FOFC Keeper League 2014

[Lathum]

OK, lets get this going by finding out who is coming back.

I am in as well as Molly.

Schedule-

7/29- Final confirmation of owners
7/31- New owners assigned
7/31- New Rules Proposed
8/4- Begin Voting on New Rules
8/6- Voting for new rules ends
8/11- Keepers due
8/13- Draft begins- Slow draft on Fleaflicker- 10 hours to pick.

[claphamsa]

im interested :)

[Chief Rum]

This is the one we ran on the other site right (I.e. not ESPN or Yahoo)? If so, I'll be back.

[Lathum]

fleaflicker

[Chief Rum]

That's right, that's the one. Yeah I would like back in please.

[JAG]

Back. Will try and sort out things tonight.

[PackerFanatic]

I am going to bow out this year. Good luck everyone!

[saldana]

im still in

[Lathum]

so far 5 in, on out ( we'll miss you PF) and Clap wants in. I'll give it a couple days then PM anyone we haven't heard from.

[samifan24]

I'm back too. Thanks guys.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm in for realz

[Danny]

If it's a forum draft again I will have to bow out.

[Lathum]

If it's a forum draft again I will have to bow out.

we have never done a forum draft. we do a slow draft on fleaflicker.

Are you trying to say unless it is a live draft you are out?

[Lathum]

Returning
- Lathum- Lathums Brew Crew
-MollyMurphy- Mollys Murphys
- Saldana- Sals Transgenders
- Chief Rum- Hammersmith Hooligans
- JAG- Callous Doughboys
-Julio Riddlos- Bold Strategy Cotton
- Samifan- The FOFC All Stars
- NTNDeacon- Klein Bottles
- CMGDodgers

Out- PAckerfanatic- Gridiron Warriors
- Spleen- Touchdown MAfia
- Danny- Roadkill Cafe




Requested a team-
Clap
Ragone
Vince



I am going to PM The three. I would say if we haven't heard back by Monday 7/28 we start soliciting replacements.

[Danny]

That's what I meant , I don't have the availability to do a non live draft

[Lathum]

ok. PMs sent to all 3 who have not replied yet.

NTN and CMG were on FOFC as recently as yesterday.

Spleen hasn't been on in 7 months so that could be a bit problematic. I sent him a PM anyway.

[Lathum]

dola- I am not opposed to a live draft if we could somehow coordinate that, I just think it would be difficult.

[Ragone]

I'm interested as well..

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'll throw my name in the ring if you need another body as well.

[Lathum]

I'm interested as well..

I'll throw my name in the ring if you need another body as well.

added

[ntndeacon]

I'll be back!

[cmgdodgers]

I'm back in as well!

[Lathum]

OK, so we are just waiting on Spleen nd Danny

[Lathum]

I sent Danny a PM to clarify his intentions, since his post in here was a little vague. I think it is safe to say Spleen won't be back. Once I hear from Danny we can assign new owners and get things kicked off.

[Danny]

I'm going to give up my spot.

[Lathum]

OK- 3 out and 3 new requests should button things up.

Between me and JAG we'll get rosters and rules posted. Selection of new teams will be in order of requested. So Clap- Ragone- Vince

I have posted a schedule in the first post of the thread

[JAG]

Current Team Rosters:

There are 4 designations for players listed below:

(1) - This player was acquired in the offseason and may be kept for this season and two others. They must be a keeper for this season (either rookie, if possible or desired, or a position).
No number listed - This player may be kept for this season and the following season if selected as a keeper.
(3) - This player can only be kept for this season if selected as a keeper.
(4) - This player can not be kept or traded. They will be a free agent when the draft begins.

Rosters:

Roadkill Cafe --- Vince, Pt. II
T. Romo QB DAL
D. Murray RB DAL
D. Williams RB CAR
C. Ivory RB NYJ
J. Randle RB DAL
L. Murray RB OAK
M. Lattimore RB SF
A. Brown WR PIT
G. Jennings WR MIN
L. Fitzgerald (3) WR ARI
K. Stills WR NO
R. Woods WR BUF
D. Walker TE TEN
Z. Ertz TE PHI

Unstoppable --- claphamsa
A. Luck QB IND
E. Manning QB NYG
C. Johnson RB TEN
R. Bush RB DET
M. Jones-Drew RB JAC
D. Sproles RB NO
M. Wallace WR MIA
K. Wright WR TEN
T. Austin WR STL
R. Cooper WR PHI
J. Jones (3) WR GB
V. Brown WR SD
J. Witten TE DAL


The FOFC All-Stars --- samifan24
M. Ryan (3) QB ATL
F. Gore RB SF
S. Vereen RB NE
C. Spiller (3) RB BUF
A. Foster RB HOU
C. Patterson WR MIN
C. Michael RB SEA
J. Gordon (3) WR CLE
J. Cotchery WR PIT
M. Colston WR NO
R. Cobb (3) WR GB
D. Rogers WR IND
P. Harvin WR SEA
D. Pitta TE BAL
J. Cameron TE CLE
L. Green TE SD

Callous Dowboys --- JAG
J. Cutler QB CHI
G. Bernard RB CIN
A. Brown RB NYG
D. Martin (3) RB TB
J. Todman RB JAC
T. Gerhart RB MIN
D. Thomas WR DEN
V. Jackson WR TB
P. Garcon WR WAS
J. Hunter WR TEN
V. Davis TE SF

Klein Bottles --- ntndeacon
R. Wilson QB SEA
T. Brady (4) QB NE
A. Peterson RB MIN
R. Mendenhall RB ARI
D. Thomas RB MIA
B. Hartline WR MIA
S. Smith WR CAR
N. Washington WR TEN
J. Edelman WR NE
D. Bowe WR KC
S. Rice WR SEA
J. Graham (3) TE NO
J. Reed TE WAS
S. Chandler TE BUF

