Official College Football Week 9 Thread

[cartman]

This week's games kick off tonight with a Sun Belt matchup between Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette. Here are the games between two Top 25 teams (based on the BCS rankings) this weekend:

Mississippi State at Alabama
Florida vs. Georgia (World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party in Jacksonville)
Texas Tech at Kansas State
Notre Dame at Oklahoma

[Butter]

Bill Snyder working the magic at K-State again. It's pretty impressive.

Anxious to finally see Notre Dame lose. Their run has been all quaint and stuff, but they're WAY overrated right now.

[Matthean]

Michigan at Nebraska for what could be the chance to play Wisconsin in the Big Ten title game. If Michigan wins, they could still lose to OSU and get in. I've watched enough MSU football that if Iowa has a worse QB, I like Michigan's odds of beating them. :lol:

[General Mike]

Tuesday Night Sun Belt action on ESPN2 as ULaLa hosts Arkansas State Red Wolves.

Could be interesting as both head coaches could be in line for bigger things in the near future.

[Eaglesfan27]

Bill Snyder working the magic at K-State again. It's pretty impressive.

Anxious to finally see Notre Dame lose. Their run has been all quaint and stuff, but they're WAY overrated right now.

Agreed on all points.

[sterlingice]

Bill Snyder working the magic at K-State again. It's pretty impressive.

I can't think of a better job coaching in the last 30 years than Bill Snyder.

SI

[Chief Rum]

UCLA travels to ASU in a Pac12 matchup of 5-2 teams. This is a huge game for new coaches in both programs.

UCLA has underwhelmed since Nebraska and need a quality road win to show they're aren't the same ole Bruins. ASU needs to show they're not as bad as Oregon made them look last week.

Adding to the spice of it is that UCLA's star freshman QB Brett Hundley is from the Phoenix area, and UCLA is actively recruiting ASU's backyard and bringing out players.

[Chief Rum]

I can't think of a better job coaching in the last 30 years than Bill Snyder.

SI

Agreed. Just amazing.

[MacroGuru]

BYU @ GT - Let's see if the Cougars can right the ship. We had ND on the ropes and then we couldn't stop the run in the 2nd half.....oh and our QB missed a wide open receiver by at least 10 yards, not down the field...but to his right and behind him.....

[Butter]

I can't think of a better job coaching in the last 30 years than Bill Snyder.

SI

I don't know if people realized just how good it was until he left for a few years. Now, it's like he never left... except now they can win the big games occasionally. I remember in the '90's, they could never seem to beat Nebraska.

[I. J. Reilly]

Looks like Mannion will be back under center for Oregon State this week at UW. Two weeks removed from knee surgery and he’s back; modern medical science never ceases to amaze.

As for the game, it feels like OSU just has to worry about OSU. If they just execute their base stuff it should be enough for a win. That’s kind of been the formula all year; don’t make any mistakes and let Wheaton and Cooks make the big play when it’s there. What’s your take Lathum and Dawgfan?

[Chief Rum]

Not Lathum or dawgfan, but my opinion... I think it's going to be a tough battle, and who wants it more will get it. UDub is tough at home.

[Cap Ologist]

Glad to see A&M has an 'easy' game this week, if there is such a thing in the SEC. Hoping for wins against Auburn, Miss St and Mizzou to finish the year, don't want to get too greedy and hope for a win against Bama.

[panerd]

Mizzou takes on Kentucky for the battle of the worst of the SEC. :)

Hate to say it because I will always be a big time homer and hoped they could compete but not liking this move at all from the Big 12. I find myself watching KSU and OU games when Mizzou isn't on. SEC football just isn't that interesting. It's kind of like the AFC and NFC in the 90's or the AL and NL in baseball. The NFC and AL may have had better quality but I just couldn't ever get into the stlye of play.

[dawgfan]

Looks like Mannion will be back under center for Oregon State this week at UW. Two weeks removed from knee surgery and he’s back; modern medical science never ceases to amaze.

As for the game, it feels like OSU just has to worry about OSU. If they just execute their base stuff it should be enough for a win. That’s kind of been the formula all year; don’t make any mistakes and let Wheaton and Cooks make the big play when it’s there. What’s your take Lathum and Dawgfan?
Man, I just don't know anymore. This feels like a really important game for this team and their psyche. There seems to be cracks developing in the relationship between Keith Price and Sark, and obviously Sark needs to fix that or risk losing the team and seeing his seat get scalding hot heading into next year.

On paper, I think this ought to be a close game. This is probably a better match-up for UW's defense than Arizona was. The Beaver run game appears to be pretty bad - just 108 ypg and 3.1 ypc, and it doesn't look like it's weighed down too much by sacks.

UW has really struggled against the run, with the exception of the Stanford game where they could afford to totally sell-out to stop the run. They can't do that vs. Oregon State. If they can get away with not playing their jumbo defense while keeping Woods and Agnew from hurting them, they have a chance. Trufant is playing well enough that he should be able to limit either Wheaton or Cooks; the question will be the other CB, Marcus Peters. As well, can the UW defense get any pressure on Mannion. If the Huskies can get away with keeping the Beaver run game in check while having rush end Josh Shirley on the field, they can get some heat on Mannion.

Offensively, the Huskies are a mess. Their pass-blocking is terrible, which is bad news with Crichton coming to town. Price has happy feet and a real lack of confidence. What was really frustrating against Arizona was Sark's insistence on passing so much early in the game. Our running game actually isn't that bad, and Arizona was worse against the run than the pass. If Sark commits to the run game and continues to dial up a lot of horizontal pass plays and quick-hitters to protect Price from getting sacked, they might find some success.

The wildcard is the team psyche. They definitely play better at home, but they've also had a problem with slow starts all season. After the debacle last weekend, I wonder if this team will be able to circle the wagons and come out fired-up for themselves and their coach looking to make a statement, or if their confidence is so fragile that they will fold at the first sign of adversity and get blown out again.

