2014 FOFC Alternate Rules Fantasy Football; Draft Complete, Set Your Lineups!

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08/31/14

The draft completed earlier today, so don't forget to head over to Yahoo, check to make sure I didn't mess up getting the right guys on your team, then set your rosters as the season begins on Thursday.

Good luck everyone!

08/25/14

As we head into the homestretch, a reminder that you must have 2 D/ST and 2 K drafted at the end of the draft.

08/22/14

After a bit of a slow start, much progress was made this week...we have gotten through over half of the draft by today at 4:30 Eastern. Reminder that the clock will not be active over the weekend, but please do drop in and check your e-mails for PMs and make picks when you can just so we can finish up earlier than Friday of next week as I'm sure many of us will be traveling and/or entertaining next weekend.

Clock will resume at 10 AM Eastern time Monday morning.

Thanks!

08/17/14

Draft is underway, agreed on 12 hour draft time limit, 10 AM / 10 PM Eastern, 7 AM / 7 PM Pacific... and if you're not in one of those time zones, then that's what we like to call "flyover country".

08/14/14

Draft order is up! Soft draft begins this weekend, timed draft begins Monday at 8 AM eastern.


08/05/14

Looks like once timmae jumps on board we'll be back to 10 players. Will probably have the draft order up later this week.


07/31/14

We are accepting new members, as 2 previous members have dropped out due to time considerations.

07/30/14

Right now, we are accepting sign-ups from our old members and wait-list submissions. Typically we have 2-3 people not return, but please sign up if you would like to join.

If you would like to join for the upcoming season, details are below in Post #4.

Old members that are returning, please post that you are back in, and ALSO post a number between 1 and 10 that will be used to randomly assign our draft order.

Last year's members not returning:
Danny
Dannyswife


League members
(Team name - User name - Draft no. - In Yahoo!)
Chief's Savages - Chief Rum - 9 - yes
Eleven Masked Men - Masked - 6 - yes
Last and Yes Least - Comey - 3 - yes
Royal Apes - TRO - 5 - yes
Tasty Punts Too - Julio Riddols - 8 - yes
Housewives on Acid - Subby - 7 - yes
Regina Monologues - britrock88 - 10 - yes
Dayton Dynamo - Butter_of_69 - 4 - yes
Tiny Nymphos - path12 - 1 - yes
Tim's Team - timmae - 2 - yes


Draft order
1. Subby
2. Julio Riddols
3. path12
4. Masked
5. Comey
6. Butter_of_69
7. Chief Rum
8. TRO
9. timmae
10. britrock88

This is a snake draft, so order reverses every round.

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Introduction

The idea behind the FOFC Alternate Rules Football league is simple. We play with 2 QBs, playing PPR, and try to balance out all 3 of the major positions while still making the other 3 differentiated and yet valuable. In short, you need a good, balanced team across the board.

This league was started for a couple of reasons, most of which involve things I dislike about standard fantasy football leagues.

1) I absolutely hate the RB scrum that has stupidly started every fantasy football league since the dawn of time. RBs are one of the least valuable positions on the field

2) QBs are over pointed but over supplied. Most league starts 1 QB so in a 10 team league, the 11th most valuable QB is around equal to the 21st most valuable RB. So what you're telling me is that Eli Manning slots around Daniel Thomas, Jahvid Best, Ryan Matthews and Knowshon Moreno this year (I just left in this humorous cut and paste from 2011 considering the names involved)? In standard systems, he's worth at least 100 more points but won't be picked until much after them because of positional scarcity.

3) And to those who complain 2 QBs is not realistic, fantasy football is not about "realism". Where in the world are you going to see Maurice Jones-Drew and Chris Johnson lining up in the backfield on any play? That QB might actually *die* on the field, but that fantasy lineup would rack up a lot of fantasy points. The only time fantasy lineups could be even considered remotely realistic were the couple of years that Mike Alstott was accidentally worth something as an honest-to-goodness fullback. So, please, don't tell me that your 1 QB, 2 RB league is more realistic than this 2 QB, 2 RB league unless you're drafting fullbacks.

4) Points seemed to be based on arbitrary measurements: "Hey, a TD is worth 6 so let's make it worth 6 fantasy points". Never mind that a good QB will get in the 30s while an elite RB might get half that. So, points are balanced across the board to try and give equal weight to every skill position: QBs, workhorse RBs, receiving RBs, deep thread WRs, possession WRs, etc.

So, in short, the idea is not to game the system but to pick the players that best exceed expectations. In short- are you better at predicting players than everyone else. Is it perfect? No. But I do believe it's better than what's out there.

Alternate Rules Football History

In the first season (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=41688), 2005, the Rafini Express steamrolled the rest of the league; led by Tomlinson, Palmer, Hasselbeck, and a solid receiving corps.

In 2006 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51190), Eleven Masked Men won the regular season while 5 teams were at either 9-5 or 8-6 but only three made the playoffs. The #4 and #3 seeds won in the playoffs with the balanced Marino Gets a Title winning over the LT-led Houston Hippopotami.

For 2007 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=60329), there were 3 10-4 powers going into the playoffs with the Little Macs, Hawaii Haka, and Houston Hippopotami but it was the #4 seed Louisiana Cyclones who won the title after squeaking into the playoffs at 8-6.

In 2008, the league went on hiatus as I was moving cross country from Kansas City to Richmond. Guess what I'm looking to do yet again this year. *sigh*

2009 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=73999) brought back the league in all its former glory with a slow, live draft and some slight scoring tweaks (I think). k0ruptr's Hawaii Ha'a dominated the regular season at 11-3 with the most points scored and won in the playoffs with a balanced team led by Adrian Peterson. Qwikshot's Quivers were the only other double digit win team but they lost in the first round of the playoffs.

2010 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=79059) featured a quick, live draft as I ran out of time, having just moved to Indianapolis. Danny's Road Kill Cafe finished with the best record in the league, led by Peyton Manning and 2 RBs and 3 WRs with over 1000 yards and 6 TDs (McCoy, McFadden, Bowe, CJohnson, SMoss). He defeated #2 seed Royal Apes, led by the two headed QB monster of Vick and Rogers and RBs Jamaal Charles and Steven Jackson.

2011 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=82106) returned to the standard draft albeit a sped up 2 hour format that we'll use again this year. The 4 teams that made the playoffs were the only teams with winning records. SterlingIce's Indianapolis Iguanii knocked off Julio Riddols's Tasty Punts by 0.08 in one of the semifinals. But TRO's Royal Apes prevailed in the finals, led by a combination of known commodities (Rodgers, Gore, Gates) and big surprises (Newton, Gronkowski, Matthews).

2012 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=84722) also used the boards draft, with the same format as 2011. This league showcased 3 teams finishing the regular season at 10-4, and another 2 at 8-6. The playoffs found Subby's Housewives on Acid winning both legs of the Championship playoff rounds fairly handily, taking down the championship in his first year in the league.

2013 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=87408) was 3 years in a row with the slow, boards draft. This year found regular season 3rd and 4th place teams Psycho Bunnies (DannysWife) and Chief's Savages (CR) fighting it out in the title game, with Psycho Bunnies winning the final game by 8 points.

Rules

I'll try to outline the major points below but any writeup will be somewhat incomplete. I've been trying to make sure and balance out the three main positions. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than what's out there, in my opinion:

* First thing you'll notice is 2 QBs- your 2nd and even 3rd QB does matter, just as much as your 2nd and 3rd RBs. No more mad scramble solely for RBs.

