Star Wars: Episode VII

[Grover]

Let's get the thread officially started now that the cast for the film has been released!

Actors John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow will join the original stars of the saga, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, and Kenny Baker in the new film.

Director J.J. Abrams says, "We are so excited to finally share the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII. It is both thrilling and surreal to watch the beloved original cast and these brilliant new performers come together to bring this world to life, once again. We start shooting in a couple of weeks, and everyone is doing their best to make the fans proud."

Star Wars: Episode VII is being directed by J.J. Abrams from a screenplay by Lawrence Kasdan and Abrams. Kathleen Kennedy, J.J. Abrams, and Bryan Burk are producing, and John Williams returns as the composer

[sterlingice]

I thought Max von Sydow was dead. Guess not

SI

[chadritt]

Very excited about John Boyega, Andy Serkis, Adam Driver (even though I hate his show), Max Von Sydow ,and the old crew. I never saw Llewyn Davis or I might care even more...

[NobodyHere]

As long as there's no Ahmed Best I'm happy

[Sun Tzu]

I'm really trying to temper my excitement about this film, but damn...on paper it's looking pretty promising.

[Chief Rum]

I'm really trying to temper my excitement about this film, but damn...on paper it's looking pretty promising.

Why?

[Grover]

Boyega and Isaac are said to be the main heroes, with Boyega playing a Jedi. Adam Driver is playing the main villain.

[Grover]

Why?

Because JJ Abrams has the ability to be extremely disappointing?

[Chief Rum]

Because JJ Abrams has the ability to be extremely disappointing?

Maybe in your opinion. I think he's just fine.

It's freaking Star Wars. Personally, I think we should all fanboy out. Why not get excited?

(Keeping in mind, you're not the one I originally responded to of course, but point made...)

[Butter]

It's going to be pretty freaking weird to see Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford all together again in these roles. Can't help but be excited.

[Grover]

Maybe in your opinion. I think he's just fine.

It's freaking Star Wars. Personally, I think we should all fanboy out. Why not get excited?

(Keeping in mind, you're not the one I originally responded to of course, but point made...)

Haha, indeed!

I know people are all over the place with him. I really liked his Star Trek films and I am not a Star Trek fan at all. However, Lost (the ending of course) and Super 8 were ridiculously disappointing for me.

[Kodos]

I'm getting pretty excited for Godzilla. And Jurassic World. And Star Wars 7 with no George Lucas.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Haha, indeed!

I know people are all over the place with him. I really liked his Star Trek films and I am not a Star Trek fan at all. However, Lost (the ending of course) and Super 8 were ridiculously disappointing for me.

While the ending of "Lost" wasn't all that great, I am not sure how much JJ Abrams was involved at that point. "Lost" was a pretty amazing show. I think too many people let what happened at the end cloud their memory of what was a highly entertaining, pretty amazing run for many years. Just think of how many shows tried to be the next "Lost" and failed miserably. While the final destination might not have been great or what was expected, overall the journey was more than worth it. I don't regret the time I spent watching that show.

Never saw "Super 8".

I liked both of the new Star Treks well enough.

After the last three Star Wars movies, there is really nowhere to go but up. It would be a Herculean feat to make movies worse than those. It'd be amazing. Movie-wise, the "Star Wars" franchise was so decimated by those horrible films, that I'm not nervous or anxious at all. I'm kind of excited at the possibility of something new. Something to wash away the stank of the prequels.

Also... Lightsaber lens flare!!!!

[Butter]

Didn't he apologize for all the lens flare in the last Star Trek movie?

[Kodos]

I loved Super 8. It was so Spielbergian.

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Abrams was really only involved with the very beginning of Lost.

[Grover]

I loved Super 8. It was so Spielbergian.

I loved it up until the ending. It felt too abrupt to me after all the buildup.

[Blackadar]

Because JJ Abrams has the ability to be extremely disappointing?

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but:

Mission Impossible: 77% (Rotten Tomatoes)
Cloverfield: 77%
Star Trek: 95%
Super 8: 82%
Star Trek 2: 87%

That's a pretty solid track record right there.

[ISiddiqui]

I'm fine with geeking out! I loved Super 8 (own it on Blu-Ray) as well as the two Star Trek movies. I think Abrams will do a fine job with Star Wars (wasn't the complaint from Star Trek fans that he made the first re-boot Star Trek movie into a Star Wars movie?).

[Honolulu_Blue]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but:

Mission Impossible: 77% (Rotten Tomatoes)
Cloverfield: 77%
Star Trek: 95%
Super 8: 82%
Star Trek 2: 87%

That's a pretty solid track record right there.

I forgot he did Cloverfield. I enjoyed that movie.

[larrymcg421]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but:

Mission Impossible: 77% (Rotten Tomatoes)
Cloverfield: 77%
Star Trek: 95%
Super 8: 82%
Star Trek 2: 87%

That's a pretty solid track record right there.

He actually did Mission: Impossible 3, not part 1. It still has 70%.

I hated Cloverfield, but like all of his other stuff, especially Super 8.

[sterlingice]

I really wanted the monster to eat pretty much all of the main characters in Cloverfield.

SI

[BillJasper]

I'm more of a Trek fan, but I'm definitely looking forward to Episode VII.

[larrymcg421]

And Cloverfield was just produced by Abrams. Matt Reeves directed it.

[molson]

I'm pretty fired up. I don't even care if the movie's any good. I'd be psyched to see Hamill, Ford, and Fisher reprise their roles in a Verizon commercial. A movie with them, geez, that's certainly worth a couple of hours of my time next year. I think it helps not to get personally offended by movies or TV or film that don't meet your expectations, which seems to be a growing thing.

[stevew]

I thought Max von Sydow was dead. Guess not

SI

I do wonder if they shoot his scenes first, "just in case"

[EagleFan]

The level of suckage will be strong with this one.

[stevew]

Somehow I missed Into Darkness in theaters and it's not available to rent and I really don't wanna "own" it. Is it available anywhere for cheap, like $4-5 max?

[Sun Tzu]

I tried on two separate occasions to sit through the first Star Trek remake, and holy crap, what an absolute joke of a sci-fi film. If I wanted to watch a bunch of people punching each other, shaky cam, and explosions every 5 minutes, I'd just go watch a Michael Bay film.

[chadritt]

Its still available in my local redboxes. Its also only worth the $1.25 in my opinion.

[stevew]

Hmm, I guess I typed it in wrong cause now I see it. Thanks.

[BillJasper]

I liked both of the Abrams Trek movies. Have seen Into Darkness twice over the last four days on EPIX. :lol:

[PilotMan]

I liked both of the Abrams Trek movies.

ditto

I'm excited, but cautious. The PM was such a letdown that it killed a lot of that excitement forever.

