2014 TV show thread

[Easy Mac]

I figure we can start a new thread, since the last post in the prior thread was on 12/31.

Did anyone else watch The Assets on ABC? The critics have seemed to go out of their way to say it's not horrible, but I just don't see it. The acting was atrocious, the sets felt thrown together, and the editing was just odd. It didn't feel like scenes had any natural flow or that the characters were real people. I started watching Orphan Black today, and in comparison The Assets just seemed amateurish.

I was hoping this would tide me over until The Americans came back, but I don't see that happening.

[Thomkal]

I watched the first episode-I went in "blind"-had not seen previews just knew it was about the CIA and espionage. Did not realize it was based on real events. I thought it was okay, but won't be watching future episodes. Acting wasn't bad-other than perhaps the advisor? mentor? to the lead female character. Not great acting either.

I think they tried to show they were real people especially with the female lead-the scenes with her family where she had to keep them separate from her work life-overhearing her daughter on the phone about how terrible a mother she was, etc. It was the first hours of a short run series so I'm not sure we'll see much attempt beyond the female lead to show them as "real people"-viewers will be more interested in the traitor and espionage scenes anyway.

It was pretty interesting see how far we've come technologically since the 80's when this show is set in-we'd be doing things far far differently today in the same situation with all the technology available for intelligence agencies to use.

[BishopMVP]

Justified returns Tuesday night, with more Crowe's, more Wynn Duffy, and generally amazing reviews of its first few episodes.

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And Archer returns the 13th.

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If you're looking for new shows, idk, I'm probably just a sucker for the genre, but Michael Bay is producing a "prequel" series to Treasure Island. It should be... interesting at least. Premieres on Starz on the 25th. There's also a new SyFy show called Helix coming the 10th getting pretty favorable reviews.

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[Radii]

Justified returns Tuesday night, with more Crowe's, more Wynn Duffy, and generally amazing reviews of its first few episodes.

Seeing Boyd and Wynn Duffy together multiple times in that preview has me really excited.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah - Black Sailz looks like it could be fun. If it's "Spartacus-style Pirates" I'll enjoy it. Anything more is total gravy AFAIC.

Helix is something they've been promoting the hell out of - looking forward to seeing if it holds up to their hype.

[jeff061]

2 new shows on my radar are Helix on SyFy and True Detective on HBO.

[MrBug708]

Downton Abbey comes back tonight

[korme]

Looking forward to True Detective.

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[DanGarion]

I figure we can start a new thread, since the last post in the prior thread was on 12/31.

Did anyone else watch The Assets on ABC? The critics have seemed to go out of their way to say it's not horrible, but I just don't see it. The acting was atrocious, the sets felt thrown together, and the editing was just odd. It didn't feel like scenes had any natural flow or that the characters were real people. I started watching Orphan Black today, and in comparison The Assets just seemed amateurish.

I was hoping this would tide me over until The Americans came back, but I don't see that happening.

I wasn't a big fan of it. I will watch another episode just to be sure though...

[Draft Dodger]

Looking forward to True Detective.

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I look forward to my wife being horny after watching Matthew McConnaghey in a cop show

[Easy Mac]

I look forward to my wife being horny after watching Matthew McConnaghey in a cop show

Is it sad that I pick movies on the weekend based on the percent chance that they could make my wife horny?

[DaddyTorgo]

Is it sad that I pick movies on the weekend based on the percent chance that they could make my wife horny?

I think it's pretty smart actually!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Is it sad that I pick movies on the weekend based on the percent chance that they could make my wife horny?

Sad? {shrug}

But it definitely ain't unique ;)

[Draft Dodger]

all I'm saying was Magic Mike was such a letdown in that department...but at least Olivia Munn

[sabotai]

I've been watching "Betas", an exclusive on Amazon (free to those that have Amazon Prime). It's about a group of people trying to make a social app start up. Has all the usual geek cliches, but I'm enjoying it so far for what it is.

I tried watching Alpha House, but I turned it off half way through the first episode.

Also through Amazon Prime, I've been watching a lot of Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations. I started watching his show on CNN (Parts Unknown), so I've been watching No Reservations (which was for the Travel Channel) on Amazon. Really great shows (both shows are exactly the same, mostly travel + food).

Really looking forward to the second season of House of Cards (Feb 14th, that weekend is bookmarked for some binge watching).

[PilotMan]

Last night CNN ran a documentary called Sole Survivor. You may have seen the ads for it, and it'll run one more time before it eventually moves to Netflix.

I'm watching it right now and it's very emotional for me. One of the stories contained is the Comair crash in Lexington and the story of the surviving first officer. I wasn't working the morning of the crash, but I was a first officer at Comair at the time, but not on that particular plane, and although I didn't know either pilot personally I had flown with the flight attendant. I had flown in and out of LEX prior to and after the crash. I knew some of what they were up against that morning.

The crash was very personal for all of us. It wasn't a huge, huge company, and there were a lot of ancillary issues to the industry that were going on at the time too. We tried to support the families of the crews as much as we could, but what can you really do?

Anyway, if you find yourself watching this understand how close to home it hits for me.

[OldGiants]

Seeing Boyd and Wynn Duffy together multiple times in that preview has me really excited.

Off to a great start. They keep taking second bananas from second tier comedies and turning them into great villains. Jere Burns as Wynn Duffy (and on Burn Notice, too) is great. Last year I had my doubts about Mike O'Malley, but he was outstanding as Nick Augustine. So I have high hopes for Dave Foley and Will Sasso as Canadian drug dealers.

Justified seems written by Neal Stephenson in a good way: lots of details that are very right. This episode had the Jamaican kid (yet another second banana from a one and done comedy) denying he was gator poaching. Then as Raylon leaves, a gator leaps up to grab the bait and hangs there. Also Raylon shooting Dewey's plastic pool.

[Johnny93g]

Season 4 of Shameless starts on Sunday. I'll be watching that obviously, as I love it WAY to much.

Also the new drama True Detectives starts on Sunday at the same time. PVR that thing, because i got very high hopes. McConaughey and Harrelson are great, and I love Michelle Monaghan.

[Thomkal]

Syfy is FINALLY showing the premiere of Helix tonight at 10pm EST-an hour and a half debut. I've tried to stay away from the hype and spoilers because I want to be surprised by it-what little I've seen has me doubting it will be very good though-especially if Zombies are involved

[Draft Dodger]

Off to a great start. They keep taking second bananas from second tier comedies and turning them into great villains. Jere Burns as Wynn Duffy (and on Burn Notice, too) is great. Last year I had my doubts about Mike O'Malley, but he was outstanding as Nick Augustine. So I have high hopes for Dave Foley and Will Sasso as Canadian drug dealers.


I thought Foley was noticeably awful in his one scene, but the others have been terrific as you point out, so maybe he'll turn around.

[Cork]

Downton Abbey comes back tonight

My wife and I are also big fans of Downton Abbey. We are going to try to watch the season premier this weekend.

[DaddyTorgo]

Helix anyone?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Helix anyone?

Don't mind if I do :D
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[Thomkal]

Helix anyone?

I watched it, need to see more with where they are going with the retrovirus before deciding whether I like it or not. Right now leaning towards not.

[DaddyTorgo]

I watched it, need to see more with where they are going with the retrovirus before deciding whether I like it or not. Right now leaning towards not.

it's definitely alien in origin (or just an ancient sentient lifeform) or something like that, because it has that like...intelligence.

[JetsIn06]

Watched Helix. I give it a 7/10 thus far. But based on the previews for the season, I think I'll really like where they end up going with the story.

Really though, I don't feel anything for any of the characters yet, so hopefully that gets better as the season moves on. I'll definitely give it a shot for a whole season though.

[DaddyTorgo]

Think this from an EW article, is a pretty good guess as to where the series is going.





Right now seems like a perfect time to come up with a Ridiculously Early Helix Theory. Let’s run down what we know:


-When the virus takes over a person/monkey/mouse, it turns the carrier into a superhuman/monkey/mouse, with one apparent purpose: Pass the virus along to another being via mouth-to-mouth regurgitation.
-Carriers of the virus have spasming throats, almost as if some mysterious thing is inside of there.
-Young and ridiculously overqualified doctor Sarah Jordan announces that it’s a super-small virus, so it might be/is probably very ancient.
-Major Balleseros is sending mysterious messages via satellite. He also tells Hatake: “The people you and I work for aren’t happy, and now I have to clean up your mess.” He also kills a scientist who is trying to escape. Props to Mark Ghanime, who in the first two hours of the show lies to everyone and kills somebody and really for all we know is the most evil person, and still turns his character into the most charming person on the show.
-There’s a White Room somewhere.
-Hatake has an album filled with pictures of Julia.
-Hatake’s eyes look weird.


Given all of that, here’s my theory. The virus isn’t just an ancient disease. It’s actually an ancient species, molecule-sized living beings who used to dominate the world. Millions of years ago, the combination of continental drift and the whole meteor-that-killed-the-dinosaurs thing banished them deep beneath the surface of the Arctic ice. This species functions as a collective — that’s why one infected scientist keeps referring to herself as “we” — and although they have no real physical form, they can take over other physical forms and symbiotically supercharge them.

Having discovered this virus, Arctic Biosystems is attempting to weaponize it for those mysterious people that Balleseros and Hatake work for. Let’s say, for the sake of argument and transgressive sci-fi pulpiness, that it actually is the American Government, working to develop biological weapons. (Drones are so 2013.) Arctic Biosystems performed their experiments in some deep subterranean corner of their research facility, called the White Room. Unbeknownst to anyone, however, Hatake has been infected by a different virus: A kind of counter-agent, a different molecule-species from millions of years ago, the yin to the evil virus’ yang. (This is why Hatake’s eyes are pale, while the bad virus is black.) We’re going to think he’s a bad guy for like half the season, but his ultimate end goal is to defeat the bad virus. Yes, he was introduced happily describing the viral infection as “progress,” but that was just theater, because his security enforcer has already been infected with the bad virus. For whatever reason — something to do with her father, briefly mentioned? — Julia is the key to Hatake’s plan.