[Dr. Sak]

Ohio State at Penn State has the chance to be a good game. The Buckeyes have looked vulnerable on defense and Penn State seems to be getting better every week.

[Matthean]

Ohio State at Penn State has the chance to be a good game. The Buckeyes have looked vulnerable on defense and Penn State seems to be getting better every week.

Even if the Big Ten is down this year, I would be stunned if OSU went through without a defeat. They are like the Irish in how they just feel like they have a loss coming.

[tarcone]

Bill Snyder working the magic at K-State again. It's pretty impressive.

Anxious to finally see Notre Dame lose. Their run has been all quaint and stuff, but they're WAY overrated right now.


I agree as well.

Iowa gets Northwestern. This should be as exciting as watching grass grow. Or maybe paint dry.
But I will be watching and hoping our QB gets his act together.

Go Hawks!

[BishopMVP]

Bill Snyder working the magic at K-State again. It's pretty impressive.

Anxious to finally see Notre Dame lose. Their run has been all quaint and stuff, but they're WAY overrated right now.Talked about too much by ESPN etc, sure, but I don't think ND is that overrated right now. They're coming off two narrow home wins and they're 10 point underdogs this week - that seems about right. Maybe they should be around 10, not 5 in the polls, but its CFB - you can't throw the 1-loss teams ahead of them, and none of the other undefeated ones deserve a top 5 spot yet either. Defensively, the front 7 is one of the tops in the country, and while the secondary remains untested it hasn't looked consistently bad yet. (i.e. they'll have one or two big breakdowns a game letting receivers get wide open deep, but show an ability to cover people/make plays most of the time, unlike the Patriots or a Texas Tech.) Offensively, while Golson is no Collin Klein, they have shown a pretty good power running game when they commit to it, although that seems to happen all too infrequently. Overall, follow the K-State gameplan (power running, keep OU off the field, hope OU doesn't hit any home run plays or jump out to an early lead, hopefully win the turnover battle) and I think ND has a decent chance, but I can also see OU jumping out to an early lead at home and running away with it.

Speaking of the other undefeated teams, I liked this line about Mississippi State16. Mississippi State (7-0). Bulldogs have yet to beat another team with a winning record, but back-to-back-to-back dates with Alabama, Texas A&M and LSU over the next three weeks are a ... uh, golden opportunity?

[Butter]

Even if the Big Ten is down this year, I would be stunned if OSU went through without a defeat. They are like the Irish in how they just feel like they have a loss coming.

I have the same feeling about PSU. They are not going to run the conference table.

[Matthean]

I have the same feeling about PSU. They are not going to run the conference table.

I don't see them surviving OSU, @Nebraska, and Wisconsin. There's definitely a loss there as well. The toughest Big Ten team they have faced is Northwestern.

[Matthean]

OSU and Oregon to play a each other 2020-2021.

Oregon Ducks, Ohio State Buckeyes to play home-and-home series in 2020-21 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8543353/oregon-ducks-ohio-state-buckeyes-play-home-home-series-2020-21)

[Chief Rum]

OSU and Oregon to play a each other 2020-2021.

Oregon Ducks, Ohio State Buckeyes to play home-and-home series in 2020-21 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8543353/oregon-ducks-ohio-state-buckeyes-play-home-home-series-2020-21)

2020-21? Sheesh... what are the chances either Kelly or Meyer will still be there at that point. Kelly will be in the NFL, and Meyer will probably work himself to death before then.

[Matthean]

2020-21? Sheesh... what are the chances either Kelly or Meyer will still be there at that point. Kelly will be in the NFL, and Meyer will probably work himself to death before then.

I think it's low that either are there.

[Butter]

Ohio St. and Texas announced a similar series for 2022 and 2023 a few weeks ago. I thought the same thing then.

[Lathum]

amazing how some guys really just don't get it

Tyrann Mathieu, former LSU Tigers cornerback, arrested on drug charges -- report - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8552111/tyrann-mathieu-former-lsu-tigers-cornerback-arrested-drug-charges-report)

[mckerney]

amazing how some guys really just don't get it

Tyrann Mathieu, former LSU Tigers cornerback, arrested on drug charges -- report - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8552111/tyrann-mathieu-former-lsu-tigers-cornerback-arrested-drug-charges-report)

After Mathieu, 20, gave the police his consent to search the apartment...

WHAT? Why isn't someone teaching these kids to just say no?

[cschex]

The best part is that the police were alerted because Jordan Jefferson, beloved LSU alumnus, was trying to force his way into the apartment complex security gate.

At least no current players were involved. See ya HB

[Tigercat]

Two most dominant LSU players I have ever seen: Badger and Cecil Collins. Neither could get their head on straight to stay on the college field. Such a shame. Unlike Collins, I think Mathieu has what it takes to get his life in order eventually to make an impact in the NFL.

[Matthean]

He's costing himself millions due to what his stock is going to be like when he goes pro.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Proof once again that, yes, that shit will make you stupid.

[Easy Mac]

If Mizzou loses this game, technically Mizzou B-ball fan will be right.

2012 College Football Offseason - Only two more weeks left of this thread! - Page 14 - Front Office Football Central (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=2733953#post2733953)

[Ben E Lou]

This dude nailed GA-FL.

This Game Has National Championship Implications? | Run Lindsay Run (http://dawgred.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/this-game-has-national-championship-implications/)

This Game Has National Championship Implications?
Posted on October 26, 2012 by Spence

Georgia sits at 6-1, will control its own destiny in winning the SEC, and will undoubtedly have a chance to play for a national title if it emerges from the SEC the champion.

Why do those facts not matter to me in the slightest?

Here is what I know: I miss my team. The team from the early 2000s that could whip LSU’s ass or beat a meaningful Auburn or Tennessee team. The one that I saw in 2002 that I knew could have won the national championship if the chips had fallen differently. DJ’s 2005 team. Hell, even the 2007 team from the end of the season.

