Official College Football Week 5 thread

[cartman]

This week's games start on Thursday evening with #8 Stanford heading up the coast to play Washington. There are only a couple of match ups of Top 25 teams this week:

#25 Baylor at #9 West Virginia
#14 Ohio State at #20 Michigan State

[Ksyrup]

I think VT/Cincinnati is going to be an interesting game.

[Matthean]

No clue on the MSU/OSU game. Likely loser is those watching it. Wisconsin plays Nebraska and Michigan plays Purdue in other key Big Ten games.

[Passacaglia]

Excited for Big Ten conference play to start.

[Ksyrup]

Joe Schad ‏<S>@</S>schadjoe
Michigan announced that Notre Dame cancelled its football series for 2015, 2016 and 2017. ND will have 5 ACC games to play then.

[Scoobz0202]

No clue on the MSU/OSU game. Likely loser is those watching it.

Pretty much. If Ohio State has the slow start they've been having all season they could get their ass kicked.

Or Michigan State could not show up and we are in for a shit show.

[Logan]

Damn. The bye week started out great for Rutgers, getting ranked. Now learned that starting FB Michael Burton is out for the year.

[Butter]

As long as it's not a replay of last year's OSU/MSU game, it should be a good game. I would've expected MSU to win, but frankly they have looked like ass the first few weeks. OSU hasn't been lighting the world on fire... so we'll see.

[Matthean]

Joe Schad ‏<S>@</S>schadjoe
Michigan announced that Notre Dame cancelled its football series for 2015, 2016 and 2017. ND will have 5 ACC games to play then.

During the game when when they talked to ND's AD, you got the sense that the Big Ten was screwed by ND going to the ACC, but the AD didn't want to flat out say it. I'm sure MSU and Purdue will get cut back as well.

[Logan]

Rutgers will gladly take those spots.

[dawgfan]

As much as I'd like to think that Washington will rise up and break their recent string of sucktitude vs. Stanford, this is not a good match-up for the Huskies. Our OL is in shambles; in the off-season, we figured on 4 returning starters:

LG - RS-So Colin Tanigawa (returning from an ACL tear)
C - RS-Sr Drew Schaefer
RG - Jr Colin Porter
RT - Jr Erik Kohler

Since then, the following has happened:

Colin Porter - retired due to degenerative shoulder condition
Colin Tanigawa - another knee injury, done for the season
Erik Kohler - dislocated his kneecap twice, out indefinitely
Ben Riva (RS-So) - won the RT job in Fall Camp, broke his forearm in the first game and is out for at least a few more weeks

That leaves the following OL to face Stanford's outstanding front 7:

LT - RS-So Micah Hatchie (first year starter)
LG - RS-Fr Dexter Charles
C - RS-Sr Drew Schaefer
RG - RS-So James Atoe (first significant action this year) OR Fr Shane Brostek
RT - RS-So Mike Criste (first significant action this year) OR Atoe

And there's only 1 additional player listed in the depth this week: RS-Fr Siusifa Tufunga.

Yikes.

It'll be a small miracle if the Huskies can generate any kind of running game, and Keith Price is probably going to be under major pressure all game long.

It's only slightly better on the other side of the ball. Washington's pass defense is vastly improved over last year, but the run defense is still very shaky. New DC Wilcox has been utilizing a 4-2-5 most of the year, with über-frosh Shaq Thompson playing a hybrid S/OLB role (officially termed the "nickel" back). I would expect they'll follow the Duke template and load the box to stop the run and dare Nunes and the Stanford receivers to beat man coverage with no safety help.

Our NT is beefy but young (So Danny Shelton); normally, Wilcox has flanked him with smaller DE like Andrew Hudson & Talia Crichton and a Rush end in Josh Shirley. These guys aren't bad at generating a pass rush, but against a decent OL, they can't hold up at the point of attack; Shirley especially is vulnerable to runs right at him. Wilcox can go big, swapping out Hudson or Crichton with a beefy DT like Semisi Tokolahi or Lawrence Lagafuaina and rotate MLB John Timu outside and bring in Thomas Tutogi to play the middle, but that alignment didn't do much better slowing down LSU than did the smaller, faster alignment.