So, in conclusion, Helix is about molecular angels fighting molecular devils.

[RainMaker]

Anyone seen the new show Intelligence? Been waiting for something new with Sawyer in it.

[Alan T]

Anyone seen the new show Intelligence? Been waiting for something new with Sawyer in it.


I saw the first episode and thought it was alright. I really like the actor/character, so hoping the show takes off. We'll see how it goes in future weeks I suppose

[Thomkal]

I saw the first episode and thought it was alright. I really like the actor/character, so hoping the show takes off. We'll see how it goes in future weeks I suppose


Pretty much what I thought-good actors cast-especially John Billingsley and Rosalind Chao (Chinese Intelligence Chief) in a more serious role for them. The twist at the end with the Chinese woman was nice. I suspect though that the Chinese govt won't allow the show to be seen there :) I did think it was way to early to reveal the truth about the lead character's wife though-would have liked to play the search for the truth play out a bit more.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The first episode of "True Detective" was great.

I feel like there have been quite a few gruesome "cops on the trail of a serial killer" shows the last couple of years - quite a few indeed - (in fact, some aspects of the murders in the show feel like they were taken directly out of the first season of "Hannibal") but I enjoyed it.

Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey did not disappoint.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I watched "Helix" last night.

I will keep with it for a while, but I wasn't that impressed overall.

There was just too much stupidity by people who are supposed to be professional, very, very smart PHD-level professionals:

For example:



1. The sassy blonde very scientist. She finds out that they are lying about having monkeys. She heads down to where they used to keep the monkeys and finds it all torn to shit. She then sees a plainly crazy-ass looking monkey. Does she proceed with caution? Does she report back? Does she set up a quarantine? No. She approaches it - face first - cooing and saying "Come here little guy..."

After the crazy-ass monkey attacks her and is killed, she decides to set up shop and do a quick autopsy of this crazy ass monkey in the dim, dark monkey chamber.

Does she report back to her team to tell them what happened? Do they report back to her about the fact that the dude's crazy-ass infected brother is on the loose? Nope. Despite all of this weird, potentially lethal shit going on, they never communicate until she just shows back up at the main area, infected woman in tow.

2. There has to be a better way of dealing with the infected dude in the air ducts than sending one or two people up there alone. They keep talking about "security teams." Use them.

3. The crazy infected guy is still on the loose. He has already attacked and infected 3-5 people. What precautions do they take? None really. They are all off by themselves. The one woman decides to take a shower - by herself - because, hey, it's not like that crazy infected guy is on the loose or anything.

4. Those three infected doctors take the one young PHD woman hostage, some how they give that up when the one dude takes off his suit. Then, everyone seems to think that everything's cool because of that one act, until, of course, the infected doctors strike again.

I have no issue with the infection. It is potentially very interesting. They just seem to be creating tension by making people who are supposed to be highly trained and very smart acting very stupid. I had similar issues with "Prometheus."

[Julio Riddols]

I feel like 95% of the non comedic shows on tv now feature people doing absolutely bone headed things in order to advance a plot. I get more enjoyment out of Octonauts.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I feel like 95% of the non comedic shows on tv now feature people doing absolutely bone headed things in order to advance a plot. I get more enjoyment out of Octonauts.

This is true. I am comfortable with it up to a point. I guess in "Helix" it just seemed more egregious as a result of how bonehead the actions were, the threat level and how trained/educated/professional these people are supposed to be.

[Thomkal]

I watched "Helix" last night.

I will keep with it for a while, but I wasn't that impressed overall.

There was just too much stupidity by people who are supposed to be professional, very, very smart PHD-level professionals:

For example:



1. The sassy blonde very scientist. She finds out that they are lying about having monkeys. She heads down to where they used to keep the monkeys and finds it all torn to shit. She then sees a plainly crazy-ass looking monkey. Does she proceed with caution? Does she report back? Does she set up a quarantine? No. She approaches it - face first - cooing and saying "Come here little guy..."

After the crazy-ass monkey attacks her and is killed, she decides to set up shop and do a quick autopsy of this crazy ass monkey in the dim, dark monkey chamber.

Does she report back to her team to tell them what happened? Do they report back to her about the fact that the dude's crazy-ass infected brother is on the loose? Nope. Despite all of this weird, potentially lethal shit going on, they never communicate until she just shows back up at the main area, infected woman in tow.

2. There has to be a better way of dealing with the infected dude in the air ducts than sending one or two people up there alone. They keep talking about "security teams." Use them.

3. The crazy infected guy is still on the loose. He has already attacked and infected 3-5 people. What precautions do they take? None really. They are all off by themselves. The one woman decides to take a shower - by herself - because, hey, it's not like that crazy infected guy is on the loose or anything.

4. Those three infected doctors take the one young PHD woman hostage, some how they give that up when the one dude takes off his suit. Then, everyone seems to think that everything's cool because of that one act, until, of course, the infected doctors strike again.

I have no issue with the infection. It is potentially very interesting. They just seem to be creating tension by making people who are supposed to be highly trained and very smart acting very stupid. I had similar issues with "Prometheus."




I strongly agree with #1 and #3. I couldn't believe it when after being told there were no monkeys on the base, finding that there was, and then taking no precautions before going to find them. No clean suits, nothing. I mean they already lied about the monkeys and having total access to the base, so hey maybe they and the lab you found them in was actually infected and maybe you should check for that before you do anything else?

#3 Yeah I agree-after the lead doctor told them to buddy up before going anywhere, there was the doctor in the shower alone for the gratuitious nudity shot, then of course she was attacked.

#2 I don't have as much problem with-there are only 100+ people at the base, a small number seem to be security people. So they don't have a big team I'm guessing. But they are going to run in problems in general as the show goes on-something Haven has run into in its latest season-there are only so many people you can kill off-because there are just not that many people there-deaths should not be frequent especially amongst the remaining security people. If that knockout gas didn't actually work, they are pretty much defenseless too it sounds like. Need to find something that works quickly or they as good as dead I think.

#4-the lead doctors at the time didn't know the scope of the infection in those three infected-and had told the young woman doctor a few times they didn't like she had her suit on-so I thought it was conceivable they thought all was relatively calm again when the lead doctor took off his suit to gain their trust. There should have been more security there after that though I think.

[cartman]

Glad to see Les Stroud has new episodes of Survivorman out. The one last night in Tierra del Fuego was about the worst I've ever seen him get. He was thoroughly beaten down.

[sterlingice]

The Rabbids cartoon on Nick after Ninja Turtles is odd and has a European feel to it with a lot of physical comedy and crude humor and very little dialog. But it's kindof fun, if you're in a dumb and weird mood.

SI

[Easy Mac]

Can they get anymore guest stars on Justified? Avon Varksdale, Newsradio, the black guy from The Practice, probable Emmy winner Michael Rappaport

[Radii]

Yeah Justified has been nuts with the guest stars the first couple weeks. I dunno if Rappaport is supposed to be the big bad this season or not, but if so, they haven't done a very good job yet of introducing him. It doesn't matter, its Justified, it will end up awesome, but its felt like a slightly underwhelming start so far... maybe b/c I don't care at all about anything Boyd is doing right now, I dunno.

[Draft Dodger]

I think he is the big bad.

I've enjoyed the start, does feel kind of samey though.

[sabotai]

I watched most of the An Idiot Abroad episodes. Am now watching The Moaning of Life. Hoping it's as funny.

[DaddyTorgo]

I think I'm going to actively root for the virus in Helix.

So many stupid decisions by so many supposedly "smart" people just to advance the plot. It's a dumb show.

[stevew]

Pretty good chance everyone with DTV will have a messed up recording of the Following

[NobodyHere]

Apparently Duck Dynasty had its season premiere this week. I was curious not because I watch the show, but because I wondered how the recent flap would affect its ratings.

The show drew 8.5 million people. Well short of last season's summer premiere. Still though 8.5 million is very respectable for a cable show.

Source (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/01/16/duck-dynasty-return-sees-big-ratings-drop/4526639/)

[Suicane75]

Giving Trophy Wife a shot since I love Ackerman and Whitford, for very different reasons. It's serviceable through 2 episodes although the former wives are kind of grating, and not in a good way, but more of a get in the way way.

[stevew]

I like trophy wife but it seems like a near mortal lock for cancelation.

[cubboyroy1826]

Anyone else like The Goldbergs? I really love the show having grown up in the 80's.

[rowech]

Anyone else like The Goldbergs? I really love the show having grown up in the 80's.

Yep. I worry too few people are watching though. Show has gotten better every week. The going to the video store to rent a movie was captured perfectly last week.

[cubboyroy1826]

I think the kid playing Adam is just perfect. Not to mention the dad who walks in after a day of work and drops his pants at the front door. One of my favorite episodes was when Adam Pops went to the theater. The movie rental episode was great. My kids were like $59.95 for a video tape?

[sabotai]

Watched the first few episodes of season 3 of Girls to see if it got any better and no, it hasn't. Season 1 was decent enough, season 2 sucked and looks like season 3 isn't going any better.

[oykib]

Yep. I worry too few people are watching though. Show has gotten better every week. The going to the video store to rent a movie was captured perfectly last week.

You should check out TV-by-the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/01/19/bubble-watch-brooklyn-nine-nine-the-goldbergs-the-blacklist-almost-human-and-intelligence-not-on-the-bubble/230331/). Their Bubble Watch is usually pretty accurate.

[stevew]

Anyone else like The Goldbergs? I really love the show having grown up in the 80's.

I don't think that I like the artistic choice to just generically set it in the 80s, where stuff like the Phillies losing the series is cut with stuff that happened several years later. I'd prefer continuity if at all possible.

My fear is that once Adam ages, the show will just lose a lot of it's appeal as he becomes awkward looking. They should have attempted to get as many episodes in the can before he goes through puberty. Maybe he'll age gracefully or maybe they'll just re-cast the lead. Hard to say.