[sterlingice]

ditto

I'm excited, but cautious. The PM was such a letdown that it killed a lot of that excitement forever.

No matter what TPM was, it was never going to live up to the hype. However, expectations have to be so stamped down now that I think the general consensus will be "yeah, that was pretty good- worse than 4-6 but better than 1-3, even 3"

SI

[Desnudo]

Very excited about John Boyega, Andy Serkis, Adam Driver (even though I hate his show), Max Von Sydow ,and the old crew. I never saw Llewyn Davis or I might care even more...

Which one is playing Jar Jar?

[stevew]

Watched Star Trek Into Darkness. The plot was barely substantial enough to fill out a movie. I was never a fan of the original series so I don't have the baggage that original fans have. I guess I just wanted to like it more.

[PilotMan]

No matter what TPM was, it was never going to live up to the hype. However, expectations have to be so stamped down now that I think the general consensus will be "yeah, that was pretty good- worse than 4-6 but better than 1-3, even 3"

SI

And honestly, I'd call that a win, and take it to the bank every time.

[Desnudo]

Watched Star Trek Into Darkness. The plot was barely substantial enough to fill out a movie. I was never a fan of the original series so I don't have the baggage that original fans have. I guess I just wanted to like it more.

That's how I feel about Jj Abrams movies. Great concept and visuals, story doesn't reach me emotionally.

[thealmighty]

People, this isn't the episode you're looking for (waves hand right to left).

[Sun Tzu]

That's how I feel about Jj Abrams movies. Great concept and visuals, story doesn't reach me emotionally.

Yup, which is why I was disappointed when I heard he was going to direct this film.

Great visuals.
Cool concept.
Zero emotional engagement.

Sounds like George Lucas 2.0.

[rowech]

That's how I feel about Jj Abrams movies. Great concept and visuals, story doesn't reach me emotionally.

Watch Fringe. I know it's not a movie but he can do it. I also know he didn't do the whole show like a movie wold be done.

[Schmidty]

However, Lost (the ending of course) and Super 8 were ridiculously disappointing for me.

I disliked Lost, but Super 8 was one of the more entertaining fantasy/monster movies that's good for the whole family, that I've seen in a long time.

[Edward64]

I liked both of the Abrams Trek movies. Have seen Into Darkness twice over the last four days on EPIX. :lol:

Won't put them into my top 10 movies but I enjoyed them, the second more than the first.

[molson]

We have a title - The Force Awakens.

'Star Wars: Episode VII' has a title: 'The Force Awakens' | Inside Movies | EW.com (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/11/06/star-wars-episode-vii-breaking)

The cast just had its wrap party.

[Honolulu_Blue]

As a big a Star Wars fan I've since I was a little kid, I have very little excitement for these new movies. I will definitely see them and I'm sure I will get somewhat excited as the time grows closer, but the prequels were just so bad...

Well, I guess there is no where else to go but up!

[BillJasper]

As a big a Star Wars fan I've since I was a little kid, I have very little excitement for these new movies. I will definitely see them and I'm sure I will get somewhat excited as the time grows closer, but the prequels were just so bad...

Well, I guess there is no where else to go but up!

I'm a fan to a degree and am definitely looking forward to The Force Awakens.

[Kodos]

I think it's a stupid title, but am very much looking forward to the movie. It HAS to be significantly better than the prequels. HAS TO BE.

[ISiddiqui]

The Force Awakens could be referencing the Dark Side of the Force awakening to bring balance again... I like the title though.

[Kodos]

Star Wars VII: C3's POed

[Dutch]

I think it's a stupid title, but am very much looking forward to the movie. It HAS to be significantly better than the prequels. HAS TO BE.

It replaced "Star Wars Episode VII: Oh snap, the Force just woke the fuck up" ... not sure if it improves it but it does make it more kid friendly.

[Kodos]

Ooo, I've got it! Princess Leia goes to the dark side. The title would be ...


Star Wars VII: Darth She Goes

[Bobble]

Stolen from Twitter:

Star Wars VII: Too Old for this Sith

[NobodyHere]

New trailer for episode VII this weekend.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/11/24/rumor-star-wars-force-awakens-trailer-in-nine-theatres-friday.aspx

Buying and playing Tie Fighter has really put in back into a Star Wars mood.

[Landshark44]

I liked both of the Abrams Trek movies. Have seen Into Darkness twice over the last four days on EPIX. :lol:

yeah, I liked both of them very much....


hated "gravity" and didn't like "interstellar" that much...


so, what do I know...

[molson]

I don't care if it's any good. Watching old Han Solo and Luke Skywalker running around will be worth my money even if George Lucas writes the dialogue. Any actual quality is just gravy.

[BillJasper]

I don't care if it's any good. Watching old Han Solo and Luke Skywalker running around will be worth my money even if George Lucas writes the dialogue. Any actual quality is just gravy.

+1

Though I think the movie will be good.

[Honolulu_Blue]

TEASER TRAILER

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[Honolulu_Blue]

I am excited.

Good to see JJ Abrams brought along his favorite actor - the lens flare - with him to the series!

[Blackadar]

TEASER TRAILER

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You realize that's a fake trailer, right?

[mckerney]

You realize that's a fake trailer, right?

No, this real one. It's also on the verified Star Wars YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZGYJFUizSax-yElQaFDp5Q).

[Blackadar]

No, this real one. It's also on the verified Star Wars YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZGYJFUizSax-yElQaFDp5Q).

Ok, my bad. Thought that was the fake one going around.

[Draft Dodger]

I am excited.

Good to see JJ Abrams brought along his favorite actor - the lens flare - with him to the series!

the man loves the lens flare

[Desnudo]

X wings and falcon good to go. Now we just need some guardians of the Galaxy humor and plot and I'm excited.

[Honolulu_Blue]

You realize that's a fake trailer, right?

Slanderous.

Take that shit to sportsdig, n00b. ;)

[Atocep]

What the hell is up with that lightsaber? Did they let Lucas design something?

[NobodyHere]

I think they just thought they needed to come up with something new.

I don't mind it though.

[Sun Tzu]

Shaky cam and lens flare?

Welcome to yet another StarTrek/Super8/Cloverfield, but this time with lightsabers!

I'm sure the first 15 minutes will be action packed, with extreme close-ups of really super cool fight sequences!

[chinaski]

This is going to be amazing. Totally got chills when I saw the Falcon.

