Official College Football Week 2 Thread

[cartman]

There are no matchups of Top 25 teams this weekend. Texas A&M and Mizzou both have their opening games in their new conference. The Aggies host the Gators and Georgia travels to Columbia. Florida State will see how they match up against Oklahoma State when they take their turn having their way with Savannah State.

[MacroGuru]

Not to keyed up for BYU this week as they are taking on Weber State which again was a rush filler for the schedule when we went independent. It will be on BYUtv which almost everyone should have. I will still watch the game just to see when our scrubs go in and how they handle.

[MrBug708]

Nebraska comes to the Rose Bowl

[dawgfan]

Washington travels to Baton Rouge to take on LSU. While I'd love to say the Huskies will give them a fight, I'm afraid the reality is that LSU will be able to run the ball all over us, and on defense overwhelm our OL, negating the effectiveness of Price at QB.

Hope I'm wrong...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Excited about the Mizzou-Georgia game. First game I've been to in almost two years. My business keeps me busy on the weekend in the fall normally. Picked up some great seats in the end zone.

Lots of money going on Mizzou right now. Most Vegas books started Georgia as a 3 1/2 point favorite on Monday. It's now down to 2 or 2 1/2 in all of the major Vegas books.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Doesn't matter who he's playing for, Washaun Ealey is gonna be Washaun Ealey.

Report: Ex-UGA running back arrested on drug charges | www.ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/ex-uga-running-back-arrested-on-drug-charges/nR4GZ/)

[panerd]

Excited about the Mizzou-Georgia game. First game I've been to in almost two years. My business keeps me busy on the weekend in the fall normally. Picked up some great seats in the end zone.

Lots of money going on Mizzou right now. Most Vegas books started Georgia as a 3 1/2 point favorite on Monday. It's now down to 2 or 2 1/2 in all of the major Vegas books.

Can't wait. Dropped my season tickets for the first time in 15 years (first baby on the way in October) and then the GA and Bama tickets start going for outragous amounts. Could have paid for the rest of the games with those two tickets and kept my season tickets for '13. Was able to land a couple from a friend of my brother though to this game. It looks to have the type of crowd that OU game had a few years ago. I think its going to be close and hope we don't lay an egg for our entrance to the SEC.

[tarcone]

A guy I work with was a bar and won a pair of tickets on the 45 yard line row 10 for the Mizzou game.

Iowa gets Iowa St. at home. This is the Clowns BCS bowl. I hope Iowa plays better. The O line needs some experience. And fast.

[General Mike]

TV Listings for Week 2 (http://mattsarzsports.com/Football2012/week2)

[cartman]

Cincinnati and Pitt meet tonight to kick off this week's games. Will be interesting to see if Pitt can bounce back from a loss to FBS Youngstown State, or if Cincinnati will just run roughshod over them in their opening game of the season.

[Ben E Lou]

Savannah State is the biggest underdog in college football history - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20078028/savannah-state-is-the-biggest-underdog-in-college-football-history)

[Logan]

Savannah State is the biggest underdog in college football history - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/20078028/savannah-state-is-the-biggest-underdog-in-college-football-history)

The largest spread in college football history before this week came in 2007 when Hawaii was a 60-point favorite over Northern Colorado . Hawaii would win that game 63-6, and Northern Colorado would cover.

Did I miss another qualifier in the story that would result in them not including Savannah State's +67.5 vs Ok State last week? OSU covered easily of course.

edit: Got it. Some googling shows that line closed at +58. The opening spread was a record.

[bronconick]

This game is so bad I can't think of when I've been more unexcited about a FSU game. Maybe one of those Tebow Florida games where I knew they had no chance.

[Ksyrup]

FSU usually leaves so many points on the field there's no way I'd bet on FSU. I expect that 70 to come down.

[bronconick]

Did just hit 69 points.

[Passacaglia]

Did I miss another qualifier in the story that would result in them not including Savannah State's +67.5 vs Ok State last week? OSU covered easily of course.

edit: Got it. Some googling shows that line closed at +58. The opening spread was a record.

Interesting that they used the close as their guidelines, since this line hasn't closed yet.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah but they started slow and the opponent blew a couple of easy scoring chances. Four of the first 6 possessions were either punts after 3 or 4 plays or an INT, along with 2 TDs.

Plus - ESPN's schedules only go back to 2002, so that's as far as I was able to check, but we haven't scored 70 points in a game in the last decade, let alone win by 70 points in a game. We've only scored 60+ points 4 times since 2002 (second time under Jimbo).

Not saying it won't happen, but I wouldn't bet on it happening.

[MrBug708]

Washington travels to Baton Rouge to take on LSU. While I'd love to say the Huskies will give them a fight, I'm afraid the reality is that LSU will be able to run the ball all over us, and on defense overwhelm our OL, negating the effectiveness of Price at QB.

Hope I'm wrong...

Not so confident this week? ;)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Virginia Tech Hokies' D.J. Coles out for rest of season - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8343874/virginia-tech-hokies-dj-coles-rest-season)

[dawgfan]

Not so confident this week? ;)
Be honest - how confident would you be about the Bruins playing a night game in Baton Rouge against LSU?

[RainMaker]

Yeah but they started slow and the opponent blew a couple of easy scoring chances. Four of the first 6 possessions were either punts after 3 or 4 plays or an INT, along with 2 TDs.

Plus - ESPN's schedules only go back to 2002, so that's as far as I was able to check, but we haven't scored 70 points in a game in the last decade, let alone win by 70 points in a game. We've only scored 60+ points 4 times since 2002 (second time under Jimbo).

Not saying it won't happen, but I wouldn't bet on it happening.

Savannah State struggles against D2 schools, let alone FCS. FSU could beat them by 150 if they wanted to. These spreads come down to how soon the coach pulls back to avoid embarrassing the other school more. OSU could have put up 150 with ease.

[tarcone]

Hey, did you hear Iowa States QB got hurt drinking milk?



A cow fell on him.

[Atocep]

I really wish Tino Sunseri had 4 more years of eligibility. I've never seen a Pitt QB that's as fun to watch.

[bronconick]

Pitt's going to fit right into the ACC. Jesus.

[Poli]

Going to Knoxville with my brother tomorrow morning. It'll be my second UT game, his first. He hasn't been back to the area since we moved away in 1990. 4 rows from our sideline!

