The 2013 NFL Preseason Thread

[Abe Sargent]

We should probably stop posting in the off-season thread considering how deep we are into the pre-season.

[Thomkal]

Dustin Keller did just about every injury you can do to a knee:

Dustin Keller (knee) out for Miami Dolphins' season - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000231458/article/dustin-keller-knee-out-for-miami-dolphins-season)

Ouch.

[Julio Riddols]

Goodness.

[claphamsa]

apparently Von Miller will be banned for 6 games. no ideas what he may have done.

[Julio Riddols]

Wow, the Broncos are getting hammered this preseason.

[Huckleberry]

apparently Von Miller will be banned for 6 games. no ideas what he may have done.

Pot. Despite the "NFL Source" that says otherwise.

[Logan]

The Niners and Chiefs swapped underperforming (in the Niners' case, non-performing) 1st round pick WRs today, with Jon Baldwin heading west for A.J. Jenkins.

[QuikSand]

The Niners and Chiefs swapped underperforming (in the Niners' case, non-performing) 1st round pick WRs today, with Jon Baldwin heading west for A.J. Jenkins.

Heh, shades of Jon Avery and Marcus Nash. That worked out. (Yes, I'm still bitter) Though I think Avery got to play a little in the XFL, so that's nice.

http://www.phins.com/news99/News_9909221036.html

[Suburban Rhythm]

The Niners and Chiefs swapped underperforming (in the Niners' case, non-performing) 1st round pick WRs today, with Jon Baldwin heading west for A.J. Jenkins.

A guy at work mentioned this trade at lunch and I was sort of confused. Baldwin's been bad...but that's only because he has a body of work to judge him bad at. Jenkins has nothing.

[Dr. Sak]

So did anyone see Pam Oliver get drilled in the face with the football last night?

[bhlloy]

Yeah I think all things considered you at least want the guy with the physical attributes to be decent. Jenkins has been nothing except a very puzzling pick from a front office that is usually very good (and off the top of my head I think there were still many higher rated WR on the board at the time)

[Lathum]

So did anyone see Pam Oliver get drilled in the face with the football last night?

Yeah. Almost seemed intentional.

[PilotMan]

How enjoyable is football when you cringe after every play anticipating someone getting hurt?

[bhlloy]

Not sure if this belongs in the season thread but if media reports are accurate (big if) sounds like Hernandez is really boned. They found the gun used in the 2012 double homicide and the girl involved sounds like she hasnt id'd him by name but was given it to hold on to "for a football player". Wonder what he's going to get for triple homicide?

[ISiddiqui]

This is interesting: Google CEO Larry Page Discusses TV Package with NFL Head Roger Goodell - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD (http://allthingsd.com/20130820/is-google-ready-to-buy-its-way-into-tv-with-an-nfl-deal/)

Google looking into buying NFL Sunday Ticket rights and broadcasting it on YouTube. Of course one consideration for the NFL is that doing so may reduce the price that CBS & FOX are willing to pay for TV broadcast rights (esp since I can stream YouTube on my TV and so can many others)

[RedKingGold]

This is interesting: Google CEO Larry Page Discusses TV Package with NFL Head Roger Goodell - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD (http://allthingsd.com/20130820/is-google-ready-to-buy-its-way-into-tv-with-an-nfl-deal/)

Google looking into buying NFL Sunday Ticket rights and broadcasting it on YouTube. Of course one consideration for the NFL is that doing so may reduce the price that CBS & FOX are willing to pay for TV broadcast rights (esp since I can stream YouTube on my TV and so can many others)

I think you're leaping to conclusions, especially with the bolded part. I would imagine any such deal would include provisions requiring Google to block Sunday Ticket from being accessed on TV's without paying a higher premium. The NFL is looking to boost its revenue stream by adding an Internet component and cutting into its TV revenue stream to do so would be counterproductive.

[Logan]

I'm no techie...can you really block the ability to send video over a cable?

edit: Ah I see. You're talking Smart TV-like built in apps.

[ISiddiqui]

I would imagine any such deal would include provisions requiring Google to block Sunday Ticket from being accessed on TV's without paying a higher premium.

I don't know if that's possible. Maybe they could make Chromecast not pick it up from a Android tablet/phone, but it can easily be done by mirroring your Chrome browser tab.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I don't know if that's possible. Maybe they could make Chromecast not pick it up from a Android tablet/phone, but it can easily be done by mirroring your Chrome browser tab.