* There are 3 WRs and they are worth 8/1 versus 10/1 for RBs and 30/1 for QBs

* TE's are a bit better than in the past, but I would still love to be able to hit them with a 1.5 * mulitiplier across the board. As that's not possible, they fall in positional value. PPR helps them, tho. As I can't, that 2nd TE has become a TE/(4th)WR slot this season.

* There are kindof 2 tiers of players: QBs/RBs/WRs and Ks/DEFs/TEs. The first are worth more as they are believed to be more important. However, those second tiers are still worth about 2/3rds what the first group does, and good ones can offset a bad week by a top tier player.

* There's a lot of emphasis on positional scarcity- 2 of pretty much everything in a 10 team league means 20 QBs, 20 RBs, 20 Ks, and 20 DEFs will be starting each and every week which only leaves 10 in the pool at max. You only get 5 bench spaces so use them well- no hoarding that 4th K or even 3rd K if it means dropping that injured RB who's about to come back or that backup for your stud who you have as a 4th RB.

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Scoring & Settings

I haven't reviewed the scoring and settings just yet, but here are last year's below. I imagine this year will be much the same with maybe a few tweaks here and there.

<table class="data" id="settings-table"> <thead> <tr> <th class="first">Setting</th> <th>Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_34"> <tr> <td>League ID#:</td> <td>387044</td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">League Name:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">FOFC Alternate Rules</td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Password:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">dola</td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Custom League URL:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">Sign in to Yahoo! (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/fofcalternatefootball2009)</td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Offline Draft </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">10</td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Scoring Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Head-to-Head </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Start Scoring on:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 1 </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Can't Cut List Provider:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yahoo! Sports </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Acquisitions for Entire Season:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Acquisitions per Week:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Trades for Entire Season</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Reject Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 1 </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade End Date:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> November 14, 2014 </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Allow Draft Pick Trades:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Review:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> League Votes </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 days </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Continual rolling list </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Weekly Waivers</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Sunday - Tuesday </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Post Draft Players:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Follow Waiver Rules </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Invite Sharing Tools:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Disabled </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoffs:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoff Reseeding:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Divisions:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Lock Eliminated Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_42" class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Roster Positions:</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_41" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, W/R/T, K, K, DEF, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_39" class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Fractional Points:</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_38" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_37" class="row2"> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_36" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Negative Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yes </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_33" class="row1"> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_32" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Make League Publicly Viewable:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

<table class="data" id="settings-stat-mod-table"><thead> <tr> <th class="first">Offense</th> <th>League Value</th> <th>Yahoo! Default Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_24"> <tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Passing Yards</td> <td>30 yards per point; 5 points at 300 yards</td> <td>25 yards per point</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Passing Touchdowns</td> <td>5</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Interceptions</td> <td>-1</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Rushing Yards</td> <td>10 yards per point; 5 points at 100 yards</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_23" class="row2"> <td class="first">Rushing Touchdowns</td> <td>6</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_22">
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_27" class="row1"> <td class="first">Receptions</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_28">1</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_26">0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_30" class="row2"> <td class="first">Reception Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_29">8 yards per point; 5 points at 100 yards</td> <td>10 yards per point</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Reception Touchdowns</td> <td>6</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">2-Point Conversions</td> <td>2</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Fumbles</td> <td>-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_91" class="row2"> <td class="first">Fumbles Lost</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_90">-1</td> <td>-2</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_89" class="row1"> <td class="first">Offensive Fumble Return TD</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_88">6</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody> <thead id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_87"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_86"> <th class="first">Kickers</th> <th id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_85">League Value</th> <th>Yahoo! Default Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_66"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_84" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals 0-19 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_83">3</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_82" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals 20-29 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_81">4</td> <td>3</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_80" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals 30-39 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_79">5</td> <td>3</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_78" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals 40-49 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_77">6</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_76" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals 50+ Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_75">7</td> <td>5</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_74" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_73">-2</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_72" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_71">-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_70" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_69">-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_68" class="row2"> <td class="first">Point After Attempt Made</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_67">1</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_65" class="row1"> <td class="first">Point After Attempt Missed</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_64">-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr> </tbody> <thead id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_63"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_62"> <th class="first">Defense/Special Teams</th> <th id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_61">League Value</th> <th>Yahoo! Default Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_46"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_60" class="row2"> <td class="first">Sack</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_59">1</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Interception</td> <td>1</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_58" class="row2"> <td class="first">Fumble Recovery</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_57">1</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_56" class="row1"> <td class="first">Touchdown</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_55">5</td> <td>6</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_54" class="row2"> <td class="first">Safety</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_53">2</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_52" class="row1"> <td class="first">Block Kick</td> <td>2</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_51">
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_50" class="row2"> <td class="first">Return Yards</td> <td>50 yards per point</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_49">0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_48" class="row1"> <td class="first">Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns</td> <td>5</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_47">6</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 0 points</td> <td>20</td> <td>10</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 1-6 points</td> <td>15</td> <td>7</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 7-13 points</td> <td>10</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 14-20 points</td> <td>5</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 21-27 points</td> <td>0</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 28-34 points</td> <td>-2</td> <td>-1</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_45" class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 35+ points</td> <td>-5</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_44">-4</td></tr></tbody></table>

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Who Can Join
Preference goes towards members who were in the league last year. Now through noon of Friday, August 8th, they are the only ones who can join. Anyone else is put on the waiting list.

Signing Up
IF YOU ARE RETURNING, WHEN YOU SIGN UP, PUT A NUMBER NEXT TO YOUR NAME. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST. I will use a random number generator to determine the draft order. I will take the final number.

Draft Format

The draft will take place in this thread once the league has been set up. It is a snake draft. If nothing changes, we'll start drafting at 8 AM on the morning of August 18th, 2014.

The season starts Thursday, September 4th. That means we have about 3 weeks to do the slow, live draft. We're going to do what we did last year with 2 hours per pick between the hours of 8am ET and 10pm ET on weekdays. Hopefully we don't have to enforce this but we always have to a couple of times during the draft. If we are not making good progress by the 2nd week of the live draft, we'll shrink down the time window to 1 hour.

The evening rules are still the same. If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 9am) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until 10am). We have to keep this moving and we need everyone checking every night and every morning if it's near their turn.

If there are problems in that you know your pick is coming up but you won't be online, submit a list either to myself or to a proxy drafter for you. Otherwise, you will get the next player on Yahoo's list. Maybe pick someone who is on the opposite end of the draft from you so that you likely won't be grabbing from the same pool of players anyways.

If we are not done by Tuesday, September 2nd, we will have to schedule a quick, live draft to fill remaining roster spots. We haven't had to do this previously, so with your help we won't have to do it again. If we end up needing to, though, more details about the forum and time will be provided later on.

If you miss more than 2 picks in the draft (i.e. time limit expired so a Yahoo rankings pick), particularly in the first 10 rounds, then you can be replaced as manager.

IF YOU CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THIS SCHEDULE, DO NOT JOIN.

Rule Changes for 2014

Open for discussion. None being considered right now, although last year seemed very high scoring compared to previous years.