At best, I could see our defense loading the box, slowing down the run game and our secondary playing well enough to keep Nunes from exploiting them, and our offense doing just enough with creative bubble screens and stretch plays to win a low-scoring game.

At worst, I could see another LSU-type steam-rolling.

Either way, I'll be there screaming my lungs out.

[tarcone]

Iowa gets undefeated Minnesota at home this week. Its time to bring Floyd home boys. He has been living in Minny way too long.

Ferentz feeling some pressure this season. This week has been particularly bad for the coach.

[markprior22]

So disappointed in the Hawkeyes. Defense just hasn't been up to par. Difficult to move forward with two new coordinators after having the old regime in place for over 10 yrs. Hope they can step up.

[tarcone]

Well, the fact that there is either little talent or undeveloped talent hasnt helped. But the game management is particularly bad without N Parker or K O'Keefe.

Here is a fun stat. Iowa has failed to cover 5 onsides kicks since 2005 and they all resulted in losses. 3 in the last 3 years.

[VPI97]

I think VT/Cincinnati is going to be an interesting game.

Cincy will destroy Tech...Hokies can't consistently run the ball (or pass it, for that matter) and are pretty bad at stopping the run. 31-16 Cincy.

[mauchow]

I hope the badgers can cover the 13 points on the road.

[Ksyrup]

Cincy will destroy Tech...Hokies can't consistently run the ball (or pass it, for that matter) and are pretty bad at stopping the run. 31-16 Cincy.

I hope not. ACC needs a decent win, and FSU needs good teams on its schedule.

[MrBug708]

Stanford isnt good at all. Neither is Keith Price.

[Lathum]

Stanford isnt good at all. Neither is Keith Price.

No QB is going to look good with the attrition we have had on the O-line. He didn't throw 33 TDs last year by mistake.

[Lathum]

Huge win. Pretty pumped right now.

[MrBug708]

That should keep Sark around for another year or more

[britrock88]

Jesse Palmer sure is wearing me thin. Overthrown fly routes? "The receiver didn't run through it."

[MrBug708]

It takes special talent to miss a TE who is 6'8 on an overthrow. Kevin Prince type of talent

[Karlifornia]

Bug, quit trolling. As a yuckla fan, you should know teams play bad games, especially on the road with a new qb.

[Karlifornia]

Oh, and toilolo slowed up on that int. It was mostly on him.

[MrBug708]

Bug, quit trolling. As a yuckla fan, you should know teams play bad games, especially on the road with a new qb.

Could be coaching too. I can see how they might assume they'd be able to beat the Washington D by essentially lining up 8 offensive linemen and pounding them with their running game.

[britrock88]

Oh, and toilolo slowed up on that int. It was mostly on him.

I'm also miffed that guys will intercept passes on 4th down and give up tens of yards of field position.

[Lathum]

I'm also miffed that guys will intercept passes on 4th down and give up tens of yards of field position.

This annoyed me too, especially from a veteran player. I have to remind myself that in the heat of the moment it is probably really hard to turn that instinct off.

[dawgfan]

Stanford isnt good at all. Neither is Keith Price.
Price was too antsy tonight, but keep in mind he's playing behind an extremely green OL right now. Not sure if you saw my post earlier in the thread, but our OL situation is as bad as UCLA had a few years back with all the injuries.

[dawgfan]

That should keep Sark around for another year or more
Much to your chagrin...

[booradley]

I think VT/Cincinnati is going to be an interesting game.

How fortuitous, as this is the game I will be attending this Saturday. Gobble gobble.

[MrBug708]

Much to your chagrin...

I just cant believe DG wanted Sark at one time!

[Matthean]

Because ugly Big Ten play wasn't enough.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/229225_10151086532599022_742542626_n.jpg

[ISiddiqui]

The Nebraska player looks like he has boobs.

