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Subby
09-27-2012, 03:23 PM
It's about time we brought some justice to this here outpost of Internet society. Let's get mobilized people! Aren't you tired of being tread on? AREN'T YOU TIRED OF SOULLESS MODERATION????

GO!GO!GO!
http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/Subby/fofc.png

Ben E Lou
09-27-2012, 03:31 PM
BEN R EMPLOYEE OF OS!!! CONTACT THEM AND GET HIM FIRED!!!!1

cartman
09-27-2012, 03:32 PM
Ben, tell us about SkyDog.

Ben E Lou
09-27-2012, 03:35 PM
Ben, tell us about SkyDog.:thumbsup:

digamma
09-27-2012, 03:37 PM
Now, that's a cool image.

jeff061
09-27-2012, 03:37 PM
The FOFC sewing circle is on facebook?

stevew
09-27-2012, 03:39 PM
Doesn't this violate the long established rule of not posting messages from people that are in the box?

I think the replacement refs would get this call correct.

molson
09-27-2012, 03:42 PM
I'm so confused.

Antmeister
09-27-2012, 03:43 PM
Oh geez. The good ol' fashioned FOFC dramas are back. It's been a while since I tuned in this channel. Hopefully it is going to be a bit better than season 6.

CU Tiger
09-27-2012, 03:45 PM
So in the thread we mock people who are physically restrained from defending themselves?

A hardy gang, we are.

Carry on.

wade moore
09-27-2012, 03:46 PM
So in the thread we mock people who are physically restrained from defending themselves?

A hardy gang, we are.

Carry on.

The irony of this post is awesome.

MacroGuru
09-27-2012, 03:48 PM
What a fucking Troll you are Subby, trying to stir shit up..and you are doing a good job at it...

I like the fact you are posting a pic Ben has deleted a few times too..

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Random Thoughts That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Go Here (http://osatwork.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2721094&postcount=9981)

digamma
09-27-2012, 03:51 PM
I like the fact you are posting a pic Ben has deleted a few times too..

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Random Thoughts That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Go Here (http://osatwork.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2721094&postcount=9981)

This has been handled.

spleen1015
09-27-2012, 03:51 PM
Subby is the bestest shit-stirrer I know.

MikeVic
09-27-2012, 03:51 PM
I'm not getting involved in FOFC drama or whatever anymore, the crap with this board has made me distance myself from before... but I don't think it's cool to post real names here (the fb stuff form the first post).

spleen1015
09-27-2012, 03:52 PM
This has been handled.

Not if he wasn't boxed. :D

Blackadar
09-27-2012, 03:52 PM
To: Daniel and Co.

It could be worse. I could still be the owner & moderator of the site. I'm like a replacement ref compared to Ben's Ed Hochuli moderating. Count your fucking blessings.

Sincerely,

Blackadar

MacroGuru
09-27-2012, 03:54 PM
Not if he wasn't boxed. :D

Which I agree with....

Ben has deleted the picture twice, Digamma a 3rd....and Ben smacked DanGarion for a week due to it....but then again...I don't expect anything to happen because of it.

Kodos
09-27-2012, 03:54 PM
FOFC - Love it, or leave it!

spleen1015
09-27-2012, 03:54 PM
I'll be gone for about 3-4 hours. I hope there are more boxings and bans when I get back!

Sun Tzu
09-27-2012, 03:55 PM
Boooring. Can we get back to personal attacks and bitching about bikini pictures?

molson
09-27-2012, 03:55 PM
Maybe I'm overly restrained but don't think I'd ever use the words cunt lips or .001 diameter penis in a facebook post. Unless it's some kind of private group or something. Aren't your mothers and nephews on there?

JediKooter
09-27-2012, 03:55 PM
:popcorn: Really? No one has used this emoticon yet????

molson
09-27-2012, 03:56 PM
:popcorn: Really? No one has used this emoticon yet????

Hey, did you get that bowling ball yet? (Just making small talk while waiting for the next thing to happen).

