how to handle RG3 and Brady (longer term)?

[Lathum]

regretting sitting Boldin right now

[Qwikshot]

Me trading Chris Johnson/Antoinio Gates
Me getting Benjarvus/Reggie Wayne

What say you all?

QBs (1) Cam and RG3
RB (2) CJ, Ryan Mathews, Pierre Thomas, Peyton Hillis, Dave Wilson
WR (2) Percy Harvis, Julio Jones, Denarius Moore, Jerome Simpson, Randal Cobb
TE (1) Gates, Kyle Rudolph
Flex (RB/WR)(1) - see above, right now it's Pierre
K - Tynes
Def - Philly

[sooner333]

I would probably do that trade.

[stevew]

in a second.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

brit: just go with the studs. getting clever almost never works out

i'd shop rg3. pats might have the easiest sched in football down the stretch

[TLK]

non-ppr... but bonus points at 20 rushes and 8 receptions....

Doug Martin & Danny Amendola for Ryan Williams & Percy Harvin

Any thoughts?

[cmp]

Last second advice? Alfred Morris or Fred Jackson?

[MrBug708]

Should have started Fitzpatrick....hopefully Romo can do something

[sooner333]

Non-PPR league:

Start one of: Garcon, Amendola, Decker.

I could start two if I benched Alfred Morris or Stevan Ridley. But I'm planning to start both. I've got McFadden and Dez Bryant on bye.

[B & B]

Amendola for most targets and catches, but if that dont matter to you.


Decker has the best chance to score a TD.

[sooner333]

Also, in another league (PPR), I am in a terrible spot at RB. Fred Jackson vs. SF, Jackie Battle, or Mark Ingram (or I guess Peyton Hillis)

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

ppr puts fjax over. battle's probably 30 rush and a td. fjax is 30 rush, 30 rec and 4-5 catches

[cmp]

My current team:

QB: Brees, Dalton
RB: Turner, Morris, F. Jackson, Ingram, A. Brown
WR: AJ Green, A Johnson, Bowe, Austin, Crabtree, Hixon, Kendall Wright
TE: Witten, Rudolph

My league starts QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, FLEX, TE


I was just offered Darren Sproles for Miles Austin. Do I take it?

[sterlingice]

Maybe I'm crazy but I'd try to package Austin for a little more, particularly since he's a starter (flex, presumably)

SI

[spleen1015]

I don't take it. Sproles is in a situation where you don't know which RB on that team is going to get consistent touches. I would stay away from NO RBs and you already have one of the other ones.

[britrock88]

The weekly question: Brady or RG3?

[stevew]

Andre Roberts, Gates or Amendola. Pick 2

[stevew]

Obviously time sensitive.

[stevew]

Hmm. I think I have to hold Gates back in case Gronk can't go.

[sooner333]

1 PPR, 1/15yds REC, 1/10yds RUSH

For my FLEX I need one of: Jeremy Kerley, LaRod Stephens-Howling, or Peyton Hillis (if healthy) (or I guess Jackie Battle, who is likely done with running a lot)

[britrock88]

Kerley, I guess... but scour the waiver wire?

[stevew]

Big Ben is picking up a 13 yard TD pass(and Mendenhall a catch). If you were in a close game, this could be a problem for you.

[INDalltheway]

1 PPR, 1/15yds REC, 1/10yds RUSH

For my FLEX I need one of: Jeremy Kerley, LaRod Stephens-Howling, or Peyton Hillis (if healthy) (or I guess Jackie Battle, who is likely done with running a lot)

Are return yards a factor at all?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

format favors a pass catching rb, which lsh is and has a good matchup but... sight unseen. yeesh, probably have to go with kerley

[sooner333]

No return yards. I also forgot I have Kenny Britt. Probably just start him?

When Amendola went down, it really hurt my already weak team. Guys on the waiver wire include TY Hilton, Josh Morgan, Andre Roberts, Titus Young, Manningham, Hankerson, Stokley, Brandon Gibson, Mark Ingram (who I cut). It's weak pickings.

My opening weak lineup was bad too. Very disappointed with my draft:

Stafford
Harvin
Lloyd
Fred Jackson
Hillis
Graham
Amendola

I'm now starting McGahee instead of Hillis. I've also cut everyone else from the bench except Kenny Britt

[INDalltheway]

James Starks looks like he may get the start at RB for Green Bay. He or Alex Green will probably be splitting carries, but those two are ones to keep an eye on.

[chadritt]

I wasnt able to trade RGIII so I picked up James Starks, still have RGIII though, so I hope youre right.