[RainMaker]

Pitt is not a good football team.

[Dr. Sak]

Not a fan of that hold call that took away that Pitt TD.

[Ksyrup]

Dave Matter‏<s>@</s>Dave_Matter
Unless Georgia players are orchestrating mind games on Twitter, sure seems like Rambo & Ogletree didn't make trip, won't play tomorrow

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Dave Matter‏<s>@</s>Dave_Matter
Unless Georgia players are orchestrating mind games on Twitter, sure seems like Rambo & Ogletree didn't make trip, won't play tomorrow

Impressive. Figured Richt would buckle.

[cartman]

Just by joining the SEC, Texas A&M has added two national titles and three conference championships.

From the stadium last year:
http://www.rantsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/aggies11.jpg

To the stadium this year:
http://www.rantsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/aggies2.jpg

Texas A&M Aggies "win" national championships this summer : Laces Out (http://www.rantsports.com/lacesout/2012/09/06/texas-am-aggies-win-two-additional-football-national-titles-this-summer/)

[Ksyrup]

I thought I read that Alabama somehow added 5 national titles.

[Big Fo]

The national titles are one thing (though the 1919 one seems far less of a reach than the 1927 one), that was so long ago and how did any voters really see these teams often enough to rank them back then? You could probably only see one game in person each week and would have to travel there.

But the part on the conference titles is pretty sad imo:

And about those new conference titles:

In 1997, the Aggies finished 6-2 in conference play and faced the 8-0 Nebraska Cornhuskers in the Big XII title game. They lost to the Big Red by a score of 54-15, but that didn’t stop them from claiming their Big 12 South title as a full-fledged conference championship.

They also now claim to have been conference champions in 2010. That’s partially true, but what they fail to mention is that they finished 3rd in a 3-way tie for the Big 12 South crown that season, and didn’t even represent the division in the Big 12 Championship game. But again, why not claim the title? They were close, right?

[Ksyrup]

Utah looks terrible.

[MacroGuru]

Utah looks terrible.

Yes they do...we play them next week and they will look like Alabama against us is usually how it works. :mad:

[SirFozzie]

And Utah State does the "Ice the Kicker" and the Utah Kicker misses the FG, gets a second chance.. and misses it even worse.

[SirFozzie]

Wow, Gutsy call by the officials there on what would have been the tying TD for Utah.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Damn, is that all the people that you could bring out for Gameday on your SEC debut, Aggies? I thought they were a football school?????

[MrBug708]

ESPN heads seem to like UCLA on the upset

[miked]

Got me some front row seats to the GT game for my brother's birthday. Hope the weather holds as I'm taking my 3.5 year old.

[Matthean]

ESPN heads seem to like UCLA on the upset

IIRC, Nebraska had a bunch of seniors last year so they are inexperienced, it's their first game, and it's the infamous Big Ten/Pac 12 match up although at least for Nebraska it is a shorter trip.

[tarcone]

Daughter has a X country meet about 45 minutes away at Forest Park. She runs at 1:25. Iowa plays the hated Clowns at 2:30 on the BTN. Looks like I miss the kickoff. But should be back by the mid 1st quarter.
Im worried about this game. Iowa is young-ish. Esp. on both lines. Getting to the QB will be huge for Iowa today.

Go Hawks!

[MizzouRah]

I am really amped up for the Mizzou game! Wish I had tickets!!!

[Buccaneer]

Hey, did you hear Iowa States QB got hurt drinking milk?



A cow fell on him.

At least he was doing something instead of constantly whining about losing to the Cyclones or to....[gasp]...Minnesota!

44-41

[Ksyrup]

If they are going to have these ridiculous new helmet rules, at least call them correctly. In the Ohio State game, an OSU player lost his helmet during a kick-off, was blocked to the ground after his helmet came off (15-yard penalty for blocking a player without a helmet), and then he got up and tried to make a tackle (15-yard penalty on him). They only called him for the penalty.

I understand the reason for the rule, but it's ridiculous to think someone's going to stop playing and watch a ball carrier run right past them.

[sterlingice]

Yay! I get to watch KU play as locally they're on here against Rice :)

SI

[Lathum]

IIRC, Nebraska had a bunch of seniors last year so they are inexperienced, it's their first game, and it's the infamous Big Ten/Pac 12 match up although at least for Nebraska it is a shorter trip.

Nebraska played last week, Martinez threw 5 TD's and look amazing against Southern Miss

[Lathum]

If they are going to have these ridiculous new helmet rules, at least call them correctly. In the Ohio State game, an OSU player lost his helmet during a kick-off, was blocked to the ground after his helmet came off (15-yard penalty for blocking a player without a helmet), and then he got up and tried to make a tackle (15-yard penalty on him). They only called him for the penalty.

I understand the reason for the rule, but it's ridiculous to think someone's going to stop playing and watch a ball carrier run right past them.

apparently it is also OK to rip off your helmet in celebration after making a stop on 4th and 1 if you play for CFU.

[bob]

UConn - NC State is the only game available on ESPN3 right now. This is painful to watch. I miss cable.

[bronconick]

Virginia player got 15 for "continuing in the play" for his helmet coming off while he was making the tackle.

This rule is going to suck if that's how it's called.

[Ksyrup]

apparently it is also OK to rip off your helmet in celebration after making a stop on 4th and 1 if you play for CFU.

That's UCF - U Can't Finish

[Ksyrup]

Virginia player got 15 for "continuing in the play" for his helmet coming off while he was making the tackle.

This rule is going to suck if that's how it's called.

Yeah, that's what the OSU player got called for, too. Except in his case, he also got taken to the ground by a blocker before getting up and trying to make a tackle. Both of those are supposed to be penalties.

[miked]

Got me some front row seats to the GT game for my brother's birthday. Hope the weather holds as I'm taking my 3.5 year old.

So much for that. Nice torrential downpours now. Good for triple option, bad for going to the game.

[Grover]

Come on UCF...

[Matthean]

Frazier of Auburn has 18 yards passing at the start of the 4th. Life without Malzahn is going to make for a long year down there.

[SackAttack]

Dear Mizzou: please win.

[Matthean]

PSU up 16-10 despite their kicker being 1-4.

[Ksyrup]

PSU up 16-10 despite their kicker being 1-4.

