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Qwikshot
05-06-2003, 04:08 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2003-05-06-charlotte-nickname_x.htm

Charlotte narrows nickname list to three
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Charlotte's new NBA team is ready to take Flight. Maybe.
Charlotte "Flight" was one of three finalists announced Tuesday for the name of Bob Johnson's expansion franchise. "Bobcats" and "Dragons" are also being considered.

"We have three distinct possibilities with those names, three distinct directions we can go in," said team vice president Ed Tapscott. "We're looking for something that's unique, something that people will respond positively to and something that will offer us the ability to effectively merchandise our product."

A winner is to be announced next month after feedback from the public. However, Johnson, who paid $300 million for the expansion team, will make the final decision.

"Flight" would link to North Carolina's status as "First in Flight," a motto found on the state's license plates. This year marks the centennial of Wilbur and Orville Wright's first powered flight on North Carolina's Outer Banks.

"Bobcats" would be a nod to Johnson and would continue the feline theme established by Charlotte's other pro team, the NFL Panthers.

"Dragons" has no obvious local link.

"Bobcats is a more traditional name, it's animal, a cat and it is indigenous to this country," Tapscott said. "Dragons is not used by any other pro sports team in this country. It's a mystical figure, so it represents quite a bit of freedom to do some interesting logo and merchandising concepts.

"And Flight is a concept name. Of course here in North Carolina it is part of the license plate and it gives us a unique branding element."

The team is to begin play in 2004-05, taking the place of the Hornets, who moved to New Orleans last year.

The three finalists for the team name were whittled down from a list of nearly 1,200 suggestions the team received from the community. Johnson's group used several focus groups and spent nearly $100,000 researching the names and their trademark status and designing possible logos.

Team officials cut the list to 10 to 12 names, then matched them with potential colors, graphic designs and mascots.

Johnson has hired Chicago's NVU Productions to help develop the logos.

Noticeably missing from the list of finalists was "Cougars," a nickname widely speculated to be the frontrunner because of Charlotte's old ABA team.

"You have some folks who really buy into Cougars," Tapscott said. "The age demographic that goes for Cougars is a slightly older age demographic, people who recognize the Cougars from the ABA days.

"But among a lot of the younger people, there was not a lot of reference to the Cougars."

Initial reaction on local Internet message boards to the three finalists was lukewarm.

"Those names are all horrible," one posting read. "I really hope the team somehow ends up with a name that is not now on the final list."

That's what happened in 1987 when owner George Shinn was naming his Charlotte NBA team.

Originally "Spirit" was selected, but Shinn changed it to Hornets, a name sparked by General Charles Cornwallis during the Revolutionary War.


Here's my complaint, why haven't the New Orlean Hornets change their name to the Voodoo! I think that's a great name for a franchise...anyone with me on this?!?

JeeberD
05-06-2003, 04:10 PM
Those all stink...

Doug5984
05-06-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Qwikshot

Here's my complaint, why haven't the New Orlean Hornets change their name to the Voodoo! I think that's a great name for a franchise...anyone with me on this?!?

I am pretty sure the new arena football team that will start playing in new orleans (next season?) will be the New Orleans Voodoo. I really wish we could get the name Jazz back....seems like it fits New Orleans a little better than Utah.

Ksyrup
05-06-2003, 04:12 PM
All teams in Louisiana should be named the Swamp Rats.

tucker342
05-06-2003, 04:20 PM
All of those names suck

Franklinnoble
05-06-2003, 04:29 PM
How about calling them the "Sucks?"

Now there's a concept name with potential.

Critch
05-06-2003, 04:30 PM
Charlotte's Web would be a good name.

Franklinnoble
05-06-2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Critch
Charlotte's Web would be a good name.

Gay

sterlingice
05-06-2003, 04:32 PM
The New Orleans Flight sounds like some stupid WNBA team. How can you possibly expect people to take your team seriously when your team name has serious credibility issues?

