The Official 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

[Logan]

The Rangers actually played much better last night than I expected. I think they only made 3-4 mistakes all night and the Pens, being the good team they are, buried two goals on those.

[The Jackal]

The Rangers actually played much better last night than I expected. I think they only made 3-4 mistakes all night and the Pens, being the good team they are, buried two goals on those.

The narrative is now that they got screwed by the schedule, which is a fair point but isn't the whole story. They didn't look overly sluggish - they just haven't been able to convert on the PP and it's been a game of inches with the posts and hopping pucks (maybe blame the MSG ice for that one!).

The Pens sure retreated into a shell after the Jokinen goal.

[Suburban Rhythm]

The narrative is now that they got screwed by the schedule, which is a fair point but isn't the whole story. They didn't look overly sluggish - they just haven't been able to convert on the PP and it's been a game of inches with the posts and hopping pucks (maybe blame the MSG ice for that one!).

Pierre mentioned during the broadcast that one of the officials said to him this is the best he's ever seen the MSG ice.

The league probably should have made the back to backs Tuesday and Wednesday, both in NY. But, not the league's fault the building is booked Thursday - Saturday

The Pens sure retreated into a shell after the Jokinen goal.

That's the Bylsma MO.

[The Jackal]

Interesting, I didn't hear Pierre mention that. Also didn't watch the whole game, and often try to tune out Pierre. Ice looked terrible during the first round, and it hasn't exactly been chilly in NYC.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Interesting, I didn't hear Pierre mention that. Also didn't watch the whole game, and often try to tune out Pierre. Ice looked terrible during the first round, and it hasn't exactly been chilly in NYC.

I laugh at Pierre.

I avoid the intermission circus.

[The Jackal]

I laugh at Pierre.

I avoid the intermission circus.

I like JR and Keith Jones, for the most part. But I'm a little biased. :D

[JonInMiddleGA]

Predators hire Peter Laviolette as head coach (http://tnne.ws/1o2Wv9E)

[The Jackal]

Predators hire Peter Laviolette as head coach (http://tnne.ws/1o2Wv9E)

I was worried Bylsma would get fired and Lavy would go to PIT. That would've been awkward.

[Suburban Rhythm]

I like JR and Keith Jones, for the most part. But I'm a little biased. :D

Jones doesn't bother me all that much. I loved when NHLNet would have Errey on. Plenty of people can't stand Errey, I love him.

JR...just irritates me. Feels like he's making himself the show, not the game.

And Milbury.....yeah.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Predators hire Peter Laviolette as head coach (http://tnne.ws/1o2Wv9E)

I was worried Bylsma would get fired and Lavy would go to PIT. That would've been awkward.

Nashville going to be awesome at calling timeouts

[The Jackal]

Nashville going to be awesome at calling timeouts

I guess the Preds feel they need a fire and brimstone kinda coach. Not entirely sure what Trotz' style was - but seems like Lavy has a 2-4 year window until the players start drowning him out. But could certainly help inject some effort into a team, maybe a stopgap while some of their younger guys grow up.

[Logan]

http://i.imgur.com/x4WvEcz.gif

[The Jackal]

Yeah I saw that this morning, funny/douchey.

[Grover]

Feel like I needed acid for that opener in Montreal just now.

[Dr. Sak]

Jones doesn't bother me all that much. I loved when NHLNet would have Errey on. Plenty of people can't stand Errey, I love him.
.

Errey is fine when you get him away from that jackass baffoon.

[DaddyTorgo]

Bruins are a shit sandwich against MTL.

WTF

[Suburban Rhythm]

Errey is fine when you get him away from that jackass baffoon.

:+1:

and by 1, I mean 1 trillion

[Suburban Rhythm]

I'll probably feel totally different if the ECF ends up MTL-PIT, but how can you not like Subban? Can play for my team any day.

[stevew]

I'll probably feel totally different if the ECF ends up MTL-PIT, but how can you not like Subban? Can play for my team any day.

Question, is Mark Andre Flurry the worst goalie in the league and a fucking retard or is his an impenetrable fortress could withstand the powerful forces of a 40 day flood. Ever since my Facebook feed got all top stories'd up, I can't figure out whether these posts are new or old. I'm confused.

Also, what's up with Sid?

And did the flyers guys pick up their golf bags?

[Suburban Rhythm]

Question, is Mark Andre Flurry the worst goalie in the league and a fucking retard or is his an impenetrable fortress could withstand the powerful forces of a 40 day flood. Ever since my Facebook feed got all top stories'd up, I can't figure out whether these posts are new or old. I'm confused.

Yes.

I did question the other night - MAF back to back shutouts, Sid scored, Letang playing well, and Pedro hit a HR. I was curious who the worst player on the Riverhounds was, because I need to know who it will be cool to hate next.

Also, what's up with Sid?

He was very mediocre in the CBJ series.

He was a beast in game 2 of this series, though nothing to show for it.

He was good, and scored, in game 3.

Trending up

And did the flyers guys pick up their golf bags?

We don't talk about this here. You clearly didn't read the FOFC sensitivity training handbook.

[henry296]

Yes.

I did question the other night - MAF back to back shutouts, Sid scored, Letang playing well, and Pedro hit a HR. I was curious who the worst player on the Riverhounds was, because I need to know who it will be cool to hate next.




Is it Colbert/Tomlin's turn to be hated when they mess up the draft on Thursday?

[stevew]

Is it Colbert/Tomlin's turn to be hated when they mess up the draft on Thursday?

well, that's a given. They gotta keep this 8-8 juggernaut together.

[Dr. Sak]

Hextall is the new GM of the Flyers.

Homer moved to club president.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Hextall is the new GM of the Flyers.

Homer moved to club president.

Country club?

;)

[The Jackal]

Hextall is the new GM of the Flyers.

Homer moved to club president.

Good. Can we void the MacD contract?

[The Jackal]

And did the flyers guys pick up their golf bags?

As long as Giroux isn't playing any golf, it's all good.

[Dr. Sak]

It appears that $5000 fine did a lot to deter Mr. Lucic from doing it again...

Report: Habs brass angry over another Lucic ‘spear’ on Emelin | ProHockeyTalk (http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/07/report-habs-brass-angry-over-another-lucic-spear-on-emelin/)

[Suburban Rhythm]

It appears that $5000 fine did a lot to deter Mr. Lucic from doing it again...

Report: Habs brass angry over another Lucic ‘spear’ on Emelin | ProHockeyTalk (http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/07/report-habs-brass-angry-over-another-lucic-spear-on-emelin/)

Shawn Thornton wants a word with you

[Blackadar]

Bruins are a shit sandwich against MTL.

WTF

Not surprised. The Bruins once lost 17 straight playoff series against the Canadians.

[DaddyTorgo]

Not surprised. The Bruins once lost 17 straight playoff series against the Canadians.

Very true.

For someone who was one of, if not the, best goalie in the league all year though, Rask has looked bad vs. MTL.

I think a large part of it is MTL's speed, but overall the team has just not played well.

[BishopMVP]

I'll probably feel totally different if the ECF ends up MTL-PIT, but how can you not like Subban? Can play for my team any day.I like watching him play alot. He did have those 1-2 flops, but for a Canadien that few is downright saintly. Give me the guys who play with emotion and excitement every day of the week.For someone who was one of, if not the, best goalie in the league all year though, Rask has looked bad vs. MTL.