And a blocked XP.

[bronconick]

Miami's not going have a program to get hit by the NCAA with.

Kansas State 52, 'Canes 6.

[Ksyrup]

If aTm can beat UF, this will be a pretty nice day.

[Matthean]

Miami's not going have a program to get hit by the NCAA with.

Kansas State 52, 'Canes 6.

When I saw the score, I assumed it was Miami of Ohio. That's seriously a "Wait, what the hell?" type of score.

[Grover]

Maryland's pants are absolutely hideous.

[cartman]

PSU's kicker ends the day 1-5 on FGs, when he misses the 43 yarder on the last play of the game. Virginia wins 17-16.

[Ksyrup]

Ficken is an unfortunate name after that performance.

[Simbo Klice]

PSU up 16-10 despite their kicker being 1-4.

... And the kicker just blew the game.

[Ksyrup]

Your kicker stinks and you lose 4 yards to center the ball? How about trying to gain 10 yards to make it an easier kick?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Awful awful stuff

Tulane safety Devon Walker hospitalized after suffered broken neck, collapsed lung in hit - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8352006/tulane-safety-devon-walker-hospitalized-suffered-broken-neck-collapsed-lung-hit)

[sterlingice]

Kansas looks pretty full for the game against Rice

Unfortunately, the team looking shitty. Botched dying bird throw on a flea flicker turns into a FG for Rice. On the ensuing kickoff, fumble and Rice has the ball again deep in KU territory

SI

[cartman]

Time to start the annual Brent Musburger hate. The A&M QB was two yards past the line of scrimmage when he threw the ball. Brent tries to create drama where is none with the ol' "This is going to be a very close call".

[Swaggs]

Time to start the annual Brent Musburger hate. The A&M QB was two yards past the line of scrimmage when he threw the ball. Brent tries to create drama where is none with the ol' "This is going to be a very close call".

They just won another Big 12 title! :)

[Matthean]

Michigan's D looks to be a shell of what it was last year.

[Atocep]

What in the hell is Rutgers wearing?

[Matthean]

Freshman WR/TE Funchess already has 80 yards receiving with a TD. It helps being 6'5".

[MizzouRah]

Awful awful stuff

Tulane safety Devon Walker hospitalized after suffered broken neck, collapsed lung in hit - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8352006/tulane-safety-devon-walker-hospitalized-suffered-broken-neck-collapsed-lung-hit)

Very sad.. his mom was watching the game on TV when it happened. :(

[Matthean]

Toussaint has been DOA with a stellar 1.2 ypc and Denard throws his mandatory pick.

The days of Wisconsin beating up on filler teams seems to be over. They have a grand total of 35 total yards and 1.9 yards per rush.

[tarcone]

Well, just got home a little bit ago. See Iowa is losing. The ISU QB hasnt missed.
But my daughter finished 20th out of 160 runners at the meet and got a medal. Exciting for her 1st meet of her school career.

[Matthean]

Robinson 137 yards rushing and 2 TDs on two carries alone.

[Edward64]

PSU's kicker ends the day 1-5 on FGs, when he misses the 43 yarder on the last play of the game. Virginia wins 17-16.

I did prefer PSU to lose but not in that way. I feel very sorry for the kid. I think his confidence, season (and career) are shot. He's always going to remember how he choked. The coach should have pulled him.

[Edward64]

Frazier of Auburn has 18 yards passing at the start of the 4th. Life without Malzahn is going to make for a long year down there.,

I'm a Razorback fan (and sided with Malzahn over Nutt) so am rooting for Malzahn to do well at ASU. I am puzzled by his selection of ASU, I think he could have gotten a better HC position ... its hard to recruit in a state dominated by UA.

[Matthean]

Michigan now 21-17. This is at least a 4 loss team. Even after Toussaint gets back to playing shape, he still has a court date with jail time. The defense is mediocre right now. MSU might win the conference by default unless another team starts to show a pulse. This is a dead conference right now.

[mckerney]

Frazier of Auburn has 18 yards passing at the start of the 4th. Life without Malzahn is going to make for a long year down there.

Might be able to say the same for Wisconsin without Crist and Bobstad at Wisconsin if they don't pick it up, 18 yards rushing at the half in Corvallis.

[Matthean]

I'm a Razorback fan (and sided with Malzahn over Nutt) so am rooting for Malzahn to do well at ASU. I am puzzled by his selection of ASU, I think he could have gotten a better HC position ... its hard to recruit in a state dominated by UA.

If you wait a year, he might be back there.

Michigan stops a fake FG at the one to still lead 28-17. This is getting into the RR type of defensive territory.

[Matthean]

Might be able to say the same for Wisconsin without Crist and Bobstad at Wisconsin if they don't pick it up, 18 yards rushing at the half in Corvallis.

Wilson was also huge for that offense. I don't see how doing a repeat of bringing a guy in instantly makes them nearly on par with what they were the year before. Even with OSU ineligible, the changing of the guard in that division happened this off season.

[Klinglerware]

My first time at a 1A game, USC-Syracuse. Compared to the Ivy League games I usually go to, yeah you definitely see the size/speed advantage of the BCS-caliber players.

Tailgating didn't seem any better than what I would see at Harvard-Yale.

Anyway, they've herded us into the concourse because of the lightning. Sipping a Yuengling, waiting it out...

[Matthean]

28-25 Michigan. Sigh.

[Izulde]

If UNLV can't beat Northern Arizona, we'll probably go 0-13.

[larrymcg421]

I did prefer PSU to lose but not in that way. I feel very sorry for the kid. I think his confidence, season (and career) are shot. He's always going to remember how he choked. The coach should have pulled him.

Alexis Serna rebounded from what was an even more devastating debut performance (missing three extra points, including one that would have tied it in OT) in a 1 pt loss against LSU. He went on to win the Lou Groza award the very next year.

[Edward64]

Alexis Serna rebounded from what was an even more devastating debut performance (missing three extra points, including one that would have tied it in OT) in a 1 pt loss against LSU. He went on to win the Lou Groza award the very next year.

And that is one out of how many? The odds are heavily against it.

[sterlingice]

So, Florida State, which was giving an insane 70.5 points against Savannah State scores 39 seconds into the game and is up 7-0

SI

[Galaril]

28-25 Michigan. Sigh.

