Player Development Dice Rolls

[aston217]

So as we know, some players progress really fast over the course of a season, jumping points every week and overshooting what their original potential pegged them as.

Others turn red early, promptly lose all their green & potential.

Some of this could be predestined and there's probably a lot of dice rolls that go into it.

That said, has anyone had a case of bad dice similar to this?:

-2nd year WR, 62/69 before TC
-Excellent OC in every category
-WR mentor on team
-12 of 15 games started (3 out due to injury)

Still 62/69. TC, some preseason time, all that playing time, a mentor, and a great coach have done nothing for this guy, who is a creeper that popped in rookie camp and his first offseason. He's at light orange (8/10 experience level) currently. I'm scratching my head here wondering what's it gonna take for this guy to gain some OVR.

[TheFoosballWizard]

Low intelligence maybe? I think I remember reading that it effects player development.

[Nemesis]

My CyFL QB is similar to this. He just can't get over that hump to get full exp.

[scorp]

Had a QB on a team I took over in NAFL QB vet 108 starts, was a positional experience D I use the letters think that's yellow. After 108 starts that should be impossible.

[bomber33bomber]

Lester in cyfl?

[aston217]

yea, Lester.

He does have 17 intel.

[aston217]

Another TC come and gone, nada. He's 65/71, because he unmasked some in the offseason.

[aston217]

Sort of interesting.


2029: Rookie year, 106 targets, 65 catches, 1023 yards, 9 TD (9.65 YPT)
2030: Sophomore year, 122 targets, 79 rec, 944 yards, 12 TD (7.74 YPT)

During the 2030 regular season, as a 62/69 player, Lester's demands were $51.83M, 4 years (13.58 bonus, 1.66 year 1 salary).

Player demands do not change after TC runs except due to things like developing ratings and attitude. That is, injury status and their current year stats don't play into it.

The 2031 preseason just began, and Lester's demands, as a 65/71 player, are now just $43.65M, 4 years (14.06 bonus, 1.54 year 1 salary).

That's a pretty heavy drop in leverage for a guy who really had quite a productive season. Maybe this gives a clue as to what will inflate a player's salary demands the most ... YPT looks like a significant factor, and it's interesting that it outweighs the TDs and receptions by so much.

[Disturbed]

I typically never resign guys until after TC has run. It has always seemed to me that their contract demands drop after TC.

[aston217]

I wonder why that is? I usually approach it as "If this is a young guy who is developing, he's likely to raise demands. If it's an old guy, better wait, he might take an age drop."

[MIJB#19]

Threadjacking for a bit:

I have a DT in his 4th year. He had a good combine and I picked him in the first round. I was stubborn in contract negotiations and he didn't sign until halfway into the pre-season. He was a day 1 starter and has been an all downs type of player for us. He went to Summer League in year 2 in an attempt to turn his still very green bars into red. His first two seasons he had a mentor and all years the Def.Coord. was VG or EXE in DL and EXE in young players. Here's how his progress went.
yr1 tc 36/53 -> 36/57 (no ch./+4, unsigned)
yr1 sn. -> 47/57 (+11/no ch.)
yr2 tc 48/59 -> 47/58 (-1/-1)
yr2 sn. 47/58 -> 47/58 (no ch.)
yr3 tc 49/60 -> 53/66 (+4/+6, volatility?)
yr3 sn. 53/66 -> 53/66 (no ch.)
yr4 tc 55/67 -> 55/67 (no ch.)

Little to no improvement in his training camps, despite being roughly 70-79% developed at the moment. One camp with a decent boost, possibly by volatility and around it two camps of no progress in current skill. One season with a decent improvement in skills and then two seasons of zero improvement, despite good to very good surrounding situations.

At times I actually wonder whether the summer league sending was a curse and actually stalled his progress. :D

[aston217]

That's pretty much exactly relevant to this thread MIJB! I guess he has low intelligence too. Wonder how he ends up when he maxes out.

My WR here's still in stasis.

[MIJB#19]

That's pretty much exactly relevant to this thread MIJB! I guess he has low intelligence too. Wonder how he ends up when he maxes out.The DT that I described is a 79 in intelligence.

[MIJB#19]

yr1 tc 36/53 -> 36/57 (no ch./+4, unsigned)
yr1 sn. -> 47/57 (+11/no ch.)
yr2 tc 48/59 -> 47/58 (-1/-1)
yr2 sn. 47/58 -> 47/58 (no ch.)
yr3 tc 49/60 -> 53/66 (+4/+6, volatility?)
yr3 sn. 53/66 -> 53/66 (no ch.)
yr4 tc 55/67 -> 55/67 (no ch.)yr4 sn. 55/67 -> 55/67 (no ch.)

At least this player had a all pro kind of season, but the lack of development is enigmatic. :D

[aston217]

It doesn't make sense to me that a player would just get such bad dice rolls on development for so long. So I'm guessing these two players have already maxed out their development, but our own scouts are in error in ascribing a lot of extra FUT to them.

[MIJB#19]

yr1 tc 36/53 -> 36/57 (no ch./+4, unsigned)
yr1 sn. -> 47/57 (+11/no ch.)
yr2 tc 48/59 -> 47/58 (-1/-1)
yr2 sn. 47/58 -> 47/58 (no ch.)
yr3 tc 49/60 -> 53/66 (+4/+6, volatility?)
yr3 sn. 53/66 -> 53/66 (no ch.)
yr4 tc 55/67 -> 55/67 (no ch.)
yr4 sn. 55/67 -> 55/67 (no ch.)
Start of yr5, things have drastically changed, the 'green' is all gone, this player is now scouted 55/55.

[Nemesis]

Start of yr5, things have drastically changed, the 'green' is all gone, this player is now scouted 55/55.

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ccfl/ben/playercard.php?playerid=5685