Logan
09-27-2012, 03:56 PM
I'm assuming its the FOFC group. Which I think I'm a part of but don't post in if I am. I don't need anyone knowing that I communicate with you losers.

Lathum
09-27-2012, 03:57 PM
Maybe I'm overly restrained but don't think I'd ever use the words cunt lips or .001 diameter penis in a facebook post. Unless it's some kind of private group or something. Aren't your mothers and nephews on there?

As far as I know it is a private group.

I also agree that it isn't really cool to post real names on here without peoples permission.

JediKooter
09-27-2012, 03:57 PM
Hey, did you get that bowling ball yet? (Just making small talk while waiting for the next thing to happen).

No not yet. Though I'm hoping the guy that owns the shop will be at the bowling alley tonight (league night tonight) and I can do a 'fitting' or whatever it is called and have it by next week.

Easy Mac
09-27-2012, 03:58 PM
Am I the only one who has no idea what's going on?

Also, if Subby really wants to stir it up, just go edit random old posts with Giada pics, since they won't bump to the top like a new post would.

Kodos
09-27-2012, 04:00 PM
People really get upset about their god-given right to post progressively more risque pictures. They giddily tiptoe up to the line and then get upset when they are punished for going over it.

Oh, and yeah, the USC cheerleaders were pretty hot!

wade moore
09-27-2012, 04:01 PM
I'm not getting involved in FOFC drama or whatever anymore, the crap with this board has made me distance myself from before... but I don't think it's cool to post real names here (the fb stuff form the first post).

As far as I know it is a private group.

I also agree that it isn't really cool to post real names on here without peoples permission.

It was a public group until sometime in the last 24 hours, including a post that linked board names to facebook names - all public.

JonInMiddleGA
09-27-2012, 04:01 PM
I'd be more offended if I'd said much of anything there that I haven't said here at least publicly at least once.

Come to think of it, there seems to be pretty little said there that hasn't been said here in some form or fashion. A gossipy tidbit or two maybe but that's about it.

molson
09-27-2012, 04:03 PM
Oh, and yeah, the USC cheerleaders were pretty hot!

I missed them. I hope I can still find hot chicks on the internet somewhere.

JonInMiddleGA
09-27-2012, 04:03 PM
It was a public group until sometime in the last 24 hours, including a post that linked board names to facebook names - all public.

FWIW, I believe the switch to closed FB group (or whatever it's called) was pretty much done as a laugh in the midst of yesterday's boxings, etc. Or at least that's how I interpreted it (pretty sure I saw it happen within moments of it happening, I even typed a "LOL" at the time IIRC)

CU Tiger
09-27-2012, 04:03 PM
The irony of this post is awesome.

Ok...I don't do the facebook thing. Never have.
So I am assuming I missed something, and someone (Ben?) is banned/blocked from the FB group? (If that's even possible)

If so....then yeah I have a lot less of a problem with reciprocation though I think its chicken-shit on both sides.

<shrug>
Carry on.

wade moore
09-27-2012, 04:04 PM
FWIW, I believe the switch to closed FB group (or whatever it's called) was pretty much done as a laugh in the midst of yesterday's boxings, etc. Or at least that's how I interpreted it (pretty sure I saw it happen within moments of it happening, I even typed a "LOL" at the time IIRC)

Sure. Just saying any complaints about names being posted here fall on deaf ears with me when it was all public 24 hours ago including a link to board names, which that screenshot did not have.

Lathum
09-27-2012, 04:05 PM
It was a public group until sometime in the last 24 hours, including a post that linked board names to facebook names - all public.

I think Dang changed it to private at some point yesterday after all the drama went down, I dunno, don't care all that much, I just think it is kind of a dick move to post peoples names on here without asking them first. Violates the don't be an asshat rule IMO.

wade moore
09-27-2012, 04:06 PM
I think Dang changed it to private at some point yesterday after all the drama went down, I dunno, don't care all that much, I just think it is kind of a dick move to post peoples names on here without asking them first. Violates the don't be an asshat rule IMO.

Again - it was completely public 24 hours ago including a link to board names.

Now that within those 24 hours dangarion decided to make it private means that information is suddenly secret?