I give ALOT of props to Air Force also. They never backed down and it is esepcially impressive doing it in the big house.

[B & B]

One simply does not walk into Corvallis.

[Matthean]

I give ALOT of props to Air Force also. They never backed down and it is esepcially impressive doing it in the big house.

Yep. This was a RR type game, Michigan I think suffered dealing with a post beat down loss, and AF just kept bringing it to them. If AF had a little bit more talent or made one or two plays, it was there for the taking.

[mckerney]

Wilson was also huge for that offense. I don't see how doing a repeat of bringing a guy in instantly makes them nearly on par with what they were the year before. Even with OSU ineligible, the changing of the guard in that division happened this off season.

Wilson did a lot for that offense, but even when they hadn't had stellar QB play they'd been able to move the ball on the ground. Under 80 yards and 0 points through 3 quarters is from a lot more than QB play.

[sterlingice]

Dayne Crist has really happy feet and slow judgement. I believe someone warned me about that in another thread

SI

[Buccaneer]

Woo Hoo!! Cyclones beats Iowa!

[cartman]

New season, new conference, new coaches, same result for A&M. They had a 17-7 lead, but couldn't do anything in the 2nd half and lost to Florida 20-17. I guess it also helped that Florida had a player named Mack Brown.

[tarcone]

Dang. This offense is terrible. Dropped passes, bad passes. Need to recruit some WRs.
I was thinking we would go 8-4. Im thinking we will be lucky to go 6-6.

[sterlingice]

Well, shitty. KU just lost to Rice. @ Northern Illinois and vs Iowa State are the only two games left on the schedule we even have a chance at

SI

[Buccaneer]

Dang. This offense is terrible. Dropped passes, bad passes. Need to recruit some WRs.
I was thinking we would go 8-4. Im thinking we will be lucky to go 6-6.

So the cow fell on the other QB, huh?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

28-25 Michigan. Sigh.

I'm still at work. Get to watch when I get home. :popcorn:

[bob]

I don't understand what ND / Brian Kelly is doing. Little over 2 minutes to go, tie game, and they go back to Tommy Rees at QB. It worked, he drove them down the field for the go ahead field goal and the win, but congrats on another year of quarterback controversy.

[Matthean]

I'm still at work. Get to watch when I get home. :popcorn:

It's a RR type game through and through. There are some bright spots for the future, but I honestly have concerns about this offense next year. I can't tell if Michigan has no WRs, or if it's due to the QB they have.

[Matthean]

I don't understand what ND / Brian Kelly is doing. Little over 2 minutes to go, tie game, and they go back to Tommy Rees at QB. It worked, he drove them down the field for the go ahead field goal and the win, but congrats on another year of quarterback controversy.

I checked for injuries and didn't see one talked about. Sometimes people just out think themselves.

[mauchow]

All right, the Badgers suck and the offense sucks really bad without RW3 but that was not indisputable evidence. Horse shit call.

[cartman]

I wouldn't have wanted to make that call on the replay of the onside kick in the Wisconsin-Oregon State game. That was gonna be tough either way.

[cartman]

All right, the Badgers suck and the offense sucks really bad without RW3 but that was not indisputable evidence. Horse shit call.

It was indisputable that the kicker touched the ball before it went 10 yards. What wasn't indisputable was if the Oregon State player touched it first.

[Scoobz0202]

It was indisputable that the kicker touched the ball before it went 10 yards. What wasn't indisputable was if the Oregon State player touched it first.

Yea. Although towards the end they showed a different angle where I thought I saw the OSU player touching it first. I only saw that angle once, though.

[mauchow]

It was indisputable that the kicker touched the ball before it went 10 yards. What wasn't indisputable was if the Oregon State player touched it first.

THe ball came backwards from the 10 yard mark when the kicker is running the opposite way. COmpletely the wrong call but it doesn't change the fact that the Badgers absolutely miss Russell Wilson and Paul Chryst and the two NFL OL.

Are we sure that Russell didn't have one more year of eligibility?

[bob]

I'm not saying that Golson was playing great or anything, but the first sign of trouble against Michigan State or Michigan is going to start the whole mess again with shuffling QBs.

[cartman]

Did Petros Papadakis finally go to voice school? The sound of his voice is about 500% less annoying than it used to be.

[bob]

Also, I guess FSU wants to cover.

[Matthean]

I'm not saying that Golson was playing great or anything, but the first sign of trouble against Michigan State or Michigan is going to start the whole mess again with shuffling QBs.

MSU plays them next and they have a defense. Granted, passing teams are the ones that will beat MSU as ND did last year. One of the few interesting games MSU has all year.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

If anybody is watching Toledo/Wyoming, I am truly sorry for what you are experiencing.

[Scoobz0202]

Also, I guess FSU wants to cover.

Have they had a drive that hasn't been a touchdown, yet?

[mauchow]

Wow -- I'm still baffled how bad we played for 58 minutes. I understand it was in Corvallis but WI had a game under their belt and OSU still just outplayed the shit out of them....Wow.

Shocked. A little less shocked than if we won 50-3 last week instead of by five...

[Buccaneer]

If anybody is watching Toledo/Wyoming, I am truly sorry for what you are experiencing.

Why?

[Kodos]

IU whips UMass, but loses Tre Roberson to a broken leg.

[BillJasper]

Missouri is wearing some real ugly uniforms.

[sterlingice]

Also, I guess FSU wants to cover.

Slowed down now: haven't scored in the last 5 minutes. Only up 48-0 with about 4 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter.

SI

[BillJasper]

Impressive first drive Missouri. :lol:

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Why?

It was back & forth, but EVERY play seemed to be due to a miscue.

Wyoming scored on the opening possession due to two missed tackles.

I didn't see the game, just heard the call at work. It seemed that every score was due to a blown coverage.

Wyoming lost their QB late in the game. The backup came in & threw a 3rd down TD on his 1st play. Why? The receiver wasn't covered.

I think Toledo scored 17 off turnovers.

[cartman]

Earl Campbell is handling the coin toss for the Texas-New Mexico game. It is sad to see that he can barely walk anymore. :(

[Ksyrup]

LOL Kent State up on Kentucky 7-0. Geez they are awful. They lose this one and 2-10 will be the ceiling for this team.

[Logan]

What in the hell is Rutgers wearing?