The mom is great, she brings it every episode.

[JonInMiddleGA]

You should check out TV-by-the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/01/19/bubble-watch-brooklyn-nine-nine-the-goldbergs-the-blacklist-almost-human-and-intelligence-not-on-the-bubble/230331/). Their Bubble Watch is usually pretty accurate.

FWIW, the latest there says

The Goldbergs seems to have stabilized in the survival range. Given that ABC has renewed at least one freshman comedy every year since the 06/07 season, despite most of those renewals being mistakes (e.g. Better Off Ted), the numbers are solid enough that I think ABC continues the trend, and I’ve moved it to “Renewal Predicted”.

While The Trophy Wife (also mentioned in this same discussion recently) is listed as "Cancellation Predicted"

[stevew]

Trophy Wife is owned by ABC, which is going to at least make it slighter than it should possibility for a surprise renewal. I actually prefer it to the Goldbergs and i think Trophy Wife could become a hit with some retooling and a better time slot.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Apparently Duck Dynasty had its season premiere this week. I was curious not because I watch the show, but because I wondered how the recent flap would affect its ratings.

The show drew 8.5 million people. Well short of last season's summer premiere. Still though 8.5 million is very respectable for a cable show.

It's a bit of a tough read, since the numbers were actually up from the previous season finale.

My suspicion is that oversaturation in the retail space during the holidays did more damage than any of the "controversy", even some of the most diehard fans of the show were getting a bit weary from the Walmart onslaught.

[Izulde]

I watched a couple episodes of The Goldbergs and wasn't impressed at all. To me it felt like it wanted to be The Wonder Years - the '80s version - but just came across as lame and obnoxious.

[cuervo72]

I don't think that I like the artistic choice to just generically set it in the 80s, where stuff like the Phillies losing the series is cut with stuff that happened several years later. I'd prefer continuity if at all possible.

My fear is that once Adam ages, the show will just lose a lot of it's appeal as he becomes awkward looking. They should have attempted to get as many episodes in the can before he goes through puberty. Maybe he'll age gracefully or maybe they'll just re-cast the lead. Hard to say.

The mom is great, she brings it every episode.

That annoyed me at first -- Barry idolizing Darryl Dawkins, when he was off the Sixers by '82?? A reference to Coctail from '88, in the same ep where they cover DeLorean going to jail? I'm beginning to like that there really is no timeline, as opposed to other flashback shows. I think it might free them up to do more. As long as they are a little careful about mixing references.

Agreed on the mom, who is not only funny but...well, there is something about 80s MILF that I kinda like. Regarding Adam, it's funny - it seems like the eps I've seen focus on Barry as much as anything.

[JonInMiddleGA]

...well, there is something about 80s MILF that I kinda like.

I'm soooo happy that I didn't misread that bit.

Otherwise it would have gotten REALLY gross.

[stevew]

Shark Tank is probably my favorite show on TV right now I think.

[Izulde]

Shark Tank is probably my favorite show on TV right now I think.

I love Shark Tank. It's so great how all the investors have different personalities. Mark Cuban's my favorite.

[stevew]

I like how you can tell that Cuban has the obvious control of the room because he could simply buy all of them combined.

[stevew]

I know it's pretty lowbrow, but I like Mom on CBS.

[Lathum]

I have said it before, but it amazes me how I can see a 30 second commercial for a show and know it will be total shit, yet a whole slew of people making 7 figures each cant see it. I get they have to put something on, but I see commercials for shows like Ironside and think, are you kidding me?

[stevew]

I have said it before, but it amazes me how I can see a 30 second commercial for a show and know it will be total shit, yet a whole slew of people making 7 figures each cant see it. I get they have to put something on, but I see commercials for shows like Ironside and think, are you kidding me?

I always wonder what the shows that don't make it are like. I expect them to be shit, but then I saw the Susan 323(the Silverman one) pilot and it was way better than the shit NBC puts on. There was a Carolla animated pilot that was out there and it got passed over for that Allen Gregory show and Napoleon Dynamite. It's baffling.

[DaddyTorgo]

I always wonder what the shows that don't make it are like. I expect them to be shit, but then I saw the Susan 323(the Silverman one) pilot and it was way better than the shit NBC puts on. There was a Carolla animated pilot that was out there and it got passed over for that Allen Gregory show and Napoleon Dynamite. It's baffling.

What they ought to do - and I'd think it'll happen at some point sooner rather than later, is stream all the pilots on Hulu over the course of say...two weeks, track the viewing of them (how many people, how long, etc) and then greenlight the ones that people actually watch. Or fuck - let the viewing public vote and decide.

It wouldn't completely solve the problem, because pilots are not always a great representation of how a show will evolve, but it would solve some of the obvious "one and done" stinkers.

[chadritt]

Amazon already does that, or at least they did, thats why Zombieland didnt get made.

[DaddyTorgo]

Amazon already does that, or at least they did, thats why Zombieland didnt get made.

True Amazon has started doing that. I was referring to the broadcast networks I suppose.

Hell - they don't even have to use Hulu - they each have apps and websites where you can watch episodes, just use those. They could even sell fucking advertising on their own websites then.

It's so fucking obvious. 21st century...c'mon.

[stevew]

There's been a shift into straight to series orders this year with many shows bypassing the traditional pilot process. I would hope the networks will now look to eliminate the current series order sizes and do even more limited length series. Fox seems to have figured this out.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What they ought to do - and I'd think it'll happen at some point sooner rather than later, is stream all the pilots on Hulu over the course of say

Too narrow a self-selecting audience to be a representative sample for the majority of shows ... which are aimed at audiences that have never f'n heard of Hulu, much less are Hulu users.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Here's a quickie thumbnail (http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2013/09/51-percent-of-americans-watch-streaming-video-every-week.html) of what I meant above

This is for ANY streaming video of any kind, never mind whether that's YT or FB or Hulu

Age makes a huge difference when you look at the numbers for streaming video. Not surprisingly, Generation Y (13 to 33) lead the pack with 62 percent watching at least weekly. Generation X (34 to 47) is 46 percent and it drops to 30 percent for Baby Boomers.

Would work great if your show is going on Disney/Nick/MTV ... a lot less useful if you're CBS.

[RainMaker]

It's a bit of a tough read, since the numbers were actually up from the previous season finale.

My suspicion is that oversaturation in the retail space during the holidays did more damage than any of the "controversy", even some of the most diehard fans of the show were getting a bit weary from the Walmart onslaught.

I think it's just the natural cycle of a reality TV show. They all seem to only have a few years of being on top before they start a decline. That's why I've always felt they were smart for whoring out their name to so many products. Strike while the iron is hot.

They've still got years left and 8 million is a solid number, but it's just inevitable that another show will come along and grab the country's attention for a few years and start the cycle all over again.

[DaddyTorgo]

Here's a quickie thumbnail (http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2013/09/51-percent-of-americans-watch-streaming-video-every-week.html) of what I meant above

This is for ANY streaming video of any kind, never mind whether that's YT or FB or Hulu



Would work great if your show is going on Disney/Nick/MTV ... a lot less useful if you're CBS.

I went on to point out that all the networks have their own apps and websites - they could do it on those. :p

[JonInMiddleGA]

I went on to point out that all the networks have their own apps and websites - they could do it on those. :p

That's the thing though, the figures I cited showed how few people that make up a lion's share of audience for many networks watch ANY streaming video on ANY vehicle. (i.e. I stopped singling out Hulu)

And those numbers are the maximum possible, which would include those who only watch video of their new nephew being cute on Facebook. The number who ever watch something longer form is going to be considerably smaller.

I'm trying to think if I've ever sat through any TV show beyond clip length online, off hand I can't think of one.

[stevew]

how big was that DD wal mart deal? they had so much shit for sale that it was pretty much ludicrous.

The show will be fine, also. They'll keep making it until the profits dry up and at that point people will have moved onto something else. I read some article about how it was "only" at like 3.9m in the key demo, and I was thinking that it was basically 2X the numbers that most network shows draw there, and 3X the numbers of stuff like Parks and Rec or Michael J Fox(just using those two as examples). Hell, 3.9m viewers in the demo is more than New Girl routinely draws overall IIRC.

[Honolulu_Blue]

It just got all Lovecraftian up in "True Detective."

"King In Yellow" and "Carcosa" FTW!

[panerd]

Shark Tank is probably my favorite show on TV right now I think.

I love Shark Tank. Just started watching it a few months ago and now am catching old episodes on CNBC on Tuesday nights.

Also really enjoying True Detective. Glad there are a few shows to hold me over until Game of Thrones and Walking Dead start back up. I also wonder if I should get back into Justified. I watched most of season one but felt like it was a chore towards the end. For the fans on here does it get better in later seasons or am I just not going to enjoy this particular show?

[Radii]

I also wonder if I should get back into Justified. I watched most of season one but felt like it was a chore towards the end. For the fans on here does it get better in later seasons or am I just not going to enjoy this particular show?

If you got all the way through season 1 and didn't like it then it might just not be for you, as I think the second half of season 1 is a decent representation of what the show is throughout. That said, most people consider season 2 to be the strongest season, and some new characters are introduced that many people really really like. So if you have the time I'd definitely recommend trying the first few episodes of season 2 and seeing if you get into it.

[stevew]

I started watching the intro to episode 2 of True Detective and there were scenes in there that i had no recollection of actually happening. Probably not a good sign, although i heard there are some A+ assets on display in episode 2.

[Honolulu_Blue]

although i heard there are some A+ assets on display in episode 2.

You heard correctly.

[GrantDawg]

I love Shark Tank. Just started watching it a few months ago and now am catching old episodes on CNBC on Tuesday nights.



Thank you thank you thank you! I didn't know it was on CNBC. I just started watching it a few months ago as well, and is now a Saturday morning tradition with my 10 year old. We love it.

[DanGarion]

Did someone mention that The Assets was already pulled?