Thankfully baseball, football, hockey, and basketball teams were named a while ago as the new names are hit and miss. Devil Rays? Diamondbacks? Those are pretty bad. Marlins and Rockies were pretty good, tho, as were Jags and Panthers. Heck, I really think the Lightning and Hurricanes are good. But the Wild?

SI

Ksyrup
05-06-2003, 04:33 PM
Charlotte Harlots.

Think of the mascot possibilities.

And the theme song could be the Iron Maiden song.

Ksyrup
05-06-2003, 04:36 PM
I like the Diamondbacks. More creative than Rattlers. Or Snakes. And it certainly fits with Arizona.

I was living in Central Florida when the Devil Rays name was chosen. The biggest complaint was that the word "devil" was used, and "ray" backwards spells Yar, the devil's dog. Got the religious folks all up in arms. Seriously.

JeeberD
05-06-2003, 04:40 PM
Yar, huh? Is the devil's dog a pirate dog? Does he have a patch over one eye?

"Yarrrr...where's me chew toy, matey..?"

Kodos
05-06-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Ksyrup
Charlotte Harlots.

Think of the mascot possibilities.

And the theme song could be the Iron Maiden song.


Damn it! Ya beat me to it!

bryce
05-06-2003, 04:46 PM
i know the answer to this question is undoubtedly money, but what are the gory details behind the logic of moving charlotte to new orleans and then making charlotte start all over with another expansion team, rather than just giving the expansion team to NO and keeping the hornets in charlotte?

Franklinnoble
05-06-2003, 04:48 PM
Same deal with the Baltimore-Cleveland NFL fiasco.

Cringer
05-06-2003, 04:56 PM
Personally i like Dragons, always a name i use when making up team names in sports games, Cougars would be good too, but i;m a WSU fan.......New Orleans should be Spiders....i just like how it sounds, the s's roll into each other and there is NO Spiders pro team around now days

ice4277
05-06-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
The New Orleans Flight sounds like some stupid WNBA team. SI

That was exactly the thought that went through my mind when I saw that name as well. Pretty pathetic choices, they all sound like minor-league team names.

sterlingice
05-06-2003, 05:12 PM
"Dragons" has no obvious local link.
I love this quote from the story. "Hm... I suppose the mythical creatures have no local link."

SI

cthomer5000
05-06-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by bryce
i know the answer to this question is undoubtedly money, but what are the gory details behind the logic of moving charlotte to new orleans and then making charlotte start all over with another expansion team, rather than just giving the expansion team to NO and keeping the hornets in charlotte?


I agree completely. It shows how screwed up the NBA is. As they were allowing the Hornets to leave, they were promising an expansion team ... Uhh, why not just sell the Hornets to the new owner, and let the old Hornets owner take over the expansion team in New Orleans?


I think all sports leagues should be run like this:

1. Owner informs league of desire to move team.
2. League attempts to sell that team at market value and keep it local.
3. If a new owner cannot be found within a resaonable time (1 season), the league then allows the owner to move the team.

That way only markets that truly can support teams will keep them, and you won't see any moving for purely financial motives (the new orleans move, cleveland browns, winnipeg jets). I think this would be most fair for the fans and owners.

cthomer5000
05-06-2003, 06:56 PM
dola.


and yes, all those names totally suck.

Qwikshot
05-06-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
The New Orleans Flight sounds like some stupid WNBA team. How can you possibly expect people to take your team seriously when your team name has serious credibility issues?

Thankfully baseball, football, hockey, and basketball teams were named a while ago as the new names are hit and miss. Devil Rays? Diamondbacks? Those are pretty bad. Marlins and Rockies were pretty good, tho, as were Jags and Panthers. Heck, I really think the Lightning and Hurricanes are good. But the Wild?

SI

It would be the Charlotte Flight, not New Orleans...New Orleans is staying as the Hornets (though I think it should be changed to the Voodoo).