[NobodyHere]

I'll admit, the first thing that came to mind watching the trailer was

"A black stormtrooper!?"

follows by the quote

"Why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles"

My mind is weird sometimes.

[BishopMVP]

That's not a trailer, its a trailer for a trailer! Which makes it amusing to see so many strong taeks based off that already.

At least Jurassic World had Burt Macklin leading a pack of velociraptors!

[BillJasper]

I'll admit, the first thing that came to mind watching the trailer was

"A black stormtrooper!?"

follows by the quote

"Why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles"

My mind is weird sometimes.

I think he's part of the main cast.

[stevew]

If Han crashes the Falcon into something in order to save someone in an act of self sacrifice I'm done done done.

[Desnudo]

I think he's part of the main cast.

Couldn't they all be black storm troopers?

[PilotMan]

Loved the trailer. X-Wings, TIE's and the Falcon just were just spine chilling.

[BillJasper]

A movie I'm definitely looking forward to and will likely see multiple times at the theater.

[stevew]

I think he's part of the main cast.

Obviously Lando's kid too.

[Matthean]

Seemed okay. Obviously revealed little due to being a teaser.

[ISiddiqui]

Loved the teaser. Love JJ Abrams. So I feel I'm probably going to enjoy it.

[Landshark44]

What's the consensus on the series as a whole, now? I'm in my 40's, watched the movies a bunch growing up, but haven't seen the originals in 20 years.. Have they held up? Are they good movies, or just kind of nostalgic...? I'm sure they were way ahead of their time, but are they still watchable, given how amazing movies are now...?

I remember the last trilogy... I seem to remember hating the first one, don't remember the second, and thought the third was very long, but ok....

[Desnudo]

Originals still hold up mainly because of the acting and a sense of humor which is lacking in the three that follow. Ewoks are still dumb, etc.

[PilotMan]

Obviously Lando's kid too.

This deserved way more love. :D

[Kodos]

Loved the trailer. X-Wings, TIE's and the Falcon just were just spine chilling.

Agreed. I'm in. One year to go.

[NobodyHere]

And now for the George Lucas Special Edition of the Episode VII trailer:

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[cthomer5000]

Watched the trailer, felt absolutely nothing one way or the other. I think the prequels burned any love for Star Wars completely out of me. I guess I'll watch this once it's out on DVD.



Ok, my bad. Thought that was the fake one going around.

I find it's usually best to reply to something before even looking at what is.

[SegRat]

I can't wait.

[sterlingice]

What the hell is up with that lightsaber? Did they let Lucas design something?

That and the stormtrooper seem to be the two big points on the trailer. I guess that's probably because there's not much in the trailer so people want to grab onto something.

SI

[Kodos]

I love the Landspeeder zooming across the X-wing scene.

[Buccaneer]

cthomer, you mean you didn't get your spine chilled like some of the geeks here?

[Kodos]

I guarantee CT will see it at the theater.

[BillJasper]

I guarantee CT will see it at the theater.

For good or ill, there is absolutely no way I'm missing seeing this on the big screen opening night.

[Kodos]

So are the side-sabers to keep one's hand from getting chopped off?

[PilotMan]

I would assume that it functionally works the same as a cross guard on a sword. So yes?

[ISiddiqui]

Guy learned from his history (re: Luke). Must be the first Jedi/Sith ever to have done so. Bravo!

[The Jackal]

Goosebumps verified

[Groundhog]

Yep, the guard on the saber is a pretty darn good idea IMO given their tendency to, you know, slice through things and all.

[Butter]

But wouldn't the saber-guards also take your hand off?

[PilotMan]

The Colbert Report 11029 Highlights - Video Clips - The Colbert Report | Comedy Central (http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/video-playlists/jcg7pc/the-colbert-report-11029-highlights/umsrnb)

This should resolve any controversy regarding the cross guard.

[Sun Tzu]

Guy learned from his history (re: Luke). Must be the first Jedi/Sith ever to have done so. Bravo!

Luke is confirmed to be in this film, so it's entirely possible that it was his idea to re-design the lightsaber based on his own experience.

[stevew]

A crossguard would have saved Dooku

[Travis]

But given part of the cross guard is just a regular handle, if you block an attack with the lightsaber part, all they have to do is ride the guard up a couple of inches, cut through the regular handle part and either cut off your hand(s) and/or cut through the handle of the lightsaber.

[PilotMan]

But given part of the cross guard is just a regular handle, if you block an attack with the lightsaber part, all they have to do is ride the guard up a couple of inches, cut through the regular handle part and either cut off your hand(s) and/or cut through the handle of the lightsaber.

*ahem* I'd like to refer you back to post 97 if you don't mind. ;)

[Travis]

*ahem* I'd like to refer you back to post 97 if you don't mind. ;)

Curses, can't watch it while at work. Will update my post once I get home and can view, lol.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Curses, can't watch it while at work. Will update my post once I get home and can view, lol.

It's definitely worth it.

[Travis]

Not bad, not bad, but as soon as that casing is wrecked, that cross guard becomes potentially problematic for the one holding that saber.

His enthusiasm is awesome, love it.

Pretty sure we need an episode of Deadliest Warrior on this one :D

[stevew]

new trailer!

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[Grover]

*force boner*

[ISiddiqui]

The force didn't even need to give me a boner for that trailer. Just awesome!

[stevew]

who is that badass looking chrome stormtrooper(Boba Fett?)

[Kodos]

I bent my wookie watching this. December can't get here soon enough.

[BillJasper]

People who don't get chills watching that trailer don't have a soul. Just fucking awesome!

[molson]

Chewbacca has aged well. I assume wookies live 500 years or something.

[Chief Rum]

That was awesome.

[whomario]

Chewbacca has aged well. I assume wookies live 500 years or something.

They actually do from what i remember of the old star wars books surrounding the films :)

[ISiddiqui]

Woot, io9 breakdown:

Let's Break Down The Secrets And Spectacle Of The NewÂ*Star WarsÂ*Trailer! (http://io9.com/lets-break-down-the-secrets-and-spectacle-of-the-new-st-1698268479)

Looks like Chrome Stormtrooper is played by Brienne from GoT.

[PilotMan]

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Jimp_6442c7_316609.jpg

[Neuqua]

Amazing.

I've made (and make) films on the side so I never have a problem reading spoilers and having that ruin my movie experience. Until this film. I couldn't get scenes out of my head for weeks.

December really can't get here enough.

[Draft Dodger]

I didn't hate the trailer, but it didn't blow me away either. Maybe I'm just getting too old?

[bulletsponge]

what a bunch of geeks

now for me to watch the trailer

[stevew]

I didn't hate the trailer, but it didn't blow me away either. Maybe I'm just getting too old?