[stevew]

Restaurant Impossible really reminds me of many of the situations I saw working in the restaurant industry. Owners who have no idea what they are doing. Catastrophically bad decisions made by unqualified people. Food that could be better if it had a bit of tweaking. I know Irvine had that problem with his resume, but I tend to think that he might actually be a good guy.

[panerd]

If you got all the way through season 1 and didn't like it then it might just not be for you, as I think the second half of season 1 is a decent representation of what the show is throughout. That said, most people consider season 2 to be the strongest season, and some new characters are introduced that many people really really like. So if you have the time I'd definitely recommend trying the first few episodes of season 2 and seeing if you get into it.

That is kind of why I was asking. I didn't finish season one. I think my dvr screwed up and I was missing like episode eight (I want to say the last episode I saw Shane is in prison and they are looking for an art collection) and never ended up going any further. I should love it... Bullock and Shane are two of my favorite tv characters. I thought maybe it got better from that point. If it were on Netflix or something I would catch up right now but fx doesn't utilize it's on demand as well as HBO does.

[panerd]

Thank you thank you thank you! I didn't know it was on CNBC. I just started watching it a few months ago as well, and is now a Saturday morning tradition with my 10 year old. We love it.

They have two on every Tuesday and every once in a while it seems like they run 4-5 because my dvr fills up. The ones from season one are a little strange with a giant table they sit at like the Supreme Court and a lot less banter than they seem to have now but it's definitely one of my current favorites.

[DaddyTorgo]

If you guys like Shark Tank then see if you can find the British original somewhere out there. It's called "Dragon's Den."

In fact here - I'll do the work for you

http://www.ovguide.com/tv/dragons_den.htm

[Radii]

I didn't finish season one. I think my dvr screwed up and I was missing like episode eight

In that case my recommendation to give it another try is much, much stronger. The first 4'ish episodes were almost completely "case of the week" type stories, and while there are definitely case of the week stories scattered throughout the series, there are many episodes that only deal with main plotlines and the show becomes much, much more serialized. Since you aren't too far past that shaky opening set of episodes then I think there's a much better chance you'll enjoy it.

Goggins and Olyphant are great together and you'll get a lot of that scattered throughout the series, and if you're not quite sold on Boyd Crowder (shane/goggins) just yet, he does go through some changes, in a good way IMO, and a way that fits the show.

[cuervo72]

Agreed on the mom, who is not only funny but...well, there is something about 80s MILF that I kinda like.

Dancing in tights. Yes, definitely yes.

(She's less than a year older than my wife, so this isn't a surprise. The fact that I'm not deterred by 80s hair, maybe.)

[Lathum]

anyone watch Klondike?

[ISiddiqui]

You should check out TV-by-the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/01/19/bubble-watch-brooklyn-nine-nine-the-goldbergs-the-blacklist-almost-human-and-intelligence-not-on-the-bubble/230331/). Their Bubble Watch is usually pretty accurate.

ARGH!! More people need to be watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine! C'mon peoples!

[Draft Dodger]

I'm doing my part, but while I like the show and feel it has potential, I don't know that it's quite wow'd me to the point where I'd be sad for it to go away

[chadritt]

ARGH!! More people need to be watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine! C'mon peoples!

Ratings went up last night. Combine that with a post super bowl slot and two golden globes and I assume it gets a second season. I really like the show so I'm happy about that.

[larrymcg421]

ARGH!! More people need to be watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine! C'mon peoples!

Brooklyn 99 is not going to be cancelled. I usually like TVbythenumbers, but I think they've been unnecessarily pessimistic about this show. It's FOX's #2 comedy and they've paired it with New Girl for the post Superbowl slot. And last night's episode actually outperformed New Girl.

[oykib]

Brooklyn 99 is not going to be cancelled. I usually like TVbythenumbers, but I think they've been unnecessarily pessimistic about this show. It's FOX's #2 comedy and they've paired it with New Girl for the post Superbowl slot. And last night's episode actually outperformed New Girl.

I agree with you about the show's outlook. But more people should be watching the show. It's too good for it to even be in the bubble conversation.

[stevew]

"The Cosby Show" has been off the air for over twenty years, but Bill Cosby is ready for his return to NBC. The comedian, now 76 years old, has signed with the network to develop a half hour comedy, which he will star in.

According to Deadline, Cosby is working on the project with producer Tom Werner. The two previously worked together on "The Cosby Show," as well as CBS' "Cosby," which ran four seasons.

The new sitcom will show Cosby as the head of a multi-generational family, imparting his views on marriage and parenting along the way. Werner and Cosby are currently searching for writers to work on the project.

Cosby made his return to TV in November with a Comedy Central stand-up special, his first in 30 years.


that's pretty interesting news for NBC. Although I'd imagine that people would have expected the Michael J Fox show to do better.

[JonInMiddleGA]

While Nine-Nine was up 36% this week versus last week's series low, it seems worth noting that the mark came with both NCIS and Marvel:Shield airing repeat episodes.

[BishopMVP]

If you Comcast On Demand (and Starz), the 1st episode of Black Sails is up. I thought it was okay, but it definitely suffers if you try to compare it to Game of Thrones or a movie. And the nudity was a little over the top, but you know, Starz.

Weird thing I didn't realize - apparently NBC is also launching one set at the same time centered on a Blackbeard played by John Malkovich - Crossbones | John Malkovich as Blackbeard the Infamous Pirate | NBC (http://www.nbc.com/crossbones/)

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah - it's a Starz series - I wouldn't try to compare it to Game of Thrones.

Not sure I said it on here, but if it's "Spartacus Pirates" I'll be more than happy with it.

Looking forward to the NBC one, but I imagine it'll suffer the same fate as Andre Braugher's series. Too high production costs and probably too niche in terms of viewership for their audience.

But then again, Once Upon a Time has found a viewership on one of the major networks, so what do I know.

[BishopMVP]

Yeah - it's a Starz series - I wouldn't try to compare it to Game of Thrones.

Looking forward to the NBC one, but I imagine it'll suffer the same fate as Andre Braugher's series. Too high production costs and probably too niche in terms of viewership for their audience.The GoT comparison is because the guy who directed the pilot was the guy who directed the Blackwater episode, so a lot of people were expecting a more lavish pilot.

The Last Resort comparison makes some sense, because both shows suffer due to have to invent reasons to keep characters on land because filming on the ocean is too expensive, but the Last Resort pilot was much better and felt bigger imo - if anything the problem was that later episodes didn't live up to that level of action, tension and production value (as well as the question of where it could really have gone after one season - should have just been an extended mini-series.)

[Izulde]

The first episode of Blacks Sails is supposed to be free viewing on Starz' website, but every time it starts, I get a Type Error - Error #1009.

[cartman]

The new show on History "Ten Things You Don't Know About..." is pretty interesting. But Henry Rollins isn't aging well at all. He looks like he is in his mid-70s.

[Draft Dodger]

The new show on History "Ten Things You Don't Know About..." is pretty interesting. But Henry Rollins isn't aging well at all. He looks like he is in his mid-70s.

I wasn't expecting to like Rollins, but I think he's a lot better than the season one narrator

[stevew]

I have never watched an episode of Parenthood, but the "previously on...." segment is usually serious as a heart attack.

[rowech]

I have never watched an episode of Parenthood, but the "previously on...." segment is usually serious as a heart attack.

I believe it has become the best show on broadcast tv. A very realistic portrayal of real issues that people are dealing with daily.

[stevew]

Michael J Fox pulled from schedule. I liked it enough. NBC had no shows to launch it with. I bet their new Cosby meets a similar fate.

[DanGarion]

Michael J Fox pulled from schedule. I liked it enough. NBC had no shows to launch it with. I bet their new Cosby meets a similar fate.

Wow what a shit decision there. I really enjoyed that show!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Psych officially cancelled today, at the conclusion of the current season in March.

[stevew]

Wow what a shit decision there. I really enjoyed that show!

I actually liked the supporting players a lot. I might have chucked the blonde sister. The youngest kid was great.

[rowech]

I actually liked the supporting players a lot. I might have chucked the blonde sister. The youngest kid was great.

We watched the first six and I felt the kids were easily the worst part of the show. Most family sitcoms, in my opinion, are all about the kids. Get good ones like The Middle and Modern Family and you can get a lot more out of your show. Ultimately, I felt the MJF show was literally all about MJF and while he is still good, the rest of the cast was very poor in my opinion.

[rowech]

Psych officially cancelled today, at the conclusion of the current season in March.

It's probably a season too late but still get some laughs from the show. Glad they're making this the end as long as there is a good finale where they knew it was going to be over.

[Lathum]

Simon Cowell leaves The X Factor, show is canceled in the U.S. - Cincinnati News, FOX19-WXIX TV (http://www.fox19.com/story/24670067/simon-cowell-leaves-the-x-factor-show-is-cancelled-in-the-us)

[larrymcg421]

FWIW, there are still 7 more episodes of MJF Show. They gave it a 22 episode order and will probably burn the rest off at some point.

I never came around to the two sons or the aunt, but I thought Juliette Goglia was terrific as the daughter. Also, Betsy Brandt and Wendell Pierce were really strong. I really liked it, but I can't blame NBC for cancelling it. The ratings were low even for NBC.

[stevew]

FWIW, there are still 7 more episodes of MJF Show. They gave it a 22 episode order and will probably burn the rest off at some point.

I never came around to the two sons or the aunt, but I thought Juliette Goglia was terrific as the daughter. Also, Betsy Brandt and Wendell Pierce were really strong. I really liked it, but I can't blame NBC for cancelling it. The ratings were low even for NBC.

I agree about the supporting members you liked and I also hated the oldest son and aunt. I thought the youngest kid was totally believable as MJF's son, I probably wouldn't have even fact checked it if someone said that kids was his real son.

Ultimately the show really wasn't about much of anything. The premise was just so New York and that apartment was probably 3m+ or so. Just seemed like an unbelievable house for someone even of his pay scale and stature on the show. I'm not even sure the real MJF could justify a place like that in the city and he's loaded.

