View Full Version : Hurricane Sandy/Nor'easter?
Ben E Lou
10-22-2012, 09:31 AM
Some models that have been reliable in the past at this date range are suggesting that this sucker is going to emerge from the Bahamas and take a NW turn, coming ashore somewhere between VA and NYC, creating potentially historic snowfalls. Wade's weather savant boy is practically peeing his pants, it would appear: Update Your Browser | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/WxRisk)
Anyway, good luck northeast. Hope this turns out to sea.
Thomkal
10-22-2012, 09:47 AM
well at least we'll have something on the news besides politics/election talk. :)
sterlingice
10-22-2012, 09:51 AM
I'm guessing this is 99L? The European model has it doing some odd things. The most likely scenario is still that it just blows harmlessly out to the Atlantic like your typical October storm
SI
JPhillips
10-22-2012, 09:54 AM
After last year I've had enough of October snowstorms.
Fuck off 99L.
Alan T
10-22-2012, 10:16 AM
Awesome. Every winter I ask myself why I don't move back to Georgia
Ben E Lou
10-22-2012, 10:19 AM
Awesome. Every winter I ask myself why I don't move back to Georgia
Because every summer you'd be asking yourself why you don't move back to Massachusetts? :p
gstelmack
10-22-2012, 10:34 AM
Come to North Carolina, every season lasts 3 months...
Alan T
10-22-2012, 10:41 AM
Because every summer you'd be asking yourself why you don't move back to Massachusetts? :p
I am ok with air conditioners, and I don't have to shovel sunshine off of my driveway! :)
sterlingice
10-22-2012, 10:41 AM
Come to North Carolina, every season lasts 3 months...
Richmond was like that, too. Absolutely gorgeous weather
SI
Suicane75
10-22-2012, 10:43 AM
Ughh, I'm too old for this shit.
Blackadar
10-22-2012, 10:59 AM
Come to North Carolina, every season lasts 3 months...
Yeah, we have 4 seasons.
Emerald Green Spring
Sauna Summer
Multicolored Fall
Brown Mudbowl Winter
EagleFan
10-22-2012, 11:35 AM
99L? When I search that I only find results dated 2011?
sterlingice
10-22-2012, 11:48 AM
Aw, she became Tropical Depression 18 this morning:
Tropical Depression Eighteen: GFS Ensemble Computer Model Hurricane Forecasts | Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201218_ensmodel.html)
SI
Ben E Lou
10-22-2012, 12:03 PM
Aw, she became Tropical Depression 18 this morning:
Tropical Depression Eighteen: GFS Ensemble Computer Model Hurricane Forecasts | Weather Underground (http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201218_ensmodel.html)
SIYeah. It was 99L when I posted this. It became TD18 at the 11am update.
Ben E Lou
10-22-2012, 12:44 PM
...Wade's weather savant boy is practically peeing his pants...Alllllrighty then.*** ALERT *** ALERT 12Z MONDAY Midday CANADIAN MODEL... has just comes in... Model shows 944 MB Hurricance super bombs freakish thing over ocean City MD at 144 hr on the Morning of OCT 29
Ben E Lou
10-22-2012, 12:44 PM
"super bombs freakish thing"
sterlingice
10-22-2012, 12:50 PM
What is the name of said Crazy Weather Savant Boy?
SI
Logan
10-22-2012, 12:55 PM
Returning to NYC from Florida on the 29th. Guessing I should keep an eye out on this.
Ben E Lou
10-22-2012, 12:55 PM
I don't know his name. He has little/no concern for silly things like grammar, punctuation, and decorum, but when it comes to long-term forecasts of these types of storms, he's been consistently better than the NHC since Wade turned me on to him a couple of years or so ago.
FB Page: Update Your Browser | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/WxRisk)
Web Site: http://www.wxrisk.com/
If nothing else, his rants and trash-talk about how the NWS forecasters are incompetent morons are certainly entertaining.
Eaglesfan27
10-23-2012, 12:23 AM
Returning to NYC from Florida on the 29th. Guessing I should keep an eye out on this.
I fly back to NJ from SF on the 29th... Definitely will keep an eye on this later this week.
M GO BLUE!!!
10-23-2012, 06:19 AM
Awesome. Every winter I ask myself why I don't move back to Georgia
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Desnudo
10-23-2012, 09:56 AM
I am ok with air conditioners, and I don't have to shovel sunshine off of my driveway! :)
you'd miss the accents
Leroy Veritas
10-23-2012, 04:20 PM
Tropical storm Sandy scenarios: Northeast smash or out to sea most likely - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/tropical-storm-sandy-scenarios-northeast-smash-or-out-to-sea-most-likely/2012/10/23/29e6f7ce-1d41-11e2-9cd5-b55c38388962_blog.html#pagebreak)
JPhillips
10-23-2012, 05:06 PM
That's a good screen name.
sterlingice
10-23-2012, 05:16 PM
I think this guy has the best take for now:
Henry Margusity, AccuWeather (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/meteomadness/nao-says-a-storm-should-be-on-the-coast-how-strong/579929): “I think at this point with the divergence of the models, anyone talking about historic storms or epic storms based on one model is foolishness. When we start seeing agreement in the modeling, which by the way will take a few more days, we can start talking about impacts. Right now, my prediction is that a storm will develop along the coast and most likely the major cities from D.C. on north will get rain and gusty winds. How strong the storm will be remains to be seen.”
It's not as sexy but it's the truth. If things fall just wrong, then there's going to be a huge storm in the northeast in about a week and we'll have a lot better idea in a couple of days. It's still much more likely it won't happen and the danger of prematurely scaring people is more dangerous in creating false alarms than the danger of the actual storm right now.
SI
JPhillips
10-23-2012, 05:32 PM
I suppose you didn't stockpile water and tuna before Y2K either.
How did that work out for you, Mr. Calm and Rational?
kcchief19
10-23-2012, 09:22 PM
Way to be a buzz kill, SI. In this election year, I demand might rights to freak out and act irrationally!
General Mike
10-23-2012, 10:41 PM
Stuck in NJ on October 29th. Not looking forward to it.
Solecismic
10-23-2012, 10:59 PM
It's a good thing Henry Margusity doesn't live in Italy, or he'd be facing a long prison sentence if Sandy turns out to be more than a red-headed child's annoying little dog.
sterlingice
10-24-2012, 07:48 AM
It's a good thing Henry Margusity doesn't live in Italy, or he'd be facing a long prison sentence if Sandy turns out to be more than a red-headed child's annoying little dog.
Saw the earthquake story, eh?
The new models are all over the map (literally! and I used that correctly!)
http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/images/at201218_model.gif
http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/images/at201218_ensmodel.gif
SI
Ben E Lou
10-24-2012, 08:52 AM
Wade's boy actually posted something reasonably coherent, with minimal trash-talk for him.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/wxriskcom/wed-morning-updated-oct-24/438009656246298
As sandy begins to strengthen and reaches hurricane intensity the situation for the East Coast is looking worse and worse. As I've been insisting and trying to explain over the past 5 days... What has me so concerned about the scenario is the wave physics of the overall pattern and not what anyone ndividual models is dpeicting. Remember weather models resembled the atmosphere... The atmosphere does not resemble weather models. However more and more of the model data is beginning to latch onto the potential of this major and historic East Coast event .This first image shows the hurricane models.
I have received a number E mails and posts here in the facebook page and on the website and email where people have wondered why I am forecasting the system -- SANDY or SANDY / severe coastal storm -- coming to a coast when all the hurricane models are taking it out to sea. Again because of the overall pattern which forces the system to turn NW I know that the weather models are going to latch onto this and begin to show a much different scenario. The problem is that this particular range the ONLY model which is very good of this sort of thing is the European model.However this morning the hurricane model show a dramatic and massive change. This image shows comparison between hurricane models from last night - 18z OCT 23 and this morning. Notice the all now show the HOOK or the turn to the NW.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/527370_438019172912013_1274747112_n.jpg
Over the next several days and model runs the hurricane models will continue to show this HOOK with greater and greater frequency and a sharper and sharper turn to the northwest. I can say this was confidence because as we get closer to the event the models will begin to detect the implications of the pattern -- the HUGE Block over Greenland (-NAO) combined with the any huge OCEAN LOW trapped out in the north Central Atlantic Ocean . These two features .... As I have been saying for five days now ... will prevents SANDY from going off the coast and out into the sea . The worst case scenario continues to show up on the European model which has a reputation and deservedly so for handling East Coast hurricanes and winter storms the best. But besides the European model the navy model which two years ago saw an upgrade and started using the 4DVAR software.... Also shows an exceptional and severe event for the Northeast U.S. Coast. Not surprisingly the Canadian and the GFS models which do not have 4dvar of much further to the east.
