Werewolf CLI: Schrodinger's Werewolf: GAME OVER, WOLVES WIN

[Autumn]

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WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING?

Signups are now closed for the latest round of Werewolf. If you would like to know what the ruleset is for this latest game, I must apologize. The answer is in this little box here, but I can't open it yet. So as for now, you are playing in one or all of four different Werewolf games.

This is a simple game of classic Werewolf, with a twist. Once signups are complete you will be shown four different possible sets of roles present in the game. You unfortunately will not know which of those games you are playing in. It's a sad reality of gaming in Schrodinger's Box. If I opened the box to show you, you'd be dead. Maybe. So I'll have to wait until enough of you are dead to give it a go.

[Autumn]

THE BASICS

Don't quote any PMs directly in thread
Don't talk about the game outside of the thread
Don't edit your posts during the game
Vote by writing VOTE NAME in bold in your post on its own line
Unvote by writing UNVOTE NAME in bold on its own line
Nightfall votes will be accepted but will have to be unanimous, and once entered your vote may not be changed.
Tie votes will be settled by either lynching both parties or lynching neither one. It's unclear which.


THE DEADLINE


Voting Deadline is 10 pm EST; votes timestamped 9:59 will count, votes stamped 10:00 will not.

Night Action Deadline is 11 pm EST; actions timestamped 10:59 will count, actions stamped 11:00 will not


THE START


Villagers receive the message: "You are a simple villager."

[Autumn]

INVENTORY OF SCHRODINGER'S BOX

ITEM NAME TYPE DATE OF REMOVAL
1. Abe Sargent unknown tbd
2. CrimsonFox unknown tbd
3. mauboy1 Villager Lynched Day 4
4. JAG Villager Lynched Day 1
5. Simbo Klice unknown tbd
6. Chief Rum Villager Killed Night 4
7. britrock88 unknown tbd
8. GoldenEagle unknown tbd
9. booradley Villager Lynched Day 3
10. Darth Vilus Wolf Cub Lynched Day 2
11. DaddyTorgo unknown tbd
12. Spleen1015 Seer Killed Night 1
13. suicane75 Hunter Killed Night 3

SUPPLEMENTAL INVENTORY


Danny
Eaglefan
Lonestargirl

[Autumn]

THEORETICAL CONTENTS OF SCHRODINGER'S BOX

Game Number 1: Game Number 2: Game Number 3: Game Number 4:
2 Werewolves 2 Werewolves 3 Werewolves 3 Werewolves
1 Werewolf Seer 1 Werewolf Seer
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
1 Seer 1 Hunter 1 Cultist 1 Cultist
1 Bodyguard 9 villagers 9 villagers 1 Wolf Cub
8 villagers 1 Seer
1 Bodyguard
1 Hunter
5 villagers

OPENING INSTRUCTIONS

The Schrodinger's Werewolf Box contains one of the above games of Werewolf. Unfortunately, the exact game being played cannot be determined until everyone is dead. The moderator, operating outside all understanding of physics will look inside the box before the game and randomly determine which of the above four games is being played. However, those inside the box will be unsure of their quantum state.

In other words, you will not be told which of the above sets of roles are in the game. You will be informed of your role, and role reveals upon death, but otherwise everything is up in the air.

PACKAGE DETAILS

Werewolf - Standard werewolf rules apply. Wolves can PM chat amongst themselves (including the moderator). The wolves choose one target to kill every night.

Werewolf Seer - This special werewolf can take an additional night action. He or she may target a player, and will be told whether that player is the seer.

Seer - The seer can scan a player every night and will be told if that player is a werewolf. The Seer cannot distinguish the wolf cub or cultist from other villagers.

Bodyguard - The bodyguard can choose a player every night to protect, including himself or herself. The bodyguard cannot protect the same target twice in a row.

Hunter - The hunter is tougher than a regular villager, and for purposes of parity at end game counts as two villagers. Tough means that the Hunter requires 2 night kills to be killed. The Hunter won't be informed that he has been targeted on the first kill, nor will the wolves know why their kill did not work. If the hunter and one wolf are present at end game, the village wins.

Cultist - This player counts as a villager, but wins with the wolves. The cultist knows the identity of the werewolves. If the wolf cub becomes a werewolf, the Cultist will know that as well.

Wolf Cub - This player is unaware of their role,but if they are targeted for a night kill, instead of dying they will become a werewolf and join the evil side. Until targeted the cub counts as good.

Villager - All villagers received a message stating "You are a simple villager."

[Abe Sargent]

In

[CrimsonFox]

in, with slightly weirdish day schedule

[mauchow]

May as well keep my win streak going,

[JAG]

In

[Simbo Klice]

In

[Chief Rum]

I'm in, although my participation might be minor in the later end of the week.

[britrock88]

So, so very in.

[britrock88]

(Much yes inmas mmhmm quite yes in).

[EagleFan]

In

I am traveling back home on the 18th so that day I will be out of the loop for most of the daytime hours. Unless my trip gets either cut short or extended.

[britrock88]

Should we PM some WW-only types?

[Danny]

Ill join, have a couple weeks off starting next Thu.

[Darth Vilus]

I'll play. It's been awhile lol

[CrimsonFox]

so autumn are there any rules/roles that we'll know before the game starts?

[DaddyTorgo]

In

[Autumn]

so autumn are there any rules/roles that we'll know before the game starts?

