Fantasy Football Keeper discussion

[Qwikshot]

So, it's almost that time again and I'm in year 2 of a keeper league. First year was not so good and I found myself in 2nd to last place, but on the bright side, I became a seller of RG3 and managed to nab 3 draft picks in the first four rounds (losing my 6th round pick - keepers are the 1st three rounds).

I cannot keep three WRs due to keeper rules.

So I was going over the keeper process and had a sinking feeling...the team prior to me has Adrian Peterson, Witten and a scrub receiver to keep, but gets first overall pick. In my tunnel-vision I believed that he would go after Drew Brees his QB last season (our QBs get 6 pts per TD, and points per yardage), but now I have the sinking feeling he'll be selecting Jamaal Charles.

I initially was going to keep Cam Newton, Percy Harvin and Randall Cobb and go heavy on runningbacks, but now, I think I should keep Julio Jones (at the expense of Newton, as you can only keep 1 of your 1st three picks from the season prior), Cobb or Harvin (still unsure of this) and my only other eligible player is TE Antonio Gates. Now I think the TE is deep but Gates would be okay.

This way if the team prior to me drafts Charles, I get Brees without being stuck with Newton, if he drafts Brees, I get Charles and grab a QB later (there will be some good QBs eligible for draft - I think Rogers, Luck, RG3, Matt Ryan are a few of those that are being kept).

Does this sound that a good plan, with two fourth round picks, two fifth round picks and a high 7th round pick, I should be able to adjust.

So again:

Option 1:Newton QB Cobb WR Harvin WR
Option 2:Julio Jones WR Cobb or Harvin WR Gates TE
Thanks

[Danny]

Super Easy decision, newton, Cobb and harvin. Gates is only a name now, he is just about useless (I'd rank him 13-16 among tight ends, which is almost worthless as a keeper.

[Qwikshot]

Super Easy decision, newton, Cobb and harvin. Gates is only a name now, he is just about useless (I'd rank him 13-16 among tight ends, which is almost worthless as a keeper.

True, but would Brees be a better upgrade over Newton, if the 1st pick team selects Charles instead? Wouldn't Jones be an upgrade over Cobb and Harvin enough? TE would be deep enough to grab someone later?

Thanks for responding though...I know it seems easy but I would hate to lose Brees because I already have Newton. And I wouldn't draft both, after Charles you would have Richardson, Gore, Wilson, and a bunch of rookies.

[Qwikshot]

I'd drop Newton. In that scenario, you win with either Brees or Charles. Gates is average, but he's no worse than any other TE you'd get.

I think you having the 2nd overall pick makes this more about maximizing the value of the pick, instead of minimizing the losses due to keeper rules.

That's my thought, I realized that the owner picking before me may actually realize Charles might be a better value than Brees, Brees would trump Newton but I'd already have Newton and thus now I've weakened my receiver corp (not by much, but still) by losing Jones (unless I burn a pick trying to get him).

The QB keepers that I'm surmising will stay with their teams:

Andrew Luck
RG3
Aaron Rogers
Matt Ryan
Tom Brady

(note: this is all speculative but some of it is process from elimination - any player dropped in waivers during the season is not eligible to keep)

Runningbacks I think will be kept:

Ray Rice
Arian Foster
LeSean McCoy
Adrian Peterson
CJ Spiller
Doug Martin
Marshawn Lynch
Darren Sproles
Reggie Bush
Steve Ridley
Ben Tate

Wide Receivers kept:

Calvin Johnson
Julio Jones (now)
Hakim Nicks
Percy Harvin (possible)
Victor Cruz
Dwayne Bowe
Wes Welker
AJ Green
Dez Bryant
Jordy Nelson
Stevie Johnson

TE:

Jimmy Graham
Antoinio Gates (for now)
Jason Witten

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TE had Jimmy Graham as points leader with 144, Gates had 89, there were 12 players in between (point difference is 55 points)
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QB had Drew Brees leading the league with 423 points, 6th place was where Cam Newton was at 347 (point difference is 76 points)
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WR had Calvin Johnson leading the league with 214 points, 9th was Julio Jones at 173, Randall Cobb had 150, and Percy Harvin before he was injured was lighting things up and finished with 99 points
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Runningbacks left if Charles is selected are:
Alfred Morris - all run, no receving
Frank Gore - old but really good offense and O-line
Trent Richardson - I don't like this guy, Browns look trendy but I think will fail
Matt Forte - serviceable but won't carry a team
Chris Johnson - better o-line but I bet same disappointing performance
Steven Jackson - worth a pick, but not sure as my 1st pick
DeMarco Murray - gimpy
Ryan Matthews - bust
Lamar Miller - unproven
Le'von Bell - rookie I would take a flyer on
Montee Ball - rookie I would take a flyer on but sounds like dreaded RBBC in Denver
David Wilson - Had him, dropped him, would have kept him if he performed like his last game
Darren McFadden - meh
MJD - gimpy and a terrible team
Eddie Lacy - worth a flyer
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It thins out after Charles...I hope the 1st pick owner takes Brees, but at least if he takes Charles I'll have a solid QB-WR-WR foundation (I think I'll take Cobb because of Harvin's injury woes may have teams beg off of him)

Maybe I overthink, but if he takes Brees, then I get Charles and I can see about reacquiring Cam, but there will be depth at QB, with 2 4th round picks, 2 5th round picks, and a high 7th, I should be able to have depth (I will probably charge on runningbacks, they'll fly off the shelf).

Thanks for all the input...

[Julio Riddols]

I'd totally dump Newton for Brees. Cam Newton is the Chris Johnson of QB's. Brees is consistently throwing for boatloads of yards and TD's, even with a few picks here and there. You can almost always count on Brees putting up big numbers. Fantasy football teams that are consistent will almost always beat teams full of guys who are hit or miss week to week.

[Julio Riddols]

Also - Keeping Gates makes no sense at all to me. I wouldn't touch him unless he went undrafted. He was healthy most of last season for a change and still put up totally pedestrian numbers. You'd probably be better served with almost any other starting TE. This is just my opinion though. I haven't seen Gates as draftable for a few seasons now.

[Julio Riddols]

Jared Cook in St. Louis seems like an excellent darkhorse TE this year.

[Qwikshot]

Also - Keeping Gates makes no sense at all to me. I wouldn't touch him unless he went undrafted. He was healthy most of last season for a change and still put up totally pedestrian numbers. You'd probably be better served with almost any other starting TE. This is just my opinion though. I haven't seen Gates as draftable for a few seasons now.