MacroGuru
09-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Again - it was completely public 24 hours ago including a link to board names.

Now that within those 24 hours dangarion decided to make it private means that information is suddenly secret?

Or that he knew people would be going off and not using choice words in FB and not wanting for it to spread throughout their FB circle set it to private.

I don't know...I am just taking a wild shot in the dark here.

Ryan S
09-27-2012, 04:11 PM
BEN R EMPLOYEE OF OS!!! CONTACT THEM AND GET HIM FIRED!!!!1

I think my OS paychecks have been lost in the post...

cartman
09-27-2012, 04:12 PM
I think my OS paychecks have been lost in the post...

They couldn't find anyone to convert them to pounds. Maybe if they would have asked someone besides the shipping department...

Glengoyne
09-27-2012, 04:13 PM
I missed them. I hope I can still find hot chicks on the internet somewhere.

Nope. When a mod deletes something here. It is gone for good.:)

MikeVic
09-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Ok then, I've left the fb group. If there is a link from fb to fofc, could someone remove me from it, thanks!

Sun Tzu
09-27-2012, 04:14 PM
Where's Hell Atlantic in all this mess? I blame him for whatever happened.

wade moore
09-27-2012, 04:16 PM
Or that he knew people would be going off and not using choice words in FB and not wanting for it to spread throughout their FB circle set it to private.

I don't know...I am just taking a wild shot in the dark here.

You're completely whiffing on my point.

You're up in arms about real names being public when it was all public for the last .. what.. 2 years - including a tie to username (which the above image does not have)?

Glengoyne
09-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Hey, doesn't this belong in the stupid Facebook posts thread?

Izulde
09-27-2012, 04:19 PM
It's still a dick move.

Antmeister
09-27-2012, 04:19 PM
And here we go....

Okay I am getting a bit lost in this episode. So there is a private Facebook group and knowing how Subby is, he was somehow invited to this private group and now people are upset he is being Subby.

And another part of the episode that confuses me is about this whole posting of names controversy. Are we saying that somehow a picture of a Facebook post is somehow going to cause search engines to know how to tie those names to FOFC profiles?

I'm sorry, I just had to ask because I am still trying to follow the plot.

JonInMiddleGA
09-27-2012, 04:20 PM
Violates the don't be an asshat rule IMO.

This.

In big bold red mega-font even.

Lathum
09-27-2012, 04:22 PM
You're completely whiffing on my point.

You're up in arms about real names being public when it was all public for the last .. what.. 2 years - including a tie to username (which the above image does not have)?

Actually Dang made the group "closed" 22 hours ago, Subbys post has comments from 6 hours ago, meaning he went into a PRIVATE group, copied poster real names, and put them here without their permission.

Logan
09-27-2012, 04:22 PM
I'm not one of those who posted there, but I think it's a dick move to post any messages that someone says over another medium to here, without them knowing.

wade moore
09-27-2012, 04:23 PM
Actually Dang made the group "closed" 22 hours ago, Subbys post has comments from 6 hours ago, meaning he went into a PRIVATE group, copied poster real names, and put them here without their permission.

Real names that were publicly available 24 hours ago. They became a state secret 22 hours ago?

Autumn
09-27-2012, 04:24 PM
Anybody in the FOFC Facebook group willingly connected their real name and account to their FOFC name, so I don't think we need to get up in arms about that part of it. It's not like someone else added all those people.

Autumn
09-27-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm not one of those who posted there, but I think it's a dick move to post any messages that someone says over another medium to here, without them knowing.

Correct, this is the dick move.

Anybody could have seen those names by simply joining the FOFC group which was created years ago and discussed on the board about a million times. It's not like it was a private club.

Lathum
09-27-2012, 04:30 PM
Real names that were publicly available 24 hours ago. They became a state secret 22 hours ago?

Who cares abou the timeframes? At the time he posted them they were from a closed group.

Lathum
09-27-2012, 04:33 PM
Anybody in the FOFC Facebook group willingly connected their real name and account to their FOFC name, so I don't think we need to get up in arms about that part of it. It's not like someone else added all those people.

