Official College Football Week 11 Thread - "Where's cartman?" edition

[Logan]

Surprised this hadn't been started yet.

Top 25 matchups:

(11) Oregon State at (14) Stanford
(15) Texas A&M at (1) Alabama
(21) Mississippi State at (7) LSU

[Logan]

The real reason I went looking for this thread is because it seems everywhere I look, there's another article discussing Kiffin being on the hot seat, "enough is enough", etc. Was looking to get some insight from the USC guys.

[Kodos]

Indiana vs. Wisconsin for the inside track to the division crown. Let's beat that scumbag Bielema and get some payback for his little habit of running up the score.

[dawgfan]

The Oregon State/Stanford game should be pretty interesting; both defenses are playing well, both teams have promoted their backup QB's to starting roles. Can Stanford's pass rush mitigate a mediocre secondary? Can Oregon State get any kind of run game going against Stanford? Will the Cardinal be able to run the ball on the Beavers?

Winner still controls their destiny in the Pac-12 North.

[Matthean]

(15) Texas A&M at (1) Alabama
(21) Mississippi State at (7) LSU

I'm glad 'Bama is at home. I think they win regardless, but being at home will make playing post LSU easier. It will be interesting to see what LSU does. Does the offense continue to build, or do does the team suffer a let down now that their goal has been taken away from them. I still don't see MSU coming to LSU and winning though unless that is one wicked hangover.

Nebraska can essentially can get into the Big Ten title game with a win against PSU. Michigan hosts Northwestern, which will be mildly interesting due Robinson maybe sitting a Northwestern being somewhat decent. Wisconsin can wrap up a shot for the Big Ten title if it beats the now frisky Indiana.

[MrBug708]

Cartman has went mia in the bbcf Fofc league. I know he is in Vegas, but nothing past that

[Passacaglia]

Indiana vs. Wisconsin for the inside track to the division crown. Let's beat that scumbag Bielema and get some payback for his little habit of running up the score.

This should be a fun game -- I wish it weren't on at the same time as Michigan.

[bronconick]

FSU scores late last night to knock off VT in Blacksburg. Bud Foster had a hell of a night calling D for the Hokies, dialing up all kinds of crazy blitzes and holding FSU 250 yards below its 235 ypg rushing average. That probably clinches the Atlantic for the 'Noles, as their lone remaining ACC game is at Maryland, who will still be playing a linebacker at QB on top of whatever new injuries they pick up from playing Clemson this weekend.

[Julio Riddols]

Indiana vs. Wisconsin for the inside track to the division crown. Let's beat that scumbag Bielema and get some payback for his little habit of running up the score.

I haven't been paying enough attention.. Indiana could potentially have a shot at winning the Big 10?

[lungs]

Indiana vs. Wisconsin for the inside track to the division crown. Let's beat that scumbag Bielema and get some payback for his little habit of running up the score.

Normally I'd get my panties in a wad over this statement. But your description of Bielema happens to be somewhat accurate. Though running up the score isn't one of the reasons I had in mind.

[Matthean]

I haven't been paying enough attention.. Indiana could potentially have a shot at winning the Big 10?

Yep. If Indiana wins out, they go to the Big Ten title game.

The coaching staff has already got some recruits to switch from other Big Ten schools to Indiana. If they can continue to build, there's little reason for Indiana to not become at least respectable. You have OSU in that division, but PSU has to deal with sanctions, Wisconsin is somewhat unknown now they lost so much of their staff. I can see Indiana becoming the 2-3 best team in that division if all goes well.

[cadmus2166]

Gardner to start today at QB for Michigan, as Robinson is still dealing with nerve issue in his throwing arm.

[Matthean]

Gardner to start today at QB for Michigan, as Robinson is still dealing with nerve issue in his throwing arm.

If Michigan keeps winning, he can keep having that pain. :D Of course, NW is up 7-0.

[Matthean]

Tied up in AA. Michigan still has zero running game from its RBs, but it's nice to see a Michigan QB with arm strength.