Hammersmith Hooligans --- Chief Rum
J. Flacco QB BAL
C. Palmer QB ARI
C. Kaepernick (3) QB SF
N. Foles QB PHI
J. Charles RB KC
R. Jennings RB OAK
T. Richardson RB IND
A. Jeffery WR CHI
A. Johnson WR HOU
K. Allen WR SD
M. Crabtree WR SF
T. Smith WR BAL
H. Miller TE PIT
R. Gronkowski TE NE

Sal's Transgenders --- saldana
C. Newton (3) QB CAR
R. Tannehill (3) QB MIA
R. Mathews RB SD
M. Ingram RB NO
D. Woodhead RB SD
B. Green-Ellis (3) RB CIN
J. Nelson (3) WR GB
R. White WR ATL
A. Boldin WR SF
A. Dobson WR NE
S. Holmes WR NYJ
D. Heyward-Bey WR IND
C. Fleener TE IND
B. Celek TE PHI

Prestige Collection --- cmgdodgers
D. Brees (4) QB NO
Z. Stacy RB STL
L. McCoy (4) RB PHI
M. Ball RB DEN
C. Ogbonnaya RB CLE
B. Marshall (3) WR CHI
D. Jackson WR PHI
W. Welker WR DEN
G. Tate WR SEA
E. Sanders WR PIT
R. Randle WR NYG
J. Cook TE STL
J. Carlson TE ARI

Mollys Murphys --- MollyMurphy
P. Rivers QB SD
M. Stafford QB DET
M. Tolbert RB CAR
M. Forte RB CHI
P. Thomas RB NO
A. Ellington RB ARI
D. Bryant WR DAL
B. LaFell WR CAR
A. Roberts WR ARI
M. Wheaton WR PIT
A. Gates TE SD
J. Thomas TE DEN

Sechs-Punkte-Sonntag --- Julio Riddols
C. Keenum QB HOU
A. Dalton (3) QB CIN
K. Moreno RB DEN
B. Rainey RB TB
R. Rice (3) RB BAL
A. Morris RB WAS
E. Decker WR DEN
H. Douglas WR ATL
A. Green WR CIN
M. Floyd WR ARI
T. Gonzalez TE ATL
C. Clay TE MIA
T. Eifert TE CIN

Touchdown Mafia --- Ragone
P. Manning (3) QB DEN
T. Pryor QB SEA
M. Lynch RB SEA
E. Lacy RB GB
B. Tate RB CLE
J. Jones WR ATL
T. Hilton WR IND
V. Cruz (3) WR NYG
D. Amendola WR NE
D. Hopkins WR HOU
K. Thompkins WR NE
G. Olsen TE CAR

Lathums Brew Crew --- Lathum
A. Smith QB KC
A. Rodgers QB GB
L. Bell RB PIT
S. Jackson RB ATL
F. Jackson RB BUF
S. Ridley RB NE
B. Powell RB NYJ
C. Johnson WR DET
T. Williams WR DAL
S. Johnson WR SF
E. Royal WR SD
J. Boykin WR GB
G. Graham TE HOU

For future planning purposes, the following are keeper designations at the end of the 2014 season if players remain on their current teams:

Houston Hippopotami - cmgdodgers
WR Brandon Marshall (4)

The FOFC All-Stars - samifan24
QB Matt Ryan (4)
RB CJ Spiller (4)
WR Randall Cobb (4)
Rookie - WR Josh Gordon (4)
C. Patterson WR MIN
C. Michael RB SEA

Roadill Cafe - Vince, Pt. II
WR Larry Fitzgerald (4)

Mollys Murphys - MollyMurphy
RB Matt Forte
RB Andre Ellington

Lathum's Brew Crew - Lathum
Le'Veon Bell

Touchdown Mafia - Ragone
QB Peyton Manning (4)
WR Julio Jones

Unstoppable - claphamsa
RB Reggie Bush
WR James Jones (4)

Callous Dowboys - JAG
RB Doug Martin (4)

Klein Bottles - ntndeacon
RB Adrian Peterson
TE Jordan Reed
TE Jimmy Graham (4)

Hammersmith Hooligans - Chief Rum
QB Nick Foles
WR A. Jeffery

saldana's Transgenders - saldana
QB Cam Newton (4)
RB Green-Ellis (4)
WR Jordy Nelson (4)
Rookie - QB Ryan Tannehill (4)

Bold Strategy Cotton - Julio Riddols
QB Andy Dalton (4)
RB Alfred Morris

[Lathum]

FOFC Keeper League Rules

Playoffs:

1. Each season six teams make the playoffs. The two division winners each receive a bye week in week 14. The remaining four playoff spots are determined in order of which teams have the best record and seeded accordingly.

2. Week 15, the first and second seeded teams play the wildcard winners. The winners move on to the Championship round. The losers play the following week in the Third Place game.

3. Week 16, the final two teams play for the Championship and the losers from the week before play in the Third Place game. The team that wins the Championship receives the 12th pick in the first round of the following year's draft and the team that loses receives the 11th pick. The team that wins the Third Place receives the 9th pick in the first round, the loser of that game receives the 10th pick in the first round.

Loser's bracket:

1. Starting week 14, the teams that do not qualify for the playoffs are in a bracket of their own with the team that wins gaining the first overall pick in the following year's draft. Week 14, the 7th and 8th place teams receive a bye with the 9th through 12th teams playing each other. The winners advance. The two teams that lose the wildcard games receive the 5th and 6th picks in the first round of the following year's draft (and all subsequent snake draft picks). The order of these two teams is determined by coin flip (random).

2. Week 15, the 7th and 8th place teams play the 9th-12th place teams that won the week before. The winners advance to the Loser Bowl (ironically), the losers advance to the 3rd Overall Pick bowl.