This image shows the early morning Wednesday European model. The track has indeed shifted back to the west a little bit which has huge implications for everybody. As you can see the model shows that on the evening of the 29th central and Eastern Virginia central and Eastern Maryland as well as Delaware will see winds at 850 MB -- 1 mile up above the ground-- over 80 MPH per hour and during the times of heavy rains some of these winds will get pulled down to the surface. All this being said in the worse case scenario... This would be the worst coastal storm/ hurricane to hit the New Jersey Coast New York City since 1900 and the worst event for Long Island and Connecticut since the hurricane of 1938.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/314234_438019209578676_136661021_n.jpg
The fact that this is a full Moon event along with strong Southeast Wind driving the water inland and the track nw into the coast --- is extremely dangerous and scary looking for that area of the country. FOR VA / MD ... if we assumie that the track does not shift further to the west... Which is not a safe assumption to make at this time... There will be significant differences in weather conditions from this system depending on where you are located in Virginia and North Carolina and Maryland.
It is imperative that you get the correct forecast for your area and do not use a forecast say from Lynchburg if you are in Emporia Or say Leesburg.
The entire western third of Virginia including locations such a Charlottesville Lynchburg Roanoke Danville Martinsville and the southwest corner will not see much from the system.
In Central Virginia.... From Washington, DC and Winchester down into Warrenton and Fredericksburg and west of Richmond will be the transition zone. Winds here will be significantly stronger -- 20 to 40 MOH -- and the rain will be heavier with anywhere from 2 TO 4 inches of rain likely ...but it could be more.
From interstate 95 east to the coast and the Chessy bay area'.. conditions dramatically worsen based upon the data I am seeing right now. Rainfall amounts of 5 to 10 inches or more likely and the winds will gist up to 60 mph inland and much higher on the coast.Again this is the worst case scenario that I am presenting not necessarily my final forecast.
JPhillips
10-24-2012, 09:39 AM
I'm enough inland that I'm not terribly worried about winds, but the flooding from Irene last year was devastating to a lot of small communities in upstate NY. We really don't need a repeat of that.
Thomkal
10-24-2012, 10:14 AM
I'm enough inland that I'm not terribly worried about winds, but the flooding from Irene last year was devastating to a lot of small communities in upstate NY. We really don't need a repeat of that.
Amen to that my upstate NY brethren :)
Ben E Lou
10-24-2012, 10:25 AM
Upgraded to Hurricane at the 11am update.
Ben E Lou
10-25-2012, 04:27 AM
..and as the traditionally-used models, and therefore most forecasters, start to move more and more toward the left turn, Crazy Trash-Talking Weather Savant Boy steps up the trash talk...
backup (http://1664596.sites.myregisteredsite.com/meteorology/INFOCUS/infocus.htm)
A snippet...
The idea here is to hope that the crappie GFS model finally gets a clue about the basic laws of the universe and physics with all this new additional information in the model. The problem is that you can only shine up a pile of SHIT so much. So all the high expectations were hope that this new data is somehow going to affect the GFS model over the next few runs usually ends up being a total bust and let down.
Let us take a look about why the GFS model is screwing this up so badly. And this is really important because so many TV meteorologists both within the weather channel and on your local media and even on many private web pages rely extremely heavily on the GFS weather model.
And because the GFS model even this afternoon continues to show a hurricane staying well off the coast until it gets up into southeastern New England... Many of the TV & Media outlets up and down the East Coast are downplaying the threat or talking about the very complicated situation or expressing some other boilerplate expression of uncertainty.
wade moore
10-25-2012, 07:35 AM
God I love this guy.
Following weather was never as entertaining as it has been since I've started following him.
JPhillips
10-25-2012, 08:17 AM
He's such a dick to his readers, too. He's like Dennis Hooper from Blue Velvet.
Kodos
10-25-2012, 08:21 AM
This isn't good news for those of us in coastal Connecticut...
Ben E Lou
10-25-2012, 08:42 AM
Following weather was never as entertaining as it has been since I've started following him.:withstupid:
I didn't pay much more than token attention to tropical weather that wasn't going to affect the Lowcountry significantly until you turned me on to this guy.
His latest update (from about 30 minutes ago) has some good lines. It's long:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/wxriskcom/-alert-thursday-morning-update-oct-25/438357316211532
The important stuff and some of his trash talk from this update...
The threat to the Middle Atlantic Coast continues to increase on the morning and overnight model data even though the operational GFS continues to be a clueless inept weather model.I think is significant that the European and the navy model with a better physics package both show the same solution but the GFS and CMC which do not have this upgraded physics package... are much much further to the east. Let me repeat that. Not a single one of the new hurricane models show sandy going out to sea without making an impact on land. WELCOME TO 5 DAYS AGO. But in addition there is a cluster of tracks showing a land fall in the Delmarva which again identical to the tracks shown by the 0z European model the 0z navy model and the 0z GFDL.WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? The threat to the Middle Atlantic Coast is increasing. The media coverage should begin to really ramp up here today as the hurricane models are now shifted all towards the coast. This remains a unusual event not only because it's late October but because SANDY m is going to turn sharply to northwest then west northwest as it strikes the coast. I think .. but I do not know for sure yet-- think it's going to strike on the Delmarva but there still a lot of variability here and it's possible that SANDY could make landfall in New Jersey or even New York City or Long Island. Assuming that it does make landfall in the Delmarva --- the lower Maryland Eastern shore and Delaware peninsula for those of you who are geographically deprived -- that area can expect conditions at least as bad as what you saw with Isabel in 2003 and probably worse. Areas such as Ocean City Maryland Cape May New Jersey wallops island Virginia could take a devastating hit. The approach of the coast from the southwest of the northeast will drive a wall of water into the entire Delmarva region as well as Southern New Jersey and Hampton roads.... and to a lesser degree over northeastern North Carolina Northern New Jersey and New York City Long Island. The full Moon on the 29th is going to make things particularly bad and damaging along the coast with the storm tide. Winds could cost up to 90 mph in many locations
This also is a serious threat for the northern neck of Virginia as well as the wash DC Baltimore metro area and all of eastern Virginia including Hampton roads and Richmond. In all of these areas winds could reach up to 75 miles per hour in gusts during the height of the storm which will be fairly prolonged. The rainfall amounts will be at least 5 to 10 inches and these areas.
Significant rain and wind will push into all of Virginia and the interior portions of northeastern North Carolina as well as all of Maryland New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
The snowstorm potential here remains high especially in the elevation above 800 or 1000 feet. It is still too early to know which portion of the interior Middle Atlantic mountain areas are going to see the heavy snow but somebody is gonna get really crushed with an early season snowfall.
sterlingice
10-25-2012, 09:32 AM
I just don't know if I could read a guy who is that much of a dick for more than a short period of time
SI
wade moore
10-25-2012, 09:43 AM
He's such a dick to his readers, too. He's like Dennis Hooper from Blue Velvet.
YY - he totally lashes out at his readers.
I just don't know if I could read a guy who is that much of a dick for more than a short period of time
SI
Well, I only pay attention to him during major events - tropical storms/hurricanes and snowstorms.
It helps a lot that, in general, he's more right than other sources and earlier. I was talking to ben and here's what usually happens:
1. A week or so out he starts calling for a decent potential for a huge event.
2. At that time, mainstream people are saying it will be nothing, go out to sea, etc.
3. As the week progresses, the mainstream shifts closer and closer to his original stuff.
4. A day or two out they basically completely agree with him.
He does miss sometimes and he does tend to seem like he's rooting for big storms, but he's more right than others. With my job, it's very helpful to know as far out as possible if a major event is coming. I don't need daily weather, but knowing about major events is VERY helpful.
Ben E Lou
10-25-2012, 10:09 AM
I just don't know if I could read a guy who is that much of a dick...Heh. That's what makes him entertaining!
And like Wade, I don't read him daily or even close to it. I just gave his FB page a "Like" a while back, and when one of his *ALERT* *ALERT* *ALERT* messages comes across my feed, I pay attention then.
Ben E Lou
10-25-2012, 10:09 AM
(11am updates in...all NWS models pointing to US landfall now...)
Kodos
10-25-2012, 01:32 PM
http://weather.aol.com/2012/10/25/rare-hybrid-storm-predicted-to-slam-northeast/?icid=maing-grid7|netscape|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D225511
From the Comments section:
Jody
In my opinion, it's not a natural storm. I feel that in my opinion that, our Government is using HAARP, to control the weather. Using this ,"Weapon," to knock out the power, and data usages towards election day, this way Obama CAN still have a chance. As we all know, Obama doesn't stand a chance, and will say that he won because, HAARP wiped out power, communications, and data. This way the government can rig the polls. Wow, it doesn't take much to see how our own government is trying to become an empire with an emperor. We ALL know that Obama needs to be out of office, and this is the ONLY way the can control the outcome of such elections. So, as for this storm, a rare storm? I think not, and have firm believe that this is being controlled by our government.
