Official College Football Week 6 thread [Archive]

Chief Rum

09-30-2013, 10:34 AM

cartman

09-30-2013, 10:35 AM

Macro, you ready for this one?

IIRC, he hates Utah

Chief Rum

09-30-2013, 10:36 AM

IIRC, he hates Utah

Whoops, I thought he was the Utah guy. Do we have a Utah guy? I know we have BYU guys.

Well, in that case, Macro, root for the Bruins!

Matthean

09-30-2013, 10:39 AM

The other games of interest in the Big Ten are MSU @ Iowa. MSU being involved means it will be an ugly and maybe a brutal game to watch. Unless MSU found some sort of offense during the bye week, I expect Iowa to eventually pull this out despite MSU's defense.

Minnesota @ Michigan. Minnesota is a bad team with a good record. Michigan is who the hell knows. Michigan had a bye week so hopefully they can fix their mojo and offer hope for a decent season. If Michigan struggles here, it is going to be a long Big Ten season for them with about 3-6 loses.

Marmel

09-30-2013, 10:42 AM

Clemson at Syracuse for the first ACC game for Syracuse. The Dome will be full and loud. Expect the upset. :D :lol:

molson

09-30-2013, 10:58 AM

The Dome will be full.

I'll be curious to see if that part's true. The Dome hasn't been full for a very long time. Are fans and students in the Northeast going to get fired up for an ACC team, even a top 5 one? I think football's just not a big deal there anymore.

CraigSca

09-30-2013, 11:05 AM

Go Terps. Gulp.

Marmel

09-30-2013, 11:14 AM

I'll be curious to see if that part's true. The Dome hasn't been full for a very long time. Are fans and students in the Northeast going to get fired up for an ACC team, even a top 5 one? I think football's just not a big deal there anymore.

It might not be an actual sellout but it looks like 45K which is good for up there.

Logan

09-30-2013, 11:20 AM

Clemson travels pretty well, from what I heard.

MacroGuru

09-30-2013, 11:20 AM

UCLA at Utah is the Thursday night game.

Bruins will be going for revenge... not against the Utes, but against Thursday night games.

They were utterly embarrassed on Thursday night games three times (at least) in Rick Neuheisel's last two seasons, and ESPN mercifully (for the country) avoided putting them on last year in Mora's first year.

I am hoping we will see the strong Bruins team of the last year and a half, and not the awful squads that usually showed up for Thursday games.

Macro, you ready for this one?

I am all about the Bruins destroying Utah. But I want it to be a low scoring affair..LOL, Kalani Sitake the DC @ Utah is a really good friend of mine and an upstanding guy.

Prime example...He is a BYU grad and former player, in the game 2 weeks ago, his players wanted to celebrate and stomp on the logo on the field after the win, he stood there arms crossed in front of the logo and forced them to celebrate somewhere else. He told them to respect their opponent and the field...to me, that proves a ton about him.

In the BYU world, they travel up to Logan, Utah and take on Utah State and Chuckie Keeton...I am concerned about this game. It has gone from a gimme at the beginning of the season to one where I am going to be on the edge of my seat Friday night.

Lathum

09-30-2013, 11:21 AM

First true test for the Huskies. If the Huskies can keep Hogan in check and get pressure on him we should have a shot. If not it could be a long night.

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-30-2013, 12:55 PM

Huge road trip weekend for KC area fans. Mizzou plays Vandy in Nashville on Saturday in Mizzou's SEC opener, looking to go 5-0. The Chiefs play the Titans on Sunday in Nashville looking to go 5-0. They're expecting a few thousand Mizzou/Chiefs fans at both games. Wish I was going, but know a lot of people who are. Should be a lot of fun.

Huckleberry

09-30-2013, 01:18 PM

Put your mortgage on Iowa State to cover and your second mortgage on the Cyclone moneyline.

bob

09-30-2013, 02:09 PM

I expect ASU to beat Notre Dame by several hundred points.

dawgfan

09-30-2013, 02:13 PM

First true test for the Huskies. If the Huskies can keep Hogan in check and get pressure on him we should have a shot. If not it could be a long night.
Our secondary gives us a chance in this one. Like last year, I expect Wilcox to frequently employ cover 0 and bring as many guys into the box as he can and to run more jumbo sets with Kikaha and E. Hudson outside flanking Shelton and Lagafuaina.

Offensively, Price has and the receivers have to be on their game. I expect to see a lot of the horizontal passing game return with the rocket motions and bubble screens. Obviously if the OL can hold up at all Sark will take shots downfield to try to stretch the Tree D, but I'm expecting their front 7 to be by far the biggest test of the year. Sankey will probably have tough sledding in this one.

The big difference from last year on the Stanford side is Hogan - he's much more mobile than Nunes and can extend plays. Montgomery is playing a lot better, but their TE play has been pedestrian, which limits a lot of what they like to do.

The big difference on the Husky side is the HUNH offense - obviously Stanford has shown they can contain a hurry-up spread by limiting Oregon to 14 last year, but our version is different - the passing game is more sophisticated and we have better receivers.

I figure Stanford will win, but I think the Huskies certainly have a decent shot at pulling the upset on the road.

tarcone

09-30-2013, 04:21 PM

Iowa-MSU will be a slugfest. Iowas offensive line is good enough again for our big back to run behind. Iowa is a 2 point favorite. I think either team will win 17-14. Obviously, Im hoping its Iowa.
Then again, MSU has a terrible offense. And our O line is good. maybe we win another 23-7 game. Or 16-7. I could see Iowa getting 3 FGS and a TD.

tarcone

09-30-2013, 04:23 PM

Put your mortgage on Iowa State to cover and your second mortgage on the Cyclone moneyline.

