Political Compass - where does yours point?

[Marc Vaughan]

I came across this earlier today and thought it was fascinating ... especially as my politics are somewhat diamtrically opposed to most American politicians, most English people I've seen do this have come up in the same 'sector' as mine and I was wondering where the chaps here would pop-up.

Take the Test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/test)

Political Compass - Marc Vaughan (http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform&Rick+Santorum=7%2C8.5%2C-115&Newt+Gingrich=8%2C7.5&Mitt+Romney=7%2C6.5%2C7%2C10&Ron+Paul=9%2C-1%2C10%2C10&Barack+Obama=6%2C6%2C-118%2C10&You=-5.62%2C-4.41)

[Flasch186]

mine

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-2.62&soc=-2.41

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-2.62&soc=-2.41)

[Dutch]

When did they administer these tests to Romney and Obama?

[Ryan S]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=7.00&soc=4.36

I always find these tests don't really represent my position well due to the lack of "Don't care" options in some of the questions that will make a big difference to the results.

I really don't care about religion or homosexuality, but the questions want me to come down on a particular side of the fence.

My thoughts on abortion are that it should be frowned upon, but not illegal as long as it is carried out early in the pregnancy. I can't understand why this is such a huge issue in the US, and the left wing celebration of abortion is not attractive. Sadly I don't have an option to enter this as an answer.

[Desnudo]

About what I thought

http://imageshack.us/a/img193/8725/pcgraphpngphpz.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/pcgraphpngphpz.png/)

[JPhillips]

Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

[AlexB]

Crowd Chart (http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform=&Rick+Santorum=7%2C8.5%2C-115&Newt+Gingrich=8%2C7.5&Mitt+Romney=7%2C6.5%2C7%2C10&Ron+Paul=9%2C-1%2C10%2C10&Barack+Obama=6%2C6%2C-118%2C10&You=-1.75,-3.28)

I reckon that's about right, despite similar concerns to Ryan about some of the options

[fpres]

Heh.

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.88&soc=0.00)

[tarcone]

Here 1 am:

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-3.00&soc=-0.77)

[Marc Vaughan]

I'm surprised how left leaning people are generally (and also that fairly few appear to be libertarian, I've never thought of myself as overly that way - but I seem to lean there more than most).

[MacroGuru]

Here is my graph...

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=0.50&soc=-2.15)

[lungs]

Mine (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-3.75&soc=-5.08)

[Tigercat]

Marc, I am almost exactly (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-5.50&soc=-4.36)in the same position as you. Should I move to England as part of some utopian hippie exchange program?

[sterlingice]

I'm pretty sure we've done this before.

I'm at -7.38/-4.26, which is basically about where Gandhi hangs out. That's interesting as I used to be less left but was more authoritarian.

Also, I'm like Ryan where I have some issues with some of these issues being real non-starters to me but I have to pick one or another. There's no "don't care/non-issue" option and I think that would severely influence the results. There's also some real bias as to how these results are calculated. How does one explain that religious "conservatism" and support of corporations is "right" leaning, for instance, considering they have very little in common in other political systems and are quite contradictory. It's very American based.

SI

[sterlingice]

determining your politcal views/classification? - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=21075)

SI

[Coffee Warlord]

As usual. Smidge to the right, 'bout 1/3-1/2 of the way down on the libertarian side.

[Young Drachma]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.75&soc=-6.97

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

The glacial shift continues leftward...

[BrianD]

Here is my graph...

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform=&Rick+Santorum=7%2C8.5%2C-115&Newt+Gingrich=8%2C7.5&Mitt+Romney=7%2C6.5%2C7%2C10&Ron+Paul=9%2C-1%2C10%2C10&Barack+Obama=6%2C6%2C-118%2C10&You=-5.50,-4.51)

[Draft Dodger]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.75&soc=-4.62

I am Ghandi

[DanGarion]

I'm just like the Dalai Lama.

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-3.62&soc=-4.15)

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.62&soc=-4.15

[SirFozzie]

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-3.12&soc=-4.00)

Economic Left/Right: Left 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: Liberterian 4.00

[Julio Riddols]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.75&soc=-4.67

Very Ghandi-esque myself.

[JetsIn06]

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.62&soc=-4.72)

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.62&soc=-4.72

[sabotai]

As usual. Smidge to the right, 'bout 1/3-1/2 of the way down on the libertarian side.

About the same here. One line over to the right, and 6 lines down (out of 10) for Libertarian.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm nothing if not consistent. These tests are, of course, imperfect but they're at least generally interesting.

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.21
(My pro-choice stance tends to drop me a little on the SL/A scale)

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=7.12&soc=6.21)
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=7.12&soc=6.21

[Dutch]

I'm nothing if not consistent. These tests are, of course, imperfect but they're at least generally interesting.

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.21
(My pro-choice stance tends to drop me a little on the SL/A scale)

Political Compass Printable Graph (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=7.12&soc=6.21)
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=7.12&soc=6.21

You are still further to the left than Obama!

