The Official 2013 MLB Thread [Archive] - Page 9 - Front Office Football Central

molson

09-11-2013, 01:55 AM

Uehara's statline on the year

3-0, 1.17 ERA, 61.1 IP, 29 HA, 9 BB, 83 K.

Simply amazing.

The superlative accomplishments he's quietly racking up are amazing.

I'm relying on SOSH for the stats here, but apparently his current streak of 10 1/3 perfect innings is the 2nd longest such streak all time by relievers, and #1 all time for any Red Sox pitcher. He's apparently working on one of the top 20 or so relief seasons of all time.

And Boston has still been pretty slow to embrace this Red Sox team, maybe because they're just so burnt out from the failures of recent seasons, or they're just waiting for another collapse, but here they are on 9/11 with the best record in the AL by a large margin. And Buchholz came back tonight and was effective. It could all burn out quickly in the post-season, but not many expected this.

Suicane75

09-11-2013, 02:22 AM

sterlingice

09-11-2013, 05:56 AM

After the loss on Monday night where he made several brutal late-game moves, they were talking about that exact topic all day on the local sports radio today.

Right now, we're 3 games out of the playoffs with 16 games left. We'll enjoy the ride while it lasts and worry about Ned after that.

You really think Ned is the problem? He's a perfectly average manager. He has a bunt fetish, leaves his SPs in a batter or two too long, and makes sometimes baffling lineups but also handles the bullpen well and those baffling lineups are frequently to get guys days off so they're well rested. In short, he has a lot of strengths and weaknesses of a "meh" manager. He's not good but he's not really bad either.

SI

Butter

09-11-2013, 06:56 AM

Fucking Reds. Let's beat the Cards and Dodgers, and then drop 2 straight to the Cubs. Nice job, douches.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-11-2013, 08:29 AM

You really think Ned is the problem? He's a perfectly average manager. He has a bunt fetish, leaves his SPs in a batter or two too long, and makes sometimes baffling lineups but also handles the bullpen well and those baffling lineups are frequently to get guys days off so they're well rested. In short, he has a lot of strengths and weaknesses of a "meh" manager. He's not good but he's not really bad either.

SI

I don't think he's the problem. I'm just not sure that he's the answer either. I'd say that means your comments are spot-on.

JPhillips

09-11-2013, 08:49 AM

You really think Ned is the problem? He's a perfectly average manager. He has a bunt fetish, leaves his SPs in a batter or two too long, and makes sometimes baffling lineups but also handles the bullpen well and those baffling lineups are frequently to get guys days off so they're well rested. In short, he has a lot of strengths and weaknesses of a "meh" manager. He's not good but he's not really bad either.

SI

I believe that's called Dusty Baker syndrome.

There is no cure.

cartman

09-11-2013, 09:02 AM

The Rangers have been bi-polar the past couple of months. They go from losing 12 of 15 to winning 19 of 23 now to losing 8 of their past 11. I don't think I've ever seen it where the entire team gets hot or cold at the same time like that.

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 09:08 AM

God I hope Billy Hamilton can hit one day. He's amazing on the basepaths.

The guy is like a real life Willie Mays Hays.

lungs

09-11-2013, 09:14 AM

After the loss on Monday night where he made several brutal late-game moves, they were talking about that exact topic all day on the local sports radio today.

Right now, we're 3 games out of the playoffs with 16 games left. We'll enjoy the ride while it lasts and worry about Ned after that.

I remember what got Ned fired back in '08.... Brian Shouse, a LOOGY that threw 83-84 MPH and got hammered by right-handed hitters, was brought in to face Chase Utley at Ryan Howard. Utley sacrifice bunted, leaving a base open at first base. So Ned decided to walk Ryan Howard because of the open base and have Shouse face Pat Burrell who was a bonafide lefty masher. The results were predictable.

Suburban Rhythm

09-11-2013, 10:04 AM

Pretty cool moment late in the Giants name last night when someone ripped a foul ball down the left field line towards what looked like a grandmother, daughter and granddaughter sitting side by side. The ball is coming right towards the daughter and the grandmother sticks out her glove hand and nabs it. She seemed to be in her 70's and the crowd gave her a nice round of applause.

GIF: Your undisputed 'fan catch' of the year - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/23583724/gif-your-undisputed-fan-catch-of-the-year)

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sterlingice

09-11-2013, 11:16 AM

Holy crap. Talk about the baseball equivalent of "dark thirty" for a start time: 12:05 ET, aka before noon for the rest of us.

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-11-2013, 11:20 AM

Royals are going to skip Danny Duffy's next start since they have an off-day on Thursday. Little surprised they're doing that given what he's done against Detroit this year.

BishopMVP

09-11-2013, 02:32 PM

The superlative accomplishments he's quietly racking up are amazing.

I'm relying on SOSH for the stats here, but apparently his current streak of 10 1/3 perfect innings is the 2nd longest such streak all time by relievers, and #1 all time for any Red Sox pitcher. He's apparently working on one of the top 20 or so relief seasons of all time.

And Boston has still been pretty slow to embrace this Red Sox team, maybe because they're just so burnt out from the failures of recent seasons, or they're just waiting for another collapse, but here they are on 9/11 with the best record in the AL by a large margin. And Buchholz came back tonight and was effective. It could all burn out quickly in the post-season, but not many expected this.Lowest WHIP ever for a pitcher with at least 50 IP in a season. Last 124 pitches for Uehara: 104 strikes, 32 swings & missed, 16 balls put into play, 0 hits. 31 straight batters retired since a Lyle Overbay double 8/17. He had 1 game vs. the Yankees where he got to 3 balls against 2 hitters, other than that I don't know if anyone's gotten more than 1 against him. Just mowing guys down with a high-80's fastball, a low-80's sinker and pinpoint control of both. I also never realized just how good he was in Japan because he was considered old and broken down when he came over here, but he won 2 Sawamura awards (the Japanese Cy Young) as a starter there over a decade ago.

There's a lot of things I could say about Red Sox "fans" (seems like the Bruins became the cool team for the pink hats and fairweather fans to "live and die" by), and the Boston media, but I'm actually enjoying a good, quiet baseball team go about its business and win games, so it's better off without them. Although it wouldn't kill John Farrell to bench Stephen Drew vs. lefties (.189/.247/.348 this year, .234/.292/.393 career), and play Xander 2-3x a week to see if he should be our backup IF and a potential PH for the postseason :)

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-11-2013, 04:11 PM

Royals win again. Big Game pitches well when we need it. Keep it going, boys!

spleen1015

09-11-2013, 09:17 PM

My hatred for the New York Yankees is getting to an unhealthy point, I think.

Logan

09-11-2013, 09:46 PM

Boo hoo...a pitcher took his time admiring a home run. How dare he.

This is why baseball players are sad people.

Jose Fernandez Hits Home Run, Styles And Profiles, Benches Clear (http://deadspin.com/jose-fernandez-hits-home-run-styles-and-profiles-benc-1297489041)

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 09:59 PM

The Braves also are the team that decided they were going to continually plunk Bryce Harper earlier in the year - so lets not base the entire baseball community on them.

JonInMiddleGA

09-11-2013, 10:06 PM

The Braves also are the team that decided they were going to continually plunk Bryce Harper earlier in the year

Except when they strike him out to end a game :)

Harper is no dummy, his walk-it-out HR routine bought him his ticket to that party. And he knows that.

As for Fernandez, he's said the right things -- and more than I would have expected from most players tbh -- in the wake of today's incident, we'll see if he backs them up next year.

BishopMVP

09-11-2013, 10:07 PM

The Rays starter went 5 2/3, and they just brought in their 7th relief pitcher to start the 10th inning, 3 of whom pitched 6 pitches or less... I feel like I say this every year, but I don't understand why the (theoretically) most important month of baseball is played with fundamentally different rules than the other 5. (That also extends to guys like Billy Hamilton or Quentin Berry who are on the roster solely to be used as pinch runners.)