All I want to see this weekend is my team show up. The debacles and bed-wettings that have gone on for the past four years have drained Dawg fans of hope, but it’s something more than that. While we can write up on paper why UGA can win on Saturday, nobody thinks it can happen. If someone offered me 100 to 1 odds for a UGA victory but said I had to empty my life-savings to make the bet, I would never take it.

Florida’s offense is not so good that they should score much more than 20 points. Georgia’s defense should be good enough to limit them to less. Georgia’s offense is not so bad that it should score less than 20 points. It should be good enough to score more than 25 points against any defense.

But here is where our old friends special teams, turnovers, and defensive short fields sit in the back of the room, smoking cheap cigars, farting without regard for the women-folk, smiling at you. They’re here. We can’t ignore them. We know they’re going to cause trouble sooner or later. What’s so goddamn hard as a modern-day Georgia fan, and as someone who knows what this stupid game does to our team, is that there is no way we play a clean enough game to avoid our old friends crashing the party.

But it’s even more than that. We just hope to see a team that’s testicles have descended. And we’re constantly disappointed.

Here’s all I want – I want to not give up a kickoff return past midfield. I want to return a punt. I want to be able to get 3 yards on a 3rd and 2. I want Shawn Williams to not be declared an honorary member of the Gators after the game for his shit-talking and antics. I want to see Aaron Murray remember he’s had sex with a girl before. I just want our team to show up and play like I know they can. For once (no, Vandy does not count).

If Florida has in one season gone from a 6-5 team to a National Championship contender, so be it. But I don’t buy it. Maybe they’re more talented than us this year (because we lost Ben Jones, Bean, Boykin, and Boling? Ever notice how many B’s there are in there?) but I don’t buy it. Maybe Muschamp is a really great coach, but I don’t buy it.

I don’t care about playing in the SEC championship game. I’m not going to pretend we will beat Bama or that we’ll play for the title if we win in Jacksonville. Just please don’t let Florida have reclaimed their spot on the perch, and please don’t prove to me that we are the world’s most underachieving “elite” program in history. For some reason I feel like I, and every Georgia fan out there, are just waiting to see that happen.

Georgia needs to play not like an SEC championship or national title is on the line. What’s on the line is our manhood, plain and simple. Nothing else matters.

Shawn Williams is a loud-mouth that needs to learn when to shut up and when to speak his mind. But everything he said is right. We are soft, lazy, and mentally unfocused. I’m watching this game to find out if some other team will finally take the field and reclaim what we’ve lost. The collective sigh of disappointment after the South Carolina game was because it was a lost chance. This is our last chance.

Go Dawgs. Please.

[Matthean]

I don't see Georgia winning this since it is on the road and they are the anti-Florida in terms of toughness. We'll find out about Florida once they play @FSU and possibly 'Bama in the SEC title game.

[Passacaglia]

I agree as well.

Iowa gets Northwestern. This should be as exciting as watching grass grow. Or maybe paint dry.
But I will be watching and hoping our QB gets his act together.

Go Hawks!

May be boring, but I'd still rather watch it instead of Ohio State/Penn State, since it might be meaningful for the Big Ten Championship Game.

[Wolfpack]

It's that time again. Time for portions of the State marching band to hitch a ride to Chapel Hill and utterly ruin an evening of studying by playing State songs over and over again. Time to see just how balanced the crowd at Kenan Stadium will be between red and light blue (and gleaming aluminum). Time to hoist signs in Kenan trolling the "flagship" university for all their student-athletes' achievements (up to and including plagiarizing the work of 11-year-olds by a member of this year's football team). Time for Tom O'Brien to continue to hang his coaching reputation hat on the one game that he's always won.

It's time for...

GO TO HELL, CAROLINA! GO STATE!

[Leroy Veritas]

Who told Missouri it was okay to put on jerseys that look like Wyoming's slow, unadoptable cousin?

[mauchow]

Feel free to lose to Kansas, Texas. And then feel free to blame it on the Longhorn Network.

[mauchow]

Oh, shit, Lattimore just took a shot to the knee. He was already getting brought down by a linebacker then the DB comes in and takes his knees out. Jesus. I hate to see that. C'mon, man..

[JonInMiddleGA]

Lattimore carted off, looks very bad for the knee.

But I don't think I've ever seen a reaction quite like the one this got. Both benches emptied & players from both teams surrounding the cart to pay their respect, wish him well, etc.

One of the most special running backs I've watched at that level in quite a while, I've got nothing but good wishes & prayers for the kid.

[mauchow]

Unbelievable bad luck to be in the absolute wrong spot at wrong time, twice..

[miami_fan]

Man oh man! This sickness in the pit of my stomach is reminiscent of the McGahee injury.

[MizzouCowboy]

Yep, that is right up their with McGahee and Theismann.

And the video is already on deadspin.

[Matthean]

It is on ESPN as well. They seemed to get good at not showing the gruesome stuff, but I watched the clip and went, "I hope what I was wasn't what I think I saw."

[cuervo72]

I think I'd like these UNC helmets better with their usual light blue unis.

I don't think I want to see the Lattimore clip.

[Crapshoot]

This is why the NCAA is a fucking cartel - kid gets hurt, his career and paycheck may be over. I hope he's ok.

[Leroy Veritas]

Lattimore is starting to follow the career path of Marcus Dupree. That wasn't pretty at all. Hope the kid gets healthy enough to get a few NFL paychecks to help with the medical issues down the line.

[Matthean]

This is why the NCAA is a fucking cartel - kid gets hurt, his career and paycheck may be over. I hope he's ok.

You mean NFL paycheck. Yes, he might miss out of NFL sized paychecks but nothing really prevents him from getting a regular job.

[Matthean]

Brown likely saved himself from being asked to step down at the end of the year. He clearly needs to retire at this point but at least there will be less heat this week.

[cartman]

Texas doesn't seem to like the 11am kickoffs. The other one they had this season was the OU game, and they didn't really start to do anything until the 4th quarter of this game.

[Julio Riddols]

Sudfeld at QB = Indiana win.