I think a large part of it is MTL's speed, but overall the team has just not played well.Shurg, we outshot them all 3 games, including Game 1 where we outshot them by 20 and missed 2-3 wide open nets. I'd be happier if we were up 2-1, but let's not start changing everything up and turning to Chad Johnson just yet. (Unless that involves getting Lucic off Krejci's line and letting someone who can f'ing finish play next to him.)

[Suburban Rhythm]

I like watching him play alot. He did have those 1-2 flops, but for a Canadien that few is downright saintly. Give me the guys who play with emotion and excitement every day of the week.Shurg, we outshot them all 3 games, including Game 1 where we outshot them by 20 and missed 2-3 wide open nets. I'd be happier if we were up 2-1, but let's not start changing everything up and turning to Chad Johnson just yet. (Unless that involves getting Lucic off Krejci's line and letting someone who can f'ing finish play next to him.)

Did he get injured, but grab the wrong knee after?

[BlackJack]

Game 7. Lets Go Rangers

[stevew]

What's wrong with Sid?

[Logan]

What's wrong with Sid?

He got all wet?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dWXHDNm0uWE/U3AtnplnUNI/AAAAAAAAp-A/xMgA1GEhSP0/s1600/lundqvist+water+bottle+sidney+crosby+GIF.gif

[Suburban Rhythm]

What's wrong with Sid?

Whatever it is, it's Bylsma's fault!

[stevew]

Fucking Kunitz

[BlackJack]

Rangers!

[Dr. Sak]

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[Suburban Rhythm]

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/psychotic rant featuring things like "troll" and "go fuck yourself HERE

(That's what you're supposed to do, right?)

Mentioned to Logan earlier today I didn't build up much, if any, hate in this series. Mad respect for Hank. Just were not going to beat him in 3rd.

Only negative I take out of it...I was a big Nash fan/supporter early in Columbus and onto NY. Thought he got a bad rap. He is really solid defensively, and can skate, but what a dud offensively.

[stevew]

Make sure to call people names and put Sak on ignores

[stevew]

Dola-
The flyers guys are not going to like competing with the Pens for Pennsylvania tee times. Thank god they had a few extra weeks to get some rounds in.

[Logan]

Good series Pens fans. And SR, been fun exchanging messages with you over the course...

Hank was unfuckingreal. Those saves off that massive scrum with 5 mins left, including a deflection off a loose stick in the crease...just insane.

Nash has been streaky during his time in NY but this is ridiculous at this point. Hopefully he snaps out of it. He did up his defensive game, as SR pointed out, in response and I don't think many scorers do that.

Lundqvist stopped 102 of 105 shots faced in these 3 games.

[hoopsguy]

Kaner.
He is really, really patient in tight spaces and seems to come up big in pressure spots.

Wonder if a reporter will ask him if he ever scored an OT goal before tonight?

[Dr. Sak]

One more dig...

Jason Akeson and Dan Carcillo have more playoff goals than Sidney Crosby.

[EagleFan]

The troll gets trolled,... How fitting..... Lolololololololololol

[The Jackal]

As long as the Rangers lose in the next round. I would've rather seen the Penguins won that series.

[Suburban Rhythm]

One more dig...

Jason Akeson and Dan Carcillo have more playoff goals than Sidney Crosby.

He did have the same number of points (6) in the first round as the best player in the world though. So he's got that going for him!

[Suburban Rhythm]

The troll gets trolled,... How fitting..... Lolololololololololol

Some of us can take a joke without losing our shit.

Not all of us, but some of us.

[Dr. Sak]

He did have the same number of points (6) in the first round as the best player in the world though. So he's got that going for him!

You are right but he needed 6 more games to equal it.

[stevew]

Some of us can take a joke without losing our shit.

Not all of us, but some of us.

thank you for not calling people names and telling people to go fuck themselves HERE

[DaddyTorgo]

Really Bruins?? Really??

LAZY FUCKING DEFENSE IN THE FIRST 3 MINUTES AGAIN!!!

Fuck you. I'm almost at the point of saying you deserve to lose this series.

[DaddyTorgo]

This officiating is bullshit though. Seriously.

Not an excuse, but it's really ridiculous.

Honestly though, the Bruins have been outplayed this series. If they're lucky enough to win this game they will have stolen the series. Which is pretty pathetic given how strong they were in the regular season.

[EagleFan]

thank you for not calling people names and telling people to go fuck themselves HERE

Lololololololololololol....

[DaddyTorgo]

Man, for a "defensively responsible" system this Bruins team has looked like shit defensively during this series.

[JAG]

Hank was unfuckingreal. Those saves off that massive scrum with 5 mins left, including a deflection off a loose stick in the crease...just insane.

I'm not a hockey fan, but I was watching that and thought it was amazing.

[Honolulu_Blue]

It's pretty amazing that the Bell Center, Montreal's arena, is "sold out" for tonight's game, which they are just showing on the jumbotron.

[Dr. Sak]

It's pretty amazing that the Bell Center, Montreal's arena, is "sold out" for tonight's game, which they are just showing on the jumbotron.

All are getting a head start to riot after the game

[chadritt]

Damn. If the Kings can't win I wanted it to be Iginla. Maybe he comes to LA next year...

[The Jackal]

I hope the Canadiens sweep the Rangers.

[Suburban Rhythm]

You are right but he needed 6 more games to equal it.

First round chief. 6 points each.

Giroux even got an extra game.

So...where's the centrally located golf course for Flyers, Bruins and Penguins? Buffalo?

[Suburban Rhythm]

#WhatLucicToldWeise trending since last night

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Better team won. Still amazed that the Bruins took it to 7 playing with their heads up their asses.

[DaddyTorgo]

Better team won. Still amazed that the Bruins took it to 7 playing with their heads up their asses.

This. For a team/system that was so defensively-strong all season their defense played like dogshit this series. In how many of the games were they behind after the first 4 minutes?

Fucking pathetic.

[Dr. Sak]

This. For a team/system that was so defensively-strong all season their defense played like dogshit this series. In how many of the games were they behind after the first 4 minutes?

Fucking pathetic.

I'm sure fatigue played a part. They did go to the finals the past 2 years. It happens to a lot of teams.

[Fidatelo]

I love how spoiled fan bases can become. "My perennial powerhouse team just lost in a game 7 in the second round! What a terrible effort! What a bunch of terrible hockey players! Fire the gm/coach/waterboy! Trade all the stars!".

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

It was a terrible effort. Unless I watched the wrong series. The rest of your post, no one is saying.

[DaddyTorgo]

It was a terrible effort. Unless I watched the wrong series. The rest of your post, no one is saying.

Exactly. The effort was horrible. Seriously...how many games in the series did they gave up bad goals in the first 5 minutes of the game? I don't want to even go back and count, but I bet it was at least 4-5 of the 7 games.

You're not going to win often if you have to come from behind that much. And that's why I don't buy the "fatigue" excuse either. These guys were sloppy in the opening 5 minutes of games. If you can't get up for that to not make mistakes there then your effort is the problem, not the fatigue.

Not arguing for trading anyone - even if Krejci, Lucic, and Marchand didn't show up this series. On the contrary - I love what we saw out of Hamilton and Krug. That was probably the highlight of the playoffs for me, was their offensive talent and puck movement.