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Round 1
1. Calvin Johnson (DET - WR) - Housewives on Acid
2. Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) - Tasty Punts Too
3. LeSean McCoy (PHI - RB) - Tiny Nymphos
4. Peyton Manning (DEN - QB) - Eleven Masked Men
5. Adrian Peterson (MIN - RB) - Last and Yes Least
6. Matt Forte (CHI - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
7. Drew Brees (NO - QB) - Chief's Savages
8. Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) - Royal Apes
9. Brandon Marshall (CHI - WR) - Tim's Team
10. Demaryius Thomas (DEN - WR) - Regina Monologues

Round 2
11. Jimmy Graham (NO - TE) - Regina Monologues
12. Dez Bryant (DAL - WR) - Tim's Team
13. Julio Jones (ATL - WR) - Royal Apes
14. AJ Green (CIN - WR) - Chief's Savages
15. Giovani Bernard (CIN - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
16. Eddie Lacy (GB - RB) - Last and Yes Least
17. Marshawn Lynch (SEA - RB) - Eleven Masked Men
18. Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) - Tiny Nymphos
19. Andre Ellington (ARI - RB) - Tasty Punts Too
20. Doug Martin (TB - RB) - Housewives on Acid

Round 3
21. Arian Foster (HOU - RB) - Housewives on Acid
22. Cordarelle Patterson (MIN - WR) - Tasty Punts Too
23. Alshon Jeffery (CHI - WR) - Tiny Nymphos
24. Le'Veon Bell (PIT - RB) - Eleven Masked Men
25. Matthew Stafford (DET - QB) - Last and Yes Least
26. Antonio Brown (PIT - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
27. Andrew Luck (IND - QB) - Chief's Savages
28. DeMarco Murray (DAL - RB) - Royal Apes
29. Montee Ball (DEN - RB) - Tim's Team
30. Nick Foles (PHI - QB) - Regina Monologues

Round 4
31. Matt Ryan (ATL - QB) - Regina Monologues
32. Randall Cobb (GB - WR) - Tim's Team
33. Julius Thomas (DEN - TE) - Royal Apes
34. Vincent Jackson (TB - WR) - Chief's Savages
35. Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
36. Cam Newton (CAR - QB) - Last and Yes Least
37. Andre Johnson (HOU - WR) - Eleven Masked Men
38. Tom Brady (NE - QB) - Tiny Nymphos
39. Philip Rivers (SD - QB) - Tasty Punts Too
40. Reggie Bush (DET - RB) - Housewives on Acid

Round 5
41. Pierre Garcon (WAS - WR) - Housewives on Acid
42. Michael Floyd (ARI - WR) - Tasty Punts Too
43. Julian Edelman (NE - WR) - Tiny Nymphos
44. Tony Romo (DAL - QB) - Eleven Masked Men
45. Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE) - Last and Yes Least
46. Roddy White (ATL - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
47. DeSean Jackson (WAS - WR) - Chief's Savages
48. Robert Griffin III (WAS - QB) - Royal Apes
49. Michael Crabtree (SF - WR) - Tim's Team
50. Keenan Allen (SD - WR) - Regina Monologues

Round 6
51. Zac Stacy (STL - RB) - Regina Monologues
52. Russell Wilson (SEA - QB) - Tim's Team
53. Shane Vereen (NE - RB) - Royal Apes
54. Joique Bell (DET - RB) - Chief's Savages
55. Jay Cutler (CHI - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
56. Victor Cruz (NYG - WR) - Last and Yes Least
57. Wes Welker (DEN - WR) - Eleven Masked Men
58. Ray Rice (BAL - RB) - Tiny Nymphos
59. Jordan Cameron (CLE - TE) - Tasty Punts Too
60. Ben Tate (CLE - RB) - Housewives on Acid

Round 7
61. TY Hilton (IND - WR) - Housewives on Acid
62. Chris Johnson (NYJ - RB) - Tasty Punts Too
63. Ryan Mathews (SD - RB) - Tiny Nymphos
64. Vernon Davis (SF - TE) - Eleven Masked Men
65. Percy Harvin (SEA - WR) - Last and Yes Least
66. Andy Dalton (CIN - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
67. Jason Witten (DAL - TE) - Chief's Savages
68. Carolina (CAR - DST) - Royal Apes
69. Colin Kaepernick (SF - QB) - Tim's Team
70. Toby Gerhart (JAX - RB) - Regina Monologues

Round 8
71. Torrey Smith (BAL - WR) - Regina Monologues
72. CJ Spiller (BUF - RB) - Tim's Team
73. Seattle (SEA - DST) - Royal Apes
74. San Francisco (SF - DST) - Chief's Savages
75. Dennis Pitta (BAL - TE) - Dayton Dynamo
76. Kendall Wright (TEN - WR) - Last and Yes Least
77. Alfred Morris (WAS - RB) - Eleven Masked Men
78. Eli Manning (NYG - QB) - Tiny Nymphos
79. Carson Palmer (ARI - QB) - Tasty Punts Too
80. Ben Roethlisberger (PIT - QB) - Housewives on Acid

Round 9
81. Jeremy Maclin (PHI - WR) - Housewives on Acid
82. Brandin Cooks (NO - WR) - Tasty Punts Too
83. Ryan Tannehill (MIA - QB) - Tiny Nymphos
84. Marques Colston (NO - WR) - Eleven Masked Men
85. Reggie Wayne (IND - WR) - Last and Yes Least
86. Rashad Jennings (NYG - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
87. Bishop Sankey (TEN - RB) - Chief's Savages
88. Emmanuel Sanders (DEN - WR) - Royal Apes
89. Frank Gore (SF - RB) - Tim's Team
90. Cincinnati (CIN - DST) - Regina Monologues

Round 10
91. Mike Wallace (MIA - WR) - Regina Monologues
92. Golden Tate (DET - WR) - Tim's Team
93. Terrance Williams (DAL - WR) - Royal Apes
94. Fred Jackson (BUF - RB) - Chief's Savages
95. Arizona (ARI - DST) - Dayton Dynamo
96. Pierre Thomas (NO - RB) - Last and Yes Least
97. Greg Olsen (CAR - TE) - Eleven Masked Men
98. Brian Hartline (MIA - WR) - Tiny Nymphos
99. Mike Evans (TB - WR) - Tasty Punts Too
100. Darren Sproles (PHI - RB) - Housewives on Acid

Round 11
101. Trent Richardson (IND - RB) - Housewives on Acid
102. Maurice Jones-Drew (OAK - RB) - Tasty Punts Too
103. Zach Ertz (PHI - TE) - Tiny Nymphos
104. Eric Decker (NYJ - WR) - Eleven Masked Men
105. Josh Gordon (CLE - WR) - Last and Yes Least
106. Sammy Watkins (BUF - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
107. Kansas City (KC - DST) - Chief's Savages
108. Danny Woodhead (SD - RB) - Royal Apes
109. Alex Smith (KC - QB) - Tim's Team
110. Stevan Ridley (NE - RB) - Regina Monologues

Round 12
111. Jordan Reed (WAS - TE) - Regina Monologues
112. Martellus Bennett (CHI - TE) - Tim's Team
113. DeAndre Hopkins (HOU - WR) - Royal Apes
114. Kelvin Benjamin (CAR - WR) - Chief's Savages
115. Kyle Rudolph (MIN - TE) - Dayton Dynamo
116. Denver (DEN - DST) - Last and Yes Least
117. New England (NE - DST) - Eleven Masked Men
118. Mark Ingram (NO - RB) - Tiny Nymphos
119. Pittsburgh (PIT - DST) - Tasty Punts Too
120. Charles Clay (MIA - TE) - Housewives on Acid

Round 13
121. Ladarius Green (SD - TE) - Housewives on Acid
122. Miami (MIA - DST) - Tasty Punts Too
123. Antonio Gates (SD - TE) - Tiny Nymphos
124. New Orleans (NO - DST) - Eleven Masked Men
125. St. Louis (STL - DST) - Last and Yes Least
126. Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
127. Lamar Miller (MIA - RB) - Chief's Savages
128. Anquan Boldin (SF - WR) - Royal Apes
129. Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) - Tim's Team
130. Buffalo (BUF - DST) - Regina Monologues