Gates is the only other player I can keep:

1)Can only keep one player from 1st three rounds (Cam Newton, Chris Johnson, Julio Jones)
2)Cannot keep more than 3 players at the same postion
3)Cannot keep anyone that was on the waiver wire at any point in the season

My eligible players are Cam Newton (1-3), Julio Jones (1-3) Percy Harvin (drafted in 4th round - traded to me), Randall Cobb (11th round), Antonio Gates (14th round)

Gates is a warm body, but keeping him allows me to keep Julio Jones and either Harvin or Cobb. If I keep Cam, I lose Julio but keep Harvin and Cobb.

Sorry if that wasn't clear, I can always drop Gates later, but it would be better to keep him as a warm body than burn a draft pick on another TE. I mean I could always forfeit one of my keeper picks but that would seem unwise.

[Qwikshot]

Jared Cook in St. Louis seems like an excellent darkhorse TE this year.

I like him...there are a lot of sleepers this year.

[Qwikshot]

It seems pretty clear that if you don't get Charles or Brees, you're going to feel screwed. If you keep Newton, you're risking that scenario.

I'd just dump Newton and eliminate any chance of feeling screwed by the draft. That's the worst feeling to go into a season with.

Yeah...it looks that way...I'm just glad I didn't have tunnel vision until the draft.

[Julio Riddols]

I like him...there are a lot of sleepers this year.

Yeah, I agree. I think it is a position this year where the bottom 15 of the top 20 are going to be almost interchangeable. Unless you can get Graham, Gonzalez, Witten, Olsen or V.Davis, I feel like you could put the next 15 names in a hat and do just fine. I'd almost swap Rudolph for Davis in that top 5, but I don't know if the Vikes will be able to pass the ball at all.

[Travis]

Are you in a roster freeze at this point or any chance you could trade one of Newton/Jones/Harvin for a RB to then use as a keeper?

[Travis]

If your choice is essentially Newton/Harvin vs Jones/Gates, what about going Newton/Harvin and still taking whichever of Brees/Charles falls to you? Obviously you'd prefer Charles, but if you end up with Brees, while expensive, you've got great strength at two positions then and can leverage a trade later on. Sounds like you've got a good stock pile of picks so you can still go RB heavy afterwards and hope to hit. Personally I value points vs replacement and Gates doesn't do that for you at all. You know your league better than any of us do, but the fall off from Jones to Harvin/Cobb isn't nearly the same as Newton to Gates in QB heavy scoring.

Riskier strategy but if you have any confidence that you can work that trade out later.

I'd also suggest giving Forte another look. The new offense they're talking about there could really revitalize him, especially with his involvement in the passing game. There's a lot of talent in the available RB list you posted.

Edit: Sorry, on the go and posting while traveling between appointments. Given the list you posted, even if you're not sold on him, Richardson is another draft and trade type. Find out what owner likes him and see what sort of upgrade you can work out. Personally I'd probably go Charles Richardson as my shortlist at your spot.

Newton-Richardson-Harvin-Cobb or Brees-Jones-Harvin/Cobb-Gates, I'll take the first option and that's your worst case scenario keeping those guys.

[Qwikshot]

Are you in a roster freeze at this point or any chance you could trade one of Newton/Jones/Harvin for a RB to then use as a keeper?

Roster freeze I would only be able to move a keeper for a keeper, I don't know if anyone would move any of those players for draft picks...and I'd be down a player.

[Qwikshot]

If your choice is essentially Newton/Harvin vs Jones/Gates, what about going Newton/Harvin and still taking whichever of Brees/Charles falls to you? Obviously you'd prefer Charles, but if you end up with Brees, while expensive, you've got great strength at two positions then and can leverage a trade later on. Sounds like you've got a good stock pile of picks so you can still go RB heavy afterwards and hope to hit. Personally I value points vs replacement and Gates doesn't do that for you at all. You know your league better than any of us do, but the fall off from Jones to Harvin/Cobb isn't nearly the same as Newton to Gates in QB heavy scoring.

Riskier strategy but if you have any confidence that you can work that trade out later.

I'd also suggest giving Forte another look. The new offense they're talking about there could really revitalize him, especially with his involvement in the passing game. There's a lot of talent in the available RB list you posted.

I will, worse comes to worse I get Alfred Morris and either Forte or Jackson or somebody warm...

Not so amenable for Cam Newton trading...I had Cam on the trade block all last season...owners wanted RG3. Better to get an upgrade and burn a pick on a suitable backup...I like Kapernick.

[Danny]

True, but would Brees be a better upgrade over Newton, if the 1st pick team selects Charles instead? Wouldn't Jones be an upgrade over Cobb and Harvin enough? TE would be deep enough to grab someone later?

Thanks for responding though...I know it seems easy but I would hate to lose Brees because I already have Newton. And I wouldn't draft both, after Charles you would have Richardson, Gore, Wilson, and a bunch of rookies.

Gates is a TE2, he has 0 value. Literally, he has negative VBD value, so it's as if you are keeping only two players.

Newton, Harvin, Cobb and whoever you get at #2 will be better than Brees, Cobb, jones and gates. In fact id much rather have Brees, newton, Cobb and harvin than Brees, jones, Cobb and gates.

Also, at the risk of bragging, I have played 8 seasons overall of money leagues that costed $100-$250 and had 12-14 teams. I have 3 championships, 3 second place finishes and 2 times missed the playoffs, primarily due to season ending injuries to two of my three best players both times. VBD is the way to go and VBD says newton, Cobb and harvin is the way to go

[Danny]

Oh looking at the list, forget brees. Keep newton, Cobb and harvin and then take whichever of Charles or Richardson is there.

And if you go against my keeper advice, I would still advise to take charles or Richardson over Brees.

[Qwikshot]

Oh looking at the list, forget brees. Keep newton, Cobb and harvin and then take whichever of Charles or Richardson is there.

And if you go against my keeper advice, I would still advise to take charles or Richardson over Brees.

I love the responses but I think perspective-wise, I think Julio is way more an upgrade over Harvin and Cobb (I'm leaning towards Cobb, Harvin has had his injuries, and I may see if he drops and redraft- let's face it, it'll be a run on runningbacks).

Brees>Newton - factor in that Cam still has a crappy receiver corp and unknown runningback situations; Brees gets Sean Payton back and has a monster offense.

I kow what you mean about Gates, the only other player I can keep is Willis McGahee who I think is a stretch. Gates had 12 TEs better than him, but I know TE is deep and can manage to grab another TE late (bye week coverage).

I just think when you factor things, Brees is an upgrade and Julio Jones has massive value, and Cobb or Harvin is a great #2. I have another pick in the round and then start gunning for RBs...

NOW, if Jamaal Charles is available, he's mine...I won't have a QB, but there will be a bunch available, I may just run the table the 1st two rounds and grab runningbacks (I love acquiring runningbacks).