I can't quite set the exact rules/roles until I know how many we'll have, but I don't really want to cap it. Basically all the rules and roles will be standard, but there will be a twist in the sense of knowing what is in the game.

[spleen1015]

In for old times sake

[Autumn]

Wow, I may actually need to cap this to be sure we don't drag into the holidays.

[Chief Rum]

Not that we need to add more players, since, nicely enough, we're getting good response, but didn't Grover want to try out WW? If I recall correctly, he was ready to give it his first go when WW "died" for a bit there the past few months. I think he said he thought it was him, lol.

Anyway, he has probably stopped checking in here, so maybe we should send him a PM?

[Autumn]

Yes, you're right, I will PM him. And I think I'm probably going to cap it at 13.

[Suicane75]

I'm In. Or Am I? Maybe I'm In And Out. Maybe I'm Having Sex Or Eating A Hamburger. Why Am I Capitalizing Every Word? Dunno, Just Started Doing It And Now It Would Look Weird To Stop.

[Autumn]

Great. I'm going to end signups there. If Grover wants to sign up, I will add him in. Anybody else, feel free to show interest and I'll add you to the waiting list, just in case. Who knows, maybe we'll have so many more we can run two games in parallel!!!!

[booradley]

I'd like to be added to the wait list. I've never played before, so I'll probably stink, mind. Think of me as an hors d'oeuvre ...

[Autumn]

Glad to have you, boo. I'm kind of hoping we'll get enough to run a couple games, that would be fun.

[GoldenEagle]

I am in if room is still avliable. LSG may play as well since she is on XMas break next week.

[Autumn]

That would be great. My initial ruleset was for 9, so if we get to at least 18 I could do a double game

[CrimsonFox]

I'd like to be added to the wait list. I've never played before, so I'll probably stink, mind. Think of me as an hors d'oeuvre ...

then you'll fit right in here. :)

[hoopsguy]

I'm glad to see WW up and going again. Wish I had time to play ... have a feeling that this kind of uncertainty in rules would have been right up my alley. Please make it a fun read :)

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm glad to see WW up and going again. Wish I had time to play ... have a feeling that this kind of uncertainty in rules would have been right up my alley. Please make it a fun read :)

Can we make you make time to play? Or will you play after the holidays? :)

[DaddyTorgo]

This is some mad, twisted, fucked-up shit.

I love it!!! *cackles*

[hoopsguy]

Can we make you make time to play? Or will you play after the holidays? :)

I doubt it - just at a point where personal/professional life have minimized my free time and WW hasn't made the cut. I sunk all kind of time into the games, and enjoyed the heck out of them at the time, but I can't really do it anymore ... at least not in a way where the experience would still be fun for me. I've tried a couple of times, and realized that I don't get much enjoyment out of the game when I can't really sink my teeth into it (and spit out villagers).

[Danny]

I'd rather see a first timer get the bug, so I will back out if needed so a first timer can play.

[Autumn]

I'll swap you with booradley, Danny, for now.

[Autumn]

Although now that he sees your sig he probably won't want to play.

[EagleFan]

I'll back out so GE can get in. I just found out today that I may have to go straight from here to another trip, this is getting insane (especially since I am SUPPOSED to be on vacation the following week).

[CrimsonFox]

geez, autumn just make the game bigger :) more = better.

[booradley]

Thanks Danny! Now I'm off to get some Snausages and wolf traps!

[Autumn]

geez, autumn just make the game bigger :) more = better.

I would love to, but the next monday is the 24th, and if Make the game too big there's no chance we're done before then. I don't think we want that big of a break in the game.

[Autumn]

Looks like we're probably going to stick at 13. I will probably close signups and post stuff tomorrow to get started.

[Autumn]

Thirteen it is. I'm going to finalize rules, post them up and send out PMs during the day. First deadline will be tomorrow at 10 pm EST.

[Autumn]

Rules have been updated. Roles will be sent out shortly.

[Autumn]

Roles have been sent out. If you didn't get yours let me know privately. Game has begun. The first deadline is Monday, 10pm EST. Please make sure you read the contents of the box above.

[mauchow]

villager checking in!!

[Autumn]

Oh, and I know we have some new players, so I'm going to try to stay on top of reminding about basic rules. One is: don't edit posts! If you said something wrong, you just have to make a new post.

[JAG]

At first glance, I hope the contents aren't game 3. E wolves and a cultist vs. a village without roles looks tough. Also interesting that two of the possible options are seerless games. Therefore we may need as much info as we can get, so Im going to get voting right away.

VOTE ABE SARGENT

Nice fake reveal last game.

[britrock88]

JAG picked the first name on the list, so I'll pick the second.

VOTE CrimsonFox

[britrock88]

Anyone with a special role knows that we're in 1 of 2 set-ups. This will be good information to hold onto in case somebody fake reveals in a way that's contrary to what the possible set-ups are (as people with special roles will have some idea of).

[CrimsonFox]

Man wants me to kill him, I'll try and kill him.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

GAME ON!

[CrimsonFox]

JAG picked the first name on the list, so I'll pick the second.

VOTE CrimsonFox


gee that's gratitude after I specifically did NOT go after you and went to Simbo instead last game because of all the nice civ advice you gave.

[CrimsonFox]

At first glance, I hope the contents aren't game 3. E wolves and a cultist vs. a village without roles looks tough. Also interesting that two of the possible options are seerless games. Therefore we may need as much info as we can get, so Im going to get voting right away.

VOTE ABE SARGENT

Nice fake reveal last game.