:eek:
rjolley
10-25-2012, 01:47 PM
http://weather.aol.com/2012/10/25/rare-hybrid-storm-predicted-to-slam-northeast/?icid=maing-grid7|netscape|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D225511
From the Comments section:
:eek:
Thanks for that. Been having a blah day and this made my day. Had to stifle a hearty laugh and almost hurt myself.
EagleFan
10-25-2012, 01:52 PM
http://weather.aol.com/2012/10/25/rare-hybrid-storm-predicted-to-slam-northeast/?icid=maing-grid7|netscape|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D225511
From the Comments section:
:eek:
Well... It IS obvious!!!
You know they have the technology to control the weather! If they can blow up 3 large buildings by planting demolitions while being invisible they can surely control the weather!
I bet it's JFK and Elvis that are responsible. That sonic boom from last weekend was just part of this large conspiracy!!!!
We want THE TRUTH!!!!!!
Kodos
10-25-2012, 01:59 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=469538456400235
While we're on the topic of insanely stupid people...
sterlingice
10-25-2012, 02:13 PM
I still think it's Cobra Commander and his Weather Dominator and Obama is just covering it up.
SI
johnnyshaka
10-25-2012, 02:36 PM
Hey, if Jesse "the body" Ventura says HAARP is a weapon created by the US Gov't then who the hell am I to go question it's existence?!
Jesse, the friggin' body, Ventura, PEOPLE!
Comey
10-25-2012, 02:47 PM
This isn't good news for those of us in coastal Connecticut...
I'm already on record with my co-workers as saying that, if this thing turns toward us in Mystic, I'm heading to PA. Not dealing with it.
sterlingice
10-25-2012, 02:47 PM
Hey, if Jesse "the body" Ventura says HAARP is a weapon created by the US Gov't then who the hell am I to go question it's existence?!
Jesse, the friggin' body, Ventura, PEOPLE!
No, no, you forgot. He's Jesse "the Mind" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Governor_of_Minnesota) now.
Oh, Minnesota...
SI
wade moore
10-25-2012, 03:11 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/183877_438474592866471_798475182_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=438474592866471&set=a.148807335166533.25889.129478830432717&type=1&theater
And the paths continue to move more and more to what Trash-Talkin' Weatherman was saying 5 days ago or so.
BishopMVP
10-26-2012, 02:58 AM
WELCOME TO 5 DAYS AGO is the new Welcome to Hollywood.
SirFozzie
10-26-2012, 03:03 AM
Sportsdigs had Welcome to five days ago last week.
wade moore
10-26-2012, 07:24 AM
And Sandy's path from the NWS just keeps a movin' further and further west.
Seems pretty likely that VA is going to at least get a lot of wind and rain.
JediKooter
10-26-2012, 10:47 AM
I'm headed to Florida next Friday, should be past there by then I hope.
britrock88
10-26-2012, 11:58 AM
Quick hit-and-run:
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wade moore
10-26-2012, 12:07 PM
I am working on the 1st GUESS maps now and will issue them latee this later. BUT in eastern half of VA all of central and eastern MD all of DEL and southern half of NJ .... You need to prepare for conditions that may approach what you saw with Isabel. There will be many areas which will see significant power lost an interruption. Many schools will be closed. There will be significant flooding throughout the day and Hampton roads as well as on the lower Maryland Eastern shore and lower Virginia eastern shore. (if you are a grown adult and you cannot tell the difference between the eastern half of Virginia and whether or not your particular location is in the eastern half of Virginia .... or the eastern and central portions of Maryland.... Please do was all a favor and do not vote on November 6... or Reproduce any human ofF spring for that matter).
Since the system (in my opinion) is NOT going to swing that far out into the ocean ....the rains will move into Southeast Virginia and northeastern North Carolina Sunday morning. This means that the rains will get worse during the day and this is significantly faster than what I thought earlier in the week. So change your plans accordingly. The raisn will reach central VA by sunday afternoon..or sooner
The main event however will be Monday October 29. The driving heavy never ending rains will last into the morning of the 30th on Tuesday over all of Virginia Maryland and Delaware as well as Southern New Jersey.
One last point the snow threat for the entire eastern half of West Virginia into southwestern Virginia Mts and the mountains along the western side of the Shenandoah Valley is still there and still significant. Those areas will see heavy near record setting if not record setting snowfall from this event.
The bit about people that don't know where they live is hilarious.
wade moore
10-26-2012, 12:15 PM
In all seriousness though.
If this ends up Isabel level for us that's not good. For those that don't know, Isabel was a VERY VERY bad deal in the Hampton Roads area.
stevew
10-26-2012, 12:18 PM
Isabel sucked a fat cock. Almost a week with no power. Hopefully they manage to close the tunnel in time. :)
wade moore
10-26-2012, 12:22 PM
Isabel sucked a fat cock. Almost a week with no power. Hopefully they manage to close the tunnel in time. :)
Hah - forgot you were down here then.
Yeah, a jammed floodgate in a tunnel that is basically the one route in and out of a city isn't so good.
EagleFan
10-26-2012, 12:25 PM
Last year Irene was supposed to be the killer storm here. Actually took the family inland for that one and returned to find no problems from it.
Then we had that freak storm at the end of June which tore the hell out of the area (much worse than Irene) and had us without power for a week.
Now this freakish storm. Last year (for Irene) we lived in a development. This year we live in a rural area with plenty of trees and a river not far away across the street.
It may be over-reacting but I think I may board up tomorrow and send the family to PA somewhere.
stevew
10-26-2012, 12:25 PM
The building across the street was connected to the grid via our building only. They went something like another week without power more than us. My wife was about 7-8 months pregnant at the time. It was miserable.
Kodos
10-26-2012, 12:28 PM
We had our in-laws visiting for the week plus that Irene knocked out our power.
sterlingice
10-26-2012, 12:35 PM
Last year Irene was supposed to be the killer storm here. Actually took the family inland for that one and returned to find no problems from it.
Then we had that freak storm at the end of June which tore the hell out of the area (much worse than Irene) and had us without power for a week.
Now this freakish storm. Last year (for Irene) we lived in a development. This year we live in a rural area with plenty of trees and a river not far away across the street.
It may be over-reacting but I think I may board up tomorrow and send the family to PA somewhere.
Remember the thing about weather, especially churning storms like hurricanes and snowstorms: where you live can make a huge difference. 15 mile gaps can have 2-5x precipitation gradients so someone's 2" of heavy rain is their neighbor's 10" flood
SI
JPhillips
10-26-2012, 12:41 PM
Last year Irene was supposed to be the killer storm here. Actually took the family inland for that one and returned to find no problems from it.
Then we had that freak storm at the end of June which tore the hell out of the area (much worse than Irene) and had us without power for a week.
Now this freakish storm. Last year (for Irene) we lived in a development. This year we live in a rural area with plenty of trees and a river not far away across the street.
It may be over-reacting but I think I may board up tomorrow and send the family to PA somewhere.
During Irene the drainage ditch next to our church went from a trickle to so full it flooded the church up to 4 or 5 feet. If you're in a hilly are in particular the water rise can be extreme.
King of New York
10-26-2012, 02:09 PM
In all seriousness though.
If this ends up Isabel level for us that's not good. For those that don't know, Isabel was a VERY VERY bad deal in the Hampton Roads area.
Freaking Isabel. That name still strikes fear in my heart to this day.
I have bought up all the peanut butter in Williamsburg, just in case.
Leroy Veritas
10-26-2012, 02:18 PM
Washington, D.C. will not escape Hurricane Sandy: latest storm scenarios - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/washington-dc-will-not-escape-hurricane-sandy-latest-storm-scenarios/2012/10/26/19a6c5b8-1f8c-11e2-9cd5-b55c38388962_blog.html#pagebreak)
Looks like it's just a matter of where this is going to be a mess and not if.
Thomkal
10-26-2012, 07:05 PM
Under a tropical storm warning here in Myrtle Beach-expected to start raining overnight and all day tomorrow with 20-40 mph winds. Hope everybody else in Sandy's path stays safe.
wade moore
10-26-2012, 07:15 PM
Freaking Isabel. That name still strikes fear in my heart to this day.
I have bought up all the peanut butter in Williamsburg, just in case.
hahaha.
I'm hoping I have enough here, no way I'm venturing to a Williamsburg grocery store this weekend unless it's at like 6:00 AM.
Abe Sargent
10-26-2012, 07:17 PM
Everybody here in North Phily is really getting ready.
General Mike
10-26-2012, 07:27 PM
No water anywhere
EagleFan
10-26-2012, 09:43 PM
Did the food shopping tonight (the emergency food shopping that is). Surprised that I found water. Tomorrow will be bringing everything in from outside and into the shed. Thinking about boarding up the windows, mostly to protect from any flying branches or debris. Bad feeling about this but on the bright side, if we are without power for a while I will be ready this time (not like that June storm that caught everyone off guard). It also won't be 98 degrees for the next week so we won't be entirely miserable.