I think the bigger point is that up until now people seemingly have been respectful of the fact that some of us here are FB friends and haven't crossed the two mediums. Now you can say that is on the person who friended someone from here on FB and that is the risk being taken. I still think it is a shitty thing to do and was clearly done as a trolling move.

Autumn
09-27-2012, 04:35 PM
But it doesn't have to do with FB friends. It has to do with the FOFC group on Facebook, which anybody could join, or choose not to join. So it seems to be joining was being willing to expose your real name to anyone who comes to FOFC. It's not like accepting a FB friend, you had no control over who else joined the group and therefore found out your identity. See what I mean?

EagleFan
09-27-2012, 04:40 PM
This thread has how many violations? Subby should be boxed for this. This is much worse than what I see was done in the images thread. It's about time common sense is used around here, and maybe a little common courtesy.

EagleFan
09-27-2012, 04:41 PM
But it doesn't have to do with FB friends. It has to do with the FOFC group on Facebook, which anybody could join, or choose not to join. So it seems to be joining was being willing to expose your real name to anyone who comes to FOFC. It's not like accepting a FB friend, you had no control over who else joined the group and therefore found out your identity. See what I mean?

Doesn't make Subby any less of a douchebag.

molson
09-27-2012, 04:42 PM
I could see people speaking differently in the facebook group than they would if they knew everything would be posted over here. Sure, if someone was committed they could just join and view both, but if someone was really committed, they could figure out my identity from what I've posted on this board, hide in my garage, and then bludgeon me with a crude ax-like instrument, but I just kind of assume that won't happen.

MacroGuru
09-27-2012, 04:43 PM
I could care less if my name is posted there..it's in my Sig. I gave up trying to hide behind a web name a long time ago.

Me being upset relates to the fact subby is stirring shit up to stir...being an asshat...period.

gstelmack
09-27-2012, 04:45 PM
They couldn't find anyone to convert them to pounds. Maybe if they would have asked someone besides the shipping department...

I could write a utility if we need one...

gstelmack
09-27-2012, 04:46 PM
Who cares abou the timeframes? At the time he posted them they were from a closed group.

It's on Facebook, privacy concerns were abandoned about the time it went up there.

Ryan S
09-27-2012, 04:52 PM
I could see people speaking differently in the facebook group than they would if they knew everything would be posted over here.

If you are posting to a FOFC Facebook group, you can't really be shocked if your comments find their way to the board, especially if you are posting something "controversial".

molson
09-27-2012, 04:55 PM
If you are posting to a FOFC Facebook group, you can't really be shocked if your comments find their way to the board, especially if you are posting something "controversial".

This is the first time I remember it happening. But, everyone in that position either isn't complaining, or is boxed, so it's probably no big deal if you're someone who posts about that stuff there.

Glengoyne
09-27-2012, 04:59 PM
So what happens on Facebook...Stays on Facebook?

I don't think that is how it works.

kcchief19
09-27-2012, 04:59 PM
In case some of you haven't learned it yet, there is no such thing as a private group on social media (or frankly anywhere else). If you post something on a public forum, don't be surprised if it doesn't stay private.

The only reason I can find anyone to be up in arms is I'd they try to hide their online identities from someone and are worried someone might connect the dots. If that's the case, message boards and social media may not be for you.

Danny
09-27-2012, 05:00 PM
Apparently many here at FOFC have had their periods synchronize.

Chubby
09-27-2012, 05:02 PM
So what happens on Facebook...Stays on Facebook?

I don't think that is how it works.

I don't think that's the argument. The argument is, this is a clear violation of the "don't be an asshat" rule in trying to troll and start drama.

I'll be waiting to see Subby's boxing.

Izulde
09-27-2012, 05:03 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure Subby won't be boxed. He's one of the pets.

molson
09-27-2012, 05:03 PM
In case some of you haven't learned it yet, there is no such thing as a private group on social media (or frankly anywhere else). If you post something on a public forum, don't be surprised if it doesn't stay private.