That all being said, I appreciate the insight...I know the safe pick is Cam, Harvin, Cobb, it's a solid foundation, but Cam didn't do well last season until late, Brees is consistent day-in, day-out. I hated last season going back and forth with RG3 and Newton.

I don't want to hog all the advice, anyone that wants insight on their team feel free to ask their own questions.

I'm getting excited for the season to start.

[Travis]

I get what you're saying, but I have a very hard time agreeing that the difference between Jones and Harvin/Cobb is bigger than keeping one of your other options over Gates.

You've basically got two lineups to choose from. You could have one of the following lineups to build off after the #2 pick:

Newton - Charles/Richardson - Harvin - Cobb
Brees/Charles - Jones - Cobb - Gates

I'm taking option 1 every time.

[Danny]

I get what you're saying, but I have a very hard time agreeing that the difference between Jones and Harvin/Cobb is bigger than keeping one of your other options over Gates.

You've basically got two lineups to choose from. You could have one of the following lineups to build off after the #2 pick:

Newton - Charles/Richardson - Harvin - Cobb
Brees/Charles - Jones - Cobb - Gates

I'm taking option 1 every time.

He's not, this is why it's better to use data instead of a subjective view. Statistically based on average projections the difference between jones and harvin is less than between newton and gates. Putting Brees in there is not valid cause its Brees instead of someone else you could take. There is no way I would take Brees over Trent Richardson, especially with you having no rb.

[Qwikshot]

I'm not saying no to Newton-Cobb-Harvin...I just realized though that the owner who picks first may opt for J Charles, leaving Brees out...

If it were me, I'd grab Charles to compliment AP, the owner has Hakim Nicks and Brandon LaFell as his two other keepers...I could see him grabbing Brees again, because that's his QB, but if I were in his position, I'd take Charles.

If I choose to forgo Brees, then I take Richardson or Alfred Morris. I also have another draft pick in this round. I know there will be a run on runningback, so grabbing 3 in the first two rounds should offset issues...I love using my flex spot for a runningback.

I appreciate the discussion and insight.

[Flasch186]

What are the thought on Amendola in a PPR league? his salary is $5 out of $200 to spend on players.

[Danny]

Definitely worth 5 bucks

[Qwikshot]

What are the thought on Amendola in a PPR league? his salary is $5 out of $200 to spend on players.

5 bucks, sure...

[Qwikshot]

After reading more of this discussion and seeing more of what your options might be, I think I agree that you might be better off keeping Newton and rolling the dice on Charles.

If you lose out and your consolation prize is Richardson, that's not so bad.

Yeah...

I figured it would go like this:

Worse case
Owner 1: Charles (will probably keep AP, Nicks, Witten)
Me: Richardson (will probably keep Newton, Cobb, Harvin)
Owner 3: A Morris (will probably keep McCoy, Cruz, Vernon Davis)
Owner 4: S Jax (Spiller, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson)
Owner 5: MJD (Arian Foster, Dez Bryant, Andrew Luck)
Owner 6: Forte (Rodgers, Gore, Bowe)
Owner 7: Brees (Doug Martin, Steven Ridley, Jimmy Graham)
Me (I have Owner 8's first two picks): Chris Johnson (ARRRGHHH)
Owner 9: Julio Jones or Brandon Marshall (Rice, Welker, Matt Ryan)
Owner 10: Julio Jones or Brandon Marshall (AJ Green, Brady, Sproles)

Now I know Owner 10 should probably grab an RB, but there is a drop after Chris Johnson (Berry ranks him 18th overall, 16th runningback, next available is DeMarco Murray at 35th overall, perhaps, 10 grabs him on the swingback)

Best Case:
Owner 1: Brees
me: Charles
Owner 3: Richarson
Owner 4: Morris
Owner 5: SJax
Owner 6: MJD
Owner 7: Brees - with Doug Martin and Steven Ridley, it seems a no brainer to grab Brees and compliment with Jimmy Graham
Owner 8: (me again): Forte
Owner 9: Chris Johnson
Owner 10: Julio Jones/Brandon Marshall
Owner 10: DeMarco Murray
Owner 9: Julio Jones/ Brandon Marshall (whatever is left)
Owner 8 (me again): David Wilson/Montee Ball/Lamar Miller/Le'Vonn Bell
-yes I will reach, I think Wilson has the best prospects, Ball may be a RBBC, I like Bell better, critics like Miller but I have yet to see anything big on him

By the time it rolls back, I may pick another running back, and I have two MORE picks in the following round...perhaps Gronkowski?!? Then I'm down a round, but then I'll see if there are more backs or finally line up a receiver (really like the Rams rookie Tavon Austin, but I'm betting Larry Fitzgerald will still be around)

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'm in the keep Cam Newton boat, despite the fact that I also agree with you that he's not going to be all that great moving forward.

Thread jacking a little, how about keeper LEAGUE discussion? I'm trying to talk my college buddies into converting our league (now in its 10th year) to a keeper league. Thoughts on the best implementation? I like the idea of few keepers (3 or less) with an associated 'penalty' for keeping them, allowing people to choose to use fewer keepers as a legitimate strategy (and softening the blow for a crappy team with an old keeper who retires/gets sucky).

[Qwikshot]

I'm in the keep Cam Newton boat, despite the fact that I also agree with you that he's not going to be all that great moving forward.

Thread jacking a little, how about keeper LEAGUE discussion? I'm trying to talk my college buddies into converting our league (now in its 10th year) to a keeper league. Thoughts on the best implementation? I like the idea of few keepers (3 or less) with an associated 'penalty' for keeping them, allowing people to choose to use fewer keepers as a legitimate strategy (and softening the blow for a crappy team with an old keeper who retires/gets sucky).

Vince, our league keeps it simple...you get to keep one of your 1st 3 draft picks and then any two from round four onwards, you cannot keep more than 2 players at the same position (no RB, RB, RB), you cannot keep any player that was on the waiver wire, only drafted players that stayed on a team (you can keep a player that was drafted and traded to another team long as that team keeps them on their roster the whole season).

I suppose you could forfeit a keeper and get compensation for the round they were drafted, but I think the key thing to a keeper league is keeping a player, I go into this league know 3 players must be kept and by the end of the draft I know which players I'll keep all season unless I trade for a player (Harvin was a round 4 player I traded for, knowing I'd be able to keep him for the following season should I want to)

After three years, the league resets, all keepers go back into the pool and we start anew, that way, there are no overpowered teams, it also makes year 3 a free for all with trades because nothing carries over save draft picks (yahoo league)

[Qwikshot]

I'm in the keep Cam Newton boat, despite the fact that I also agree with you that he's not going to be all that great moving forward.