Stay safe all.
JetsIn06
10-26-2012, 10:55 PM
Irene flooded my basement with 3 feet of water. Hoping that doesn't happen again. Stay safe everyone.
lighthousekeeper
10-26-2012, 10:56 PM
No water anywhere
try your faucets
Eaglesfan27
10-26-2012, 11:06 PM
Really concerned about our flight home... Plane is due to land in Philly at 6 in the morning Monday. Wonder if conditions will be bad by then.
Lathum
10-26-2012, 11:10 PM
Really concerned about our flight home... Plane is due to land in Philly at 6 in the morning Monday. Wonder if conditions will be bad by then.
most models say you should be fine, even so you could likely get in Newark, Allentown, JFK, etc... and be a car ride away.
PilotMan
10-26-2012, 11:31 PM
I'm supposed to be in Richmond Monday night. I just don't see that happening. More likely to be New York, although that's probably a stretch.
PilotMan
10-26-2012, 11:38 PM
dola
and Greensboro on Tuesday morning after a trip to NY. Yeah, I don't see either of those days going according to plan.
Ben E Lou
10-27-2012, 03:47 AM
In case people don't realize it, this storm is freaking ENORMOUS. The center is roughly 400 miles SSE of me, and we're getting rain and 20ish mph winds from it at my house right now. I'd think anywhere within 100 miles of landfall is going to feel strong effects from this sucker. Y'all be safe up there, and let's hope its strength diminishes before it hits land.
M GO BLUE!!!
10-27-2012, 08:28 AM
If I have to come up with a costume this year I think I'll just put on a windbreaker & a Weather Channel cap.
When you see Jim Cantore, be afraid.
General Mike
10-27-2012, 09:05 AM
try your faucets
That;s fine til the treatment facility is under water.
wade moore
10-27-2012, 10:00 AM
In case people don't realize it, this storm is freaking ENORMOUS. The center is roughly 400 miles SSE of me, and we're getting rain and 20ish mph winds from it at my house right now. I'd think anywhere within 100 miles of landfall is going to feel strong effects from this sucker. Y'all be safe up there, and let's hope its strength diminishes before it hits land.
Yup. At this point I think his is our biggest worry. As it runs along the coast and possibly hits land in the Delaware area, we get the backlash on the West and SW corner. Won't be as bad as a direct hit, but still not fun.
EagleFan
10-27-2012, 03:21 PM
Decided not to roll the dice. Sending the wife and kids and an impromptu trip far enough away that they will be fine getting there and back.
I may head in their direction tomorrow, not sure yet but as least I won't have to worry about them.
stevew
10-27-2012, 03:25 PM
They are projecting us to potentially lose power all the way over on the PA/Ohio Border. Hopefully this is just a cautionary tale, I don't have time for this shit.
kcchief19
10-27-2012, 03:26 PM
That;s fine til the treatment facility is under water.
Fill up whatever you have. Fill up the bathtub, spare sinks, bowls, pitchers, plastic bottles. Might come in handy.
Good luck to all out there ... this looks like it's going to be nasty. Hoping it somehow lessens over the next few days.
General Mike
10-27-2012, 04:02 PM
Mandatory evacuations for all NJ barrier islands from Sandy Hook to Cape May.
JPhillips
10-27-2012, 05:23 PM
Looking at hours and hours of tropical storm winds here. I'm on top of a hill, so I don't worry about flooding, but downed trees and loss of power seem inevitable. Hopefully nothing hits the house.
Leroy Veritas
10-27-2012, 06:06 PM
Hurricane Sandy: Frequently Asked Questions - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/hurricane-sandy-frequently-asked-questions/2012/10/27/cc66bb42-2061-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_blog.html)
Anyone in the DC/Nova region should read this and prepare accordingly. God bless to those of you in the NJ/DE/NY range of this storm, they're telling us to prepare for 3-7 days without power so I can't imagine how bad it will be for you.
stevew
10-27-2012, 06:11 PM
I guess I will fill up some water jugs just in case I need that in order to flush toilets.
jeff061
10-27-2012, 06:11 PM
I find it damn near impossible to filter out all the hype and bullshit meant to sell "news" and get a non-biased report on what I can expect in MA. It's frustrating. Anyone have a good source?
I'm supposed to be driving up to Burlington, VT Monday, wondering if I should just say no to that.
Ironhead
10-27-2012, 06:13 PM
Well, at least I had the week off for vacation anyway. There is a mandatory evacuation of the area just east of me.
Dutch
10-27-2012, 06:38 PM
good luck up there...
DaddyTorgo
10-27-2012, 06:48 PM
I find it damn near impossible to filter out all the hype and bullshit meant to sell "news" and get a non-biased report on what I can expect in MA. It's frustrating. Anyone have a good source?
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not very worried about it.
http://www.mass.gov/eopss/agencies/mema/
jeff061
10-27-2012, 06:54 PM
Neither am I, but I wasn't worried about Isabel either.
Alan T
10-27-2012, 07:12 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not very worried about it.
http://www.mass.gov/eopss/agencies/mema/
Neither am I, but I wasn't worried about Isabel either.
The hurricane last year followed by that October heavy wet snow of near a foot killed nearly all of the huge trees in my yard. Even if this storm doesn't hit me directly, if there is strong enough winds, it will take down all kinds of trees in the area and that will mean quite a bit of power loss.
I'm probably far closer to where this storm is hitting though than you guys closer to Boston. Right now, it looks like this storm is going to completely level my corporate office though in Long Island. I was there last week and supposed to be there again this week, but decided no way, and left to go home.
Leroy Veritas
10-27-2012, 09:55 PM
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/imagery/single.cgi?image=Sandy.A2012301.1830.2km.jpg
Enormous isn't the word for this thing.
Eaglesfan27
10-28-2012, 12:00 AM
most models say you should be fine, even so you could likely get in Newark, Allentown, JFK, etc... and be a car ride away.
Maybe... But with my fiancé and a four year old girl, I am not taking chances. We moved our flight up and will leave SF at 6 am tomorrow and be back in Philly by 2:30.
Leroy Veritas
10-28-2012, 01:43 AM
Sandy is now the largest Atlantic hurricane on record as measured by diameter of gale force winds (1040 mi.).
EagleFan
10-28-2012, 05:23 AM
What changed?
Earlier (few hours ago) saw the following from the weather notifications for my area:
Coastal Flood warnings from 6 PM Sunday until 6 AM Tuesday
Flood watch from 8 PM Sunday until 8 PM Tuesday
High Wind Warning from 8 AM Monday until 8 PM Tuesday
Now the coastal has changed to 4 PM Sunday until 12 AM Tuesday
The flood watch stayed the same
The high wind warning is now 8 AM Monday until 9 AM Tuesday
Did the path change or did it speed up?
Like that 11 hours got cut off the high wind warning, would like to see another 11 hours cut off that time. There are some trees here that worry me (with the combination of torrential rain and high winds). Any reduction in that combination is a good thing.
MIJB#19
10-28-2012, 06:37 AM
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/imagery/single.cgi?image=Sandy.A2012301.1830.2km.jpg
Enormous isn't the word for this thing.Gigantic? Brutal?
Seriously guys, good luck out there.
jbergey22
10-28-2012, 07:04 AM
Lets hope for the best
lighthousekeeper
10-28-2012, 08:49 AM
i live in nj so i'm going into work today in anticipation of work being closed monday and/or tuesday.
also, i'm one of those potential morons who hasn't hoarded provisions at all. our neighborhood has underground power lines, so i would think it would take a lot to lose power around here.
OldGiants
10-28-2012, 09:09 AM
i live in nj so i'm going into work today in anticipation of work being closed monday and/or tuesday.
also, i'm one of those potential morons who hasn't hoarded provisions at all. our neighborhood has underground power lines, so i would think it would take a lot to lose power around here.
When the overhead main lines leading into your development go down, you will be toast -- or rather not toasting because the power is out.
That's what I have here in Va, underground in our development but the main lines are above ground on the highways leading in. Usually restored quickly, but it does go out for an hour or three.
Masked
10-28-2012, 09:18 AM
Been on the hold with United now for 90 minutes. Their site won't let me do anything online.
JPhillips
10-28-2012, 10:07 AM
Weather Channel is in to full panic mode:
Flying debris is expected to attack areas from Boston, Mass., to Buffalo, N.Y.
Sentient flying debris!!!!
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 10:08 AM
Classes already cancelled here through Tuesday at my University and other places
Ron Mexico
10-28-2012, 10:17 AM
Fair shot the banks will close-- I have a conference call tonight to see if we'll be working tomorrow. Our area extends from the Trenton area north to Warren County and all the way east to the shore. Going to be an interesting couple days to say the least.