3. Week 16 are the remaining two games. The team that wins the Loser Bowl receives the first overall pick in next year's draft with the loser receiving the second overall pick. The winner of the 3rd Overall Pick bowl gains the third overall pick and the loser receives the 4th overall pick.


Trading Rules

All trades

All trades are subject to 24 hour review. If five owners veto a trade during that time period, the trade is nullified.

In-Season Trades

Players and/or draft picks for the following season's draft may be traded between teams up until the trade deadline. The trade deadline was previously specified by the rules as the Saturday after Thanksgiving, but is currently listed as Week 10 (11/6-11/12) and it is unlikely we have used the 'Saturday after Thanksgiving' rule in a number of seasons.

Offseason trades

1. All players and/or draft picks for the upcoming draft may be traded between teams as soon as the Championship game has been completed and until keepers are announced for the next season. The keeper announcement signifies the start of a new season.. Any players received in a trade become keepers for the acquiring team.

2. If a player is unkeepable (they have been on a team for three seasons as outlined in the Keeper section of the Rules), that player may not be traded in the offseason.

Keeper Rules:

1. You may keep up to 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR/TE, and 1 rookie. If you do not keep a player at one or more of these positions, you will be awarded an extra draft pick at the end of the draft to allow you to fill out your roster. Note that a rookie keeper year counts the same as a regular keeper year towards the three season limit outlined in point 2. below.

2. No player may be on your team for more than 3 consecutive seasons without being exposed to the draft. Being exposed to the draft resets this eligibility (e.g. if a player is drafted two years in a row, they could potentially be on the same team four total consecutive years). The following situations outlines the various keeper situations:

a. A player is acquired via the draft: You use the player that season and can keep them up to two additional times for a total of three seasons.
b. A player is acquired by trade after keepers are declared (in-season): You use the player that season and can keep them up to two additional times for a total of 2.5-3 seasons.
c. A player is acquired by trade before keepers are declared (off-season): You can keep the player three total times to use them for a total of three seasons.
d. A player is picked up off waivers / free agency: You can use the player for that season and keep them two addition seasons for a total of 2-3 seasons.

3. At the end of the third season on a player's team, a keeper is a free agent and the player does not have off-season rights to trade them or keep them again.

4. If a new owner takes over a team, they receive one final season of eligibility for any otherwise expiring keepers.


Starting lineup requirements:

1 QB
1 RB
2 WR
1 RB / WR
1 WR / TE
1 TE
1 K
1 D/ST

7 bench slots


Tiebreakers:

Individual Game Tiebreakers

1. Higher bench points total
2. Most total starter Combined TDs
3. Highest individual starter score

Break Regular Season Ties No

Power & Playoff Rank Tiebreakers
1. Best head-to-head record
2. Best division record (same division only)
3. Most average points/game
4. Hardest schedule (record)
5. Hardest schedule (points)


Transaction Rules

Add/Drop Deadline None
Trading Deadline Week 10 Tue 11/6-Mon 11/12
Trade Review Period 24 Hours
Enforce Roster Minimums Yes
Prevent Cuts After Game Start Yes
Who is Placed on Waivers Dropped players AND all free agents after game start (recommended)
How Are Claims Resolved Waiver Priority
Time on Waivers After Drop 24 Hours
Lock Recently Added Yes
Process Game-Start Waivers On Wednesday
Reset Order Weekly Yes
Transaction Limits Unlimited


Scoring rules:

Passing

1 point for every 20 Passing Yards ALL
9 extra points when total Passing Yards is greater than or equal to 500 ALL
3 extra points when total Passing Yards is between 300 and 399 (inclusive)
6 extra points when total Passing Yards is between 400 and 499 (inclusive)
3 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Passing ALL
6 points for every Passing TD ALL
3 extra points for every Passing TD of 50 or more yards ALL
-1 point for every Interception ALL
-1 point for every 2 Times Sacked (-0.5 per) ALL

Rushing

1 point for every 10 Rushing Yards (0.1 per) ALL
15 extra points when total Rushing Yards is greater than or equal to 300 ALL
3 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 100 and 149 (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 150 and 199 (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 200 and 249 (inclusive) ALL
12 extra points when total Rushing Yards is between 250 and 299 (inclusive) ALL
3 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Rushing ALL
6 points for every Rushing TD ALL
3 extra points for every Rushing TD of 50 or more yards ALL

Receiving

1 point for every 10 Receiving Yards (0.1 per) ALL
15 extra points when total Receiving Yards is greater than or equal to 300 ALL
3 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 100 and 149 (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 150 and 199 (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 200 and 249 (inclusive) ALL
12 extra points when total Receiving Yards is between 250 and 299 (inclusive) ALL
3 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Receiving ALL
6 points for every Receiving TD ALL
3 extra points for every Receiving TD of 50 or more yards ALL

Misc

-1 point for every Fumble Lost ALL

Kicking

3 points for every Field Goal Made ALL
2 extra points for every Field Goal Made of 55 or more yards ALL
1 extra point for every Field Goal Made between 45 and 54 yards (inclusive) ALL
1 point for every XP ALL
-1 point for every XP Missed ALL

Returning

6 points for every Kick Return TD TM
6 points for every Punt Return TD TM

Defense

2 points for every Interception ALL
1 point for every Sack ALL
2 points for every Fumble Recovered TM
2 points for every Safety ALL
6 points for every Defensive TD ALL
3 extra points for every Defensive TD between 50 and 99 yards (inclusive) ALL
1 point for every XP Blocked ALL
1 point for every FG Blocked ALL
1 point for every Punt Blocked ALL
10 extra points when total Points Allowed is exactly 0 TM
7 extra points when total Offensive Points Allowed (FG, Pass TD, Rush TD) is between 1 and 6 (inclusive) TM
4 extra points when total Offensive Points Allowed (FG, Pass TD, Rush TD) is between 7 and 9 (inclusive) TM
3 extra points when total Offensive Points Allowed (FG, Pass TD, Rush TD) is between 10 and 16 (inclusive) TM