Jas_lov

09-11-2013, 10:10 PM

I didn't understand why Maddon brought in Roberto Hernandez in that spot. Everybody knows he's awful. They don't have a better option? On the other side, Farrell brings in Uehara in a tie game on the road to give the top of his lineup a chance to win it in the next inning, great move. AL WC is getting very tight with the free falls of Texas and Tampa.

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 10:12 PM

Harper is no dummy, his walk-it-out HR routine bought him his ticket to that party. And he knows that.

Oh please. You plunk the guy once if he admires a HR - doing it continually is just petty BS.

At least during the Cox years the Braves had some class.

JonInMiddleGA

09-11-2013, 10:20 PM

Oh please. You plunk the guy once if he admires a HR - doing it continually is just petty BS.

Petty ... describes whining over anybody hitting that little bitch afaic.

I'd have preferred they put one in his ear hole frankly.

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 10:23 PM

And you just demonstrate the lack of fanbase class the Braves are cursed with :p. Like fanbase, like team?

spleen1015

09-11-2013, 10:32 PM

If you don't want a guy admiring the HR he hit off of you, then don't let him hit it.

larrymcg421

09-11-2013, 10:39 PM

This is so hilarious.

Let's make the Braves look as bad as possible by ignoring the facts of what happened earlier in the game when Johnson hit a HR, plus the spitting incident rounding third that led the incident at home when Brian McCann stood up for his teammate.

Then let's pretend that the Braves under Bobby Cox (who was the #1 defender of his players and instilled that attitude down the line) wouldn't have done the exact same thing so we can whine about them not being as classy as they used to be.

larrymcg421

09-11-2013, 10:40 PM

If you don't want a guy admiring the HR he hit off of you, then don't let him hit it.

Which can be applied to the Marlins as well, who were unhappy with Evan Gattis earlier HR. That was conveniently left out of the earlier whining.

spleen1015

09-11-2013, 10:44 PM

Didn't the Marlins pitcher spit in front of the 3B because the 3B was talking shit after he hit a flyball out to LF?

It is all just baseball and its silly unwritten rules.

JonInMiddleGA

09-11-2013, 10:49 PM

And you just demonstrate the lack of fanbase class the Braves are cursed with :p. Like fanbase, like team?

I'm not even particularly all that much a Braves fan, nothing more than casual at most.

To avoid a needless dola, on the whole "don't let 'em hit homers", that's worked out pretty good for the Braves against BH. He's hit two this year, but is hitting just .195 against them for the season.

larrymcg421

09-11-2013, 10:51 PM

Didn't the Marlins pitcher spit in front of the 3B because the 3B was talking shit after he hit a flyball out to LF?

It is all just baseball and its silly unwritten rules.

I agree. I'm just pointing out there was an earlier incident that led to this one and pretending that the Braves are taking these actions in isolation of everything else is silly.

larrymcg421

09-11-2013, 10:53 PM

And of course the Marlins were the only team that didn't honor Bobby Cox during his farewell season, so they have no business talking about class.

JonInMiddleGA

09-11-2013, 10:54 PM

And of course the Marlins were the only team that didn't honor Bobby Cox during his farewell season, so they have no business talking about class.

Maybe they were afraid nobody would show up & it would just be further embarrassment.

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 11:00 PM

the spitting incident rounding third that led the incident at home

LOL!!! The guy spits in the general vicinity of Johnson and he acts like its some sort of federal case. Atlanta's Channel 11 News didn't even show the "spitting incident" on their 10 PM News - just the watching the pitch and McCann's jawing. McCann even said after the game it was about Fernandez watching the HR. Johnson doesn't mention the spit in after game interviews either (at least all the ones I've read).

Interesting numbers on Harper and HBP: The Braves plunked him 3 times in 2 games; Harper has been plunked 5 times years - so 2 other times by other teams. And only 2 times last season (one being the infamous Hamels "welcome to the majors"). So it isn't like he is in the habit of getting in trouble with MLB teams due to attitude or whatever.

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 11:16 PM

Which can be applied to the Marlins as well, who were unhappy with Evan Gattis earlier HR. That was conveniently left out of the earlier whining.

Benches cleared after the Gattis HR? Fernandez walked up to Gattis's face and told him off? I missed that one :p.

larrymcg421

09-11-2013, 11:17 PM

LOL!!! The guy spits in the general vicinity of Johnson and he acts like its some sort of federal case. Atlanta's Channel 11 News didn't even show the "spitting incident" on their 10 PM News - just the watching the pitch and McCann's jawing. McCann even said after the game it was about Fernandez watching the HR. Johnson doesn't mention the spit in after game interviews either (at least all the ones I've read).

Interesting numbers on Harper and HBP: The Braves plunked him 3 times in 2 games; Harper has been plunked 5 times years - so 2 other times by other teams. And only 2 times last season (one being the infamous Hamels "welcome to the majors"). So it isn't like he is in the habit of getting in trouble with MLB teams due to attitude or whatever.

Even if it was just about the trot, you said yourself that's acceptable if you do it once, so why you're trying to combine it with the Harper incident to make it about some overall lack of class by the Braves is beyond me. And if you don't think Bobby Cox teams did the same thing, it proves you know very little about Cox or the teams that he managed.

ISiddiqui

09-11-2013, 11:20 PM

Cox's teams may have "enforced the rules", but they didn't act petty. The Harper incident just shows the lack of character in that whole lets just plunk this guy 3 times in 2 games for nothing more than because we don't like him.

Besides, you don't deal with a trot by getting in the face of the player and starting a bench clearing (what do you think is going to happen in that case)? You make a comment and, according to baseball rules, you hit another Marlins' guy.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-12-2013, 10:28 AM

For those that may have missed it, fantastic play by Big Game on a come-backer.

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molson

09-12-2013, 11:08 AM

I wonder if MLB has a contingency plan for a 6-way AL Wild Card tie. That would rule.

spleen1015

09-12-2013, 11:12 AM

I wonder if MLB has a contingency plan for a 6-way AL Wild Card tie. That would rule.

That would be nifty.

sterlingice

09-12-2013, 11:44 AM

Round robin tournament with winner take all! Sorry, Red Sox, Tigers, and whoever wins the West- you're eliminated

SI

JonInMiddleGA

09-12-2013, 07:49 PM

Florida Marlins want rookie pitcher Jose Fernandez to tone down behavior - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9665893/florida-marlins-want-rookie-pitcher-jose-fernandez-tone-behavior)

Mike Redmond, to his credit, made it pretty clear how he felt about the whole thing.

And beyond the Braves aspect of it, I believe he sent a pretty strong message about the situation with this quote

In the aftermath of the episode, Redmond drew from criticism from some baseball pundits for not supporting his player.

"If you're only watching two clips of that game, I could see how they could say whatever," Redmond said. "But if you're around here and in this clubhouse every day ...

Shkspr

09-12-2013, 07:53 PM

The Marlins also want him to tone down his performance. If he keeps his play up, someday they may have to pay him almost a million dollars a year.

rowech

09-13-2013, 08:09 PM

Am I the only one noticing how hot Washington has been? Reds better wakeup or it's likely to be down to 4.5 wildcard lead at the end of the night.

cuervo72

09-13-2013, 09:37 PM

Not the only one. I've been waiting for them to be eliminated for a while now, but they keep hanging in there.