[DaddyTorgo]

Ultimately the show really wasn't about much of anything. The premise was just so New York

This is what turned me off about it early on.

[stevew]

MJF is also so crazy short that it it's borderline distracting when everyone else is at least 6-8" taller than him.

[rowech]

This is what turned me off about it early on.

And raising a family in New York on top of that. Not that it's not done but I can't say I can think of a show that presented it that way.

[BishopMVP]

Wow... that last episode of Justified. That was action-packed enough to be a season finale, and it's what, episode 4 of the season?

[21C]

I just watched an Australian mini series on INXS and the guy playing the band's manager, with a very broad Australian accent, looked very familiar. I was shocked to find out that it was the guy who plays Dewey Crowe in Justified. I freakin' love the character of Dewey Crowe so you could have knocked me down with a feather when I discovered that Damon Herriman is an Australian.

Damon Herriman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damon_Herriman)

[Draft Dodger]

that's amazing.

I was impressed when I found out that Matthew Rhys from The Americans is Welsh. And, of course like half the cast of the Wire and the Walking Dead are British.

also chuckled recently when I watched the first Tomb Raider movie to see Daniel Craig doing a (rather spotty) American accent

[Matthean]

Found out Hannibal isn't on Netflix but is on Amazon Prime Instant Video. Nice to have a Bryan Fuller TV series back in my life.

[stevew]

Hannibal is pretty awesome.

[Radii]

Pretty perfect Parks and Rec tonight, I laughed at so many different things. The ending was spectacular.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Hannibal is pretty awesome.

It is.

I really enjoy it and it's the most beautifully shot TV show possibly ever.

[larrymcg421]

Pretty perfect Parks and Rec tonight, I laughed at so many different things. The ending was spectacular.

Yeah, that was a terrific episode.

[stevew]

It is.

I really enjoy it and it's the most beautifully shot TV show possibly ever.

Show is so good it's silly. It's like the perfect convergence of food porn and murder porn. The guy who plays Hannibal is better than Hopkins.

[OldGiants]

Pretty perfect Parks and Rec tonight, I laughed at so many different things. The ending was spectacular.

My wife and I agree. One of the best ever for P&R. Every character had at least two big laughs.

[stevew]

1.1/3.4 for Hannibal. Its embarrassing how few people watch this show but tune in for dreck CBS murder porn. I really want Netflix or Amazon to start back channeling that they will commit to a total of 7 seasons. It would suck if they never got to Red Dragon or Silence of the Lambs.

[Honolulu_Blue]

1.1/3.4 for Hannibal. Its embarrassing how few people watch this show but tune in for dreck CBS murder porn. I really want Netflix or Amazon to start back channeling that they will commit to a total of 7 seasons. It would suck if they never got to Red Dragon or Silence of the Lambs.

Sadly, Friday night is a death slot for television. I was a bit surprised and disappointed last week when I went to set my DVR and found it was moved from Thursday to Friday.

I'm glad we got another season, but the signs were clear...

[SFL Cat]

I found Sleepy Hollow entertaining. Stopped watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. after its mid-season break, but others tell me it has gotten better toward the end, so I may have to watch a few more episodes.

I also enjoyed Vikings, although I missed last Thursday's second season premier. Guess I'll have to watch On Demand.

[Radii]

I found Sleepy Hollow entertaining.


I think this is the only new show of the fall 13/spring 14 TV season that I really like. I'm watching the Blacklist, but I'm not entirely sure why. But Sleepy Hollow is really fun, I'm glad its done well.

Err, only new show outside of True Detective, that is, almost forgot about that.

[Thomkal]

I've enjoyed Agents more as the season progressed-they've become more emotionally attached to each other, and the backstory behind Coulson's "death" and Skye's mysterious parents have being/begun to be revealed and are interesting.

[Radii]

Sadly, Friday night is a death slot for television. I was a bit surprised and disappointed last week when I went to set my DVR and found it was moved from Thursday to Friday.

I'm glad we got another season, but the signs were clear...


There's always hope as long as NBC continues to suck.

[Draft Dodger]

I've enjoyed Agents more as the season progressed-they've become more emotionally attached to each other, and the backstory behind Coulson's "death" and Skye's mysterious parents have being/begun to be revealed and are interesting.

I am not a huge fan - I think there's a lot of lazy writing which is a huge pet peeve of mine - but it's one of a few shows that we all watch as a family. I definitely would have stopped a while back if not for that reason. Well, Skye certainly doesn't hurt the cause either. Damn, that's a beautiful woman.

that being said, the most recent one - the train one - was one of the better episodes this year

[General Mike]

Bates Motel is back for season 2. Thought the season premiere was pretty good, with some crazy moments.

[stevew]

Sadly, Friday night is a death slot for television. I was a bit surprised and disappointed last week when I went to set my DVR and found it was moved from Thursday to Friday.

I'm glad we got another season, but the signs were clear...

Supposedly the risk on production is pretty low. I think NBC basically spends almost 0 on it.

[stevew]

Brilliant episode of Person of Interest last night that tied together all of the back story mythology.

Really like the guy from The Pacific and hope they work him in for a bunch of episodes.

[B & B]

Brilliant episode of Person of Interest last night that tied together all of the back story mythology.

Really like the guy from The Pacific and hope they work him in for a bunch of episodes.

Agreed. Thought it was very well done and perfect execution of the Radiohead song in the background for the penultimate scene.

Never seen The Pacific so I actually thought you were talking about Mr.Dillinger instead of Casey.

[mckerney]

Enjoyed the first episode of Andy Daly's new show Review.

Stealing, Addiction, Prom - Review Episode - Season 1 - Ep. 101 | Comedy Central (http://www.comedycentral.com/episodes/coh418/review-stealing--addiction--prom-season-1-ep-101)

[stevew]

Agreed. Thought it was very well done and perfect execution of the Radiohead song in the background for the penultimate scene.

Never seen The Pacific so I actually thought you were talking about Mr.Dillinger instead of Casey.

I didn't care for the whole thing, but his part was excellent in the Pacific.

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Andy Daly's new Comedy Central show "Review" looks wonderful, the first episode was available early on demand. Great if you like absurd humor, he's quite the talent.

[Radii]

Review: Seth MacFarlane & Neil DeGrasse Tyson bring Cosmos back to life on FOX (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-seth-macfarlane-neil-degrasse-tyson-bring-cosmos-back-to-life-on-fox)

I'm really looking forward to this!

[mckerney]

Andy Daly's new Comedy Central show "Review" looks wonderful, the first episode was available early on demand. Great if you like absurd humor, he's quite the talent.

I'm really happy to see Andy Daly starting in something. 9 Sweaters is my favorite comedy album. Couldn't stop laughing at his cocaine addict performance in the first episode of Review.

Makes for a couple his new shows on CC between this and Broad City.

[stevew]

Anyone else like Mom? It's Lorre done right IMO.

[DanGarion]

Anyone else like Mom? It's Lorre done right IMO.

Really? We watched that show two times. What s shit stain of a show!

[General Mike]

I've enjoyed Agents more as the season progressed-they've become more emotionally attached to each other, and the backstory behind Coulson's "death" and Skye's mysterious parents have being/begun to be revealed and are interesting.

Yeah, I feel like it's getting better. I'm not sure where they are going with things, but there are lots of things you can speculate about which is always fun.

[stevew]

Really? We watched that show two times. What s shit stain of a show!

Quit complaining!

[BishopMVP]

Yeah, I feel like it's getting better. I'm not sure where they are going with things, but there are lots of things you can speculate about which is always fun.I agree it's getting better, but meanwhile Arrow's got the Suicide Squad going up against Deathstroke, with the League of Assassins hanging out at the fringes. I'm still worried that Arrow will try to kill Sara and make Laurel Black Canary instead of just keeping Sara as it and getting rid of the actress who plays Laurel but they've been phenomenal at using 2nd-tier villains and bringing in actors like Michael Jai White and T-Bone to play them.

Btw, I think AoS kind of messed up their "reveal" too which I presume is that Skye is a different race. Should've shown Coulson seeing that the serum was alien before revealing that Skye reacted favorably to it imo.

[General Mike]

I've never watched Arrow. Is season 1 on Netflix or Hulu?

[Bigsmooth]

Really enjoying Broad City on Comedy Central. Nice combo with Workaholics.

[rowech]

Really? We watched that show two times. What s shit stain of a show!

Anna Farris and Allison Janey are learning to play off each other pretty well and both of them have great timing. Farris is very good at using facial expressions with her lines to make them funnier. The show actually hits some real issues and I thought this past Monday was fantastic where the daughter decides to put the baby up for adoption to try and break the cycle of their family.

[mckerney]

Really? We watched that show two times. What s shit stain of a show!

I thought shit stain of a show was the definition of Lorre done right.

[mckerney]

Andy Daly's new Comedy Central show "Review" looks wonderful, the first episode was available early on demand. Great if you like absurd humor, he's quite the talent.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/15TyRtA73Ks" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Preview from next weeks episode.

[DanGarion]

I thought shit stain of a show was the definition of Lorre done right.

Big Bang Theory isn't a shit stain.

[stevew]

BBT is a shit stain show.

The elevator is still broken? Hijinks ensue!

[DanGarion]

BBT is a shit stain show.

The elevator is still broken? Hijinks ensue!

Hey let's point out one thing that isn't even a focus on the show!

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

IMO BBT is an extremely conventional and safe show executed well, like Friends.

[BishopMVP]

I've never watched Arrow. Is season 1 on Netflix or Hulu?I think it's Netflix.

[stevew]

Hey let's point out one thing that isn't even a focus on the show!

You can never judge a comedy based only on the pilot and one episode. Even dreck like Dads deserved better than that. Dads was a shitstain show. Mom is an interesting family comedy.

[General Mike]

I think it's Netflix.

Thanks. And I lied. I remember watching the very first episode.