[Lathum]

I'm willing to move Foles or Rodgers for the right deal

[JAG]

Past League Champions:

2004 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=29613) - Lathum's Brew Crew
2005 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=40277) - Vic's Heroes
2006 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51837) - Callous Dowboys
2007 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=60135) - Callous Dowboys
2008 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=67125) - Shaka's Big Shooters
2009 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=73767) - Houston Hippopotami
2010 (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=78626) – The FOFC All-Stars
2011 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=81851) – Houston Hippopotami
2012 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=84284) – Callous Dowboys
2013 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=2837310) – Hammersmith Hooligans

[JAG]

2014 Draft Order

1. Callous Dowboys
2. Sal's Transgenders
3. Klein Bottles
4. Meat Tornadoes
5. MollyMurphy (won coin flip)
6. Lathum's Brew Crew (lost coin flip)
7. Sechs-Punkte-Sonntag (win coin flip)
8. Prestige Collection (lost coin flip)
9. Touchdown Mafia
10. The FOFC All-Stars
11. Roadkill Cafe
12. Hammersmith Hooligans

[MollyMurphy]

So if they have a 4 next to their name that means we get them for this season then can't keep them. Correct?

[JAG]

So if they have a 4 next to their name that means we get them for this season then can't keep them. Correct?

If looking at your full current roster and there's a player with a (4) next to their name, you no longer have the rights to that player and they are a free agent. If they have a (3) next to their name, you can keep them for the 2014 season and then they are a free agent after the season.

At the bottom of the roster post, I made a list of players that would have the (4) designation after the 2014 season is over if they remain on their current team. I did this as a way for people to plan for life after those players, either by trading them before you lose their rights or to draft their replacement or make an in-season trade with them or however you want to deal with it.

[samifan24]

Heh my team is gonna be a disaster. Thanks, Josh Gordon.

[Julio Riddols]

Anyone interested in Jeffery, Decker or Floyd?

Looking for RB help.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Confirming interest. It looks as though I get whatever's left, so I'll sit patiently by :)

[claphamsa]

im in, ill take the meat tornados

[Lathum]

im in, ill take the meat tornados

cool.

PM me your email.

[Ragone]

I'm still in.. Looking at teams now to choose

[Ragone]

I'll take the TD mafia

[JAG]

I've assigned the open teams. For the benefit of new owners, you can choose to keep 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR/TE, and 1 rookie each season. A player cannot be on your team more than three years in a row without being exposed to the draft (partial seasons count as a full year, for in-season trades or free agent pick ups) and you lose that player's rights if they go the full 3 years. There is no benefit to not keeping a player at those positions.

That's all in the rules, but figured I've highlight that. Keepers are not due until 8/11 so there's no reason to declare them at this time.

[JAG]

For teams without rookie keepers, I have a number of them I'd be willing to move for the right price (Cordarrelle Patterson, Christine Michael, Justin Hunter) and others I'd be willing to trade with them (Vincent Jackson and others). Looking for draft picks mostly, maybe a stud QB.

[Vince, Pt. II]

So I've registered on the site. Do we need to go through anything to make the team ours? I'd like to get familiar with the interface, etc.

Edit: Found the league, just need to see about getting the team into my hands :)

[Lathum]

So I've registered on the site. Do we need to go through anything to make the team ours? I'd like to get familiar with the interface, etc.

Edit: Found the league, just need to see about getting the team into my hands :)

send me or JAG your email and we'll invite you

[PackerFanatic]

im in, ill take the meat tornados

Yeah you will... ;)

Good luck with them, clap!

[claphamsa]

ok, looked the team over.. and the keepers are all obvious. Except RB, since i have very little talent there. anyone wanna trade me a RB? FYI I have no FOFC while at work...

[Lathum]

ok, looked the team over.. and the keepers are all obvious. Except RB, since i have very little talent there. anyone wanna trade me a RB? FYI I have no FOFC while at work...

Do you have access to Fleaflicker either at work or on your phone?

That could become problematic when we draft. You may need to send in a list.

[Lathum]

OK, opening up the floor for new rules proposals.

[JAG]

Lathum, can you please make a couple updates to the rules based on what we passed last season?

Under Playoffs, please change 1. to:

1. Each season six teams make the playoffs. The two division winners each receive a bye week in week 14. The remaining four playoff spots are determined in order of which teams have the best record and seeded accordingly.

Starting lineup requirements should have a TE required position added to it.

Bench spots should be 7 instead of 6.

Thanks.

[Lathum]

fixed

[Lathum]

OK. I have yet to see any new rules proposals. If there are none by 9 AM tomorrow morning we will close down that portion. At that point begin evaluating your rosters for keepers and trades prior to the keeper deadline.

[Lathum]

JAG- just for my own, and maybe someone elses clarification. The following players can't be kept or traded this upcoming season

T. Brady (4) QB NE
D. Brees (4) QB NO
L. McCoy (4) RB PHI

is that correct?

[JAG]

JAG- just for my own, and maybe someone elses clarification. The following players can't be kept or traded this upcoming season

T. Brady (4) QB NE
D. Brees (4) QB NO
L. McCoy (4) RB PHI

is that correct?

Correct, even though they're currently listed as being on a person's roster, they are actually free agents available to draft this season.

[Lathum]

OK- No new rules proposals to vote on.

Keepers can be submitted anytime. Please post all trades ITT.

[Julio Riddols]

Current keepers: Green, Eifert. Still looking for a RB. I have Michael Floyd and Alshon Jeffery available, both should be excellent this year.

[Chief Rum]

Trade Announcement:

Lathum's Brew Crew sends:

QB Nick Foles

to Hammersmith Hooligans for:

RB Le'Veon Bell
HAM's 4th round pick this year

Lathum to confirm.