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 10:28 AM
I ordered two pizzas and two two litres of tea. Should arrive in a bit and hold me over, just in case.
Suicane75
10-28-2012, 11:04 AM
I ordered two pizzas as well but that'll only get me through about midday. Luckily we got both our monster trees pruned this summer after having branch after branch fall on the house during last Octobers storm. Still, my whole property is lined with trees and I'm not looking forward to this at all. First time I've ever been legitimately scared by a weather event. The rain isn't gonna bother me cause I'm on a hill. We do have poor drainage but a hill with poor drainage is still a hill. It's the wind that's got the fear in me. The fact that it was a hot summer and we haven't had much rain is a positive.
Alan T
10-28-2012, 11:30 AM
My wife just got the phone call that they are already cancelling school for tomorrow out here.
PilotMan
10-28-2012, 11:39 AM
My flight from Cincy to NY on Monday and my whole Tuesday schedule is cancelled.
claphamsa
10-28-2012, 11:49 AM
nothing is closed around here yet... and WMATA doesnt seem to think its gonna be a bad storm. their only info is "when winds get over 35 well slow down".
Lathum
10-28-2012, 11:52 AM
My flight from Cincy to NY on Monday and my whole Tuesday schedule is cancelled.
Better for that to happen now than be stuck out there
General Mike
10-28-2012, 12:27 PM
Went to the store this morning and bought water and non-perishables to be on the safe side. Didn't lose power during Floyd, Irene or last Halloween's ice storm, but not taking any chances.
Leroy Veritas
10-28-2012, 01:28 PM
nothing is closed around here yet... and WMATA doesnt seem to think its gonna be a bad storm. their only info is "when winds get over 35 well slow down".
Yep. They're always a bit slow. If they, and other local entities, would listen to the Capital Weather Gang instead of TV/radio personality "meteorologists" then we wouldn't have things like Commutageddon last year. With the rain showing up sooner than expected, hopefully they'll rethink their stupidity this once and actually shut down their above ground tracks early.
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 02:29 PM
Man, 2 days researach on this new Axe is crazy for Spec Ops 4. I love, it, and I'm happy to unlock Ghost Rider afterwards, he seems like a fun Scrapper to add to my team, but two days!!! I don;t think any of the research from Spec Ops 3 was anywhere close ot that, and that will only make me through Step 16 when its done, still have a bunch more.
Meanwhile I have to save up some CP for buying Daredevil and Gambit, so that I can get the epic boss out on the Hoary Hosts mission. I don;t really want them, but I already have and am heavily playing Hercules and Quicksilver,r and they both rock, so this is the other side of that, I guess.
Chubby
10-28-2012, 02:30 PM
Man, 2 days researach on this new Axe is crazy for Spec Ops 4. I love, it, and I'm happy to unlock Ghost Rider afterwards, he seems like a fun Scrapper to add to my team, but two days!!! I don;t think any of the research from Spec Ops 3 was anywhere close ot that, and that will only make me through Step 16 when its done, still have a bunch more.
Meanwhile I have to save up some CP for buying Daredevil and Gambit, so that I can get the epic boss out on the Hoary Hosts mission. I don;t really want them, but I already have and am heavily playing Hercules and Quicksilver,r and they both rock, so this is the other side of that, I guess.
I know what you are talking about but I think you posted in the wrong thread :D
and ADD ME! :)
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 02:31 PM
Man, 2 days researach on this new Axe is crazy for Spec Ops 4. I love, it, and I'm happy to unlock Ghost Rider afterwards, he seems like a fun Scrapper to add to my team, but two days!!! I don;t think any of the research from Spec Ops 3 was anywhere close ot that, and that will only make me through Step 16 when its done, still have a bunch more.
Meanwhile I have to save up some CP for buying Daredevil and Gambit, so that I can get the epic boss out on the Hoary Hosts mission. I don;t really want them, but I already have and am heavily playing Hercules and Quicksilver,r and they both rock, so this is the other side of that, I guess.
Whoops, sorry, wrong Forum! This was about Marvel: Avengers Assemble, not about anything on FOFC. Sorry Bout that :)
Chubby
10-28-2012, 02:33 PM
Whoops, sorry, wrong Forum! This was about Marvel: Avengers Assemble, not about anything on FOFC. Sorry Bout that :)
I know, there's like no other FOFCers playing MAA besides myself and Arles (and you now)
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 02:36 PM
I know, there's like no other FOFCers playing MAA besides myself and Arles (and you now)
Well we are all cool then! Not to threadjack too much, but I've been playing for almost a month and love it.
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 02:52 PM
It's pouring rain in the Eagles game, but it hasn;t been raining here in KOP, a few miles north, for hours and hours.
General Mike
10-28-2012, 03:19 PM
I havent seen a drop of rain in central New Jersey yet, but I'm about to take my dog for a walk so I expect that to change.
claphamsa
10-28-2012, 03:57 PM
no rain here yet... not looking so good, but no rain.
cuervo72
10-28-2012, 04:56 PM
http://www.opm.gov/status/
Fed offices in DC closed tomorrow, unsurprisingly.
Masked
10-28-2012, 05:08 PM
Finally got through to United and I'm stuck in Mass through Thursday.
DaddyTorgo
10-28-2012, 05:31 PM
Finally got through to United and I'm stuck in Mass through Thursday.
Zoinks. Where are you at?
claphamsa
10-28-2012, 05:37 PM
http://www.opm.gov/status/
Fed offices in DC closed tomorrow, unsurprisingly.
its funny, becasue its closed to the public.... does that mean we dont have to work? in the end, we are all required to have emergency telework agreements anyways.....
Logan
10-28-2012, 05:56 PM
I landed back in NYC from Florida a couple hours ago. I was supposed to be getting in around this time on Monday. On Friday I saw the notice that Delta was waiving fees for flights that would include mine and called immediately to get the last one that would work. I think we were among the last few planes to be let into LGA. It was pretty rough seeing all the stranded people as I celebrated inside.
Eaglesfan27
10-28-2012, 06:20 PM
Maybe... But with my fiancé and a four year old girl, I am not taking chances. We moved our flight up and will leave SF at 6 am tomorrow and be back in Philly by 2:30.
Made it home safely. Now at home readying our place for the storm as much as possible. The flight we were originally supposed to be on tonight has been cancelled due to the effects of the storm.
Eaglesfan27
10-28-2012, 06:22 PM
I landed back in NYC from Florida a couple hours ago. I was supposed to be getting in around this time on Monday. On Friday I saw the notice that Delta was waiving fees for flights that would include mine and called immediately to get the last one that would work. I think we were among the last few planes to be let into LGA. It was pretty rough seeing all the stranded people as I celebrated inside.
I was pissed that USAir would not change ours on Friday. However, on Saturday they made that call to waive fees for our day. As a result, I didn't get to sit with my fiance and her daugher, as there were only 3 tickets left when I made the change. Still, very happy to be home safely.
Eaglesfan27
10-28-2012, 06:23 PM
Double Dola -
The last hour of our flight was the roughest "major" flight I've ever been on. We hit plenty of turbulence for about 400 miles.
Masked
10-28-2012, 07:19 PM
Zoinks. Where are you at?
I'm in Hyannis tonight and will probably head back to Boston tomorrow.
DaddyTorgo
10-28-2012, 07:22 PM
I'm in Hyannis tonight and will probably head back to Boston tomorrow.
Yeah - getting off the Cape would be a good idea.
Well - depending on how things end up shaking out, let me know...maybe I'll pop into Boston...
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 07:27 PM
Glad everything worked out EF
Draft Dodger
10-28-2012, 07:28 PM
school already canceled here as well (SW NH). most folks around here - myself included - are pretty mellow. We didn't do anything special to prepare.
/last post ever
terpkristin
10-28-2012, 07:42 PM
I'm still on disability from work after my back surgery and not able to drive very far, so really the only thing I have to "worry" about is losing power. And even if that happens, my non-end-unit townhouse should stay warm enough. I have water for a few days, if it were to come to that. I'm far enough west that I'll just get some high winds (gusts up to 65?) and 4-7" rain, but not so far west that I'll get the blizzards they're saying will hit the mountains of WV.
I do live about a quarter mile from the Potomac but I'm up on a hill so I don't think there will be anything to fear from flooding for me. The road to my street has POTENTIAL to flood, but I think that's unlikely.
School's are closed here tomorrow. I suspect my job will follow suit, but will wait to the last minute. Then again, my company impromptu changed their written inclement weather policy in the middle of Snowmaggedon, so it wouldn't surprise me if they don't shut down.
/tk
terpkristin
10-28-2012, 07:52 PM
Dola,
My dad is worried about our boat, docked in a marina just south of Annapolis. They were saying earlier that the surge in the bay shouldn't be too high (and we're docked in the bay) but even 4' could put our non-floating docks under water.