Is the game going to stay one way the whole time I wonder. Like can the game change to another game at a certain point? That would be scary.

[Abe Sargent]

At first glance, I hope the contents aren't game 3. E wolves and a cultist vs. a village without roles looks tough. Also interesting that two of the possible options are seerless games. Therefore we may need as much info as we can get, so Im going to get voting right away.

VOTE ABE SARGENT

Nice fake reveal last game.



Ahhhh.......

[CrimsonFox]

villager checking in!!


LIES!

[Abe Sargent]

Well, your Abe has arrived, and I was the first one with a vote on me!!!

[CrimsonFox]

Well, your Abe has arrived, and I was the first one with a vote on me!!!

Are all the other Abes evil? or good? :)

[Abe Sargent]

I won't know until I openthe box!

[CrimsonFox]

What's in the booooooooooooooooooooooooooox?

What's in the booooooooooooooooooooooooox????????

http://stillsinglebecause.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/funny-brad-pitt-seven-box-scene.jpg

[Autumn]

To clarify the rules, everybody is aware of their role (well, unless there's a wolf cub in the game). The only uncertainty is what other roles are in the game, i.e. what set of roles you are actually playing. If you were given a role you definitely have it, and if you weren't given a role then you definitely don't have it.

[britrock88]

gee that's gratitude after I specifically did NOT go after you and went to Simbo instead last game because of all the nice civ advice you gave.

;)

Sorry, CF. Still willing to give Civ advice, and I promise I don't intend to pick on you.

[booradley]

Hello! I come bearing pitchforks and yuks. Now, then. Puppies line up on the left for Snausages, villagers on the right for high-fives ...

[hoopsguy]

What's in the booooooooooooooooooooooooooox?

What's in the booooooooooooooooooooooooox????????

http://stillsinglebecause.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/funny-brad-pitt-seven-box-scene.jpg

Love this movie, and find myself making references to this line way more often than would seem natural in any normal conversations.

[booradley]

Love this movie, and find myself making references to this line way more often than would seem natural in any normal conversations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7AKbXRGEM0

This is what I first thought of. Surprise.

[JAG]

To clarify the rules, everybody is aware of their role (well, unless there's a wolf cub in the game). The only uncertainty is what other roles are in the game, i.e. what set of roles you are actually playing. If you were given a role you definitely have it, and if you weren't given a role then you definitely don't have it.

I am the egg man.

[DaddyTorgo]

Checking in villager-style. Lemme read up on what the potential rulesets and everything are.

[Abe Sargent]

I am the egg man.

You lie!!!! I am the Egg Man. Check out my post from yesterday to prove it!!! C'Mon JAG< you should know me better than that by now....

[Darth Vilus]

Villager checking in

[JAG]

You lie!!!! I am the Egg Man. Check out my post from yesterday to prove it!!! C'Mon JAG< you should know me better than that by now....

LOL, well played Abe, well played. :)

[Simbo Klice]

Hmmmm, I'd guess after a couple days we'll be able to narrow it down to 2 of the games based on who dies. I think if it's set 1 or 2, we have a slight advantage, 3 a disadvantage, and 4 is basically a roulette spin, could go bad either way quickly. Not going to vote yet.

[britrock88]

Somewhat reiterating what I said on p. 1, but if anyone is roled, s/he can narrow to 2 which of the game sets we're in. And any combination of roled players somehow communicating to each other (except seer/BG) can definitively answer which game set we're in.

That said, what pros are cons are there to knowing the precise game set? The best thing I can think of is preventing fake reveals of roles that are not possibly in play. In that case, we could either figure out and announce the game set to stifle the possibility of fake reveals, or wait for a fake reveal to occur and have 2 roled players corroborate to rebut the reveal.

[CrimsonFox]

You lie!!!! I am the Egg Man. Check out my post from yesterday to prove it!!! C'Mon JAG< you should know me better than that by now....


LOL! Here it goes, here it goes, here it goes again!

[Simbo Klice]

Somewhat reiterating what I said on p. 1, but if anyone is roled, s/he can narrow to 2 which of the game sets we're in. And any combination of roled players somehow communicating to each other (except seer/BG) can definitively answer which game set we're in.

That said, what pros are cons are there to knowing the precise game set? The best thing I can think of is preventing fake reveals of roles that are not possibly in play. In that case, we could either figure out and announce the game set to stifle the possibility of fake reveals, or wait for a fake reveal to occur and have 2 roled players corroborate to rebut the reveal.

The wolves already have it narrowed down to two based on if they have a seer or not. I think knowing if we have a cultist is important, or if there is a wolf seer. Basically just knowing what we're up against. Even those of us who think we're simple Vanilla Villagers have a 4.16% chance of being a Wolf Cub. Since there's a game in there with no roled villagers, we could have no means of busting a fake reveal.

I'm probably going to be skeptical of any reveals until we know more (unless it comes with a result).

[CrimsonFox]

To clarify the rules, everybody is aware of their role (well, unless there's a wolf cub in the game). The only uncertainty is what other roles are in the game, i.e. what set of roles you are actually playing. If you were given a role you definitely have it, and if you weren't given a role then you definitely don't have it.

Good. Something in the rules made me think that roles were hidden from even us. THus how does a seer know he needs to scan. :) Glad it isn't Batman-complicated. :)

[Chief Rum]

Man wants me to kill him, I'll try and kill him.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

GAME ON!

Hey, everyone, I'm a vanilla vill... wait, say what who wants to kill who now?