DanGarion

09-16-2013, 10:21 AM

http://i.imgur.com/AmxG4l0.jpg

Peregrine

09-17-2013, 10:55 AM

I'm in Pittsburgh for a few Pirates games - wow Cashner was brilliant for the Padres last night. Complete game one hitter, and Burnett pitched well too.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-17-2013, 12:33 PM

Wild card race in the AL is just nuts right now. Certainly Texas and TB are making it interesting by playing poorly down the stretch, but it makes for a lot of interest in a lot of cities, so it's good for baseball.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-17-2013, 02:14 PM

dola

Royals fans are fired up!!!!!

http://www.mlbgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FatRoyalsFanDance.gif

» Fat Dancing Royals Fan Is The Greatest Vine Of All Time Barstool Sports – Chicago (http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/dang-royals-fan-stole-my-girlfriend-again/)

Chief Rum

09-17-2013, 02:42 PM

Angels aren't going anywhere for playoffs this year, of course, but it's kinda nutty how well they have played since Pujols got hurt.

They have won 18 of the last 24 games, and are only four games below .500 right now.

All of a sudden, a rotation of Weaver, Wilson, Richards and Vargas looks pretty promising.

sterlingice

09-17-2013, 02:44 PM

Please take at least 3 of 4 from Texas in the final weekend. kthxbye

SI

Chief Rum

09-17-2013, 04:06 PM

Please take at least 3 of 4 from Texas in the final weekend. kthxbye

SI

The way both teams are playing right now, that could very well happen.

cartman

09-17-2013, 06:24 PM

With their 1-0 lead after the first inning against the Rays, the Rangers have their first lead in 63 innings.

That is insane. Don't think I've ever seen a streak like that.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-17-2013, 09:10 PM

Amazing debut for Yordano Ventura. Royals fans were excited to see this kid pitch in spring training next year. Instead, they bring him up to the majors for his MLB debut and he looked fantastic. Hopefully the Royals can hold the lead and give this kid a win.

sterlingice

09-17-2013, 09:43 PM

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-17-2013, 11:21 PM

Ah, so you were the jinx

SI

Unbelievable. I continue to be baffled why Herrera and Davis continue to be trotted out there in key situations. F'n Yost.

sterlingice

09-18-2013, 05:57 AM

I'm kindof tired of the "it's the manager's fault for every loss" crap going on in KC right now. Everyone out of the pen failed last night, save for Louis Coleman (who only got 1 out but is a ROOGY, with pretty extreme RH/LH splits) and Greg Holland (there was no opportunity for him to pitch unless you say he should have been in the 7th or 8th but that would be baffling and make no sense unless you're just using 20/20 hindsight to hang Yost). Sometimes the blame is on the players for not performing. Smith, Herrera, Hochevar, and Davis all failed. He played the splits and lost- it happens. You could say Crow or Collins but Davis has actually been better than them out of the pen (first run given up this year). Bueno? Joseph? Hardly.

If you're blaming Ned for the loss last night, you're just looking to bury the guy rather than look at what happened. Did he bunt in the 2nd inning? Yes- that was stupidly Yostian but your run expectancy goes down 0.2 for the game (tho the odds are slightly better to get 1 run, but you take away the shot at a bigger inning). Great, so they lose 5 to 3.2 instead. The defense was uncharacteristically bad all night, punctuated by Gordon missing a completely playable ball to let in the go ahead run.

SI

korme

09-18-2013, 09:37 AM

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JonInMiddleGA

09-18-2013, 09:40 AM

LOL, somewhere Mark Sanchez is hoping that he's no longer the signature play involving an athlete's butt :D

spleen1015

09-18-2013, 09:41 AM

Why is Phillips even standing that way?

Logan

09-18-2013, 09:42 AM

I had heard about that play many, many times earlier today. No level of knowledge can prepare you for actually seeing it though. Amazing.

korme

09-18-2013, 09:51 PM

Why is Phillips even standing that way?

Because he's Phillips and he can do whatever he wants. He could have easily twisted around and tagged him, but he thought, hell why not. I don't mind it, but honestly it has to annoy Dusty a little bit.

JPhillips

09-19-2013, 06:50 AM

Hamilton stole four bases last night. Two on pitch-outs.

Sure it was against the Astros, but still.

MizzouRah

09-19-2013, 10:30 AM

Hamilton stole four bases last night. Two on pitch-outs.

Sure it was against the Astros, but still.

Wonder if he can run to Jimmy John's and back in between innings?

JPhillips

09-19-2013, 02:56 PM

From Fangraphs:

Our hero, Billy Hamilton, is tied for 8th in the NL in stolen base runs. He made his major league debut two weeks ago. He started his first big league game yesterday. He has come to bat just nine times. And he's already tied for 8th in the NL in runs added through base stealing. He's got a pretty good chance at finishing the season in the top five.

Matthean

09-19-2013, 03:23 PM

MizzouRah

09-19-2013, 04:09 PM

molson

09-19-2013, 05:14 PM

Why is Phillips even standing that way?

If I had to guess, and this is just from watching the video, Phillips just really wanted that runner's face to go inside his butthole.

MrBug708

09-19-2013, 06:02 PM

And clinched. I know Hanley won't win the MVP, but he's probably the best player, hitter at least, on this Dodger team

cougarfreak

09-20-2013, 09:57 PM

Reds with a huge comeback win on the Pirate tonight.

Scarecrow

09-20-2013, 10:12 PM

I haven't heard too much about him, but Greg Holland (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hollagr01.shtml) should get some consideration for AL Cy Young.

JPhillips

09-20-2013, 10:13 PM

Reds with a huge comeback win on the Pirate tonight.

With more Billy Hamilton heroics.

sterlingice

09-20-2013, 10:13 PM

I haven't heard too much about him, but Greg Holland (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hollagr01.shtml) should get some consideration for AL Cy Young.

He's down to 13.6 K/9 (tho he did just strike out two tonight)

SI

Danny

09-21-2013, 01:04 AM

So its 2am in TB right now, wonder how full the stadium is

sterlingice

09-21-2013, 09:06 AM

I've always wanted to go to a game like that where it goes 14+ (as long as it was a Friday or Saturday game where I didn't care how late I was out).

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-22-2013, 10:19 PM

Awesome finish on the Royals game in front of a packed house. Hard to imagine anything more exciting than a walk-off grand slam at the final home game of the year.

sterlingice

09-23-2013, 08:25 AM

Awesome finish on the Royals game in front of a packed house. Hard to imagine anything more exciting than a walk-off grand slam at the final home game of the year.

Best Royals game to be in the crowd since 2000? Three come to mind and yesterday's would be one. The other would be Opening Day 2004 and then maybe the Ken Harvey game in 2003.

SI

Lathum

09-23-2013, 08:48 AM

Going to the Mets- Reds game tonight. Wheeler pitching. Hoping to play spoiler.

Logan

09-23-2013, 09:26 AM

Going to the Mets- Reds game tonight. Wheeler pitching. Hoping to play spoiler.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Mets shut down Wheeler a couple days ago. Ex-Red Aaron Harang is starting tonight.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-23-2013, 10:00 AM

Best Royals game to be in the crowd since 2000? Three come to mind and yesterday's would be one. The other would be Opening Day 2004 and then maybe the Ken Harvey game in 2003.

SI

Yeah, it was amazing. Watched the home run a few more times on the MLB replay video just to get my fill. Best part was that it was a no-doubter. Justin dropped the bat and started yelling at the home team dugout right away while the crowd just exploded. I remember when I was a kid the last time we had meaningful games. It felt like that.

Lathum

09-23-2013, 10:47 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Mets shut down Wheeler a couple days ago. Ex-Red Aaron Harang is starting tonight.

well son of a bitch, when I checked Friday he was the probable starter, didn't have time to really pay attention over the weekend.

