College Football Week 6 discussion

[cartman]

Now we're starting to get some Top 25 matchups.

Alabama at Ole Miss
Oklahoma at TCU
LSU at Auburn
Texas A&M at Mississippi State
Stanford at Notre Dame
Nebraska at Michigan State

[Chief Rum]

Pac 12 has some interesting ranked versus nonranked matchups as well.

Arizona at Oregon
ASU at USC
Utah at UCLA

[Kodos]

Fuck. I'm still an IU football fan.

[tarcone]

LOL, Kodos.
Iowa on a bye this week. Then Homecoming and the fabled Hoosiers come to town.

Im just a college football fan this week. No allegiance to anyone.

[Kodos]

Root for the Hoosiers to help your S.O.S.!

I do feel like Mrs. Ray Rice right now. Battered, knocked out, still walking down the aisle.

[digamma]

Georgia Tech vs. Miami Saturday night in Atlanta. GT has a shot to take an early lead in the Coastal, but they haven't beaten Miami since 2008.

[Matthean]

Kind of curious to see how Michigan plays after last week.

[Kodos]

Kind of curious to see how Michigan plays after last week.

On BTN yesterday, they said the Indiana game is likely the only game Michigan will be favored in for the rest of the season.

:banghead:

[Suicane75]

Having watched both team play football, I don't see why they would be favored in that one. Do they not play Purdue?

[Kodos]

I don't think they do. Purdue and North Texas may be the only games where Indiana is favored to win.

[Matthean]

Do they not play Purdue?

They don't in part because Purdue is in the West.

[Matthean]

FYI, Michigan's best chance is starting Gardner and just accepting him for what he is this year. If Morris starts for the rest of the year, it is going to be a long season.

[Kodos]

Maybe Gunner Kiel can transfer in!

[Easy Mac]

Furman gets to be destroyed at home again, this time by Coastal Carolina. We've scored 6 offensive TDs in 5 games. Not 6 TDs in each of 5 games, but 6 TDs total. We lost to a team we haven't lost to in 35 years, and another we hadn't lost to at home in 20 years.

[Dr. Sak]

Furman gets to be destroyed at home again, this time by Coastal Carolina. We've scored 6 offensive TDs in 5 games. Not 6 TDs in each of 5 games, but 6 TDs total. We lost to a team we haven't lost to in 35 years, and another we hadn't lost to at home in 20 years.

How good is Coastal?

[Easy Mac]

How good is Coastal?

#3 in FCS.

[Thomkal]

How good is Coastal?

Very Very good :) I haven't been bragging about them like I've done in the past, but they are at their highest rank ever #3 in the polls, and have had just one game where they could have easily lost. Big South Conference is looking a lot tougher than ever though-Liberty was ranked for a while, and nemesis Charleston Southern is ranked this week for the first time after going 5-0. I'm nothing close to a NFL scout, but keep an eye on LB Quinn Backus at the next draft-he might become the best NFL player Coastal has ever had.

[Butter]

Even though I am finishing up a work project and planning on heading to bed, it's tempting to totally throw tomorrow down the toilet in order to stay up and watch the AZ-Oregon second half. 7-3 at halftime means it is setup for some fireworks.

[BishopMVP]

Even though I am finishing up a work project and planning on heading to bed, it's tempting to totally throw tomorrow down the toilet in order to stay up and watch the AZ-Oregon second half. 7-3 at halftime means it is setup for some fireworks.2nd half is bringing the offense so far... Although Oregon was gifted that last touchdown (very weak taunting call after an Arizona 3rd down stop.)

[BishopMVP]

Dola - yeah, I'd say this 2nd half is living up to expectations.

Why can't Michigan get a coach like this U Arizona guy?

[kingfc22]

Pac 12 officials. LOL.

[BishopMVP]

Pac 12 officials. LOL.

YUP

Officials just "made up" for that bad unsportsmanlike call on Arizona earlier, and then some. Hope this game goes to OT.

[MrBug708]

Dola - yeah, I'd say this 2nd half is living up to expectations.

Why can't Michigan get a coach like this U Arizona guy?
It's beginning to look like the problem part of Michigan/richrod fiasco was michigan .

[BishopMVP]

It's beginning to look like the problem part of Michigan/richrod fiasco was michigan .Partly, but he definitely had issues with his defense, particularly DB's. In retrospect, the offense certainly appeared to be clicking by the end of his tenure.

BTW, I saw Notre Dame fell behind UCLA in the AP poll despite winning - is that just evidence of anti-ND bias by the pollsters? Or is it cool that they dropped a top 10 team down after an unimpressive win?