[BishopMVP]

Thanks. And I lied. I remember watching the very first episode.Like most shows it does take some time to find its strengths and focus less on its weaknesses (which is why it's a little unfair to compare to the beginning of S1 of AoS). In Arrow's case, that's any drama involving either Laurel or Thea, which haven't been completely phased out (it is a CW show after all*) but have been marginalized some. Just like AoS will never ditch the model-looking Skye and Ward like many want, but can head off the ire directed at them if they're less of a focus and they connect their plots of the week to a larger Marvel Universe instead of feeling like a bottle episode on the plane (and AoS does seem to be bringing in more of the wider world and hinting at a break out from the icebox by the end of the season.)

* - One small downside to watching on Netflix is you miss the promos for all the other CW shows. They're all so unbelievably terrible.

[oykib]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B5_O11mMEdM/UD1z_NfafrI/AAAAAAAAAEs/-0ARxiVcM-8/s1600/Good_News_Everyone_by_martynasx.jpg

Brooklyn Nine-Nine was officially renewed (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/03/07/fox-renews-new-girl-the-mindy-project-the-following-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/243062/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter) by FOX.

[Thomkal]

I agree it's getting better, but meanwhile Arrow's got the Suicide Squad going up against Deathstroke, with the League of Assassins hanging out at the fringes. I'm still worried that Arrow will try to kill Sara and make Laurel Black Canary instead of just keeping Sara as it and getting rid of the actress who plays Laurel but they've been phenomenal at using 2nd-tier villains and bringing in actors like Michael Jai White and T-Bone to play them.

Btw, I think AoS kind of messed up their "reveal" too which I presume is that Skye is a different race. Should've shown Coulson seeing that the serum was alien before revealing that Skye reacted favorably to it imo.

I enjoyed the latest episode of AoS. Very tense and haunting when they finally reached the location of Coulson's "resurrection" and what he found there, and what that likely means about Skye. That information web that Fitz/Simmons used was pretty cool too. Next week's episode sadly does not look as interesting from the previews, we shall see though.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I agree it's getting better, but meanwhile Arrow's got the Suicide Squad going up against Deathstroke, with the League of Assassins hanging out at the fringes. I'm still worried that Arrow will try to kill Sara and make Laurel Black Canary instead of just keeping Sara as it and getting rid of the actress who plays Laurel but they've been phenomenal at using 2nd-tier villains and bringing in actors like Michael Jai White and T-Bone to play them.

I am really considering giving Arrow a try. As random as it sounds "Deadshot" has always been my favorite D.C. character - villain or otherwise. I have every issue of the original "Suicide Squad", as well as the 2nd version, all of the "Secret Six", the old "Deadshot" mini-series (which was fantastic), the newer one (which was not) and other various comics.

[stevew]

Is that HBO show "Looking" any good? A lot of their comedies seem to go 1 and done so I ignore most of them.

[cuervo72]

Just watched Sirens on USA. Found it enjoyable.

[NobodyHere]

1.1/3.4 for Hannibal. Its embarrassing how few people watch this show but tune in for dreck CBS murder porn. I really want Netflix or Amazon to start back channeling that they will commit to a total of 7 seasons. It would suck if they never got to Red Dragon or Silence of the Lambs.

I just got into watching Hannibal on Amazon Prime and I'm really enjoying it.

I'm glad that they cast the role of Freddie Lounds in way they did considering the recent events of Philip Seymour Hoffman(who played FL in Red Dragon).

[stevew]

Just a befuddling pick up of The Mindy Project. I believe in her talent and watch the show, but it remains a real ClusterF. I'm surprised that Anders Holm story line didn't destroy the show. Rapper preacher turned DJ. It was dreadful. Dunno what the contract was with the Duplass bros but Mark was criminally underused and we keep getting shoveled that British doctor that sucks and way too much ike Barenholz(Morgan).

I guess it means all the pilots/shows fox has in the pipeline are iffy? Maybe they chuck Mindy on Friday next year. New Girl and B99 struggle to stay relevant as it is.

Also fox renewed The Following. I'm glad I have enough self esteem to stop watching. I saw 1.5 episodes until they cast that shitty kid from Dexter s8(Zach Hamilton I think was his name) and he also got to ruin season 3 of Homeland as Dana's shitty boyfriend. Great hat trick of wretched performances. This kid is Ted McGinley 2.0

[Lathum]

I bailed pretty early on the Following as well. My wife for some reason still watches it and I get the shakes every time I walk into the room and its on.

[Ryan S]

Just a befuddling pick up of The Mindy Project.

Assuming they pick up a full 22 episode season, this is likely a two season pickup to get them all the way to syndication.

[Draft Dodger]

I bailed pretty early on the Following as well. My wife for some reason still watches it and I get the shakes every time I walk into the room and its on.

For my wife, I stuck through to the end of season 1. The minute it ended, I told her there was no way in hell that I'd ever watch another second of the show. Even she had soured on it and she likes really stupid TV.

[Draft Dodger]

Just a befuddling pick up of The Mindy Project. I believe in her talent and watch the show, but it remains a real ClusterF. I'm surprised that Anders Holm story line didn't destroy the show. Rapper preacher turned DJ. It was dreadful. Dunno what the contract was with the Duplass bros but Mark was criminally underused and we keep getting shoveled that British doctor that sucks and way too much ike Barenholz(Morgan).


well, I'm glad it got picked up. I really like the show although I agree it is a hot mess. It could be a lot better, but I still laugh my ass off watching.

She totally needs more women to interact with. Not sure why they ditched those two friends of hers from the first season, but it was a mistake. As is the Danny romance thing, but we all knew that train wreck was coming.

[stevew]

Assuming they pick up a full 22 episode season, this is likely a two season pickup to get them all the way to syndication.

I think that's why it's most shocking. Parts of it work well but it needs a complete razing. I also wish they would promote how Mindy is a quality doctor more. She's written as such a ditz that it's hard to believe she is competent. IMO one of the best episode was when she interacted with the HS kids. I would consider moving her to a teaching hospital so she can play off of younger actors.

[Thomkal]

I enjoyed Cosmos a lot-I was fortunate enough to go to the Hayden Planetarium a couple times when I was kid, so I've been aware of Neil Degrasse Tyson's connection to it for a while-thought he was a great choice for host of the program, especially with his own connection to Carl Sagan.

I liked the part at the end when he broke down the galactic calendar as we know it into a single year of our calendar. Really showed how "new" we humans are as a species.

[cuervo72]

I enjoyed Cosmos a lot-I was fortunate enough to go to the Hayden Planetarium a couple times when I was kid

I initially read this as "Hayden Panettierium" which, while she's not my favorite, would probably also be a pretty cool place

[Thomkal]

I initially read this as "Hayden Panettierium" which, while she's not my favorite, would probably also be a pretty cool place

LOL I can understand the confusion :)

[Thomkal]

I also watched the new show Resurrection-greatly reminded me of Lost in general theme-a mystery involving life and death, and I'm intrigued with where they are going with this one.

Little boy dies 30+ years ago in a small town in Missouri. He wakes up in present day China, yes China, in a rice field still the same age as when he died. Taken back to Missouri he meets his parents who have aged that 30+ years and right now from his memories and DNA, seems to be the real deal.

[stevew]

Hannibal ep2 was amazing and borderline over the top disgusting. Those sutures.

[rowech]

I also watched the new show Resurrection-greatly reminded me of Lost in general theme-a mystery involving life and death, and I'm intrigued with where they are going with this one.

Little boy dies 30+ years ago in a small town in Missouri. He wakes up in present day China, yes China, in a rice field still the same age as when he died. Taken back to Missouri he meets his parents who have aged that 30+ years and right now from his memories and DNA, seems to be the real deal.

Good the first time I saw it when it was called "The 4400."

[Matthean]

Good the first time I saw it when it was called "The 4400."

I remember watching The 4400 and liking it a lot, but I don't recall it going for as long as it was planned so that kind of killed it for me.

[Thomkal]

Good the first time I saw it when it was called "The 4400."

I also liked the 4400 :) But the 4400 had "superpowers" and its members spread throughout the world so I think this show will be somewhat different-no powers yet and a small town in Missouri so far at least is the only place the resurrections have occurred.

[Coffee Warlord]

Yeah, sucks 4400 got canceled when it did.

[Matthean]

Hannibal ep2 was amazing and borderline over the top disgusting. Those sutures.

With Breaking Bad now complete, this is my new series. I might have to burn through season one this weekend. I've enjoyed it so far.

[Radii]

Hannibal ep2 was amazing and borderline over the top disgusting. Those sutures.

That was a really rough scene to watch. I also like that they're showing a bit more of what Hannibal does instead of just implying all of it like last season. It seems an appropriate escalation for this season.


With Breaking Bad now complete, this is my new series. I might have to burn through season one this weekend. I've enjoyed it so far.

Excellent! Its the best looking show on TV I think.

[mckerney]

Louie is coming back on May 5th with FX airing 2 episodes back to back each week.

[stevew]

That makes me so happy I'm going to go shit in a tub.

[EagleFan]

That makes me so happy I'm going to go shit in a tub.

Don't let him fool you, he was going to do that no matter what.

[chadritt]

Because when the major driving force of your show is already burning himself out you want to make sure to blow through episodes twice as fast??

[jeff061]

Love Louie so much. It's like my brain hashed out on a table and turned into a show.

[stevew]

Because when the major driving force of your show is already burning himself out you want to make sure to blow through episodes twice as fast??

Yeah, not sure how I feel about that either. 7 straight weeks of double episodes is great. But that means like 45+ weeks of no new episodes.

[stevew]

Dunno about this NBC Crisis show, but I'm buying all the Lance Gross stock. He looks like Will Smith and Martin Lawrence had a baby. He could play both of the cops in Bad Boys. Needs to get away from Tyler Perry though.