[spleen1015]

Howdy folks. Villager checking in.

[booradley]

Well, while I'm sure most of the preceding is nothing more than good humor, hmm. Wolves are sneaky. Wolves feint with the left while harboring darker intentions with their right. If anyone would want to agitate early, it'd probably be a wolf.

Vote JAG

Sorry, bro. Just remember, all dogs go to heaven. I saw it on the TV.

[Abe Sargent]

I've seen that movie like ten times

[JAG]

Well, while I'm sure most of the preceding is nothing more than good humor, hmm. Wolves are sneaky. Wolves feint with the left while harboring darker intentions with their right. If anyone would want to agitate early, it'd probably be a wolf.

Vote JAG

Sorry, bro. Just remember, all dogs go to heaven. I saw it on the TV.

Overly complicated explanation of D1 vote, obviously a wolf move.

[GoldenEagle]

Checking in.

Nothing better than morning coffee and a fresh game of Werewolf.

[Autumn]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/homework-class-test-school-of-fail-just-put-in-a-box-and-be-done-with-it.jpg?w=480

Welcome to Monday. All villager received a message stating "You are a simple villager." This was not meant as a slur on your intellectual abilities. Not yet.

[DaddyTorgo]

Overly complicated explanation of D1 vote, obviously a wolf move.

He's new isn't he?

[DaddyTorgo]

He's new isn't he?

OMG I'm trying to cover for him! We must both be wolves!! That's it...you cracked the game JAG!!! :D

[booradley]

Overly complicated explanation of D1 vote, obviously a wolf move.

Shucks, no. I am bathing in garlic oil and singing "Good Times" as I speak.

[JAG]

He's new isn't he?

I wanted him to get the feel of the game right away. Next time he'll just vote for someone D1 and I'll say, "He's trying not to give anything away, obviously a wolf move". In fact every new player should have to read EagleFan's post about sniffing out wolves on D1.

[Abe Sargent]

Shucks, no. I am bathing in garlic oil and singing "Good Times" as I speak.

Don't come into my kitchen

[spleen1015]

VOTE britrock88

I think his reasoning for voting for CrimsonFox is a little suspect, but it is still day 1 so who can really say?

[booradley]

Don't come into my kitchen

Doesn't like garlic. Is prepping for a meal. Hmmm ... [narrowed eyes] Hmmm ...

[spleen1015]

Is it me or is this game really quiet so far?

No action is a good thing for the wolves.

[GoldenEagle]

Yea, it has been pretty quiet so far. It might help to try to figure out what game we are in, but I think that would give the wolves a much greater advantage to know what game we are in as opposed to the village.

[JAG]

Most of the D1 action is discussing the ruleset, but most of them are fairly vanilla other than maybe game 4. So that leaves us with the voting and discussion after votes are put down. We've only had about five votes to this point.

[spleen1015]

#48 - JAG voted Abe Sargent
#49 - britrock88 voted CrimsonFox
#51 - CrimsonFox voted Chief Rum
#77 - booradley voted JAG
#87 - spleen1015 voted britrock88

1 - Abe Sargent
1 - CrimsonFox
1 - Chief Rum
1 - JAG
1 - britrock88

[DaddyTorgo]

Going to vote after I go to grab a coffee.

[DaddyTorgo]

No reason other than we need to get some consolidation moving.

Open to moving wherever of course. May try to do some holiday shopping later, but I can't imagine I'd be out until deadline.

VOTE JAG

[britrock88]

We could also benefit from a participation rate better than 6/13...

[Darth Vilus]

I havent played in awhile, what's a wolf seer?

[Suicane75]

No real reason other than a gut instinct, but that could also be the pizza I ate this morning.

Vote: Spleen

[JAG]

I havent played in awhile, what's a wolf seer?

Bunch of possible roles listed page 1, basically it's a wolf that scans for the seer.

[Darth Vilus]

Ah, gotcha

[britrock88]

Hit & run again. I'll update the vote count.

[CrimsonFox]

Hey, everyone, I'm a vanilla vill... wait, say what who wants to kill who now?


Last game you said rule #1 is always kill Chief Rum. So I'm trying to follow your rules :)

[britrock88]

1 Abe - JAG (48)
1 britrock - spleen (87)
1 CF - britrock (49)
1 CR - CF (51)
2 JAG - booradley (77), DT (94)
1 spleen - Suicane (97)

yet to vote: Abe, mauboy, Simbo, CR, GE, DV

[CrimsonFox]

Awesome, lotsa people I haven't played with before and some not for awhile. :)

[CrimsonFox]

hmmm rather a lot of candidates today. Any more coming?

[Darth Vilus]

is that a request? sounds wolfish ;-)

[CrimsonFox]

is that a request? sounds wolfish ;-)


go for it DV, give us your best vote. We want to know what inquiring sith lords think.

[Darth Vilus]

And you shall continue to want. You won't know my plan until it's far too late

[Chief Rum]

I should vote Suicane75 for voting in a sixth candidate when we already had five.

Wrap your head around that one!