New Nike Pro Combats for this season. They've grown on me.

[Ksyrup]

Still not going to help.

FSU Football‏<s>@</s>FSU_Football
Official announcement: Halftime will be reduced to 10 minutes, and there will be a running clock for the entire 2nd half.

[Buccaneer]

[INSERT any team] is wearing some real ugly uniforms.

Fixed.

[Ksyrup]

Bryan Fischer‏<s>@</s>BryanDFischer
Denard Robinson had 426 of Michigan's 422 yards. Yeah, 101%.

[Ksyrup]

Love stuff like this:

Dennis Dodd‏<s>@</s>dennisdoddcbs
Since the beginning of the 2011 season Sacramento State has more I-A wins than Ole Miss.

[cartman]

Still not going to help.

FSU Football‏<s>@</s>FSU_Football
Official announcement: Halftime will be reduced to 10 minutes, and there will be a running clock for the entire 2nd half.

I wonder if the sport books are still gonna honor bets.

[Ksyrup]

Probably not.

[britrock88]

UNC? Sigh. Michigan? Sigh. Wisconsin? Sigh. See you guys next week.

[Scoobz0202]

Probably not.

Is that because they are trying to avoid weather or because Savannah State wasn't playing football?

[Ksyrup]

Both. This takes non-competitive to a new level. It didn't even look like FSU was moving at full speed or sweating.

[kingfc22]

Still not going to help.

FSU Football‏<s>@</s>FSU_Football
Official announcement: Halftime will be reduced to 10 minutes, and there will be a running clock for the entire 2nd half.

Embarrassing. I hope crap schedules like this get penalized under the new system.

[JonInMiddleGA]

C'mon Mizzou, just because you're dressed like a high school team doesn't mean you gotta play like one.

Surely that'll be overturned as a pass.

[mckerney]

Still not going to help.

FSU Football‏<s>@</s>FSU_Football
Official announcement: Halftime will be reduced to 10 minutes, and there will be a running clock for the entire 2nd half.

And it's over.

[cuervo72]

Missouri is wearing some real ugly uniforms.

They seem CFLish. I wouldn't say they're horrible, but different than we're used to for sure.

[Chief Rum]

Did Petros Papadakis finally go to voice school? The sound of his voice is about 500% less annoying than it used to be.

Heh... I think he tones it down now is all. He's more under control on radio, too. Although not as much.

To be fair, on radio, where he is with Money Smith, Money is so deadpan, that the contrast with Petros actually works.

[Chief Rum]

UCLA-Nebraska a fun one so far.

[kingfc22]

C'mon Mizzou, just because you're dressed like a high school team doesn't mean you gotta play like one.

Tell that to UGA's punt returner.

[SackAttack]

Woo touchdown!

[Kodos]

Is SEC football always as boring as the Mizzou game?

[sterlingice]

Embarrassing. I hope crap schedules like this get penalized under the new system.

{sarcasm}Yeah, that's totally going to happen.{/sarcasm}

Consider the non-conference schedules of the #1, #3, #4, #7, and #9- they have nothing remotely resembling a 2nd good team. And that's not including the top 10 teams I wiped off the list for having UTEP or Tulsa as their 2nd decent non-conference game. Heck, at least Florida State has Florida and South Florida in the non-con. That second game is light years better than any Alabama, LSU, Oregon, Georgia, and South Carolina have.

SI

[sterlingice]

Is SEC football always as boring as the Mizzou game?

:D

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Damn, almost.

[cartman]

New Mexico is doing a great job of taking the air out of the ball. Texas has only had the ball four times, but have scored two touchdowns and kicked a FG to lead 17-0 at halftime.

[flounder]

To be fair to Fla State, they did have West Virginia scheduled for this week but WV backed out in February.

[PilotMan]

NDSU is about to chalk up another FBS victim.

[Ksyrup]

How does Nebraska have 333 yards of offense in 1 half yet no 3rd down conversions?

[BillJasper]

They seem CFLish. I wouldn't say they're horrible, but different than we're used to for sure.

They look like bees out there... :lol:

[JonInMiddleGA]

How does Nebraska have 333 yards of offense in 1 half yet no 3rd down conversions?

Well they've only had 4 tries at it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I swear that Mizzou TD looked like something out of my NCAA 13 single player dynasty.

[rowech]

I wonder if the sport books are still gonna honor bets.

From what I've read, all bets are pushed. Game has to last at least 55 minutes to be official for gambling purposes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Geez Mizzou, f'n tackle somebody.

[PilotMan]

NDSU 22 Colorado St 7

[Easy Mac]

Horrible neck injury in Arkansas game. Nothing but involuntary movements after the hit. I think we're seeing the beginning of the end of football.

[Matthean]

Is SEC football always as boring as the Mizzou game?

Apparently you missed those 'Bama vs. LSU games last year.

[Edward64]

Horrible neck injury in Arkansas game. Nothing but involuntary movements after the hit. I think we're seeing the beginning of the end of football.

Not Wilson as he got hurt before the half. Who is it?

[Matthean]

Not Wilson as he got hurt before the half. Who is it?

They are reporting Tevin Mitchell got hurt as well.

[sterlingice]

I can't find the Louisiana-Monroe/Arkansas game on anywhere

EDIT: Never mind, on ESPNU

SI

[mckerney]

firstrowsports always works.

[sterlingice]

LA Monroe TD with 47 seconds to go! One point down against Arkansas

SI

[sterlingice]

And the extra point ties the game at 28

SI

[Ksyrup]

Apparently you missed those 'Bama vs. LSU games last year.

Miss St 3, Auburn 2. 2008/09?

"Great defense."

[Matthean]

Not sure if the Razorbacks have enough bodies for OT.

[Ksyrup]

And the extra point ties the game at 28

SI

This is like watching a motorcycle wreck.

[sterlingice]

This is like watching a motorcycle wreck.

Ugliest film quality I've ever seen.

LA-Monroe gets a pick with 20 seconds to go!

SI

[Ksyrup]

That guy was wide open and the QB threw a punt.

[sterlingice]

Ugh. On second down, they should have gone for the pick, not the hit

SI

[sterlingice]

On 4th and 1- LA Monroe for the WIN!

SI

[MizzouRah]

I think the Mizzou - Georgia game has been excellent. Tight defensive first half, wide open in the 2nd half.