The only reason I can find anyone to be up in arms is I'd they try to hide their online identities from someone and are worried someone might connect the dots. If that's the case, message boards and social media may not be for you.

I'm not "surprised" when someone acts like an douche on social media, but one can still recognize that they're being an douche.

Chubby
09-27-2012, 05:03 PM
I think my OS paychecks have been lost in the post...

Why would you have gotten any paychecks?

Lathum
09-27-2012, 05:04 PM
I'm not "surprised" when someone acts like an douche on social media, but one can still recognize that they're being an douche.

this

MacroGuru
09-27-2012, 05:17 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure Subby won't be boxed. He's one of the pets.

I agree..

JediKooter
09-27-2012, 05:22 PM
This thread was started for one reason and one reason only and that was to start shit. Since Subby has chosen to basically do a 'drive by posting' and hasn't posted since his OP to explain his motives, we have to assume that his only motive was to stir up shit/drama. That clearly falls into the asshat/douche move category (which has been reason enough to get others boxed). I'm not asking for anyone to get boxed, I'm suggesting that this thread is useless to the community as a whole and should be dealt with appropriately. At the very least, this thread should be deleted as it does nothing positive that adds to the community here.

CU Tiger
09-27-2012, 05:24 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure Subby won't be boxed. He's one of the pets.

yep

I'm not "surprised" when someone acts like an douche on social media, but one can still recognize that they're being an douche.

and yep

JonInMiddleGA
09-27-2012, 05:24 PM
At the very least, this thread should be deleted as it does nothing positive that adds to the community here.

Kinda like the OP'er.

Sun Tzu
09-27-2012, 05:24 PM
I hear Subby is a truther.

cuervo72
09-27-2012, 05:26 PM
I think my OS paychecks have been lost in the post...

RYAN LOST POSTS! DOWN WITH OS!

kcchief19
09-27-2012, 05:30 PM
I'm not "surprised" when someone acts like an douche on social media, but one can still recognize that they're being an douche.
Don't bet on it. There are some pretty douchey users here complaining about douchery.

I don't care to soil the Threads image anymore than it has, so I'll post my final two cents and move on. You can't really ban people for asshatishness and douchebaggery when mods are committing those sins as well. And taking action without owning what you have done and providing any explanation or rules for the future are both of those things.

I know some mods have claimed they don't explain things because people still talk back. Frankly, the "boardmageddon" is twice as bad when you don't explain it. Unless it is hidden somewhere, we still don't know the precise reason why so many posts were deleted. The only remote reason I've seen given is that the images did not fit with the title thread. That's a bad reason.

Did they violate a specific board rule or term of service, and if so how? Were actions taken based on complaints, and if so what were the complaints? Was an individual mod offended by the images? Those are questions that deserve an answer.

Rather than taking unilateral and arbitrary action, what would have been the harm if the moderator(s) posted a stickied message across all forums that said images posted in certain threads, particularly the Cool Images thread, violate board guidelines? Posters have one week to edit inappropriate images from their posts or deletion my occur at the discretion of the mods.

It was said by someone I respect in the Images thread that if this leads to inconsistent modding, so be it. But I will bet the farm that more users have left this forum due to inconsistent modding than inappropriate images.

I disappeared from FOFC for a year or two because I was tired of the political arguments, the name calling and the asshatishness, none of which was moderated under control. I'm too old for this shit. I'll probably leave for good at some point, checking in occasionally to see if Jim has released a new game.

tarcone
09-27-2012, 05:31 PM
I think the fact that ben was the 1st to post a reply and did so in a douchey manner settles the question of a boxing.

JediKooter
09-27-2012, 05:32 PM
Kinda like the OP'er.

I'm sure there's probably some here that think the same about me. :)

Kodos
09-27-2012, 05:40 PM
And Jon.

And me.

molson
09-27-2012, 05:41 PM
Did they violate a specific board rule or term of service, and if so how? Were actions taken based on complaints, and if so what were the complaints? Was an individual mod offended by the images? Those are questions that deserve an answer.