[britrock88]

THEORETICAL CONTENTS OF SCHRODINGER'S BOX

Game Number 1: Game Number 2: Game Number 3: Game Number 4:
2 Werewolves 2 Werewolves 3 Werewolves 3 Werewolves
1 Werewolf Seer 1 Werewolf Seer
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
1 Seer 1 Hunter 1 Cultist 1 Cultist
1 Bodyguard 9 villagers 9 villagers 1 Wolf Cub
8 villagers 1 Seer
1 Bodyguard
1 Hunter
5 villagers



Thinking about this, we might have some trouble figuring out exactly which game we're in. I'll break down the problems for each game:

Game 1: seer and/or BG reveal only narrows it down to #1 and #4; WW seer has no incentive to reveal
Game 2: only the hunter can reveal; if he does, we'll likely wonder whether there are other roles (from #4) that will reveal, so we might not come to a consensus to conclude we're in #2. Also, a reveal from the hunter seems to make things tough for the village, as the hunter is its only roled player.
Game 3: the only person who could reveal is the cultist; given the precarious situation s/he is in, why would s/he reveal?
Game 4: the easiest one to determine we're in, but it would require both the hunter and either the seer or BG to reveal; that's 2 big roles to give away.

[Chief Rum]

Imma gonna vote CF, because he's too good at following the rules.

VOTE CRIMSON FOX

Legal Note:

This is a Day One vote. By definition, it is a vote with little to no interpretive value with respect to the actual lupishness of said candidate. This is not to be construed, however, as a confirmation that said candidate is indeed innocent, unless he actually is. Any use of said vote against said candidate as a future basis for starting a lynch vote against said candidate or against said voter is strictly prohibited.

Unless he is a wolf, then this vote means everything, and I knew it all along.

[JAG]

CF

[JAG]

Oops. Was supposed to be, CF and I get to practice our gallows humor, but abbreviated due to the thumb slip.

[CrimsonFox]

Oops. Was supposed to be, CF and I get to practice our gallows humor, but abbreviated due to the thumb slip.

or jello humor

[CrimsonFox]

unvote Chief Rum
vote Spleen

[Abe Sargent]

Sorry for being out most of today. I have a class that runs from january 7-11 and i have to have read 8 books by then and be prepared to discuss them in depth and be quizzed on them. I read the first of them today, CS Lewis's Miracles. I will be reading several more this week.

[Abe Sargent]

Alright, now tht I'm back for the nght, let's look a twhere I should go with my vote

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Chief Rum


he wants vote alignment, and he's vet enough not to get surprised by Day One votes his way. It's like a meta-vote

[JAG]

What do you mean about vote alignment? I didn't see him say that.

[JAG]

1 Abe - JAG (48)
1 britrock - spleen (87)
2 CF - britrock (49), Chief Rum (110)
1 CR - Abe (117)
2 JAG - booradley (77), DT (94)
2 spleen - Suicane (97), CrimsonFox (114)

yet to vote: mauboy, Simbo, GE, DV

[DaddyTorgo]

Well that was a pretty failed experiment at Christmas shopping today...LOL

[spleen1015]

UNVOTE britrock88
VOTE CrimsonFox

You don't get to change your vote to me without explanation. Yes, I am voting strictly to break the tie that I am in.

[Abe Sargent]

What do you mean about vote alignment? I didn't see him say that.

He said he considered voting the guy who placeda vote on a sixth dude.

[booradley]

Boo the villager here. Wait, that doesn't sound quite right. OK - I am a villager and I am checking in. Does everyone like my new scent?

[GoldenEagle]

That was kind of a weird move by CF, but that is pretty typical for his style of play.

I am a big fan of making ties on day 1 so we can see which way the voting goes. So therefore:

VOTE JAG

[britrock88]

1 Abe - JAG (48)
3 CF - britrock (49), Chief Rum (110), spleen (121)
1 CR - Abe (117)
3 JAG - booradley (77), DT (94), GE (124)
2 spleen - Suicane (97), CrimsonFox (114)

yet to vote: mauboy, Simbo, DV

[britrock88]

lupishness

Love this! :)

(lupidity? lupousness? lupessence?)

[britrock88]

Luposity!

[Autumn]

Just got back, catching up and looking for any questions.

[DaddyTorgo]

Just got back, catching up and looking for any questions.

WHO ARE THE WOLVES!?!?!?

there's a question for ya

[Autumn]

Current Vote Tally
Abe Sargent (1) - JAG (48)
CrimsonFox (3) - Britrock (49) Chief Rum (110) Spleen1015 (121)
JAG (3) - Booradley (77) Daddytorgo (94) GoldenEagle (124)
Chief Rum (1) - Abe Sargent (117)
spleen1015 (2) - Suicane75 (97) CrimsonFox (114)

[JAG]

Still a few stragglers, but looks like I will be a person of interest in this lynch. There hasn't been much chatter so there isn't a lot to look at, but DT has pinged me a bit, mostly just the below post:

No reason other than we need to get some consolidation moving.

Open to moving wherever of course. May try to do some holiday shopping later, but I can't imagine I'd be out until deadline.

VOTE JAG

That struck me as possibly being an under-the-radar way to signal wolves he was the cultist and was ready to move to another candidate if a wolf was in danger. As a wolf he wouldn't need to be out there with his schedule since he could tell them in a PM. So that could be an indication there was a wolf on the block when it was 1-1-1-1-1, which isn't overly helpful since statistically there would be a decent chance of that with any random 5 players too, but it could be a starting point.

And that's my crazy day 1 theory for this game. :)

[Abe Sargent]

I guess I'll move to break a D1 tie bout 25 minutes left. Eitehr JAG or CF. Or I could move up spleen to make it 3-3-3/ I'da rather push someone in front though. And he's voting for me.... :)



unvote CR
Vote JAG

[britrock88]

Quiet deadline...?

[spleen1015]

Quiet deadline...?

with 3 no votes.