[tarcone]

WOW :jawdrop:

[cartman]

Holy shit, Louisana-Monroe pulls it off!

[Ksyrup]

John L Smith workin' his magic.

[sterlingice]

For the game, Louisiana Monroe was 6 for 7 on 4th downs

SI

[Lathum]

wow, amazing. My boss is an Arkansas fan, almost can't wait for Monday

[MizzouRah]

Hey ref.. FUCK OFF!

[tarcone]

Pinkel over thought the 4th and 11 and it might cost him the game

[Ksyrup]

I think ULM gets Auburn next weekend.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Kinda saw the hints that Arky was indeed down after they had a handful with Jax State in the first half last week. Great win for La-Monroe obviously & a major upset but maybe not quite as shocking as it would have been if there hadn't been a little inkling last week.

[Izulde]

Man that last scramble for the TD was freaking awesome.

[miked]

Good game from GT, awesome weather and my daughter loved it. Couldn't have asked for more, except a better opponent. But then I wouldn't have gotten front row tickets.

[sterlingice]

I think ULM gets Auburn next weekend.

If I were a betting man, I'm taking Auburn and the points. I only saw part of the 4th quarter and this felt like that NCAA tourney game where a 15 takes down a 2 and has no chance in the 2nd game because they played out of their mind to get the huge upset.

SI

[cartman]

Now for sure we'll never see MJ4H in these parts again.

[Easy Mac]

how was that not a horse collar on Mizzou?

[Ksyrup]

If I were a betting man, I'm taking Auburn and the points. I only saw part of the 4th quarter and this felt like that NCAA tourney game where a 15 takes down a 2 and has no chance in the 2nd game because they played out of their mind to get the huge upset.

SI

Maybe, but Auburn's kinda not so good. They could easily go 2-for-2 against the SEC.

[Easy Mac]

If I were a betting man, I'm taking Auburn and the points. I only saw part of the 4th quarter and this felt like that NCAA tourney game where a 15 takes down a 2 and has no chance in the 2nd game because they played out of their mind to get the huge upset.

SI

you obviously haven't seen Kiehl Frazier play

[cartman]

I hope for his sake that John L. Smith hasn't hired any hot blondes since he became head coach at Arky.

[Matthean]

If I were a betting man, I'm taking Auburn and the points. I only saw part of the 4th quarter and this felt like that NCAA tourney game where a 15 takes down a 2 and has no chance in the 2nd game because they played out of their mind to get the huge upset.

SI

And key players from the #2 seed get hurt. FYI, Arkansas gets 'Bama next week. Hopefully Wilson is back from his concussion.

[MizzouRah]

Pinkel over thought the 4th and 11 and it might cost him the game

Franklin missing open WR's might cost them the game.

[tarcone]

Who was saying that Gene Chizik was a good coach? I remember that argument but not who it was with.
Life is tough without Newton and tougher without Gus Malzahn.

[MizzouRah]

BIG stop by the defense.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I swear, this UGA-Mizzou thing looks remarkably like I figured it would.

The talent gap looks as big as I expected. Georgia's ability to consistently recruit underachieving head cases/troublemakers/etc & then fail to coach them at all turns this into a close game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Right. On. Cue.

[MizzouRah]

Game

[Easy Mac]

someone needs to screencap that sad Missouri kid

[MizzouRah]

Dammit Franklin, we just get a 1st down on a penalty and then you throw an INT.

[JonInMiddleGA]

If Georgia's defense had been at full strength, I honestly don't know if Mizzou would have scored more than once all day.

[Matthean]

Nebraska is in serious jeopardy of losing to UCLA.

[Easy Mac]

alright Nebraska, lets finish this game soon so I can see that episode of Touch my TiVo says should be on.

[cartman]

Texas takes care of business and shuts out New Mexico 45-0. They travel to Ole Miss next weekend, and there is a decent chance me and a couple of buddies will make the road trip to experience The Grove.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Put a fork in Nebraska.

[Matthean]

Just a brutal weekend for the Big Ten all round.

[sterlingice]

Oh, Mizzou :(

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Turning brutal for Mizzou

[Matthean]

I do find it interesting that all three games between the Big Ten and Pac 12 were in Pac 12 country.

[cartman]

Both A&M and Mizzou just folded in the 2nd half.

[Matthean]

Both A&M and Mizzou just folded in the 2nd half.

Kind of like their tenure in the Big 12. :devil:

[stevew]

Now for sure we'll never see MJ4H in these parts again.

I'm sure once they get good again with an awesome coach.

[MizzouRah]

Oh, Mizzou :(

SI

Yep, just like that the game got out of hand. Oh well, such is life.

[MrBug708]

Woooo...Hundley looks better than anyone in the Pac not named Matt Barkley and maybe Mariota

[cartman]

Can't wait to see Sheldon Richardson's tweets after this game.

[tarcone]

B1G is not very good. And Iowa is horrible. We will be very liucky to beat UNI next week.

I rarely see a PAC12(10) team play at a B1G stadium. Iowa is always going west.
I wonder why that is.

[GrantDawg]

Yep, just like that the game got out of hand. Oh well, such is life.


Mizzou is a scary team. I haven't been able to breathe until 10 minutes ago.

[sterlingice]

Mizzou is a scary team. I haven't been able to breathe until 10 minutes ago.

Gary Pinkel is great at recruiting NFL-caliber playmakers, especially on offense. However, the teams always seem a little light in the depth department on defense and don't have elite offensive linemen.

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Mizzou is a scary team. I haven't been able to breathe until 10 minutes ago.

Mizzou shouldn't have scared you nearly as much as your own roster/sideline.

Georgia's biggest problem with a game like that one are internal, not external.

[Matthean]

Arizona up 23-14 on Ok. State.

[RainMaker]

But OK State looked so good against Savannah State.

[Izulde]

UNLV only up 14-7 on Northern Arizona at the start of the 4th quarter. You know, the same NAU squad that got beat 63-6 last week?

[Atocep]

Rumor is that Tyler Wilson broke his collar bone and is out about 4 weeks.

[Matthean]

Rumor is that Tyler Wilson broke his collar bone and is out about 4 weeks.