Soderberg's line was the best line in the series for the Bruins hands-down, his play was awesome. And I damn sure wanna see Iggy back next year - I love the way that line plays with him on it.

Chara better be injured - he just didn't look good.

I thought for pretty much the entirety of the last 4 games the B's were trying to be too cute with the puck. Price got in their heads after they had that one third period where they beat him, he got in their heads early in the next game and got back to just shutting them down and they started over-passing and taking too long on their shots so they'd end up getting blocked or turned-over for odd-man rushes.

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Kind of want to see what Soderberg could do with Iginla and Lucic but Krejci doesn't deserve a demotion despite his disappearing act.

[DaddyTorgo]

Kind of want to see what Soderberg could do with Iginla and Lucic but Krejci doesn't deserve a demotion despite his disappearing act.

I gotta think there's something to having Soderberg on a line with Erikson though - two Swedes who speak the same language, understand the fundamentals in each others games, that sort of thing.

Maybe that's just wishful thinking though.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Exactly. The effort was horrible. Seriously...how many games in the series did they gave up bad goals in the first 5 minutes of the game? I don't want to even go back and count, but I bet it was at least 4-5 of the 7 games.

You're not going to win often if you have to come from behind that much. And that's why I don't buy the "fatigue" excuse either. These guys were sloppy in the opening 5 minutes of games. If you can't get up for that to not make mistakes there then your effort is the problem, not the fatigue.

Not arguing for trading anyone - even if Krejci, Lucic, and Marchand didn't show up this series. On the contrary - I love what we saw out of Hamilton and Krug. That was probably the highlight of the playoffs for me, was their offensive talent and puck movement.

Soderberg's line was the best line in the series for the Bruins hands-down, his play was awesome. And I damn sure wanna see Iggy back next year - I love the way that line plays with him on it.

Chara better be injured - he just didn't look good.

I thought for pretty much the entirety of the last 4 games the B's were trying to be too cute with the puck. Price got in their heads after they had that one third period where they beat him, he got in their heads early in the next game and got back to just shutting them down and they started over-passing and taking too long on their shots so they'd end up getting blocked or turned-over for odd-man rushes.

I truly think this is the beginning of the end. A lot of miles on that body.

He's not a horrible player. He was still a top 5 guy this year. But the regression is going to happen. It's only a matter of it's a gradual fade - he'll still be solid next year - or the bottom totally falls out.

[DaddyTorgo]

I truly think this is the beginning of the end. A lot of miles on that body.

He's not a horrible player. He was still a top 5 guy this year. But the regression is going to happen. It's only a matter of it's a gradual fade - he'll still be solid next year - or the bottom totally falls out.

It wouldn't be the most surprising thing in the world, but I hope not. I didn't really want to put that possibility out there even.

[BishopMVP]

Kind of want to see what Soderberg could do with Iginla and Lucic but Krejci doesn't deserve a demotion despite his disappearing act.Krejci wasn't the problem on that line... how many open looks did Lucic blow, and how often was he showing up late and skating in lazily while Krejci and Iginla were fighting battles along the boards? Plus I am still going with the theory that Krejci was injured some.

Hopefully Chara too. For all the talk of the offense, if Seidenberg was back that probably takes cares of a significant portion of the defensive mistakes. Guys like Bartkowski and Meszaros are what they are, and when injuries force you to play them, it greatly reduces your margin for error.

At the end of the day though, they had a hot goalie, we hit 13? posts and it went 7 games against a pretty good team that beat us 3 out of 4 times in the regular season. If we finish one of those silver platter's in Game 1 maybe we take it in 5 games.

Lastly, don't blame the refs at all for the loss, but I can't understand what they're thinking, and the announcers made the same point. A fucking call for snowing the goalie in a Game 7, multiple holding the stick calls, and fines for squirting water on someone when play isn't happening (the Lundqvist one - Thornton should have been fined for interfering with play from the bench). Meanwhile guys are allowed to slash wrists and sticks with near-impunity, and PK Subban can deliver forearm shivers to the back of players heads every time he "finishes a hit" (and I'm sure you can point out a Bruins player doing something similar). One group of these things is dangerous, and the other is what gets emotions going and makes the playoffs great. Why would the NHL even bother cracking down on the latter - it's Goodell-esque.

[MacroGuru]

One thing I noticed in the Bruins series and you can tell me I am crazy or not, but it has been something I truly believe. The Habs tiny ass players stood up to Chara and wasn't taking any of his shit, sometime when a guy gets used to stuff and it back fires it sets him off his track, I think that happened last night to him. Tiny ass Gallagher was not backing down from Chara and it really rubbed Chara, you could tell..

Then again, I was rooting for Montreal last night as I can't stand Marchand and Lucic and I will be happy not seeing them hoist another cup...ever....

[FrogMan]

Lastly, don't blame the refs at all for the loss, but I can't understand what they're thinking, and the announcers made the same point. A fucking call for snowing the goalie in a Game 7, multiple holding the stick calls, and fines for squirting water on someone when play isn't happening (the Lundqvist one - Thornton should have been fined for interfering with play from the bench). Meanwhile guys are allowed to slash wrists and sticks with near-impunity, and PK Subban can deliver forearm shivers to the back of players heads every time he "finishes a hit" (and I'm sure you can point out a Bruins player doing something similar). One group of these things is dangerous, and the other is what gets emotions going and makes the playoffs great. Why would the NHL even bother cracking down on the latter - it's Goodell-esque.

you mean, like Marchand punching Plekanec on the side of the head when waiting for a face off during a stoppage of play? Or Chara keeping a player pinned to the board for 10 seconds after finishing his hit? ;)

Not sure I've seen anything worse from the Habs players last night than many of the things the Bruins do regularly in their play tough style of play. People are probably just not used to the tiny speedy Habs players playing tough to start the games.

Inconsistency in penalty calling is what has always plagued th league and it didn't get better wwhen they brought a second guy with orange bands into the mix.

I'm a Habs fan by proxy. My son never knew the Nordiques so he grew up a Habs fan. I'm following and cheering for them because of him more than anything. It was a fun series, looking forward to watching more hockey games with my son. :)

FM

[FrogMan]

One thing I noticed in the Bruins series and you can tell me I am crazy or not, but it has been something I truly believe. The Habs tiny ass players stood up to Chara and wasn't taking any of his shit, sometime when a guy gets used to stuff and it back fires it sets him off his track, I think that happened last night to him. Tiny ass Gallagher was not backing down from Chara and it really rubbed Chara, you could tell..


Desharnais is another tiny guy who showed a lot of guts in standing up to Chara for one. That's also one thing that kinda surprised me, how they played hard and pushed it to the Bruins...

FM

[DaddyTorgo]

Price also played well. Beneficiary of some help from the "GK's best friend" but no question in my mind he got in the Bruins' heads.

[FrogMan]

Price also played well. Beneficiary of some help from the "GK's best friend" but no question in my mind he got in the Bruins' heads.

He did play very well in the series. As the dad of a GK, I got one theory about them "GK's best friend". On some of them post shots, sure, it's a matter of luck but on many other instances, like that one yesterday, if the shot ends on the post it's because the goalie covered the angle well and left little room for the player to shoot into...