Definitely wish we were on floating docks.
/tk
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 10:36 PM
Said a prayer for all of the people on the board preparing for Sandy to be safe and dry and en-powered.
claphamsa
10-28-2012, 10:55 PM
still barely raining here... that being said, the lights have flickered a couple times.
Abe Sargent
10-28-2012, 11:14 PM
I was really impressed wthte newscast following the NBC game. About 45 strait minutes of sandy stuff, no duplicate info, no other stories, no breaks for commercials. Nicely done.
tarcone
10-28-2012, 11:29 PM
The weather guy here just said the storm is 1000 miles across. He said it would cover an area from Denver to the Indiana border. Wow.
Neon_Chaos
10-28-2012, 11:53 PM
Keep safe, guys.
PilotMan
10-29-2012, 12:15 AM
Looks like I'll be in Greensboro tomorrow, and all day Tuesday. Wednesday is still on schedule, but that could change since it's all in and out of LGA.
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 02:40 AM
A fiercer forecast for Hurricane Sandy’s effects on Washington, D.C. - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/a-fiercer-forecast-for-hurricane-sandys-effects-on-washington-dc/2012/10/28/01d5d1be-2152-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_blog.html)
Pressure dropping to its lowest point, storm appears to be strengthening with reports of 90 mph winds at the vortex, the next two days may be worse than expected.
Here's a pic of downtown Norfolk that my niece forwarded to me. This is after the tide went out.
https://twitter.com/MartinMMC/status/262788339625766912/photo/1/large
JonInMiddleGA
10-29-2012, 09:07 AM
BREAKING: HMS Bounty Sinks Off N.C. Coast, 2 Crew Missing | WSAV TV (http://www2.wsav.com/news/2012/oct/29/breaking-crews-abandon-hms-bounty-nc-coast-ar-4847422/)
The HMS Bounty, a 180-foot, three-mast tall ship, was last marked about 90 miles southeast of Hatteras.
The ship has sunk, according to the Coast Guard at 8:45 a.m. Monday.
Just before 8 a.m., the Facebook page for the HMS Bounty says 14 of the 16 people who had to abandon their ship have been hoisted to safety.
Coffee Warlord
10-29-2012, 09:15 AM
BREAKING: HMS Bounty Sinks Off N.C. Coast, 2 Crew Missing | WSAV TV (http://www2.wsav.com/news/2012/oct/29/breaking-crews-abandon-hms-bounty-nc-coast-ar-4847422/)
So THAT'S where the Klingon Bird of Prey Kirk & company stole wound up.
JPhillips
10-29-2012, 09:18 AM
It is unclear why the boat set out to sea with Sandy bearing down. Sandy could be the largest storm ever to hit the United States, according to NOAA's website.
That is a good question.
Coffee Warlord
10-29-2012, 09:22 AM
That is a good question.
They probably left it too late, but it's my understanding that's common procedure when a bigass storm is bearing down - get out of port and moor yourself in a safer location.
cartman
10-29-2012, 09:37 AM
So if the Bounty sunk, that means Captain Bligh and the rest in the rowboat are screwed.
Chief Rum
10-29-2012, 10:15 AM
So if the Bounty sunk, that means Captain Bligh and the rest in the rowboat are screwed.
Thank you. As sad as that story is, I couldn't believe we got a good 4-5 posts in before anyone made a Mutiny on the Bounty joke.
Suicane75
10-29-2012, 10:17 AM
Breezy and rainy so far today in Hunterdon County NJ, expected to pick up in a few hours and especially later tonight. Right now it's my kind of day but I know what's coming so I'm tempering my hopes. Just playing a game of HON: Weather Women.
mckerney
10-29-2012, 10:22 AM
http://weather.aol.com/2012/10/25/rare-hybrid-storm-predicted-to-slam-northeast/?icid=maing-grid7|netscape|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D225511
From the Comments section:
:eek:
But it's such a perfect plan, by causing damage and power outages Obama can easily steal the election by controlling the outcome of voting in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York and Massachusetts....
Hey wait a minute, why didn't we just send this one to Florida again?
sterlingice
10-29-2012, 10:28 AM
It's because Obama is so incompetent that he sent it to states he already will win ;)
SI
bronconick
10-29-2012, 10:34 AM
He's trolling. Still win the northeast states, but turnout will be depressed so Romney can win the popular vote by 3-4 points and lose the electoral college.
panerd
10-29-2012, 10:42 AM
Maybe it's just my midwestern background but that row of sandbags doesn't seem like it will do much if the water just goes around them. Do they think that fence is going to block a flood?
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/IlOMptmh_.BMUOfSkMGTzQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MjA7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-10-29T133559Z_265218359_GM1E8AT1NWW01_RTRMADP_3_STORM-SANDY.JPG
Ben E Lou
10-29-2012, 10:45 AM
"super bombs freakish thing"Dang. It appears to be super bombing freakish thing. As the Euro model predicted a week ago, it's strengthening as it approaches the NE coast. It's at 943 mb at the 11am update. The SBFT prediction called for 944. This would be a prime example of why I put stock in this guy and the Euro model and not the NWS when we're that far out. They still had it going out to sea this time last week...
Mizzou B-ball fan
10-29-2012, 10:48 AM
This is Mackey's in Ocean City. Needless to say, it's not supposed to be an island.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/285674_4945463077395_1970251495_n.jpg
PilotMan
10-29-2012, 10:52 AM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559363_522579497771370_244766545_n.jpg
sterlingice
10-29-2012, 10:53 AM
I'm guessing this is 99L? The European model has it doing some odd things. The most likely scenario is still that it just blows harmlessly out to the Atlantic like your typical October storm
SI
Please disregard this post from last week. D'oh
SI
Easy Mac
10-29-2012, 12:35 PM
fake. Incredible Viral Soldier Pic Debunked by Military (http://mashable.com/2012/10/29/viral-soldier-pic-debunked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29)
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 12:37 PM
What's with the guns?
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 12:39 PM
Dola -
When is this thing officially supposed to reach land? I've been off-the-grid for a the past couple days.
stevew
10-29-2012, 12:39 PM
I knew that was fake immediately.
CleBrownsfan
10-29-2012, 12:41 PM
<script src="http://player.ooyala.com/player.js?height=360&deepLinkEmbedCode=N5aTFoNDqcH2Om9Qcx0FL-YuiHIAurjs&embedCode=N5aTFoNDqcH2Om9Qcx0FL-YuiHIAurjs&width=640&video_pcode=hvZXE6LAucDf6RdQ6h18j_W_oNxg"></script>
Nothing like what is happening to the east coast but Lake Erie is stirring up a bit. Attached is a live video near downtown Cleveland harbor.
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 12:43 PM
Brownsfan...do you have an outside link to that? I tried to send it to my wife, but it's just an Operationsports url.
CleBrownsfan
10-29-2012, 12:45 PM
sure:
hxxp://fox8.com/2012/10/29/live-video-massive-lake-erie-waves/
sterlingice
10-29-2012, 12:46 PM
I knew that was fake immediately.
Sportsdigs knew it was fake 2 weeks ago
SI
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 12:50 PM
sure:
hxxp://fox8.com/2012/10/29/live-video-massive-lake-erie-waves/
Couldn't help but notice that this was posted at the top of the page you linked me to...
"Posted on: 10:15 am, October 29, 2012, by Lindsay Buckingham, updated on: 10:32am, October 29, 2012"
CleBrownsfan
10-29-2012, 12:52 PM
Yeah - not really sure what that means. I know it's a live feed. Maybe Fox posted the feed on the site at that time?
stevew
10-29-2012, 12:54 PM
Sportsdigs knew it was fake 2 weeks ago
SI
If I've learned one thing about Facebook, it's that people worship our military. I just assume nearly every soldier story is fake.
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 12:55 PM
Yeah - not really sure what that means. I know it's a live feed. Maybe Fox posted the feed on the site at that time?
I was referring to the name on the feed. Just kind of an odd coincidence.
My wife said she just watched somebody ride by on a bike. What the hell is wrong with people? Why do some folks just not get that humans are insignificant and puny, and nature can easily wipe us out without so much as a blink?
Ben E Lou
10-29-2012, 01:00 PM
Some mildly positive news, it would appear: Sandy has sped up considerably (27mph), so it'll get to the coast well before high tide now. Earlier, it was looking like it would coincide with high tide.
Comey
10-29-2012, 01:00 PM
Where I live, in Mystic, CT, there has already been severe flooding. The Weather Channel broadcast from where I work on the weekends, at the YMCA. I took sunset pictures from their exact location two weeks ago. Seeing them there was rather surreal.
I took off last night, as I live along the bay. It is almoat assuredly under water now, and it will get worse during the week. I don't know when I can return.