[cadmus2166]

If Michigan keeps winning, he can keep having that pain. :D Of course, NW is up 7-0.

Lol, I agree. I love Denard, but I think that Al Borges is more comfortable with the offense he can run under Gardner.

7-7 now.

[Matthean]

Michigan's D is not good. Hopefully next year with Countess back and another class the group starts to turn the corner. They shouldn't be gifting NW a TD to close out the first half.

[mauchow]

If Wisconsin isn't playing their third string qb they'd be winning 31-0. Losing stave was huge. Danny O'Brien experiment is over too.

[Matthean]

Nice way to pay tribute to Royal. They should run it more often. :lol:

Texas Longhorns honor former coach Darrell Royal, open up game against Iowa State Cyclones in wishbone formation - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8614220/texas-longhorns-honor-former-coach-darrell-royal-open-game-iowa-state-cyclones-wishbone-formation)

[Matthean]

This should end any QB "controversy" at Michigan. Not like the defense is helping. Nebraska would have to due a rather nice choke job to not make it to the Big Ten title game so it looks like Nebraska vs. Wisconsin.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

ESPN Gamecast still lists Gardner as a WR.

Denard still has 1 arm, 2 legs & 0 shoelaces... maybe line him up at RB?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee actually has a lead in an SEC game. Currently 28-14 Vols with 8 mins left 3rd quarter. Missouri managed less than 100 yards offense in the first half, hit a 77 yard pass on the opening play of the 2nd half to get that second TD.

UT have 446 yards total offense already

[mauchow]

Let's score 86, Badgers!

59 plays today, 52 of them running...

[mauchow]

Oh, and Montee Ball will break the TD record next week most likely.

[mauchow]

Indiana vs. Wisconsin for the inside track to the division crown. Let's beat that scumbag Bielema and get some payback for his little habit of running up the score.

Shucks.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT vs UNC starting to look like a PacXX game. 41-36 GT with 9:36 left 3rd qtr.

Both teams approaching 400 yds total offense.Each team has punted only once so far.

[CraigSca]

Watching La-Lafayette upset Florida - up by 4 and driving.

[mauchow]

We can still score 80!

[Matthean]

Let's beat that scumbag Bielema and get some payback for his little habit of running up the score.

Hmmm. I still can't get past how much of a dunderhead he looks like. I'm also waiting for Wisconsin to consistently win games that matter.

[mauchow]

Are you kidding me... horrible for ULL.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Mizzou ties UT with under a minute left, Franklin scrambles long enough for coverage to break down & hits a 25 yd TD pass on 4th down.

[mauchow]

Hmmm. I still can't get past how much of a dunderhead he looks like. I'm also waiting for Wisconsin to consistently win games that matter.

Consistently win games? In his career or this year? IF this year then yeah, I can agree, but with Stave out we won't be expecting anything else this year as Badgers fans. Phillips can't throw. Danny O'Brien can't throw. Stave could throw but got hurt on the first drive in the second half against MSU where he was completely tearing apart the MSU defense..then DO'B came in and stunk it up and WI lost.. Had we won that game things would be different from your perspective.

All things considered, we've come a long way since the beginning of the season where we had AWFUL play calling tied in with an awful run game. They fired Markuson and we've been back to, for the most part, where we've been in the last few years.

A healthy Stave and a good OL coming back next year with three running backs who will handle the load just fine Post-Ball Era the Badgers should be pretty good next year.

[mauchow]

ULL has 1:30 on the clock to try to score against Florida, I know the chances of them moving the ball are pretty dismal but to completely give up and not give yourself any chance to win in regulation is just poor coaching... Florida then blocks the punt and scores on the blocked punt with 5 second left on the clock.

[cadmus2166]

Huge win for Michigan in OT to stay alive for the Big Ten Title game!! Now I'll just be hoping Penn St. can knock off Nebraska, and Michigan is back in the driver's seat.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT appears to have salted away a win against UNC, now 68-50 with about 4 mins to play.