[britrock88]

Don't know what Nebraska's doing. I like Wisconsin integrating their old "W" logo, but yeah, garish get-ups.

[dacman]

... and Michigan plays Purdue in other key Big Ten games.


Uh, that's next week.

[Matthean]

Uh, that's next week.

Swore I saw it on this week's as well. Hopefully more time for Robinson to get his head out from his ass, but I have little hope at this point.

[JPhillips]

Deathmatch between Iowa and Indiana for the I.

[cartman]

Sorry, BYU. 5 or 6 guys doing a haka isn't nearly as impressive as pretty much the entire Hawaii team doing a haka.

[bhlloy]

Nice to see the BYU guy laughing it up about the two guys he's sent to the hospital

[kingfc22]

2nd player for Hawaii to get carted off in the first quarter...

[kingfc22]

Nice to see the BYU guy laughing it up about the two guys he's sent to the hospital

Seriously

[MacroGuru]

Nice to see the BYU guy laughing it up about the two guys he's sent to the hospital

I dont think he was laughing at the injuries. The first one was innocent, guys back gave out. Second the both came at each other.

[tarcone]

WEISMAN FOR HEISMAN!

Over 100 yards rushing in the 1st quarter. Just scored a TD. Thats his 7th for the season.

A former walk-on back up FB turned feature RB.

[tarcone]

Iowa just scores on a 60 yard flea flicker to go up 17-0.

Go Hawks!

[tarcone]

Iowa TD!

Iowa ahead 24-0! Where has this team been all season?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Late in the first half, GT trails MTSU at home 21-14.

[Matthean]

Nice to see WVU got the Big 12 memo on offense being required and defense being optional.

[JPhillips]

First to 100 wins in the WVU/Baylor game.

[Julio Riddols]

WVU/Baylor has been awesome to watch.

[bronconick]

Anyone take the under of 83.5 at the WVU-Baylor game?

Didn't think so.

[tarcone]

Iowa up 24-0 at half.
Weisman has 165 yards rushing and 1 TD. This guy is amazing.

[tarcone]

Gino Smith is awesome

[sterlingice]

No kidding. No defense but it's awesome fun :D

SI

[sterlingice]

Baylor QB with 321 yards and 2 TDs at the half. WVU QB "only" has 288 yards but 4 TDs. I'd take either of those totals for the game from Drew Brees in fantasy tomorrow :)

SI

[BillJasper]

Florence was past the line of scrimmage on the TD pass.

[Atocep]

A young defense and a new scheme. WVU fans expected the defense to be pretty bad this year. Next year the defense should be better, but we're breaking in a new QB.

Geno, Tavon, and Stedman Bailey are 3 of the best players in college football though. They've been fun to watch.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT-MTSU tied at 21 at the half. The mighty Al Groh defense allowed 285 yards in the first half.

[Atocep]

Florence was past the line of scrimmage on the TD pass.

I agree, but I'm biased. The closest replay view showed his foot was past the line of scrimmage IMO. No idea why they kept showing the wider angles.

[Matthean]

Miami's only loss this year is that blowout by KSU. Miami @ ND next week will be interesting.

[tarcone]

So Iowa has been running the ball down Minnys throat. We get a fumble on our 45. 3 straight terrible passes where our QB cant read a blitz and we punt. Stupid.

[BillJasper]

I agree, but I'm biased. The closest replay view showed his foot was past the line of scrimmage IMO. No idea why they kept showing the wider angles.

Well the ball was across the LOS when he let it go.

I don't have a dog in this fight as I'm just watching what looked to be the best game on.

[cartman]

Well the ball was across the LOS when he let it go.

I don't have a dog in this fight as I'm just watching what looked to be the best game on.

Doesn't matter where the ball is. They changed the rule a couple of years ago where all that matters is some part of the body is on or behind the line of scrimmage.

[BillJasper]

Doesn't matter where the ball is. They changed the rule a couple of years ago where all that matters is some part of the body is on or behind the line of scrimmage.

That's a stupid rule change. If that's the case, then they should make it where all the defense has to do is keep a part of the body out of the end zone to prevent a touchdown.