[Matthean]

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[Thomkal]

I'm intrigued by the premise of a new show on the CW tonight called The 100. A nuclear war has devastated Earth leaving its survivors living in space. Nearly a 100 years after the war, resources are dwindling so the leaders decide to send some of the most expendable to Earth to see if it can be repopulated and to free up resources for the more "deserving". This being the CW of course the expendable are juvenile delinquents and young political criminals. Being on the CW, I have my doubts about how long it will last, but worth checking out the first couple episodes I guess:

The 100's Isaiah Washington: "We're Changing The CW Network as We Know It" - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com (http://www.tvguide.com/News/The-100-Isaiah-Washington-1079459.aspx?rss=breakingnews)

[Thomkal]

Anybody still watching The Good Wife? That certainly was a "Wow!" moment at the end there huh? Never saw it coming.

[BishopMVP]

I'm intrigued by the premise of a new show on the CW tonight called The 100. A nuclear war has devastated Earth leaving its survivors living in space. Nearly a 100 years after the war, resources are dwindling so the leaders decide to send some of the most expendable to Earth to see if it can be repopulated and to free up resources for the more "deserving". This being the CW of course the expendable are juvenile delinquents and young political criminals. Being on the CW, I have my doubts about how long it will last, but worth checking out the first couple episodes I guess:

The 100's Isaiah Washington: "We're Changing The CW Network as We Know It" - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com (http://www.tvguide.com/News/The-100-Isaiah-Washington-1079459.aspx?rss=breakingnews)I caught the first episode of this. Decent premise, but pretty much all the "teenage" a.k.a. mid-20's actors were terrible.

[Thomkal]

I caught the first episode of this. Decent premise, but pretty much all the "teenage" a.k.a. mid-20's actors were terrible.

well I thought the lead female "teenager" was good, others though not so much, adults not that great either. I'll be watching a couple more episodes to see if things get better both acting and plot wise. I think it could be getting better with the events taking place on the Ark with what they revealed about its status in the first episode.

[stevew]

Very satisfying conclusion to the first season of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I didn't realize that was the last new episode already until the fall. Jake as an undercover informant should lead to a bevy of new material. Andre Braugher was excellent all season.

[Solecismic]

Anybody still watching The Good Wife? That certainly was a "Wow!" moment at the end there huh? Never saw it coming.

I'm down to four broadcast network shows, but this is one of them. Amazing that they could keep that secret for an entire year.

It is turning into a one-trick pony show, though (magic investigators always getting people to talk at just the right moment). I will definitely use the final episodes of this season to determine whether I'll tune in next season. It's never good when the show-runners are openly laughing at the viewers, like with the Bogdanovich cameo. And don't get me started on the NSA subplot.

[chadritt]

Very satisfying conclusion to the first season of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I didn't realize that was the last new episode already until the fall. Jake as an undercover informant should lead to a bevy of new material. Andre Braugher was excellent all season.

I wound up loving this show. Im really glad its coming back next season.

[Thomkal]

I'm down to four broadcast network shows, but this is one of them. Amazing that they could keep that secret for an entire year.

It is turning into a one-trick pony show, though (magic investigators always getting people to talk at just the right moment). I will definitely use the final episodes of this season to determine whether I'll tune in next season. It's never good when the show-runners are openly laughing at the viewers, like with the Bogdanovich cameo. And don't get me started on the NSA subplot.

for whatever reason this show's writing just "clicks" for me-the actors seem to have a great rapport with each other and know their characters inside and out. Even the guest stars mostly seem to be perfect choices. Having said that the NSA subplot is the weakest part of the show-not sure why they went there. Love the actor who's investigating the voting box scandal.

Have to wait and see how much that rapport is disrupted now. The show's been on a while now, so it probably needed a spark like this to give it new life.

[larrymcg421]

Very satisfying conclusion to the first season of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I didn't realize that was the last new episode already until the fall. Jake as an undercover informant should lead to a bevy of new material. Andre Braugher was excellent all season.

Agreed. By the end of the season, they had such a great handle on each of the characters and their relationships. I love this show and can't wait for it to come back.

[stevew]

I love Hannibal but the constant "Hannibal dunking on everyone" montage has gotta go. Even if he's in a mental hospital I feel like Graham telling the fake Julie Chen chick to check out his apartment is enough to get the FBI to seek a warrant. Maybe Hannibal cleaned out everything but they would have visited him. Also nobody has access to that much lexan. I was talking to someone else and wondered if the audience was actually hamstrung by out knowledge of the Hannibal character. Finally jack Crawford is fn horrible at his job and is may be qualified enough to take the Sargent's exam at Miami Metro but wouldn't still have a job with the FBI

[Radii]

http://i.imgur.com/ROjCDob.gif

That's really all I have to say about that ;)

No, seriously, I'm nowhere near that point yet. Everything about last night's episode was just fucking outstanding to me, no real concerns about Dexter or The Following levels of stupidity creeping in.

Perhaps it was just the adrenaline/excitement from seeing the dead body on display this week (avoiding spoilers etc) that carried me through the rest without thinking too hard, b/c hooooooooooooooly shit that was well done.

[BishopMVP]

well I thought the lead female "teenager" was good, others though not so much, adults not that great either. I'll be watching a couple more episodes to see if things get better both acting and plot wise. I think it could be getting better with the events taking place on the Ark with what they revealed about its status in the first episode.Yeah, she was better than most of them, and I'll be sticking with the show for a few weeks because I'm a sucker for shows like that, but it doesn't help when the writers have them playfully going swimming and fully submerging themselves in water after what happened last week.

Justified definitely had an Oh, Shit! moment this week, but one thing's been bugging me about it.I have no problem believing that Wynn Duffy's henchman/tennis pro would miss the explosives in the cigarette pack, but the US Marshals arrested them on suspicion of shooting a lawman... you'd think they wouldn't let some explosives slip by them when they were booking them.Overall, a good season, but the Ava in prison storyline is a pretty big misstep by the writers imo. Find myself wanting to fast-forward through all her scenes unless Boyd or Raylan are visiting her.

[Chief Rum]

Yeah, she was better than most of them, and I'll be sticking with the show for a few weeks because I'm a sucker for shows like that, but it doesn't help when the writers have them playfully going swimming and fully submerging themselves in water after what happened last week.

Justified definitely had an Oh, Shit! moment this week, but one thing's been bugging me about it.[spoiler]I have no problem believing that Wynn Duffy's henchman/tennis pro would miss the explosives in the cigarette pack, but the US Marshals arrested them on suspicion of shooting a lawman... you'd think they wouldn't let some explosives slip by them when they were booking them.Overall, a good season, but the Ava in prison storyline is a pretty big misstep by the writers imo. Find myself wanting to fast-forward through all her scenes unless Boyd or Raylan are visiting her.[/QUOTE]

Your spoilery efforts get a fail lol

[Radii]

The Ava storyline is the biggest mis-step justified has made in their entire run I think. The Crowe's as the bad guys for the season isn't really working that well for me either. Still fun to watch, but I definitely feel like this season doesn't quite hold up to the last 3 in a row which were all great. I'm sure they'll knock the final season out of the park still, so its all good.

[BishopMVP]

Your spoilery efforts get a fail lolD'oh! At least I waited until Saturday to watch and post. :lol:

[Chief Rum]

D'oh! At least I waited until Saturday to watch and post. :lol:

:D

You saved it!

[OldGiants]

The Ava storyline is the biggest mis-step justified has made in their entire run I think. The Crowe's as the bad guys for the season isn't really working that well for me either. Still fun to watch, but I definitely feel like this season doesn't quite hold up to the last 3 in a row which were all great. I'm sure they'll knock the final season out of the park still, so its all good.

Agreed, not bad by any means, but few great moments. The resolution of the '21 foot rule' was up to past standards, however the rest of it is simply good, not great.

None of the female characters has put in a full shift so far, and Boyd has not been around enough, too. Having the characters run to Limehouse, or even Constable Bob, would thicken the plots for the final episode.

[Draft Dodger]

I, for one, can do without another Limehouse visit.

Haven't loved this season either. I like Michael Rappaport, but he just hasn't clicked for me. The drug stuff has been incredibly convoluted, the prison stuff has been lame, the conflict between Art and Raylon never really materialized into anything all that interesting and that mopey kid drives me up the wall. Many great individual moments as always, but the overall story has been kind of blah.

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Well Justified seems to be on an odd-season decent/even-season fantastic pattern so hopefully it will go out with a bang.

Probably my least favorite season so far. It just hasn't gone anywhere interesting or worthwhile.

[OldGiants]

I thought Dickie Bennett was dead, but there he was last week in jail. Where we left him. Another character I'd like to see make a comeback, but alas, I doubt it.

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Just read Graham Yost's AMA on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/21xrh4/i_am_graham_yost_showrunner_of_justified_and_you/) - he seemed to indicate we haven't seen the last of many characters (Dickie explicitly)

Characters he says it would strange if we didn't see again: Dickie, Limehouse, Winona, Bob
Also hints that Quarles isn't dead.

[BishopMVP]

Well Justified seems to be on an odd-season decent/even-season fantastic pattern so hopefully it will go out with a bang.

Probably my least favorite season so far. It just hasn't gone anywhere interesting or worthwhile.Idk, I liked 2, 3 and 4, and even the end of season 1 once they got past the procedural feel. I think part of the problem with this season is that the extended Crowe family just seems like the Bennett family 2.0, both in terms of the individual members and their relationship with Boyd and Raylan. Alicia Witt is no Margo Martindale, but if S2 and S5 were flipped we'd probably look back more fondly on the Crowe season and question the Bennett arc. As much as I love the show, it's why it makes sense to end it after 6 seasons - without wildly expanding the world, there's only so many crime families you can have in the Harlan County area with ties to Raylan's past. I would however absolutely be down for Raylan Givens popping up on Hawaii 5-0 and CSI Miami or a spin-off featuring Tim and Rachel (True Detective Season 2?)

I would be surprised if Quarles is still alive. Raylan isn't the type to execute a criminal, but I also don't think he or Limehouse were in any hurry to call an ambulance or tourniquet that wound, and Quarles was gushing blood after getting dis"armed". Now if Ice Pick Nix or Jackie Nevada want to re-appear, yes please.