[Bigsmooth]

Awesome fake FG puts the Vols up 7 in 2OT.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Franklin's third TD pass in OT puts Mizzou up 48-42 in the 3rd OT, 2 pt try forthcoming

[bob]

Texas A&M 14, Alabama 0

[JPhillips]

That second TD play by Manziel was incredible.

[JonInMiddleGA]

14-0 Texas A&M, just four minutes into the game

[bob]

That second TD play by Manziel was incredible.

NFL TV coverage is a lot better than college coverage. I feel like the NFL coverage would have shown us how that WR got so open and when / where the breakdown in defensive coverage happened instead of just focusing on Manziel, although it was a hell of a play.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Neither Mizzou nor UT can complete a 2 pt try. Into 4OT we go, tied at 48.

[tucker rocky]

14-0 Texas A&M, just four minutes into the game

Alabama just setting up A&M for a 2nd half heartbreak.

[JonInMiddleGA]

All Mizzou needed to do was play UT. 51-48 Tigers in 4 OT. Final.

For the love of all that's holy, Sunseri & Dooley should be fired before the post-game presser begins.

[bulletsponge]

Gig' em aggies

[Julio Riddols]

Wow, A&M whooping some ass right now.

[MizzouRah]

Go Mizzou!!! Much better 2nd half!

Let's GO TEXAS A&M!!!

[tucker rocky]

A&M up 20-7, better hope that missed xtra point doesn't come back in the end.

[BishopMVP]

ESPN UPSET ALERT

#11 Oregon State 17 #14 Stanford 14 10:17 3rd Qtr

lol

[cuervo72]

Something tells me they're not holding onto that lead.

(A&M, not Oregon St)

[TroyF]

Something tells me they're not holding onto that lead.

(A&M, not Oregon St)

Obviously, a long way to go (one full quarter), but how this drive ends could have a massive impact. A two score game doesn't end it, but it does put pressure on Bama and give the Aggies room to make a mistake or two and still win the game. Huge series coming up here.

[Danny]

A&M kicker going to cost them the game

[Julio Riddols]

Bertolet, you fucknose..

[TroyF]

holy moly what a pass.

[bob]

holy moly what a pass.

back to back holy moly

[TroyF]

holy moly what a second pass. Ummm, wow, just wow. Still plenty of time left, but Bama in trouble.

[bulletsponge]

Johnny football!

[cschex]

Can't believe that kid is a freshman. As an LSU fan, not looking forward to facing him 3 more years

[Danny]

Fumble hurt bama but a better throw from Mccaron would have made that previous play a td. Manziel winning it for his team over mccaron

[TroyF]

I think you would be hard pressed to watch every high school, college and pro game this year and see back to back better throwns than what this kid just launched. To say I am impressed would be a massive understatement.

[TroyF]

Should be 15 yards on A&M there. Horrible non call, especially for the situation.

[cuervo72]

Yep, zebras blew that one.

[BishopMVP]

Can't believe that kid is a freshman. As an LSU fan, not looking forward to facing him 3 more yearsForget declaring after his junior year, at this rate he might go #1 after next season.

[tucker rocky]

Looks simultaneous, Alabama ball still.

[TroyF]

Forget declaring after his junior year, at this rate he might go #1 after next season.

Did he redshirt? if he didn't, he can't go until he's a junior.

[cschex]

Forget declaring after his junior year, at this rate he might go #1 after next season.

One can only hope

[TroyF]

People rail on the prevent, including me. . . but you CANNOT get beat deep there. You just can't. Horrific defense.

[Julio Riddols]

Manziel is definitely special, it appears.

[Danny]

Uh oh

[Desnudo]

A&M secondary not looking so hot

[BishopMVP]

Did he redshirt? if he didn't, he can't go until he's a junior.Yeah, they decided to wait so some bum named Tannehill could play his SR year.

[TroyF]

The defense is just comical. I would say I haven't seen a team play defense that poorly in a long time, but I watched LSU piss the final minutes away against Bama last week. This QB hasn't hit a damned thing all day so you decide to give him wide open deep throws? Seriously? Three times this quarter. Saved once by a poor throw followed by a turnover. Alabama won't let you get saved twice.