[Abe Sargent]

Holy Crap this WVU Baylor gaame is stunningly awesomne

[JonInMiddleGA]

MTSU leads GT 35-21 going to the 4th quarter. Their scoring drives so far
Drive info: 12 plays, 75 yds in 5:09
Drive info: 11 plays, 69 yds in 4:56
Drive info: 12 plays, 88 yds in 4:40
Drive info: 5 plays, 68 yds in 2:43
Drive info: 1 plays, 75 yds in 0:11

Now make it 35-28 MTSU btw.

[Abe Sargent]

Are you kidding me?


EDIT _ Geno's pass was in-cray-ahh-ble

[BillJasper]

Geno Smith sure does throw a pretty deep ball.

It was funny, I was thinking about Jeff Blake when the announcers brought him up.

[sterlingice]

56-42 now in the 3rd quarter

SI

[Matthean]

I wish Barkley luck in trying to win the Heisman. Unless WVU falls apart, it's Geno's to lose.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, this is getting comical. Down 42-28 with 6 to play, GT tries to rally. They get to the 35, and this is what follows
1st and 10 at MTU 35 Tevin Washington sacked by Leighton Gasque for a loss of 7 yards to the MTnSt 42.
2nd and 17 at MTU 42 Tevin Washington pass incomplete to Jeff Greene.
3rd and 17 at MTU 42 Tevin Washington pass incomplete to Jeff Greene, broken up by Kenneth Gilstrap.
4th and 17 at MTU 42 GEORGIA TECH penalty 5 yard delay of game on Tevin Washington accepted.
4th and 22 at MTU 47 Tevin Washington sacked by Leighton Gasque for a loss of 10 yards to the GTech 43.

Against MIDDLE FUCKING TENNESSEE STATE !

MTSU 468 total offense to 364 for GT.

How Al Groh still has a job after this game can only be explained by the lack of cash to buy him out. Ditto for Paul FuckingFatAssFucktard Johnson.

[bob]

Okay, this is getting comical. Down 42-28 with 6 to play, GT tries to rally. They get to the 35, and this is what follows
1st and 10 at MTU 35 Tevin Washington sacked by Leighton Gasque for a loss of 7 yards to the MTnSt 42.
2nd and 17 at MTU 42 Tevin Washington pass incomplete to Jeff Greene.
3rd and 17 at MTU 42 Tevin Washington pass incomplete to Jeff Greene, broken up by Kenneth Gilstrap.
4th and 17 at MTU 42 GEORGIA TECH penalty 5 yard delay of game on Tevin Washington accepted.
4th and 22 at MTU 47 Tevin Washington sacked by Leighton Gasque for a loss of 10 yards to the GTech 43.

Against MIDDLE FUCKING TENNESSEE STATE !

MTSU 468 total offense to 364 for GT.

How Al Groh still has a job after this game can only be explained by the lack of cash to buy him out. Ditto for Paul FuckingFatAssFucktard Johnson.

I have to admit that once they went down 2 TDs I was hoping that Tech wouldn't come back to win. I didn't want people to fail to admit that the CPJ experience has failed. Sadly, we still owe him something like $17 million, plus the basketball arena expansion, plus what we owe Paul Hewitt. He's not going anywhere for at least another season I fear.

[JonInMiddleGA]

TD MTSU, Blue Raiders by 21 now. 49-28.

Words really aren't sufficient. Those that come close have a good chance of starting with the letter "F".

I could strangle that miserable sonofabitch with my bare hands right now.

[tarcone]

Whew. Iowa was miserable on offense in the 2nd half but the defense was stout.
Iowa wins 31-13 and gets Floyd of Rosadale!

http://www.chicagoreader.com/binary/d705/1348690836-floyd.jpg

[Atocep]

Williams ran his route out of bounds on the catch + PI play.

[Abe Sargent]

Zang!