This isn't looking good, obviously. As I write this, the winds are really beginning to pick up in Fairfield.
Ben E Lou
10-29-2012, 01:01 PM
Dola: still strengthening a bit, though. Down to 940.
Suicane75
10-29-2012, 01:04 PM
Saw someone on WX facebook page that it's turning slightly south and the guy said it could make land in DE and not AC. Selfishly I hope that's the case.
Ben E Lou
10-29-2012, 01:08 PM
Saw someone on WX facebook page that it's turning slightly south and the guy said it could make land in DE and not AC. Selfishly I hope that's the case.Honestly, at this point I'm not sure how much that level of detail matters much, given the size of this storm. And if it moves slightly to the south of you, that could actually increase the storm surge a bit in your area.
Eaglesfan27
10-29-2012, 01:11 PM
Honestly, at this point I'm not sure how much that level of detail matters much, given the size of this storm. And if it moves slightly to the south of you, that could actually increase the storm surge a bit in your area.
Exactly. This thing is massive. Already getting some flooding at our hospital in AC.
Suicane75
10-29-2012, 01:12 PM
I'm on the NJ/PA border dead in the middle of the state so it'll probably help a bit. At this point I'm hoping for any bit of good news. But yeah, the size of it probably makes that not matter. I'm just hoping nothing comes down around me.
Suicane75
10-29-2012, 01:15 PM
Dola. A few minutes ago the front page of WeatherChannel.com had the headline "Megastorm In NY", which I think is kind of insulting to the people are gonna and already have been hit hardest by this.
ISiddiqui
10-29-2012, 01:18 PM
Argh... my family lives in Toms River, NJ - which is like 5 miles from the Bay and 7-8 miles from the Ocean - and they decided to stay at home instead of evacuating or going to one of the shelters in the town (at the local high schools, including my old one). Grumble.
Passacaglia
10-29-2012, 01:39 PM
fake. Incredible Viral Soldier Pic Debunked by Military (http://mashable.com/2012/10/29/viral-soldier-pic-debunked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29)
But it looks like there are real pics of pretty much the same thing linked to in that article?
Aylmar
10-29-2012, 01:40 PM
But it looks like there are real pics of pretty much the same thing linked to in that article?
It's a real pic, they just said it was from September and not today (according to the Old Guard Twitter linked there in the article). Unless I missed something...
molson
10-29-2012, 01:44 PM
But they are out there, 24/7 through this Hurricane like every other one and every other weather event. So, if you went there right now and stood in the right place you could get the same photo. So it's kind of an irrelevant "debunking".
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 01:47 PM
But they are out there, 24/7 through this Hurricane like every other one and every other weather event. So, if you went there right now and stood in the right place you could get the same photo. So it's kind of an irrelevant "debunking".
Actually, I believe they are removed from post during severe weather events like a hurricane, those just don't hit Arlington/DC very often.
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 01:48 PM
One of the trees in my front yard just cussed at me when I ran out to get the mail and newspaper.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 01:52 PM
But they are out there, 24/7 through this Hurricane like every other one and every other weather event. So, if you went there right now and stood in the right place you could get the same photo. So it's kind of an irrelevant "debunking".
actually its not raining very hard, or windy at all now. I get your point, but its still not what people say it is.
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 01:56 PM
actually its not raining very hard, or windy at all now. I get your point, but its still not what people say it is.
It is in NoVa, at least it was. We've had two very strong bands come through and there are limbs/small trees down. The drainage ditch running through the back of my property is already flooded (about a 2 foot ditch). It's not horrible yet, but it's been pretty rough a couple of times already.
Passacaglia
10-29-2012, 01:58 PM
But they are out there, 24/7 through this Hurricane like every other one and every other weather event. So, if you went there right now and stood in the right place you could get the same photo. So it's kind of an irrelevant "debunking".
This is what I meant. The facebook page debunking the picture even shows real pictures of them during Sandy.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 01:59 PM
It is in NoVa, at least it was. We've had two very strong bands come through and there are limbs/small trees down. The drainage ditch running through the back of my property is already flooded (about a 2 foot ditch). It's not horrible yet, but it's been pretty rough a couple of times already.
really? im 8 miles from Arlington, and we've had a steady drizzle, and some gusts, but nothing to get worked up about. I guess that shows how much weather can vary :)
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 02:02 PM
really? im 8 miles from Arlington, and we've had a steady drizzle, and some gusts, but nothing to get worked up about. I guess that shows how much weather can vary :)
Just saw a video of a tree going down in Georgetown. It's bizarro world out there. I've got a few friends in Rockville that claim they've had sunlight today.
Here's the video from CWG, scroll down to the 2:42 posting.
Hurricane Sandy: live updates (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/liveblog/wp/2012/10/29/live-blog-hurricane-sandy-news/?hpid=z2)
Subby
10-29-2012, 02:08 PM
We are in NoVA inside the beltway, north of 1-66. It is raining heavily and the wind is gusting hard. And it looks the the trees are going to be uprooted any second. And this is nothing compared to what's coming after the sun goes down.
It's scary as shit.
molson
10-29-2012, 02:08 PM
Actually, I believe they are removed from post during severe weather events like a hurricane, those just don't hit Arlington/DC very often.
The news articles, like this one from Hurricane Irene, usually say they've been there continuously 24/7 since 1937, though, I guess they have the option of standing under an adjacent tent (though I doubt they use that very often). I don't know for sure either way, but that's what I've always read.
Still Vigilant at the Tomb of the Unknowns Despite Irene - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricanes/vigilant-tomb-unknowns-irene/story?id=14397525#.UI7TxMXR4kc)
JPhillips
10-29-2012, 02:09 PM
Argh... my family lives in Toms River, NJ - which is like 5 miles from the Bay and 7-8 miles from the Ocean - and they decided to stay at home instead of evacuating or going to one of the shelters in the town (at the local high schools, including my old one). Grumble.
God bless. That isn't where I'd want to be over the next 24 hours.
terpkristin
10-29-2012, 02:16 PM
Just saw a video of a tree going down in Georgetown. It's bizarro world out there. I've got a few friends in Rockville that claim they've had sunlight today.
Here's the video from CWG, scroll down to the 2:42 posting.
Hurricane Sandy: live updates (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/liveblog/wp/2012/10/29/live-blog-hurricane-sandy-news/?hpid=z2)
I gotta say, Ashburn's had some crazy gusting, too. More than I expected. And then rain has been nuts.
/tk
Eaglesfan27
10-29-2012, 02:19 PM
It is getting very nasty here in Galloway.
stevew
10-29-2012, 02:22 PM
Looking at some of the Norfolk flooding. Wow, I used to live in Ocean View, which is covered. And Ghent doesn't look all that hot either now.
Ron Mexico
10-29-2012, 02:23 PM
Starting to feel it outside of Trenton as well-- the rain hasn't been terrible yet, but there's been a couple big blasts of wind gusts in the past 30 min or so. I would say 40+ mph winds.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 02:24 PM
we have just gotten some huge gusts here... also, I want to be a strom reporter when I grow up.
digamma
10-29-2012, 02:32 PM
Stay safe all.
Suicane75
10-29-2012, 02:38 PM
Starting to feel it outside of Trenton as well-- the rain hasn't been terrible yet, but there's been a couple big blasts of wind gusts in the past 30 min or so. I would say 40+ mph winds.
I'm about 30 minutes north of you and the gusts here are already worrying me, and like Subby said, the worst isn't even here. If it weren't for my grandmother I'd be out of here right now.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 02:42 PM
CNN said we would "really feel it" in 10 hours, so 1 AM.
DaddyTorgo
10-29-2012, 02:42 PM
Love my apartment building. Great construction *sarcasm*. Ground floor unit...middle of the building...I already have two dripping spots from my ceiling.
DaddyTorgo
10-29-2012, 02:53 PM
dola
and a leak coming from the exterior-facing wall...somewhere around the window. Just discovered a nice little "mini lake" back there.
ISiddiqui
10-29-2012, 02:53 PM
God bless. That isn't where I'd want to be over the next 24 hours.
Thanks man! I was definitely going WTF when my sis-in-law told me they are waiting it out at home. I mean they live in a county called "Ocean County". When a hurricane hits, basically it is time to flee for more inland areas.
JediKooter
10-29-2012, 02:55 PM
Just talked to my dad (he's in Rhode Island) and he said they lost power and winds are gusting around 60mph right now. They aren't too far from the ocean, but, they are about 300 feet up in elevation, so they should be ok as far as flooding goes. Now trees, different story.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 03:06 PM
Gov is closed again tomorrow, ill be working if I have power.... stupid emergency personnel!