[Bigsmooth]

Forget declaring after his junior year, at this rate he might go #1 after next season.

No way. He's shorter then Russel Wilson.

[Crapshoot]

Is Texas A&M aware that safeties don't have to play at the line?

[TroyF]

I take it back. Wow.

[bulletsponge]

YES!

[Desnudo]

A&M secondary looking good

[tucker rocky]

A&M was trying to lose.

[TroyF]

Still not over. They need about six more yards to end the game.

[bob]

Still not over. They need about six more yards to end the game.

Bad third down call to me... Straight into the pile.

[Danny]

Not a good 3rd down play call

[Danny]

Wowzer

[TroyF]

game over. Kneel down and it's over. Wow.

[britrock88]

Sweeeeet.

[bob]

That was sorta anti-climatic.

[Julio Riddols]

Oh shit, ballgame.

[Danny]

Now hopefully k state and Oregon run the table

[General Mike]

game over. Kneel down and it's over. Wow.

Now watch KState and ND lose tonight.

[TroyF]

On a cold snowy night in CO, it warms my heart and soul to see Saban lose. Don't get to see it often, but when it happens, I savor it.

[kingfc22]

And Golden Domers rejoice...for now

[tucker rocky]

So who'll be #1? K-State, Oregon, ND?

[Buccaneer]

I saw but I don't believe. What an amazing win for the Aggies.

[cuervo72]

Wow, guess I was wrong.

[tucker rocky]

On a cold snowy night in CO, it warms my heart and soul to see Saban lose. Don't get to see it often, but when it happens, I savor it.

http://usr.audioasylum.com/images/4/48143/dos-equis-guy.jpg

[TroyF]

By Rivals rankings, that was the #97 QB of the class of 2011.

96 other QB's ahead of that guy? Really? Wow.

[Bigsmooth]

....and he wanted to be a Longhorn his whole life. They didn't offer him...ha.

[MizzouRah]

Now hopefully k state and Oregon run the table

I approve this message!

[Julio Riddols]

K-State / Oregon would be a good title game.

[bob]

Don't worry, I'm quite certain if either KState or Oregon loses, a 1 loss Alabama would jump Notre Dame unless ND wins the last three games by 30 points each.

[bronconick]

I'm going to be so pissed off tomorrow when Alabama gets revealed as #3 in the BCS tomorrow night.

[Matthean]

By Rivals rankings, that was the #97 QB of the class of 2011.

96 other QB's ahead of that guy? Really? Wow.

Before seeing a QB coach he turned the ball over too much to where he wasn't even the starter.

A&M played a hell of a game. Kind of got tired seeing QBs throwing the most perfect passes that the defender had no chance on the past two weeks. I had a number of issues with 'Bama's play calling, but oh well. At least 'Bama gets two nice and easy games before they get Georgia. It just sucks to put so much focus on the title game and now left going, "Wait, what is option B again?" I guess the SEC haters will be happy. I still want to see 'Bama against Oregon just from a match up point of view, but that's essentially gone. As long as the Irish aren't in the title game. :lol:

[bob]

Ok, this made me laugh (Sorry Jon).

Missouri 51, Tennessee 48 (4OT). What do you do when you’ve got a little less than a minute to play in the fourth quarter, a tie game, two timeouts and Tyler Bray, Justin Hunter, Cordarrelle Patterson and Mychal Rivera on offense? If you answered “run the clock out, sillypants!” you win an officially licensed Tennessee football that deflates into the shape of a sad clown’s mouth.

[mauchow]

So who's next undefeated to go down?

This would have made an interesting playoff season. Top 4? Oregon. KSU. Notre dame. Then bama again?

[Eaglesfan27]

On a cold snowy night in CO, it warms my heart and soul to see Saban lose. Don't get to see it often, but when it happens, I savor it.

Loved seeing it too.

[mauchow]

No way. He's shorter then Russel Wilson.

He's listed as 6'1" -- Russell is less than 5'11".