[fpres]

Some brilliant play by Johnny Manziel today. With about 8 minutes to go, he's put up 453 yds and 3 TD on 29-of-38 passing, 104 yds/1 TD rushing (probably more than half on busted plays). He's still just 4 games into his college career, but Texas A&M has to be excited about having this guy around for a couple of years.

[BillJasper]

Absolutely no defense in the Baylor-West Virginia game.

[dawgfan]

I wish Barkley luck in trying to win the Heisman. Unless WVU falls apart, it's Geno's to lose.
Pretty sure Barkley's chances died vs. Stanford.

[BillJasper]

What a catch by Woods of West Virginia!

[miami_fan]

Absolutely no defense in the Baylor-West Virginia game.

Crappy beta testers

[BillJasper]

If Geno Smith gets comfortable taking snaps from under center, he's likely the #1 pick in the NFL Draft.

[Solecismic]

What a catch by Woods of West Virginia!

Woods is 13-114-1 today. You'd think that's decent production from your top receiver.

Not today. WVU's Tevon Bailey is 13-207-2 and Stedman Bailey is 13-303-5. Terrance Williams of Baylor is 17-314-2.

Did they agree before the game not to use cornerbacks?

[Atocep]

If Geno Smith gets comfortable taking snaps from under center, he's likely the #1 pick in the NFL Draft.

He took snaps from under center his freshman and sophomore years at WVU. I don't think it'll be too hard for him to adjust.

[BillJasper]

Woods is 13-114-1 today. You'd think that's decent production from your top receiver.

Not today. WVU's Tevon Bailey is 13-207-2 and Stedman Bailey is 13-303-5. Terrance Williams of Baylor is 17-314-2.

Did they agree before the game not to use cornerbacks?

Starting to turn into Arena ball.

[cartman]

That WVU-Baylor game reminded me of the TCU-Baylor game last season.

[BillJasper]

He took snaps from under center his freshman and sophomore years at WVU. I don't think it'll be too hard for him to adjust.

I've seen him do it before but I think scouts will be comparing productivity from under center vs. shotgun/pistol. Are his pre-reads as good? How is he on the drop back and is he fluid getting the ball off as he hits his back foot?

He's a hell of a player.

[timmynausea]

As a WVU fan, it already felt like everybody was talking about the WVU game and Geno's stats, but I knew it was officially everyone when LeBron James tweeted about it 3 times.

Man Geno Smith is RIDICULOUS out there man!!! 38-43 577yrs with 7TD's. And there is still 10 mins left. Smh!!

LeBron James (KingJames) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/kingjames)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Georgia has 159 yards total offense in the first 6 1/2 minutes ... but it's only 14-7 thanks to a pick six thrown by Aaron Murray.

[larrymcg421]

Miami gives NC State every opportunity to win the game with a combination of failing to take advantage of turnovers, three missed FG's, and stupid penalties. Then with 19 seconds left, Morris scrambles for a bit and NC State's secondary falls asleep and lets Dorsett get behind them for a 62 yard TD to win it.

[Julio Riddols]

Geno is so accurate it's stunning. It'll be interesting to see what a good defense does against him, but many of those throws today couldn't have been defended.

[larrymcg421]

Also, Stephen Morris threw for 566 yards which is a Canes record.

[kcchief19]

The only negative you can really say about Geno Smith today is that Nick Florence almost matched him today. I don't see how Geno isn't the No. 1 QB off the draft board. Barkley isn't Luck, but I think Geno is Robert Griffin III.

Missouri slopped their way to a win over UCF. UCF is going to be a good team, and I think they will do well in whatever conference they end up in. O'Leary is a good coach, and they have talent.

[Atocep]

Miami gives NC State every opportunity to win the game with a combination of failing to take advantage of turnovers, three missed FG's, and stupid penalties. Then with 19 seconds left, Morris scrambles for a bit and NC State's secondary falls asleep and lets Dorsett get behind them for a 62 yard TD to win it.

NC State did a good job containing him today, but Duke Johnson is the best freshman I've seen so far this season.

[Matthean]

I see the potential for offense with OSU and MSU, but it's just the misfires that keep either team from doing much. There's not a a WR on either team that would scare me either.