It's not like "OMG KHALEESI IS RUNNING FROM TERMINATOR JOHN CONNOR BAD" so I'm ok.

[bulletsponge]

ok it was nice, but i noticed a huge flaw in logic real fast. any star destroyer that would have crashed in the desert would have been scavenged for parts and scraps, there wouldnt have been much of it left with those grubby sand people and jawwas in the dessert

[saldana]

ok it was nice, but i noticed a huge flaw in logic real fast. any star destroyer that would have crashed in the desert would have been scavenged for parts and scraps, there wouldnt have been much of it left with those grubby sand people and jawwas in the dessert

UNess that wasn't tatooine (i readI it isnt...iit's some other planet we have never heard of before called Jakku)

[Glengoyne]

Abrams was really only involved with the very beginning of Lost.

Which was the really only awesome part of the run.

[NobodyHere]

*force boner*

http://files.sharenator.com/62028.gif

[Groundhog]

I'm not even really a huge Star Wars fan and that trailer got me excited. Feel like watching the original trilogy again.

[Grover]

Star Wars Costumes And Props Reveal New Characters For Episode 7 (http://io9.com/star-wars-costumes-and-props-reveal-new-characters-for-1698341539)

[Julio Riddols]

Either they really really know how to cut a trailer or this looks like its going to be the kind of good that totally wrecks the box office.

[PilotMan]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1480073862845759778.png

Looks great, but I'm surprised there's no Luke to be found anywhere. Get's me pumped for it, now only 8 weeks away.

[Neuqua]

Interesting new Death Star.

[bulletsponge]

they're going the death star route again? didnt they learn their lesson the 1st 2 times? something so expensive yet ineffective

[jeff061]

Still hate that stupid lightsabre. Not enough to spoil it though.

[NobodyHere]

I guess they're going to run a new trailer during halftime of Monday Night Football tomorrow.

[EagleFan]

My money is on all kinds of suckage, Disney will f' it up.

(though they can't possibly do any worse than the prequels so they do that that going for them)

[stevew]

2 thumbs up to new trailer

[law90026]

That trailer was hot.

[PilotMan]

Heads up that tickets went on sale today. Movietickets.com is having a hard time staying up.

[Draft Dodger]

My money is on all kinds of suckage, Disney will f' it up.

(though they can't possibly do any worse than the prequels so they do that that going for them)

the second point is pretty much how I'm approaching it.

[albionmoonlight]

We're going with my 7 year old. So even if it's Episode 1 level suckage, he will enjoy seeing Star Wars on the big screen, which means that I will enjoy it.

[stevew]

Anyone got a voice by voice trailer breakdown?

First one- Who are you?-that's Gwendolyn Christie, right. Given her role, I think this makes sense

Last part about let the force in-Carrie Fisher?

[Neuqua]

All the websites were down so I went to a theater nearby and purchased 2 for the Marathon events.

Starts with Phantom Menace at 2am and ends with The Force Awakens at 7p. Perfect birthday present.

[PilotMan]

I wish I knew what my schedule was going to be so I could commit to something.

[Grover]

Anyone got a voice by voice trailer breakdown?

First one- Who are you?-that's Gwendolyn Christie, right. Given her role, I think this makes sense

Last part about let the force in-Carrie Fisher?

First one is definitely Nyongo'o.

I think Christie could have a silent role as Phasma.

[Kodos]

New trailer looks great. Can't wait for this one. Most anticipated movie of the year.

[EagleFan]

All the websites were down so I went to a theater nearby and purchased 2 for the Marathon events.

Starts with Phantom Menace at 2am and ends with The Force Awakens at 7p. Perfect birthday present.

On the bright side you can sleep in for the first three.

[Draft Dodger]

Abram's Star Trek movies weren't terrible, but they didn't really look or feel like Star Trek movies.

These trailers definitely have that Star Wars feel to them, which is encouraging.

[Draft Dodger]

All the websites were down so I went to a theater nearby and purchased 2 for the Marathon events.

Starts with Phantom Menace at 2am and ends with The Force Awakens at 7p. Perfect birthday present.

can't even imagine dealing with boy Anakin or Jar Jar at that ungodly hour

[sabotai]

About a decade ago, there was a show called "Dinner For Five". All?, Most?, of the episodes are on YouTube now. I love shows like this where actors, directors, etc. talk about behind-the-scenes stories. I found the show about a month ago and have been watching through them.

In this episode, Kevin Smith is the guest host (Jon Favreau is the usual host). Mark Hamill talks about how he tried to convince George Lucas that Luke Skywalker should turn to the dark side in episode 6. JJ Abrams was also sitting at the table.

(The Star Wars part beings at 10:54)

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[PilotMan]

Interesting insights. I don't have my schedule yet, but I do know that I have 2 days off so I bought tickets for the whole family to go to the 3d Imax on the 22nd. Everyone, except probably the Mrs, is excited for it. Some of my friends have been trying to avoid a lot of the hype, but I've been eating it up.

I just remember sitting in the theater for the PM and thinking that while this was awesome, it just kind of sucked, but that kids probably liked it. I really don't want that experience again. I want the experience I had when I watched the new Star Trek movies and because of JJ, I'm even more excited that I may actually get it.

[NobodyHere]

I really hate all the Star Wars tie ins to commercial ads

[Draft Dodger]

I really hate all the Star Wars tie ins to commercial ads

yeah, it's so over the top. Some of the Star Wars stuff I've seen in stores is beyond ludicrous.

[EagleFan]

yeah, it's so over the top. Some of the Star Wars stuff I've seen in stores is beyond ludicrous.

The Disney marketing machine.

[lighthousekeeper]

yeah, it's so over the top. Some of the Star Wars stuff I've seen in stores is beyond ludicrous.

isn't that what star wars has always been about?

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[Wolfpack]

isn't that what star wars has always been about?

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Haha. While visiting family for Thanksgiving, I noticed in the top of my parents' kitchen cabinet these same glasses. I'm pretty sure they were held as collector's items and so haven't been used. I guess somewhat surprisingly they really haven't morphed into high value collector's items after 35 years.

[Suicane75]

Gah, my mom took every kid our apartment complex to see Jedi and we went to Burger King afterwards and we all got one of those glasses. Believe I still had mine till about 10 years ago.

[flere-imsaho]

Look at it this way guys - the ridiculous amount of merchandising is what gives JJ the huge budget to actually make the film.