Go Aaron Harang?

sterlingice

09-23-2013, 11:30 AM

I can't remember where I saw this story, but it was in my "to read" pile and is about a month old:
The history of glove-talking in baseball - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9589483/the-history-glove-talking-baseball)

I love Greg Maddux

"So sure enough, he's shutting out the Mets, and he looks in the dugout with one out in the sixth. And Bobby [Cox] says to me, 'Mad Dog is looking for you. Go out there and make sure he's all right.' So I go out there and he says, 'I'm glad you came out. My catcher doesn't speak English. I'm tired of talking to Chipper. So it was nice of you to come out here. You got anything you need to ask me?' And I said, 'Yeah, you planning on going seven tonight or all nine?'"

SI

JetsIn06

09-23-2013, 05:03 PM

Manny Machado just went down with what looks like an ACL or other serious knee injury. Hoping it's not as bad as it looked. :(

CraigSca

09-23-2013, 05:16 PM

Manny Machado just went down with what looks like an ACL or other serious knee injury. Hoping it's not as bad as it looked. :(

Awful

PilotMan

09-23-2013, 09:26 PM

Manny Machado just went down with what looks like an ACL or other serious knee injury. Hoping it's not as bad as it looked. :(

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:(:(:(

JPhillips

09-23-2013, 09:28 PM

Joey Votto is 0 for 0 with 5 walks tonight.

Marty must be killing him.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-23-2013, 10:04 PM

cartman

09-23-2013, 10:31 PM

The Astros were just what the Rangers needed to cure their hitting woes. They scored 12 in the shutout, and Alex Rios became the 7th Ranger to hit for the cycle.

And in other stadium news, I finally tackled the two foot long, chili, onion and jalapeno covered bratwurst known as the Sausage Slugger. Pics to come tomorrow.

cartman

09-23-2013, 10:48 PM

Good to know that "player evolution" now is shaking off a sophomore slump and basically equaling your numbers from your rookie season in your third year.

Suicane75

09-23-2013, 11:30 PM

And in other stadium news, I finally tackled the two foot long, chili, onion and jalapeno covered bratwurst known as the Sausage Slugger. Pics to come tomorrow.

Brother, we don't need to know what it looks like tomorrow.

sterlingice

09-24-2013, 07:27 AM

And in other stadium news, I finally tackled the two foot long, chili, onion and jalapeno covered bratwurst known as the Sausage Slugger. Pics to come tomorrow.

I thought it was called the Bratbino (to go along with the Boomstick). Or have they rebranded it since last year. My wife and I figure we'll split one next time we're in Arlington.

SI

Suburban Rhythm

09-24-2013, 08:28 AM

Full circle

Suburban Rhythm

09-24-2013, 08:30 AM

DOLA

Also worth noting, Adam LaRoche hit the pop out that ended the Nats season, putting the Bucs in the playoffs.

So, it all started with an ex Pirate 1B with creepy facial hair...and ended with an ex Pirate 1B with creepy facial hair.

Full circle, indeed.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-24-2013, 09:21 AM

Another f'n unbelievable win for the Royals as they gain ground again. It really sucks that the season likely only has six games left.

Here's the link to the Alex Gordon double play in the 10th that kept the game alive.

MLB.com Gameday | MLB.com: Gameday (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_09_23_kcamlb_seamlb_1&mode=video&content_id=30890143&tcid=vpp_copy_30890143)

JonInMiddleGA

09-24-2013, 09:30 AM

Also worth noting, Adam LaRoche hit the pop out that ended the Nats season, putting the Bucs in the playoffs.

Former Braves 1B Adam LaRoche at that.

sterlingice

09-24-2013, 09:49 AM

Boy, it's amazing to see the evolution of Hosmer this year. This kid was totally clueless early in the year. Hesitant and no sense of the strike zone with little to no power. Since Brett came on, he's been one of the best hitters in the American League. So much fun to see it all happen.

Too bad Gordon has mostly fallen apart since then and Moustakas improved only because his first half was so dismal.

And best hitters in the AL? Let's see what Fangraphs says:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2013&month=31&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=16,d
Second half wOBA of .379, good for 9th. Didn't realize he was hitting that well so the claim holds up.

The rest of the list has some "fun" bits to it:

Look who's right behind him in 10th and could help a flailing offense- why it's Rookie of the Year candidate Wil Myers. Boy, wouldn't it be great to have a prospect like that?
I thought Butler had been having a subpar 2nd half but 17th tells me otherwise.
Sal Perez comes in at 26th. Gotta like that, coming from a C (2nd behind Santana)
The aforementioned Gordon is 50th, Moustakas is 53rd, and Escobar is 81 out of 81. Oof.
SI

MizzouRah

09-24-2013, 11:25 AM

cartman

09-24-2013, 11:36 AM

The glorious Sausage Slugger:

http://www.fofc-bbcf.com/before.jpg

11 minutes later:
http://www.fofc-bbcf.com/after.jpg

sterlingice

09-24-2013, 11:39 AM

I love that it comes with its own hot dog caddy

SI

Dutch

09-24-2013, 11:41 AM

Lmao!

Butter

09-24-2013, 11:42 AM

What, no cheese?

cartman

09-24-2013, 11:43 AM

Brother, we don't need to know what it looks like tomorrow.

I'm at the office of one of my clients today. One of them saw my Facebook posts last night, and let me know this morning that he has the building maintenance crew altered and ready for action.

SackAttack

09-24-2013, 11:52 AM

I'm at the office of one of my clients today. One of them saw my Facebook posts last night, and let me know this morning that he has the building maintenance crew altered and ready for action.

"I have altered the toilet bowl contents; pray I do not alter them further."

cartman

09-24-2013, 11:55 AM

right letters, wrong combination :D

MizzouRah

09-24-2013, 01:24 PM

Still some bread and peppers left!

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-24-2013, 02:57 PM

Holy Jesus, cartman. Nice work. That's a god-like feat.

Chief Rum

09-24-2013, 04:20 PM

So Vlad Guerrero is officially retiring now. What a great player he was in his prime. It is too bad he had to leave the game this way, out of baseball for two years but still trying to play, instead of wrapping up his final season this year playing.

cartman

09-24-2013, 05:03 PM

Heading back to the Ballpark tonight. Still not hungry from last night. :D

Hopefully Yu can finally get his no-hitter, after two close calls this season against the Astros. And it is Yu Darvish K Counter Bobblehead night.

CraigSca

09-24-2013, 05:44 PM

Good news on Machado - no MCL or ACL damage, was a medial patellofemoral tear instead. Supposed to be out 6-8 weeks with no surgery needed.

BishopMVP

09-24-2013, 07:03 PM

Too bad Gordon has mostly fallen apart since then and Moustakas improved only because his first half was so dismal.

And best hitters in the AL? Let's see what Fangraphs says:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2013&month=31&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=16,d
Second half wOBA of .379, good for 9th. Didn't realize he was hitting that well so the claim holds up.

The rest of the list has some "fun" bits to it:Mike Napoli 3rd, Shane Victorino 7th, Stephen Drew 15th. I recall defending the Red Sox winter signings to an extent, but I don't think anyone predicted that.

And speaking of a sad end to a prolific outfielders career, Ichiro's 80th on that list. .260/.297/.343 for the year, .222/.256/.259 post-ASB.

panerd

09-24-2013, 09:27 PM

Card's rookie Wacha one out away from no hitter. Infield single by Zimmerman. Compensatory pick from Angels after Pujols signing. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but not matching the Angel's offer looks better and better every day.

MizzouRah

09-24-2013, 09:34 PM

Oh Mr. Wacha.. one out! One HECK of a game tonight young man!

sterlingice

09-24-2013, 09:34 PM

God dammit, White Sox

SI

MizzouRah

09-24-2013, 09:34 PM

CleBrownsfan

09-24-2013, 09:39 PM

There is nothing better in sports than a walk off HR - especially when it's your team on top.... Go Tribe!!!