[bhlloy]

Oregon up 14-0 on Colorado inside 2 minutes. This is gonna get ugly

[tarcone]

Iowa loses again. We may be lucky to win another game this season.
Our coach gets $1 million per win,.
I wish we paid him $13 million a year.

[Matthean]

I don't see Georgia winning this since it is on the road and they are the anti-Florida in terms of toughness. We'll find out about Florida once they play @FSU and possibly 'Bama in the SEC title game.

Oops. Florida vs. Georgia is @Georgia. ESPN has it mislabeled on Florida's page. This will be interesting.

[Danny]

I hope Oregon goes for triple digits. They wont, but I bet they could do it if they tried.

[Matthean]

It's like Oregon is giving a giant middle finger to the BCS system.

[bronconick]

Oops. Florida vs. Georgia is @Georgia. ESPN has it mislabeled on Florida's page. This will be interesting.


It's in Jacksonville. Like every other year.

[Galaril]

Wow Oregon is up on Colorado 49-0 with 6 minutes left in the 2nd qtr. They probably hang 80 on these guys. If they wanted the could probably score 115 on them.

[bob]

Florida looks awful.

[General Mike]

Rutgers looks terrible against Kent State

[BYU 14]

Hope we don't melt again. Without our QB's obligatory erratic throws and a special teams blunder we lead Georgia Tech 28-0 instead of 24-14 at HT.

[bob]

Hope we don't melt again. Without our QB's obligatory erratic throws and a special teams blunder we lead Georgia Tech 28-0 instead of 24-14 at HT.

Yeah, that was Tech's first KR for a TD since 1998.

[bob]

Despite having a 1 point lead, UGA fans are in full meltdown mode.

[Matthean]

MSU and Wisconsin have a combined 27 yards rushing early in the 3rd quarter and that's with Ball and Bell playing.

[cuervo72]

How much of this is great SEC defense and how much is a couple of quarterbacks playing like dipshits?

[bob]

How much of this is great SEC defense and how much is a couple of quarterbacks playing like dipshits?

Both look like dipshits to me.

[BYU 14]

Yeah, that was Tech's first KR for a TD since 1998.


Thankfully it looks like it won't hurt us now. Can't believe Jamaal Williams is 17, going to be great having him for 3 more seasons in Provo!!

[Wolfpack]

It's that time again. Time for portions of the State marching band to hitch a ride to Chapel Hill and utterly ruin an evening of studying by playing State songs over and over again. Time to see just how balanced the crowd at Kenan Stadium will be between red and light blue (and gleaming aluminum). Time to hoist signs in Kenan trolling the "flagship" university for all their student-athletes' achievements (up to and including plagiarizing the work of 11-year-olds by a member of this year's football team). Time for Tom O'Brien to continue to hang his coaching reputation hat on the one game that he's always won.

It's time for...

GO TO HELL, CAROLINA! GO STATE!

I guess it was time for the Notorious T.O.B. to find himself down 15-0 four minutes in (not unsual, sadly). I guess it was time for Glennon to turn in a monster performance for three quarters and put State ahead by 10 in the fourth quarter. I guess it was also time for the Notorious T.O.B. to go silly conservative and silly aggressive at all the wrong times in the fourth quarter (conservative early fourth in an attempt to sit on the lead, aggressive with about 4 minutes to go when we were finally running the ball well, then going into a coma in the final 90 seconds and praying for OT). I guess it was time for our special teams to commit a spectacular mistake and kick a punt directly to UNC's best player.

In short, I guess it was time for Carolina to finally win one in this series. :banghead:

[Scarecrow]

K-State taking their THIRD top 15 team to the woodshed. Hoping they might get at least a few first place votes...

[Matthean]

K-State taking their THIRD top 15 team to the woodshed. Hoping they might get at least a few first place votes...

If 'Bama beats up on MSU well enough it will be tough to take away votes from 'Bama. KSU's problem is that they don't have a conference title game to help boost their schedule. Oregon still has USC, Stanford, OSU, and the Pac 12 title game. KSU has Texas.

[Matthean]

Wisconsin has a total of -2 yards rushing and the game is in the fourth quarter.

[Lathum]

K-State taking their THIRD top 15 team to the woodshed. Hoping they might get at least a few first place votes...

not a chance they get any

[tarcone]

If Florida and Alabama lose will it be Oregon vs. K State?
Or will a SEC title winner keep one of them out?

[BillJasper]

K-State definitely deserves to be ranked #2. They're absolutely destroying teams.

[Matthean]

I don't see a one loss Florida team making the title game with two undefeated teams in play. 'Bama, maybe. I think too many people would love to see the SEC not involved in a title game.

[Lathum]

I really hope the PAC 12 is happy with their new network and fucking over Direct TV customers. I love my Huskies, but would never switch from Direct TV to cable just for that reason. I'll stream the games until they figure it out. The arrogance they are showing by thinking their product is good enough to make people switch is astonishing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I told you BYU folks you didn't have anything to worry about.

[BillJasper]

I really hope the PAC 12 is happy with their new network and fucking over Direct TV customers. I love my Huskies, but would never switch from Direct TV to cable just for that reason. I'll stream the games until they figure it out. The arrogance they are showing by thinking their product is good enough to make people switch is astonishing.

How is it any different than DirecTV and NFL Sunday Ticket? I'd love to have Sunday Ticket but settle for RedZone.

[cuervo72]

NFL >>> PAC 12

[Matthean]

Wisconsin and MSU take their offensive futility show into OT.

[Lathum]

How is it any different than DirecTV and NFL Sunday Ticket? I'd love to have Sunday Ticket but settle for RedZone.

I don't understand your question

[BillJasper]

I don't understand your question

You can't get Sunday Ticket on cable, I don't care. They don't want my money, I'm then more than happy to keep it.

[Lathum]

You can't get Sunday Ticket on cable, I don't care. They don't want my money, I'm then more than happy to keep it.

But it isn't remotely the same.

I live in Seattle, 3 miles from the campus, and I can't watch the game on TV. There is something very wrong with that.