Why is it so important? If I spent hours writing a dynasty or something and some mod dismissed it because he didn't like the content or something, I would be really pissed off. But if it's just some photo of a hot chick, or "kiddie feces" (seriously?) that just came from the internet somewhere, is it really that huge a problem?

They have stated the standard they use, it's a discretionary one, if they think it would cause a problem for someone in an office if someone else walks by, they delete it. Personally, I think it would be a lot better if they slapped a NSFW on the thread tittle and and a more distinct standard, like, no nudity, but whatever, it's not my board, and I really don't care whether there's a thread here that has hot chick pics or not. I know there's plenty of things I don't care about that other people do, so I'm not saying it's wrong to care, I'm just wondering if it's really that or if it's something else. Because there's been this years-long tension over this issue. I think it's fair to say at this point that any photo you post could be deleted. That really isn't THAT crazy a rule in the message board world, and maybe if the mods just laid it out like that there'd be less tension.

EagleFan
09-27-2012, 05:41 PM
I think the fact that ben was the 1st to post a reply and did so in a douchey manner settles the question of a boxing.

Sad but true. Lost some major respect for SD with that move.

Schmidty
09-27-2012, 06:23 PM
I'm in it. I don't care what people think. I think FOFC is becoming silly. Maybe it's time we all move on. I don't know.

That was my deep thought for the day.

Schmidty
09-27-2012, 06:25 PM
Dola.

I don't hate Subby. He's lie a fun little force of nature.

Suicane75
09-27-2012, 06:29 PM
White people problems.

MrBug708
09-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure Subby won't be boxed. He's one of the pets.
http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/corndog-photobomb.jpg

RedKingGold
09-27-2012, 08:03 PM
White people problems.

Winner. Lock the thread, it's over.

Dutch
09-27-2012, 08:25 PM
Apparently many here at FOFC have had their periods synchronize.

In before the lock, but this was the true thread winner. :)

Ben E Lou
09-27-2012, 08:55 PM
Some Francises around here need to lighten up. ;) Many of the responses posted there are pure comedy gold. Been out this evening. Tired. More in the morning.

PineTar
09-27-2012, 09:07 PM
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Cheerleader-Mankini-the-soup-414259_600_399.jpg

Desnudo
09-27-2012, 09:22 PM
Maybe I'm overly restrained but don't think I'd ever use the words cunt lips or .001 diameter penis in a facebook post. Unless it's some kind of private group or something. Aren't your mothers and nephews on there?

I don't know if I've ever used the words cunt lips period. I'm amazed people care that much about something so trivial.

claphamsa
09-27-2012, 09:28 PM
im gonna hump subby next time i see him.

EagleFan
09-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Subby's being an asshat troll.

Fidatelo
09-27-2012, 11:08 PM
I don't know if I've ever used the words cunt lips period. I'm amazed people care that much about something so trivial.

I remember this kid in high-school that used the phrase "clit licker" as his go to put down. He'd say it with a strange emphasis too, like "You clit lick-errrrr!". I never really understood why that was supposed to be an insult. We were all 16, if someone was actually licking clits they'd have been the coolest kid in the room!

Subby
09-27-2012, 11:20 PM
No hidden agenda here. Someone shared that FB thread with me and I thought it was funny, so I posted it here.

Internet message board anger is funny to me. SORRY.

WVUFAN
09-28-2012, 12:04 AM
Can I make a Sportsdigs joke now?

Dutch
09-28-2012, 12:17 AM
lolzcat

lmao!

cartman
09-28-2012, 12:18 AM
Can I make a Sportsdigs joke now?

Should have done it on 9/14

Schmidty
09-28-2012, 12:51 AM
No hidden agenda here. Someone shared that FB thread with me and I thought it was funny, so I posted it here.

Internet message board anger is funny to me. SORRY.

I'm not mad at you. We need to be buddies. FACEBOOK BUDDIES!!

Chubby
09-28-2012, 04:32 AM
Subby's being an asshat troll.

clear violation of the asshat rule

Senator
09-28-2012, 05:58 AM
I think FOF has a dependency on obtaining a stud QB and stud WR while having a mediocre RB is the consistent formula for success. Even defenses can be average as long as the first two areas are covered. I learned this while reading the Maximum Football thread.