[sooner333]

Opposite problem in my 10 team, no PPR league...

Start 3 of: Rice, McFadden, Morris, Ridley. Leaning leaving out Ridley.

[sterlingice]

Rice and DMC are no-brainers. Both Morris and Ridley are up against tough defenses. I'd take Morris because he seems more consistent right now

SI

[mckerney]

Anyone screwed over or helped by the recalc?

[Alan T]

What recalc?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

What recalc?

Big Ben is picking up a 13 yard TD pass(and Mendenhall a catch). If you were in a close game, this could be a problem for you.

official stat corrections aren't made till wed.

thurs games suck. waiver claims, trades, people forget, etc. if fantasy drives growth the nfl took a big steamy one on every ff league.

[stevew]

ESPN fantasy focus podcast estimated something like 15000 games changed cause of the +4 for Ben and -1 for Mendy.

[MrBug708]

QB's
Fitzpatrick vs Arizona
Romo vs Baltimore
Kolb vs Buffalo
Or most any scrub QB matchup

RB's (2 needed)
Morris vs Minn
Charles vs TB
Murray vs Baltimore

[Julio Riddols]

Romo, Morris, Charles. I wouldn't feel great about any of those match ups though. They're all just about toss ups in my opinion.

[britrock88]

2 of Bowe, Kerley, Hawkins, or Roberts (ARZ) at WR. (no PPR)

[jbergey22]

Kind of like Kolb today but would probably still go Romo. At backs I think Charles is a no brainer and Id probably lean Murray. Vikings defense has been surprisingly good this year and the Ravens arent exactly great against the run like they once were.

[MrBug708]

Bad day for the Chiefs

[korme]

Should my 3rd WR be Brandon Gibson of STL (with Amendola out) vs. GB, or Devery Henderson of NO (with Moore out) against TB?

TB actually has a crappier defense against WR this year, but Henderson is just so damn inconsistent... his scoring this season has been like 1-1-2-1-21. On the other hand, he's now in the #2 spot, a big target and TB's #1 corner Aqib Talib is out.

As for the Brandon Gibson thing, he probably won't get me 15, but he could easily get me a solid 6-9. Also, I have to start Sam Bradford this week due to byes so maybe this could be a double whammy factor.

[bhlloy]

Bye week QB dilemma - Alex Smith vs a stingy Seahawks defense, or pick up Carson Palmer vs Jax for the week?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

korme- gibson
bhlloy- palmer

[Carman Bulldog]

Looking for some thoughts on a trade...

My team (PPR League, start 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1 Flex)

QB - A. Rodgers, R. Griffin
RB - D. Sproles, T. Richardson, D. Martin
WR - B. Marshall, P. Harvin, P. Garcon, K. Wright, R. Cobb
TE - J. Graham, K. Rudolph

I've been offered CJ Spiller for RGIII. I've got no use for RGIII, particularly as he shares a bye with Rodgers.

The person making the offer also has A. Peterson, R. Mathews, W. McGahee and S. Greene. P. Rivers and R. Fitzpatrick are his QB's, so he's looking to deal.

Do I take the offer of Spiller? I want Peterson, but I don't think he will move him. Does anyone think that Mathews or McGahee are better options than Spiller?

Or do I look to move him elsewhere and upgrade depth at WR in case something were to happen to Marshall or Harvin. I also might be able to do something like package up a Doug Martin with RGIII for a Ray Rice.

Thoughts?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

hmm. i'd go espionage. say you've got another deal cooking and it's ap or nothing. if he balks wait a day or 2 and offer rg3 for spiller and mcgahee.

you hold the cards. he needs a qb more than you need a rb.

[StLee]

Who would you start in this situation?

3 spots - WR1, WR2, RB/WR Flex
Options: Andre Johnson (against Baltimore, but I HAVE to start him, right?)
Vincent Jackson (playing against NO's secondary)
Dez Bryant (playing against Carolina's secondary)
Devery Henderson (Lance Moore is out and playing against TB's secondary)
Stevan Ridley (against Jets)
Fred Jackson (against Tenn)

[Radii]

Christian Ponder vs Arizona
Alex Smith vs Seattle
Matt Stafford @ Chicago

pick one

[stevew]

Ok, I'm having some significant issues, especially since Amendola got hurt and Garcon has a pussy toe.

Anyways, my roster
QB-RG3, Luck
RB AP, Foster, Tate, William Powell, Kendall Hunter
WR- Mike Wallace, and this pile of shit.......Andre Roberts, Donnie Avery, Chris Givens, Garcon
TE-Gates, Gronk


What would you try to do for a WR?
-Piece out Foster, hope he breaks(and keep Tate)?
-Piece out RG3, Luck is a pretty good fantasy QB
-Trade AP?
-Trade Gronk?