[britrock88]

Abe Sargent (1) - JAG (48)
CrimsonFox (3) - Britrock (49), Chief Rum (110), Spleen1015 (121)
JAG (4) - Booradley (77), Daddytorgo (94), GoldenEagle (124), Abe Sargent (132)
spleen1015 (2) - Suicane75 (97), CrimsonFox (114)

[britrock88]

DV, mauboy, and... Simbo.

[britrock88]

6, 2, and 3 posts...

DV's checked in today, rather early. Mau missed D1 of the last game, too. Simbo...?

[booradley]

Getting intense now with 20 minutes to go. Where are our non-voters?

[britrock88]

Autumn, we're not looking at a deadline multiverse, are we? ;)

[GoldenEagle]

I wish we could switch our votes to one of these people who have not showed up, but I am not sure if there are enough people around to do that.

[Autumn]

Autumn, we're not looking at a deadline multiverse, are we? ;)

Wait for next game ... ;-)

[Abe Sargent]

I wish we could switch our votes to one of these people who have not showed up, but I am not sure if there are enough people around to do that.


I don't like doing that Day 1. Day two, start pushing, but life interferes with all of us.

[JAG]

Pros of voting for me:

1. You will not lose a roled player.
2. You will get an immediate speculation thread created in the offsite forum.

Cons of voting for me:

1. You will have voted off a villager (though the wolves can put this in the pro section)

[JAG]

Unvote Abe Sargent
Vote Crimson Fox

[DaddyTorgo]

Oooh a tie

[JAG]

Not much choice for me, unless someone switches off. I don't really feel strongly one way or another about CF or spleen.

[JAG]

Of course if CF could have been here now, he would've voted for me.

[GoldenEagle]

Do we know what the tie rules are? I am guessing based on the ruleset some fucked up shit is going to happen.

[JAG]

Weren't you the one who liked ties?

A tie is either a no-lynch or double lynch.

[britrock88]

I'm keeping my vote on CF. Nothing against him, but JAG being around at deadline is nice.

[JAG]

Unvote CF
Vote JAG

[DaddyTorgo]

what the hell is that??

[JAG]

Good luck village. Wake up yo!

[DaddyTorgo]

deadline

[Darth Vilus]

vote CF

So sorry everyone, my iPhone ran out of power and I just got home about 5 min ago

[Autumn]

Deadline!

[britrock88]

Oof.

[spleen1015]

Come on JAG.

[Autumn]

Darth's vote did not count (only votes up to 9:59 count).

[Darth Vilus]

I'll bring it with me tomorrow

[DaddyTorgo]

self-sacrifice is admirable.

makes me pretty damn sure we've got a villager here though :(

[Autumn]

Final Vote Count

CrimsonFox (3) - Britrock (49) Chief Rum (110) Spleen1015 (121)
JAG (5) - Booradley (77) Daddytorgo (94) GoldenEagle (124) Abe Sargent (132) JAG (151)
Spleen1015 (2) - Suicane75 (97) CrimsonFox (114)

[Autumn]

Calculating Box Weight

[Autumn]

Removing contents

[GoldenEagle]

Wow. That is like the end of a movie where you say to yourself "I didn't see THAT coming!"

[Autumn]

You fight and wrestle and rassle over who to thrust out of the box. Deciding on JAG as the most likely werewolf, and even he can't argue the point, you burn him, or lynch him, or throw him out of the box. You're unsure what exactly.

[Autumn]

Peering at JAG's now still corpse you notice that he appears perfectly human.

JAG was a villager.

[spleen1015]

self-sacrifice is admirable.

makes me pretty damn sure we've got a villager here though :(

Of course we do, but it doesn't help. With a tie, there's a chance he stays alive. Otherwise he's dead anyway and we find out about CF as well.

Other than potentially saving another villager, self sacrifice doesn't help in this situation, IMO.

[Autumn]

Day 1 is complete. Night One will end at 11 pm EST.

[Darth Vilus]

Ouch, bummer

[booradley]

Well, shit ...

[Abe Sargent]

That was unseen

[spleen1015]

Day 1 is complete. Night One will end at 11 pm EST.

Did you use a number in Day 1 and then type out One in Night One on purpose? :D

[Autumn]

Maybe?

[DaddyTorgo]

Hey Autumn - if JAG was the cultist would that have been revealed at death, or would he have come up as a vanilla villager?

That's the only explanation I can think of...

[Autumn]

All roles will be revealed at death.

[spleen1015]

Hey Autumn - if JAG was the cultist would that have been revealed at death, or would he have come up as a vanilla villager?

That's the only explanation I can think of...

I had the same thought.

[DaddyTorgo]

Okay, so that's not it. That would have been too lucky for us though I guess.

[Autumn]

Night Deadline

[Autumn]

The sun rises and you all wake and count your numbers, worried about those werewolf attacks you hear so much about.

Someone seems to be missing. Oh no, there he is. His head at least. It seems that spleen1015 did not make it through the night. Too bad, because with all these notepads and everything it seems he was a rather observant fellow.

Spleen1015 was a Seer.

[Autumn]

Day 2 has begun. Votes are due by Tuesday, 10 pm EST

[britrock88]

...wow.

[GoldenEagle]

Damn.

[britrock88]

Alright, we're in 1 or 4. The count is either 8:3 or 9:3, depending on whether we have a hunter. We have a bodyguard.

[spleen1015]

Good luck guys.

[DaddyTorgo]

Damn. Talk about worst-case scenarios.