Thanks Lathum and good luck this season.

[Lathum]

Deal.

[JAG]

cmgdodgers and I made a trade on Fleaflicker, his 3rd round pick for RG3.

[MollyMurphy]

Looking to move Peterson for another keeper level RB.

Also have Julio Jones I can move

[Chief Rum]

Some guys available for trade from the Hooligans:

QB Kaepernick, Flacco, Palmer
RB Morris, Jennings, Richardson
WR A. Johnson, Crabtree, T. Smith
TE Gronk, Miller

I'm going to keep one of those WR/TEs, and Keenan Allen will be my rookie protection. If you give me a better option than the WR/TE I have, I might do that, but mostly I am looking for picks.

[samifan24]

My entire team is available. I'm the FOFC All-Stars.

[samifan24]

I'm trading away my rookie keeper slot. How do I designate that in a Fleaflicker trade?

[Chief Rum]

I'm trading away my rookie keeper slot. How do I designate that in a Fleaflicker trade?

I'm not sure that's allowed is it? I don't think the slots are tradeable. You can trade rookies.

[ntndeacon]

I was wondering about that myself.

[Lathum]

Err. That's never come up but I don't think it should be allowed. That sets what is IMO a dangerous precedent that could create some imbalance. If we allow that we have to allow other keeper slots
To be traded as well and I think that creates a slippery slope. Feel
Free
To discuss.

[samifan24]

It turns out I didn't understand the offer. I thought the other guy was offering a player for the pick I'd receive if I didn't keep a rookie. He's since clarified that that's not the case. Just a miscommunication on my part.

[MollyMurphy]

I have traded Peterson to NTNDeacon for Matt Forte

[ntndeacon]

confirmed

[JAG]

FOFC All-Stars and Callous Dowboys announce the following trade:

Callous Dowboys receive:
2nd, 4th, 8th round picks

FOFC All-Stars receive:
Cordarrelle Patterson, Christine Michael, and a 6th pick

[Ragone]

Td mafia has a ton of running backs... Would
Love to upgrade my wr keeper..

[Julio Riddols]

Td mafia has a ton of running backs... Would
Love to upgrade my wr keeper..

Got any QBs?

I have Michael Floyd.. Or for a good QB I might be convinced to part with AJ Green.

[Julio Riddols]

Hooligans trade RB Alfred Morris

Sechs Punkte Sonntag trades Alshon Jeffery

Good deal, Chief!

[JAG]

I'll try and sort out the rosters in the morning.

[samifan24]

I'm looking for a QB and would prefer to deal with a team that cannot keep its QBs.

[Chief Rum]

Hooligans trade RB Alfred Morris

Sechs Punkte Sonntag trades Alshon Jeffery

Good deal, Chief!

Confirming. Thanks Julio and good luck!

[MollyMurphy]

I have traded Julio jones and my 4 th round pick to Ragone for his first roun pick and Andre Ellington.

[JAG]

Ok, rosters on page 1 are up-to-date after the trading on this page.

[Julio Riddols]

I have traded Julio jones and my 4 th round pick to Ragone for his first roun pick and Andre Ellington.

Dammit, nice get. I was trying to pry Ellington from him for Michael Floyd.

[MollyMurphy]

Dammit, nice get. I was trying to pry Ellington from him for Michael Floyd.

TY. I think it is a really good deal for both of us. Jones would never have lasted until 9 and he can't keep Ellington.

[Ragone]

Confirming deal with Molly..

[claphamsa]

im claphamsa on gmail... no access to this at work! email me there:)

[ntndeacon]

I have traded Reggie Bush to Unstopable for Jordan Reed.

[claphamsa]

hyar

[claphamsa]

i mean yes

[samifan24]

Josh Gordon anyone? He could be a real wild card but perhaps worth the gamble.

[Ragone]

Peyton manning on the block.. I'd want a top 10 qb+early pick In return.

[samifan24]

I'm looking to move Frank Gore, Josh Gordon, Jordan Cameron and Ladarius Green. Make me an offer!

[JAG]

Callous Dowboys Keepers

QB Jay Cutler
RB Doug Martin
WR DeMaryius Thomas
Rookie RB Giovani Bernard

Please also set your keepers on Fleaflicker (Go to Team-Settings-Set My Keepers)

[MollyMurphy]

Mollymurphy trades Matt Stafford and the 5th overall pick to Ragone for Peyton Manning

[MollyMurphy]

Molly Murphy keepers

- P. Manning
-Matt Forte
- Dez Bryant
- Andre Ellington

[Lathum]

as a reminder to everyone, trades made here need to be made on fleaflicker also.

[claphamsa]

unstopable keepers
Andrew luck
Jason Whitten
Reggie Bush
Tavon Austin

[Julio Riddols]

Final keepers for sechs punkte sonntag

QB Dalton
RB Morris
WR Green
TE/Rookie Eifert

[Ragone]

Td Mafia Keepers
Qb:Matt Stafford
Rb:Marshawn Lynch
Wr:Julio Jones
Rookie:Eddie Lacy

[ntndeacon]

Klein Bottle keepers:
QB: Wilson, Russel
RB:Peterson, Adrian
WR/TE: Graham, Jimmy
Rookie: Reed, Jordan

[Chief Rum]

Hammersmith Hooligans keepers

QB Nick Foles
RB Jamaal Charles
WR Alshon Jeffrey
Rookie WR Keenan Allen

[samifan24]

FOFC All-Stars Keepers

QB: Colin Kaepernick
RB: Christine Michael
WR: Randall Cobb
Rookie: WR Cordarrelle Patterson

[Lathum]

Lathums Brew Crew keepers-

QB- Rodgers
RB- LeVeon Bell
WR- Megatron
Rookie- Terrance Williams

[cmgdodgers]

Prestige Keepers

QB - RGIII
RB - Ball
WR - Marshall
RK - Stacey

[Lathum]

Waiting on keepers from 2 teams. Saldana told me he is going to post his in the AM when he gets to work.