[Matthean]

Geno is so accurate it's stunning. It'll be interesting to see what a good defense does against him, but many of those throws today couldn't have been defended.

Only watched the highlights, but Baylor's defense was a joke.

[JonInMiddleGA]

20 points in the final 5 minutes of the first half, it's 30-27 Tennessee.

Damn but it sure has gotten quiet on my FB wall :D

Make it 30-30 at the break.

[Danny]

Only watched the highlights, but Baylor's defense was a joke.

There are NFL Qb's who couldnt hit 45-51 with NO defenders.

[BillJasper]

Only watched the highlights, but Baylor's defense was a joke.

The guy had more TD's than incompletions. I imagine its tough to play at that level the entire sixty minutes and the way Baylor was scoring, every drive was important and Smith made sure each one counted. That was what impressed me.

[JPhillips]

Braxton Miller is what I hoped T. Pryor would be. I hope I get to watch him for two more years.

[cartman]

There has been a distinct lack of defense in quite a few games today. A lot of shootouts.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm starting to wonder if UT & UGA watched the Baylor-WVU game.

[cuervo72]

What the heck is the sideline reporter for this game wearing? Side view of an interview looked like she had genie sleeves on. Really isn't any professionalism in sideline reporting anymore, is there.

[Atocep]

I'm starting to wonder if UT & UGA watched the Baylor-WVU game.

If they did they didn't take very good notes. They're still under 1k yards of combined offense.

[JonInMiddleGA]

AT 51-44, UGA-TN is currently the seventh-highest scoring game in SEC history, fifth-highest involving two SEC teams. That's with 9 mins remaining.

[Atocep]

Holy Shit Munchie Legaux!

[cuervo72]

TOWSON is playing LSU? You gotta be kidding me.

[sterlingice]

TOWSON is playing LSU? You gotta be kidding me.

Don't you mean: "LSU scheduled Towson? You gotta be kidding me."

SI

[tarcone]

That was an amzing ending for Cinci. Good stuff.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And when all that's said & done, the only thing different about UT now versus when they got off the bus today is yet another SEC loss. And now just one loss away from putting an end to the CDD mistake.

A decent team wins that game, plain & simple.

[timmynausea]

I'll assume the Miami N.C. State game today wasn't sold out:

http://i.imgur.com/wMW1W.png

[CU Tiger]

Jon, honest opinion.
How many points are scored between Clemson and GT next week.
If the over under is double digits, Im not sure I wont take the over.

[CU Tiger]

I'll assume the Miami N.C. State game today wasn't sold out:

http://i.imgur.com/wMW1W.png

I dont think UM has EVER sold a game out in the new OB...

[Big Fo]

South Carolina already down 17-7 and Kentucky has 1st and goal with a minute left in the first half.

edit: They escape further peril as Kentucky blows 30 seconds then on third down Kentucky fumbles but their own player recovers and advances to the one yard line. The clock ran out before Kentucky could run another play.

[Danny]

Jon, honest opinion.
How many points are scored between Clemson and GT next week.
If the over under is double digits, Im not sure I wont take the over.

I think betting on 10 or more points is pretty safe.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Jon, honest opinion.
How many points are scored between Clemson and GT next week.
If the over under is double digits, Im not sure I wont take the over.

Somewhere between 63-75 would be my guess.

I honestly think GT is done, I look for them to fold the tents from here on out.

[BillJasper]

Them are some ugly uniforms Wisconsin-Nebraska are wearing tonight.

[mauchow]

Them are some ugly uniforms Wisconsin-Nebraska are wearing tonight.

Definitely keeps making me say "WTF, am I sure I'm watching the right game..." every so often.

[mauchow]

Abbrederis is a stud. He could be a decent pro.

[General Mike]

Louisville is gonna lose.

[Bigsmooth]

So glad I've seen Erin Andrews naked.

[CU Tiger]

I think betting on 10 or more points is pretty safe.

Read again...if the o/u is ANYTHING in double digits, including 99 Im still taking the over.