Well, that's for 'Bama, Rutgers, TA&M, and Auburn. Kentucky would be week 5 with a bye week, Ole Miss, and Tulsa after that. It would be nice if the TA&M game was later, but nothing can be done about 'Bama. I didn't think they were going to win anyway, but it would have been nice for the game to have a chance of being entertaining. This should be another easy win for 'Bama.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'd like to have seen Missouri (or anybody else) beat them mangy Dawgs by 50 ... but they earned the right to do this afaic.

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[MrBug708]

Had UCLA not taken their last two kneel downs, they would have had the record for.most yards against Nebraska

[Izulde]

Fucking hell... 17-14 loss to flipping Northern Arizona. My only consolation for this shitty season is hope that Hauck will get his ass canned at the end of the year. In his third year and the team still sucks donkey dick.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, interesting night in the Pac 12. I suppose in the end, it all looks pretty good.

Everyone pretty much acknowledges the quality of USC and Oregon. Then UCLA, Oregon State and Arizona score huge wins over B1G teams. ASU as of this post is leading Okie State. Stanford smoked Duke (as expected).

Then you have Utah falling to Utah State, Colorado to FCS Sac State, Cal kinda allowing its game with an FCS team to remain too close, Washington State just edging out Eastern Washington, and LSU just demolishing UDub (as expected).

So, not sure whether this conference is actually good or not.

[Matthean]

A couple of those wins were where Nebraska was without their leading RB and Illinois was without their starting QB. I think it sounds like a lot of conferences. The upper part is decent and the bottom half sucks. At least in the battle of academic schools Northwestern beat Vandy.

[MrBug708]

UCLA started four offensive lineman who didn't play a snap last year. Two RS, one was in high school, and the four was on a mission trip

[Solecismic]

A lot has been made in recent years of mid-majors going undefeated and getting major bowl invitations. Many wrote off this happening this year when Michigan State beat Boise State last week.

I thought Central Florida could do it if the Knights could pull something off in Columbus. But Ohio State pulled away in the second half.

All that's really left is Ohio. A "signature" win over Penn State, whatever Penn State is this year. And a remaining schedule that wouldn't threaten a mediocre major school. If they can win at Miami (Ohio) on 10/27, I think the Bobcats are likely to be 12-0 going into the MAC championship.

What would you do with a 13-0 MAC school with a schedule strength of 123 out of 124 (UTSA plays four I-AA schools)?

[Poli]

Had a blast the past two nights in Knoxvile.

Rain hit about 3 hours before the game and stopped about 5 minutes into the game. Sun came out for a long period in the third quarter I believe. Great atmosphere for my brother's first game outside of that.

51-13 win over hapless Georgia State. It could have been worse but UT lost two turnovers and missed both an extra point and a field goal.

My newborn hasn't had much Tennessee gear since he's been born. I have not wanted to buy baby clothes online. He can consider himself hooked up now!

I am glad I was able to take my brother this year. A lowsy drunk and bad father years ago, he's made a remarkable change to his life since meeting his wife. He is a better person now than I have ever known him to be. His health and finances are not in great shape, though, so I am thrilled to "help a brother out".

I was glad to 'sponsor' him for this trip and last week's Kansas game. I believe he has spent 8 dollars all together. I'm also paying for his lawyer in his child custody case with his ex-girlfriend.

[Poli]

Didn't see Kansas play as a result. Bourbon didn't get a carry but had a reception. Tough way to lose a game as well. After watching the South Dakota game last week, I am surprised KU was in a position to win this game.

Hope it's available on the espn3 when I get home.

[Poli]

Shortly after we left Neyland I started getting texts from Mizzou fans asking me what the big deal about SEC football was about. I got to the hotel with about 3 minutes left in the first half. More texts came in early in the third quarter and then died out completely.

I wanted to send them the pic JIMGA posted and the other dry erase one that said "welcome to the SEC" but I didn't. I didn't want to pile on.

[Poli]

Happy for Arkansas and Vanderbilt losses as well. Not normally one to hate on SEC schools during non conference games but both teams have won a special place in my heart.

[Simbo Klice]

A lot has been made in recent years of mid-majors going undefeated and getting major bowl invitations. Many wrote off this happening this year when Michigan State beat Boise State last week.

I thought Central Florida could do it if the Knights could pull something off in Columbus. But Ohio State pulled away in the second half.

All that's really left is Ohio. A "signature" win over Penn State, whatever Penn State is this year. And a remaining schedule that wouldn't threaten a mediocre major school. If they can win at Miami (Ohio) on 10/27, I think the Bobcats are likely to be 12-0 going into the MAC championship.

What would you do with a 13-0 MAC school with a schedule strength of 123 out of 124 (UTSA plays four I-AA schools)?

I think it depends on if they win impressively all the way through. If you do, you reward them (and by proxy, the MAC) with the chance to pull down a lot of cash getting worked in a BCS bowl. It'll also depend on the quality of the other at-large teams, if it's between Ohio and a 3 loss Big 12 or Big 10 team then I think you reward the undefeated team even if the other team is obviously better.

[Edward64]

Both A&M and Mizzou just folded in the 2nd half.
Add Arkansas to that. This really hurts.

[RainMaker]

Northwestern is 2-0. Liking what I've seen so far. Not going to compete for the Big 10 or anything, but should be competitive. Boston College is a winnable game next week and South Dakota shouldn't be a problem. Decent shot they enter Big 10 play at 4-0.

Edit: I did graduate studies at Northwestern but I never felt like they were my team in the same way that people who get their Bachelors at a school. But recently I've been changing on them. Even went to a couple basketball games last year.

[bronconick]

Ball State's signature regular season win in Hoke's last season there (2008) was over Indiana. They rose to 12th at 12-0 in the BCS before losing to Buffalo in the MACCG. If Ohio matches that and wins the conference title game, they'd be in. It's top non-BCS champion in the top 12, or in the top 16 if a BCS conference champion is ranked behind them. That second part is quite possible, even probable if Louisville doesn't win the Big East.

Boise's been boned the last two years by not winning their conference.

[RainMaker]

I don't think Ohio is going to run the table. If they beat Marshall, they shouldn't be tested till the Miami of Ohio game which won't be easy. Bowling Green isn't bad either. But they do avoid NIU and Toledo in the regular season, although I'd give a decent shot for either of them to clip Ohio in the Conference Title game.

[Scarecrow]

The Big XII deserters (Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M) went 0-4 this week.