Couldn't you also just run YouTube on your computer and hook your computer up to your TV and watch it like that?

[Chief Rum]

Detroit fans, any thoughts on Joe Fauria making the Lions? He was a terrific mismatch at UCLA with his size and terrific hands, and I was surprised he wasn't drafted. I heard he's making it difficult to cut him and that the Lions may end up cutting Scheffler instead of Fauria.

[Julio Riddols]

Is he related to Christian Fauria?

[ISiddiqui]

Couldn't you also just run YouTube on your computer and hook your computer up to your TV and watch it like that?

Which is basically the same thing, only sans wires ;).

[Honolulu_Blue]

Detroit fans, any thoughts on Joe Fauria making the Lions? He was a terrific mismatch at UCLA with his size and terrific hands, and I was surprised he wasn't drafted. I heard he's making it difficult to cut him and that the Lions may end up cutting Scheffler instead of Fauria.

There has been a lot of buzz around him, especially recently. The Lions will keep 3 tight ends. Pettigrew (for better or worse) is a lock. After him there's Scheffler, 7th round pick Michael Williams, who is definitely more of a blocking TE than a receiver and then Fauria. Fauria is currently the 4th TE.

Scheffler has seen very, very limited action in the pre-season. Only a handful of snaps. Fauria has seen a lot more action and has been pretty impressive during practice. It's possible Fauria could be out Williams as well, if the Lions think they can get away without a blocking TE. (Williams was essentially brought in to replace Will Heller.)

I think the Lions like his size. He definitely has a shot.

[mckerney]

Couldn't you also just run YouTube on your computer and hook your computer up to your TV and watch it like that?

Yeah, it'd be pretty easy to do. I've done the same with NFL Game Pass on my TV for what I've watched of the preseason so far.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Detroit fans, any thoughts on Joe Fauria making the Lions? He was a terrific mismatch at UCLA with his size and terrific hands, and I was surprised he wasn't drafted. I heard he's making it difficult to cut him and that the Lions may end up cutting Scheffler instead of Fauria.

An update on this. Fauria had a pretty good game tonight. He did get hit with a chop block penalty, but he ended up with 3 catches for 44 yards and a touchdown. This was all in the second half with the first stringers were out, but it was a positive sign.

Also, the third string TE, Michael Williams, injured his hand. Not sure how serious.

Is he related to Christian Fauria?

Apparently he's his nephew.

[Desnudo]

Couldn't you also just run YouTube on your computer and hook your computer up to your TV and watch it like that?

You can hook an iPad directly up to a tv through HDMI or stream to an Apple TV through AirPlay. The NFL probably views the direct tv deal as a cap on potential revenue with its tiny subscription base. I'll bet Google or even Apple or MSFT pays a lot more for the rights.

[Matthean]

That new WR Detroit got named Reggie Bush seems really good. :D

Tebow not playing in a 40-9 blowout loss is probably not a good sign.

[Julio Riddols]

I think Kellen Moore can be a Chad Pennington type QB. He's very accurate. Joique Bell might be the better runner out of the backfield for the Lions, they ought to just make Reggie a WR/RB hybrid like Harvin and solve their problem of finding a guy to play opposite Johnson.

Also, Luke Kuechly is looking like one of those players that makes a huge difference for a long time. Made Flacco look real bad on some throws.

[SackAttack]

I think you're leaping to conclusions, especially with the bolded part. I would imagine any such deal would include provisions requiring Google to block Sunday Ticket from being accessed on TV's without paying a higher premium.

How would you even...? Most TVs anymore have a VGA in. It would be the simplest thing in the world to hook a laptop up, and then there's even cats like me who use our TVs as a PC monitor.

About the only way you could block it (maybe) would be Smart TVs, put a block in the app.

[Radii]

Looking at the boxscores from last night... Carolina scored 34 points last night, on a punt return, two interception returns, one fumble return, and two field goals. Kinda crazy.

[albionmoonlight]

You can hook an iPad directly up to a tv through HDMI or stream to an Apple TV through AirPlay. The NFL probably views the direct tv deal as a cap on potential revenue with its tiny subscription base. I'll bet Google or even Apple or MSFT pays a lot more for the rights.

The NFL's major Sunday afternoon TV partners, Fox and CBS, have expressed discomfort with Sunday Ticket becoming widely available. Their fear is that if people have lots of games from which to choose, then they will flip over to those games during beer commercials, driving down the price they can charge for those spots.