Round 14
131. Steven Jackson (ATL - RB) - Regina Monologues
132. Justin Tucker (BAL - K) - Tim's Team
133. Knowshon Moreno (MIA - RB) - Royal Apes
134. Steven Hauschka (SEA - K) - Chief's Savages
135. Reuben Randle (NYG - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
136. Riley Cooper (PHI - WR) - Last and Yes Least
137. Mason Crosby (GB - K) - Eleven Masked Men
138. Indianapolis (IND - DST) - Tiny Nymphos
139. Tim Wright (NE - TE) - Tasty Punts Too
140. Josh McCown (TB - QB) - Housewives on Acid

Round 15
141. Jake Locker (TEN - QB) - Housewives on Acid
142. James White (NE - RB) - Tasty Punts Too
143. Carlos Hyde (SF - RB) - Tiny Nymphos
144. EJ Manuel (BUF - QB) - Eleven Masked Men
145. Matt Cassel (MIN - QB) - Last and Yes Least
146. Joe Flacco (BAL - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
147. Geno Smith (NYJ - QB) - Chief's Savages
148. Johnny Manziel (CLE - QB) - Royal Apes
149. Chad Henne (JAX - QB) - Tim's Team
150. Phil Dawson (SF - K) - Regina Monologues

Round 16
151. Adam Vinatieri (IND - K) - Regina Monologues
152. Green Bay (GB - DST) - Tim's Team
153. Shaun Hill (STL - QB) - Royal Apes
154. Justin Hunter (TEN - WR) - Chief's Savages
155. Jeremy Hill (CIN - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
156. Dan Bailey (DAL - K) - Last and Yes Least
157. Delanie Walker (TEN - TE) - Eleven Masked Men
158. Doug Baldwin (SEA - WR) - Tiny Nymphos
159. Blake Bortles (JAX - QB) - Tasty Punts Too
160. Blair Walsh (MIN - K) - Housewives on Acid

Round 17
161. Matt Bryant (ATL - K) - Housewives on Acid
162. Dan Carpenter (BUF - K) - Tasty Punts Too
163. Nick Novak (SD - K) - Tiny Nymphos
164. Shayne Graham (NO - K) - Eleven Masked Men
165. Greg Jennings (MIN - WR) - Last and Yes Least
166. Chandler Catanzaro (ARI - K) - Dayton Dynamo
167. Tyler Eifert (CIN - TE) - Chief's Savages
168. Robbie Gould (CHI - K) - Royal Apes
169. New York Jets (NYJ - DST) - Tim's Team
170. Chicago (CHI - DST) - Regina Monologues

Round 18
171. Danny Amendola (NE - WR) - Regina Monologues
172. Matt Schaub (OAK - QB) - Tim's Team
173. Nick Folk (NYJ - K) - Royal Apes
174. Shaun Suisham (PIT - K) - Chief's Savages
175. Philadelphia (PHI - DST) - Dayton Dynamo
176. Brandon McManus (DEN - K) - Last and Yes Least
177. DeAngelo Williams (CAR - RB) - Eleven Masked Men
178. Tampa Bay (TB - DST) - Tiny Nymphos
179. Allen Hurns (JAX - WR) - Tasty Punts Too
180. Washington (WAS - DST) - Housewives on Acid

Round 19
181. Dallas (DAL - DST) - Housewives on Acid
182. Mike Nugent (CIN - K) - Tasty Punts Too
183. Matt Prater (DEN - K) - Tiny Nymphos
184. Derek Dimke (NO - K) - Eleven Masked Men
185. Cecil Shorts (JAX - WR) - Last and Yes Least
186. Nate Freese (DET - K) - Dayton Dynamo
187. Jarrett Boykin (GB - WR) - Chief's Savages
188. Travis Kelce (KC - TE) - Royal Apes
189. Coby Fleener (IND - TE) - Tim's Team
190. Tavon Austin (SD - WR) - Regina Monologues

[Butter]

Housewives on Acid
1. (1) Calvin Johnson (DET - WR)
2. (20) Doug Martin (TB - RB)
3. (21) Arian Foster (HOU - RB)
4. (40) Reggie Bush (DET - RB)
5. (41) Pierre Garcon (WAS - WR)
6. (60) Ben Tate (CLE - RB)
7. (61) TY Hilton (IND - WR)
8. (80) Ben Roethlisberger (PIT - QB)
9. (81) Jeremy Maclin (PHI - WR)
10. (100) Darren Sproles (PHI - RB)
11. (101) Trent Richardson (IND - RB)
12. (120) Charles Clay (MIA - TE)
13. (121) Ladarius Green (SD - TE)
14. (140) Josh McCown (TB - QB)
15. (141) Jake Locker (TEN - QB)
16. (160) Blair Walsh (MIN - K)
17. (161) Matt Bryant (ATL - K)
18. (180) Washington (WAS - DST)
19. (181) Dallas (DAL - DST)

Tasty Punts Too
1. (2) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
2. (19) Andre Ellington (ARI - RB)
3. (22) Cordarelle Patterson (MIN - WR)
4. (39) Philip Rivers (SD - QB)
5. (42) Michael Floyd (ARI - WR)
6. (59) Jordan Cameron (CLE - TE)
7. (62) Chris Johnson (NYJ - RB)
8. (79) Carson Palmer (ARI - QB)
9. (82) Brandin Cooks (NO - WR)
10. (99) Mike Evans (TB - WR)
11. (102) Maurice Jones-Drew (OAK - RB)
12. (119) Pittsburgh (PIT - DST)
13. (122) Miami (MIA - DST)
14. (139) Tim Wright (NE - TE)
15. (142) James White (NE - RB)
16. (159) Blake Bortles (JAX - QB)
17. (162) Dan Carpenter (BUF - K)
18. (179) Allen Hurns (JAX - WR)
19. (182) Mike Nugent (CIN - K)

Tiny Nymphos
1. (3) LeSean McCoy (PHI - RB)
2. (18) Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
3. (23) Alshon Jeffery (CHI - WR)
4. (38) Tom Brady (NE - QB)
5. (43) Julian Edelman (NE - WR)
6. (58) Ray Rice (BAL - RB)
7. (63) Ryan Mathews (SD - RB)
8. (78) Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
9. (83) Ryan Tannehill (MIA - QB)
10. (98) Brian Hartline (MIA - WR)
11. (103) Zach Ertz (PHI - TE)
12. (118) Mark Ingram (NO - RB)
13. (123) Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
14. (138) Indianapolis (IND - DST)
15. (143) Carlos Hyde (SF - RB)
16. (158) Doug Baldwin (SEA - WR)
17. (163) Nick Novak (SD - K)
18. (178) Tampa Bay (TB - DST)
19. (183) Matt Prater (DEN - K)

Eleven Masked Men
1. (4) Peyton Manning (DEN - QB)
2. (17) Marshawn Lynch (SEA - RB)
3. (24) Le'Veon Bell (PIT - RB)
4. (37) Andre Johnson (HOU - WR)
5. (44) Tony Romo (DAL - QB)
6. (57) Wes Welker (DEN - WR)
7. (64) Vernon Davis (SF - TE)
8. (77) Alfred Morris (WAS - RB)
9. (84) Marques Colston (NO - WR)
10. (97) Greg Olsen (CAR - TE)
11. (104) Eric Decker (NYJ - WR)
12. (117) New England (NE - DST)
13. (124) New Orleans (NO - DST)
14. (137) Mason Crosby (GB - K)
15. (144) EJ Manuel (BUF - QB)
16. (157) Delanie Walker (TEN - TE)
17. (164) Shayne Graham (NO - K)
18. (177) DeAngelo Williams (CAR - RB)
19. (184) Derek Dimke (NO - K)