If you are a fan of an NFL team and live in that market you can see all their games on the TV. Sunday ticket is more of a luxury item unless you live out of your teams market.

I don't think it is to much to ask to be able to see my own team in their market on all platforms.

[Matthean]

Wisconsin has to freaking hate MSU. MSU pretty much saves their season with a TD in OT.

[BillJasper]

I don't think it is to much to ask to be able to see my own team in their market on all platforms.

Evidently it is. :lol:

[Matthean]

Arizona up on USC, 32-28.

[Leroy Veritas]

Rutgers looks terrible against Kent State

Toledo > Cincinnati
Kent State > Rutgers
MAC > Big East

[Leroy Veritas]

Is Georgia actually going to win a big game under Mark Richt?

[General Mike]

Toledo > Cincinnati
Kent State > Rutgers
MAC > Big East

Louisville > Kentucky
Kentucky > Kent State

Paradox created

[BillJasper]

Heartbreaking way for Florida to lose.

[kcchief19]

Idiotic way for Florida to lose. Going airborne while handling the ball like that was an invitation for what happened.

[BYU 14]

I told you BYU folks you didn't have anything to worry about.


Was really surprised how easily we shut the running game down for the most part, though Bronco had plenty of practice preparing playing against AF all those years and we usually did well agains them.

Think Johnson is on the way out?

[Matthean]

Pick 6 for OSU. OSU up 14-7 on PSU.

[Danny]

Woot looks like USC will go down again

[kcchief19]

Bill Snyder has always been a heck of a coach, but the job he's doing this year is simply amazing. Del Miller is the passing game/QB coach, and he simply has been a miracle worker in his career in turning marginal talents into stars.

Other than Arthur Brown, not sure K-State has a four-star recruit on the team. Absolutely a monument to what great coaching can do.

[Danny]

Lee is a heck of a player though Hope Ari can hold on

[Matthean]

Big Ten teams are praying Oregon goes to the title game so USC goes to the Rose Bowl.

[Chief Rum]

Big Ten teams are praying Oregon goes to the title game so USC goes to the Rose Bowl.

Not so fast. USC may not even get out of the Pac 12 South.

[bronconick]

There's the proof that RichRod would have never fit in at Michigan.

Real Michigan Men don't ever beat USC.

[Matthean]

Not so fast. USC may not even get out of the Pac 12 South.

Would the Rose Bowl have to take the loser of the Pac 12 title game? That seems like a rather uninteresting option for them.

[Matthean]

PSU shooting themselves in the foot. OSU 21-10.

[Bigsmooth]

I really hope the PAC 12 is happy with their new network and fucking over Direct TV customers. I love my Huskies, but would never switch from Direct TV to cable just for that reason. I'll stream the games until they figure it out. The arrogance they are showing by thinking their product is good enough to make people switch is astonishing.

Yeah this is really starting to piss me off. UW and WSU both on Pac 12 Network today.

[mckerney]

Would the Rose Bowl have to take the loser of the Pac 12 title game? That seems like a rather uninteresting option for them.

BCS Explained, Bowl Championship Series (http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_explained.html)

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-12 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

(For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl.)

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

[Bigsmooth]

So, Auburn....wow.

[bronconick]

The Rose Bowl needs a 2nd team in the top 14 out of the PAC-12 if Oregon goes to the NCG. Not seeing it. If Oregon runs the table, USC would have four losses.

Edit: I guess they could have 3 by losing to ASU or UCLA and not going to the PAC12 title game.

[Matthean]

So, Auburn....wow.

Chizik will be gone after the 'Bama game if not before.

[mckerney]

Maybe we can get a rematch between Michigan and Notre Dame!

:(

[Matthean]

The Rose Bowl needs a 2nd team in the top 14 out of the PAC-12 if Oregon goes to the NCG. Not seeing it.

OSU would be in the Top 14 if they only lost to Oregon.

[Matthean]

Maybe we can get a rematch between Michigan and Notre Dame!

:(

ND would play elsewhere since in all likelihood 'Bama is pulled from the SEC bowl game and thus they get to pick first.

[Bigsmooth]

Manziel must've been insane last year in high school. Unbelievable.

[Matthean]

Alright, I used to be able to get WatchESPN, but this season I can't. I have AT&T and it even says AT&T sponsors it. I try every different option for provider but still a no go. I searched AT&T's website and got an e-mail address for ESPN. Joy.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Was really surprised how easily we shut the running game down for the most part, though Bronco had plenty of practice preparing playing against AF all those years and we usually did well agains them.
Think Johnson is on the way out?

Doubt it, but only because there may not be enough money to pay him to go away.

Fan base is pretty much over it, seems headed toward Hewitt/basketball levels of just-can't-care I think.

[MizzouRah]

Hey, Mizzou won!

[MizzouRah]

Maybe for the last time this season. :(

[Matthean]

Martinez 7/8 for 109 yards and a TD.
Robinson. 1/4 for -2 yards.

:banghead:

[sterlingice]

Feel free to lose to Kansas, Texas. And then feel free to blame it on the Longhorn Network.

We did indeed lose. I don't think it had anything to do with the Longhorn Network so much as our team's ineptitude. So close to finally beating Texas, too :(

SI

[mauchow]

We did indeed lose. I don't think it had anything to do with the Longhorn Network so much as our team's ineptitude. So close to finally beating Texas, too :(

SI
I could have phrased it a lot better but I meant to say "Texas, feel free to lose to Kansas.."

I was bummed by the final. I heard some soundbites saying that Texas is at a disadvantage because of the Longhorn Network.

[Matthean]

7-0 'Bama.

[cuervo72]

So, Auburn....wow.

Geez, no kidding.

Seems to be very little middle in the SEC. Teams are either in the top 15, or completely suck.*


* or are Vandy

[JonInMiddleGA]

* or are Vandy

Or Tennessee, at this point.

Until today only one team had ever had three straight 0-5 starts in conference play. There's now two of them, not many miles apart.

[Matthean]

Speaking of the SEC, blocked FG by 'Bama and quick march down the field makes it 14-0.