Thread jacking a little, how about keeper LEAGUE discussion? I'm trying to talk my college buddies into converting our league (now in its 10th year) to a keeper league. Thoughts on the best implementation? I like the idea of few keepers (3 or less) with an associated 'penalty' for keeping them, allowing people to choose to use fewer keepers as a legitimate strategy (and softening the blow for a crappy team with an old keeper who retires/gets sucky).

I will probably take a flier on Kaepernick.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Thanks for the explanation, Qwik. I'm really just looking into what kinds of keeper leagues are out there, as I have very little experience with them.

[Danny]

I will probably take a flier on Kaepernick.

You guys are crazy. While i almost Always wait in drafts for a qb, Newton is a fantasy stud. Even last year in 6 pt passomg td leagues he was the 7th best fantasy QB and the year before he was 5th. In 4 pt td leagues he was 4th each of last two years

[Qwikshot]

You guys are crazy. While i almost Always wait in drafts for a qb, Newton is a fantasy stud. Even last year in 6 pt passomg td leagues he was the 7th best fantasy QB and the year before he was 5th. In 4 pt td leagues he was 4th each of last two years

I didn't mean in the first few rounds...I did the same thing last year grabbing RG3 in like the 13th round and was able to move him for draft picks later when the team was lost.

Newton is talented, but he's also on a terrible team, he's got a year older Steve Smith and a maligned running game (hence his goal line ability), sooner or later that stuff causes injury and poor performance...

Going with Newton, keeping Harvin and Cobb, I'll probably go crazy on running backs..

[Vince, Pt. II]

You guys are crazy. While i almost Always wait in drafts for a qb, Newton is a fantasy stud. Even last year in 6 pt passomg td leagues he was the 7th best fantasy QB and the year before he was 5th. In 4 pt td leagues he was 4th each of last two years

Most leagues are 10 team, right? If you have the 7th best QB you're worse than most.

[Qwikshot]

Most leagues are 10 team, right? If you have the 7th best QB you're worse than most.

Cam Newton sucked early in 2012, cost me a few games while RG3 lit things up. I play in a Head to Head league.

[JAG]

Most leagues are 10 team, right? If you have the 7th best QB you're worse than most.

But at least you're keeping a starting caliber QB, even if he ends up as your backup, rather than a backup TE.

[Travis]

And if memory serves, depending on scoring, he was a top 5 QB over the second half of last season. I didn't have any shares in him but I seem to recall him and Wilson both putting up big fantasy numbers over the last 8ish games.

[TLK]

QB seems deeper than ever. I'm fine with 1-13 being my starting QB with a slight edge to Brees & Rodgers. At least going into the draft, I'm not even worried about the QB position.

[Vince, Pt. II]

But at least you're keeping a starting caliber QB, even if he ends up as your backup, rather than a backup TE.

The choice there is Cam or Jones, since he can only keep one of his top three picks.

[Danny]

No it's not, the choice is cam and harvin or jones and gates

[Qwikshot]

Just reading up on some more of the details and I had a thought...

What about this:
- Cut Newton and take Brees/Charles with the #2
- Just let Gates go away, or keep him if you have the free roster spots
- Keep Jones and the better of Harvin/Cobb
- POSSIBLY REDRAFT the other of Harvin/Cobb with your 2nd or 3rd round pick

According to the players that were listed as being available in the draft, it looks like there's a real possibility that whoever you release from Harvin/Cobb will probably be there early into the 3rd round.

I think then that it doesn't matter if I keep Gates, perhaps he is negative value, perhaps he gets ~ 7 tds, perhaps I just cut him after the 1st week.

Truth be told, I'll probably do Newton, Harvin, Cobb...there is a good possibility that Julio may be around when I pick next (I have 2, 8, 13, 19 and 33 in the 1st 4 rounds)
but I'll probably focus on runningbacks

I would love Charles to fall to me, I really hope the owner decides that Brees is too valuable to lose, but I suspect he'll grow a brain and realize that Charles/AP is too strong a tandem.

Most roto sites have Julio as a bigger factor than Harvin and Cobb, the possibility of having Julio, a top three WR, with Brees a top three QB would be very tempting...and should Brees be selected over Charles, I got Julio, Charles, Cobb/Harvin and a scrub at TE, that's a hell of a core. Brees should be more consistent than Newton but Newton has red zone rush potential and those TDs add up.

Do I consider Brees better than Newton, yes...would I draft Brees if I had Newton, no.

I just think I was overthinking, you keep the strongest team, either option would allow me not to worry about WR for a few rounds.

Newton, Cobb, Harvin, Richardson?
Julio, Harvin OR Cobb, Brees, Gates?

If I choose Brees, I would lose out on the following running backs assuming Charles was picked prior to me:

Richardson at 3
Morris at 4
SJax at 5
MJD at 6
Forte at 7
Leaving me Chris Johnson at 8 (have this draft pick) - I have owned Chris Johnson I'm not sure Chance Warmack revitalizes him...or DeMarco Murray who is talented and injury prone...if I don't like them, Matt Berry has the next RB slated as David Wilson WAYYYYYY down at 47th overall.

Gronk would be available, but he's so damn injury prone and would make keeping Gates stupid (as if it wasn't already)

Now...if I keep Newton, Harvin, Cobb assuming Charles is taken

I would get Richardson at 2
Morris at 3
SJAX at 4
MJD at 5
Forte at 6
Chris Johnson at 7
AT 8, I could redraft Julio, I could risk on Gronk, I could take a long look at Brandon Marshall (assuming the owner doesn't keep him instead of Jimmy Graham or Matt Stafford), if he drops Jimmy Graham, I'm all over that at 8
Or I could reach for Wilson/Ball/Bell/Lamar Miller and then on the swingback grab another RB or two (I have two more picks before being shut out in the 6th round and then an early pick in the 7th)

It just seems after that, the case is for Newton/Harvin/Cobb doesn't it?

[Danny]

Qwik, even if you don't keep newton, Richardson is the way to go over Brees abc then pick up a qb later. You need a rb at #2

Also what is your lineup requirement and is this ppr?

[Qwikshot]

Qwik, even if you don't keep newton, Richardson is the way to go over Brees abc then pick up a qb later. You need a rb at #2

Also what is your lineup requirement and is this ppr?

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
TE
flex (RB/WR)
K
ST

Yeah...it makes ALOT more sense to forgo Brees...though I think he won't get past the 7th spot owner which means I may be able to get Forte.

Newton Harvin Cobb Richardson Forte is a nasty force.