Last and Yes Least
1. (5) Adrian Peterson (MIN - RB)
2. (16) Eddie Lacy (GB - RB)
3. (25) Matthew Stafford (DET - QB)
4. (36) Cam Newton (CAR - QB)
5. (45) Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
6. (56) Victor Cruz (NYG - WR)
7. (65) Percy Harvin (SEA - WR)
8. (76) Kendall Wright (TEN - WR)
9. (85) Reggie Wayne (IND - WR)
10. (96) Pierre Thomas (NO - RB)
11. (105) Josh Gordon (CLE - WR)
12. (116) Denver (DEN - DST)
13. (125) St. Louis (STL - DST)
14. (136) Riley Cooper (PHI - WR)
15. (145) Matt Cassel (MIN - QB)
16. (156) Dan Bailey (DAL - K)
17. (165) Greg Jennings (MIN - WR)
18. (176) Brandon McManus (DEN - K)
19. (185) Cecil Shorts (JAX - WR)

Dayton Dynamo
1. (6) Matt Forte (CHI - RB)
2. (15) Giovani Bernard (CIN - RB)
3. (26) Antonio Brown (PIT - WR)
4. (35) Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR)
5. (46) Roddy White (ATL - WR)
6. (55) Jay Cutler (CHI - QB)
7. (66) Andy Dalton (CIN - QB)
8. (75) Dennis Pitta (BAL - TE)
9. (86) Rashad Jennings (NYG - RB)
10. (95) Arizona (ARI - DST)
11. (106) Sammy Watkins (BUF - WR)
12. (115) Kyle Rudolph (MIN - TE)
13. (126) Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR)
14. (135) Reuben Randle (NYG - WR)
15. (146) Joe Flacco (BAL - QB)
16. (155) Jeremy Hill (CIN - RB)
17. (166) Chandler Catanzaro (ARI - K)
18. (175) Philadelphia (PHI - DST)
19. (186) Nate Freese (DET - K)

Chief's Savages
1. (7) Drew Brees (NO - QB)
2. (14) AJ Green (CIN - WR)
3. (27) Andrew Luck (IND - QB)
4. (34) Vincent Jackson (TB - WR)
5. (47) DeSean Jackson (WAS - WR)
6. (54) Joique Bell (DET - RB)
7. (67) Jason Witten (DAL - TE)
8. (74) San Francisco (SF - DST)
9. (87) Bishop Sankey (TEN - RB)
10. (94) Fred Jackson (BUF - RB)
11. (107) Kansas City (KC - DST)
12. (114) Kelvin Benjamin (CAR - WR)
13. (127) Lamar Miller (MIA - RB)
14. (134) Steven Hauschka (SEA - K)
15. (147) Geno Smith (NYJ - QB)
16. (154) Justin Hunter (TEN - WR)
17. (167) Tyler Eifert (CIN - TE)
18. (174) Shaun Suisham (PIT - K)
19. (187) Jarrett Boykin (GB - WR)

Royal Apes
1. (8) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
2. (13) Julio Jones (ATL - WR)
3. (28) DeMarco Murray (DAL - RB)
4. (33) Julius Thomas (DEN - TE)
5. (48) Robert Griffin III (WAS - QB)
6. (53) Shane Vereen (NE - RB)
7. (68) Carolina (CAR - DST)
8. (73) Seattle (SEA - DST)
9. (88) Emmanuel Sanders (DEN - WR)
10. (93) Terrance Williams (DAL - WR)
11. (108) Danny Woodhead (SD - RB)
12. (113) DeAndre Hopkins (HOU - WR)
13. (128) Anquan Boldin (SF - WR)
14. (133) Knowshon Moreno (MIA - RB)
15. (148) Johnny Manziel (CLE - QB)
16. (153) Shaun Hill (STL - QB)
17. (168) Robbie Gould (CHI - K)
18. (173) Nick Folk (NYJ - K)
19. (188) Travis Kelce (KC - TE)

Tim's Team
1. (9) Brandon Marshall (CHI - WR)
2. (12) Dez Bryant (DAL - WR)
3. (29) Montee Ball (DEN - RB)
4. (32) Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
5. (49) Michael Crabtree (SF - WR)
6. (52) Russell Wilson (SEA - QB)
7. (69) Colin Kaepernick (SF - QB)
8. (72) CJ Spiller (BUF - RB)
9. (89) Frank Gore (SF - RB)
10. (92) Golden Tate (DET - WR)
11. (109) Alex Smith (KC - QB)
12. (112) Martellus Bennett (CHI - TE)
13. (129) Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
14. (132) Justin Tucker (BAL - K)
15. (149) Chad Henne (JAX - QB)
16. (152) Green Bay (GB - DST)
17. (169) New York Jets (NYJ - DST)
18. (172) Matt Schaub (OAK - QB)
19. (189) Coby Fleener (IND - TE)

Regina Monologues
1. (10) Demaryius Thomas (DEN - WR)
2. (11) Jimmy Graham (NO - TE)
3. (30) Nick Foles (PHI - QB)
4. (31) Matt Ryan (ATL - QB)
5. (50) Keenan Allen (SD - WR)
6. (51) Zac Stacy (STL - RB)
7. (70) Toby Gerhart (JAX - RB)
8. (71) Torrey Smith (BAL - WR)
9. (90) Cincinnati (CIN - DST)
10. (91) Mike Wallace (MIA - WR)
11. (110) Stevan Ridley (NE - RB)
12. (111) Jordan Reed (WAS - TE)
13. (130) Buffalo (BUF - DST)
14. (131) Steven Jackson (ATL - RB)
15. (150) Phil Dawson (SF - K)
16. (151) Adam Vinatieri (IND - K)
17. (170) Chicago (CHI - DST)
18. (171) Danny Amendola (NE - WR)
19. (190) Tavon Austin (SD - WR)

[Chief Rum]

First in! I will be returning.

9

[Danny]

Cant manage a slow draft anymore with my work schedule (start back next week), so both my wife and I will be out.

[path12]

I'll sign up for the waiting list.

[Masked]

I'm in - 6

[path12]

1

[Butter]

Post 1 update.

[Comey]

I'm in. 3.

[TRO]

Hopefully I pay more attention to this than I have the baseball league this year.

5

[Julio Riddols]

I'm in, 8.

[Butter]

Post 1 updated.

[Subby]

7

[timmae]

I'd be interested in grabbing a team if one is available.

[Butter]

Sure, you just need to give me a draft number from the ones remaining in Post #1, then PM me an e-mail address that I can send an invitation to.

[timmae]

I'd be interested in grabbing a team if one is available.

2

[britrock88]

I'll hop back in! But I'm not sure about the Y! logistics you mentioned up top.

[britrock88]

Scratch the uncertainty. Was able to accept the invite and renew without issue.

[britrock88]

And I'll take #10.

[Butter]

Looks like I get #4.

I will have the draft order up in another week or so. After that, we can begin a "soft draft", but the draft itself won't officially begin with time limits until Monday, August 18th. That should give us enough time to finish before the season starts (2 1/2 weeks)... Considering we will have 19 rounds to get through and 17 days between 8/18 and 9/4, we should be just fine.