Sending a PM to Vince

[saldana]

hey all,

keepers for Sal's TGs

qb-newton
rb-matthews
wr-white

[Vince, Pt. II]

Roadkill Cafe Keepers:
QB - Tony Romo
RB - DeMarco Murray
WR - Antonio Brown
Rookie - WR Kenny Stills

Actually had a hard time choosing between Stills and Woods.

[Lathum]

OK. That makes everyones keepers set.

Don't forget to mark them in fleflicker if you havent already.

Once we get keepers set we'll start the draft room and we can begin drafting without a clock.

In years past we have been able to be lax with enforcing the clock, but please be aware if you have a pick coming up.

[Julio Riddols]

How do I set my keepers?

[Julio Riddols]

Nevermind, found it.

[claphamsa]

i cant figure out how to set mine... but it also looks like i have a comanager (prestige collection).... or maybe im missing somehitng

[Vince, Pt. II]

Mine was under Settings.

[Lathum]

OK!!

Draft room is open and you are free to draft. Officially the draft doesn't begin until Wednesday at 9:00 but we can start whenever JAG is ready!

[claphamsa]

its fascinating seeing whats available... and whats not.

[claphamsa]

and i shoulda done my keepers different!

[Lathum]

Shocked McCoy went first, shocked I tell you!

[saldana]

ntn is up

[Julio Riddols]

McCoy is a wasted pick.. WASTED

[Lathum]

With the 2nd pick in round 1, Sal's Transgenders selected Chris Johnson RB NYJ

I find picking Jets offensive players is a solid long term strategy in winning fantasy football

;)

[saldana]

I find picking Jets offensive players is a solid long term strategy in winning fantasy football

;)
do i need to go find the picture of you sporting jets swag from last summer to remind you of your love for them

[Lathum]

as a reminder try to PM the person who picks after you

[Vince, Pt. II]

My phone doesn't seem to want to do anything with the flea flicker site - if I post my pick here, can someone make it for me over there?

[Lathum]

My phone doesn't seem to want to do anything with the flea flicker site - if I post my pick here, can someone make it for me over there?

yes.

[samifan24]

Because of Sproles? I think there's room enough for both in that offense.

[Lathum]

Because of Sproles? I think there's room enough for both in that offense.

sarcasm...

[JAG]

McCoy is my favorite FF player this year. That probably means he'll tear his ACL.

[Ragone]

Just couldn't resist gronks upside..

[Lathum]

A bit of a reach for me with Sankey, but being a UW alum and the potential to keep him as my rookie was too much to pass up. If I had a second round pick I would have risked it, but I doubt he is there when it comes back to me.

[Julio Riddols]

Went with Brees. Was tempted to go with a million other guys.

[Ragone]

Was super tempted to take brees and try to trade him..

[Lathum]

Hard to go wrong with Brees. I was sure NTNDeacon was going to take him. If I didnt have Rodgers I would have grabbed him.

I rally struggled do I take Saney or Jordy Nelson. The Nelson- Rodgers hook up all year would have been sweet, but FF is fun and I will take a lot of pleasure in watching one of my all time favorite college players.

[Ragone]

Nelson was in my thought process as well.. However
He's already having hamstring issues in camp.. That worries me

[Lathum]

Going to stall out a bit, Molly is in meetings all day and wont be able to pick until later tonight

[Vince, Pt. II]

Who should I message a list to? I'm on deck, right?

[Julio Riddols]

Nelson was in my thought process as well.. However
He's already having hamstring issues in camp.. That worries me

This is what stopped me.

[Lathum]

Who should I message a list to? I'm on deck, right?

you can send me anything. The other option is you can wait to pick until you get home. Don't feel like you need to rush. We do a slow draft so no one feels pressured. Part of the fun is making your own pick. If you would rather do that wait until you get to a desktop or laptop and do it then. No one will mind.

[Lathum]

we're moving again. Molly picks Welker for the very lethal Welker- Manning combo.

[samifan24]

I picked. Vince is up and PMed.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'll make my pick when I get home from softball tonight, probably an hour or two from now.

Tuesdays and Fridays should be the only problem days for me in the draft, and moving forward I'll try to get lists set up to expedite my slot. I have softball and band practice straight after work, so I'm usually running around like crazy at work before then being away from my computer most of the evening too.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Took Andre Johnson. With the bonus structure the way it is in the scoring, his mammoth game potential was too much to ignore, even with crap at the QB position this year.

PM'ing Chief Rum now.

[ntndeacon]

Lathum, I almost did pick Brees. That was the other one on my radar.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Having Chief and I at the back corner of the draft means we'll probably see a lot of JAG on the clock come morning time :)

I get the feeling that my squad is going to be very boom or bust this season.

[Lathum]

Ok. So at 9am we officially start. We are already into round 2 so I don't think well have to crack the whip on the clock.

[Lathum]

dola- new owners feel free to change your team names

[Lathum]

If Gronk stays healthy and Julio Jones comes back strong TD Mafia is looking like a monster.

[Ragone]

picked.. man that was a rough choice.. flip flopped between 4-5 different players

[Chief Rum]

I am someone who doesn't really rate RBs as high as most nowadays, but, man, they were coming off the board. Some 20 or so protected, with another five off the board in the first seven picks. I felt like I had to go with a RB with one of my picks, so I wouldn't get another shot for 24 picks.