[cuervo72]

He struck me as being pretty small.

[Big Fo]

So who's next undefeated to go down?

This would have made an interesting playoff season. Top 4? Oregon. KSU. Notre dame. Then bama again?

The SEC Champion, either Georgia (#5 coming into today) or Alabama (probably dropping to #4 after this week). So probably Alabama.

[cuervo72]

Romanowski still seems well-adjusted.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ok, this made me laugh (Sorry Jon).

Missouri 51, Tennessee 48 (4OT). What do you do when you’ve got a little less than a minute to play in the fourth quarter, a tie game, two timeouts and Tyler Bray, Justin Hunter, Cordarrelle Patterson and Mychal Rivera on offense? If you answered “run the clock out, sillypants!” you win an officially licensed Tennessee football that deflates into the shape of a sad clown’s mouth.

No worries about the laughter. I've been making fun of the gutless useless sack of shit coaching staff for quite a while now.

[JonInMiddleGA]

From the Teams That Are Pretty Much Irrelevant These Days file:

The Vols became the first team in SEC history to allow 38 or more points in six consecutive games.

[SackAttack]

Ok, this made me laugh (Sorry Jon).

Missouri 51, Tennessee 48 (4OT). What do you do when you’ve got a little less than a minute to play in the fourth quarter, a tie game, two timeouts and Tyler Bray, Justin Hunter, Cordarrelle Patterson and Mychal Rivera on offense? If you answered “run the clock out, sillypants!” you win an officially licensed Tennessee football that deflates into the shape of a sad clown’s mouth.

Two conference wins and keeping Florida within one touchdown?

I think that eclipses my expectations for Missouri's first year in the conference, as completely depressing as I know that sounds.

[MrBug708]

Good riddance to WSU

[Kodos]

Shucks.

Stay classy. Like your coach.

Gonna enjoy OSU beating the ever-living shit out of your team.

[mauchow]

He didn't run up shit last year. He threw one pass in the second half of both games. Indiana just stinks man.

[lungs]

Kodos, as much as I dislike Bielema, what's he supposed to do, take a knee the whole second half? Good grief, it's not my problem that the third and fourth string steamrolls over IUs defense.

[mauchow]

Osu won't steamroll the badgers at camp Randall. The badgers have lost three games this year by a combined 9 points.

[Kodos]

IU has lost a lot of close games this season too. This was the first blowout. IU's biggest weakness is run defense, so this was a bad matchup for us.

IU's final score against OSU will be a lot closer than Wisconsin's (assuming Braxton Miller is playing and healthy).

[mauchow]

OSU is severely overrated this year. I'm hoping Wisconsin wins big but I do think it will be a close one with the Badgers hopefully eking one out. With the Badgers losing Stave just killed any sort of honesty a defense will give Wisconsin here on out.

[Kodos]

Here's an idea. Have more than one QB who can pass on your team. But way to build in an excuse for your inevitable loss.

[Thomkal]

Coastal Carolina is somehow still alive for a playoff spot in the Big South after Liberty upset Stony Brook yesterday while CCU crushed Presbyterian. Liberty, Stony Brook, and Coastal are in a three way tie and if it remains that way after a Coastal and Liberty win next week (Stony Brook is done playing), the Chants get the Big South playoff spot.

That would be quite the story with Business CEO turned Head Football Coach Joe Moglia at the helm in his first season. But they have a potential land mine in the traditional last game of the season against rival Charleston Southern. CSU knocked the Chants out of the playoffs before, and with a much better Coastal team than this one. And Liberty has to beat VMI to preserve the three way tie, or Stony Brook gets the spot due to head to head with Coastal.

[Karlifornia]

Jesus kodos. Relax.

[BishopMVP]

From the Teams That Are Pretty Much Irrelevant These Days file:UMass won its first FBS game ever, and then proceeded to embarrass everyone involved by giving the coach a gatorade bath after beating 1-9 Akron.

[Matthean]

UMass won its first FBS game ever, and then proceeded to embarrass everyone involved by giving the coach a gatorade bath after beating 1-9 Akron.