[Butter]

Looks like everybody's all joined up and I jumped the gun a bit on starting the league... so I'll get that draft order up at some point and then we'll have a bit of a waiting game to play until the draft officially starts.

In the meantime, if anyone has any recommendations on minor rule tweaks, I'm certainly open. I know in the past, we have had 0.5 PPR instead of 1 PPR, and also have used fractional points in the past. We did have 1 tie last year, through which fractional points could've avoided the issue. But I was the victim of fractional points one year as I lost my playoff game on a stat correction mid-week where a guy lost like 2 yards on a reception or something, which gave me a less than 1 point loss instead of a less than 1 point win.

[path12]

I've never understood the argument against 1 PPR. But I was in a league for 20 years that had like 60 scoring categories and scores that would regularly hit the 150-200 range.

[Butter]

Well, looks like no rule changes, so....

Random Sequence Generator

Here is your sequence:

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8
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9
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10
Timestamp: 2014-08-15 15:18:50 UTC

That gives us a draft order of:

1. Subby
2. Julio Riddols
3. path12
4. Masked
5. Comey
6. Butter_of_69
7. Chief Rum
8. TRO
9. timmae
10. britrock88

Subby, you may begin the draft when you are ready. We had a couple of issues come up last year, so just so that we're clear here are a couple of ground rules:

1. PLEASE PM the next person in line in the draft once you have picked.

2. If you miss your 2 hour window (during the timed portion), you may come back at any point and make your pick, but you can't pick anyone who got picked in the interim.

3. Once your pick is posted, you can't come back and edit it for the guy you really wanted but forgot was available.

4. If you pick someone that was already taken, best efforts will be made to reach you, but the draft will go on at the next picker's discretion. Please monitor posts 5 and 6 carefully as I will update them very regularly with the latest draftees.

5. Any other questions, check out post 4 for more draft information.

Thanks, and good luck!

[Butter]

Subby has the right to wait until Monday at 8 AM Eastern to make his pick... so basically he has until 10 AM to pick. But if he starts earlier, then everyone should begin preparing for who they want.

[Subby]

Housewives

1.1 WR Calvin Johnson DET

[Chief Rum]

Is there an evening shut off time for the clock?

[Julio Riddols]

1.2 Jamaal Charles, RB, KC

[path12]

Nymphos

1.3 LeSean McCoy, RB, Philly

I almost feel guilty taking a RB first pick given the premise of the league.

[Masked]

1.4 Peyton Manning, QB, Den

Probably overreacting to some bad QB situations in prior years.

[timmae]

Let the fun begin!! Wait... it has... damn, where is my list (note to self to run to the newsstand to grab cliff notes on my way home).

[Butter]

Is there an evening shut off time for the clock?

Yes, 10 PM Eastern / 7 PM Pacific.

[timmae]

silly question for ya boss... do we need to do anything with Yahoo at this point?

[Butter]

No, I'll be entering the picks in as we move along, but as long as your team is entered there is nothing to do until the draft is over.

[Chief Rum]

Yes, 10 PM Eastern / 7 PM Pacific.

Thanks. I should have asked the corresponding question of course--what time does the clock start again in the morning?

[Butter]

8 AM Eastern / 5 AM Pacific

[path12]

Just for the record in case I'm first up at the beginning of a day -- I'm not likely to be around until 8AM Pacific.

[Chief Rum]

Just for the record in case I'm first up at the beginning of a day -- I'm not likely to be around until 8AM Pacific.

What he said. You might need to adjust that one for us West Coasters.

[Butter]

Did we agree last year to blanket change that to 9 AM Eastern / 6 AM Pacific? Maybe we did. That would give you until 8 AM Pacific at least.

[Chief Rum]

Did we agree last year to blanket change that to 9 AM Eastern / 6 AM Pacific? Maybe we did. That would give you until 8 AM Pacific at least.

The problem is that still may not be late enough. For instance, I don't even get up on weekdays until after six and most of that time is spent getting ready for work and then getting to work. By the time, I have settled in and have the computer on and could check in, it could be 8:30 and someone has already taken someone I was angling for. I would ask for 10/7. I doubt that will hold us up too much, since we'll probably be drafting ahead of the clock anyway.

[Comey]

1.5 Adrian Peterson, RB

[TRO]

I've always been a proponent of 10est start time on clock.

[Butter]

1.6 Matt Forte, CHI, RB

[Butter]

Agreed on 10-10 (ET) or 7-7 (PT) time limit based on where you live... 12 hours a day should be enough.

[Chief Rum]

1.7 QB Drew Brees, NO

[TRO]

Royal Apes 1.8 QB Aaron Rodgers GB

[timmae]

1.9 Tim's Team - WR Brandon Marshall

[britrock88]

Sorry that I'm starting my research right now, but I am on top of this and should have 2 picks for ya before too long.

[timmae]

no worries... with back to back picks you have all morning to make them!

[britrock88]

1.10 - WR Demaryius Thomas, DEN
2.1 - TE Jimmy Graham, NO

[timmae]

2.2 - WR Dez Bryant, DAL

[Butter]

TRO is up, but his time has expired. That means that Chief Rum could theoretically come in and pick whenever.

[Chief Rum]

TRO is up, but his time has expired. That means that Chief Rum could theoretically come in and pick whenever.

I will give him a little time, since I am heading to lunch. But I will look at my choices at lunch, and if he hasn't picked about halfway through, I will probably make my sleection.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, picking...

2.4 WR AJ Green, CIN

[Butter]

2.5 - RB Giovani Bernard, CIN

[TRO]

Sorry, got caught up in things this morning. I'll make my pick in a couple of minutes.

[Butter]

I've PM'd Comey and TRO, TRO is eligible to take anyone available at any time with his 2nd round pick.

[TRO]

2.3 - WR Julio Jones ATL

[Comey]

2.6 Eddie Lacy, RB, GB

[Masked]

2.7 Marshawn Lynch, RB, SEA

[path12]

2.8 Jordy Nelson, WR, GB

[Julio Riddols]

Picking shortly..

2.9 RB Andre Ellington, ARI

[britrock88]

Man. I was really looking forward to making another pair of picks right here. I'm a moron sometimes. :)

[Julio Riddols]

Man. I was really looking forward to making another pair of picks right here. I'm a moron sometimes. :)

Good thing, because you made some good picks with your first 2. I was all set to pull the trigger on Thomas only to see that you had already taken him.

[Subby]

Housewives pick...

2.10 RB Doug Martin, TB
3.1 RB Arian Foster, HOU

[Julio Riddols]

3.2 Cordarelle Patterson, WR, MIN

Probably a little early, but I didn't think he would make it to the bottom of round 4.

[path12]

3.3 Alshon Jeffrey, WR, Chi

[Butter]

Masked is up, Posts 5 & 6 updated, Yahoo is updated with all picks up to this point.

[Masked]

3.4. Le'Veon Bell, RB, Pit

[Comey]

3.5 QB Matthew Stafford, DET

[Butter]

3.6 WR Antonio Brown, PIT

[Chief Rum]

3.7 QB Andrew Luck, IND

[Butter]

Dang, I almost took Luck, but was hoping he might be there for me in Round 4. Guess not!

[Chief Rum]

Dang, I almost took Luck, but was hoping he might be there for me in Round 4. Guess not!

Heh... if you were in my head, you would have picked Luck. I picked Brees and Newton to start last year and ended up in the championship game, so why change what ain't broke? It was a guarantee I would try to grab two QBs in my first three picks.