As my daddy always said, "The grass is greener on the oher side because they got more shit."

[Ksyrup]

That OK St score scares the crap out of me. FSU plays a decent WF team that usually gives us trouble. Playing Savannah State - I'm telling you, guys weren't having to try out there at all. Probably same thing happened with OK St. Now, we've actually got a D so I'm not THAT worried about it, but when you see no talent/speed for 2 games and then jump into real games, you never know.

Would have been interesting to see WVU against FSU's D this weekend. Oh well.

[RainMaker]

So FSU has played Savannah State and Murray State. Carry on that football tradition Seminoles!

[bronconick]

So FSU has played Savannah State and Murray State. Carry on that football tradition Seminoles!

Go yell at Missouri for not having the decency to wait one year to move leagues.

[sterlingice]

So FSU has played Savannah State and Murray State. Carry on that football tradition Seminoles!

I'll be the first to beat up on FSU, but at least they have South Florida and Florida on their schedule, two legit BCS schools in the noncon. That's more than most of the top 10 can say.

SI

[Lathum]

I'll be the first to beat up on FSU, but at least they have South Florida and Florida on their schedule, two legit BCS schools in the noncon. That's more than most of the top 10 can say.

SI

and as someone said earlier, this game was supposed to be WVU

[Vegas Vic]

I rarely see a PAC12(10) team play at a B1G stadium.

Most of these games are home-and-home series. Oregon State played at Wisconsin in 2011. UCLA plays at Nebraska on 9/14/2013.

[Solecismic]

I think it depends on if they win impressively all the way through. If you do, you reward them (and by proxy, the MAC) with the chance to pull down a lot of cash getting worked in a BCS bowl. It'll also depend on the quality of the other at-large teams, if it's between Ohio and a 3 loss Big 12 or Big 10 team then I think you reward the undefeated team even if the other team is obviously better.

That's why I won't be happy with the system until there's at least a 16-team playoff, preferably 24 or 32. Then it's big enough to give a spot to a school that hasn't been tested, but at least won all its games.

College football schedules vary so much. The NFL takes great pains to construct a fair system where each division, at least, is playing a near-identical schedule. That's not practical in college football.

It used to be that all that mattered in the Big Ten was winning the Big Ten championship and going to the Rose Bowl. Growing up, "Rose Bowl" was the reward for a great season. Many people would bring roses to games late in the season, if the Big Ten could be clinched with a victory. No one worried about "National Champions" - that sort of thing was left to the sportswriters, who were mostly cheering sections for regional interests anyway. That's why you have more claimed national championships than there are years.

Now that we've got this half-way system and the Rose Bowl isn't even necessarily for the Big Ten champion, it's hard to figure out what we want. If we can't have a big basketball-size tournament at the end, I'd rather see us playing a round-robin with the 12 conference teams and the 12th game would be a Notre Dame to start the season. I don't want to worry about bowl placement determinant on whether Ohio can run the table against 12 teams that would all be easier opponents than pretty much anyone we'll play this season.

[Solecismic]

and as someone said earlier, this game was supposed to be WVU

True. If that's WVU in the schedule, then Florida State would be playing as tough a schedule as any ACC team, maybe even the toughest.

I know it's hard to scramble and get a good opponent, but I think ADs need to know the FCS a little better. Surely, the money would have attracted a top-half FCS school. My problem is scheduling a bottom-five FCS school - it was less challenging than a scrimmage and there was serious risk of injury to the Savannah kids. Most fans just see FCS and assume the opponent is not competitive. That's not true. Every year, there are at least 10-20 FCS schools that could win half their games in a mid-major conference.

I felt the same way when Michigan scheduled Delaware State a few years back. The fans here figured it was the same as scheduling Delaware, probably didn't even know there was a Delaware State and assumed it was the same school. But Delaware State was a similarly bottom-tier FCS school and the game wasn't just a mismatch, it was uncomfortable.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Surely, the money would have attracted a top-half FCS school.

How many of them had an opening at the time this game was scheduled?

[Buccaneer]

It used to be that all that mattered in the Big Ten was winning the Big Ten championship and going to the Rose Bowl. Growing up, "Rose Bowl" was the reward for a great season. Many people would bring roses to games late in the season, if the Big Ten could be clinched with a victory. No one worried about "National Champions" - that sort of thing was left to the sportswriters, who were mostly cheering sections for regional interests anyway. That's why you have more claimed national championships than there are years.

And there was nothing wrong with that but they broke it anyway.

[Thomkal]

Well guess I might have to become a believer in Coastal Carolina's Financial CEO turned college football head coach Joe Moglia. Had to go on the road after a good opening win at home to play Furman. Furman had won 12 straight home openers and 22 straight non-conference home game wins coming into this one.

Coastal led comfortably after 3 quarters, but behind a backup QB for Furman who had never played in a college game before, the Paladins scored 19 points to take the lead. Coastal hit a clutch 45 yard FG with no time on the clock to send it into OT. Three Overtimes later Coastal escaped with a 49-47 win.

Thought this could have been a pretty bad loss for Coastal going into the game, and nearly was a loss, but to pull out the win was big and given the rest of their schedule, could be the start of a great season.

[Easy Mac]

Was at the game until midway through the third, when another downpour was on the way. I wast about to make my 3 year old sit through a second monsoon.

Not to take anything away from Coastal, but a high school team could beat Furman. They were horrendous. The starting QB literally did not have the arm strength to hit a running back three yards from the line. Every single first down play was either a run up the middle or a 4 yard toss back on a waterlogged field. Never mind the DBs consistently playing off at least 10 yards every pass.

[Ksyrup]

How many of them had an opening at the time this game was scheduled?

Exactly. If anything, FSU has gone out of ita way to play fewer cupcakes than the typical team. We've scheduled BYU, Oklahoma, and Colorado in the past few years, not to mention USF and (what was supposed to be) WVU. We've got UF on our schedule every year, and until Miami joined the ACC, we had them as non-conference, too.

With the ACC going to 9 games next year and UF on the schedule, we'll probably stick with 2 cupcakes a year, but this year, having 2 cupcakes - one of which was scheduled less than 6 months in advance after a top 20 team pulled out on us - is hardly a sin that should be held against us.

I just don't like going from 2 cupcakes straight into conference play.