[Danny]

Wow since you can start 3 rb that makes them even more valuable than qbs than is typical

Regardless of keeper I would take at least 3 rb with your first 4 picks

[Danny]

Just to give some numbers, using your rosters and 6 pt for tds, Richardson is a + 95 and brees a +58

[Danny]

Newton is only a +16, jones a + 59 Cobb +44 and harvin + 40

What is your full roster of possible keepers out of curiosity?

[Danny]

And since yiu didn't answer is the league ppr at all?

[Qwikshot]

And since yiu didn't answer is the league ppr at all?

Sorry Yahoo Non-PPR league...QB get 6 points for throwing TDs 1 pt for 25 yards thrown

6 pts per TD, 1 pt per 10 yards REC/Rush

[Danny]

K, do you have any running backs on your roster?

[Qwikshot]

Newton is only a +16, jones a + 59 Cobb +44 and harvin + 40

What is your full roster of possible keepers out of curiosity?

Cam Newton Julio Jones Percy Harvin Randy Cobb Willis McGahee Antoinio Brown Antonio Gates are all keeper eligible but if I keep Julio I lose Newton, if I keep Newton I lose Jones...I cannot keep 3 WRs so one has to go.

[Qwikshot]

K, do you have any running backs on your roster?

None that are keeper eligible...I also have Larry Fitzgerald but he was a top three pick

My final running backs when I went into tank were:

Vince Ballard
LaMichael James
Daniel Thomas
Beanie Wells

[Danny]

K id stick with newton, harvin, and Cobb then

[Flipnosis]

Watch, you'll get Charles and make all of this discussion completely irrelevant. :)

[Flipnosis]

Out of pure curiosity, how did Charles get dropped?

[spleen1015]

I have to keep 10 from the list below.

Peyton Manning
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Arian Foster
Frank Gore
BenJarvis Green-Ellis
Willis McGahee
Dez Bryant
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Santana Moss
Domenik Hixon
Kevin Ogletree
Owen Daniels
Scott Chandler
Connor Barth

I think there are 8 easy ones.
Peyton Manning
Arian Foster
Frank Gore
BenJarvis Green-Ellis
Dez Bryant
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Owen Daniels

I am leaning Hixon and Ogletree. I don't know if it really matters though.

[JAG]

Ogletree is likely to be cut, so I wouldn't go with him.

[Danny]

I would keep none of them and I am serious. Yiu can get better guys off waivers after the draft.

[spleen1015]

I would keep none of them and I am serious. Yiu can get better guys off waivers after the draft.

That is my preference, but I have to keep 10. If I don't chose 10, 10 will be chosen for me.

I'll just keep whomever and cut them after week 1.

[Danny]

Ah yeah it doesn't much matter then, your group of 8 looks real good though

[TLK]

Looking to keep 2 of the 5 from this group. This is a deeper IDP dynasty and for every player I don't keep, I get an extra draft pick. The draft is pretty much non-keepers, left over free agents and rookies. As of now, I'm returning 7 players to the pool and if I give up 3 of these WR's... I'll have 10 picks in the draft. These guys will be 6 and 7 on my depth chart going into the draft, so this years production isn't that important. Anyone jump out of this group?

Criner, Juron OAK WR
Hawkins, Andrew CIN WR
Hixon, Domenik CAR WR
Morgan, Joseph NOS WR
Roberts, Andre ARI WR

[Julio Riddols]

Joseph Morgan. He could be a stud in short order. One of the biggest deep threats in the game from what I saw last year. I don't think anyone else from that group ever becomes fantasy relevant enough to cling to too tightly. Hawkins is probably the closest, but he is now kind of buried in a deep receiving corps.

[Qwikshot]

It appears that Harvin has a tear in the hip. Based on this I may have to revaluate my keeper process.

I'm just this is coming out now as opposed to later.

[Qwikshot]

It appears that Harvin has a tear in the hip. Based on this I may have to revaluate my keeper process.

I'm just this is coming out now as opposed to later.

Now, I have a few options:

Keep Julio Jones, Cobb and Antonio Gates (I know I know)

I could also

Keep Newton, Cobb and Antonio Brown (who I traded for and is keeper eligible)

I'm thinking though at this point, QB is deep...Julio and Cobb is a nice WR corp, go hard on runningback my 1st 3 picks and then look for what QB is still out there at my 4th pick (remember I have 4 picks in the 1st two rounds, then zero in the 3rd, then 1 high pick in the 4th)

[Danny]

I think I go with Cobb and jones now. The value downgrade from jones to brown is a lot bigger than to harvin

[TLK]

Joseph Morgan. He could be a stud in short order. One of the biggest deep threats in the game from what I saw last year. I don't think anyone else from that group ever becomes fantasy relevant enough to cling to too tightly. Hawkins is probably the closest, but he is now kind of buried in a deep receiving corps.

Unless something crazy happens in the next week... I'm going with Morgan and Criner. You talked me into Morgan.

[TLK]

I made a trade in my dynasty league yesterday. It's a .5 (rb)/1 ppr league. Any thoughts?

I traded:
QB Matthew Stafford
RB Mark Ingram
WR Hakeem Nicks
Pick 2.09 in this years draft

for

QB Joe Flacco
RB LeSean McCoy
WR Wes Welker

This leaves my offensive starting lineup as:
QB: Kaepernick
RB: McCoy and David Wilson
WR: Andre Johnson, Welker and Antonio Brown
TE: Graham

[Julio Riddols]

I think you got the good end of this deal.

[Julio Riddols]

Unless something crazy happens in the next week... I'm going with Morgan and Criner. You talked me into Morgan.

Its worth noting that he caught 10 balls last year. They went for 379 yards and 3 scores. I don't even care about sample size. Almost 40 yards per catch over 10 catches is just flat out nutty. He did all that on 21 targets, which suggests he is an incredible deep threat, IMO.

He's a dude I would stash and start in a pinch before looking to the FA wire. His BPR bar is huge.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Ok, my turn for the keeper league I'm in. Keep 6 guys, no penalties or restrictions. Standard lineup with no flex (QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/K/D - 4 pts per passing TD, 0.5 ppr); the only wonky thing is that there is a 4 add/drop maximum for the whole year. We draft a deep bench (12 bench slots), and you're pretty much stuck with them all year. I've got what I feel like are four pretty easy keepers with five options for the last two slots.