I think that there is also something in that mix about it being more valuable for people to be watching the local affiliates and commercials than the national affiliates, but JonInMidGA or someone who understands that better can confirm or deny that.

Basically, I can see a world where Sunday Ticket is no longer exclusive to DirecTV, but I think that it is not as simple as selling those rights to the highest bidder. The big dogs (i.e. the Sunday afternoon broadcast partners) will have to be happy with any arrangement.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I think that there is also something in that mix about it being more valuable for people to be watching the local affiliates and commercials than the national affiliates, but JonInMidGA or someone who understands that better can confirm or deny that.

The benefit is mostly in the sense of affiliate relations as far as I can think of.

{tries to think of another angle} Local breaks in NFL games are always filled with local spots, so there's no additional spots for the network or anything. That money stays local, nothing there. National network makes its coin on the commercial inventory it sells, that inventory would actually increase on a national feed they had 100% control of.

Yeah, I'm thinking affiliate relations.

[Chief Rum]

Is he related to Christian Fauria?

I had thought they were cousins, but nephew works.

[Chief Rum]

An update on this. Fauria had a pretty good game tonight. He did get hit with a chop block penalty, but he ended up with 3 catches for 44 yards and a touchdown. This was all in the second half with the first stringers were out, but it was a positive sign.

Also, the third string TE, Michael Williams, injured his hand. Not sure how serious.

That's terrific (about Fauria playing well). I really thought he had a good chance to make an impact for an NFL team, so it was pretty surprising to me that he didn't get drafted. His blocking deficiencies would have kept him from being a higher end draft pick, but a strong receiving TE with that kind of size and pretty good athleticism? I would have thought someone would have used a 6th round pick on him or something like that.

[molson]

Tebow not playing in a 40-9 blowout loss is probably not a good sign.

Well, it's a good sign for Patriots fans.

[DaddyTorgo]

I straight up turned that game off after like...the first offensive possession (if you can call it that) of the 2nd half.

Preseason and all...good to get those kinks worked out now, but no reason I have to sit and watch it.

[Castlerock]

Tebow not playing in a 40-9 blowout loss is probably not a good sign.

Well, it's a good sign for Patriots fans.

I would not put too much stock in it if Tebow plays significant minutes in the last one. It's the 3rd preseason game so Brady is going to get his maximum preseason snaps. I think it is clear that Mallet is the 2nd QB so it makes sense to give him a good, long outing. In the past, Belicheck has featured one backup QB in one game and then played the other significant minutes in the next.

All that said... I'm still not sure why Tebow is around.

[Julio Riddols]

Looking at the boxscores from last night... Carolina scored 34 points last night, on a punt return, two interception returns, one fumble return, and two field goals. Kinda crazy.

Almost all of that was caused by Kuechly.

[Suburban Rhythm]

BLOCKBUSTER TRADE!!

Backup OLB Adrian Robsinson to the Eagles
Felix Jones to the Steelers

Chances that either of these guys is on the roster in 4 works?


Jones might make sense if Pittsburgh didn't already like 4 mediocre RBs to split time until (if?) Bell gets healthy.

[Chief Rum]

BLOCKBUSTER TRADE!!

Backup OLB Adrian Robsinson to the Eagles
Felix Jones to the Steelers

Chances that either of these guys is on the roster in 4 works?


Jones might make sense if Pittsburgh didn't already like 4 mediocre RBs to split time until (if?) Bell gets healthy.

The fact that the Steelers even made the effort to trade for a "mediocre RB" in Jones when they have the depth of mediocrity that they do suggests to me they don't share your opinion of Jones.

Which means he probably has a legit shot at starting until Bell gets healthy or he gets hurt (guarantee the second option is much more likely).

[QuikSand]

I like Jones to the Stillers, actually.

[DaddyTorgo]

Almost all of that was caused by Kuechly.

KEEKS!!!!!:D

[Julio Riddols]

Bell's foot must be pretty bad.

[Julio Riddols]

Kind of surprised they didn't go to Willis McGahee though. He seems like the perfect Steeler type RB.

[Radii]

Almost all of that was caused by Kuechly.

I love Kuechly, hopefully he can avoid the injury problems Carolina's last two MLB's were ravaged by (Dan Morgan/Jon Beason)

[Chief Rum]

Bell's foot must be pretty bad.