[SackAttack]

You are still further to the left than Obama!

LOL!

[JonInMiddleGA]

You are still further to the left than Obama!

See: imperfect, these tests are ;)

[AENeuman]

I have given this test to over 500 seniors in my goverment classes over the years, and it's always the same results. Each time the vast majority of the class is in a small cluster in the upper right corner of the green sector.

Looking at how far romney and obama are from their belifs, this becomes a great way for me to show why the youth don't vote and feel unrepresented.

I tell them as they get older and start getting real paychecks they will move from: how they think the government should be, to: how come the government takes so much of my money

[Marc Vaughan]

I tell them as they get older and start getting real paychecks they will move from: how they think the government should be, to: how come the government takes so much of my money

I find it interesting that Jon is the closest to the 'mainstream' political people out of all of those I've seen posting their results here so far and most here appear to have similar results to the 'youth' you refer to.

Whether this is 'typical' for America is hard to determine it could be that this forum is far more liberal than most .... but its interesting all the same.

(my personal gut-instinct is that there is a common mis-connect between what politicians implement and what the 'people' really want - this is one of the reasons why people are cynical about politicians)

[sterlingice]

I think it's more a flaw of the test, frankly

SI

[Marc Vaughan]

I think it's more a flaw of the test, frankly

Could be - most people came out far more left leaning that I expected ... more data required.

(I was also surprised I am apparently so libertarian myself ;) )

[JonInMiddleGA]

Another common flaw to these tests is finding the balance between what politicians say and what politicians do. It's not up there in influencing results with, say, the selection of questions but it's often a factor.

For example (just an easy one), my result plots roughly the same as Romney's ... the titular architect of Romneycare. He can say whatever he likes, but that's such an enormous gap in positions that it highlights how inaccurate comparing plot points can be. (If we reversed the roles, he could say the same about our enormous difference on abortion)

[Dutch]

Perhaps the test is designed to make all those who take it think they are further to the left than they really are?

Question #1: Assuming all the world is one nation, do you care more about people or corporations?

Um....people?

Congrats, you are most like Joseph Stalin!

Cool...wait...what?

[sterlingice]

Dutch, I always expected you being more like Uncle Joe ;)

Welcome to our gay-loving, abortion-filled, anarchic picnic!

EDIT: Where we smoke pot, dream up regulations, and feast on the rich!

SI

[Dutch]

Dutch, I always expected you being more like Uncle Joe ;)

Welcome to our gay-loving, abortion-filled, anarchic picnic!

SI

So, basically, I should agree that the test is teh awesome or deal with you getting personal? C'mon, man!

[sterlingice]

Not meant to be personal.

Considering I think I've mentioned the flaws of the test in practically every other post in this thread, I think you know where I am.

SI

[Dutch]

Okay, and yes, you and me agreeing that the test wasn't perfect did throw a logic fault at me to contend with while deciphering your meaning. :)

[Warhammer]

This is me:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=3.88&soc=0.41

[ISiddiqui]

I'm in lefty-ville!

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.38&soc=-6.56

[M GO BLUE!!!]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.75&soc=-4.62

I am Ghandi

I was right there, but one tick more authoritarian. Would have posted, but accidentally closed the tab. Not taking it again to get the pic.

[Critch]

I was between Ghandi and Stalin, which is an ok place to be unless you're at an orgy.

[Warhammer]

The other problem with this test is how some of the questions are phrased. I may disagree on whether or not gay/lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt, but that doesn't mean I think it needs to be legislated.

In other words, I may side with something personally, but don't think there should be any legislation limiting or permitting it.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

The other problem with this test is how some of the questions are phrased. I may disagree on whether or not gay/lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt, but that doesn't mean I think it needs to be legislated.

In other words, I may side with something personally, but don't think there should be any legislation limiting or permitting it.

When I'm president, PM me so I can put you on the Sup Court. Ok?

[AgustusM]

I am in with Ghandi, The Dali Lama and Nelson Mandela - which surprises me since most consider me a jar head hard ass coach jock type of guy. Must be my open views on race, sex and religion.

[MIJB#19]

Hmmm, I think I was much more to the left in the past than I am now.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.50&soc=-2.05

[Marc Vaughan]

I was between Ghandi and Stalin, which is an ok place to be unless you're at an orgy.

See THIS is why we need a 'thank' button on the forum ;)

[chinaski]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.75&soc=-5.74

shocking! ;)

[molson]

I usually come out really liberal in these things even though I hate the Democratic party and even though really confident, judgmental liberalism turns me off way more than confident, judgmental conservatism.

[sterlingice]

I was between Ghandi and Stalin, which is an ok place to be unless you're at an orgy.

:D

SI

[JAG]

I'm in lefty-ville!

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.38&soc=-6.56

Interesting to see how your views have evolved since 2004:

I've only done the political compass one 230 times, but once more ;).

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79

Who are those people saying I'm a leftist now ;).