QB
Peyton Manning
Colin Kaepernick
Andy Dalton
Michael Vick

RB
Alfred Morris
Fred Jackson
Donald Brown
Andre Brown
Pierre Thomas
Deangelo Williams

WR
Roddy White
Mike Williams
Miles Austin
Titus Young

TE
Vernon Davis
Greg Olsen

K
Rian Lindell

D
San Francisco
Seattle

I'm thinking the easy keepers:
QB Manning
QB Kaepernick
RB Morris
WR White

And here are pretty much my only other options:
WR Austin
WR Williams
TE Davis
D SF
D SEA

I'd really like to package Manning with one of Austin/Williams for an RB, but I'm getting no love from my fellow managers (I'm the only 49er fan in the league and no one is very high on Kaepernick, so no taking advantage of the Kaepernick hype). Running on the assumption that I'm not able to make a move before locking in my keepers, what to do with the last two slots? Davis is intriguing because with Crabtree out (and Boldin to keep defenses honest) he should see a huge workload. Seattle and SF are arguably the two best defenses in the league, and while Austin and Williams are nice, neither are consistent enough to be top tier. Then again, either of them are good enough that they could take that next step this year. Decisions, decisions.

[Danny]

Definitely do not keep a defense. I would keep Davis for sure. Between the other two is a toss up, though I would say Austin has more upside

[Julio Riddols]

I think Austin and Davis would be the best bet. Dallas should be throwing it a lot this year and have a far more reliable QB, So Austin is a solid WR2 IMO. I don't yet know if I trust Mike Williams fully, and his QB is one of the most inconsistent in the league. Olsen and Davis are almost a toss up to me though. Olsen is Cam's favorite target behind the aging Steve Smith.

[Danny]

I have to disagree with Julio. Davis is the far superior pick this year. WIth Crabtree out, Davis is lining up primarily at WR in camp and should be the go to guy in the offense.

[Vince, Pt. II]

One of the 49ers beat writers is reporting that although Davis is talking like he's lining up at WR a lot, he's actually only done it a couple times and is mostly lining up as his usual TE. I still think he's a better pick than Olsen, though.

[Vince, Pt. II]

So it turns out we're down to 5 keepers this year, so the decision becomes pick one of the following:

WR Miles Austin
WR Mike Williams (TB)
TE Vernon Davis

With my other keepers being:
QB Manning (DEN)
QB Kaepernick
RB Morris
WR White

[Danny]

I definitely go with Davis. I think he goes back to his production level of a couple years ago. Williams is solid but lacks upside and Austin is brittle and will play second fiddle to Dez Bryant.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I definitely go with Davis. I think he goes back to his production level of a couple years ago. Williams is solid but lacks upside and Austin is brittle and will play second fiddle to Dez Bryant.

Yeah, I think that's gotta be the way.

[Julio Riddols]

Out of those 3, yeah Davis. Austin, if healthy, would be better. I don't put a lot of faith in S.F. being able to make much happen in the passing game with Davis as the only target though. He'll get more opportunities maybe, but I don't think they'll be better ones.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Anquan Boldin?

So I'm in trade talks with the #2 team in the league. His keeper situation (keep 5):

Brees
Foster
Charles
Calvin Johnson
Spiller
MJD

So he's basically choosing between Spiller and MJD. He initially floated Spiller, got quite a bit of interest, but then decided to keep him. Now he's trading MJD. I have the #1 overall pick and it's a non-serpentine draft (so I am the first pick in every round). What do I offer for MJD, knowing he's mine unless he's traded?

[Danny]

I wouldnt play games and probably offer your #2

[Neuqua]

10 team/.5PPR/1QB-3WR-2RB-1F start.

I can keep Trent Richardson and forfeit my 3rd Rd pick

or

Keep RG3 and forfeit my 11th Rd pick.

[Qwikshot]

10 team/.5PPR/1QB-3WR-2RB-1F start.

I can keep Trent Richardson and forfeit my 3rd Rd pick

or

Keep RG3 and forfeit my 11th Rd pick.

I would keep Trent...what QBs are out there?

[Neuqua]

I'm not sure yet. We have another week and a half before the deadline to submit a keeper and usually everyone waits until the very last minute.

And we don't know the draft order until 30 minutes before the draft begins so it's really a crapshoot.

[Danny]

10 team/.5PPR/1QB-3WR-2RB-1F start.

I can keep Trent Richardson and forfeit my 3rd Rd pick

or

Keep RG3 and forfeit my 11th Rd pick.

Each team only keeps one player? What are passing tds and yards worth?

[Julio Riddols]

I'd keep RG3 in a heartbeat and draft a better RB with one of my early picks. Not a big fan of Trent from a fantasy standpoint yet, at least not in that offense.

[Neuqua]

We can only keep one player.

Passing TDs are 5 pts

Yardage: 25 yards per point; 3 points at 400 yards; 5 points at 500 yards

[corbes]

Kaepernick or Russell Wilson as keeper?

We keep one, at a cost of a draft pick two rounds earlier than the player was selected the previous year. Here I picked up both as FAs later in the season, so I get to keep either one for the cost of a 13th round draft pick. I am almost certain to keep Kaepernick unless I am persuaded otherwise . . . ?

[Danny]

Keep Richardson

[Julio Riddols]

Keep Richardson

I know he scored 12 touchdowns last year. I know he caught 50 balls. Is his value at RB higher than Griffin's at QB? I think it is a toss up, which is why I think keeping the earlier pick is the better idea.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just want to know why you are as sold on him as you appear to be.

[Danny]

I'm medium on him, but a his value is far far higher cause of vbd

[Julio Riddols]

I see. So in theory his value as a round 3 pick at RB is greater than RGIII's value as a round 11 pick at QB?

[Danny]

Yes. Especially with the value available at QB this year and lack of value at RB. It also helps Richardsons value that there is a flex spot.

And I just looked at the numbers and I will give an even stronger nod to RIchardson who has about a +80 value where as Griffin has about 0. A 3rd round RB will only have a value of 15-25 at most

[Danny]

And saying Griffin has 0 value is not saying he is bad to have on his team. It means he provides +0 points over the 10th rated quarterback.

[Neuqua]

That's actually how I've been leaning. I tend to always be the last guy to draft a QB as it is and there's just so much depth at that position this season.

The only reason I pose the question is if RG3 really is fully healthy and does end up running the ball despite his injury history (unlikely I know), he's capable of single-handedly carrying a team to a championship. He's a huge wild card.

[cmp]

Who would you pick for a keeper in an auction keeper league? $200 budget.

Already keeping Alfred Morris for $8 and Brandon Marshall for $25.

Darren McFadden $15
Matt Forte $34

[Sublime 2]

I'm in need of some advice, 10 team league, keep 4.
.5 ppr
QB TDs 4 points
RB/WR 6 points

Newton
Luck
Sproles
Ridley
McFadden
Nicks
VJax
Britt

No restrictions on who to keep.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Who would you pick for a keeper in an auction keeper league? $200 budget.

Already keeping Alfred Morris for $8 and Brandon Marshall for $25.