I wouldnt bet anything on ISU. But thats just hatred of a program speaking.
Interestinf stat for ISU, they have the 3rd longest streak in the nation of not giving up 30 points to an opponent.

MrBug708

09-30-2013, 07:42 PM

Dawgfan, Lathum, HR - Any of you guys coming out for what is likely the third place game between UCLA-UW?

Lathum

09-30-2013, 07:45 PM

Dawgfan, Lathum, HR - Any of you guys coming out for what is likely the third place game between UCLA-UW?

Would love to but hard to take a trip like that with 2 little ones that time of year.

I do have a deal with the wife that when we make a Rose Bowl or BCS game I am going.

dawgfan

09-30-2013, 08:27 PM

Dawgfan, Lathum, HR - Any of you guys coming out for what is likely the third place game between UCLA-UW?
Unlikely. Two little kids means not much opportunity for football road trips. I was considering coming down to the Bay Area this weekend for the Stanford game since I have an uncle in Los Altos Hills, but between work and the kids, it wasn't going to happen.

Depending on my wife's work schedule, I might make it down for a bowl game though.

Izulde

09-30-2013, 08:32 PM

Bye week for UNLV, so that's another week we're above .500.

cuervo72

09-30-2013, 08:36 PM

Bye week for UNLV

http://montco.happeningmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/fireworks-6.jpg

RainMaker

09-30-2013, 11:18 PM

Didn't see this posted.

Entire Buckeye Team Lines Up To Hug Anchor After His Daughter's Death (http://deadspin.com/entire-osu-team-lines-up-to-hug-reporter-after-his-daug-1428252946)

clemsonfan

10-01-2013, 05:25 AM

Clemson travels pretty well, from what I heard.

Yep, there's going to be a lot of Tiger fans there. I'm pretty excited about the game. I'll be there cheering on my Tigers.

Crapshoot

10-01-2013, 11:53 AM

Our secondary gives us a chance in this one. Like last year, I expect Wilcox to frequently employ cover 0 and bring as many guys into the box as he can and to run more jumbo sets with Kikaha and E. Hudson outside flanking Shelton and Lagafuaina.

Offensively, Price has and the receivers have to be on their game. I expect to see a lot of the horizontal passing game return with the rocket motions and bubble screens. Obviously if the OL can hold up at all Sark will take shots downfield to try to stretch the Tree D, but I'm expecting their front 7 to be by far the biggest test of the year. Sankey will probably have tough sledding in this one.

The big difference from last year on the Stanford side is Hogan - he's much more mobile than Nunes and can extend plays. Montgomery is playing a lot better, but their TE play has been pedestrian, which limits a lot of what they like to do.

The big difference on the Husky side is the HUNH offense - obviously Stanford has shown they can contain a hurry-up spread by limiting Oregon to 14 last year, but our version is different - the passing game is more sophisticated and we have better receivers.

I figure Stanford will win, but I think the Huskies certainly have a decent shot at pulling the upset on the road.

They've basically moved the offense away from the tight-end heavy approach this year - people keep trying to stack the box, and they keep countering it with a) one of the best lines in the nation and b) Hogan's ability to get the deep ball. If you're going to stack 8-9 in the box, you're going to leave a lot of single coverage for a long time.

dawgfan

10-01-2013, 01:46 PM

If you're going to stack 8-9 in the box, you're going to leave a lot of single coverage for a long time.
With the way his secondary has performed, I expect Wilcox to do just that.

Buccaneer

10-01-2013, 03:28 PM

Now if we can get a bye week for Iowa as well, then this thread will be readable again.

tarcone

10-01-2013, 03:33 PM

Now if we can get a bye week for Iowa as well, then this thread will be readable again.

That happens after WE beat MSU.

HeavyReign

10-01-2013, 06:09 PM

Dawgfan, Lathum, HR - Any of you guys coming out for what is likely the third place game between UCLA-UW?

I would love to go but I'm working weekends now and I don't think I'll be able to get more time off after heading to Florida next week. I actually haven't made it to a game since the USC game in 2009. Basically none of my friends are Husky fans so I only tend to make it to games if I happen to be in town at the time of the game.

Matthean

10-01-2013, 09:02 PM

Indictments handed up in UNC football scandal | abc11.com (http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/sports&id=9269488)

CU Tiger

10-01-2013, 09:42 PM

Clemson travels pretty well, from what I heard.

I know from my tailgate alone 145 folks caravaning together and staying in a couple hotels.

We are up in the air, tickets bought but now looks like my son may have a middle school game Saturday AM, if so Ill be watching on TV.

I think Clemson will bring 5-7,000 up total.

Now...I think Cuse and the points is a money making play if todays status holds true.

BishopMVP

10-02-2013, 01:27 AM

Now if we can get a bye week for Iowa as well, then this thread will be readable again.4-1

Logan

10-02-2013, 08:17 AM

FYI, I got a Living Social email offering pretty heavily discounted tickets to Syracuse-Clemson. Not sure what that means for the attendance discussed in here, and these seem like fairly higher priced seats, but I figured I'd mention it here.

Dr. Sak

10-02-2013, 08:20 AM

If anyone's bored around say...6pm this Saturday night, they can check out my game on ESPN3.com.

Chief Rum

10-02-2013, 10:16 AM

If anyone's bored around say...6pm this Saturday night, they can check out my game on ESPN3.com.