[frnk55]

I think everyone and their mother over 40 own some of those glasses. Hell, I even have smurf ones. :)

[spleen1015]

Some new footage in this trailer

ThisÂ*The Force AwakensÂ*Trailer Is Probably Your Last Hit Of New Footage Before The Movie (http://io9.com/this-the-force-awakens-trailer-is-probably-your-last-hi-1747287133)

[Kodos]

I'm at the point where I don't want to see anything new before the 18th.

[Dutch]

Agreed, but I still cant stop myself from watching.

[stevew]

This Disney freakout over a leaked action figure is amazeballs.

[cthomer5000]

Going Thursday night. It's been a long wait since 1983 for a fourth Star Wars movie.

[cthomer5000]

Also - I highly recommend fans of the original Trilogy check out the 'Despecialized Edition'

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/star-wars-despecialized-edition-removes-alterations-to-the-original-trilogy

A group of people put in an insane amount of work to create the highest possible digital version of the original trilogy staying loyal to the theatrical releases and cutting out all the revisionist history BS.

The write-up is great, the video explaining the process is pretty mind blowing, and they straight up tell you where you should go look for it on their facebook page.

It's crazy that I probably hadn't seen the original versions since the late 80s while sleeping over at friend's houses and watching their VHS copies.

[Julio Riddols]

I have the despecialized versions. Amazing quality.

[BillJasper]

Going Thursday night. It's been a long wait since 1983 for a fourth Star Wars movie.

We're going Friday morning. Would've went Thursday night, but our 8-year old is a huge fan and wants to see it with us.

[Kodos]

Watched the trailer, felt absolutely nothing one way or the other. I think the prequels burned any love for Star Wars completely out of me. I guess I'll watch this once it's out on DVD.


Going Thursday night. It's been a long wait since 1983 for a fourth Star Wars movie.

Glad to see you've come around. ;)

[CrimsonFox]

isn't that what star wars has always been about?

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yes...both star wars and the muppets...it's about the COLLECT ALL FOUR

it is true. Star Wars...the original pokemon

[stevew]

All kinds of spoilers now.

[PilotMan]

All kinds of spoilers now.

Don't you mean?

All kinds of spoilers now.

Where's your common courtesy man? ;)

[cartman]

Rosebud was Han Solo's Millennium Falcon.

[BillJasper]

Got tickets for me, the wife and my eight-year old for Friday morning at 10:30!

[BishopMVP]

All kinds of spoilers now.Good thing the movie comes out in 36 hours! And I feel like 98% of those are easy enough to avoid - I'll just skip anything with Star Wars in the title until I see it early next week.

Hateful 8 script was leaked 6? years ago, and I've managed to avoid that one. Plus, let's be honest, I'm excited to see this movie, but it's not for the plot or dialogue. :p

[NobodyHere]

Google (https://www.google.com/#q=A+long+time+ago+in+a+galaxy+far%2C+far+away)

[Dr. Sak]

T-Minus 5 hours till I see it.

[NobodyHere]

The critics are loving The Force Awakens so far, so hopefully we don't have another Jar Jar Binks on our hands.

Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens*(2015) - Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/#contentReviews)

[Dutch]

Sorry if this was mentioned before....but what should I do? Regular or IMAX 3d? I'm not bothered by 3d but this just doesn't seem like a good 3d movie...

[PilotMan]

By this point, and with as few movies that I do see in the theater, it's IMAX 3D or nothing. Especially with action, especially when you know there's going to be plenty of action. 3D has gotten away from the schtick that it used to be and it flows much more naturally into the movie. It makes for one helluva impressive experience.

[Thomkal]

Star Wars: The Force Awakens Fandango Sales Break All-Time Record | Comicbook.com (http://comicbook.com/2015/12/17/star-wars-the-force-awakens-fandango-sales-break-all-time-record/)

There's a "spoiler-free" video review on that page too-not a Star Wars fan so haven't looked at it to see how "spoiler-free" it is.

[bionicgrov]

Just got back from seeing it with my 2 boys (8 and 6). Loved it. So so great. no spoilers though.

[EagleFan]

I could not believe it when the Imperial leader reveals himself as mickey mouse right before Donald duck and goofy had that three way with disney princess Leah.

[Thomkal]

I could not believe it when the Imperial leader reveals himself as mickey mouse right before Donald duck and goofy had that three way with disney princess Leah.

Imaging the uproar if that was true-Disney might have gone bankrupt from all the lost business. :D

[Thomkal]

Star Wars: The Force Awakens On Pace to Crush Harry Potter Preview-Night Record | Comicbook.com (http://comicbook.com/2015/12/18/star-wars-the-force-awakens-on-pace-to-crush-harry-potter-previe/)

[Neuqua]

Saw it last night.

Loved it. I'm grateful to George Lucas for creating the universe, but I am glad others are able to take it to another level.

[Logan]

My post in the other thread:

I'm about to leave work to meet up with some buddies at the bar across from where we'll be seeing the 8:30 showing tonight. I've only seen the original and don't even remember it that well. There's 14 of us going, and we're roughly split between enormous fans and guys like me who are just trying to go see a good movie.

I'm expecting it to be really good even without knowing all the backstory, but I wouldn't penalize the movie if there's stuff I'm not following for those reasons.

I loved it. Thought it did a really good job keeping the story solid while being plenty entertaining. Didn't feel like I was missing very much having not seen the other movies.

[spleen1015]

Loved it!

Thanks George for selling it to Disney.

Thanks Disney for giving it to JJ Abrams!

Thanks JJ for another great Star Wars movie!

[BillJasper]

A very entertaining movie.

The most crowded Friday morning movie that I've ever been to.

I think Daisy Ridley is going to be a breakout star.

[molson]

I wish weekday 9AM movies were a regular thing.

I loved the movie, and loved the casting and directing and new characters. None of the new actors in the prequels felt like they were playing "Star Wars characters," if that makes sense. None of them jumped of the screen the same way they did in the original series (except maybe Ewan Mcgregor, but obviously he was working from the template of an existing character). These new characters though, they all worked. It felt like a big, modern, new Star Wars movie.

As an example, (spoiler)

The actor playing Kylo Ren had the screen presence Anakin Skywalker should have had in the prequels. I don't know if that's acting or directing or writing, but I think comparing those guys demonstrates what makes the new one work so well. And the blond Grand Moff Tarkin-esque guy was awesome too.

[BillJasper]

I think Adam Driver was the only thing in the movie that didn't work for me.

[Kodos]

Loved this movie. Worth the wait!

[NobodyHere]

I'm thinking of getting the Star Wars Holiday Special from Rifftrax.

Dare I?

[cougarfreak]

Damn. I think that might have topped Episode V as my favorite

[spleen1015]

I think Adam Driver was the only thing in the movie that didn't work for me.