[Autumn]

I am out for the night. Don't wreck the place.

[britrock88]

Time Post Voter Votee #
11:47 48 JAG Abe 1
14:36 49 brit CF 1
15:23 51 CF CR 1
08:47 77 boo JAG 1
11:22 87 spleen brit 1
14:31 94 DT JAG 2
14:59 97 Sui spleen 1
15:49 110 CR CF 2
16:42 114 CF x CR 0
spleen 2
17:45 117 Abe CR 1
18:06 121 spleen x brit 0
CF 3
18:45 124 GE JAG 3
20:35 132 Abe x CR 0
JAG 4
20:51 144 JAG x Abe 0
CF 4
20:59 151 JAG x CF 3
JAG 5

DNV: DV, mau, Simbo

[britrock88]

VOTE Darth Vilus

Just a feeling I got... he was the most conspicuous of the non-voters, and was around at deadline, posting just after JAG broke the tie and sacrificed himself. If this were a V/V race, as the odds are on it being, isn't that a great excuse to make?

[Abe Sargent]

Holy Crap!


So JAG was not the Cultist, but spleen was the seer? Ouch!

[hoopsguy]

One man's thoughts on werewolves and garlic since it came up earlier in the thread.

Do werewolves hate garlic (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_werewolves_hate_garlic)

I was beginning to think this was a friendly game of vampire :)

[Simbo Klice]

Ugh, not good. Sorry I missed deadline, I'm a night schedule guy and with the Titans playing I completely forgot. Will not happen again... I'm going to back brit here and
Vote Darth Vilus

[Darth Vilus]

Ah shit, lost the seer on the first day. Damn

[Abe Sargent]

This is what you are looking for:



Aconitum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aconitum)

[Abe Sargent]

I almost used it as an item in one of my WW games where I regularly use items.

[CrimsonFox]

back. I escaped fire there. To the corpse of spleen, I voted you to get another person up there that isn't me or jag because I knew JAG would just vote for me if I voted for him and I wanted someone elswe dying that isn't me. I basicvally flipped a coin between the others. Didn't choose Abe because I expected JAG to move off and thus not solve my problem. But Jag voted for me anyway. then he voted for himself. Thank you for your noble sacrifice Jagster. Don't know why he did that. Guess cause he was vanilla. Sorry man.

[CrimsonFox]

hey brit!

[britrock88]

Hey, CF. :)

[CrimsonFox]

DV's vote on me does strike me as a Passacaglia type endofday vote. The kind where he fakes a late vote and apologizes just to save face. *shrug* pass did that constantly. Could be that.

CR seems to like me.

But I think it is time to remind mauboy he is playing again.

vote mauboy

[CrimsonFox]

Hey, CF. :)


and while we're on the subject, thanks for almost killing me heh ;)

[Suicane75]

I'm bowled away that someone would off themselves. I guess it was that pizza I ate this morning.

I've played WW a few times on another forum but I think this is a whole different animal, lol.

[CrimsonFox]

hey simbo. what's shakin? so did titans win?

[CrimsonFox]

I'm bowled away that someone would off themselves. I guess it was that pizza I ate this morning.

I've played WW a few times on another forum but I think this is a whole different animal, lol.

yeah it is a weird bunch for sure. :) speaking of which...what's playin, Abe?

I think hoops and mauboy have the best stories tho :)

[Simbo Klice]

hey simbo. what's shakin? so did titans win?

They didn't win so much as the Jets lost. I kind of wanted them to blow it for draft position, but I'm happy that we got our revenge for the Jets keeping us out of the playoffs by blowing it week 17 vs. Miami last year.

As for the game, my only thought is why the wolves targeted spleen so early, as he's pretty new (or at least I don't think I've played with him, if he's got past rep then this is irrelevant). They couldn't have gotten a seer result yet, so I'm thinking they were probably trying to avoid protection.

I'm pretty sure the wolves now know which gametype we're playing based on if they have a seer or not. That probably doesn't matter much, but I think we're better off if it's gametype 1 as there's no wolf cub or cultist to worry about.

[CrimsonFox]

They didn't win so much as the Jets lost. I kind of wanted them to blow it for draft position, but I'm happy that we got our revenge for the Jets keeping us out of the playoffs by blowing it week 17 vs. Miami last year.

As for the game, my only thought is why the wolves targeted spleen so early, as he's pretty new (or at least I don't think I've played with him, if he's got past rep then this is irrelevant). They couldn't have gotten a seer result yet, so I'm thinking they were probably trying to avoid protection.

I'm pretty sure the wolves now know which gametype we're playing based on if they have a seer or not. That probably doesn't matter much, but I think we're better off if it's gametype 1 as there's no wolf cub or cultist to worry about.

yeah i think you're right. We know we have a seer. And they should know (based on what Autumn said about everyone knowing roles) if they have a seer or not.

[booradley]

If this is Game 1, then Houston, we have ourselves a problem ...

[DaddyTorgo]

FYI - I'm going to be sporadic today. I have a doctor's appointment, then I have to hit the gym, then just a couple hours here at the office before I head in to town for our holiday dinner. There's a chance (dunno what %, but a chance) that I won't make it back before deadline. I sure hope I'm not out that late, but it's possible.

So don't expect a ton from me, and the odds are quite good that I won't be changing my early vote late in the day - in fact you can pretty much count on it (unless I sneak off and do a quick-check and can manage to get a vote-change in).