Actually, reports are that Bell's foot isn't as bad as they feared. It's not a full Lis Franc injury like MJD had last year or DMC two years ago. I have heard six weeks as the prognosis. If that presumes the first two weeks are preseason as well, he might be back by Week 5.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Bell's foot must be pretty bad.

Actually, reports are that Bell's foot isn't as bad as they feared. It's not a full Lis Franc injury like MJD had last year or DMC two years ago. I have heard six weeks as the prognosis. If that presumes the first two weeks are preseason as well, he might be back by Week 5.

As of yesterday, they are only officially ruling Bell out of tomorrow night's game vs KC (preseason #3).

Bell will not have surgery, just resting this week, and, per Tomlin, not ruling him out for final preseason game and/or week 1 vs Tennessee

[Julio Riddols]

I love Kuechly, hopefully he can avoid the injury problems Carolina's last two MLB's were ravaged by (Dan Morgan/Jon Beason)

The crazy thing is he looks like he is improved significantly over last season. Might be the next dominant MLB, potentially up there with Lewis and Urlacher. I hope he stays healthy too, just because I like seeing great players play.

[Desnudo]

The NFL's major Sunday afternoon TV partners, Fox and CBS, have expressed discomfort with Sunday Ticket becoming widely available. Their fear is that if people have lots of games from which to choose, then they will flip over to those games during beer commercials, driving down the price they can charge for those spots.

I think that there is also something in that mix about it being more valuable for people to be watching the local affiliates and commercials than the national affiliates, but JonInMidGA or someone who understands that better can confirm or deny that.

Basically, I can see a world where Sunday Ticket is no longer exclusive to DirecTV, but I think that it is not as simple as selling those rights to the highest bidder. The big dogs (i.e. the Sunday afternoon broadcast partners) will have to be happy with any arrangement.

I agree with you in the sense that NFL rights are not a rational economic market. However, if a bidder were willing to make an over the top bid that made the economics a non-discussion point, I bet the NFL's tune would change. Any one of the tech companies could easily outmuscle one of the networks purely from an available cash perspective. If Google gets involved, it could make for some very interesting stories.

[tucker rocky]

.....from having Vince Young as their starting QB.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000233490/article/qb-graham-harrell-reportedly-to-be-released-by-pack

[Julio Riddols]

Uh oh, Spiller grabbing his knee.

[Julio Riddols]

Walks off under own power, might not be as bad as it looked. Initially he grabbed for his knee and was in obvious pain, and couldn't put weight on the leg when he tried to stand up.

[Danny]

Oh man he is my guy in my first money league

[Julio Riddols]

If I had to guess, I would bank on a mild to average sprain. He might miss a week or two.

[Bad-example]

From NFP:

Former NFL linebacker Jamie Winborn, who played for a number of NFL teams, is reportedly missing, WSMV Channel 4 in Nashville reports.

Winborn, 34, last played in the NFL with the Tennessee Titans three years ago, had weapons and drugs in his Atlanta home, according what his wife told police.

According to reports, Winborn has been battling cancer.

[Julio Riddols]

If I had to guess, I would bank on a mild to average sprain. He might miss a week or two.

Turns out he is good to go, just got spiked a bit. I imagine he won't see the field next week as a precaution.

[Logan]

From NFP:

Former NFL linebacker Jamie Winborn, who played for a number of NFL teams, is reportedly missing, WSMV Channel 4 in Nashville reports.

Winborn, 34, last played in the NFL with the Tennessee Titans three years ago, had weapons and drugs in his Atlanta home, according what his wife told police.

According to reports, Winborn has been battling cancer.

Damn, I loved him when he was with the Niners. I turned him into a beast in Madden. Hope this turns out okay.

[Lathum]

Giants lose safety Stevie Brown for the season (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2013/08/25/stevie-brown-giants-acl/2697171/)

big loss, 8 ints last year

[Lathum]

Kevin Kolbs career could be over

Kevin Kolb of Buffalo Bills has concussion, source says - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9600221/kevin-kolb-buffalo-bills-concussion-source-says)

[Thomkal]

Kevin Kolbs career could be over

Kevin Kolb of Buffalo Bills has concussion, source says - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9600221/kevin-kolb-buffalo-bills-concussion-source-says)

Wow feel bad for Kolb-got a bit of a raw deal with my beloved Cardinals and couldn't stay healthy there either. Ironically, another Cardinals QB who got a raw deal there as well could be the new starter in Matt Leinart.