Old Carrie Fisher didn't give me the Princess Leia vibe, but I can live with it.

I'm off until 1/4. I'll probably see this movie 4 more times before I go back to work. Looking forward to 10am Sunday for viewing #2.

[cthomer5000]

I think there are plenty of issues with the story, but I felt like they nailed the new characters.

"Good enough!" my friend and I joked as we drove home.

[ISiddiqui]

Good movie, wasn't great. But a nice foundation for the next few.

Too much like a remake of Ep 4. So many call backs and ending with a newer bigger Deathstar like thing? Come on, JJ

[BillJasper]

Good movie, wasn't great. But a nice foundation for the next few.

Too much like a remake of Ep 4. So many call backs and ending with a newer bigger Deathstar like thing? Come on, JJ

I think this is exactly what the film was meant to be. A quasi-retelling of A New Hope.

[stevew]

Thought it was a good blend of episode 3/4. Fisher really looks bad. I barely could tell it was Leia. Driver/Ridley/Boyega/Isaac were all great casting. Harrison Ford has definitely seen better days as well. Thought the lead admiral was kinda weak. Odds that Serkis's character is actually super tiny when we see him in non holo form?

[ColtCrazy]

Loved it. Thought it was a nice blending of new and old characters. New actors are very good, especially Rey. Second on my list only behind Empire.

I don't mind the similarities in plot to IV. I think this is what the franchise needed after the disappointments of I-III. It's not an exact retelling and there's a different plot line going forward. And big ass weapons are kind of the bad guy's thing. Part of their power complex.

[stevew]

wow, supposedly on pace to open to 250m+

[Draft Dodger]

I enjoyed it a lot more than I did the prequels; definitely think it captured the spirit of the originals much better.

The new characters were so impressive that at times I felt the presence of the old characters kind of got in their way (which is a good thing).

I was a little disappointed with the all the repetition in story. I mean, I know the master/apprentice dynamic and the internal struggle between light and dark side is going to have to be there. But I can't believe there's no other way to tell these stories without the underdog republic rising up to defeat the empire and their newest weapon of mass destruction (now on version 3.0).

Overall, very good execution of a disappointing story. I did enjoy it overall

[stevew]

I'll spoiler all this-



OBVIOUSLY the pressing question is "Who is rey" towards the end of the movie. I guess you could argue easily that she's either Kylo's sister or cousin. I'd speculate that she's the daughter of Luke Skywalker and she got dropped off on that planet and was being watched over by the guy who dies in the beginning. I still kind of feel that all of that is perhaps too obvious.

My out of left field theory is that she's actually Boba Fett's kid, as that could make some sense. He survives the scarlac pit. I know that Temuera Morrison(jango/boba) isn't exactly white, but they could make it work. It's scifi after all.

I also feel like she was using dark side style fighting techniques already so I'm not exactly going to be shocked if she turns to the dark side at some point in this trilogy.

[BillJasper]

I think Rey was a member of Luke's Jedi school, at the very least. More than likely his daughter and was drawing on forgotten training.

[Draft Dodger]

do we really need the spoiler tags? if you don't want to have the movie spoiled, you should not be in this thread.

I guess I could see it for the big stuff, but IMO most of these "spoilers" don't need the tag

[molson]

Ya, I think it's fair to have a cutoff now that the movie has been out for a few days. Maybe Grover can edit the thread title (though it looks like he hasn't been around for a while).

[stevew]

I'd say Monday would be more fair. It's only been out since Thursday.

[spleen1015]

I don't think there is any way Rey is not Luke's daughter.

The Star Wars Saga is about the Skywalker family and I don't think Kylo/Ben is the Skywalker this is really about.

[lighthousekeeper]

Saw it today with my family. I was shocked at how empty the theater was (there were only about 15 people at our showing).

[kcchief19]

Saw it today with my family. I was shocked at how empty the theater was (there were only about 15 people at our showing).
Anecdotal, but I was glancing at movie times today and saw that screenings at the biggest and best theaters were completely sold out. I wanted to give the 3D screening a try and went to a smaller, less popular theater and it was sparsely attended.

By this point, and with as few movies that I do see in the theater, it's IMAX 3D or nothing. Especially with action, especially when you know there's going to be plenty of action. 3D has gotten away from the schtick that it used to be and it flows much more naturally into the movie. It makes for one helluva impressive experience.
I wanted to try the IMAX 3D but the screening I could go to was sold out. I settled for a regular 3D screening, and again I was completely underwhelmed. I don't get why people enjoy this format. The 2D digital screening I saw Friday was lightspeed ahead of the 3D screening I saw today. The image was fuzzy, dimly lit, there was blurring of small objects and the annoying glow around almost everything.

I'd still give IMAX 3D a try, but RealD 3D is pure garbage, and it was utterly a waste on this film.

[EagleFan]

Didn't blow me away. Had some moments and was a nice big screen movie but I think that made it seem better than it was. Don't take this as me saying that I disliked it because I did enjoy the movie, but by no stretch of the imagination did I love the movie.

[Fidatelo]

Saw it with my six year-old this morning and we both had a great time. That fact alone is super cool. Definitely better than all of the prequels. I'd put it behind Empire and in similar territory to A New Hope.

(Jedi is too hard for me to rank because as a kid I absolutely loved it but as an adult so much of it doesn't hold up. And yet all the scenes with Luke, Vader, and the Emperor are still some of the best from any of the movies.)

[BillJasper]

The Force Awakens would probably rank third for me behind Empire... and A New Hope.

[sabotai]

Liked it. Felt like it could have been a lot better.

As far as Rey being Luke's daughter, during Rey's flashbacks there was a brief scene of a little girl yelling "come back" to a ship flying away. I'd imagine that was Rey and Luke was flying away. (Edit: Was looking at a thread on Reddit and read that someone said "Rey" to the little girl during that scene. I missed that.)

[Draft Dodger]

I'm holding out hope that she isn't, but I too kind of feel like that's what's going on.

this one I will spoil

you think in 20 years when Abrams redoes this one for the special edition, he'll change it so that Han slipped into the lightsaber?

[NobodyHere]

I just saw it this morning


Why was their lightsaber blue, shouldn't it have been green?

Also Luke must've not gotten around to giving lightsaber training to his trainee. Kylo was beaten by a complete newb.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Saw it this morning. Had heard from friends that it was good, but was too heavily borrowing from the previous story. That is an accurate and valid complaint, but I didn't care. I loved every minute of it.

[bob]

Need some help here. My wife said that Maz Kanata said to Rey that the lightsaber belonged to Rey's father and grandfather. I don't remember her saying that, but it could be that I missed it because of my daughter. Did that happen?