Blackadar
09-28-2012, 06:40 AM
Subby's being an asshat troll.

And what are you being?

Butter
09-28-2012, 06:54 AM
I thought it was obvious that Subby was trying to be funny, especially noticing the thread title. Not sure why everyone got pissed?

Ben E Lou
09-28-2012, 07:02 AM
Some Francises around here need to lighten up. ;) Many of the responses posted there are pure comedy gold. Been out this evening. Tired. More in the morning.Got an email from one of the suspended people. Just wrote him back, and pretty much everything I have to say is in that email. Below is the relevant portion of it, with one minor correction for a grammatical error (context for a little bit: the person complained that RKG and Subby get free rides from me)Thanks for taking the time to write. With regards to pictures, the rules around those have been posted for at least nine years, probably longer than that. No, they're not always enforced consistently because of lack of ability to see everything, but the standard has never changed. I'm not going to get into the same tired arguments that have come up dozens and dozens of times, and that are even addressed in the post that I re-stickied yesterday. (i.e. "IF YOU DON'T LIKE HAWT CHIX PICS THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE READING THIS BOARD AT WORK!!!1 OMG WTF BBQ!!!!!111" This same foolishness came up yet again in the last few days. It always does. Asked and answered. Over and over.) If something is deleted for a different reason, I'll do my best to post why, though if I use my phone to do it (as happens from time to time), that's not going to happen immediately, and I might forget later.

Subby: I've suspended Subby in the past, and will do it again if he crosses the line. I just didn't find the posting he did yesterday to be harmful.

RKG: Not sure where this one comes from. My opinions regarding RKG's behavior aren't a secret to him or to anyone in FOF MP leagues with me. He is well aware that I even tried to get him to quit the leagues that he's in with me because of his behavior. As a commish, I've disallowed lopsided trading and predatorial behavior in which he has engaged. If I saw him cross the line at FOFC, he'd get a punishment there as well. But I'm not sure I recall a single instance of a post by him ever even being reported. (My guess is that somewhere in the 60-80% range of modding action at FOFC is the result of a reported post, but that probably only around half of reported posts get acted upon.)

Ultimately, even when I was reading nearly every thread at FOFC, my style as a mod has always been pretty hands-off, which also brings about frustration when I do decide that something needs to be done. People are used to getting away with stuff, and when they don't get away with it, they point to when users X, Y, and Z, who are known to be closer to Ben than others because of their FOF MP involvement, have never gotten punished for similar behavior. I'd be willing to bet, though, that we could find non-rock-the-boat guys whose user names aren't terribly familiar, and who have gotten away with the same behaviors. But because they're not high-profile users, people don't remember it.

I'm not looking for conflict. I'd prefer that I never had to do any modding whatsoever. FOFC is mostly self-policing. The big-time trolls like the Wignalls, Maximus, HM, druez, etc. have long been banned. I guess the good news is that anything we're seeing now is very minor compared to the days when I for some reason unknown to me tolerated those clowns rather than just summarily banning them like I should have.

jeff061
09-28-2012, 07:05 AM
Why are all you babies reporting so many posts.

Ben E Lou
09-28-2012, 07:27 AM
Why are all you babies reporting so many posts.To be clear, we don't get a ton of reported posts. There were 19 reported posts from January-August of this year, 2.375 per month. (Obviously the frequency has been up this month. ;)) At least 8 of those 19 were absolute no-brainers:

1. the one-post trolling asshat in the infidelity thread
2. hawt chick with completely naked butt exposed in the images thread
3. spambot
4. spambot
5. spambot
6. spambot
7. spambot
8. spambot

So we're down to only 11 reported posts in 8 months that weren't completely obvious, take-action-now situations. That's not exactly what I'd call a high volume. ;)

Chubby
09-28-2012, 08:26 AM
So clearly trolling no longer gets a boxing... got it.