I sure hope Jennings proves to be the steady option at RB that I think he can be for the Giants.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I hear you Chief. I felt like all of the guys available where you and I were weren't strong picks there, but that they'd all likely be gone before it got back to us. There were four or five of them I couldn't decide between, and you helped narrow my choice for me :)

[Chief Rum]

I hear you Chief. I felt like all of the guys available where you and I were weren't strong picks there, but that they'd all likely be gone before it got back to us. There were four or five of them I couldn't decide between, and you helped narrow my choice for me :)

Spiller is interesting. I felt I needed someone who stays healthy and seems to have a pretty clear role, or I might have picked Spiller. He gets hurt too often for my taste, though, and I feel like Bryce Brown was brought in to push him and maybe over take him. We'll see.

[Julio Riddols]

Michael Floyd, show me why I am high on you this year.

[Lathum]

Michael Floyd, show me why I am high on you this year.

I love the pick. Seemed like he and Palmer really clicked the second half last year.

I was hoping he would slide down to my next pick.

[Ragone]

I was considering Floyd during my pick as well.. didn't figure he'd make it back

[Ragone]

Wr Run!

[saldana]

on to JAG

[Lathum]

Boom or Bust pic by Sal selecting Hakeem Nicks.

[saldana]

back around to NTN

[saldana]

Boom or Bust pic by Sal selecting Hakeem Nicks.

he is gonna be the new reggie wayne in Indy! i might need you to send me your jersey for the game in November.

[Julio Riddols]

Y'all are sleeping on Reggie Wayne? Well, I believe in him.

[JAG]

Thought about taking Harvin earlier in the 3rd. Boom / bust pick, but if he's healthy, I think he's in for a big year.

[Ragone]

Can't believe Torrey Smith came back around to me... Gotta start loading up depth now..

[Ragone]

Nice choice Chief.. was trying to slide him back around in the next round

[Vince, Pt. II]

My turn to reach. Chief's up again.

[Julio Riddols]

Went with T. Rich.. Heaven help me.

[Lathum]

I almost protected Ridley, thrilled to get him so late in the draft

[Vince, Pt. II]

Went with T. Rich.. Heaven help me.

I tried twice...and couldn't do it. I think he could be pretty good this year...but he has at least even odds of being completely useless.

[Julio Riddols]

I tried twice...and couldn't do it. I think he could be pretty good this year...but he has at least even odds of being completely useless.

Yep. Luckily for me, he isn't my main RB. If he pans out, I expect to have a great season.

[Chief Rum]

Nice choice Chief.. was trying to slide him back around in the next round

I was actually really torn. I love Cooks' upside but rookie receivers are really hit and miss that first year. A safer choice would have been Sanders or Edelman. Time will tell if I made the right choice.

[Chief Rum]

I know we're doing okay on time, so I guess it doesn't matter much, but really, sal again? Lol... setting a record for delaying a draft two days in a row.

[Lathum]

I know we're doing okay on time, so I guess it doesn't matter much, but really, sal again? Lol... setting a record for delaying a draft two days in a row.

I usualy text him but have been really busy to even notice. If he hasnt checked in soon I'll shoot him a text

[Chief Rum]

You hear back from sal? Is he in trouble or something?

[Julio Riddols]

SAL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[saldana]

hey guys, really sorry to hold everything up...i have been no where near a computer for the past day and a half, and my phone and flea flicker dont seemingly get along...

jag is up

[claphamsa]

poor saldana! dont let them pressure you.... especially if you pick a defense!

[saldana]

poor saldana! dont let them pressure you.... especially if you pick a defense!

i did pick a defense!

[saldana]

You hear back from sal? Is he in trouble or something?

i did have a lot of trouble with getting out of the rough yesterday, shot a horrible round, but today's game went much better, shot right around my average...thanks for being concerned;) :) :lol:

[claphamsa]

i did pick a defense!

i know! about 8 roudns too soon:)

[Julio Riddols]

I wasn't yelling out of anger.. I was yelling out of concern. The Wilhelm scream version of ARE YOU OK?!?!

Glad to know you were apparently golfing and not getting kidnapped.

[claphamsa]

sucks that we cant do draft lists...

[Vince, Pt. II]

sucks that we cant do draft lists...

This.

[Lathum]

sucks that we cant do draft lists...

why is that?

We go at a pace where we make surethere is plenty of time to complete the draft.

[claphamsa]

why is that?

We go at a pace where we make surethere is plenty of time to complete the draft.

still its blocked at work for me.... I would rather do a list (even if its only 3-4 long)

[Lathum]

still its blocked at work for me.... I would rather do a list (even if its only 3-4 long)

you can send me one if you like, I can commish draft

[samifan24]

I've got two picks coming up and I'll be around to make both of them.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I love being in a position to be able to take players from the 49ers and not have to justify the selection.

[samifan24]

I know that we're all busy but if you are picking soon and know you won't be around please leave a list. It keeps things moving.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Sorry guys, just completely slipped my mind. Pick made, samifan is up.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I was wondering when Decker was going to finally go. Glad to see that everyone else thinks he's a product of the system as well.

[Chief Rum]

Am I wrong in pointing out we're stuck on sal again?

[claphamsa]

I was wondering when Decker was going to finally go. Glad to see that everyone else thinks he's a product of the system as well.

yeah but....he cant be as bad as where i picked him.

[claphamsa]

i mean... geno smith > payton manning right?

[claphamsa]

Am I wrong in pointing out we're stuck on sal again?

we have 3 weeks, its not really stuck is it?

[Lathum]

Am I wrong in pointing out we're stuck on sal again?

It's only been a couple of hours.

[Chief Rum]

we have 3 weeks, its not really stuck is it?

Sorry, just get tired of waiting on people who could easily send in a list if they're not going to be around. sal gets the benefit of the doubt if he has been prompt before, but instead he has kept us waiting some 30 hours on his own since the draft started.

[claphamsa]

this is why yahoo is better... you can send a list. stupid fleaflicker doesnt allow it!

[Julio Riddols]

But where else can you flick fleas?