You actually got a little unlucky, too, in that I picked Rivers in another league. If possible, I try not to have the same guy in too many different leagues. Rivers actually has potential for a better season, IMO, but I didn't want to have him on two teams. Next up, Luck! :D

[Chief Rum]

Actually, there's a pun! You got REALLY un-Luck-y!

[TRO]

3.8 RB DeMarco Murry DAL

[timmae]

3.9 RB Montee Ball DEN

[britrock88]

3.6 WR Antonio Brown, PIT

Augh!

[britrock88]

3.8 RB DeMarco Murry DAL

Double augh!

[britrock88]

Taking a different tack...

3.10 QB Nick Foles, PHI
4.1 QB Matt Ryan, ATL

[timmae]

4.2 WR Randall Cobb, GB

[TRO]

4.3 TE Julius Thomas DEN

[Chief Rum]

4.4 WR Vincent Jackson, TB

[Butter]

4.5 WR Larry Fitzgerald, ARI

[Comey]

4.6 QB Cam Newton, CAR

[path12]

Can I pick?

[path12]

Well, I'm going for it since it's been 3 hours. If I need to take it back I will.

4.8 Tom Brady, QB, NE

[Masked]

Uh, i was going to take Brady but I was unavailable.

4.7 Andre Johnson, WR Hou

[path12]

I'll abide by a ruling.

[Julio Riddols]

I'll wait for the ruling.

[Masked]

I'm fine with the outcome - I was late.

As an aside, I'm in the middle of a family emergency and was on a plane all day today. I'm likely to have continued periods of unavailable so this may come up again. I apologize for any inconvenience.

[Julio Riddols]

In that case, I will select shortly.

[Julio Riddols]

4.9 - Philip Rivers, QB, SDO

[Butter]

I'm fine with the outcome - I was late.

As an aside, I'm in the middle of a family emergency and was on a plane all day today. I'm likely to have continued periods of unavailable so this may come up again. I apologize for any inconvenience.

Sorry to hear it, hope everything is ok.

[Subby]

4.10 RB Reggie Bush, DET
5.1 WR Pierre Garcon, WAS

[Julio Riddols]

5.2 WR Michael Floyd, ARI

[path12]

5.3 Julian Edelman, WR, NE

[Masked]

5.4 tony romo Qb dal

[Butter]

Posts 5 & 6 and Yahoo draft boards updated through Pick 5.4.

[Comey]

5.5 TE Rob Gronkowski, NE

[Butter]

5.6 WR Roddy White, ATL

[Chief Rum]

5.7 WR Desean Jackson, WAS

[TRO]

5.8 Robert Griffin III WAS

[timmae]

5.9 WR Michael Crabtree, SF

[britrock88]

5.10 WR Keenan Allen, SDG
6.1 RB Zac Stacy, STL

[timmae]

6.2 QB Russell Wilson, SEA

[TRO]

6.3 RB Shane Vereen NE

[Chief Rum]

6.4 RB Joique Bell, DET

[Butter]

6.5 QB Jay Cutler, CHI

[timmae]

Nice pick butter... Solid.

[Comey]

I kept thinking about Cutler earlier on. I'm bullish on him.

[TRO]

Cutler is great value there. I liked him a bit better than RGIII, but I didn't want two week 9 byes at QB.

[Comey]

6.6 WR Victor Cruz, NYG

[Butter]

Nice pick butter... Solid.

Well, you took Russell Wilson, so I had to pull the trigger.

[Masked]

6.7 Wes Welker, DEN, WR

[britrock88]

6.6 WR Victor Cruz, NYG

This'll be good value if Eli pulls it together.

[Julio Riddols]

I think I might be the only one who thinks Cutler is a detriment to that offense.

[path12]

6.8 Ray Rice, RB, BAL

What?

[Julio Riddols]

6.9 TE Jordan Cameron, CLE

[Subby]

7.0 RB Ben Tate CLE
7.1 WR T.Y. Hilton IND

[Julio Riddols]

7.2 Chris Johnson, RB NYJ

[path12]

7.3 Ryan Mathews, RB, SD

[Butter]

Recap posts and Yahoo updated through 7.3.

[TRO]

I think I might be the only one who thinks Cutler is a detriment to that offense.

No, you might be right. But that offense, especially those receivers, make Cutler valuable.

[Butter]

Yes, the 2 stud receivers are going to pump up his numbers.

[Julio Riddols]

No, you might be right. But that offense, especially those receivers, make Cutler valuable.

He'll have a career year if he throws 30 TD's. I'm expecting him to put up numbers similar to what he did in 2008, only with more sacks. I think people see the way the team played with McCown last year and forget that Cutler started 11 games.

[Julio Riddols]

Don't get me wrong though, I thought he would explode last season with that supporting cast. I'm probably a little bitter he didn't.

[Masked]

7.4 Vernon Davis, TE, SF

[Comey]

7.5 WR Percy Harvin, SEA

[Butter]

7.6 QB Andy Dalton, CIN

My homer pick... Bernard was sorta too, but i think I got him in a good spot. This is probably a reach, but Dalton was a top-5 fantasy QB last year points-wise, so I'm hoping for more of the same.

[path12]

7.6 QB Andy Dalton, CIN

My homer pick... Bernard was sorta too, but i think I got him in a good spot. This is probably a reach, but Dalton was a top-5 fantasy QB last year points-wise, so I'm hoping for more of the same.

Aw dangit. I was hoping he'd last till my next pick.

[Butter]

Yeah, I was hoping for Jordan Cameron to make it to me, but he did not.

[Chief Rum]

7.7 TE Jason Witten, DAL

[TRO]

7.8 DEF Carolina Panthers, CAR

[timmae]

7.9 QB Colin Kaepernick, SF

[britrock88]

7.10 RB Toby Gerhart, JAX
8.1 WR Torrey Smith, BAL

[timmae]

8.2 RB CJ Spiller, BUF

[TRO]

8.3 DEF Seattle Seahawks, SEA

[Chief Rum]

8.4 San Francisco 49ers, DEF

[Butter]

8.5 TE Dennis Pitta, BAL

[Comey]

8.6 WR Cordarrelle Patterson, MIN

[timmae]

8.6 WR Cordarrelle Patterson, MIN

See post #69... :eek:

[Comey]

Whoops. Search engine fail.

Okay...

8.6 WR Kendall Wright, TEN

[Masked]

8.7 Alfred Morris, RB, WAS

[path12]

8.8 Eli Manning, QB, NYG

[Julio Riddols]

8.9 QB Carson Palmer, ARI

[Julio Riddols]

Comey, Comey, Comey Comey Comey con Patterson
Yo Comey no, es no bueno-o-o-ooooo

[Subby]

8.10 QB Ben Roethlisberger PIT
9.1 WR Jeremy Maclin PHI

[Julio Riddols]

9.2 WR Brandin Cooks, NOS

[path12]

9.3 QB Ryan Tannehill, MIA

[Masked]

9.4 WR Marques Colston, NO

[timmae]

Had my eye on Maclin... alas it was not meant to be.

[Comey]

9.5 WR Reggie Wayne, IND

[Butter]

9.6 RB Rashad Jennings, NYG

[Chief Rum]

9.7 RB Bishop Sankey, TEN

[Butter]

He would've been my choice if I didn't already have 3 other guys on Week 9 bye weeks.

[britrock88]

Watching lots of targets fly off the board in Round 9...

[TRO]

9.8 WR Emmanuel Sanders DEN

[britrock88]

Just noticed that this draft has an odd number of rounds.

[Chief Rum]

He would've been my choice if I didn't already have 3 other guys on Week 9 bye weeks.