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-24-2013, 09:56 PM

God dammit, White Sox

SI

Cleveland's schedule has obviously been very favorable down the stretch. Not much room for error for the other teams when they have that easy of a finishing schedule.

BishopMVP

09-24-2013, 11:31 PM

Cleveland's schedule has obviously been very favorable down the stretch. Not much room for error for the other teams when they have that easy of a finishing schedule.Ehh... you play in the same division, which means you just had an easier schedule the first 140 games. We're competing for home-field advantage while playing in the toughest division in baseball vs. an Oakland team that plays in the weakest. Go Angels and Mariners! (Especially since Oakland wins all the tiebreakers on us.)

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-25-2013, 10:06 AM

Ehh... you play in the same division, which means you just had an easier schedule the first 140 games.

Don't disagree. The Royals obviously lost this race early on. Average results against Houston along with a 10 game and 7 game losing streak were the crucial blows.

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 09:53 PM

The Braves get into another scuffle involving an opposing player who they think watched a home run for too long? Shocking!

JonInMiddleGA

09-25-2013, 10:21 PM

The Braves get into another scuffle involving an opposing player who they think watched a home run for too long? Shocking!

Yeah, let's just ignore that the p.o.s. opposing player started talking smack before the ball cleared the wall.

The next pitch he sees from an Atlanta pitcher should hit him right between the fucking eyes afaic.

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 10:23 PM

And you wonder why other fans think y'all are classless. Thanks for reminding us. :p

JonInMiddleGA

09-25-2013, 10:27 PM

And you wonder why other fans think y'all are classless. Thanks for reminding us. :p

Wouldn't matter to me if his little stunt came against the Braves or the Yankees or the Giant

Gomez is just another no-class p.o.s., a CEI beanball on him wouldn't bother me one iota.

larrymcg421

09-25-2013, 10:32 PM

And you wonder why other fans think y'all are classless. Thanks for reminding us. :p

Gomez stirred emotions on both teams as the game's second batter.
As soon as he homered, Gomez stood in the batter's box watching the ball sail into the seats in left field, stared at starter Paul Maholm (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7636) and flipped his bat behind him.

Give me a break. There are zero teams in the league you could do this to and not have it end in a scuffle.

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 10:41 PM

How come it always ends up being the Braves that get into these scuffles. Something about them that causes other batters to stare at their home runs? ;)

larrymcg421

09-25-2013, 10:55 PM

How come it always ends up being the Braves that get into these scuffles. Something about them that causes other batters to stare at their home runs? ;)

If a team isn't going to make the playoffs, then I guess they have to try and find some glory in a solo HR.

JonInMiddleGA

09-25-2013, 10:56 PM

How come it always ends up being the Braves that get into these scuffles. Something about them that causes other batters to stare at their home runs? ;)

Maybe they've just got fewer pieces of shit like Gomez on the roster?

Hell,even Gomez said he understood McCann's reaction
“If I’m the catcher, I do the same thing,” Gomez said.

Ditto after the Marlins incident, when even Fernandez' own manager called him out for basically being an asshole all season, in his own clubhouse?

So why is it such a fucking problem for you?

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 10:57 PM

Interesting that non-playoff players don't tend to do this to the Red Sox, Dodgers, A's, Tigers, Cardinals, Pirates.... :D

JonInMiddleGA

09-25-2013, 11:00 PM

Interesting that non-playoff players don't tend to do this to the Red Sox, Dodgers, A's, Tigers, Cardinals, Pirates.... :D

Seems to be bothering you more than the players actually involved. They, after all, are the ones (in both cases) apologizing (sincerity TBD) for being assholes and both specifically noted that they had nothing but respect for McCann stepping up to them.

Begs the question, what's the real problem here?

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 11:02 PM

It's amusing how much you buy into baseball PR statements.

larrymcg421

09-25-2013, 11:07 PM

Interesting that non-playoff players don't tend to do this to the Red Sox, Dodgers, A's, Tigers, Cardinals, Pirates.... :D

I love how you threw the Dodgers in there considering they were involved in the most notorious brawl of the season.

larrymcg421

09-25-2013, 11:12 PM

Seems to be bothering you more than the players actually involved. They, after all, are the ones (in both cases) apologizing (sincerity TBD) for being assholes and both specifically noted that they had nothing but respect for McCann stepping up to them.

Begs the question, what's the real problem here?

I'd guess the real problem is: 73-85 20.0

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 11:15 PM

LOL!

You think I care if my team sucks? Because I was really ripping on the Nats last season as well ;). But you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better that the Braves tend to get all huffy against players hitting HRs against them for no reason (which btw, more folks than me notice - look at the comments section in the MLB.com recap on the brawl).

larrymcg421

09-25-2013, 11:22 PM

the Braves tend to get all huffy against players hitting HRs against them for no reason

Yeah, that's exactly what the discussion has been about.

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 11:25 PM

Oh no, he watched it for an extra second - I'm going to stand and block home plate to let him know how tough we are!!

One wonders if McCann is trying to tough-guy his way into another season with the Braves since he knows if the front office has any brains they'll say goodbye to him and give Gattis his spot.

larrymcg421

09-25-2013, 11:37 PM

Oh no, he watched it for an extra second - I'm going to stand and block home plate to let him know how tough we are!!

Yeah, try again.

One wonders if McCann is trying to tough-guy his way into another season with the Braves since he knows if the front office has any brains they'll say goodbye to him and give Gattis his spot.

Once again, no team reacts differently in this situation. You didn't even argue that point earlier and instead moved on to something else. And if the Braves keep McCann, it will likely be more for his 117 OPS+ than any "tough-guy" antics.

ISiddiqui

09-25-2013, 11:53 PM

rowech

09-26-2013, 05:23 AM

I don't think I've ever seen a catcher stop a player who hit a HR from touching home plate. Have you?

I think plenty of teams act differently. I think this is evidenced by the problem that the Braves have gotten into at least 3 separate times this season. Throw at him later in the game is the usual "punishment".

I'm really not sure how McCann didn't get ejected for escalating everything. This isn't even the second time the Braves have been involved. Isn't it the third because there was something with Bryce Harper?

At some point, I think they're being a wee bit sensitive and I look forward to whoever puts together the tape of Braves players standing at the plate admiring their homeruns as if they would never do such a thing.

Guess from now on, it just needs to be if a player hits a homerun, they just automatically score the run to remove the chance of this happening.

Easy Mac

09-26-2013, 06:00 AM

Come on Issi, you're better than that, did you watch the video?

He's yelling at McCann when he gets in the box for his at bat. He whiffs on the first pitch and states down Maholm the whole time. Then he homers, flips the bat, states down Maholm, and starts yelling at him. He yells the entire time (except when going from 1st to 2nd).

Tell me, in what other instance would that not lead to a bench clearing brawl?

RedKingGold

09-26-2013, 07:03 AM

Lamest debate ever.

lungs

09-26-2013, 07:07 AM

Maholm had thrown at and hit Gomez twice this year already. That's where his jawing came from.

panerd

09-26-2013, 07:13 AM

JonInMiddleGA

09-26-2013, 07:18 AM

Gomez is a stereotypical roid raging prick that thinks he's hot shit. That's where his jawing came from.

Fixed that for you.

lungs

09-26-2013, 07:25 AM

Fixed that for you.

LOL. At least the roids have turned him into one of the better players in the National League.

lungs

09-26-2013, 07:30 AM

Dola

I'm sure if a Brave got plunked twice by another team you'd be screaming for some my dick is bigger than your dick type of retaliation by plunking someone when Gomez does it the right way... takes the son of a bitch deep.

Easy Mac

09-26-2013, 07:49 AM

And then he yells at the pitcher as he rounds the bases. Pretty certain doing it the right way would be hitting a home run and rounding the bases without saying anything.