Awesome!

tarcone

10-02-2013, 03:57 PM

4-1

Stupid Northern Illinois. :)

Matthean

10-02-2013, 08:43 PM

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix of Alabama Crimson Tide suspended indefinitely for violation of team rules - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9761124/ha-ha-clinton-dix-alabama-crimson-tide-suspended-indefinitely-violation-team-rules)

Long enough time before 'Bama faces another team that could challenge them so I'm not sure how worried I would be unless what was done is serious enough for a lengthy suspension. I kind of figure either it is short term with him doing whatever he needs to do to clear things up or he would be done for the year/off the team.

BishopMVP

10-02-2013, 09:51 PM

Stupid Northern Illinois. :):)

Northern Illinois is going to be interesting to watch this year... already 4-0 with 2 BCS road wins, and only 1 team left on the schedule before the MAC championship game with a winning record (Ball State), so the path would seem to be there to get into the top 12/16 ... unless voters hold their blowout loss to FSU in the Orange Bowl against them. Fresno State is the only other non-BCS team left undefeated, and that defense just looks so shaky I think they'll lose at least one in the WAC.

Izulde

10-02-2013, 09:57 PM

:)

Northern Illinois is going to be interesting to watch this year... already 4-0 with 2 BCS road wins, and only 1 team left on the schedule before the MAC championship game with a winning record (Ball State), so the path would seem to be there to get into the top 12/16 ... unless voters hold their blowout loss to FSU in the Orange Bowl against them. Fresno State is the only other non-BCS team left undefeated, and that defense just looks so shaky I think they'll lose at least one in the WAC.

Fresno State moved to the Mountain West this year. Point still stands, though, since the MWC is a better conference.

Karlifornia

10-02-2013, 11:25 PM

Unlikely. Two little kids means not much opportunity for football road trips. I was considering coming down to the Bay Area this weekend for the Stanford game since I have an uncle in Los Altos Hills, but between work and the kids, it wasn't going to happen.

Depending on my wife's work schedule, I might make it down for a bowl game though.

Uncle in Los Altos hills? Ballin! Huskies have a chance in this one. I'd put my cash on the card, but I'm by no means writing Washington off

Matthean

10-03-2013, 12:07 AM

Bob Stoops of Oklahoma Sooners challenges SEC defenses again - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9761926/bob-stoops-oklahoma-sooners-challenges-sec-defenses-again)

Maybe if OU stopped choking in big games they might get to prove they could play against those SEC defenses. You honestly don't want to put that quote out there and suddenly find 'Bama across the field. :lol:

dawgfan

10-03-2013, 01:17 AM

Uncle in Los Altos hills? Ballin!
Yep. He and my Aunt have been in that house now for ~50 years, but they've both done well for themselves.

Huskies have a chance in this one. I'd put my cash on the card, but I'm by no means writing Washington off
It's a huge test for the Huskies. They caught Stanford at a good time last year, and may not have had the full respect of the Cardinal players entering the game. That won't be the case this time. By the same token, Washington is playing much better this year than they did last year. On paper, it should be a really good game, but there's still a nagging fear that Washington can't win a big game on the road, and the blowouts at Tucson and Eugene last year still sting.

Logan

10-03-2013, 02:46 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tuscaloosa News story says asst. strength coach had ties to an agent's rep. Loaned Clinton-Dix "an amount less than $500."</p>— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/statuses/385851856830083072">October 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>If that amount is correct, Clinton-Dix won't miss much time. But Saban has a bigger problem on his hands if he's got a runner on the staff.</p>— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/statuses/385852864863952896">October 3, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Matthean

10-03-2013, 03:32 PM

Part of the problem with having such large staffs is that it becomes easier for stuff like this to happen. If this is all true, I expect 'Bama to remove whoever needs to be removed.

RainMaker

10-03-2013, 09:54 PM

Iowa State getting totally jobbed by the refs.

Vegas Vic

10-03-2013, 09:54 PM

Iowa State is getting royally screwed by the officials.

cartman

10-03-2013, 10:04 PM

As a Texas fan, I hated that game. As a college football fan, that was entertaining as hell. Iowa State should play every home game on Thursday night. Something always seems to happen when they do so.

RainMaker

10-03-2013, 10:05 PM

As a college football fan, that was really bad for the sport.

Logan

10-03-2013, 10:06 PM

Brutal.

RainMaker

10-03-2013, 10:11 PM

The Big 12 did find a way to make themselves more irrelevant tonight though.

Matthean

10-04-2013, 12:15 AM

Suicane75

10-04-2013, 12:40 AM

Can someone explain how that wasn't a TD at the end of Utah/UCLA?

MrBug708

10-04-2013, 12:55 AM

Pilon (sp?) only matters for the ball.

Suicane75

10-04-2013, 01:25 AM

Really? Did not know that. I just assumed that touching it was as good as landing in bounds. Was a damn fun game either way, I just wish FS1 did a better job of advertising.

Vince, Pt. II

10-04-2013, 01:31 AM

Pylon, fyi.

Dr. Sak

10-04-2013, 06:53 AM

Really? Did not know that. I just assumed that touching it was as good as landing in bounds. Was a damn fun game either way, I just wish FS1 did a better job of advertising.

The goalline is extended out of bounds only if some part of the player is touching in bounds or the player touches the pylon. Where the ball is at that point determines if it has crossed the goalline.

I didn't see the play so cant comment on the play, but if the player had the ball out of bounds, crossed the goalline extended and touched the pylon with another part of his body (before landing OOB) it is a TD.

dawgfan

10-04-2013, 12:17 PM

The goalline is extended out of bounds only if some part of the player is touching in bounds or the player touches the pylon. Where the ball is at that point determines if it has crossed the goalline.