FM

[DaddyTorgo]

He did play very well in the series. As the dad of a GK, I got one theory about them "GK's best friend". On some of them post shots, sure, it's a matter of luck but on many other instances, like that one yesterday, if the shot ends on the post it's because the goalie covered the angle well and left little room for the player to shoot into...

FM

As a soccer GK I agree with your point about the luck vs. "having the angle covered JUST enough." I don't know what the breakdown is, but it's definitely true.

Still...13 posts in a series...some of those were just pure luck.

But I think he definitely stole them a couple games in the series. Full credit to him.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Lastly, don't blame the refs at all for the loss, but I can't understand what they're thinking, and the announcers made the same point. A fucking call for snowing the goalie in a Game 7, multiple holding the stick calls, and fines for squirting water on someone when play isn't happening (the Lundqvist one - Thornton should have been fined for interfering with play from the bench). Meanwhile guys are allowed to slash wrists and sticks with near-impunity, and PK Subban can deliver forearm shivers to the back of players heads every time he "finishes a hit" (and I'm sure you can point out a Bruins player doing something similar). One group of these things is dangerous, and the other is what gets emotions going and makes the playoffs great. Why would the NHL even bother cracking down on the latter - it's Goodell-esque.

Hockey - yes the NHL, but all levels - replace football (NFL/all levels) more than a handful of years ago as my top interest.

But for the life of me, I can not grasp the NHL's fascination with wanting the grinder to decide games, not the top skill guys. I'm all for hitting, and you can shadow and guy and check him without putting a stick in his back repeatedly. They love to promote the toughness of the playoffs, and I get it, but I want to see Crosby, Malkin, Subban, Krejci, Kane, etc making plays, and goalies making big showy saves. Not the holding and interference. You can have speed and free flow and still have checking and defense.

The NHL is often it's own worst enemy.

Can't imagine the NFL getting to the Super Bowl, and suddenly letting OL hold every play, or DBs tackle WRs downfield, because it's some badge of honor.

One thing I noticed in the Bruins series and you can tell me I am crazy or not, but it has been something I truly believe. The Habs tiny ass players stood up to Chara and wasn't taking any of his shit, sometime when a guy gets used to stuff and it back fires it sets him off his track, I think that happened last night to him. Tiny ass Gallagher was not backing down from Chara and it really rubbed Chara, you could tell..

Then again, I was rooting for Montreal last night as I can't stand Marchand and Lucic and I will be happy not seeing them hoist another cup...ever....

Pretty sure I've mentioned this here before...

During 11-12 and the abbreviated 12-13 season, there were several Pens-Bs game that Chara was targetted - specifically Neal, Kunitz and Dupuis - with every dump in. All went to Chara's corner, and all 3 of those guys finished their check every time. One set was a home-and-home, and by the mid point of game 2, while he didn't freak out, you could tell he was frustrated. Those guys are bigger than Desharnais, Gallagher, etc, but the point remains.

[Suburban Rhythm]

And as for Marchand....

https://vine.co/v/MXeQ5d5h9q7

[FrogMan]

And as for Marchand....

https://vine.co/v/MXeQ5d5h9q7

that's what I was refering to. Thats got to be one of the most gratuitous cheap shot during a stoppage of play that I have seen, maybe forever. We're not talking the referee stopped play, everyone's around and scuffling. It was dead stopped and he just smacked him. That linesman just there doesn't deserve to ref another game in the playoffs this year. Buddy, that's your job to be aware of what's happening in front of your face...

FM

[bbor]

that's what I was refering to. Thats got to be one of the most gratuitous cheap shot during a stoppage of play that I have seen, maybe forever. We're not talking the referee stopped play, everyone's around and scuffling. It was dead stopped and he just smacked him. That linesman just there doesn't deserve to ref another game in the playoffs this year. Buddy, that's your job to be aware of what's happening in front of your face...

FM


That is an F'ing idiot move by Marchand.Steve Avery move over...you are getting company.

[DaddyTorgo]

If Marchy can't put the puck in the net during the playoffs he should keep his fucking hands to himself.

If he puts the puck in the net then he can be a lil chippy/on the edge and I'm okay with it and will defend him.

[stevew]

I love how spoiled fan bases can become. "My perennial powerhouse team just lost in a game 7 in the second round! What a terrible effort! What a bunch of terrible hockey players! Fire the gm/coach/waterboy! Trade all the stars!".

Aka hockey night on Facebook in Pittsburgh.

[BishopMVP]

Inconsistency in penalty calling is what has always plagued th league and it didn't get better wwhen they brought a second guy with orange bands into the mix.It's not inconsistency here, it's that they're specifically choosing to target little things during stoppages in play and ignore the "tough guy" things that actually are dangerous or the things that detract from the skill players. Call hooking tighter, give matching minors if 2 guys are on the ground wrestling too long away from the play, or matching minors for roughing during an after-goal scrum? Fine, but call the slashes, call the guys who finish checks high or target the head in a scrum after the whistle.

I heard the announcers mention the Marchand elbow but didn't see it during the telecast (grilling steaks during stoppages), but absolutely that's what I'm talking about. He should've gotten a penalty for that and probably should be fined for it. Instead he got a penalty for snowing the goalie, a penalty for goalie interference when it at least should have been a matching minor on Markov, and he completely got away with that.

[britrock88]

Now that it's been 24 hours, I feel okay about gloating in the presence of Bs fans.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Suburban Rhythm]

This is 100% real

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/a084fc_0d0f13d7908842ee9819219650722f98.jpg_srz_p_520_410_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz

[FrogMan]

yes, yes, I shared it on FB yesterday...

lucicbook (http://www.notcooltobully.com/)

:D

FM

[BishopMVP]

Now that it's been 24 hours, I feel okay about gloating in the presence of Bs fans.There are people who grew up in America who are Canadiens fans?

[endemicFOF]

Looks like Kings@Blackhawks Sunday afternoon...yes, I'm trying to jinx LA.

[Danny]

What an early performance by the Kings. Now 6-0 this postseason in elimination games

[MacroGuru]

And as for Marchand....

Boston bruins cheap. Marchand #bruins #montreal #gohabsgo (https://vine.co/v/MXeQ5d5h9q7)

Habs player was a better man than me. I would have flipped my shit.

[Danny]

Classy post game by both teams

[The Jackal]

And as for Marchand....

https://vine.co/v/MXeQ5d5h9q7

Wow, first time I've seen this. It's one thing when you've been tussling post-whistle, but that's unacceptable.

[The Jackal]

Go Flyers West

[Warhammer]

Classy post game by both teams

What did they do, I thought the game was going to have a later start time and missed it.

[Danny]

What did they do, I thought the game was going to have a later start time and missed it.

Ducks didnt whine and kings showed extra respect toward Selanne. Mostly just a contrast to Montreal / bosto

[BlackJack]

jesus nyr, save some of those goals for game 2.

[Neuqua]

I have two extra standing room tickets for the Blackhawks game tomorrow if any Chicago folks want to go. Just asking for face value ($100 per).

[Logan]

Carey Price is out for the rest of the series.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Carey Price is out for the rest of the series.

That sucks.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Oof

[britrock88]

There are people who grew up in America who are Canadiens fans?