I suppose if Garcon comes back, he's going to be good for that 8-12 points per week. Maybe i can make due.

I got offered Andre Johnson and Turner for Foster, but I really don't like either of those guys much.

I was looking at some things I might be able to do-
Luck for Mike Williams(who I cut earlier this year, grrr)
Luck for Maclin
RG3 for Fitzgerald or Brandon Marshall
RG3 for Bowe or (maybe) Harvin

[TLK]

Anyways, my roster
QB-RG3, Luck

RG3 for (maybe) Harvin

That's what I would try. Luck has had his bye week, so ride him the rest of the year in confidence.

[sooner333]

No PPR

Team 1: RB: Murray, Hunter, Stewart WR: White, Ogletree, Hawkins, Steve Smith (CAR), Marshall

Team 2: RB: Rice, McFadden, Morris, Ridley, F. Jackson, WR: Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, Decker, Garcon, Amendola, Gibson

What do you think of a White for Ridley or Morris? What about Marshall for Ridley or Morris? Does Team 2 even need that trade with Amendola coming back eventually?

[BrianD]

Same problem every week, but for this week:
QB - RG3 against NYG or Brees against TB?

[sooner333]

I think you pretty much have to pick one or the other and trade the second. If you get 4 points for passing TDs, it might be worth going with RG3.

[korme]

Christian Ponder vs Arizona
Alex Smith vs Seattle
Matt Stafford @ Chicago

pick one

Stafford. Best QB going against the worst of 3 very good Ds

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i actually might lean ponder. coming off a bad loss, playing at home and az's d is helter skelter. stafford's been shaky and chicago on the road. tough

stevew-move luck. even if you only get 80 cents on the dollar your team is so strong you don't need to shoot the moon at wr2

[stevew]

I'm the best 2-4 team on the planet :(

[Radii]

i actually might lean ponder. coming off a bad loss, playing at home and az's d is helter skelter. stafford's been shaky and chicago on the road. tough

In my initial lineup submission I picked Ponder pretty much for these reasons. I've only picked the "right" one once so far this year, so this must mean Detroit and San Fran are in for great weeks!

[sooner333]

No PPR

Team 1: RB: Murray, Hunter, Stewart WR: White, Ogletree, Hawkins, Steve Smith (CAR), Marshall

Team 2: RB: Rice, McFadden, Morris, Ridley, F. Jackson, WR: Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, Decker, Garcon, Amendola, Gibson

What do you think of a White for Ridley or Morris? What about Marshall for Ridley or Morris? Does Team 2 even need that trade with Amendola coming back eventually?

I was Team 2 and did make the trade Ridley for White. I realized Ridley was going to be my fourth back most weeks (while the Pats figure out their running backs) and getting a third WR gave me flexibility to start three if I got an injury at RB.

[sterlingice]

Good deal, imo

SI

[albionmoonlight]

Brandon Lloyd @ NYJ
Lance Moore @ Tampa
Jeremy Kerely @ NE
Nate Burlson @ Chi

(This is for my flex spot. I have Brandon Marshall and Percy Harvin for WR1/WR2. And my RBs are garbage, so my third best RB is worse than any of these guys).

[MrBug708]

Picking Romo over Fitzpatrick and Freeman was bad.

Almost as bad as leaving Cobb on the bench

[illinifan999]

For my flex spot:

Kyle Rudolph vs. TB
Daryl Richardson vs. NE
Stephen Hill vs. Mia
Brandon Gibson vs. NE

[chadritt]

Matt Ryan vs Phi or RG3 vs Pit?

[stevew]

I think RG3 is going to shred pittsburgh's defense with his legs.

[stevew]

For RB2 this week-
Hunter, Gerhardt, or pick up like Daniel Thomas, Draughn, Hillman, or Jacquizz Rodgers. Hunter will at least get some work I'd think, right?

[sooner333]

Ugh...I assume I should just hope Jimmy Graham starts and if not drop somebody for a backup. But I have Kyle Rudolph tonight as my backup so I'm just making sure it's not wise to start him in the even that Graham is hurt.

[stevew]

Can you play a TE in flex?

[stevew]

I decided that I'm out on Garcon. A plantar plate tear sounds like something that could potentially end his season. I would be surprised if he could play again this year, but he's easily going to miss 3 more weeks or more.