[sabotai]

Looking over from my 2004 post, I'm still about the same for Social Libertarian/Authoritarian but drifted left on economics. But that could just be the difference between picking "Agree" and "Strongly Agree" on some and the difference between "Disagree" and "Strongly Disagree" on others.

[Izulde]

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59

which puts me fairly close to Dalai Lama territory.

Fun little test, although I do agree that it's designed to make people appear more left than they actually are.

[ISiddiqui]

Interesting to see how your views have evolved since 2004:

Indeed! I am insanely different than I was in 2004.

As I tend to say: Jesus made me a commie :D

[lighthousekeeper]

another liberal libertarian here, i guess. somethoughts:

1. as previously stated, the test is incredibly lower-left slanted. (which makes jon's position even more incredible. :eek: )

2. the results reinforce why i roll my eyes anytime someone calls themselves a "social liberal and fiscal conservative". of course we all feel that way in a theoretical world - you want those with true needs to get what they need, but you want to be fiscally conservative. but it's incredibly difficult to satisfy both simultaneously.

[Solecismic]

I'm generally pro-private sector, pro-choice, which means I'm out of luck when it comes to representation.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=3.00&soc=-3.69

[Young Drachma]

I got more liberal over the past decade. I used to always rank on the right side of the spectrum and now I'm in the other quadrant. And how I did on this one probably underrated how I've shifted.

[stevew]

Hmmm, I think I was much more to the left in the past than I am now.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.50&soc=-2.05

I got basically the same exact plotting as this.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

1. as previously stated, the test is incredibly lower-left slanted. (which makes jon's position even more incredible. :eek: )

yep. 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need'

heh.

[Alan T]

I almost always end up in the middle or near middle on these things.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.12&soc=-2.21

[Desnudo]

I'm generally pro-private sector, pro-choice, which means I'm out of luck when it comes to representation.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=3.00&soc=-3.69

I'll see you at the Ron Paul rally

Interesting that besides him, there are no leaders in the lower right.

[Solecismic]

I'll see you at the Ron Paul rally

Interesting that besides him, there are no leaders in the lower right.

It's been mentioned many times that the people we're supposedly lumped in with do not share our views.

I could no more vote for Ron Paul than I could vote for a Rick Santorum or a John Edwards.

The lower right of us, in theory at least, are those who truly feel government must be greatly limited in scope. However, that also would mean the greatest variation in personal views.

[Vince, Pt. II]

As usual. Smidge to the right, 'bout 1/3-1/2 of the way down on the libertarian side.

+1

[Dutch]

I'm intrigued mostly by Solecismic and Alan T for showing up to the left of Obama and to the right of JiMG. :)

[Solecismic]

Economic Left/Right: 7.12


Dutch: One, no, that's not true (I'm 3.00 to the right economically). And two, left/right on this scale is purely economic. What we think of as left/right with respect to religion seems to affect this scale up and down instead.

I'm more a Founding-Fathers-type nerd in that I'm for as few government restrictions as possible both on my personal life (so I'm pro-choice/pro-gay rights/anti-nanny state) and on the economic world (so I actually *like* the concept of capitalism, which seems to be a dirty word these days).

[Buccaneer]

It's been mentioned many times that the people we're supposedly lumped in with do not share our views.

I could no more vote for Ron Paul than I could vote for a Rick Santorum or a John Edwards.

The lower right of us, in theory at least, are those who truly feel government must be greatly limited in scope. However, that also would mean the greatest variation in personal views.

Yep (on all points).

[EagleFan]

That test is flawed. It says I am a leftist facist.

[PilotMan]

I've moved very far to the left from where I was 10 years ago.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.75&soc=-2.77

Edit: And yes, there are some horribly leading questions and very left leaning indeed.

[Buccaneer]

I think the results still miss the point of personal responsibilty/beliefs and the government's role. For example, one can personally be anti-abortion/pornography (for example) but that does not assume that government has a role in such.

[Buccaneer]

On the other hand, it does not surprise me to see nearly all of Western leaders (including Romney and Obama) bunched up in the upper right. Politicians. :rolleyes:

[larrymcg421]

No surprise here.

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.51

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.38&soc=-6.51

[Maple Leafs]

I find it interesting the Canada's conservative PM is basically in the exact same spot as the USA's crazy scary socialist lefty madman.

[Grammaticus]

How did you guys get it so you could display the image? did you copy the picture and host is somewhere?

[JonInMiddleGA]

How did you guys get it so you could display the image? did you copy the picture and host is somewhere?

Didn't have to, just right-clicked for the image URL and posted that like a pic.

[panerd]

As others have said sections 5 and 6 seemed very slanted.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=1.50&soc=-3.90

[JediKooter]

In addition to the heavily slanted questions, I felt quite a few were too narrowly defined, so mine isn't what I feel would be an honest interpretation, but, here it is anyway.

Though, I'm not surprised that I'm pretty much a bee line to the opposite direction of what our current politicians are.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=4.25&soc=-2.31

[panerd]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=4.25&soc=-2.31

We need to meet up for a Dine rally! :)