Most of my mom's family of origin grew up/live just over the Ottawa River, within an hour's drive of Montreal.

[britrock88]

Also, my alternative is the 'Canes...

[Logan]

Hank was unbelievable last night. Turning away those PK blasts like they were nothing.

[The Jackal]

If this ends up being a Hawks-Rangers finals I'm going to be sad. I don't want to have to root for the Hawks to win..

[bhlloy]

a) how the holy hell do you miss that?
b) that should be a reviewable play - Prust should be gone and the Rangers should have a 5 min PP. He'll get suspended but you won't get rid of those hits unless they are punished on the ice

[Logan]

Stepan's jaw broke on the hit. He's having surgery now.

Phone hearing for Prust.

[Suburban Rhythm]

a) how the holy hell do you miss that?
b) that should be a reviewable play - Prust should be gone and the Rangers should have a 5 min PP. He'll get suspended but you won't get rid of those hits unless they are punished severely with long, drastic suspensions that hit the players in the wallet and/or put in doubt their future in the league

Fixed

[bhlloy]

Oh I agree - but the league has consistently shown they aren't willing to make those decisions

Ultimately, if the refs had made the correct call on the ice, there's a very good chance (not sure of the conversion rate on a 5 min pp but it's got to be pretty damn high) that changes the result of the game and the Canadiens are probably done in the series

edit - I wonder if Abdelkader is more worried about the IIHF suspension he's about to get, or the fact that he single handedly cost all his teammates a WC medal. Calling it correctly on the ice should be the first punishment

[Logan]

Carcillo gets 10 for his idiotic contact with the linesman last night.

[Danny]

Kings absolutely dominating the hawks in the last two 3rd periods

[MrBug708]

Boom!

[Danny]

Very impressed with kings with postseason, especially since quick has been surprisingly average overall

[Danny]

Heck of a start for the kings

[sterlingice]

Funny I was going to say "awful start for the Hawks"

SI

[bhlloy]

Late to the party (busy weekend) but Prust got two fucking games for a textbook dirty hit that seriously injured the other player. And yet we have no idea why the head shots are still part of the game...

[Fidatelo]

Yeah two games seemed really light to me as well.

[britrock88]

Phone hearings limit suspensions to what, 5 games? I figured they'd get him out of the series with that. Surprised he'll be back tonight.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Phone hearings limit suspensions to what, 5 games? I figured they'd get him out of the series with that. Surprised he'll be back tonight.

I found it oddly amusing he had a phone hearing while they were already in NY ;)

[Suburban Rhythm]

DOLA

AV and Therien are buddies, right?

Who texted who after the 1st and said "Remember how much people loved that 2012 Penguins - Flyers series?"

[FrogMan]

so, 2 games for John Moore too? At least this time one of the two blinds saw it. Same call should have been made on Prust when he made his hit.

FM

[Logan]

so, 2 games for John Moore too? At least this time one of the two blinds saw it. Same call should have been made on Prust when he made his hit.

FM

That's my guess. Not that it matters in terms of discipline, but I saw courtesy of CBC that Moore's hit was 0.5 seconds after Weise let go of the puck. Prust's was 0.93 seconds.

[Suburban Rhythm]

That's my guess. Not that it matters in terms of discipline, but I saw courtesy of CBC that Moore's hit was 0.5 seconds after Weise let go of the puck. Prust's was 0.93 seconds.

Yeah, read the same in a tweet from Elliotte Friedman

Trying to think like the NHL makes my brain hurt. Prust's twice as late. But (from replays I've seen) Moore left his feet. And I'd argue Moore's principal point of contact was the head.

So which factor weighs most heavily?

[Logan]

Yeah, read the same in a tweet from Elliotte Friedman

Trying to think like the NHL makes my brain hurt. Prust's twice as late. But (from replays I've seen) Moore left his feet. And I'd argue Moore's principal point of contact was the head.

So which factor weighs most heavily?

Guess it depends on if Weise ends up needing surgery!

[britrock88]

Difference in timing would make me think 1 game for Moore. NHL could decide to handle it consequentially, though, and not suspend based on the lack of injury.

[Logan]

I think there's zero chance that he gets less than 2. The timing will net out with the clearer contact to the head.

[Logan]

BTW, the only reason I mentioned the difference in timing was because it annoyed me that every replay I saw yesterday comparing the two hits, the Prust hit was in regular speed and the Moore hit was in slow motion. Of course they'll look like similar timing in that regard.

[FrogMan]

that's nice...
Derek Dorsett Headbutt on Mike Weaver (5/27/14) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_Rtd-lQTg)

FM

[FrogMan]

been looking at both hits back and forth, in slowmo and real speed and forget about the .43 seconds difference, these two hits are about the same. The puck was gone for long enough so that either guy had to at least try to hit differently and try to avoid a hit to the head of the other player.

but like SR said, trying to think like the NHL makes my head want to explode so I'll stop now...

FM

[FrogMan]

Moore suspended for two games while Weise is now out with a concussion...

FM

[sterlingice]

Hawks-Kings has been pretty wild tonight

SI

[hoopsguy]

Hawks-Kings has been pretty wild tonight

SI

First OT was terrific hockey, pretty surprised that there is a second OT left to be played tonight.

[MrBug708]

Tough loss, Kings were playing well in OT too

[Coffee Warlord]

Hawks-Kings has been pretty wild tonight

SI

Gonna be a lot of tired people in my office this morning.

[Logan]

Moore suspended for two games while Weise is now out with a concussion...

FM

Therrien says it's not a concussion.

[timmae]

Gonna be a lot of tired people in my office this morning.

Very true my friend!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Therrien says it's not a concussion.

I like that he called it a "body injury"...as opposed to? Emotional?

[FrogMan]

I like that he called it a "body injury"...as opposed to? Emotional?

It's a followup to the play on words he did in his game 5 postgame presser. After the win, he was asked if he could tell more about Alexei Emelin's injury, when it happened, what it was, and finally, if it was a lower body injury or a upper body injury. Not wanting to be specific, his reply was that it was a... body injury. Everyone in the room got a good laugh about it and I'm thinking he just went for the same answer today.

Of course, he wants to be as vague as he can be about it.

FM

[Logan]

These nerves...

[sterlingice]

Montreal has gotten pretty much nothing the last 10 minutes and time is running out

SI

[FrogMan]

Montreal has gotten pretty much nothing the last 10 minutes and time is running out

SI

that was a pretty pathetic showing in the third period for Montreal. To start with a power play and come out so flat was pretty sad.

They had a good run that almost nobody had expected.

Tokarski isn't the one to be blamed for this but I believe it could have been a very different series had Price been in goals for Montreal...

FM

[Logan]

About 12 hours later and I can finally breathe. That was excruciating but amazing.

that was a pretty pathetic showing in the third period for Montreal. To start with a power play and come out so flat was pretty sad.

I think the issue is more that they were completely gassed. You could see it developing in the 2nd, especially defensively. The whole team was chasing the Rangers in the 1st and that wears you down. The Rangers were doing a great job protecting their own blue line and not giving an easy entry, and the Habs didn't have the speed at that point to fight that off.

Tokarski played a hell of a series. Happy to be moving on.

[JonInMiddleGA]

My brain was thinking roughly "NY vs LA maybe ... that oughta be good for ratings". And then I discovered how much better NY vs CHI would probably be for the ratings (since the Kings last title run fairly fizzled in ratings).