[General Mike]

Business just picked up on Agents of SHIELD. I figured Person X was going to be the "Big Bad" when I looked up their comic background a while ago.

Victoria Hand

[OldGiants]

Just finished this week's Justified and it was very good.

Some of the best lines in a while:

"This is the worst job ever!"

Dewey saying, "When I gave you that, the anus is on you to protect it."

That and his gas stealing scene are top notch.

Season Finale looks to be solid, too.

[Radii]

Don't forget Raylan telling Dewey that he shouldn't be speaking in the third person. I love Dewey Crowe, I hope he doesn't die along with Daryl next week (surely that's what will happen right?) Any episode that puts Raylan and Boyd in the same room as frequently as this one did is going to be pretty good.

[BishopMVP]

Don't forget Raylan telling Dewey that he shouldn't be speaking in the third person. I love Dewey Crowe, I hope he doesn't die along with Daryl next week (surely that's what will happen right?) Any episode that puts Raylan and Boyd in the same room as frequently as this one did is going to be pretty good.Don't see how Dewey Crowe would die too... he'll be in prison and ideally re-united with his BFF Dickie. Ava could also die, but if they were intending for her death to be powerful or be the catalyst for next season's (presumed) Raylan-Boyd showdown they've messed that up.

[Radii]

Ava could also die, but if they were intending for her death to be powerful or be the catalyst for next season's (presumed) Raylan-Boyd showdown they've messed that up.


Yup. I'm curious if anyone likes the Ava storyline. I thought she was a pretty solid character the first four seasons, she's dangerously close to "I'll just fastforward when I see her on screen" status now for me. :(

[OldGiants]

The Ava story line only became relevant with this last episode, IMO. I don't think Boyd has really given up on her, and we will see that in the last episode. Her now being desperate adds to the pressure.

I, too, love Dewey Crowe. And I like the idea of him and Dickie B getting together in jail.

[stevew]

Veep-
I'd give the premiere a solid A and I can't wait for this season to continue. I'm assuming that there will be some sort of bad deal made to incorporate the Jo-Nad into the VP camp. I could watch a 4 minute reel of Jonah insults that didn't make TV...someone needs to do this. JLD is freaking great.

Silicon Valley-
Very promising A-/B+ type start. Mike Judge has a great track record and I really like the cast a lot. Looking forward i'd say it's way more likely to be an A quality type show. So much material to satarize.

[rowech]

Veep-
I'd give the premiere a solid A and I can't wait for this season to continue. I'm assuming that there will be some sort of bad deal made to incorporate the Jo-Nad into the VP camp. I could watch a 4 minute reel of Jonah insults that didn't make TV...someone needs to do this. JLD is freaking great.

Silicon Valley-
Very promising A-/B+ type start. Mike Judge has a great track record and I really like the cast a lot. Looking forward i'd say it's way more likely to be an A quality type show. So much material to satarize.

I've tried Veep 5 times now and I'm not understanding the love for that show at all.

[larrymcg421]

Loved the Veep premiere. Also, the Shameless finale was a great end to their best season yet.

[Thomkal]

In case you missed it, Warehouse 13 returned this week, sadly with its last few episodes. :( Expecting a wild ride the rest of the way if the first episode was any indication. There was one big wow moment about 20 minutes in that was pretty cool actually

[Honolulu_Blue]

Fargo starts tonight on FX.

Orphan Black starts Saturday night.

My TV schedule is becoming a bit tight now:

Mondays: Clear
Tuesday: Shield + Fargo
Wednesday: Americans
Thursday: Clear
Friday: Hannibal
Saturday: Orphan Black
Sunday: Game of Thrones, Veep and Silicon Valley.

The only show I watch live is GoT. The rest are DVR'd and watched in the morning before work.

Throw in the NHL playoffs and, like Prince Humperdink before his wedding, I'm swamped.

[BishopMVP]

Mondays: Clear
Tuesday: Shield + Fargo
Wednesday: Americans
Thursday: Clear
Friday: Hannibal
Saturday: Orphan Black
Sunday: Game of Thrones, Veep and Silicon Valley.

The only show I watch live is GoT. The rest are DVR'd and watched in the morning before work.

Throw in the NHL playoffs and, like Prince Humperdink before his wedding, I'm swamped.I really think The Shield has really gone downhill since Season 7. Vic Mackey doing paperwork just isn't that exciting. (jk, I know you meant Agents of Shield.)

Hopefully Boston can do you a favor and ensure there aren't too many Red Wings games you have to watch!

[vex]

Just started watching Orphan Black (Season 1), love it!

[stevew]

That whole burger king bit on Silicon Valley really cracked me up.

[DaddyTorgo]

That whole burger king bit on Silicon Valley really cracked me up.

It was funny. The show amuses me at times - although the stereotypical friends are "eh."

[Bigsmooth]

Loved the Veep premiere. Also, the Shameless finale was a great end to their best season yet.

Just wrapped up Shameless season four, marathon style. I agree, best season yet which is saying a lot.

Also, just catching up on Hannibal. What an amazing show if you can suspend reality a bit (Dexter style) about the sheer volume of crazy murders/serial killers.

The actor playing Hannibal does such a great job...chilling stuff.

[terpkristin]

So I watched the first episode of True Detective tonight. Creepy. And Matthew McI'mNotGoingToTryToSpellIt looks ill. I realize he lost the weight to film Dallas Buyer's Club but man does he look awful. I'm not sure on the show FOR ME. It might be too much.

From the talk here, sounds like Silicon Valley will be more my speed. :D

/tk

[stevew]

Spoiler Alert-
Dude who played Peter Gregory is dead in real life. Dunno if his scenes were filmed or not.

[Logan]

Tonight's Parks and Rec finale was amazing.

[Radii]

Tonight's Parks and Rec finale was amazing.

Absolutely, such a great episode.

"Hey! I'm on Endor!"

[chadritt]

Tonight's Parks and Rec finale was amazing.

+1, i loved it. Its one of my favorite shows on tv, certainly the #1 comedy for me.

[rowech]

Tonight's Parks and Rec finale was amazing.

They should have saved that episode for the series finale. It would have gone down as one of the all-time greats in TV history.

[Logan]

They should have saved that episode for the series finale. It would have gone down as one of the all-time greats in TV history.

From reading the interview Mike Schur did with Sepinwall (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/parks-and-recreation-mike-schur-on-the-eventful-season-finale), it seems like they sort of treated this like it was, with the added bonus of giving the show some new life for the likely last season. Seems like they knew that they were out of quality material in the current point in time. I guess that's what happens when you spend five and a half years never knowing if you'll get a chance to come back with more in the fall.

[EagleFan]

Just started watching Orphan Black (Season 1), love it!

Watched the first episode yesterday. It has promise and I know I will watch more episodes just because of the lead character (she defines the word hot).

[stevew]

I forgot to tape it, but last night's CSI was supposedly a backdoor pilot for a new show.

[Draft Dodger]

I hate those

[DanGarion]

Spoiler Alert-
Dude who played Peter Gregory is dead in real life. Dunno if his scenes were filmed or not.

Huh?

[stevew]

Huh?

The guy who plays Peter Gregory died in December. I'd assume the show was finished filming by then.

[stevew]

I'm hoping Will Graham is up to shenanigans. That "slice the ginger" line was great.

Good to see Mason Verger, even if it's a bit early to introduce him.

[Bigsmooth]

I'm hoping Will Graham is up to shenanigans. That "slice the ginger" line was great.

Good to see Mason Verger, even if it's a bit early to introduce him.

That episode was pretty bizarre. Is Graham really killing fools now?

[Radii]

That episode was pretty bizarre. Is Graham really killing fools now?


Saw a review suggesting that we're just being shown the same deception that Hannibal is seeing... somehow. The first guy yeah he killed but self defense. If Will did that "display" or the other one though, thats a problem to me, and I pretty much want to see it revealed what's actually happening very very soon (ie. first 10 minutes of next episode needs to feature Will and Freddie Lounds talking or something).

Definitely disliked this episode, probably the first one I've completely outright disliked. I don't like the new storyline they're introducing yet either with the pig farmer dude and his sister. So far that just seems like two strange characters being pretentious and weird and evil with no story that I care about to make that ok. It could get there though.

[stevew]

You never saw Hannibal the movie? Michael Pitt's character is bonkers.

[Radii]

You never saw Hannibal the movie? Michael Pitt's character is bonkers.

Only Silence of the Lambs.

[stevew]

Only Silence of the Lambs.

This character is the main villain of Hannibal the movie and those pigs factor in prominently.

I doubt they'll reveal the top secret plan with Frankie but I'm assuming Graham has either begged her to dissapear for safety or has locked her away. I think Graham figures the only way to get Letter is to 100% make him believe they are on the same level.

[Thomkal]

Is it too early to start the 2015 TV Thread? :) And are you ready for some Batman...before there was a Batman?

Fox Orders Batman Prequel ‘Gotham’ to Series | Variety (http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/gotham-batman-fox-1201172226/)

In other Fox news, very disappointed they did not renew Almost Human for a second season. :(

[vex]

In other Fox news, very disappointed they did not renew Almost Human for a second season. :(

Yeah, I wish they had given it another season to develop.

[sterlingice]

Sadly, it was one of those shows were I saw it a couple of times and liked it but knew it would get the axe so I didn't make it a part of regular viewing

SI

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Is it too early to start the 2015 TV Thread? :) And are you ready for some Batman...before there was a Batman?

Fox Orders Batman Prequel ‘Gotham’ to Series | Variety (http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/gotham-batman-fox-1201172226/)

In other Fox news, very disappointed they did not renew Almost Human for a second season. :(

I have the same comment for that news that I had when I first heard about Smallville.

A: "Hey. What's the most interesting thing about Clark Kent?"

B: "That's easy. He's Superman."

A: "What we should do is take that interesting thing about him away and make a TV series out of it!"

You can apply that same jackass logic to Gotham.