[mckerney]

Kevin Williams injured, apparently getting some much needed reps playing in the 3rd quarter.

[mckerney]

Ugh, replay of injury to knee looked like to could be bad.

[Julio Riddols]

Kolb must be one of the most fragile men ever to walk the earth.

[Dutch]

Kolb must be one of the most fragile men ever to walk the earth.

There's always Chris Simms to challenge anybody for that title, but maybe Kolb is worthy of this title.

[tucker rocky]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000233879/article/jonathan-cooper-breaks-leg-could-be-out-for-season

[Thomkal]

Jonathan Cooper breaks leg, could be out for season - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000233879/article/jonathan-cooper-breaks-leg-could-be-out-for-season)

*sigh* My beloved Cards can't seem to catch a break (sorry Jonathan) when it comes to their offensive line. Look for Carson Palmer to be out by week 4 I guess with an injury from being sacked all the time. :(

[JPhillips]

A great story on former Bengals LB Reggie Williams and his quest to save a battered knee.

http://news.cincinnati.com/interactive/article/20130825/COL03/130822035/Ex-Cincinnati-Bengal-fighting-save-leg?nclick_check=1

[Vince, Pt. II]

There's always Chris Simms to challenge anybody for that title, but maybe Kolb is worthy of this title.

Chris Chandler, anyone?

[gstelmack]

Chris Chandler, anyone?

Chris Chandler wasn't fragile, he just invited big hits. He behaved like a RB whenever he ran with the ball.

[Chief Rum]

Can someone explain to me why Willis McGahee still doesn't have a job?

[Julio Riddols]

I can't believe he isn't in Pittsburgh or Arizona right now.

[DaddyTorgo]

Can someone explain to me why Willis McGahee still doesn't have a job?

Presumably it's the perception that he has a lot of hard miles on him?

[Julio Riddols]

He didn't look like he had lost anything last year.

[BishopMVP]

So the Pats open up with Buffalo, who will be starting a rookie UDFA at QB, and the Jets, who might have an even worse QB situation right now. Maybe Tebow will see some early playing time!

[MacroGuru]

So the Pats open up with Buffalo, who will be starting a rookie UDFA at QB, and the Jets, who might have an even worse QB situation right now. Maybe Tebow will see some early playing time!

Sigh...I am upset Marrone announced that today. I still think EJ starts, but Tuel has been playing well..

[Lathum]

So the Pats open up with Buffalo, who will be starting a rookie UDFA at QB, and the Jets, who might have an even worse QB situation right now. Maybe Tebow will see some early playing time!

LMAO

[albionmoonlight]

Pats early-season fantasy D looking good in preseason

[tucker rocky]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000234489/article/will-smith-injures-knee-will-miss-saints-season

The serious injuries are racking up for this NFL season.

[Thomkal]

Jonathan Cooper breaks leg, could be out for season - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000233879/article/jonathan-cooper-breaks-leg-could-be-out-for-season)

Jonathan Cooper could return to Cardinals this season - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000234526/article/jonathan-cooper-could-return-to-cardinals-this-season)

I think the only way this happens is if his recovery is quicker than expected, and somehow they are still in the playoff hunt at that point in the season. Why chance another injury otherwise.

[JPhillips]

So the Pats open up with Buffalo, who will be starting a rookie UDFA at QB, and the Jets, who might have an even worse QB situation right now. Maybe Tebow will see some early playing time!

This isn't taking anything away from the Pats, but it's amazing how year after year their division schedule is six JV games.

[BishopMVP]

This isn't taking anything away from the Pats, but it's amazing how year after year their division schedule is six JV games.Well, 4 - usually one team is frisky (this year Miami). But I was hanging out with a mixed group of Pats/Jets/Dolphins/Giants/Eagles fans a few nights back, and people were talking a little smack here and there (Hernandez this, Gronk that, Tebow, "no WR's", Lions just smoked you, etc), but it doesn't even get a rise out of any Pats fan I know at this point. It sounds incredibly cocky, and I swear none of us is some stereotypical Masshole fan who thinks we're some unstoppable juggernaut that should win a Super Bowl, but we're all just confident we'll win 10+ games and make the playoffs (barring a Brady injury), and even the opposing fans all acknowledge that (while following up that Eli or the Ravens would beat us in the playoffs again or whatever). Outside of those first couple Rex Ryan years we really haven't had an in division rival since the late 90's - we all measure ourselves against the Colts/Steelers/Ravens/Giants/Broncos/Chargers, and I think that's helped drive the perception of Boston fans as elitists, when really a lot of it is a product of having a really weak division. Especially when considering all the measures intended to help achieve parity in the NFL, it's been a ridiculous 10-12 years.