And then I wondered whether who makes it would really matter or not, since so far the playoffs are getting beaten routinely by cartoon & sitcom reruns on Adult Swim and TBS.

NHL Playoffs 2014: Road To Stanley Cup Drawing Strong Interest From Big Cities? (http://www.ibtimes.com/nhl-playoffs-2014-road-stanley-cup-drawing-strong-interest-big-cities-1591983)

[Honolulu_Blue]

And then I wondered whether who makes it would really matter or not, since so far the playoffs are getting beaten routinely by cartoon & sitcom reruns on Adult Swim and TBS.

NHL Playoffs 2014: Road To Stanley Cup Drawing Strong Interest From Big Cities? (http://www.ibtimes.com/nhl-playoffs-2014-road-stanley-cup-drawing-strong-interest-big-cities-1591983)

Not at all surprising. Hockey is, and will likely always be, very much a niche sport.

[FrogMan]

About 12 hours later and I can finally breathe. That was excruciating but amazing.



I think the issue is more that they were completely gassed. You could see it developing in the 2nd, especially defensively. The whole team was chasing the Rangers in the 1st and that wears you down. The Rangers were doing a great job protecting their own blue line and not giving an easy entry, and the Habs didn't have the speed at that point to fight that off.

Tokarski played a hell of a series. Happy to be moving on.

you're probably right, I was just so surprised they came out so flat to start out the period, with a power play of all things but I gotta give it to them, defensively the Rangers gave absolutely nothing to the Habs. Lundkvist wasn't tested much during the whole game and when he needed a miracle save, he did it against Vanek. Kudos to your team, good luck in the finals. Whoever goes through you'll be facing a heck of a team, although if Chicago hangs on to force a game 7, either could be quite tired by the time the finals starts...

FM

[Logan]

Thanks. Was a fun series. Wish it happened with Price playing.

I think I'd rather face Chicago just on the fact that Quick > Crawford and the Rangers will deservedly be the underdog against either team, so I'd prefer having the goalie edge. Either team will be a bitch to go up against so having the series go seven would be great.

[Suburban Rhythm]

This is pretty wild. In recent history, the road to the SCF runs through...Philly.

2008 - Penguins beat Flyers in ECF to advance to SCF
2009 - Penguins beat Flyers round 1, advance to SCF (win Cup)
2010 - Flyers themselves advance to SCF
2011 - Bruins beat Flyers round 2, advance to SCF(win Cup)
2012 - Devils beat Flyer round 2, advance to SCF
2013 - Flyers do not qualify for playoffs
2014 - Rangers beat Flyers round 1, advance to SCF

[MrBug708]

Well that changed quickly

[Coffee Warlord]

What a game.

[Neuqua]

I wish the Kings and Blackhawks played every game.

[MrBug708]

Bah...can't be confident about game 7 in Chicago

[Neuqua]

I admit I only started following the Blackhawks when old man Wirtz died but I cannot believe more people don't watch this sport.

[The Jackal]

This is pretty wild. In recent history, the road to the SCF runs through...Philly.

2008 - Penguins beat Flyers in ECF to advance to SCF
2009 - Penguins beat Flyers round 1, advance to SCF (win Cup)
2010 - Flyers themselves advance to SCF
2011 - Bruins beat Flyers round 2, advance to SCF(win Cup)
2012 - Devils beat Flyer round 2, advance to SCF
2013 - Flyers do not qualify for playoffs
2014 - Rangers beat Flyers round 1, advance to SCF

:banghead:

[sterlingice]

I wish the Kings and Blackhawks played every game.

Definitely a fun game

SI

[sterlingice]

This game is nuts. It's fun!

SI

[sterlingice]

How is no one watching/commenting on this?

SI

[Danny]

Oh I'm watching

[Coffee Warlord]

I wish the Kings and Blackhawks played every game.

Got blood pressure meds?

[Coffee Warlord]

Gotta do better on that 5 on 3.

[timmae]

Wicked series... waiting for Hoss to plug one in. He has had some puck possession this game. Sharpie finally gets a few to go in... great stuff!

[Coffee Warlord]

Of COURSE this is going to OT.

[sterlingice]

Who needs to be awake for work tomorrow?

SI

[Coffee Warlord]

Better question. Why did my coworker have to bring TWO friends instead of just one. I coulda been on the glass right now.

[timmae]

Like your blood pressure isn't high enough the way it is!

[hoopsguy]

Was at bar with friend for this one, but have some work stuff to do before tomorrow morning so retreated home. I'm going to be worthless for any kind of work writeup after this, win or lose.

[sterlingice]

Man, so many bouncing pucks in this game

SI

[sterlingice]

Damn

SI

[Danny]

Wow best series ever. Justin Williams game 7' legacy grows

[hoopsguy]

I'll root for Kings in finals. Bummer to lose series on that goal.

[MrBug708]

Wooooo

[Wolfpack]

Wow best series ever. Justin Williams game 7' legacy grows

*remembers game seven in 2006 against Edmonton, nods wistfully*

[Danny]

I'll root for Kings in finals. Bummer to lose series on that goal.

Yeah I probably wasn't as excited as I would have been on a different style goal. Lot of goals like that this game

[Matthean]

Considering the markets, it will be interesting to see the numbers for viewers for the Finals.

[Logan]

Considering the markets, it will be interesting to see the numbers for viewers for the Finals.

It's going to be (relatively) massive but I had read earlier in the week speculation that the numbers would have been bigger for NYR-CHI.

[Suburban Rhythm]

It's going to be (relatively) massive but I had read earlier in the week speculation that the numbers would have been bigger for NYR-CHI.


Yeah. Totally guessing, but imagine while LA has a larger population, a much smaller % is actually interested, even for a championship level team.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Not to dismiss the Rangers, but can't help but feel the finals are going to be anticlimactic compared to the WCF.

[miked]

Well, we had Devils/Kings a few years ago, how was that for ratings?

Oh, and fuck the Rangers :)

[Fidatelo]

Would have been a bit tougher call if Toews and crew had pulled off the comeback, but with LA in the finals I've definitely gotta cheer for my former flame, the Rangers. I may have had to turn my back on them when the Jets re-entered my life, but I'll always remember my time with them fondly.

[Warhammer]

Actually, the Kings have a pretty loyal following in LA. They're not like the Clippers.

[henry296]

The ratings last night were 4.8 in LA and 22.7 in Chicago. Since LA is about 1/3 larger than Chicago, there were still many more people watching the game in Chicago then LA. With similar ratings for the Stanley Cups finals Chicago would move the national number significantly more.

[chadritt]

Honestly I think time zones hold us back in LA far too much for ratings. I remember last time they were in the finals I was stuck in the office for every single game, usually until the third period started or longer. The games are scheduled to all start at 5pm which means it will happen again.

[Logan]

This is great. Good sports up in Montreal.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/6/1/5769622/youppi-lost-the-saddest-bet-of-all-time-over-habs-rangers

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2lGQekfGPA6bfJv4vZoUyQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTQyMDtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02MzA-/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2014-06-01/69f9cad0-e9b4-11e3-ae0b-4fcf5e0c08b1_BpDgOe5IIAEmwjP.jpg

[FrogMan]

I was discussing this with my wife. The media people of the Habs were very involved during this playoffs run, really. They seeked the bet and worked it out with Fallon and they are following up on it. Good sports indeed.