Do you not agree on the first pitch he swung, missed, then stared down Maholm?

Do you not agree he then hit a home run, stared down Maholm, took his time, then started jawing at him on his way to first?

It doesn't appear Maholm said anything to him, although Gomez started acting crazy again midway between 2nd and 3rd, so we can't tell if Maholm said something then. He also didn't see McCann until he almost ran into him, so I don't think its anything McCann said that set him off again.

Also, it appears to be a beef between Maholm and Gomez dating back to Maholm's days with the Cubs, so it doesn't appear it has anything to do with the Braves.

lungs

09-26-2013, 07:52 AM

I'm not arguing that the Braves shouldn't have reacted the way they did, hell Gomez acknowledges it. I'm just saying this didn't come out of nowhere. Yes, Gomez acted like an ass too. But this stems from the pitch that hit Gomez in the knee this year.

cuervo72

09-26-2013, 07:56 AM

Eh, baseball players are just idiots in general.

spleen1015

09-26-2013, 07:58 AM

I'll go back to what I said earlier in this thread. You don't want someone admiring their homeruns? Don't let them hit them.

Easy Mac

09-26-2013, 08:07 AM

I just hope that this ends whatever dumb stuff was going on between Maholm and Gomez. Watching Freddi Gonzalez talk with the Brewers manager, it appears he had literally no idea what any of it was about. Hopefully he sat Maholm down and told him to forget about it, because it probably cost the Braves Freddie Freeman for the rest of the regular season.

Although, I didn't see Freeman throw punches or elbows like the umps said. I definitely saw him push someone, but he's also like 6'5, so the arms are already pretty high.

My only hope is this snaps the Braves out of their latest funk. They're either white hot for 3 weeks, or ice cold for about the same length of time. The Cards deserve home field, they've at least been consistent all year.

Ronnie Dobbs3

09-26-2013, 08:10 AM

MrBug708

09-26-2013, 08:18 AM

Ah baseball players, the most sensitive athletes in the world

SackAttack

09-26-2013, 08:39 AM

I've never seen a player do what Gomez did. Not just the admiring, but he was yelling at the pitcher/other players incessantly as he rounded the bases. Would have wanted my team to do the same as the Braves.

Of course, though, McCann has to be ejected for that.

Not a Brewers fan, but what I saw was the Braves players talking to him first on replay. Or yelling at him, if you like, starting with Freddie Freeman at first.

I mean, I'm not shocked they reacted, but...if this were just Gomez, I'd say the Braves were justified. Given that they seem to react that way to everybody, I think it's a mix of a dumbass showboating and crybabies picking fights.

Ronnie Dobbs3

09-26-2013, 08:41 AM

I'm missing the context, honestly, as I understand the Braves have a reputation. But Gomez starts the yelling before he even reaches Freeman.

cuervo72

09-26-2013, 09:02 AM

Ok, finally watched it. Seriously, baseball players are the biggest bunch of fucking children.

That said, I'd have loved to see Gomez truck around 3rd base and clock the shit out of McCann.

ISiddiqui

09-26-2013, 09:03 AM

Maybe the Braves will give up 6 runs and committ 3 errors again in the playoffs and then try and blame it all on a bad infield fly call. Oh and the classy fans maybe will not throw shit onto the field this season and act like they have been there before.

C'mon, penerd. Don't you know ANYONE would do that? ;)

ISiddiqui

09-26-2013, 09:06 AM

Given that they seem to react that way to everybody, I think it's a mix of a dumbass showboating and crybabies picking fights.

Though apparently one can't point out that the Braves have a history of getting butthurt at young players and HRs.

I'm missing the context, honestly, as I understand the Braves have a reputation. But Gomez starts the yelling before he even reaches Freeman.

Gomez is yelling at Malholm and said something like (according to what Gomez said after the game) "You hit me, I hit you".

lungs

09-26-2013, 09:14 AM

http://i.minus.com/ioSnS0GoGaEMq.gif

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-26-2013, 09:31 AM

Testosterone is a funny thing, especially when driving a dumb jock to do stupid things.

Logan

09-26-2013, 09:35 AM

I love when supposedly grown men throw out phrases like "the next pitch should hit him between the fucking eyes". Over a baseball game. Mature.

Ronnie Dobbs3

09-26-2013, 09:42 AM

FWIW the HBP that got Gomez steamed from three months ago

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3292393/maholm-gomez.gif

overreactions all around I would say

cartman

09-26-2013, 10:16 AM

I'm a big Twins fan this weekend.

JonInMiddleGA

09-26-2013, 10:35 AM

I love when supposedly grown men throw out phrases like "the next pitch should hit him between the fucking eyes". Over a baseball game. Mature.

Sorry if it bugged you, but it's just the honest truth. I give a flying fuck whether some asshole like Gomez lives or dies.

edit to add: That seems only fair to me, I'm pretty sure he could barely give less of a fuck whether I live or die either.

ISiddiqui

09-26-2013, 10:40 AM

The classlessness keeps on coming!

(though, I admit it is a bit too much to blame an entire fanbase for the over douchiness of JIMG - but he makes it sooo easy).

lungs

09-26-2013, 10:44 AM

It seems like since Tony LaRussa left the Cardinals that they haven't been the self-anointed "Keepers of the Unwritten Rules of Baseball" so I guess the Braves are trying to fill that role.

larrymcg421

09-26-2013, 10:47 AM

I'll go back to what I said earlier in this thread. You don't want someone admiring their homeruns? Don't let them hit them.

Only three teams have allowed fewer HR's than the Braves, so this isn't a problem for them.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-26-2013, 10:47 AM

It seems like since Tony LaRussa left the Cardinals that they haven't been the self-anointed "Keepers of the Unwritten Rules of Baseball" so I guess the Braves are trying to fill that role.

:lol:

larrymcg421

09-26-2013, 10:52 AM

Given that they seem to react that way to everybody,
How do 3 incidents out of 162 games = they react that way to everybody?

JonInMiddleGA

09-26-2013, 11:00 AM

(though, I admit it is a bit too much to blame an entire fanbase for the over douchiness of JIMG - but he makes it sooo easy).

Again, at the risk of repeating myself ... you're overestimating my Braves fandom. I'm as often than not exposed to their doings by the virtue of proximity, not intense interest.

Suburban Rhythm

09-26-2013, 11:17 AM

Apologizes if this is a repeat, but on the MLB Net video

Video: MIL@ATL: Benches clear after Gomez's solo home run | MLB.com (http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=30934665&topic_id=8878756&c_id=mlb)

#7 Johnson (Reed Johnson?) is about the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Charging at 3:18 of the video...then magically "you're lucky Terry Pendelton is somehow holding me back!!".

:lol: :lol: :lol:

panerd

09-26-2013, 11:18 AM

It seems like since Tony LaRussa left the Cardinals that they haven't been the self-anointed "Keepers of the Unwritten Rules of Baseball" so I guess the Braves are trying to fill that role.

Maybe the Cards and Braves pick up a lot of these rules during postseason play so that would be why you and MBBF are not familiar with them. :hand:

lungs

09-26-2013, 11:24 AM

Maybe the Cards and Braves pick up a lot of these rules during postseason play so that would be why you and MBBF are not familiar with them. :hand:

Well, I have gotten myself acquainted with postseason play two of the last six years at least. I just figure LaRussa is a douche bag and Mike Matheny is not.

spleen1015

09-26-2013, 11:30 AM

Only three teams have allowed fewer HR's than the Braves, so this isn't a problem for them.

But yet the Braves are always involved in these incidents.

larrymcg421

09-26-2013, 11:32 AM

But yet the Braves are always involved in these incidents.