[cuervo72]

Or Tennessee, at this point.

Until today only one team had ever had three straight 0-5 starts in conference play. There's now two of them, not many miles apart.

I thought I covered Tennessee with the "completely suck" part. :) Though that's probably not fair given how closely they played the Gamecocks* (though maybe that says something about the Gamecocks...)

* or yeah, what has been a pretty hellacious schedule

[Matthean]

Michigan's last 6 scores have been FGs and there was a missed FG in there as well.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I thought I covered Tennessee with the "completely suck" part. :) Though that's probably not fair given how closely they played the Gamecocks (though maybe that says something about the Gamecocks...)

Said a lot more about the Poultry I think. I'm just not sure that "completely suck" adequately covers the hopelessness of UT football right now.

[cuervo72]

Heh.

[tarcone]

I thought Notre Dame was overrated. I may be changing my thinking. Then again, maybe not.

[Leroy Veritas]

Between the Stanford TD that wasn't, and the mute holding call, it appears a lot of guys not playing in the games have a vested interested in the ND no rushing TD allowed streak continuing.

[Matthean]

'Bama woodshedding MSU. 21-0.

[Matthean]

I thought Notre Dame was overrated. I may be changing my thinking. Then again, maybe not.

Stellar front seven, subpar secondary that has hardly been challenged until tonight. Decent running game with a smart mobile QB who has horrible accuracy and the luck of the Irish with the whole Stanford TD situation and Robinson crapping the bed.

[sterlingice]

What in god's name did Mississippi State do to get to #11 in the country? Other than being in the SEC, what makes them any different than #16 Syracuse or previously unbeaten #15 Rutgers or #24 Ohio? Ohio's win over Penn State is better than any other win any of those teams have.

SI

[cuervo72]

Yeah...actually, they've played a whole mess of crap, haven't they.

Though the whole rankings system...I'm looking at the ESPN scoreboard, and they keep flashing UPSET ALERT for NEB 7-6 up on UM. Why? They're both 5-2. Michigan is ranked, sure, but they really haven't done that much. Biggest thing is losing to two highly ranked teams.

[Matthean]

Michigan is screwed. Robinson is out and they have Bellomy in. He's like the backup QB who holds the clipboard and you never want to see play. Case in point, he's 0-6 with an INT. I wonder if Hoke is hell bent on not having Gardner being a QB.

[DougW]

Michigan is screwed. Robinson is out and they have Bellomy in. He's like the backup QB who holds the clipboard and you never want to see play. Case in point, he's 0-6 with an INT. I wonder if Hoke is hell bent on not having Gardner being a QB.

Dammit .. I DVR'd the UoM game to watch the Tiger game w/o flipping back & forth .. & couldn't resist looking at this thread :( .. What happened ?

[Matthean]

Dammit .. I DVR'd the UoM game to watch the Tiger game w/o flipping back & forth .. & couldn't resist looking at this thread :( .. What happened ?

Not sure. They switched back and forth playing for a couple of plays but then Robinson was done. Nebraska is only getting FGs, but Bellomy is 0-9 so...16-6 Nebraska.

[Matthean]

RE: Robinson. Nerve in elbow. Makes it hard to throw. Not like he could anyway. Hey oh. :lol:

[DougW]

Makes it hard to throw. Not like he could anyway. Hey oh. :lol:

haha, nice. :lol:

[tarcone]

RE: Robinson. Nerve in elbow. Makes it hard to throw. Not like he could anyway. Hey oh. :lol:

Might even improve his throwing.

[Matthean]

Bellomy is 2-17 with 3 INTs on the season. Yes, he's more likely to have the opponent catch the ball than his own teammate.

[tarcone]

Rushing TD by OU. Open the flood gates!

[Matthean]

This might feel like the longest half in Michigan history.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Watching the Tigers. Checking on the Michigan game. Neither is pretty.

Can we lobby to move Bellomy to WR?

[tarcone]

Notre Dame shutting the door on OU.

[cuervo72]

Man OU, you are really wrecking my fun.

[SirFozzie]

Looks like Notre Dame could survive..

[SirFozzie]

BIG long FG under pressure to put ND up 10..

[SirFozzie]

That should have been a safety in three or four different ways..

[TroyF]

Notre Dame shutting the door on OU.

I've never been a ND fan, but it's really not their fault. The announcers in this game are showing why I hate it so much when they are good. I'm waiting for the two announcers to start talking about licking the sweat off of all the ND players nuts after the game.

Don't get me wrong, this is an impressive win. . . but the announcers started talking about the win with about 14 minutes left and OU driving to tie the game. They must have said "there is still time for OU to win" about forty times in the last quarter of a one score game. Meanwhile, Herbstreet just talked about how ND is the most impressive team this week. Look, I don't really like KState either, but I think they just slaughtered yet another top 20 team today.

I'll admit it, I didn't think ND had a chance in hell of winning this game. They have impressed me beyond belief and it is clear to me this is a BCS team now on merit. I think they are going to USC with a chance to go to the title game. (and if that title game is ND vs Alabama, I'll be pissed at not being able to cheer for a team in the champ game again)

But I really hated listening to the announcers this final quarter. That was the most painful quarter of football I have listened to in a long, long time.

[mckerney]

Either an amazing play to find a receiver or incredibly luck to have someone where he was throwing it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Look, I don't really like KState either, but I think they just slaughtered yet another top 20 team today.

Difference being, I think, that Texas Tech was maybe a top 20 team, whereas Oklahoma has been one all year. Three weeks ago TT wasn't even ranked.

edit to add: Even with this loss OU is still a top 20 team,maybe top 15. TT may not even be in the top 25 after today.

[TroyF]

Difference being, I think, that Texas Tech was maybe a top 20 team, whereas Oklahoma has been one all year. Three weeks ago TT wasn't even ranked.

edit to add: Even with this loss OU is still a top 20 team,maybe top 15. TT may not even be in the top 25 after today.

maybe so, but 14th in the country is 14th in the country. Besides, the same KState team beat OU on the road as well, so that does not give ND some major advantage over KState.