[britrock88]

This isn't taking anything away from the Pats, but it's amazing how year after year their division schedule is six JV games.

And there was the Cassel year where the Pats went 11-5 and finished 3rd in the division.

[Lathum]

Andre Brown broken leg. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

[Coffee Warlord]

Jonathan Cooper did officially go on IR today. Tough break.

Never fear, Cards fans! J'marcus Webb is now available! (And before anyone says he's not a guard...he's not really a tackle either).

[miami_fan]

So are the Broncos and the Jets vindicated for not turning the franchise over to Tim Tebow?

[JonInMiddleGA]

So are the Broncos and the Jets vindicated for not turning the franchise over to Tim Tebow?

No, not in the slightest afaic (especially not Denver).

[Matthean]

Not surprising considering the Pats only tend to keep two QBs. I would say there's almost no real chance he gets picked up being this late in the process unless a team gets hit twice with QB injuries.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Not surprising considering the Pats only tend to keep two QBs. I would say there's almost no real chance he gets picked up being this late in the process unless a team gets hit twice with QB injuries.

One place to keep in mind - perhaps - could be Atlanta.

Dominique Davis was unimpressive in pre-season & the team is believed to be looking for a veteran backup from amongst the cuts.

[Buccaneer]

Dominique Davis was unimpressive in pre-season & the team is believed to be looking for a veteran backup from amongst the cuts.

And what does this statement have anything to do with Tebow?

[JonInMiddleGA]

And what does this statement have anything to do with Tebow?

Blank (supposedly) likes character guys, I could see Tebow being stuck on the practice squad over some of the other options that look to be available right now.

[mckerney]

Not surprising considering the Pats only tend to keep two QBs. I would say there's almost no real chance he gets picked up being this late in the process unless a team gets hit twice with QB injuries.

He'd probably be a decent upgrade for the QB position in Minnesota.

:(

[cuervo72]

Or the backup in Green Bay. :D But "Tebow" and "veteran", lol.

[MrBug708]

The 49ers cut 13-year veteran Brian Jennings this morning, meaning Kevin McDermott has made the 53-man roster and will be the starting longsnapper. Pretty cool for the former UCLA longsnapper. In his four years, he never had a single bad snap

[tucker rocky]

With the Patriots release of Tim Tebow, another chapter is finished in
"The Book of Tebow".

[BillJasper]

Jets release Greg McElroy. They should probably go ahead and start Matt Simms week one. He can't be any worse than Sanchez or Smith.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Or the backup in Green Bay. :D But "Tebow" and "veteran", lol.

It's relative. Compared to D. Davis, Tebow is like Bart Starr in terms of NFL experience.

[Thomkal]

Jonathan Cooper did officially go on IR today. Tough break.

Never fear, Cards fans! J'marcus Webb is now available! (And before anyone says he's not a guard...he's not really a tackle either).

Was reading an article on the Cards SB Nation site about potential waiver wire candidates. Webb was mentioned. This is what the Chicago SB Nation site had to say about him:

"It's been a tumultuous three seasons for J'Marcus Webb. A seventh round pick with all of the physical tools, but absolutely none of the polish, he was thrust into the position of starting for a team that lacked depth at any given position across the offensive line.
"Oft-maligned by the fanbase, a multitude of false starts, mental mistakes, and what appeared to be a lack of focus on plays, often led to his quarterback getting creamed and plays falling apart."


Uh...I think (I hope!) the Cards will pass on him. Really sucks about Cooper-hope the injury does not set his career back and become a yearly injury potential.

[Suburban Rhythm]

So how soon before Tebow is signed by ESPN?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

So how soon before Tebow is signed by ESPN?

Meh. I expect him to get signed by Pat Robertson as the new host of the 700 Club.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Meh. I expect him to get signed by Pat Robertson as the new host of the 700 Club.

It would be an improvement

[Julio Riddols]

He does have a slow delivery, so all the listeners will have adequate time to hear what he is saying.