[samifan24]

I agree with Chief Rum. Send a list to the Commish if you know you won't be around.

[saldana]

Sorry, just get tired of waiting on people who could easily send in a list if they're not going to be around. sal gets the benefit of the doubt if he has been prompt before, but instead he has kept us waiting some 30 hours on his own since the draft started.

are you f'n serious...its a slow draft for a reason...i was on the clock for 3 hours...god for f'n bid i dont pick within 10 seconds of it becoming my turn...sorry if i dont sit in front of the screen all day waiting for flea flicker to update.

kiss my ass chief

[Lathum]

OK, lets all settle down.

Sal will promise to try and check in a bit more often, everyone else try and realize we have plenty of time to complete the draft.

Lets not turn this into werewolf.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Vote Lathum

[Lathum]

what did I do!

[Vince, Pt. II]

On a big job at work, I'll have my pick in when we finish. Within the hour.

[Lathum]

I am so F'n cursed in this league.

Last year I draft Ridley and he ends up in BB dog house. This year I trade for Leveon Bell and draft Blount for protection and they get busted for pot. How fucking stupid are you to get busted smoking weed during training camp. Amazing

[Chief Rum]

I am so F'n cursed in this league.

Last year I draft Ridley and he ends up in BB dog house. This year I trade for Leveon Bell and draft Blount for protection and they get busted for pot. How fucking stupid are you to get busted smoking weed during training camp. Amazing

I wouldn't sweat it. If the Gordon suspension appeal is any indication, the NFL won't get around to Bell until 2016.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Ugh. Can't believe I just did that.

[JAG]

I like the odds of the Sky Dog division besting the Hornsmaniac division in interleague play. I think Ragone has put together a beastly team, though Deacon and Chief have good squads too.

[Lathum]

I think Molly has a monster team. If Peyton can even come close to his success last year. She also has Forte who has another year in the Tressman systen, Dez Bryant, and Ellington who may continue to get better. Throw in Welker and the big play ability of Jackson, plus Ebron who will see a lot of balls in that offense and she has the making of a monster.

I think Sal can be a real sleeper. Tons of question marks but if White, CJ2K, and Nicks all return to form he can have some monster weeks.

Julio also looks good if Wayne returns healthy and Morris returns to form.

[Chief Rum]

I like the odds of the Sky Dog division besting the Hornsmaniac division in interleague play. I think Ragone has put together a beastly team, though Deacon and Chief have good squads too.

I'm rolling the dice abit on some younger players making an impact, and that is always iffy.

I have an odd feeling about my team in Fleaflicker. I am "technically" the defending champ-- but I was something like 6th last year, at least in the regular season and I snuck in. I hit a good streak and ended up winning.

So I have a lot of doubt about my team, even though I suppose I am supposed to be pretty good.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I look at the rosters and I'm floored that my team was 2nd last year. I like what I've done in the draft, but I feel like I had absolute shit for keepers to work with.

[Lathum]

I look at the rosters and I'm floored that my team was 2nd last year. I like what I've done in the draft, but I feel like I had absolute shit for keepers to work with.

Every team for the most part is pretty close so the matchups really matter.

Look at last year for example.

MM scored the 3rd highes point total and went 5-8. JAG had the second and went 7-6. Your team won the division last year, but had the leagues 7th highest point total.

Then look at points against. You team had the second fewest points against average, 16 points per week lower then my opponents, so you basically got really lucky with your matchups.

You can have a whole season of just running into teams best week of the year every week.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Oh, I know how that goes...just amazing for it to work out all season like that. Regression was bound to happen at some point...until it didn't :)

[samifan24]

It seems we've stalled out again--and so close to the end!

[JAG]

Just noticed ntndeacon manged to get Peterson and Rice on his team.

[Vince, Pt. II]

One of these days I'm going to play Martellus Bennett.

[ntndeacon]

Just noticed ntndeacon manged to get Peterson and Rice on his team.

and I traded for one of them!

[JAG]

Classic week for Lathum. Scores second-most points this week...and loses. He's also had more points scored against him than any other team in the league (100+ points over the next highest team).

[Lathum]

Classic week for Lathum. Scores second-most points this week...and loses. He's also had more points scored against him than any other team in the league (100+ points over the next highest team).

seems to happen every year

[Lathum]

yup

2-4 despite scoring the 3rd most points in the league. I have 125 more points scored against me than the next colsest team. Thats sick.

[Lathum]

dola- tht is doing it without Megatron for most of the year also

[Lathum]

So Russell Wilson became the first QB to throw for 300 and rush for 100 in a game. Guess who played against him?

[Lathum]

So gross that I have Megatron, Rodgers, TY Hilton, L Bell, and Maclin and am currently not in the playoffs.

[Lathum]

yep

Second most points scored and out of the playoffs. Good luck to all the playoff teams. Has been a fun season, thanks for everyone being active.

[Chief Rum]

yep

Second most points scored and out of the playoffs. Good luck to all the playoff teams. Has been a fun season, thanks for everyone being active.

Yeah, I saw that. And it ended up coming down to you and your wife. But, hey, at least Molly got in!

[Ragone]

Good season guys... I'll be back in the Fall to defend

[Vince, Pt. II]

Such a disappointing end to the season. Well done Ragone.

[samifan24]

Is this league back for 2015?

[JAG]

I'm out unfortunately, been a good run but I'm not playing FF this year. Lathum I don't think comes here anymore, so if someone else wants to run it, let me know and I can pass the commish to you.

[Chief Rum]

That would be a bummer if this goes by the wayside, but I have enough leagues going this year, that I don't really need to add to them.

All that said, if this league started up, I would probably join back up.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'm in the same boat as Chief - I'd be in if it starts up, but I've got enough leagues that I'm not really dying to get into another.

[Julio Riddols]

Let it die, let it die, let it shrivel up and... I echo the sentiments of those before me.