Darren McFadden $15
Matt Forte $34

I like Matt Forte a lot this year. $34 is high, but I think he has a great year.

I'm in need of some advice, 10 team league, keep 4.
.5 ppr
QB TDs 4 points
RB/WR 6 points

Newton
Luck
Sproles
Ridley
McFadden
Nicks
VJax
Britt

No restrictions on who to keep.

Newton, Sproles, VJax & Nicks. I could see an argument for Ridley over Nicks, but I prefer Nicks.

[Julio Riddols]

I'd probably keep Luck and Newton, maybe try and flip one for a sure fire stud in another position, or just play matchups all year. After them, I like Vincent Jackson and Darren Sproles with Nicks and Ridley following close behind. Nobody else really strikes me as keep worthy.

[illinifan999]

No ppr, 12 team league, keep 2 players.

Guys I'm considering:

Stevan Ridley at a cost of a 6th round pick
Matt Ryan at a cost of a 4th
Jacquizz Rogers at a cost of a 7th
Rashard Mendenhall at a cost of a 11th

I'm thinking Ridley for sure, and Mendenhall for the value. Am I crazy?

[QuikSand]

You'd be the better judge of whether Ryan at that value is good enough to keep - but I think he's charting out as around QB4-7 (and I think that's pretty fair, I expect him to land on at least one of my teams this year), and locking him up fairly easily seems like it might be a pretty sensible thing to do. No idea if Mendenhall is much value at that slot, but if you think Ryan is no value, I guess RM isn't a dumb play, definitely better than Rogers.

[Danny]

Go mendenhall and Ridley

[Julio Riddols]

I'm with Danny on this one.

[corbes]

Better to keep Doug Martin with a 2nd round pick or Colin Kaepernick with a 13th round pick?

[Danny]

Need scoring, number of team and lineup info

[Vince, Pt. II]

You'd be the better judge of whether Ryan at that value is good enough to keep - but I think he's charting out as around QB4-7 (and I think that's pretty fair, I expect him to land on at least one of my teams this year), and locking him up fairly easily seems like it might be a pretty sensible thing to do. No idea if Mendenhall is much value at that slot, but if you think Ryan is no value, I guess RM isn't a dumb play, definitely better than Rogers.

I'm with Quik. Matt Ryan seems like he needs to be one of the guys you keep.

[Danny]

I'm with Quik. Matt Ryan seems like he needs to be one of the guys you keep.

If his league is 4pt passing tds and no flex then Ryan charts in as a mid 5th rounder. In a 6 pt padding td league Ryan charts in at a mid 4th rounder.

Mendenhall charts in at an early 6th round grade in either setup. If it used a flex then Mendenhall boosts up to an early / mid 5th rounder. This is based on using VBD and average projections

[corbes]

Need scoring, number of team and lineup info


12 team IDP
QB-RB-RB-FLEX-WR-WR-TE-K-IDP
5 bench players
QB: 6pt TD, 1pt per 20 yards
RB: 6pt TD, 1pt per 10 yards
WR: 6pt TD, 1pt per 10 yards

Keeper rule: Keep 1 player, at a cost of the draft round 2 rounds earlier than was selected last year.

Choice:
RB Doug Martin (2nd round pick)
QB Colin Kaepernick (13th round pick)

[Danny]

And what pick # do you have in round 2?

[corbes]

Alas, don't know. The draft order won't be revealed until just before the draft.

[Vince, Pt. II]

If his league is 4pt passing tds and no flex then Ryan charts in as a mid 5th rounder. In a 6 pt padding td league Ryan charts in at a mid 4th rounder.

Mendenhall charts in at an early 6th round grade in either setup. If it used a flex then Mendenhall boosts up to an early / mid 5th rounder. This is based on using VBD and average projections

What #'s are you using to base VBD off of? I found an article on it, but they seem to use a 12 team league with 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR AND a Flex slot. All of my leagues are 10 team, and have a 1 QB, 2 RB 2 WR structure (some have a flex instead of one of the four RB/WR slots).

[Danny]

I subscribe to footballguys. I don't necessarily go by their projections but their vbd cheat sheets and application for evey possible league setup imaginable is excellent.

[Danny]

Ther appication even lets you put in your exactl league specifications and outputs a vbd cheat sheet

[Danny]

Arent we supposed to have started drafting?

[MikeVic]

I'm having trouble deciding which two players to keep... we start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 RB/WR flex...

Tom Brady
Alfred Morris
Trent Richardson
Chris Johnson
Randall Cobb

Right now I'm planning on Morris/Richardson, but can pretty much be talked in to Brady or Cobb (probably not cj1k)... I feel Morris will be tied into RGIII's health too much. Thanks!

[Danny]

Morris and Richardson easily and Johnson would be the next choice.

[Julio Riddols]

Morris did fine with RG3 out last year, 80 plus yards and 2 TDs. That was probably with the Browns loading up to stop him since Cousins was a rookie making his first start. I agree on keeping him and Richardson. Too many QB's out there with too little difference between them.

[MikeVic]

Thanks, I'm leaning towards Richardson and Morris so maybe it'll stay that way haha.

Cobb doesn't get any consideration? I'm asking because in another league (start 2 RBs and 3 WRs), we keep three and I was thinking of Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, ad Cobb... My other choices are Stevan Ridley and Chris Johnson... Thoughts?

[Danny]

Cobb is a no way. I would definitely keep Chris Johnson over him in your other league also

[TLK]

I go with either of the RB's over Cobb.

[Qwikshot]

Thanks, I'm leaning towards Richardson and Morris so maybe it'll stay that way haha.

Cobb doesn't get any consideration? I'm asking because in another league (start 2 RBs and 3 WRs), we keep three and I was thinking of Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, ad Cobb... My other choices are Stevan Ridley and Chris Johnson... Thoughts?

Runningbacks are the heart of the machine, you keep them first. Receivers are a supplement.

[Qwikshot]

So I decided my keepers but still have until next Tuesday to change my mind...

Standard yahoo league (save qb tds are 6 points not 4)
You get to keep 1 player from your 1st three picks, can't keep free agents, can't keep three players at the same position.

I had initiallly contemplated Cam Netwon, Cobb and Harvin, but Harvin decided to go break himself.

I had no keeper eligible running backs.

So I decided the upside to keeping Newton is better than Julius Jones (my other worthy top 3 round keeper). I keep Cobb (he was a late round draft pick last year - thanks Matt Berry) and I'll keep Antonio Brown, the newly annointed #1 receiver for the Steelers.

With 4 picks in the first two rounds of the league I plan on drafting runningbacks.

[Qwikshot]

And Le'Von Bell might have a listfranc injury...