MrBug708
09-28-2012, 08:34 AM
Only if you aren't popular :)

Logan
09-28-2012, 08:37 AM
I still love the fact that my sole boxing in 12 years on this board, plus the Sideline, came when I said that it was way over the top for SkyDog to state that "some people on this board disgust me".

Toddzilla
09-28-2012, 08:48 AM
Getting boxed is kinda like getting inducted to the hall of fame. You really have to be great to get in, but if your just pretty good saying "well so-and-so got in" isn't an argument that holds water.

That analogy made so much more sense a minute ago.

Sportsdigs (blah blah) 2 weeks ago

Chief Rum
09-28-2012, 08:54 AM
Ben, you're such a Patriotic Dictator sometimes.

Passacaglia
09-28-2012, 09:59 AM
No, they're not always enforced consistently because of lack of ability to see everything

This just seems like a cop-out to me. There's what, 10 moderators? And there's how many people that see every post in that thread? We can't find one person who's in both groups? Either a post is okay, or it isn't. This whole, "well, it's okay as long as a mod doesn't see it" doesn't work. If you truly want to avoid modding drama, define the rules. It'll be a weird couple weeks, but then this will all go away. Also, in a previous post you said you're not going to "bother with an explanation" for why a picture was deleted, a simple "pic deleted -- questionable" comment would have avoided all this nonsense. I'll admit that those who reposted it should have been able to put two and two together and figure it out, but again, if the idea is truly to avoid board drama, ten seconds goes a long way.

Passacaglia
09-28-2012, 10:02 AM
Can I make a Sportsdigs joke now?

Looks like some asshat named "Aaron Gage" already made one.

saldana
09-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Looks like some asshat named "Aaron Gage" already made one.

i was pretty disappointed in the FB group that it took so long!

RedKingGold
09-28-2012, 10:59 AM
FWIW, I agree with Ben's assessment of our relationship. And, for the record, I did receive a one-day boxing for something a few years ago.

Honolulu_Blue
09-28-2012, 11:03 AM
FWIW, I agree with Ben's assessment of our relationship. And, for the record, I did receive a one-day boxing for something a few years ago.

Huh. I would have figured all of that mutual ass tasting over the years would have brought you two closer together.

I hate it when porn lies to me.

RedKingGold
09-28-2012, 11:04 AM
I have a low filter and my competitive instincts get the best of me somtimes, that's all you really need to know.

Dutch
09-28-2012, 11:13 AM
It's those competative qualities that we hate in RKG that also produces some of the great insight into FOF. So to be fair, it's more accurately a love-hate relationship, honestly. I mean, if you enjoy FOF that is.

Glengoyne
09-28-2012, 11:25 AM
I'm not mad at you. We need to be buddies. FACEBOOK BUDDIES!!


Am I the only one who thought that Subby was Schmidty? I can't keep you all straight.

GoldenEagle
09-28-2012, 11:44 AM
I have no clue who is who in the original post.

korme
09-28-2012, 12:45 PM
This thread says so much

Schmidty
09-28-2012, 02:05 PM
Am I the only one who thought that Subby was Schmidty? I can't keep you all straight.

Every time I see your name, I almost fall off the wagon.

DaddyTorgo
09-29-2012, 12:30 AM
This just seems like a cop-out to me. There's what, 10 moderators? And there's how many people that see every post in that thread? We can't find one person who's in both groups? Either a post is okay, or it isn't. This whole, "well, it's okay as long as a mod doesn't see it" doesn't work. If you truly want to avoid modding drama, define the rules. It'll be a weird couple weeks, but then this will all go away. Also, in a previous post you said you're not going to "bother with an explanation" for why a picture was deleted, a simple "pic deleted -- questionable" comment would have avoided all this nonsense. I'll admit that those who reposted it should have been able to put two and two together and figure it out, but again, if the idea is truly to avoid board drama, ten seconds goes a long way.

This. I feel like if you don't take the time to explain so people can learn where the line is, then it shouldn't cause a boxing. That's why people get up in arms...cuz it seems like they're being boxed for no reason they can figure out.