I didn't see the play so cant comment on the play, but if the player had the ball out of bounds, crossed the goalline extended and touched the pylon with another part of his body (before landing OOB) it is a TD.
The receiver caught the ball at the front corner of the end zone; his left foot knocked over the pylon and was the first point of contact down on the play. The refs got it right - he had not established a catch in bounds.

Where folks are getting confused is the ball crossing the plane. If the receiver had first caught the ball in bounds and then reached the ball over the pylon, it would have been a TD, because he would have first established a catch, and from there it's a question of the ball crossing the plane of the goal line.

panerd

10-04-2013, 07:23 PM

The Big 12 did find a way to make themselves more irrelevant tonight though.

Yep... been happening for years. Ask KU about their "loss" against the Vince Young Rose Bowl team. Texas pays the bills, Texas gets the calls.

MacroGuru

10-04-2013, 08:19 PM

Utah State more than likely loses their QB Chuckie Keeton for the season. His knee completely buckled in the 1st qtr. He was jumping to get away and landed and it just gave way.

Sucks, he is a baller...

Matthean

10-05-2013, 11:24 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV0SnzcCYAAFdYT.jpg:large

britrock88

10-05-2013, 12:14 PM

MrBug708

10-05-2013, 12:18 PM

Did Indiana get their turf from Walmart?

tarcone

10-05-2013, 12:28 PM

Its a brawl in Iowa City. Iowa goes down 10-0, then Rudock gets hot and goes 11/11 for 138 yards and 2 TDs in the 2nd quarter. Iowa up 14-10 at half.

hoopsguy

10-05-2013, 01:06 PM

Illini getting flat squashed @ Nebraska. 30-5 now. Defense isn't going to stop anyone this year, so five points in a half doesn't exactly auger well for success.

RedKingGold

10-05-2013, 01:57 PM

I love this Winston guy, can't wait to watch him on Sundays.

Matthean

10-05-2013, 01:58 PM

FSU making a mockery of Maryland. Not sure I have seen this bad of a Top 25 beat down.

Matthean

10-05-2013, 02:08 PM

Beth Mowin is helping announce the MSU/Iowa game. Offenses include calling MSU Michigan Spartans, Coleman instead of Calhoun, and a missed FG an incomplete.

larrymcg421

10-05-2013, 02:09 PM

FSU making a mockery of Maryland. Not sure I have seen this bad of a Top 25 beat down.

In 2001, the Miami Hurricanes beat #14 Syracuse 59-0 and #12 Washington 65-7 in consecutive weeks.

MrBug708

10-05-2013, 02:28 PM

UCLA beat #11 Texas 66-3 in 1997. Texas did go on to finish 4-7 on the year and it was with John Mackovic. They did have Ricky Williams however UCLA scoring 38 points in its first five possessions. There were 8 turnovers in all. It was 38-0 at halftime

Matthean

10-05-2013, 02:35 PM

General Mike

10-05-2013, 02:58 PM

Brutal.

+1

Rutgers choking life away from me.

larrymcg421

10-05-2013, 03:14 PM

Apparently Miami decided to start this game with house rules.

General Mike

10-05-2013, 03:43 PM

my heart hurts but at least Rutgers won.

tarcone

10-05-2013, 04:02 PM

MSU takes down Iowa 26-14. Half of Iowa's yards came on the two scoring drives. MSU put up points, but it was via 4 FGs with 2 TDs. With MSU not having to face OSU, they still remain the dark horse in the conference that you don't want to play.

MSUs defense is outstanding. Shut down our offense.
Of course the Iowa DBs were terrible. Made that terrible MSU QB Cook look like a Heisman candidate.

Iowa will end up 6-6, maybe 7-5 if lucky.

Matthean

10-05-2013, 04:03 PM

Minnesota trying to make up for last week. Michigan is just kind of playing. Nothing going really wrong but not a lot going right either. Gardner didn't throw a pass in the first quarter. Funchess being moved to WR is paying off. It will be interesting to see how the second half goes.

BishopMVP

10-05-2013, 04:18 PM

It could be a lot worse for your teams guys. UMass down (only!) 14-0 to Bowling Green at halftime. Our defense has actually showed up to play the past couple weeks, Unfortunately, AJ Doyle, the guy NC State etc recruited as a LB because he can't throw an accurate pass, is his usual self at QB - 3-13 for 14 yards. We've now scored 14 points in 3.5 games vs. FBS opponents.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 04:35 PM

Refs decide to try to eliminate any suspense in the UT-UGA game.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 05:03 PM

Yep, bad snap on a PAT and Miami still leads GT 24-23. A classic Tech moment right there.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 05:03 PM

Refs decide to try to eliminate any suspense in the UT-UGA game.

Or not.

17-10 UGA middle Q3

RainMaker

10-05-2013, 05:13 PM

Georgia playing way too conservative.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 05:17 PM

Blocked punt for a TD, it's all tied at 17 in Knoxville

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 05:27 PM

Hey look, Reggie Ball just threw a pick in the clutch for GT.

Vad Lee, Reggie Ball, same fucking difference.

larrymcg421

10-05-2013, 05:27 PM

As a Miami fan, I'm sure glad that Paul Johnson is still coaching at Ga Tech. The Jackets are absolutely raping Miami's defense with their run game and he's calling pass plays left and right for a QB that cannot throw the ball.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 05:28 PM

for a QB that cannot throw the ball.

That IS the "passing QB".

If I never see that half-witted moron again it'll be too soon.