There wasn't even an ESPN upset alert on it.

[molson]

Well that was kind of fun - Syracuse rewarded its shrinking fan base's persistence and continuing willingness to watch them fumble and commit silly penalties week after week with a total beat-down of #9 Louisville. Ya, Louisville probably shouldn't have been ranked that high, but whatever, it's officially a win against a top-10 team. If the Cuse can manage to beat either Missouri or Temple they'll end up in the Pinstripe Bowl. I think they're going to end up in that bowl every year they're bowl eligible.

[TroyF]

I just watched the Tuberville thing, doesn't he have to be fired for that? I understand it's football and sports, but a full fledged slap (no, I don't buy his excuse) on an employee? this has lawsuit all over it. Call me part of the nanny state, but taht just wasn't acceptable under any circumstance.

[Swaggs]

I just watched the Tuberville thing, doesn't he have to be fired for that? I understand it's football and sports, but a full fledged slap (no, I don't buy his excuse) on an employee? this has lawsuit all over it. Call me part of the nanny state, but taht just wasn't acceptable under any circumstance.

His excuse was so lame, I think they do need to dump him. I'm guessing a suspension that leads to a firing is what we will see.

[CraigSca]

Here's an idea. Have more than one QB who can pass on your team. But way to build in an excuse for your inevitable loss.

As a Maryland fan, I would suggest having at least 5 quarterbacks on the roster who can pass.

[mauchow]

Badgers lost Budmyer, Stave, Houston to injuries and O'Brien unfortunately can't cut it. Two of those could have helped this year, but I'm not sure any team could win consistently with their backups to the backup but we just slaughtered your weak ass team with said backup.

[panerd]

Well that was kind of fun - Syracuse rewarded its shrinking fan base's persistence and continuing willingness to watch them fumble and commit silly penalties week after week with a total beat-down of #9 Louisville. Ya, Louisville probably shouldn't have been ranked that high, but whatever, it's officially a win against a top-10 team. If the Cuse can manage to beat either Missouri or Temple they'll end up in the Pinstripe Bowl. I think they're going to end up in that bowl every year they're bowl eligible.

Yeah I have to admit with my low knowledge of the Big East and Syracuse I had this marked down as a pretty certain win at the beginning of the year on Mizzou's schedule but it looks like it is going to be a good game now.

[Swaggs]

Doug Marrone is a really good coach (and apparently a really likable guy). I just think Syracuse is in a tough spot, despite their tradition and the quality of the school, because they are so geographically isolated and do not have much a recruiting base to draw from. Maybe the increased funds from the ACC will allow them to expand their recruiting base. I think he could probably do good things at a school that could attract more talent, but he is very loyal to Syracuse (and good for him and them for it).

[Passacaglia]

So after Mizzou beat Kentucky, they had a Caged the Cats t-shirt made up. This time, will it be Paid the Volunteers?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

So after Mizzou beat Kentucky, they had a Caged the Cats t-shirt made up. This time, will it be Paid the Volunteers?

The funny part is that someone actually was fired for that shirt debacle. It wasn't on sale long either.

[molson]

Doug Marrone is a really good coach (and apparently a really likable guy). I just think Syracuse is in a tough spot, despite their tradition and the quality of the school, because they are so geographically isolated and do not have much a recruiting base to draw from. Maybe the increased funds from the ACC will allow them to expand their recruiting base. I think he could probably do good things at a school that could attract more talent, but he is very loyal to Syracuse (and good for him and them for it).

Ya, they used to have something of a geographic advantage being the only major college football program northeast of Penn St. Not that the northeast was ever a hotbed of football talent, but owning that region kept them competitive. It's probably less of an advantage now with the improvement of Rutgers, occasionally Boston College, and even UConn. I don't think you can have a national championship program in Central NY, but you can still have a relevant one and I haven't given up hope that Marrone can do that. They were looking pretty good last year until they crapped the bed at the end,

[BishopMVP]

There wasn't even an ESPN upset alert on it.As a Maryland fan, I would suggest having at least 5 quarterbacks on the roster who can pass.:D

IF all 3 undefeated teams win out, can we put the "Notre Dame gets a competitive advantage from the media" to rest? They'll be undefeated and out of the title game in favor of Kansas State and an Oregon team with a weaker schedule, while having the highest computer average.