[NobodyHere]

Need some help here. My wife said that Maz Kanata said to Rey that the lightsaber belonged to Rey's father and grandfather. I don't remember her saying that, but it could be that I missed it because of my daughter. Did that happen?



According to Wookiepedia, she said the lightsaber belonged to Luke and his father before him.

Which goes back to my last comment that the lightsaber should've green. Or else it means they fished Luke's old lightsaber from wherever Cloud City orbits and fixed it.

[stevew]

It was the Nooooooooooooooo-saber. She got it out of the trash somehow

[spleen1015]

According to Wookiepedia, she said the lightsaber belonged to Luke and his father before him.

Which goes back to my last comment that the lightsaber should've green. Or else it means they fished Luke's old lightsaber from wherever Cloud City orbits and fixed it.


That's exactly what happened. They just didn't tell us how it happened yet.

[kcchief19]

Exactly.
The green lightsaber from ROTJ was only Luke's and never belong to Anakin/Vader. The blue saber Luke lost on Bespin was the one that belonged to Anakin and now is in Rey's possession. Maz Kanata got it somewhere but said the story was for another time.

[stevew]

Ok. I think we can probably ditch the spoilers soon.

[Draft Dodger]

Maz Kanata got it somewhere but said the story was for another time.

yet another side movie...

[BillJasper]

yet another side movie...

Shh!!! The Mouse might hear you! :lol:

[NobodyHere]

yet another side movie...

It does make we wonder how many movies Disney will make.

Will we be getting a new numbered movie every year from now on beyond 7-9? Will we be watching episode 14 in 2029?

[stevew]

I hope we get as many movies as possible

[BillJasper]

I'll be fine if they pull the curtain on the Skywalker family saga with Episode IX.

[stevew]

yet another side movie...

I read that the Actress was pretty bad at the motion capture stuff and they ended up trimming Maz's role considerably. I figure Maz getting the ********* would be a good side story if they elect to go in that direction. Thus far I think the schedule is

Rogue One-next Xmas
Episode 8 May of 2017
Han Solo Movie-2017-2018
Episode 9 May of 2019

Plus there's talk of a Yoda movie, perhaps a darth vader movie, and numerous other characters that could be used(darth Maul, Boba Fett, the Wookies)

[ColtCrazy]

I hope we get as many movies as possible

Agreed. If they are like this one, bring them on! It'll be interesting how they redo some stories now that a lot of things are non-canon. Boba Fett is one I'd like to see more on. Of course, I always thought a movie about KOTOR would have been spectacular.

[Chief Rum]

Coulda sworn they already had a Boba Fett one in pre-production, too, although I am being too lazy right now to look it up.

[Kodos]

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[Kodos]

This summarizes the upcoming movies:

Full Star Wars Movie Release Calendar | Den of Geek (http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-wars/241723/full-star-wars-movie-release-calendar)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_sequel_trilogy

[miked]

Has anyone seen this in 3D? I imagine you can't take off the glasses and watch it regularly if you get tired of it? We have a sitter tomorrow night and it's either go the dine-in movie theater (Buckhead fork and spoon) for a regular show, or hit up Phipps for a 3D show. I've never seen a movie in 3D in the theater, so I have no idea what to expect. It seems as though all the standard times are sold out, but the 3D have seats available (maybe because there are more of them). A lot of the online reviews say the fork and spoon is not the best experience, the lights have to stay partially on and it can get loud with people eating.

[Logan]

Has anyone seen this in 3D? I imagine you can't take off the glasses and watch it regularly if you get tired of it? We have a sitter tomorrow night and it's either go the dine-in movie theater (Buckhead fork and spoon) for a regular show, or hit up Phipps for a 3D show. I've never seen a movie in 3D in the theater, so I have no idea what to expect. It seems as though all the standard times are sold out, but the 3D have seats available (maybe because there are more of them). A lot of the online reviews say the fork and spoon is not the best experience, the lights have to stay partially on and it can get loud with people eating.

I think there are different types of 3D...IMAX 3D is one thing but then theaters have "regular" 3D showings that are more simple, for lack of a better word. I prefer normal 2D showings above those but you definitely don't want to take the glasses off for a prolonged period of time in any 3D show, I'd assume.

[lighthousekeeper]

Has anyone seen this in 3D? I imagine you can't take off the glasses and watch it regularly if you get tired of it? We have a sitter tomorrow night and it's either go the dine-in movie theater (Buckhead fork and spoon) for a regular show, or hit up Phipps for a 3D show. I've never seen a movie in 3D in the theater, so I have no idea what to expect. It seems as though all the standard times are sold out, but the 3D have seats available (maybe because there are more of them). A lot of the online reviews say the fork and spoon is not the best experience, the lights have to stay partially on and it can get loud with people eating.

Here's the weird thing that happened to me: we supposedly saw the 3D version (paid for the 3d version, went into a room clearly marked 3d). Everyone else in the theater had the 3d glasses on throughout the movie. But I swear the movie wasn't in 3D. I took my glasses off early on during the movie because it was clearer without them and just watched the movie normally.

[molson]

Regular 3D seems to vary in quality by screen. IMAX 3D is the way to go, and just anecdotally, I've heard that version of Star Wars is well-done and not overly ridiculous with the visuals.

[Kodos]

I generally avoid 3D and Imax, as I dislike both of them. First time I saw Star Wars was 2D and from a good viewing spot. Second time, it was Imax 3D from too close and over to the side. Definitely better in 2D, although this was probably the least annoying 3D movie I've seen since Avatar.

[ISiddiqui]

I hope we get as many movies as possible

Ugh, not me. I have long since had Marvel movie fatigue (I haven't seen Thor 2, Avengers 2, Ant-Man and don't care that I missed any of them), I don't want Star Wars fatigue (as I like SW far better than the Marvel movies).

[Kodos]

I agree on the Marvel fatigue, but then I've never been a comic book geek.

[NobodyHere]

Ugh, not me. I have long since had Marvel movie fatigue (I haven't seen Thor 2, Avengers 2, Ant-Man and don't care that I missed any of them), I don't want Star Wars fatigue (as I like SW far better than the Marvel movies).

I feel the same way about Marvel. I hope I don't get that feeling about Star Wars.

But with that being said I hope we don't have to wait 10-15 years between trilogies (assuming they don't abandon the trilogy model).

[Easy Mac]

I have nothing useful to add, other than I went at 9 PM last night and there were maybe 15 empty seats in the theater.