(In this case I mean Lee)

Matthean

10-05-2013, 05:45 PM

Funchess ends up with 151 yards receiving. Michigan wins 42-13 even though it was closer than the score would imply. Minnesota's coaching staff really didn't try to push their team in terms of pace when they should have. Gardner still needs to work on accuracy and Michigan's D still needs work as well. Jake Ryan coming back soon will help, but the youth in the DL is showing. Michigan changed up things on offense with Lewan playing a lot of TE. I guess playing 6 OL is one way to get your running game on track.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 06:08 PM

Vols gotta get a turnover here ... it's a defense that's capable of that. And a QB that's done it before.

DEE-FENSE !

larrymcg421

10-05-2013, 06:09 PM

Looked like UGA let them score there. If so, that was the correct move in that situation.

CU Tiger

10-05-2013, 06:16 PM

Wow...back to back cardiac worthy finishes for UGA

CU Tiger

10-05-2013, 06:18 PM

So much for tie at home win on the road

CU Tiger

10-05-2013, 06:27 PM

UT Gagged there...stupid stupid play

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 06:31 PM

Some bad calls today, that one was correct. Howard is the only real threat on the roster, he tried to make a play and it just didn't work out.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 06:33 PM

Heartbroken, truly heartsick, but damned proud of the effort for the first time in quite a while.

Buccaneer

10-05-2013, 06:40 PM

I'm glad that instant replay got the call right, he clearly lost possession a half a yard before the line.

miked

10-05-2013, 07:00 PM

I didn't think there could be a worse game day coach than Greg Schiano. Now I know his name is Kyle Flood. What a horrible display from Rutgers playing a shitty team and blowing a 21 point 4th quarter lead. That series right before halftime summed up his shitiness.

Julio Riddols

10-05-2013, 07:25 PM

They're gonna have to rename the Heisman Trophy the Winston Cup.

tarcone

10-05-2013, 07:34 PM

I would love to see Baylor vs. Oregon.

That might end up 100-98.

Swaggs

10-05-2013, 07:53 PM

Baylor is putting a Tecmo Bowl style beating on us.

tarcone

10-05-2013, 08:05 PM

Baylor is just plain fast. On both sides of the ball.

MizzouRah

10-05-2013, 08:08 PM

Thank goodness for ESPN 3. Mizzou getting some payback so far tonight.

JPhillips

10-05-2013, 08:24 PM

The OSU fake punt really seemed desperate.

tarcone

10-05-2013, 08:25 PM

Stat of the day: Iowa has been unsuccessful in stopping the last 7 fake punts run against them. This is since 2010.
If an opposing team doesnt run a fake punt against us, they are stupid.

Jas_lov

10-05-2013, 08:31 PM

Really stupid fake punt attempt. Then Meyer lets over a minute wind off the clock when he's sitting there with all 3 timeouts.

Wolfpack

10-05-2013, 08:54 PM

Death. Taxes. State losing at Wake Forest. *sigh* :(

Jon

10-05-2013, 09:16 PM

my heart hurts but at least Rutgers won.

I didn't see the whole thing, we went on a whale watching trip in Friday Harbor, WA and saw some great orcas and some humpbacks.

Sounds like it was a good thing we stopped watching at 21-0.

Matthean

10-05-2013, 09:20 PM

Looks like a complete mental no-show by OSU. Miller doesn't even look like he cares. I could see NW winning tonight, and OSU winning the Big Ten title game.

Lathum

10-05-2013, 09:28 PM

Really fired up for the biggest UW game since I went there and of course it is pouring here in Ohio and I have no satellite signal.

Lathum

10-05-2013, 09:37 PM

just got my signal back, wish I hadnt

Matthean

10-05-2013, 09:44 PM

If I'm OSU, I would use Hyde as much as possible because he's been the one guy NW has had issues with all game long.

HerRealName

10-05-2013, 10:01 PM

If I'm OSU, I would use Hyde as much as possible because he's been the one guy NW has had issues with all game long.

Agreed but he also looks completely out of shape.

Lathum

10-05-2013, 10:05 PM

Jesus Christ with the flags.

MrBug708

10-05-2013, 10:14 PM

Brian Kelly is a dumb coach

EagleFan

10-05-2013, 10:30 PM

Northwestern got screwed on a bad spot but the replay became inconclusive so they couldn't overturn the spot. Though it was a screwed up play from the start.

RainMaker

10-05-2013, 10:39 PM

Did OSU get flagged tonight?

RainMaker

10-05-2013, 10:40 PM

That spot was also pathetic and BCS conferences are making fools of themselves. Big 12 Thursday and Big 10 tonight.

mckerney

10-05-2013, 10:42 PM

Baylor is just plain fast. On both sides of the ball.

Wow, just saw that coming into this week they have the #1 passing offense and #4 rushing offense, keeping it up with 396 passing yards and 439 rushing with 5 minutes to go tonight.

JonInMiddleGA

10-05-2013, 10:45 PM

Did OSU get flagged tonight?

espn box score says 1-10 (NW 4-42)

Matthean

10-05-2013, 10:46 PM

Did OSU get flagged tonight?

Once for 10 yards. NW's seem to all come at horrible spots even though there were only four of them.

Lathum

10-05-2013, 10:58 PM

Inexcusable to give up a td there.

Kodos

10-05-2013, 10:58 PM

Huge win for Indiana today. We need more performances like this if we want to make a bowl this year. Nice to get the PSU monkey off of our back, even if it was a weakened monkey.

EagleFan

10-05-2013, 11:00 PM

That spot was also pathetic and BCS conferences are making fools of themselves. Big 12 Thursday and Big 10 tonight.