General Mike
10-29-2012, 03:20 PM
Took my dog for a walk about 20 minutes ago. Definitely feeling the gusts, especially after having a small branch whipped into my face by the wind.
sterlingice
10-29-2012, 03:23 PM
It's a downright pleasant 76 here with a light breeze from the north... oh, wait
SI
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 03:28 PM
Conditions worsen on Chincoteague; curfew called | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com (http://hamptonroads.com/2012/10/sandy-prompts-causeway-closing-chinoteaque)
The VA islands, this is Chincoteague in particular, are getting completely covered in flood water. You can click the picture at the top left and scroll through the 4 they have posted.
Hearing now the DC area will get it's biggest impact from 8pm-4am. Still not likely to see repair crews out until Wednesday.
Leroy Veritas
10-29-2012, 03:33 PM
BTW, there are now feet of snow projected for WV and the Appalachians nearby. The blizzard warning, which is part of this system, has extended all the way to Charlottesville.
Ron Mexico
10-29-2012, 03:33 PM
Just had probably the worst gust yet-- this one had to be damn near 60+.
My grandparents used to live in Spring Lake Heights across the street from Wreck Pond. I could only imagine had they still been around.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 03:40 PM
55 mph winds here now, nothing big down yet. but weve had over 3 inches of rain so far....
Eaglesfan27
10-29-2012, 04:02 PM
Winds even faster and power out here now.
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 04:04 PM
good thing is the storm is speeding up (speed not wind) so it will be over sooner. looks like its just about to shore in AC and OC Jersey...
BishopMVP
10-29-2012, 04:10 PM
Dola. A few minutes ago the front page of WeatherChannel.com had the headline "Megastorm In NY", which I think is kind of insulting to the people are gonna and already have been hit hardest by this.That's usually the case though - I remember with Katrina it was Mississippi that got hit hardest, but the focus was on New Orleans because that's where the population density was.
GoBuckeyes
10-29-2012, 04:19 PM
They've been clocking 70mph gusts here on Long Island, but not that much for rain..and power is still on here, but I'm knocking some serious wood!
molson
10-29-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm knocking some serious wood!
I don't know what that means but it sounds dirty.
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 04:23 PM
That busted crane in NYC looks deadly. It's almost guaranteed to break off at some point during the night, and if the gust is strong enough, it could fly off and impale itself into a high-rise.
Very scary.
sabotai
10-29-2012, 04:24 PM
A section of the boardwalk in AC was washed away.
sterlingice
10-29-2012, 04:26 PM
Ben, I think we can take the "Nor'easter" option off of the title ;)
SI
jeff061
10-29-2012, 04:28 PM
And there goes the power.
DaddyTorgo
10-29-2012, 04:31 PM
And there goes the power.
Oh shit - mine's still on right down the road (for those who don't know, we live like...2 miles away from each other).
If it wasn't in the middle of the hurricane I'd say "come on down!"
Alan T
10-29-2012, 04:32 PM
Finally got my power back on. It had been out for about 4+ hours. Was sitting playing board games with the family and we got to watch our tree in the front yard go smash to the ground across the street. We were amazed that when it hit the power lines (we already had no power at this point), the tree actually splintered up and the lines didn't come down.
Still really crazy gusts here (around 60mph), so no idea how long I'll keep power. One of the bad things about living in the middle of nowhere.. in a wooded area :)
(and the lights flicker a bunch while typing this)
Sun Tzu
10-29-2012, 04:33 PM
Finally got my power back on. It had been out for about 4+ hours. Was sitting playing board games with the family and we got to watch our tree in the front yard go smash to the ground across the street. We were amazed that when it hit the power lines (we already had no power at this point), the tree actually splintered up and the lines didn't come down.
Still really crazy gusts here (around 60mph), so no idea how long I'll keep power. One of the bad things about living in the middle of nowhere.. in a wooded area :)
(and the lights flicker a bunch while typing this)
Glad you're safe and the tree fell in the other direction.
Oh, and uh, pix or it never happened.
GrantDawg
10-29-2012, 04:33 PM
Ben, I think we can take the "Nor'easter" option off of the title ;)
SI
Actually, it is way more a nor'easter than a hurricane at this point. It is already breaking down into a post-tropical storm, but in this case it is still a huge surge-making storm.
Masked
10-29-2012, 04:43 PM
I'm still on Cape Cod. Little rain so far, but the winds have been very strong for the past couple of hours. We still have power, however, my sister in Arlington Mass lost hers a few hours ago.
BishopMVP
10-29-2012, 04:56 PM
No problems yet for me in Waltham, about 15 minutes from both Arlington and Wellesley. Not sure how accurate this map is, but the power outages certainly appear to be spread over the whole state but not total in any one area, although the Cape appears pretty close. One of the two towns that feed the HS I work at (Carlisle) is almost 100% affected too, but that's not surprising (small town, wooded area, lots of space between homes, not businesses). I don't think the other, much larger one (Concord) shows up because power is run through a town utility and not any company. - http://www.boston.com/news/weather/specials/sandy_power_outage_map/
(http://www.boston.com/news/weather/specials/sandy_power_outage_map/)
EagleFan
10-29-2012, 05:16 PM
Still have power at my sister's. No idea what is happening back at my house though, I can only hope for the best.
PilotMan
10-29-2012, 05:17 PM
Rerouted. I'm in Raleigh tonight. You guys take care in all of this.
PilotMan
10-29-2012, 05:24 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/391713_515782751766490_1965545316_n.jpg
sterlingice
10-29-2012, 05:34 PM
But could you imagine what a golden sombrero would look like on a hurricane?
SI
claphamsa
10-29-2012, 06:15 PM
i think im drunk!
lets go play in the rain.
Abe Sargent
10-29-2012, 06:43 PM
Cable and Internet were down for about two hours, just came back
Abe Sargent
10-29-2012, 06:46 PM
Lights have been flickering here north of Phily about ten times int e hlast hour, and I fear it's only a minute of time until teh bad happens. Winds are CRAZY right now.
Buccaneer
10-29-2012, 06:47 PM
Be safe everyone and please stay inside.
Abe Sargent
10-29-2012, 06:49 PM
Just in case I'm not here in ten minutes,allow me to give you my Lena of the Day.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BTQT02pupR0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
And in case i'm out tomorrow too, here's your Lena for then as well
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8QSgNM9yNjo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Abe Sargent
10-29-2012, 06:51 PM
Now that I'm seeing these winds for myself, I will be shocked if my power does not go down
Buccaneer
10-29-2012, 06:54 PM
I've been watching weather.com most of the afternoon. The Chesapeake region is one that I have frequently traveled about including stays in Ocean City and the Delaware Beaches two of the past three summers. Sad to see all that damage.
Ben E Lou
10-29-2012, 06:58 PM
Actually, it is way more a nor'easter than a hurricane at this point. It is already breaking down into a post-tropical storm, but in this case it is still a huge surge-making storm.Yup. Winds are still at 85mph, but no longer a hurricane.
JPhillips
10-29-2012, 07:02 PM
We lost power for about 20 minutes and miraculously it came back on. Winds are pretty crazy here, but we've had very little rain.
Ben E Lou
10-29-2012, 07:03 PM
Wow. Christie just threw the mayor of Atlantic City under the bus big-time.
Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/29/sandy-sot-gov-christie-presser-atlantic-city-evacuation.news-12-new-jersey)
General Mike
10-29-2012, 07:05 PM
Counting down the minutes til the power goes out for good.
JPhillips
10-29-2012, 07:19 PM
The swaying crane in Manhattan is crazy.
Thomkal
10-29-2012, 07:20 PM
We lost power for about 20 minutes and miraculously it came back on. Winds are pretty crazy here, but we've had very little rain.
My sister-in-law in the Marlboro area lost power for about 2 hours but came back recently.
EagleFan
10-29-2012, 07:22 PM
Wow. Christie just threw the mayor of Atlantic City under the bus big-time.
Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/29/sandy-sot-gov-christie-presser-atlantic-city-evacuation.news-12-new-jersey)
It as rather stupid of the mayor to tell people to stay. Politics in AC have been a joke for quite some time. The general rule is that if you are looking to find a corrupt politician just look at AC and one will be running the show there.
JPhillips
10-29-2012, 07:22 PM
Wow. Christie just threw the mayor of Atlantic City under the bus big-time.
Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/29/sandy-sot-gov-christie-presser-atlantic-city-evacuation.news-12-new-jersey)
What a dick. Now is not the time for those sorts of attacks.
edit: Read up a bit, and this is the latest in a long running feud between Christie and the mayor.
Easy Mac
10-29-2012, 07:26 PM
Deadspin is down. Damn you hurricane.
BishopMVP
10-29-2012, 07:52 PM
Sounds like New York/Manhattan are starting to get bad flooding - I think high tide is still an hour or so out. http://twitter.yfrog.com/odipnjjj
JPhillips
10-29-2012, 08:01 PM
Where the West Side Highway goes into the Brooklyn/Battery tunnel there is a rushing waterfall. The whole tunnel may fill up at this rate.
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