[mauchow]

Home cooking in Nebraska. 15 yard helmet to helmet hit (wasn't, it was shoulder to shoulder, just got ROCKED) and then a non-call holding(actually it was a tackle from behind by the RT on the DE) on the right tackle allowing Martinez to score...

All right Badgers, answer back now. Need a field goal at a minimum so I can breathe again.

[mauchow]

Ah, christ, the 3rd and 1 continues to haunt the Badgers this year. They come up short yet again. Happened about 20 times against the Beavers and hopefully it doesn't come back to haunt us tonight.

[mauchow]

Nebraska cuts it to three. This isn't looking good with the momentum fully in Nebraska's direction.

[mauchow]

Aye aye aye. Canada not mixing it up on first down for the Badgers is going to cost us. Relying on a freshman to make plays on second and third down and long is a recipe for disaster in a hostile environment.

[MrBug708]

Brett Hundley is good. Playing behind four new Offensive Linemen this year and plays well despite it

CU is not

[CU Tiger]

Brett Hundley is good. Playing behind four new Offensive Linemen this year and plays well despite it

CU is not

What's I do?

[Matthean]

What's I do?

I think he means Colorado.

MSU filed a complaint against OSU for doctoring game film that MSU requested from OSU. It's like MSU has to find something wrong with OSU in any dealing with them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2012/09/29/michigan-state-game-film-complaint-ohio-state-urban-meyer/1603531/

[mauchow]

And Nebraska takes their first lead of the game... 9 minutes to play. Wisconsin hasn't done anything since the T-Mart fumble to start the half.

[cartman]

Hell of a game in Stillwater tonight. Neither team was more than one score ahead the entire game. OSU took the lead late, but Texas drove down, picked up a 4th and 6, and ended up scoring the go ahead TD with less than a minute left. OSU made it interesting on the last play of the game with 5 or 6 laterals, but the ran out of space.

[mauchow]

Ah, fuck.

[Matthean]

I think this is where 'Bama shows how bored they are with their schedule.

[cuervo72]

Ole Miss' unis make them look either like they are playing in the rain or that they need a better brand of detergent.

[Atocep]

What the hell was up with the Ball fumble at the end of Wisconsin/Nebraska? It looked like Ball didn't make an attempt at taking the handoff and then made no attempt to recover the fumble.

[Matthean]

What the hell was up with the Ball fumble at the end of Wisconsin/Nebraska? It looked like Ball didn't make an attempt at taking the handoff and then made no attempt to recover the fumble.

Eyes were on the defender.

[MrBug708]

What's I do?

CU = Colorado

[mauchow]

Eyes were on the defender.

It was well mentioned after the game that it was supposed to be a naked bootleg QB keeper. Badgers have run the play well in the past and that was a perfect time for it except, well, you saw it.

[Matthean]

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/justin-wilcox-9-27-12.gif

[mauchow]

Is he pushing out a fart or holding back puke?

[CU Tiger]

CU = Colorado

I know...
In my drunken stupor, I thought it was funny in a _____ is love, _______ is not sort of parody way.

In morning sobriety light, yeah not so much.

[gstelmack]

And when all that's said & done, the only thing different about UT now versus when they got off the bus today is yet another SEC loss. And now just one loss away from putting an end to the CDD mistake.

A decent team wins that game, plain & simple.

Neither team wanted to win that game, they both looked incredibly sloppy.

[dawgfan]

Is he pushing out a fart or holding back puke?

He was on local radio the next morning and explained that it's a nervous tick of his. I'm sure when he gets his first head coaching gig that this is going to lead to a lot of amusing shots of him on the sidelines...

[molson]

I wonder if a team has ever fallen out of one poll and entered the other poll in the same week, like Boise St. just did. You can only pull that off if you win in extremely unconvining fashion.

[Butter]

I think he means Colorado.