One ref came in with what looked like a more accurate spot and the one at the top overruled him it seems. I see either two possible spots for that play. Either where the ref from the bottom of the screen was coming in (still would have needed a measurement) or behind the line if the ref thought his knee was down when his picked up the ball (which it wasn't). I don't get the halfway in between spot. You can see on the shot from behind the play that he gets beyond where the spot was marked.

EagleFan

10-05-2013, 11:07 PM

The problem with the Iowa State call was that by the time you see the defender with the ball the runner's knee was already down for a bit. Not saying that it was or wasn't a fumble but there is no way seeing on replay when the defender got the ball from the runner. That is entirely covered and by the time he turns with the ball the runner's knee had been down for a moment. No matter how that was called on the field it wouldn't have been overturned.

Unless there is an angle that I didn't get to see yet.

Matthean

10-05-2013, 11:09 PM

Huge win for Indiana today. We need more performances like this if we want to make a bowl this year. Nice to get the PSU monkey off of our back, even if it was a weakened monkey.

One of the most surprising scores I saw today.

Mizzou B-ball fan

10-05-2013, 11:18 PM

Mizzou's big win at Vandy sets up a very interesting matchup against a Georgia team who barely survived this week and will likely be missing its top two RB's for the game. Definitely still GA's to lose and an opportunity game for Mizzou. Wouldn't be surprised to see Mizzou ranked next week as well.

Solecismic

10-06-2013, 02:51 AM

Some Michigan numbers...

This will be Brady Hoke's 32nd game as head coach of Michigan. He is 24-7, including 18-0 at Michigan Stadium (5-5 on the road, 1-2 on neutral sites).

Rich Rodriguez was 15-22, and only 11-11 at home.

If the Wolverines score nine points or more at Penn State, Hoke's teams will, in 32 games, have scored more than Rodriguez's teams scored in 37 games. If the Wolverines allow 555 points or more at Penn State, you could say the same about the defense.

Despite this week's results, I think Penn State is solid - run defense seems to be a big strength, which means Devin Gardner will have to throw. Gardner took care of the ball today, but was tied for the FBS lead in turnovers going into the game. I think it'll be a nail-biter either way next week.

Lathum

10-06-2013, 06:35 AM

JonInMiddleGA

10-06-2013, 07:15 AM

Mizzou's big win at Vandy sets up a very interesting matchup against a Georgia team who barely survived this week and will likely be missing its top two RB's for the game.

FWIW, Gurley is 50-50 for next week according to Richt

Mizzou B-ball fan

10-06-2013, 07:39 AM

FWIW, Gurley is 50-50 for next week according to Richt

I'm more worried about which defensive players Richt has already trained to fake injuries.

JonInMiddleGA

10-06-2013, 09:18 AM

I'm more worried about which defensive players Richt has already trained to fake injuries.

The offensive guys can probably help 'em with that ;)

And before anybody thinks I'm making too light of the legit injuries UGA suffered yesterday, you'd have to consider the amount of mindless blather I've seen about how it was all part of some master plan designed by the Tennessee players/staff.

Of the three major injuries to the Georgia offense yesterday, one guy pulled up lame on special teams while running alone, another had already hurt his knee in practice earlier in the week and the worst was a fluke where he got bumped around the waist & his foot caught in the turf at just the wrong moment, with both guys reaching for an errant pass. If anybody in Knoxville was able to plan for that then they need to be picking my lottery numbers next week.

JonInMiddleGA

10-06-2013, 09:25 AM

from an espn.com article which spelled out something I hadn't really thought about quite so clearly

since starting its long winning streak in Meyer's debut last season, OSU hasn't faced a team ranked higher than the Wildcats.

Logan

10-06-2013, 09:33 AM

My Rutgers frustration not withstanding, this was a pretty good weekend of college football.

cuervo72

10-06-2013, 09:38 AM

from an espn.com article which spelled out something I hadn't really thought about quite so clearly

And yet they still may very well play in the BCS Champ. (Go Oregon.)

Julio Riddols

10-06-2013, 10:13 AM

JPhillips

10-06-2013, 10:23 AM

And yet they still may very well play in the BCS Champ. (Go Oregon.)

It's possible, but doubtful. I imagine if any of Oregon, Stanford, Clemson, Florida State are unbeaten they would play in the national championship over an undefeated OSU.

I'm just assuming Alabama is in the game.

Matthean

10-06-2013, 10:25 AM

from an espn.com article which spelled out something I hadn't really thought about quite so clearly

NW's toughest team up to that point has been either Syracuse or Maine. I'm not sure NW is really a Top 15 team when it is all said and done. Michigan is the only team in the conference who has the raw talent to beat OSU, but I don't trust parts of Michigan enough yet to think they could beat OSU on an even basis. I think I had OSU around #6-#7 in my head and maybe at worst #10. Last night's game changed little of that.

Matthean

10-06-2013, 10:40 AM

It's possible, but doubtful. I imagine if any of Oregon, Stanford, Clemson, Florida State are unbeaten they would play in the national championship over an undefeated OSU.

I'm just assuming Alabama is in the game.

Best case scenario for OSU is Michigan has one loss when they play and then OSU plays a one loss MSU in the conference title game. If there are two undefeated teams coming from the SEC, ACC, or Pac-12, OSU is getting screwed. The Big Ten's OOC W-L record isn't helping them.

JonInMiddleGA

10-06-2013, 10:46 AM

Does anyone else think Clowney is being coached by someone to play like shit this year so he drops in the draft? Sitting out a game with bruised ribs would basically take him off my board. I almost wonder if he even really wants to play football.

I don't know if that's exactly what I'm thinking, but there's almost got to be something going on.

