Heh. Worst Season By An Offensive Lineman Ever???

[Ben E Lou]

From the CCFL's just-completed 2041 season...

<table bgcolor="#00143E" border="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><center><center>Leonard Postosties Award</center></center></td><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><center><center>LT Cary Engel (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ccfl/ben/playercard.php?playerid=29558)</center></center></td><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><center><center>8 for 41 KRB. (19.5%) 0 pnk. 25 sks.</center></center></td><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><center><center>Given to the qualifier with the lowest overall performance score</center></center></td><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><center><center>http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ccfl/ben/small/helmet4.png (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ccfl/ben/teampage.php?teamid=4)</center></center></td></tr></tbody></table>

[Julio Riddols]

Holy shitballs.

[gstelmack]

QB has a 6 sense rush skill according to the site. 23-rated LT combined with that seems to portend a David Carr like season. QB was sacked 62 times all told.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Might have to rename it the Cary Engel award. Wow.

[Adgnash]

How did you get that guy on your team (draft/FA)? What did his combine scores look like?

On this topic, I am guessing a Key Running Block is when the RB runs into the assigned blockers lane? Is this correct?

Is there a place I can find more info on what to look for in an offensive line (i.e. is Run Blocking more important than Strength, do both wear down as the guy gets tired so Endurance is important, etc).

Thx in advance.

Found the reference thread - very helpful! http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=57507

[aston217]

On every non-scramble play, there is a "KRB Opportunity." If the run is "successful", then a KRB has been made and will be assigned to a player.

I attend the FireflyTM school of Pass Blocking Is The Only Bar That Matters for offensive linemen. YMMV ;)

[beeznik]

On every non-scramble play, there is a "KRB Opportunity." If the run is "successful", then a KRB has been made and will be assigned to a player.

I attend the FireflyTM school of Pass Blocking Is The Only Bar That Matters for offensive linemen. YMMV ;)

I agree with this line of thinking for the previous version of the game, but is it still valid for this one?

[QuikSand]

On every non-scramble play, there is a "KRB Opportunity." If the run is "successful", then a KRB has been made and will be assigned to a player.

I attend the FireflyTM school of Pass Blocking Is The Only Bar That Matters for offensive linemen. YMMV ;)

I agree with the first part. Not the second...or at least it doesn't follow necessarily.

[gstelmack]

The question not being asked is "how important is the run blocking bar to the success of the run in the first place?".

[aston217]

Yeah, that is 2k7 thinking. In that game the RB bar seemed to matter only a little, and I'd say none of the OL stats were a very good barometer for performance. The bars told you all you needed to know.

[Firefly]

I don't see anything changing in that regard so far

[QuikSand]

I agree there's no reason to think this (the system of assigning KRO and KRB) has changed. Odds are very steep against it, I'd say.

However, just because you don't like the KRO/KRB system and it's "assignment" process doesn't necessarily mean that the run blocking skill isn't used in the game. It seems perfectly likely that in each run play there's some sort of "blocking check" made with some set of ratings for the offense versus some set of ratings for the defense. In that calculation, maybe it's something like "average of all blockers + actual rating of key blocker" is the number used for that result, which then translated to some effect on the outcome of the play. If that's true (or something like it is) then there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the concept of the key run block assignment. It's maybe less direct than you'd like it to be, but it does seem like "percent success on runs where this player was the most important blocker" is a useful thing to know, even if it doesn't directly hit the nail on the head as much as we stat-heads might like.

[Adgnash]

So when building out a power run team would you value the RB bar over Blocking strength? I was thinking guys that can blow up the D Line (pancake) and open a big hole or at least get forward push for positive yards, but should I be thinking/putting more value on RB first?

Thanks in advance guys. This community is great.

[aston217]

Quik, it's just that I don't think 2k7 had adequately strong punishments for not having the RB bar. Versus have two guys who can't pass block on your line and watch your passing game get wrecked... In FOF7 that may very well have changed, but I couldn't say. For the stat, it might make sense to compare among your team...just that comparing across teams or years may be misleading because it's so dependent on GP & overall quality of the team.

In general, Adgnash, I've felt the "skill bars" outweighed the "strength bars" considerably. That's something I would guess probably has not changed much. I.e, skill+strength is best, but skill alone >> strength alone.