Three times = always. Good to know.

spleen1015

09-26-2013, 11:32 AM

I find it funny too that someone is wishing that Gomez gets killed at the plate because he admired his HR against someone who he obviously had developed a rivalry with.

Seriously, you want the dude dead because of it? It is not like he drinks and drives or takes drugs or beats his wife or tries to cover up his PED use. No, he just shows up the pitcher who has hit him in the past and you want him dead?

Par for the course, I guess, but damn dude. It is just a baseball game. :D

spleen1015

09-26-2013, 11:33 AM

Three times = always. Good to know.

Well, the 3 times I remember a team being butt hurt over someone admiring a HR it has been the Braves, so, yeah always.

lungs

09-26-2013, 11:38 AM

Gomez admires fly balls to left field too.

sterlingice

09-26-2013, 12:36 PM

It seems like since Tony LaRussa left the Cardinals that they haven't been the self-anointed "Keepers of the Unwritten Rules of Baseball" so I guess the Braves are trying to fill that role.

:D

SI

chadritt

09-26-2013, 01:54 PM

Carlos Gomez Apologizes for Sparking Bench-Clearing Brawl, Calls His Actions ‘Unacceptable’ | MLB | NESN.com (http://nesn.com/2013/09/carlos-gomez-apologizes-for-sparking-bench-clearing-brawl-calls-his-actions-unacceptable/)

JonInMiddleGA

09-26-2013, 02:38 PM

MLB commissioner Bud Selig to retire after 2014 season - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9727367/mlb-commissioner-bud-selig-retire-2014-season)

ISiddiqui

09-26-2013, 05:24 PM

JEEZ LOUISE!!

Robinson Cano seeking 10-year, $305 million deal - ESPN New York (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9725806/robinson-cano-seeking-10-year-305-million-deal)

The gap between second baseman Robinson Cano and the New York Yankees on a new contract is enormous, with sources telling ESPN's Buster Olney that the soon-to-be free agent is seeking approximately $305 million over 10 years.

bhlloy

09-26-2013, 05:28 PM

I think the Angels could probably use a second baseman

/cries

MrBug708

09-26-2013, 06:24 PM

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3294543/carter.jpg

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3294583/gibson.jpg

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3294599/jordan.jpg

cuervo72

09-26-2013, 06:44 PM

We also need:

McCann in Tienanmen Square
McCann protecting Liston/standing up to Ali
McCann confronting Alan Ameche...

sterlingice

09-26-2013, 08:19 PM

JEEZ LOUISE!!

Robinson Cano seeking 10-year, $305 million deal - ESPN New York (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9725806/robinson-cano-seeking-10-year-305-million-deal)

MYSTERY TEAM!

SI

MrBug708

09-26-2013, 08:44 PM

Thankfully the Dodgers signed a 2B already

cartman

09-26-2013, 10:32 PM

SackAttack

09-26-2013, 10:39 PM

Thankfully the Dodgers signed a 2B already

If you're thinking of Guerrero, that fell apart and he changed agents. He's still unsigned.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-27-2013, 09:22 AM

Big congrats to Greg Holland. Last night, he passed two legendary Royals closers (Jeff Montgomery and Dan Quisenberry) to become the Royals single season save leader. He notched his 46th save and still has three more games to add to it.

Seeing this happen also really makes me miss Quiz. I was lucky enough to meet him on more than one occasion and he was a fantastic guy who died way too soon.

cartman

09-27-2013, 10:07 AM

As a follow on to last night's Angels-Rangers game, that was the 4th straight game in Arlington where the Rangers beat the Angels with a walk-off home run.

Chief Rum

09-27-2013, 10:36 AM

As a follow on to last night's Angels-Rangers game, that was the 4th straight game in Arlington where the Rangers beat the Angels with a walk-off home run.

You know, I had forgotten about that.

Thanks cartman.

:banghead:

BishopMVP

09-27-2013, 09:31 PM

FWIW, you can watch any game this weekend for free at mlb.tv Media Center | MLB.com: Multimedia (http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp?c_id=mlb&affiliateId=MINISB#date=9/27/2013)

Normal blackout rules still apply.

BishopMVP

09-27-2013, 09:36 PM

Walk off win for the Rangers, with Jurickson Profar going yard in the first AB of the bottom of the 9th. They overcome a FOUR error second inning.

They've gone 6-2 over the last 8 games, and yet still have lost 2 games to Cleveland and Tampa Bay in the WC race. Crazy stuff.Well, Tampa finally lost tonight, so if Texas can win it looks like 2 teams tied at 90-70 and the Rangers at 89-71.

Red Sox magic number down to 1 for homefield. Cardinals/Braves should be tied within the hour.

btw, Houston realizes they've locked up the #1 pick/IFA pool and can start trying again at any time, right?

tarcone

09-27-2013, 10:21 PM

Cardinals win their 7th division title in the last 14th year. Good stuff.
Now to get home field.

Thomkal

09-28-2013, 10:48 AM

Woohoo Cardinals!

MizzouRah

09-28-2013, 06:43 PM

Cardinals win their 7th division title in the last 14th year. Good stuff.
Now to get home field.

Oh yeah!

rowech

09-28-2013, 08:48 PM

I know I'm just an old man but why does a wild card game between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati have to start at 8:10? You cannot tell me the west coast will care that much that this game couldn't start at 7:10.

miami_fan

09-29-2013, 09:27 AM

PLAY THE F-----G GAME THE RIGHT WAY!:D

Terry Pendleton Roughed Up Chris Johnson For Sliding Into First Base (http://deadspin.com/terry-pendleton-roughed-up-chris-johnson-for-sliding-in-1419779112)

SackAttack

09-29-2013, 01:21 PM

Tampa jumping all over Toronto and Cleveland up to an early 2-0 lead.

No pressure, Texas.

spleen1015

09-29-2013, 01:24 PM

Wanna see Cleveland lose and Tampa and Texas win.

JonInMiddleGA

09-29-2013, 02:20 PM

PLAY THE F-----G GAME THE RIGHT WAY!:D

Terry Pendleton Roughed Up Chris Johnson For Sliding Into First Base (http://deadspin.com/terry-pendleton-roughed-up-chris-johnson-for-sliding-in-1419779112)

Actually it seems like TP got pissy (he's always been a bit of a cunt fwiw) because CJ threw his helmet into the dugout & it glanced off of Pendleton

And my opinion of Pendleton is based on direct personal experiences, not on rumor or hearsay (he became a regular at a bar I used to frequent back in my younger days).

SirFozzie

09-29-2013, 02:25 PM

Walkoff No Hitter on a Wild Pitch.. I can't think of any Walkoff No no's, never mind a walkoff wild pitch no hitter

frnk55

09-29-2013, 02:28 PM

Walkoff No Hitter on a Wild Pitch.. I can't think of any Walkoff No no's, never mind a walkoff wild pitch no hitter
That was really cool. Glad MLB.com had a breaking news banner so I caught the 9th inning. Crazy ending.

cuervo72

09-29-2013, 03:02 PM

Never cared for Pendlefuck (even back to his days with the Cards), but that was just based on watching him on TV.

JonInMiddleGA

09-29-2013, 04:25 PM

Never cared for Pendlefuck (even back to his days with the Cards), but that was just based on watching him on TV.

He's a considerably bigger prick in person (or at least was back in the 90s).

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-29-2013, 05:32 PM

Congrats to the Royals. Missed out on the playoffs, but had their highest win total in nearly 20 years. That's something to be excited about.

spleen1015

09-30-2013, 04:21 PM

cartman

09-30-2013, 04:23 PM

Were the Biogenesis suspensions a certain number of games or the regular season? I assume a certain number of games since Cruz in playing for Texas tonight. Tonight would still be considered the regular season, right?