FM

[britrock88]

:( :)

[BillyNYC]

In 1994, I was a senior in HS when Rangers won the Cup. Thought "wow, would've been amazing to actually BE there" as the Cup was lifted...but not like there was Stubhub (and not like I had the $ anyway). Attended the parade.

Twenty years later, am back in NY and again thinking "wow, it would be amazing to BE there". I go to a few games a year, but not a season ticket holder.

Stubhub has other ideas (price shown is LOWEST price for a ticket):
Game 3: $1045
Game 4: $1196
Game 6: $1700 (if game doesn't happen, all $ gets refunded)

Oddly, would possibly likely be cheaper to fly to LA and attend a game:
Game 1: $394
Game 2: $538
Game 5: $700
Game 7: $981

As far as life experiences, the potential to see my team win the Cup on home ice is way up there. As such, I think am only considering Game 6, but $1700 is...well...$1700.

I'm considering waiting, but if Rangers come home up 3-2, the $1700 would go up. It's nice to be in a city that cares about hockey (and has a large enough bandwagon and corporate types to drive up prices)...but sheesh.

[BlackJack]

Well, we had Devils/Kings a few years ago, how was that for ratings?

Oh, and fuck the Rangers :)

What metropolitan area do the devils represent? Surely you don't mean NY

[Logan]

In 1994, I was a senior in HS when Rangers won the Cup. Thought "wow, would've been amazing to actually BE there" as the Cup was lifted...but not like there was Stubhub (and not like I had the $ anyway). Attended the parade.

Twenty years later, am back in NY and again thinking "wow, it would be amazing to BE there". I go to a few games a year, but not a season ticket holder.

Stubhub has other ideas (price shown is LOWEST price for a ticket):
Game 3: $1045
Game 4: $1196
Game 6: $1700 (if game doesn't happen, all $ gets refunded)

Oddly, would possibly likely be cheaper to fly to LA and attend a game:
Game 1: $394
Game 2: $538
Game 5: $700
Game 7: $981

As far as life experiences, the potential to see my team win the Cup on home ice is way up there. As such, I think am only considering Game 6, but $1700 is...well...$1700.

I'm considering waiting, but if Rangers come home up 3-2, the $1700 would go up. It's nice to be in a city that cares about hockey (and has a large enough bandwagon and corporate types to drive up prices)...but sheesh.

I was listening to Boomer and Carton this morning. Carton was telling Boomer what comparable seats to his 4 in the lower level are going for on SH...total came to about $55,000. Unreal.

There's a lot of money in this city and a lot of demand. I know some people who have extras and they've been cleaning up, and I say "good for them" because I know they've eaten a lot of tickets over the dry years.

[Dr. Sak]

Wow after seeing those prices I didn't get off too bad in 2010. I paid $550 a piece for seats in the last row of the Wells Fargo Center for Game 4 of the 2010 SCF.

I bought them through the Flyers ticket exchange.

[Suburban Rhythm]

It's certainly a cyclical thing, and obviously a location/population thing.

2008 finals vs DET, I had games 3 & 6 of the finals. Sold game 3. I paid $85 a piece for 2 seats, sold for $400 each. Went to game 6.

2009 finals, vs DET, also games 3 & 6. Went to both games. But had game 6 listed for a few days. In my section were going for $700 each. I listed at $1000, figures if someone bites, I take the cash.

Fast forward to this year. Game 2 vs the Rangers, I had 4 seats, I paid $90 each, sold on ticket exchange for, after fees, $92.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Pierre McGuire candidate for Pittsburgh Penguins GM job - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11025503/pierre-mcguire-candidate-pittsburgh-penguins-gm-job)

[Dr. Sak]

Pierre McGuire candidate for Pittsburgh Penguins GM job - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11025503/pierre-mcguire-candidate-pittsburgh-penguins-gm-job)

http://a1.img.mobypicture.com/35d4a0311d948a7adc304634a37e402a_view.jpg

[Suburban Rhythm]

The two guys reporting that - Rob Rossi and Mark Madden - might be the two least believable people in the Pittsburgh media.

That said...while I don't think he'd the best option, he's certainly not the worst option. My concern with Pierre would be the day-to-day operations. But the knowledge of junior/college players, and connections to those players through coaches etc, are clearly his strength.

Honestly not sure it will matter who it is. From the Shero firing press conference and aftermath, the new GM will report through David Morehouse, President and CEO. Former GMs reported directly to ownership.

Morehouse, allegedly, nixed a deal in place this time last year that was moving out Kris Letang because "he's too marketable to move". I get it's a business. But scares the hell out of me to think the guy who thinks of the business side is in charge of the guy who will be making hockey decisions.

Pierre might not even want the job under those constraints. Who would?

[Suburban Rhythm]

DOLA

This should really be in the Offseason thread. Don't want the hockey thread po-po coming in here blowing a gasket!

[JonInMiddleGA]

DOLA

This should really be in the Offseason thread. Don't want the hockey thread po-po coming in here blowing a gasket!

F da police

:D

[Suburban Rhythm]

NHL reduces Carcillo suspension from 10 games to 6.

.

[Logan]

Stanley Cup Final produces the lamest governors' bet ever | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/stanley-cup-final-produces-the-lamest-governors--bet-ever-151700207.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory)

My favorite part is where Cuomo puts up buffalo wing sauce...

[Chief Rum]

Stanley Cup Final produces the lamest governors' bet ever | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/stanley-cup-final-produces-the-lamest-governors--bet-ever-151700207.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory)

My favorite part is where Cuomo puts up buffalo wing sauce...

I didn't vote for him.

[MrBug708]

If clutch were a rating Williams would be a billion. Girardi wouldn't

[Logan]

If clutch were a rating Williams would be a billion. Girardi wouldn't

Epic failure to flub it once and then try to clear it into two guys from one knee.

Tough one to lose after how the game began but the Kings clearly dominated from about the midway point on. Then again, there was a chance to take the lead on a SH breakaway with under a minute left.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Rangers lost 1994 game 1 3-2OT as well, if you are a silver lining guy Logan

http://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/199405310NYR.html

[Suburban Rhythm]

DOLA

As a Penguins fan, I am used to the headsnap used to draw the highstick call...but even Crosby laughs at this

https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/855709034.gif?1401933493

ETA - I know he did get clipped, I believe in the visor, though this angle doesn't show it

[Fidatelo]

Lol I love the 720 spin.

[Logan]

Hurts to see this picture right as Girardi was flubbing the puck initially.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--wLxWmZko--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zzpbp7gv1owephbzuh6m.png

[Fidatelo]

Hurts to see this picture right as Girardi was flubbing the puck initially.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--wLxWmZko--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zzpbp7gv1owephbzuh6m.png

What's wrong with that? Unless one of the two guys by the boards is playing the puck that's a perfectly legal change.

[Logan]

What's wrong with that? Unless one of the two guys by the boards is playing the puck that's a perfectly legal change.

I meant "hurts" because it would have been an excellent chance for a Rangers score if Girardi doesn't have the puck bounce over his stick. McDonagh is already moving up ice quickly and has Zucc joining him, and Brassard is already way up ice in space.