[britrock88]

2 DV - britrock (189), Simbo (192)
1 mauboy - CF (199)

[britrock88]

and while we're on the subject, thanks for almost killing me heh ;)

Hey, I only put the first vote on you. It took 3 others to get you into a 4-4 tie with JAG...

[britrock88]

I've played WW a few times on another forum but I think this is a whole different animal, lol.

...couldn't that also be the pizza? :)

[mauchow]

Jesus. I did it again. Mondays apparently are really bad fr me...

[mauchow]

I am trying to look into Spleen's posts to see what may have pinged seer but I'm not seeing it.

[mauchow]

Come on JAG.

This is the only one that came out to me as a possibility but only if there is a Night 0 scan for the seer in which if the random villager scan was JAG and him saying that because he knew he was villager could ping someone. I don't suppose we know if there was a N0 scan do we?

[mauchow]

vote daddy torgo

The whole "admirable but I think we got a villager thing..." just rubs me ever so slightly.

[mauchow]

This is the only one that came out to me as a possibility but only if there is a Night 0 scan for the seer in which if the random villager scan was JAG and him saying that because he knew he was villager could ping someone. I don't suppose we know if there was a N0 scan do we?

I need to use commas and periods.. Anyway, I would mark it down as bad luck for us to lose our seer on the first night.

[Abe Sargent]

Morning all

[DaddyTorgo]

vote daddy torgo

The whole "admirable but I think we got a villager thing..." just rubs me ever so slightly.

I pinged you the wrong way last game too, didn't i? :)

[mauchow]

I pinged you the wrong way last game too, didn't i? :)

Did you? I don't think so. Last game I think it was Abe that pinged me early.

[booradley]

One man's thoughts on werewolves and garlic since it came up earlier in the thread.

Do werewolves hate garlic (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_werewolves_hate_garlic)

I was beginning to think this was a friendly game of vampire :)

Do NOT come between me and my garlic, sir (note 4th bullet from bottom):

http://americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/10/garlic_superstitions_folklore.html

Oh yeah, you heard THAT. Now, perhaps it's you asked your doctor if garlic is right for you ...

[booradley]

Perhaps it's time. Stupid fingers - type gooder!

[CrimsonFox]

I so want spaghetti and garlic bread right now. thanks...

[Simbo Klice]

I am trying to look into Spleen's posts to see what may have pinged seer but I'm not seeing it.

I looked too. The only thing I could think of was that he said "Villager checking in", but didn't say vanilla or seer. Though I don't know if you guys' usual terminology implies vanilla in that instance.

[CrimsonFox]

I don't think he would purposely hint that he was the seer on day one. Doesn't make any sense. I think they got lucky.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't want to hear about what they did to ping each other last night alright?

[CrimsonFox]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..........

[CrimsonFox]

let's vote for Chubby. Hi Chubby!

[Abe Sargent]

I don't see Chubby, just me n you, rendezvous, at the club at the end of the street.

[CrimsonFox]

what?? He was just here! Oh no scooby He was a g-g-g-g-ghooooooost!!!!!!!!!!!

[mauchow]

I'm actually a simple villager!

[britrock88]

I don't think he would purposely hint that he was the seer on day one. Doesn't make any sense. I think they got lucky.

This seems likeliest.

[britrock88]

1 DT - mauboy (214)
2 DV - britrock (189), Simbo (192)
1 mauboy - CF (199)

[Abe Sargent]

Has anyone not checked in?

[Suicane75]

Vote: BritRock88

For now.

[booradley]

Vote CrimsonFox

[GoldenEagle]

It is another quiet day around here.

Abe, I think everyone has checked in so far.

I have to ref a soccer game tonight, so I will probably place my vote before then. But I should be back at deadline to see how things go down.

[Abe Sargent]

Cool cool

[Abe Sargent]

Alright, let's push a candidate out there already.


No reason for this vote other than math -i want to vote for either mauboy or DT, since they have a vote already.


Vote DaddyTorgo

[DaddyTorgo]

Let's make it a 3-way and see if we get some action brewing.

VOTE MAUBOY

[Abe Sargent]

Let's make it a 3-way and see if we get some action brewing.

VOTE MAUBOY


Man, you have been sexual all day long....





And i LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

Man, you have been sexual all day long....





And i LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!

:D

OF course if we don't get any movement going on before I head out I'll have to self-defense vote.

[Abe Sargent]

I'ma a sad and lonely Abe hanging out here in teh thread al by meself

[Abe Sargent]

Hey - people!

[booradley]

I've cast my vote and likely won't be around until after the deadline. Going to the big Wake Forest v. Furman game tonight. Don't act like you're not jealous ...

[CrimsonFox]

Funny thing is I said mauboy's name and then he quickly showed up. :)

[CrimsonFox]

2 DT - mauboy (214) Abe Sargent (237)
2 DV - britrock (189), Simbo (192)
2 mauboy - CF (199) DaddyTargo (238)
1 britrock - Suicane (233)
1 CF - booradley (234)

[CrimsonFox]

I forgot Suicane was playing. heh.

[Abe Sargent]

Every time I see his name I think of ht ePokemon

[mauchow]

Funny thing is I said mauboy's name and then he quickly showed up. :)

If that isn't trying to 'plant' doubt ...

[CrimsonFox]

I'ma a sad and lonely Abe hanging out here in teh thread al by meself



Awwww, that's so sad :(

http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/GUqrljf1Nis/mqdefault.jpg

[mauchow]

or plant seed.