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Kodos
05-07-2003, 02:32 PM
Can somebody point me to a good place to find average statistics for NFL games, such as number of plays run, pass yardage, run yardage, sacks, ints, fumbles, etc., on a per-game basis. I am trying to perfect my Madden sliders for the most realistic results possible, while also making sure the cpu and I are on as level a playing field as possible.

And, yes, Virginia, I am a geek.

primelord
05-07-2003, 02:33 PM
Jim could probably give you that information. :)

sabotai
05-07-2003, 02:35 PM
I don't have that info (yet), but if you don't mind doing a little work, just start up a spreadsheet, go to NFL.com and get the box scores from all the games and input them in. Then get the average.

Kodos
05-07-2003, 02:36 PM
Alas, Jim and I are not on speaking terms because of his steadfast refusal to implement the Super-Smart Monkeys option in the FOF series. :(

Kodos
05-07-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by sabotai
I don't have that info (yet), but if you don't mind doing a little work, just start up a spreadsheet, go to NFL.com and get the box scores from all the games and input them in. Then get the average.

I stopped reading after the "if you don't mind doing a little work" part.

Fritz
05-07-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Alas, Jim and I are not on speaking terms because of his steadfast refusal to implement the Super-Smart Monkeys option in the FOF series. :(

did you say please?

primelord
05-07-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Alas, Jim and I are not on speaking terms because of his steadfast refusal to implement the Super-Smart Monkeys option in the FOF series. :(

I understand. :)

Kodos
05-07-2003, 02:38 PM
My fiance can tell you that I never please.

sabotai
05-07-2003, 02:39 PM
"I stopped reading after the "if you don't mind doing a little work" part."

hehe, you lazy bum.

Fritz
05-07-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
My fantasy can tell you that I never please.

Kodos
05-07-2003, 02:48 PM
My fantasy can tell you that I never please.

So, fantasty boy, is it true then?

Fritz
05-07-2003, 03:18 PM
behind you! Bigfoot!

vtbub
05-07-2003, 03:27 PM
Profootball-reference.com?

Kodos
05-07-2003, 03:28 PM
That sounds promising!

Kodos
05-07-2003, 04:04 PM
That site didn't seem to have what I was after in terms of team averages per game.

primelord
05-07-2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
That site didn't seem to have what I was after in terms of team averages per game.

I don't think you're going to find pre compiled stats like you are looking for Kodos. When Jim gathered that stuff for research for FOF he had to compile it all from box scores himself. I suspect if you really want that information you will have to do the same.

Now if you don't want to be real exact you can just take all the boxscores for on team from last year and just total them up in a spreadsheet real quick. That will be close, wouldn't be much work, and should be good for what you are looking for.

I may even write a little perl script to do those calculations for you if I get a moment tonight.

primelord
05-07-2003, 04:48 PM
Dola,

BTW that site may not have what you were looking for, but it's easy to look up his stats and see what schmuck Dan Marino was. ;)

primelord
05-07-2003, 05:18 PM
Allright my green skinned friend. When you speak of me speak well.

Rushing Averages Per Game for the entire NFL.
2002: Carries - 27.6, Yards - 116.6, TD's - 0.9
2001: Carries - 26.6, Yards - 108.5, TD's - 0.7
2000: Carries - 26.6, Yards - 108.7, TD's - 0.8
1999: Carries - 26.5, Yards - 103.9, TD's - 0.7
1998: Carries - 26.5, Yards - 105.9, TD's - 0.7
1997: Carries - 26.5, Yards - 106.1, TD's - 0.7
1985: Carries - 26.3, Yards - 108.0, TD's - 0.8
1975: Carries - 25.7, Yards - 103.3, TD's - 0.8

I can get more years for you if you like, but considering the numbers aren't that far off from 75 and 85 compared to the 00's there isn't much reason to. I will post QB avg's in a bit.

primelord
05-07-2003, 05:30 PM
Passing Averages Per Game for the entire NFL.
2002: Cmp - 20.8, Att - 34.9, Yards - 234.5, TD's - 1.4, Ints - 1.1
2001: Cmp - 18.9, Att - 32.1, Yards - 217.9, TD's - 1.3, Ints - 1.1
2000: Cmp - 18.5, Att - 31.8, Yards - 214.5, TD's - 1.2, Ints - 1.0
1999: Cmp - 18.9, Att - 33.2, Yards - 224.4, TD's - 1.3, Ints - 1.1
1998: Cmp - 18.0, Att - 31.9, Yards - 218.4, TD's - 1.4, Ints - 1.1

I'll post some more stuff later tonight when I get home.

Kodos
05-07-2003, 06:59 PM
You rock the house, primelord. Will you be my second wife (first if you hurry)?

I will just overlook the Marino comment.

Kodos
05-13-2003, 07:34 PM
Anything else, primelord? :D

Godzilla Blitz
05-13-2003, 08:46 PM
Kodos,

You might check out the book called The Hidden Game. Gives an alternative view of stats analysis in pro football, but I bet the kind of numbers you are looking for are in there. Only problem is that the stats are a bit out of date (I think the book is a few years old now), but it's a good read anyway.

Also, a good book store might have some kind of NFL stats book from last year, with everything totaled up nice and neat.

Godzilla Blitz
05-13-2003, 08:50 PM
Dola...

Don't know the source, but here's something I grabbed about plays per game when I was tweaking Madden minutes/quarter a couple of years ago. I think the info is reliable, or I wouldn't have saved it:

"When we speak of longer and shorter gams we're referring to the number of plays. A weekend was selected at random, October 17 and 18, 1998. The average college game had over 141 non-special teams play from scrimmage while the pros averaged only 115 plays per game, which is close to what we can expect until we see significant rule changes. College games ranged from 118 plays in the TCU-SMU game to 164 plays in the overtime thriller between UCLA and Oregon. In the NFL, we can expect a narrower range. We logged from 106 plays in New Orleans' game in Atlanta to 126 plays in a wild affair between San Francisco and Indianapolis."

Hope that helps.

Kodos
05-13-2003, 11:29 PM
It does. Thanks Blitz!

primelord
05-14-2003, 03:47 PM
Ok Kodos I think ths should be pretty much everything you are looking for. My first numbers were based off of a script I worte that read that raw data from pro-football-reference.com. I think that data is a little flawed though. Here are more accurate numbers.

2002 Per Game Averages

Passing:
Att: 33.75 Cmp: 20.13 Yards: 226.94 TD: 1.38 Int: 1.06

Rushing:
Att: 27.56 Yards: 116.13 Avg: 4.2 TD: 0.88 Fumb: 0.5

Defense:
Tack: 53.63 Asst: 12.06 Sack: 2.28 FFumb: 0.88 Pass Def: 5.19

That should be everything you need. You can obviously get the total plays from adding up the rushing and passing atempts. The defensive Ints will obviously match the passing ints.

Kodos
05-14-2003, 04:38 PM
Thanks, primelord.