MSU filed a complaint against OSU for doctoring game film that MSU requested from OSU. It's like MSU has to find something wrong with OSU in any dealing with them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2012/09/29/michigan-state-game-film-complaint-ohio-state-urban-meyer/1603531/

Then that one kid tried to eye gouge the OSU defensive tackle in the pile... not sorry that the Bucks took Sparty down.

[Matthean]

Even though I don't exactly like the Spartans, I don't know where this program goes once their Jr. class graduates which I believe includes 50% of the starting offense and defense. It's the last class before Hoke came and when MSU was taking over the state in terms of recruiting. MSU recruiting base is Michigan and Ohio. Hoke has taken back the state, and Meyer will lock down Ohio. Even ND is recruiting in the top 10 now, and they are a QB away from being a legit Top 10 team although Rees might be that QB. It's going to be tough to have visions of Big Ten titles when you are pulling in classes around #40 when two other teams in your conference are pulling in Top 5-10. I can't wait for the flipping of the switch by Michigan though. I might feel bad for the MSU fan base, but I can't stand that coaching staff.

[BishopMVP]

Even ND is recruiting in the top 10 now, and they are a QB away from being a legit Top 10 team although Rees might be that QB.Golson (or Kiel) might be that QB with experience. Rees (or Hendrix) is not that QB, and will never be that QB.

[Matthean]

Golson (or Kiel) might be that QB with experience. Rees (or Hendrix) is not that QB, and will never be that QB.

Golson is going to have to flip a massive switch in terms of accuracy. I thought the issue with Rees was TOs which he seems to be not committing right now.

Looks like the only thing slowing down 'Bama is injuries.

Alabama Crimson Tide lose WR DeAndrew White for season with knee injury - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8448602/alabama-crimson-tide-lose-wr-deandrew-white-season-knee-injury)

Hart was heavily prized by Michigan, but it looks like his knees aren't holding up.

[BishopMVP]

Golson is going to have to flip a massive switch in terms of accuracy. I thought the issue with Rees was TOs which he seems to be not committing right now.

Looks like the only thing slowing down 'Bama is injuries.

Alabama Crimson Tide lose WR DeAndrew White for season with knee injury - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8448602/alabama-crimson-tide-lose-wr-deandrew-white-season-knee-injury)

Hart was heavily prized by Michigan, but it looks like his knees aren't holding up.Small sample size - Michigan was Golson's worst game, and 18 passes from Rees doesn't change what I've seen out of him the last 2 years. Rees also has a weak arm and no mobility. Golson has a strong arm and is the better athlete.

Bama recruiting-wise, I know RB isn't exactly a weak position right now, but Derrick Henry looks like a beast

[Matthean]

Small sample size - Michigan was Golson's worst game, and 18 passes from Rees doesn't change what I've seen out of him the last 2 years. Rees also has a weak arm and no mobility. Golson has a strong arm and is the better athlete.

He did little against MSU as well. I like a lot about him, but his accuracy just seems terrible right now and that's why Rees gets subbed in.

[BishopMVP]

He did little against MSU as well. I like a lot about him, but his accuracy just seems terrible right now and that's why Rees gets subbed in.He wasn't asked to do much against MSU - first road start vs. a good D/top 10 team, and we got an early lead. Purdue was the other game Rees went in (and the one game I didn't see), but I do believe the story that he was pulled for an injured thumb, since there was no talk of Rees starting the next game. Rees got subbed in vs. Michigan because of the multiple turnovers (and in particular the red zone one).

That's pretty much my argument though - that Golson *could* be a very good QB if he improves with experience - even if Rees eliminates turnovers he will never be more than a game manager. Whether ND actually needs a great QB to be a top 10 team this year is a different question, as the 3 hyped teams left on the schedule (Stanford, Oklahoma, USC) have all shown huge flaws already. On the other hand, they haven't faced a team that can pass on the depleted secondary yet, so I'll see how they do vs. Miami tomorrow before offering any predictions. Either way, with all the questions coming into the season, 2 losses and a BCS berth would be a pretty big success, so it feels great to be having this discussion instead of lamenting multiple early-seasons losses vs. Big Ten teams we coulda/shoulda won.