It's a 3 on 1 95% of the time.

[Travis]

I meant "hurts" because it would have been an excellent chance for a Rangers score if Girardi doesn't have the puck bounce over his stick. McDonagh is already moving up ice quickly and has Zucc joining him, and Brassard is already way up ice in space.

It's a 3 on 1 95% of the time.

Based on the line change, at best you're looking at a 3 on 2 with the highest Kings forward having a chance to get back and make a play if he hits a hard cut and sprints back.

Still could lead to a good chance for the Rangers if their passing is on point on the rush and they don't slow it down too much (to allow the Kings forward to get into the play), but if played properly by the D, should still be a situation where they can allow the outside shot then collapse on any rebound or have a shot at trying to break up any pass made trying for a better shooting chance.

[Fidatelo]

Based on the line change, at best you're looking at a 3 on 2 with the highest Kings forward having a chance to get back and make a play if he hits a hard cut and sprints back.

Still could lead to a good chance for the Rangers if their passing is on point on the rush and they don't slow it down too much (to allow the Kings forward to get into the play), but if played properly by the D, should still be a situation where they can allow the outside shot then collapse on any rebound or have a shot at trying to break up any pass made trying for a better shooting chance.

Agreed, there is no 3-on-1 here, and even a 3-on-2 will have to be executed quickly as the trailing Kings forward is already turning back.

[Logan]

Fine. It's a potential 3 on 2. It hurts to see a potential 3 on 2 turn into a GWG the other way 4 seconds later. Happy? :)

[Fidatelo]

Fine. It's a potential 3 on 2. It hurts to see a potential 3 on 2 turn into a GWG the other way 4 seconds later. Happy? :)

Yes, thanks! :D

Actually no, because I wanted the Rangers to win too. :(

[The Jackal]

Justin Williams from Mike Richards.. sigh

[The Jackal]

I got a good chuckle when one of the crew said "the Kings are finding out what the rest of the Eastern Conference found out about Lundqvist" - because he really came out of nowhere, guys. Those Quick saves on St. Louis and Hagelin were massive. Sure Henrik made a lot of good positional saves in the second half of the game, and a couple of dandies on that Mitchell point shot and the Carter wraparound that could've found its way in - but Quick making those tough saves with little action was very impressive.

[sterlingice]

Is this thing on?

(also what a BS dive by Nash there)

SI

[Neuqua]

That 3rd goal was gifted to LA.

[sterlingice]

That 3rd goal was gifted to LA.

I missed a lot of this game as the Royals were actually on national tv due to the Derek Jeter fadeaway tour

SI

[sterlingice]

Frankly, I have no love or as little malice as I could have towards an LA or NY team. I'd just like to see 7 OT games :)

SI

[Galaxy]

Frankly, I have no love or as little malice as I could have towards an LA or NY team. I'd just like to see 7 OT games :)

SI

So would the NHL.

[Neuqua]

I'm the same way. I'm a Blackhawks fan. Doesn't matter to me who wins, I'm just looking to be entertained and NOT have a heart attack after every shot in an over time.

[The Jackal]

Is this thing on?

(also what a BS dive by Nash there)

SI

Such a dive, can't believe they called that. The only thing I can think of is that the ref saw Williams turn his head and then when Nash skated into him thought it was Williams moving into his lane.. which it definitely was not.

[The Jackal]

I hope the Rags get swept.. sorry Logan and whomever else. ;)

[The Jackal]

Mike Richards needs to shoot the puck more

[Warhammer]

Willie Mitchell needs to shoot more.

[The Jackal]

hell of a deflection

[Warhammer]

If the Kings come out and score 2 quick ones in game 3, this series is over.

[Chief Rum]

That 3rd goal was gifted to LA.

Series changer perhaps. If they don't get that gift, they lose 4-3 in regulation and we're looking at an even series going back to NY.

[Danny]

Series changer perhaps. If they don't get that gift, they lose 4-3 in regulation and we're looking at an even series going back to NY.

Quite possibly, but you cant assume that. If kings down inside 10 minutes they play differently than they did since if was tied

[Logan]

Quite possibly, but you cant assume that. If kings down inside 10 minutes they play differently than they did since if was tied

Agreed, and with the way the Kings have come back already I doubt it would have stood up. My biggest issue with that call is that, if you believe Lundqvist, the ref told him that he didn't make a call because the puck was already past him when contact was made. That was very clearly untrue even without the benefit of replay.

[britrock88]

Willie Mitchell needs to shoot more.

I swear he looks like a cyborg.

[Danny]

Quick finally found his code for God mode

[DaddyTorgo]

This one's all over.

[EagleFan]

Nothing about this game tonight. This has been a great game to watch with no emotional investment.

[Young Drachma]

Yeah..same.

[cuervo72]

Yep.

(Were this the Flyers, I wouldn't be able to handle it. I'm rooting for the Kings but am not invested, so I can actually enjoy the game.)

[Warhammer]

Great game. If the Rangers somehow come back in the series, Lundqvist gets the Smythe easily.

[EagleFan]

Yep.

(Were this the Flyers, I wouldn't be able to handle it. I'm rooting for the Kings but am not invested, so I can actually enjoy the game.)

+1

[kingfc22]

That was a very exciting first OT.

[EagleFan]

If the Kings win tonight iI wonder what the difference in time led versus time trailing is. Might be the worst for any team winning in five games ever.

[Suburban Rhythm]

People who say they don't like hockey should be sat down and shown that first OT.

[EagleFan]

With all the great chances in OT you just know the winner is going to be a weird pinball play on someone just dumping it at the net.

[Suburban Rhythm]

I'll go out on a limb here...the GWG won't be from Rick Nash.

[Young Drachma]

Year in and year out, I can watch the NHL finals no matter who is playing even if it's my team's arch rival. NBA games these days have been totally unwatchable and I'm not some NBA hater, but...it's a shame hockey isn't more visible, the drama of a playoff hockey game in sudden death is truly exciting.

That said, still hoping LA pulls it out if only because I don't want to deal with the Rangers hoisting the cup for another 25 years or so.

[EagleFan]

Congrats Kings fans.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Slightly surprised by Williams as Conn Smythe selection.

Quick wasn't close to as dominant as in 2012, but Doughty drives that team.

[FrogMan]

that was a great series and the final result of it (won in 5) does not indicate how close the Rangers kept this. Well played by both teams.

That last goal and seeing Lundkvist face down on the ice just showed how heartless the job of a goalie is...

FM

[MizzouRah]

Congratulations to the Kings, what a run!

[Warhammer]

Slightly surprised by Williams as Conn Smythe selection.

Quick wasn't close to as dominant as in 2012, but Doughty drives that team.

I was thrilled to see Williams get it, but was surprised how it didn't go to Gaborik. Also, what more does a defender need to do to Winn it, Martinez has two OT series clinching goals and doesn't get it.

[britrock88]

That last goal and seeing Lundkvist face down on the ice just showed how heartless the job of a goalie is...

FM

That was tough. I hope that the people that award the Smythe thought of Lundqvist for at least a quick second. 2.14 GAA and a .927 SV% in 25 starts.

[Logan]

Man, that was rough. A hell of a season.

Congrats to the Kings and their fans on here!