[sooner333]

Yes, I can start a TE at Flex. My FLEX choices would be:

Alex Green, Sproles (but one would start at RB), Garcon (same concerns as you), Britt, Hunter, Jacquizz, William Powell.

Basically, it's whether you'd start Graham over Sproles, Green, or Britt.

The scoring in my league is very strange, and not even worthwhile to mention in full. You get equal points for a catch and a rushing attempt (.3) You also get return yards (.05/yard).

[stevew]

Without knowing the ins and outs of the scoring, I'd probably play Rudolph at TE this week and then use Graham at flex if he's 100% playing.

Or alternatively drop Rudolph right before the game and gamble you can waiver claim him next week. Use Rudolph's roster spot to pick up a TE if Graham won't play. Maybe you could pick up Dressen, Delany Walker, Housler or Tamme if any of those guys are available.

[scoman]

Having a real hard time deciding who to start at QB this week in my money league,we start 2 QB. Weeden,Freeman,Hasselbach,Palmer, any insight would be appreciated.

[cmp]

I was just offered Steven Jackson and Michael Crabtree for Miles Austin and Kyle Rudolph. Do I take it?

My league starts QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, WR, TE

QB: Brees
RB: Michael Turner, Fred Jackson, Alfred Morris, Alex Green, Daryl Richardson, Mark Ingram, William Powell
WR: Andre Johnson, AJ Green, Dwayne Bowe, Miles Austin, Kendall Wright, Titus Young
TE: Witten, Rudolph

[Apathetic Lurker]

Ok..Trade question

My season is pretty much shot at 3-3 and i'm thinking long range.

I have Karlos Dansby(31). I've been offered Kavell Conner(25) and Brian Orapko(26) for him......Dansby averages in the 230 pts per season range but hes slowly getting up in age. Orapko is still young but injured . He averages about 160 a season. Conner young and a starter but only until Angerer comes back. Hes good for about 100_+ pts per season. Worth the trade? Remember, season is pretty much shot..I'm hoping to lose but I refuse to just trot out complete backups or waiver fodder...Have a little pride left

[MrBug708]

So I need a three WR out of four. All four have solid matchups
Antonio Brown vs WAS
Randall Cobb vs JAC
Eric Decker vs NO
Miles Austin vs Giants

[jbergey22]

Matt Ryan vs Phi or RG3 vs Pit?

RG3

Steelers defense has been awful. Eagles pass def is stingy.

[jbergey22]

So I need a three WR out of four. All four have solid matchups
Antonio Brown vs WAS
Randall Cobb vs JAC
Eric Decker vs NO
Miles Austin vs Giants

Tough call.

With Jennings and Nelson likely out Cobb looks like a must play, Decker has a great matchup so it leaves a choice between Brown and Austin IMO. Id probably leave Brown on the pine and go with the big game potential of Austin esp with the Giants/Cowboys games a lot of times ending up in shootouts.

Cant really go wrong with any of them though.

[Sublime 2]

Need one WR - non PPR

Britt vs. Indianapolis
A. Roberts vs. SF
L. Moore vs. Denver

[cmp]

Was just offered Brandon Marshall and Matt Forte for AJ Green. I should take this deal right? Here is my team. We start QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, WR

This is an auction keeper league. AJ Green will cost $14 next year, Forte $32, Marshall $24

QB: Brees
RB: Michael Turner, Alfred Morris, Fred Jackson, Alex Green, Daryl Richardson, Mark Ingram, Andre Brown
WR: AJ Green, Andre Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Miles Austin, Titus Young, Kendall Wright

[JonInMiddleGA]

Was up by one point (espn standard league) going into tonight but prospects were dim. I had only the 49ers defense left, he had the Cardinals defense and Frank Gore.

I come away with a two point victory :)

[bhlloy]

I'm actually considering starting Randall Cobb over Megatron this weekend? Tell me if I'm crazy or not

[stevew]

Crazy. But you should also be starting Cobb as well.

[bhlloy]

My other two WR are AJ Green and Brandon Marshall. Hence the dilemma

[johnnyshaka]

My other two WR are AJ Green and Brandon Marshall. Hence the dilemma

You playing in a league full of women or what? How WTF do you end up that group of WRs? WOW!

[Butter]

Cam Newton or Philip Rivers.

Will Cam put it together this year, ever? This would seem to be the week, right?

But Rivers gets that horrid KC defense. At home.

[bhlloy]

You playing in a league full of women or what? How WTF do you end up that group of WRs? WOW!

Well my RB are completely horrible, but Matt Ryan and those WR have got me to a winning record so far. just one of those drafts that fell weird