[Matthean]

I've never been a ND fan, but it's really not their fault. The announcers in this game are showing why I hate it so much when they are good. I'm waiting for the two announcers to start talking about licking the sweat off of all the ND players nuts after the game.

Don't get me wrong, this is an impressive win. . . but the announcers started talking about the win with about 14 minutes left and OU driving to tie the game. They must have said "there is still time for OU to win" about forty times in the last quarter of a one score game. Meanwhile, Herbstreet just talked about how ND is the most impressive team this week. Look, I don't really like KState either, but I think they just slaughtered yet another top 20 team today.

I'll admit it, I didn't think ND had a chance in hell of winning this game. They have impressed me beyond belief and it is clear to me this is a BCS team now on merit. I think they are going to USC with a chance to go to the title game. (and if that title game is ND vs Alabama, I'll be pissed at not being able to cheer for a team in the champ game again)

But I really hated listening to the announcers this final quarter. That was the most painful quarter of football I have listened to in a long, long time.

Already saw a ND fan point out they held Michigan lower than 'Bama and OU lower than KSU and that defense wins championships. Look, ND is a nice story, but I've watched ND twice this season, and they would get killed by 'Bama.

[bronconick]

I'm just glad that OU at least got a rushing TD. That anecdote got old long ago.

[bob]

Already saw a ND fan point out they held Michigan lower than 'Bama and OU lower than KSU and that defense wins championships. Look, ND is a nice story, but I've watched ND twice this season, and they would get killed by 'Bama.

You are probably right, but i also heard all week that they'd get killed by Oklahoma.

[Chubby]

What in god's name did Mississippi State do to get to #11 in the country? Other than being in the SEC, what makes them any different than #16 Syracuse or previously unbeaten #15 Rutgers or #24 Ohio? Ohio's win over Penn State is better than any other win any of those teams have.

SI

in what universe is Syracuse #16??? I want to move there!

[Matthean]

Difference being, I think, that Texas Tech was maybe a top 20 team, whereas Oklahoma has been one all year. Three weeks ago TT wasn't even ranked.

edit to add: Even with this loss OU is still a top 20 team,maybe top 15. TT may not even be in the top 25 after today.

OU was deemed a high ranked team from the start due to the media. OU has lost at home to KSU and ND. At least when Michigan played 'Bama and ND those were on the road. You can add Nebraska as a loss for Michigan, but that's a hell of an asterisk.

[kcchief19]

Alright, I used to be able to get WatchESPN, but this season I can't. I have AT&T and it even says AT&T sponsors it. I try every different option for provider but still a no go. I searched AT&T's website and got an e-mail address for ESPN. Joy.
Same problem here. AT&T has ESPN3 access, which exists in another form now. I believe you're supposed to be able to access WatchESPN on your computer from your home connection, but you cannot access on mobile devices or away from home. The good news is that AT&T's retrans agreement with Disney/ESPN expires in December, so when they renew we will probably get the full WatchESPN along with some of the missing ESPN channels.

[sterlingice]

in what universe is Syracuse #16??? I want to move there!

Hah! Louisville. Sorry, typed the wrong Big East team

SI

[Matthean]

You are probably right, but i also heard all week that they'd get killed by Oklahoma.

I don't know about killed. Texas is OU biggest win and I'm not sure how much that accounts for considering Texas was giving up over 11 points per quarter during that stretch. I thought they would challenge OU, but OU seems to get far more praise then it deserves as of late. I will say I'm surprised they did win and by the amount though.

[JonInMiddleGA]

maybe so, but 14th in the country is 14th in the country. Besides, the same KState team beat OU on the road as well, so that does not give ND some major advantage over KState.

I just don't think beating Texas Tech today is in the same ballpark (in terms of being impressive) as beating Oklahoma today. That seems to be what you quoted Herby as saying, I just don't see a problem with that.

FTR, I had K-State #3 this week, with ND at #4. (OU was my #10, TT was my #14). I don't believe I'm going to change that KSU-ND order based on today ... but I'd still say ND got the better win of the two for the week.

[Matthean]

Same problem here. AT&T has ESPN3 access, which exists in another form now. I believe you're supposed to be able to access WatchESPN on your computer from your home connection, but you cannot access on mobile devices or away from home. The good news is that AT&T's retrans agreement with Disney/ESPN expires in December, so when they renew we will probably get the full WatchESPN along with some of the missing ESPN channels.

O.o

http://fewpb.com/CableTelecom/ESPN3.aspx

That link works.

[kcchief19]

Still a long way to go but we could have undefeated champions from the SEC, B12, Big East, Pac 12 and Notre Dame. Utter chaos.

Alabama has a tough road but they are the superior team and I expect they will run the table. You have to consider Notre Dame a pretty likely candidate with USC in the toilet. K-State's toughest game left is Texas at home. Oregon seems to be the class of the Pac 12. Maybe Louisville makes it, but I wouldn't bet on it.

It seems more and more likely somebody or two is going to get hosed. Alabama is in regardless. I'll bet Notre Dame gets No. 2 if they run the table.

I know people will say this means the four-team playoff will fix things, but it's still a mess.

[Kodos]

Sudfeld at QB = Indiana win.


This plus Wisconsin losing = great day for IU football fans. This team is on the way up! Let's take down Iowa next weekend!

[dawgfan]

But it isn't remotely the same.

I live in Seattle, 3 miles from the campus, and I can't watch the game on TV. There is something very wrong with that.

If you are a fan of an NFL team and live in that market you can see all their games on the TV. Sunday ticket is more of a luxury item unless you live out of your teams market.

I don't think it is to much to ask to be able to see my own team in their market on all platforms.
Um, of course you could watch the game - switch to Comcast.