I'm thinking of the rookies Lacy is the best bet. I'm hoping now to grab Alfred Morris with my first pick (#2 overall) and perhaps Mr. Forte with the 8th.

I'm strategizing, but I think I'll burn a late pick on Russel Wilson if Kapernick is grabbed. I'm not sold that Cam Newton will rise up with as crappy a team he has.

[Vince, Pt. II]

The more I look at things, outside of keeper options, I think I'm just going to wait until everyone already has a QB and then waiting a while and taking the best QB available. Soooooooo much depth this year.

[Qwikshot]

The more I look at things, outside of keeper options, I think I'm just going to wait until everyone already has a QB and then waiting a while and taking the best QB available. Soooooooo much depth this year.

Totally agree, if I had a capable runningback (I have McGahee who may get a looksee if Le'Von Bell is really hurt) I would definately keep them, but outside of talented receivers and a high upside QB, I got nothing.

The good news for me is 4 picks in the first two rounds (outside of all the keepers) that gives me multiple options.

Vick just got annointed as the starting QB of the Eagles, good chance I'll grab him late.

I think it's pretty clear that I'll avoid Jaguars (I don't think I'd gamble with MJD), Dolphins, Chargers and Raiders. The Browns have some talent, I'm concerned about the Lions (Stafford doesn't seem to have his head on straight).

Still I think barring injuries, that I can have a somewhat capable team that can perform.

[Julio Riddols]

I like Weeden, Cameron and Gordon for Cleveland. Gordon is making their supplemental selection of him look pretty good so far, Weeden looks like a totally different QB, and Cameron looks like he will benefit from both as a red zone target.

As much as I hate saying it, Cleveland worries me the most out of all the teams in the North because they are kind of an unknown. The things they have done this preseason have been impressive though.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I hate reading into the preseason, but it's hard to ignore how good Weeden has looked. Combine that with a great O-Line and a workhorse running back...there might be a reason to be worried there.

[Vince, Pt. II]

So keeper lists have been revealed, and our draft is on Sunday. I have the #1 overall pick, and my keepers look like so:

QB Peyton Manning
RB Alfred Morris
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
WR Roddy White
WR
Flex
TE
K
D
Bench: Colin Kaepernick

Typical 10-team league, .5 ppr. Here are the interesting names out there:

QB
Russell Wilson
Matthew Stafford
Tony Romo
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger

RB
Lamar Miller
Darren McFadden
Ryan Mathews
Rashard Mendenhall
LeVeon Bell
Eddie Lacy

WR
Antonio Brown
Torrey Smith
Eric Decker
Wes Welker
Jordy Nelson
Cecil Shorts
Steve Smith
Mike Wallace

TE
Jason Witten
Vernon Davis
Jermichael Finley

I'm going to be trying desperately to trade Peyton or Kaepernick away before the draft for some WR or RB help (two teams didn't keep a QB), but assuming I can't what looks like my best option? As much as I hate that Run DMC burned me last year, the ditching of the zone blocking scheme and his contract year has me thinking that he's the highest upside out there. I'm not nearly as high on Miller as the rest of the world seems to be, and I think that there's too much TE depth to go TE with my first pick.

Edit: It's also a straight draft, not a snake, so I get the first pick in every round. I don't have a 3rd round pick, as I traded it for MJD.

[Danny]

From that list I go McFadden for sure. Is Reggie bush available? If so I would take him

[Vince, Pt. II]

Nope. Vereen, Ball, Ivory and Giovani Bernard are the only available RB's worth noting that I didn't put on the list up there.

[Danny]

Yeah got to go McFadden

[Julio Riddols]

Package MJD and Kaepernick for LeSean McCoy or Ray Rice, then take Decker and Lacy with your first 2 picks.

[Danny]

Separate issue but I think brown is a much better pick than decker this year

[Qwikshot]

So, long story short...I kept Julio Jones, Randall Cobb and Antonio Gates...(this is per our keeper rules)

The draft was last night and I was definitely nervous.

The team that picked first, grabbed Drew Brees...he's off to having a crappy team again.

So I had to decide between Alfred Morris and Trent Richardson...guys I went Alfred Morris.

Trent went next.
Then Steven Ridley..Forte...SJax...Brandon Marshall

Me again in the eighth spot...so I decide of the options, Eddie Lacy is the most upside, great team, red zone options and he doesn't have to carry the team to the end zone.

Round 5 (keeping in mind it's actually the 2nd round as the 1st three rounds are the keeper selections) I grab David Wilson and Reggie Bush.

Round 6, I have no picks but I watch as Peyton, Cam Newton and Tom Brady are selected (plus gone are Brees (selected 1st overall), Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, Aaron Rogers were all keepers).

Probably my biggest flub, I selected Kaepernick over Stafford who went several picks later in the Seventh, but I like the 49ers upside (and I hope to grab Vick or Romo later)

Round 8, the guy who grabbed Brees 1st, grabs Russel Wilson, I grab Shane Vereen (I'm now top heavy on running backs). Vick is selected by another team at the end of this round.

Round 9 I select Kembrell Thompkins as my spare receiver (one team selects Jason Avant this round)

Round 10 I decide on Le'Veon Bell, the worst team in the league selects Christine Michael, Andre Brown and Ben Tate go next. Romo is drafted by the team who selected Vick.

Round 11 I have no picks, some team grabs Eli Manning as a backup, another team selects Fred Jackson. Really crappy round.

Round 12 I select Zack Sudfeld to probably start over Gates. Jorden Cameron and Jared Cook are grabbed. Flacco and Andy Dalton are grabbed as back-ups, and suddenly I feel a little light in the QB department.

Round 13 I was eyeing Big Ben but he and Schaub go before my pick. I grab EJ Manuel and pray I don't need him. The worst team in the league selects Percy Harvin which is a smart pick if you think you'll be contending by season's end, I don't think he will though.

Round 14 Ryan Broyles makes the team as a depth receiver, I hope to never need to start him.

Round 15 and 16 - Green Bay defense (I wanted Cincy) and Alex Henery because I believe the Eagles will be scoring or at least giving him some field goal options.

Starting Line-up

QB - Kaepernick
RB - Morris
RB - Lacy
WR - J Jones
WR - Cobb
Flex (Rb/Wr) - Bush
K - Henery
Def - GB

Bench
RB - D Wilson
RB - Vereen
RB - Le'Veon Bell
WR - K Thompkins
WR - Broyles

I think as long as Kaepernick stays good, this team should roll.

I have put out feelers to the team that owns Brady (also has Andrew Luck) but he wants Morris which I said no to.

I put out feelers for the Brees owner but he wants to keep Brees and Wilson...he better hope Lamar Miller and Chris Ivory can perform next to AP.

I'm happy with the team...