[britrock88]

Remember that the BCS computer rankings aren't allowed to account for margin of victory, though. So ND's overtime thriller of a win against Pitt counts as a win in the same way that Oregon's 77-7 thrashing of some unfortunate Pac-12 team counts as a win. Factor margin of victory into the discussion and Notre Dame drops behind Oregon and K-State again. (And guess who is #1 by that measure? ... Alabama. :banghead: )

[Kodos]

Badgers lost Budmyer, Stave, Houston to injuries and O'Brien unfortunately can't cut it. Two of those could have helped this year, but I'm not sure any team could win consistently with their backups to the backup but we just slaughtered your weak ass team with said backup.

Congratulations. We also were without our starting QB (Roberson). Your team's biggest strength matched up with our team's biggest weakness (run D). Way to crow about your team being better than one of the historic doormats of college football. Yay for you. Enjoy your loss this weekend. I will.

Coach Wilson has things heading in the right direction. We're certainly not where we want to be yet.

[MrBug708]

:D

IF all 3 undefeated teams win out, can we put the "Notre Dame gets a competitive advantage from the media" to rest? They'll be undefeated and out of the title game in favor of Kansas State and an Oregon team with a weaker schedule, while having the highest computer average.

You should be upset at Bill Snyder. He's the reason you guys could miss the title game.

That said, I dont think Notre Dame beats USC so it likely won't matter :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Alright, which FOFC poster is this??????? The first minute or two starts slow, but the last four minutes are golden.

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[BishopMVP]

Remember that the BCS computer rankings aren't allowed to account for margin of victory, though. So ND's overtime thriller of a win against Pitt counts as a win in the same way that Oregon's 77-7 thrashing of some unfortunate Pac-12 team counts as a win. Factor margin of victory into the discussion and Notre Dame drops behind Oregon and K-State again. (And guess who is #1 by that measure? ... Alabama. :banghead: )You should be upset at Bill Snyder. He's the reason you guys could miss the title game.

That said, I dont think Notre Dame beats USC so it likely won't matter :)I'm not upset about it at all - I'd probably take Oregon and K-State straight up too (although the 17 point win at Oklahoma would give me pause). I just find it amusing that it comes when so many people say that the voters overrate ND every time.

I also agree it probably won't matter - ND/Wake Forest is the only thing close to a certain win left for the 3 teams. Somewhere between K-State @ Baylor/vs. Texas, Oregon vs. Stanford/@ Oregon St./USC rematch and ND @ USC we'll probably see at least one team lose, if not 2, which would give the Alabama/Georgia winner a spot.

[Chief Rum]

I'm not upset about it at all - I'd probably take Oregon and K-State straight up too (although the 17 point win at Oklahoma would give me pause). I just find it amusing that it comes when so many people say that the voters overrate ND every time.

I also agree it probably won't matter - ND/Wake Forest is the only thing close to a certain win left for the 3 teams. Somewhere between K-State @ Baylor/vs. Texas, Oregon vs. Stanford/@ Oregon St./USC rematch and ND @ USC we'll probably see at least one team lose, if not 2, which would give the Alabama/Georgia winner a spot.

Wait a sec, let's not be presuming that just yet.

[Buccaneer]

I don't understand what is the new playoffs system and the role of the Gang of Five based on the recent agreement. Can someone clarify?

[JonInMiddleGA]

If this actually happens, it ought to disqualify the ACC from ever having a guaranteed bid to anything again.

Georgia Tech as Coastal champion? Yep, it could happen | Mark Bradley (http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2012/11/12/georgia-tech-as-coastal-champion-yep-it-could-happen/?cxntfid=blogs_mark_bradley_blog)