And yes I think all three names stink...

And yes I think SI meant Charlotte when he said New Orleans...but I'm clarifying anyway.

Qwikshot
05-06-2003, 07:22 PM
dola


I like the name Wild...I like the logo...I like the colors...it's one of the better ones...god the Toronto Raptors?!? Ick...

Jets80
05-06-2003, 07:51 PM
All three names do suck. The public opinion here in charlotte has expressed that same feeling on the local sports radio shows.

Flame Eater
05-06-2003, 08:28 PM
"Dragons is not used by any other pro sports team in this country"

New York Dragons of the Arena Football League...they DO get paid...therefore they ARE professionals by definition.

Hey! I'm just reporting the news! Get off my back!

Easy Mac
05-06-2003, 08:29 PM
Actually, having lived 40 miles from Charlotte for 8 yearso f my life, it is obvious USA Today has no idea what they are talking about.

The Charlotte AAA baseball team is known as the Knights. Their mascot is Homer the Dragon. I think it would be good to reach out to their fans and keeping with the local feel of the name.

At least research something before you print something unfactual.

superbama
05-06-2003, 08:50 PM
Go ahead and call them the flight, they'll probably be taking flight to another city in 10 years. ouch. :)

sterlingice
05-06-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Qwikshot
It would be the Charlotte Flight, not New Orleans...New Orleans is staying as the Hornets (though I think it should be changed to the Voodoo).

And yes I think all three names stink...

And yes I think SI meant Charlotte when he said New Orleans...but I'm clarifying anyway.

Oops- that's what I meant, yeah.

SI

JeeberD
05-06-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by cthomer5000
Uhh, why not just sell the Hornets to the new owner, and let the old Hornets owner take over the expansion team in New Orleans?


From what I recall, Shipp refused to sell the Hornets. He was the only reason that they didn't get a new arena (the Charlotte citizens hate him and refused to vote for the referendum), and I guess to get back at them he kept the team. I'm pretty sure the NBA tried to get him to sell it...

jerem77
05-07-2003, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Doug5984
I am pretty sure the new arena football team that will start playing in new orleans (next season?) will be the New Orleans Voodoo. I really wish we could get the name Jazz back....seems like it fits New Orleans a little better than Utah.

Utah and New Orleans should switch nicknames. Hornets would be a better nickname for Utah too since it is the honey bee state.

While I'm at it Los Angeles should give the Lakers name back to Minnesota. :P

cthomer5000
05-07-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by JeeberD
From what I recall, Shipp refused to sell the Hornets. He was the only reason that they didn't get a new arena (the Charlotte citizens hate him and refused to vote for the referendum), and I guess to get back at them he kept the team. I'm pretty sure the NBA tried to get him to sell it...


but the league runs the league!!! argghgh!

tell him, "you're not moving the fucking franchise, period. If you move, we're going to put a new team there anyway, so we'll save ourselves the embarassment. Mr. Shipp, If you're interested in having a team in new orleans, we will allow you to sell the hornets and purchase an expansion team. If you don't comply, we will force you out as owner."

SunDancer
05-07-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by cthomer5000
but the league runs the league!!! argghgh!

tell him, "you're not moving the fucking franchise, period. If you move, we're going to put a new team there anyway, so we'll save ourselves the embarassment. Mr. Shipp, If you're interested in having a team in new orleans, we will allow you to sell the hornets and purchase an expansion team. If you don't comply, we will force you out as owner."


Exactly. The owners vote on if he can move.

mckerney
05-07-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Qwikshot
dola


I like the name Wild...I like the logo...I like the colors...it's one of the better ones...god the Toronto Raptors?!? Ick...

I like the way they play.

Woohoo! 2-0 lead going to another game 7!

mckerney
05-07-2003, 10:13 PM
Dola:

Yes, those names do suck. Most hattrick teams have better names.

That's it! The Charlotte Screamin' Seamen!

Either than or Colossal Squids...