[Solecismic]

RE: Robinson. Nerve in elbow. Makes it hard to throw. Not like he could anyway. Hey oh. :lol:

It's a shame. When they figured out a way to get Toussaint going last season, he was far more effective. But with this one-dimensional offense, when his arm is bad, there's nothing Michigan can do to score points. As the season progresses, he gets less and less accurate as the hits accumulate.

The defense is actually pretty good, now that the no-experience defensive line has matured after the Alabama pounding and the Air Force ground attack. If they just had a quarterback with accuracy, I think they could give anyone a good game, though I'm not sure anyone is in Alabama's class this year.

Robinson is a special athlete, but a good defense can and will hold a one-dimensional team out of the end zone.

As for Alabama vs. Notre Dame, I don't think the Irish have much to stand on there, though they do deserve a chance to try.

[Big Fo]

Anxious to finally see Notre Dame lose. Their run has been all quaint and stuff, but they're WAY overrated right now.

:nono:

[BishopMVP]

Still a long way to go but we could have undefeated champions from the SEC, B12, Big East, Pac 12 and Notre Dame. Utter chaos.
...
It seems more and more likely somebody or two is going to get hosed. Alabama is in regardless. I'll bet Notre Dame gets No. 2 if they run the table.

I know people will say this means the four-team playoff will fix things, but it's still a mess.People (including me) say this every year around week 8... and it never plays out that way. None of the top 4 (including Bama) have more than a 1 in 3 chance of running the table.

[MizzouRah]

I would love to see K State play in the title game, that being said ND and Oregon also have a good resume if they all run the table.

PLAYOFFS PEOPLE!

[bronconick]

Good lord. Lattimore's going to need to worry about walking again, not football. He basically doesn't have a knee anymore.

Broken femur, broken patella. Torn ACL, MCL, PCL and LCL.

[Lathum]

Um, of course you could watch the game - switch to Comcast.

Maybe you didn't read my original post. I think it is arrogant of the PAC 12 to think people will switch to Comcast just for their product. It isn't that good. In this day and age too many people can just stream the game, or go out to a bar that has it, which in my neck of the woods isn't to many bars since most carry DTV.

I'm not giving up Sunday Ticket to watch what will amount to the 4 Huskies football games on the PAC 12 network and it is obvious most other people feel the same way as I do, otherwise DTV would be losing subscribers and a deal would be made.

[Matthean]

Good lord. Lattimore's going to need to worry about walking again, not football. He basically doesn't have a knee anymore.

Broken femur, broken patella. Torn ACL, MCL, PCL and LCL.

Once the initial reaction to the play wore off, I thought he was done playing football.

[tarcone]

This plus Wisconsin losing = great day for IU football fans. This team is on the way up! Let's take down Iowa next weekend!

I imagine this is a probable. Iowa is just not very good.

[MrBug708]

Big Ten teams are praying Oregon goes to the title game so USC goes to the Rose Bowl.

Why? I can't imagine big 10 teams would beat USC

[mckerney]

Why? I can't imagine big 10 teams would beat USC

USC probably wouldn't thoroughly embarrass them though.

[bronconick]

USC would win something like 35-20. Oregon would win 69-13.

[JPhillips]

I can't remember a year where the Big Ten has looked worse. Even if OSU and PSU were bowl eligible they might not outplay the Big East.

[Solecismic]

Once the initial reaction to the play wore off, I thought he was done playing football.

I hope the initial reports aren't true. Could be worse than the McGehee injury. It took more than a year, but McGehee came back in decent shape.

[BillJasper]

I hope the initial reports aren't true. Could be worse than the McGehee injury. It took more than a year, but McGehee came back in decent shape.

Sounds more like Robert Edwards injury at the Pro Bowl from years ago.

[Matthean]

Marcus Lattimore dislocated knee Saturday, South Carolina Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier says - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8564561/marcus-lattimore-dislocated-knee-saturday-south-carolina-gamecocks-coach-steve-spurrier-says)

Looks like it might be only a dislocated knee. Full report to come later today. Initial viewing of the play made it look much much worse.

[Easy Mac]

Dislocated knee normal means you tear anything and everything in the knee. It's definitely bad.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Official news release from the school says "hyperextended knee" but notes damage to several ligaments. There were no fractures or additional injuries, according to team physician Jeffrey Guy.

Marcus Lattimore dislocated knee Saturday, South Carolina Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier says - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8564561/marcus-lattimore-dislocated-knee-saturday-south-carolina-gamecocks-coach-steve-spurrier-says)

[dawgfan]

Maybe you didn't read my original post.
I did. I was responding to the subsequent post that stated you couldn't watch the game despite living in Seattle.

I think it is arrogant of the PAC 12 to think people will switch to Comcast just for their product. It isn't that good. In this day and age too many people can just stream the game, or go out to a bar that has it, which in my neck of the woods isn't to many bars since most carry DTV.

I'm not giving up Sunday Ticket to watch what will amount to the 4 Huskies football games on the PAC 12 network and it is obvious most other people feel the same way as I do, otherwise DTV would be losing subscribers and a deal would be made.
I think Scott miscalculated on carriage negotiations and made a few blunders. He didn't get iron-clad assurance that Comcast would carry the networks nationally, and so many regions serviced by Comcast are not showing the network. So Scott can't use the agreement with Comcast as leverage against DTV.

Second, he didn't retain the right for the conference to allow paid digital streaming of games for those that don't have a carrier that has an agreement with the conference. This pisses off fans and doesn't increase leverage against holdouts like DTV.

Third, he counted on some personal relationships within DTV to help smooth negotiations, and when those people left DTV, he was up shit creek.

Fourth, he clearly didn't understand the amount of leverage DTV has with sports fans, and thus leverage that DTV has vs. the Pac-12 (as opposed to Dish or the various cables).

It'll be interesting to see if/when Scott caves and offers a better deal to DTV, because at this point I don't see any other way to get them on board. And if/when he does cave, what does that do to the conference's relationships with Dish & the various cables that signed for higher rates?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Radakovich leaves GT, named new AD at Clemson

www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20121029/TIGERSNOW/310290038/Clemson-names-Radakovich-athletic-director