The suspensions were for 50 games, and were given out prior to game 112. Since tonight is game 163, his suspension is over.

Honolulu_Blue

09-30-2013, 04:23 PM

SackAttack

09-30-2013, 06:04 PM

Were the Biogenesis suspensions a certain number of games or the regular season? I assume a certain number of games since Cruz in playing for Texas tonight. Tonight would still be considered the regular season, right?

50 games. Braun got more as a slap on the wrist for his prior sins. He also started his suspension sooner than the rest.

All of the suspensions, including Braun's, are over at this point.

Dutch

09-30-2013, 09:30 PM

Hmmmm....almost does look like the ball bounced into his glove...

Dutch

09-30-2013, 09:34 PM

...Rays were robbed of at least one run on that umpire misque. Hopefully it doesn't matter.

Dutch

09-30-2013, 09:56 PM

Super play by Price to glove the ball and pitch it to 1B.

Dutch

09-30-2013, 10:07 PM

The Legend of Sam Fuld only grows. :)

Dutch

09-30-2013, 10:21 PM

Good game for Price and the Rays! Now to beat the Indians, another team that hasn't lost in weeks.

(FWIW: The Rays, Indians, and Rangers combined for a 26-4 record the last 10 games of the season. That's how you finish.)

MizzouRah

10-01-2013, 08:58 AM

Way to go Rays!

EagleFan

10-01-2013, 07:42 PM

Cueto!

With that said... nice catch.

PilotMan

10-01-2013, 08:38 PM

God this is horrible. Reds picking up right where they left off in Cincy.

JPhillips

10-01-2013, 08:43 PM

On to waiting for the Bengals and Caps to disappoint.

Lathum

10-01-2013, 08:47 PM

feel bad for my friends who are Reds fans but excited to see the Pirates have success.

Vegas Vic

10-01-2013, 09:57 PM

For anyone seeking an apt description of "choke":

"See last six games of Cincinnati Reds' 2013 season".

EagleFan

10-01-2013, 10:08 PM

Pirates fans making stupid plays on back to back pitches. Good thing for them it wasn't a 1 run game. That guy in the outfield would have needed to move after the game if it had cost them.

Swaggs

10-01-2013, 10:30 PM

Woohoo!

SackAttack

10-01-2013, 10:31 PM

Welcome to the big boy playoffs, Pittsburgh. We've missed you.

MizzouRah

10-01-2013, 10:41 PM

Welcome to the big boy playoffs, Pittsburgh. We've missed you.

Not really.. :D

Should be quite a series vs the Cardinals!

The thing about the 2nd WC is that most teams pitch their #1.. should be an advantage for the Division winners.

korme

10-01-2013, 10:59 PM

Sigh.

SackAttack

10-01-2013, 11:39 PM

Not really.. :D

Should be quite a series vs the Cardinals!

The thing about the 2nd WC is that most teams pitch their #1.. should be an advantage for the Division winners.

You know what's weird? The Rays are in a better position, if they win the wild card game, than most wild card teams would be. The off days plus Price going in the tiebreaker means he'll conceivably be available twice in the ALDS on full rest.

BishopMVP

10-02-2013, 01:12 AM

You know what's weird? The Rays are in a better position, if they win the wild card game, than most wild card teams would be. The off days plus Price going in the tiebreaker means he'll conceivably be available twice in the ALDS on full rest.I know why Bud Selig etc are so desperate to put in the extra days in advance instead of potentially messing up the ALDS schedule, but competitively it would make much more sense to have the WC game the day after the season, and a day before the ALDS starts (and then bump it by a day in the rare cases of ties). As an added bonus, it'd probably also help avoid having World Series games in November.

In this case, I think Price is lined up for game 2 and potentially relief in game 5 on 3 days rest, but yeah.... go Indians.

cougarfreak

10-02-2013, 07:44 AM

In the end, the Reds were mental midgets. Just like their manager.

Lathum

10-02-2013, 07:50 AM

I hate the one game playoff.

Just doesnt seem right after 162 games a season decided by a one and done.

spleen1015

10-02-2013, 07:54 AM

Cincinnati cans can look at it like this. Without this 1 game WC game, you had no chance to get to the NLDS after the regular season. Last year, I would have had an issue had the A's beaten the Orioles in the WC game since the Orioles would have been the WC the old way.

It is cool to see the Pirates back in the playoffs.

Suburban Rhythm

10-02-2013, 08:20 AM

Dallas Latos, Wife Of Reds Pitcher Mat Latos, Says That A Pirates Fan Attacked Her At NL Wild Card Game (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/02/dallas-latos-pirates-fans-fight-twitter_n_4027353.html)

Dr. Sak

10-02-2013, 08:22 AM

Suburban Rhythm

10-02-2013, 08:29 AM

IT'S PITTSBURGH NOT PHILADELPHIA!!

Clint Hurdle should have grabbed a mic and given the crowd a Sam Wyche-esqe "You're in Pittsburgh...this isn't Philadelphia!"

spleen1015

10-02-2013, 08:30 AM

Maybe the offenders were Phillies fans at the Pirates game?

Dr. Sak

10-02-2013, 08:34 AM

Maybe the offenders were Phillies fans at the Pirates game?

I did see a man wearing a Phillies hat sitting next to Joe Morgan. :eek:

korme

10-02-2013, 09:28 AM

Great.

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Chief Rum

10-02-2013, 10:18 AM

I hate the one game playoff.

Just doesnt seem right after 162 games a season decided by a one and done.

Agreed. I would like that to go to a three game mini-series.

MizzouRah

10-02-2013, 08:25 PM

ISiddiqui

10-02-2013, 09:11 PM

I hate the one game playoff.

Just doesnt seem right after 162 games a season decided by a one and done.

It also doesn't seem right after 162 games, a team that finished 2nd in a division can knock off the team that finished 1st in that same division - so this is what we get due to the abomination which is the Wild Card.

Lathum

10-02-2013, 09:31 PM

It also doesn't seem right after 162 games, a team that finished 2nd in a division can knock off the team that finished 1st in that same division - so this is what we get due to the abomination which is the Wild Card.

Well the wild card is a necessity unless they go to 2 divisions. I don't have an issue with a 2nd place team beating a 1st place team in a longer series. A lot of times the division is separated by only a few games. Over 162 game season that could be because a key player was hurt, a couple bad calls, etc...

I hate this one and done where something fluky can happen that decides a season. Can't wait until there is a botched call in one of these games.

BishopMVP

10-02-2013, 09:40 PM

I hate the one game playoff.

Just doesnt seem right after 162 games a season decided by a one and done.I have no problem with it. Something needed to be done to devalue the WC berth and give extra credit to the division winners/#1 seed. I'd even be in favor of some of the "more radical" proposals where the #1 seed potentially had 4 or even all 5 ALDS games at home as their reward. Making it a 3 game vs. a 1-game series isn't really enhancing the odds of the other team winning (I think the stats geeks say you'd need something like a Best of 131 to truly decide with confidence between two teams who are relatively close to each other in the standings,) and playoff baseball already exacerbates the value of 1-2 dominant starters and your 2-3 best relievers instead of the depth you need over a 162 game season.

ISiddiqui

10-02-2013, 09:45 PM

Well the wild card is a necessity unless they go to 2 divisions. I don't have an issue with a 2nd place team beating a 1st place team in a longer series. A lot of times the division is separated by only a few games. Over 162 game season that could be because a key player was hurt, a couple bad calls, etc...

I hate this one and done where something fluky can happen that decides a season. Can't wait until there is a botched call in one of these games.

You realize that the playoffs are a crapshoot anyways. Even a 7 game series can't show the results of a 162 game season - fluky plays happen which can decide a series. And if it helps, think of the WC game as a Game 7 ;).