I keep thinking that he looks like a guy trying to play through/recover from an illness (I believe I said that after week one) but now, honestly ... it's hard for me not to wonder if the problem(s) are more chemical than physical.

panerd

10-06-2013, 10:50 AM

Does anyone else think Clowney is being coached by someone to play like shit this year so he drops in the draft? Sitting out a game with bruised ribs would basically take him off my board. I almost wonder if he even really wants to play football.

Maybe he doesn't want to play for Jacksonville. Seems like it would be better to go the Eli Manning route and act like a little bitch until they trade you to a big market team vs. tanking your season. Though I will admit a multi-million dollar payday vs risking a serious inury against Kentucky isn't as cut and dry as us arm-chair quarterbacks like to claim.

Matthean

10-06-2013, 11:12 AM

I don't think it is safe to assume he would go to the Jaguars. If I was a fan and they didn't draft a QB, there would be rioting. :D

Julio Riddols

10-06-2013, 11:56 AM

Yeah, the Jags need a QB more than anything. Probably a coach too, because there's no explanation for them being so much worse this year than they were last year.

From my armchair QB point of view though, I wouldn't want a player on my team that doesn't want to play no matter what. Protecting yourself against injuries? Does he have nothing else he can do if he doesn't make it as a football player? Is he going to sit out all the other games with minor ailments for fear of injury? Fact is the kid has played like an average college DE this year, ailments or not.

Is he going to avoid playing his first 3 years in the pros too so he doesn't miss out on the big payday he is apparently saving himself for?

Crapshoot

10-06-2013, 12:48 PM

I decided to play a drinking game called do a shot every time they show Bishop Sankeys grandfather. Needless to say I was hammered by the half.

Just woke up and watched the second half and man am I sick. We had a real chance to win that game but way to many mistakes. The special teams play was terrible leading directly to 2 touchdowns.. giving up a score with 11 seconds left in the half is an inexcusable mental breakdown.

I think we had the defense on the ropes the whole second half. I hated a couple of Sarks play calls. Most noticeably after the fake punt he called a sweep to the right. I think you have to go downfield there. They just forced the defemse back to the field and I think you need to test themin the spot. Not a fan of the call on the call near the goal line where price threw the pick. I think you run with Sankeys there. He had been running well and at the very least you need 2 scores and you. Settle for the field goal.

The reverse call at the end there was dreadful. With the call on the field as complete I don't see how there is evidence to overrule that. Guess the PAC 12 wants to make sure they preserve an undefeated matchup with Oregon and Stanford.

Eh, great game, but that ball bounced - shit call in the first place, and UW got a couple of those earlier as well (the Williams catch that lead to a touchdown). You've got no scope to complain on that.

Overall, UW looked very good while hogan couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. Also, david shaw is more god man conservative than Ted Cruz - so damn predictable; and yet he couldn't figure out that UW kept running that Goldman bubble screen again and again and again. Price looked very good to me. Great atmosphere at the stadium overall though.

tarcone

10-06-2013, 01:10 PM

Im really hoping for a Baylor-Oregon championship game. They would outscore a Baylor-Oregon basketball game.

IMO, Clowney has read too much about himself. He isnt interested in college football. He thinks he is a high pick. And he probably is despite his antics this season. He looks to me like he is biding his time until he can cash the big paycheck. And trying not to blow out a knee or bang his head.

ISiddiqui

10-06-2013, 02:57 PM

Florida State vs. Oregon would be quite a barnburner as well.

Solecismic

10-06-2013, 03:56 PM

IMO, Clowney has read too much about himself. He isnt interested in college football. He thinks he is a high pick. And he probably is despite his antics this season. He looks to me like he is biding his time until he can cash the big paycheck. And trying not to blow out a knee or bang his head.

Clowney may be taking it too far, but I think coaches and fans need to adjust to the concept that football players are beginning to think of themselves as shareholders in their own corporations rather than workers in others' corporations.

Slowly, uncomfortably, I'm beginning to realize that my views of the world are getting a little old and inflexible and kids 30 years younger are a little different from what I was 30 years ago.

I am certain there are many 20-year-old boys who find Miley Cyrus quite sexy and daring. Surely a sign of a coming apocalypse?

Vegas Vic

10-06-2013, 04:35 PM

Death. Taxes. State losing at Wake Forest. *sigh* :(

Starting QB Brandon Mitchell needs to get back into the lineup ASAP. I understand he's likely to return this week vs. Syracuse. The Wolfpack is going nowhere with Pete Thomas at the helm.

dawgfan

10-06-2013, 05:30 PM

Eh, great game, but that ball bounced - shit call in the first place, and UW got a couple of those earlier as well (the Williams catch that lead to a touchdown). You've got no scope to complain on that.
Uh, I dunno what game you were watching, but there was nothing BS about that Williams call. Don't even get me started on the officiating in this game, especially if you're trying to say Washington didn't get screwed: The non-existent hands to the face that was called against Kikaha, the absolute bullshit personal foul call on Darrell Daniels on the Washington punt return, not tossing the Stanford defender for targeting Keith Price after the play had been whistled dead and he dove helmet first at Price, the multiple non-calls on obvious Stanford holds.

As for the Smith catch/overruling, I think he probably trapped it, but unless there was an angle ESPN didn't show, there wasn't conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field.

Overall, UW looked very good while hogan couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
Maybe the fact that Washington is 3rd in the country in pass defense (both pass efficiency and yardage) had something to do with that?