I'm torn on Adam Driver. I both liked his portrayal, and didn't for pretty much the same reasons. He essentially did the whiny, Hayden Christiansen thing, but he seemed to elevate it so that it worked, but still seemed kind of annoying. Also, I'm not sure his line delivery works well for something like Star Wars. His speech pattern is a bit too rapid fire and works much better in indie movies... but I still really liked it/hated it while it was going on.

[SegRat]

I loved the movie!

[stevew]

Ugh, not me. I have long since had Marvel movie fatigue (I haven't seen Thor 2, Avengers 2, Ant-Man and don't care that I missed any of them), I don't want Star Wars fatigue (as I like SW far better than the Marvel movies).


All of the Marvel movies are basically the same. I'm excited that we'll get all kinds of movies about different places in the star wars trilogy. The casting for Rogue One looks great and it should be an exciting story.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I have nothing useful to add, other than I went at 9 PM last night and there were maybe 15 empty seats in the theater.

I'm torn on Adam Driver. I both liked his portrayal, and didn't for pretty much the same reasons. He essentially did the whiny, Hayden Christiansen thing, but he seemed to elevate it so that it worked, but still seemed kind of annoying. Also, I'm not sure his line delivery works well for something like Star Wars. His speech pattern is a bit too rapid fire and works much better in indie movies... but I still really liked it/hated it while it was going on.

I'm with you 100% on Driver. I think the fact that he annoyed us means he's actually nailing it as a character. This is essentially the performance Anakin Skywalker deserved in the prequels (I think someone may have mentioned that up thread). Then again, based upon the thematic circumstances, Kylo has much better reason to be the angsty teen.

I really liked the description he gave of being "seduced" by the light side of the force. Interesting to coach it in those terms, and it makes me wonder if moving forward we're going to see a bit of a step back from the stark black and white nature of light side versus dark side.

[ISiddiqui]

We really need a grey side of the force ;).

[Fidatelo]

We really need a grey side of the force ;).

Are you saying we need a... Tri-force??
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[Galaril]

I'm with you 100% on Driver. I think the fact that he annoyed us means he's actually nailing it as a character. This is essentially the performance Anakin Skywalker deserved in the prequels (I think someone may have mentioned that up thread). Then again, based upon the thematic circumstances, Kylo has much better reason to be the angsty teen.

I really liked the description he gave of being "seduced" by the light side of the force. Interesting to coach it in those terms, and it makes me wonder if moving forward we're going to see a bit of a step back from the stark black and white nature of light side versus dark side.

Yeah Driver was a gigantic disappointment for me and my girlfriend. Once he took the mask off I was like what is Andrew Lloyd Webers son in this. Maybe if they didn't so quickly reveal his face it might of kept him menacing. I hope he gets all Dark Force going forward.

[Racer]

I'll spoiler all this-



OBVIOUSLY the pressing question is "Who is rey" towards the end of the movie. I guess you could argue easily that she's either Kylo's sister or cousin. I'd speculate that she's the daughter of Luke Skywalker and she got dropped off on that planet and was being watched over by the guy who dies in the beginning. I still kind of feel that all of that is perhaps too obvious.

My out of left field theory is that she's actually Boba Fett's kid, as that could make some sense. He survives the scarlac pit. I know that Temuera Morrison(jango/boba) isn't exactly white, but they could make it work. It's scifi after all.

I also feel like she was using dark side style fighting techniques already so I'm not exactly going to be shocked if she turns to the dark side at some point in this trilogy.

A friend of mine suggested she may be a descendant of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Maybe Granddaughter or Great Granddaughter if that was the case? Apparently, it was Obi-Wan's voice when she first touched the light saber beneath that bar.

Emperor Palpatine descendant might also be kind of cool. Long lost daughter of Luke Skywalker seems like it might be the most likely, but it might also be to expected.

[NobodyHere]

A friend of mine suggested she may be a descendant of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Maybe Granddaughter or Great Granddaughter if that was the case? Apparently, it was Obi-Wan's voice when she first touched the light saber beneath that bar.

Emperor Palpatine descendant might also be kind of cool. Long lost daughter of Luke Skywalker seems like it might be the most likely, but it might also be to expected.

Are we still using spoiler tags?


If she is the daughter of Luke then why did he abandon her?

My own leading theory is a Palpatine descendant or other dark Jedi myself, although I dunno if they want to go to that well again.

Also, who was Max Von Sydow's character and how did he get a piece of Skywalker's map?

[stevew]

She does look a lot like Natalie Portman. At least when she was in Tatooine gear

[molson]

Are we still using spoiler tags?


If she is the daughter of Luke then why did he abandon her?




That bothered me a little. Not necessarily as a flaw with the movie, but just that I was annoyed with Luke. Daughter or no daughter, your sister and the resistance are having some trouble and might all be destroyed at any second Luke, so maybe stop staring off into the water on some Ireland-like hill for 10 minutes and come help out. Luke always was such a drama queen.

Edit: I now realize you were talking about the initial abandonment rather than Luke running off and throwing a tantrum. Kind of the same deal though. But maybe she had to grow up on a desert shithole like he did to fulfill her destiny.

[TexasT]

Saw it in 3D. Was awesome.

[Fidatelo]

That bothered me a little. Not necessarily as a flaw with the movie, but just that I was annoyed with Luke. Daughter or no daughter, your sister and the resistance are having some trouble and might all be destroyed at any second Luke, so maybe stop staring off into the water on some Ireland-like hill for 10 minutes and come help out. Luke always was such a drama queen.

Edit: I now realize you were talking about the initial abandonment rather than Luke running off and throwing a tantrum. Kind of the same deal though. But maybe she had to grow up on a desert shithole like he did to fulfill her destiny.




Didn't Yoda and Obi-Wan sort of do the same thing? I mean one was chilling out in the swamps of Dagobah and the other being some hermit on Tatooine while Vader and Palpatine were kicking ass all over the galaxy. Seems like the Jedi have a history of this sort of behaviour.

[larrymcg421]

That bothered me a little. Not necessarily as a flaw with the movie, but just that I was annoyed with Luke. Daughter or no daughter, your sister and the resistance are having some trouble and might all be destroyed at any second Luke, so maybe stop staring off into the water on some Ireland-like hill for 10 minutes and come help out. Luke always was such a drama queen.

Edit: I now realize you were talking about the initial abandonment rather than Luke running off and throwing a tantrum. Kind of the same deal though. But maybe she had to grow up on a desert shithole like he did to fulfill her destiny.



Does he know what's going on? If he went into hiding after Kylo turned, he probably doesn't know what's happened with the resistance and everything else. Furthermore, because of his failure with Kylo, he might see himself as more of a hindrance than a help.