I'm worried that TEN will hold him back because of these excahnge issues he has been having in camp and go with the "safer" Shonn Greene, but I am hopeful they will figure it out and get him in the starting lineup.

I need it--I pushed back getting RBs in this league because I have been of the opinion that passing/receiving wins more than rushing in this league.

[TRO]

I'm worried that TEN will hold him back because of these excahnge issues he has been having in camp and go with the "safer" Shonn Greene, but I am hopeful they will figure it out and get him in the starting lineup.

I need it--I pushed back getting RBs in this league because I have been of the opinion that passing/receiving wins more than rushing in this league.

I think this is generally a fair statement, but I think depth is the biggest issue. Have a massive hole is the worst option.

[timmae]

9.9 RB Frank Gore, SF

[britrock88]

9.10 DST Cincinnati Bengals
10.1 WR Mike Wallace, MIA

[timmae]

10.2 WR Golden Tate, DET

[TRO]

Damn, both my WR targets didn't come back to me.

10.3 WR Terrance Williams, DAL

[Chief Rum]

10.4 RB Fred Jackson, BUF

[Butter]

10.5 Arizona Cardinals, DST

[Butter]

Summary posts and Yahoo are updated.

[Comey]

10.6 RB Pierre Thomas, NO

[Masked]

10.7 TE Greg Olsen CAR

[Butter]

Post 1 has some important draft clock information.

[path12]

Ah Masked, you just snagged my pick.

10.8 WR Brian Hartline, MIA

[Masked]

Ah Masked, you just snagged my pick.

10.8 WR Brian Hartline, MIA

payback :devil:

[Julio Riddols]

10.9 Mike Evans, WR, TBY

[TRO]

10.7 TE Greg Olsen CAR

Very good value there.

[Subby]

10.10 RB Darren Sproles PHI
11.1 RB Trent Richardson, IND

[Julio Riddols]

Ugh, lets try this again.

11.2 Maurice Jones Drew, OAK

[Julio Riddols]

Would have had that posted last night but my internet connection is down and my neighbors connection is rarely strong enough for pages to load right.

[path12]

11.3. Zach Ertz. TE, PHI

[Masked]

11.4 WR Eric Decker, NYJ

[Comey]

11.5 WR Josh Gordon, CLE

[Butter]

11.6 WR Sammy Watkins, BUF

[Chief Rum]

11.7 D/SPT Kansas City Chiefs

[timmae]

Would have had that posted last night but my internet connection is down and my neighbors connection is rarely strong enough for pages to load right.

Laughed at this one..

[Julio Riddols]

My connection came back tonight, it has been nice to be able to read stuff without wondering if I will be able to continue a multiple page story or not, heh.

[TRO]

11.8 RB Danny Woodhead SD

[timmae]

11.9, QB Alex Smith, KC

[Subby]

Strong showing today!

[britrock88]

11.10 RB Stevan Ridley, NEP
12.1 TE Jordan Reed, WAS

[britrock88]

Strong showing today!

Let me enjoy my vacation! :p

[timmae]

12.2 TE Martellus Bennett, CHI

[TRO]

12.3 WR DeAndre Hopkins, HOU

[timmae]

Nice grab at 12.3!! I loaded up on WR's early but I love the possibilities with Hopkins.

[Chief Rum]

I'm here. Picking...

[Chief Rum]

12.4 WR Kelvin Benjamin, CAR

[Butter]

12.5 TE Kyle Rudolph, MIN

[Comey]

12.6 Denver Broncos DST

[Masked]

12.7 New England DST

[path12]

12.8 Mark Ingram, RB, NO

[Julio Riddols]

Aw hell, back around to me.. Picking soon.

[Julio Riddols]

Dammit Comey..

12.9 Pittsburgh Defense

[Subby]

12.10 TE Charles Clay MIA

[Subby]

13.1 TE Ladarius Green SD

[Butter]

As everyone has around 6-7 picks left, a reminder to don't forget to draft your Defense / Special Teams, and Kickers. Each team must draft 2 DST and 2 K in the draft.

[Julio Riddols]

13.2 Miami Defense

[path12]

13.3 Antonio Gates, TE, SD

Should be good for like three games.

[Masked]

13.4 New Orleans DST

[Comey]

13.5 St Louis Rams DST

[Butter]

13.6 WR Dwayne Bowe, KC

[timmae]

13.9 K Stephen Gostowski, NE

Note, time was up for picks 13.7 and 13.8.

[Butter]

Not exactly. I picked at 8:21 last night. Time runs out at 10 PM, leaves 21 minutes for today. 13.7, Chief Rum, his time expired at 10:21 AM. That means that 13.8 gets another 2 hours after that, unless I'm missing something.

So, if 13.8 shows up before 12:21, they can trump your pick.

[Chief Rum]

13.9 K Stephen Gostowski, NE

Note, time was up for picks 13.7 and 13.8.

Actually, it was only time's up for me, not TRO. The clock runs from 7 am to pm PDT. It doesn't matter to me, since my time was up and I didn't want to pick a kicker, but it might matter to TRO.

[Chief Rum]

13.7 RB Lamar Miller, MIA

[TRO]

I'll let the Gostkowski pick stand, but I think it is bad form to skip somebody if they haven't been given a PM letting them know their pick is up.

The Miller pick on the other hand, damn it. I wish I had know that time ran out!

[TRO]

13.8 WR Anquan Boldin, SF

[TRO]

FYI, I did send PM to bitrock after I made my pick.

[timmae]

My bad.. I thought I left 4 hours of draft time but I guess not. Whatever..

[Butter]

britrock has until 2:53 since he has 2 consecutive picks.

[britrock88]

Hey. Working now. Thanks for dealing with vacation time. :)

[britrock88]

13.10 Buffalo Bills, D/ST
14.1 RB Steven Jackson, ATL

[Butter]

Nothing like using 3:57 of a possible 4 hours. :p

[timmae]

14.2 K Justin Tucker, BAL

[TRO]

14.3 RB Knowshon Moreno MIA

[Chief Rum]

14.4 K Steven Hauschka, SEA

[Butter]

14.5 WR Reuben Randle, NYG

[Comey]

14.6 WR Riley Cooper, PHI

[Masked]

14.7 K Mason Crosby, GB

[path12]

14.8 Indianapolis, D/ST

[Julio Riddols]

14.9 - Tim Wright - TE - NED

[Subby]

14.10 QB Josh McCown TB

[Subby]

15.1 QB Jake Locker TEN

[Julio Riddols]

15.2 - James White, RB, NED

[Butter]

I think that's the first time a Dutch player has been taken in the draft.

[path12]

15.3 Carlos Hyde, RB, SF

[Masked]

15.4 QB EJ Manuel, Buf

[Comey]

15.5 QB Matt Cassel, MIN

[Butter]

15.6 QB Joe Flacco, BAL

Looks like the backup QB run is in full swing.

[Chief Rum]

15.7 QB Geno Smith, NYJ

[TRO]

15.8 QB Johnny Manziel CLE

[timmae]

15.9 QB Chad Henne, JAX

[britrock88]

15.10 K Phil Dawson, SFG
16.1 K Adam Vinatieri, IND

[timmae]

16.2 GB Packers def

[TRO]

16.3 QB Shaun Hill STL

[Chief Rum]

16.4 WR Justin Hunter, TEN

[Comey]

16.6 K Dan Bailey, DAL

[Masked]

16.6 TE Delanie Walker Ten

[Masked]

16.6 TE Delanie Walker Ten

Sorry, should be pick 16.7