JonInMiddleGA

10-06-2013, 06:05 PM

UGA injury update this evening from CMR: RB Marshall & WR Scott-Wesley done for the season, both have torn ACL's. WR Bennett will be scoped to determine the extent of his knee injury.

Crapshoot

10-06-2013, 06:18 PM

Uh, I dunno what game you were watching, but there was nothing BS about that Williams call. Don't even get me started on the officiating in this game, especially if you're trying to say Washington didn't get screwed: The non-existent hands to the face that was called against Kikaha, the absolute bullshit personal foul call on Darrell Daniels on the Washington punt return, not tossing the Stanford defender for targeting Keith Price after the play had been whistled dead and he dove helmet first at Price, the multiple non-calls on obvious Stanford holds.

As for the Smith catch/overruling, I think he probably trapped it, but unless there was an angle ESPN didn't show, there wasn't conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field.

Maybe the fact that Washington is 3rd in the country in pass defense (both pass efficiency and yardage) had something to do with that?

Yeah, we are not going to agree on the refs - UW got plenty of breaks from my view. :D I did think Sark's line about faking injuries was bullshit - Shane Skov is the best player on that Stanford defense - you think he wants to miss a play by faking an injury? That seemed extraordinarily low class. Again, UW looked amazing (as I lead with). Also, someone out to explain to David Shaw what a bubble screen is.

CU Tiger

10-06-2013, 07:42 PM

I'm on a phone, so I ain't typing a book. But I've got a friend who is affiliated with the SC football program (think equipment guy not coach) he tells lots of crazy tales...and he's about 50-50 sometimes he calls crazy things,and sometimes he spews shit...
Anyway, he was insistent all summer that Clowney was dividing the team. Refusing to work out. Challenging coaches to their face reportedly telling DC Ward at one point "MF'er you can't make me do shit and if you keep it up I'll kick your ass in front of everyone out here"...at this point Ward wanted to suspend or kick him off them team and Spurrier told Ward to shut up or he would be the one off the team.

It's very possible if all that is true, and I have no clue if it is or not, Clowney could be so out of shape he isn't capable of more.

Great great talent, but I question his work ethic.

Karlifornia

10-07-2013, 12:12 AM

Washington outplayed Stanford. Stanford is lucky to have come out with a W. I actually feel sick for udub fans. Their team played a great game.

dawgfan

10-07-2013, 01:54 AM

Washington outplayed Stanford. Stanford is lucky to have come out with a W. I actually feel sick for udub fans. Their team played a great game.
Great in two of the three phases, but the Huskies were just awful in kickoffs/kickoff coverage, and ultimately that's what cost them the game. Ty Montogmery is a helluva kick returner, no doubt, so he deserves some credit there. But the Huskies didn't even make him work on that opening kickoff return TD - terrible job by them of filling lanes. And they weren't much better on the 68 yard return that set up Stanford's final TD.

Butter

10-07-2013, 06:43 AM

That pass completion overturn at the end was awful. I saw it last night and have no idea how you can say that was conclusive about anything, unless there was another angle we didn't get to see.

HerRealName

10-07-2013, 10:34 AM

BishopMVP

10-07-2013, 02:20 PM

I just saw a couple of interesting photos of that controversial 4th and 1 play in the Northwestern and Ohio State game. On the overhead camera positioned behind the play, the yellow first down line was a full yard off. It should have been drawn at the 33 yard line but it was rendered at the 34 yard line instead. The sideline angle had the yellow line positioned correctly. I know that line is inexact but I didn't know it was possible for it to be in a different location depending on the camera.We picked up on that during the replay review. On that overhead angle where it looked obvious NW made it the center was snapping the ball over half a yard in front of the yellow line. Overall, I leaned towards him barely getting it, but there was no angle to overturn the spot on the field.

dawgfan

10-07-2013, 02:37 PM

That pass completion overturn at the end was awful. I saw it last night and have no idea how you can say that was conclusive about anything, unless there was another angle we didn't get to see.
While I think it was a trap, I also don't see how the evidence presented was conclusive enough to overturn the call on the field. And it really stings that it was a situation that effectively ended the game.

Larry Scott still has a lot of work to do improving the officiating situation in the Pac-12.

HomerSimpson98

10-07-2013, 02:43 PM

Really impressed with Fitzgerald as a coach, but I'm not sure how high the ceiling can go at a place like Northwestern. tOSU has 10x the athletes that NW did, especially in the trenches. Seems like at every snap the LOS was being moved 2-3 yards in Buckeye direction. I cant believe they hung as tight as they did.

Matthean

10-07-2013, 03:39 PM

NW basically has to play a perfect game, which they almost did, and OSU have a subpar game, which they kind of did. Being at NW obviously helps. They just don't have the talent pool to be a top tier team. You could see the sheer difference in size and knew that was going to play a factor as the game wore on. They may just have to continue to build it and eventually get more and more kids to go there. Right now if you are a kid in the Chicago area, NW is at best 4th on your list with ND, OSU, and Michigan close by. It would help if they could get a signature win or two so they can say, "See, we can beat those guys" and sell that to recruits. In terms of Big Ten gameday staffs, I would put NW in the Top 3 with OSU and MSU.

mckerney

10-07-2013, 03:54 PM

While I think it was a trap, I also don't see how the evidence presented was conclusive enough to overturn the call on the field. And it really stings that it was a situation that effectively ended the game.

Larry Scott still has a lot of work to do improving the officiating situation in the Pac-12.

The solution is to put Glasses Ref (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saiRqfll9VE&feature=youtu.be&t=3m20s) in charge of Pac-12 officiating and have him ref as many games as possible. With Thursday night games, really and late kickoffs he could probably work 3 games each week of the season.