[mckerney]

Cleveland has no kicker, Oakland has 4 QBs and 2 punters, Goodell fix roster AI plz.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Cleveland has no kicker, Oakland has 4 QBs and 2 punters, Goodell fix roster AI plz.

Cleveland doesnt need one..They might not cross the 50 yard line until their opponents bye week

[Danny]

Considering the awful depth the Raiders have, they will probably cut a QB and P with some waiver claims. In general I expect they add 4-5 players and make a couple more cuts.

[whomario]

Are the box scores misleading or have Keenum and Yates really been this good for Houston ? do they have a shot at starting somewhere down the road ?

[Julio Riddols]

Yates probably could start now, IMO. He seems like a prime candidate to be dealt for picks at some point.

[JonInMiddleGA]

FWIW, I'll withdraw my thoughts about Atlanta/Tebow. I didn't realize until I saw a note in an article this morning that he's no longer practice squad eligible.
I have to think that makes it extremely unlikely he ends up with any NFL team this season.

[mckerney]

Never fear, Cards fans! J'marcus Webb is now available! (And before anyone says he's not a guard...he's not really a tackle either).


Yaaaay, the Vikings claimed him.

[britrock88]

Yates probably could start now, IMO. He seems like a prime candidate to be dealt for picks at some point.

TJ! One of my 2 favorite players from the 7 years I spent in Chapel Hill. (Gio Bernard's the other--remember the State game last year? :D)

ahem... Yates certainly has the making of a starting-caliber NFL quarterback, I think. If Schaub regresses for some reason, Houston could just roll the dice with Yates and see what happens. He's already done well when Schaub has been hurt in previous seasons.

[Thomkal]

Yaaaay, the Vikings claimed him.


Woohoo! :)

[Atocep]

Yaaaay, the Vikings claimed him.

I feel sorry for Vikings fans if he actually has to play.

He has a lot of physical talent, but I think the guy is just too nice. It's like he's afraid he's gong to hurt someone out there.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Detroit fans, any thoughts on Joe Fauria making the Lions? He was a terrific mismatch at UCLA with his size and terrific hands, and I was surprised he wasn't drafted. I heard he's making it difficult to cut him and that the Lions may end up cutting Scheffler instead of Fauria.

An update on this. Fauria had a pretty good game tonight. He did get hit with a chop block penalty, but he ended up with 3 catches for 44 yards and a touchdown. This was all in the second half with the first stringers were out, but it was a positive sign.

Also, the third string TE, Michael Williams, injured his hand. Not sure how serious.

Fauria ended up making the team. The Lions put Williams on IR for the year and kept three tight ends: Pettigrew, Scheffler and Fauria.

[Danny]

2007 QB Draft Class

Jamarcus Russell, LSU, Jr.
Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
Trent Edwards, Stanford
Drew Stanton, Michigan St.
Troy Smith, Ohio St.
Chris Leak, Florida
John Beck, BYU
Kevin Kolb, Houston
Jordan Palmer, UTEP
Tyler Palko, Pitt

[Chief Rum]

Fauria ended up making the team. The Lions put Williams on IR for the year and kept three tight ends: Pettigrew, Scheffler and Fauria.

Yes, I saw that. That's terrific. He will probably hardly play, but I hope he gets a chance. If scheffler is on the roster to catch passes (and I believe he is), I think Fauria can be just as good doing that.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yes, I saw that. That's terrific. He will probably hardly play, but I hope he gets a chance. If scheffler is on the roster to catch passes (and I believe he is), I think Fauria can be just as good doing that.

Schefler has the ability to make some spectacular catches, but disappears for long stretches. Given Fauria's size, I think the Lions would love to look for him in the red zone. Given Stafford's accuracy issues, it never hurts to have his receivers to have as much range as possible.

[Radii]

http://whatshotdjroomba.minus.com/uploads

Game of Thrones style backgrounds for every NFL team.

[molson]

I was thinking about this thread where we were debating whether the NFL would be able to continue to exist after the implementation of the running back crown of the helmet rule. Was this penalty even called once in the preseason?

NFL Football, we hardy knew ye - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=86759)

[samifan24]

Is there a FOFC NFL pick 'em game on Yahoo this year? I know I've participated in a league here in years past.

[Lathum]

Made a Survival Fantasy League - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=87510)

[samifan24]

Made a Survival Fantasy League - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=87510)

Thanks

[Thomkal]

Someone needs to create a Week 1 thread before the game starts :)