[MrBug708]

I don't follow ND so I can't speak of the specifics but I hope there is some Anti-ND sentiment among pollsters

[mauchow]

Okay then. College football is here now.

[Lathum]

Zeros!

[Matthean]

Partly, but he definitely had issues with his defense, particularly DB's. In retrospect, the offense certainly appeared to be clicking by the end of his tenure.

The offense was only really good against bad teams. He could have gotten away with a lot if he had gotten a new DC, but the offense still wasn't quite there yet.

It will be interesting to see if this helps or hurts MSU's chance at a playoff spot.

[Arles]

Great win by Arizona last night - didn't make it onto the board with the Pack and Zona winning. The officials were pretty bad - Oregon got screwed on the taunting and Arizona got screwed on the 3rd down stop "unsportsmanlike" phantom call as well. Still, Oregon had the ball with 2:40 left and a chance to to tie and go into OT. Great stop by the Arizona defense and that Oregon OL has some issues.

It will be interested to see how the whole Oregon/Stanford/UCLA group pans out. Arizona should have a good season for our normal standards, but I can't see this team (esp the defense) contending for the Pac-12. Great win though - that's two in a row against Oregon and let's hope Rich-Rod stays in Tucson for a while!

[dawgfan]

Great win though - that's two in a row against Oregon and let's hope Rich-Rod stays in Tucson for a while!
That offense is scary when you consider Solomon is just a RS-Fr and pretty much the entire WR group (sans Hill) are Sophomores, plus Wilson at RB is a true frosh.

[cartman]

Interactive College Football Fan Map (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-fan-map.html)

[CU Tiger]

Partly, but he definitely had issues with his defense, particularly DB's. In retrospect, the offense certainly appeared to be clicking by the end of his tenure.


Far be it from me to ever defend Rich Rod...but anyone who has followed his career would tell you he essentially tolerates D because he has to do something between offensive possessions. That said he inherited a pretty bare cupboard there.

If Michigan fans would have gotten out of the way and gave him 5 years like he said from day 1 before they started grumbling they would have been in a BCS game by now. I truly believe he is that good of a HC.

[Arles]

Don't get a lot of top 5 road wins, so it's time to live it up!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzADmAECEAAjW3g.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzA-s7UIQAA5Dt5.jpg

[Matthean]

If Michigan fans would have gotten out of the way and gave him 5 years like he said from day 1 before they started grumbling they would have been in a BCS game by now.

Michigan beat VT in the Sugar Bowl 23-20. I'm sure most try not to remember it due to how brutally ugly it was.

[Kodos]

Interactive College Football Fan Map (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-fan-map.html)

Wow, as a die-hard IU fan, that map is painful. But probably accurate.

[Matthean]

JC Shurburtt on Twitter: "#Michigan interviewed Kevin Sumlin when it hired Hoke and turned him down http://t.co/A2ToejAwRQ" (https://twitter.com/jcshurburtt/status/517044265873338368)

[Matthean]

Cleveland Browns rookie Johnny Manziel contemplates reaching out to fellow Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston of Florida State Seminoles - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11634652/cleveland-browns-rookie-johnny-manziel-contemplates-reaching-fellow-heisman-trophy-winner-jameis-winston-florida-state-seminoles)

:lol:

[HomerSimpson98]

is the dreaded and infamous "upset week" upon us?!!

[miked]

Going to the white out tonight to hopefully watch GT embarrass the U. I had tickets to RU-Michigan, but couldn't travel :(

[JeeberD]

Fuck. I'm still an IU football fan.

Go Mean Green!

[BishopMVP]

That's targeting worthy of an ejection now? (A&M/Miss St)

[Dutch]

1 Florida State (27) 4-0 1416
2 Oregon (13) 4-0 1405
3 Alabama (13) 4-0 1387
4 Oklahoma (7) 4-0 1357
5 Auburn 4-0 1272
6 Texas A&M 5-0 1206
7 Baylor 4-0 1149
8 UCLA 4-0 975
9 Notre Dame 4-0 972
10 Michigan State 3-1 944
11 Ole Miss 4-0 906
12 Mississippi State 4-0 848

Can't remember I saw these two teams on the cusp of the top 10...probably never.

[JonInMiddleGA]

1 Florida State (27) 4-0 1416
2 Oregon (13) 4-0 1405
3 Alabama (13) 4-0 1387
4 Oklahoma (7) 4-0 1357
5 Auburn 4-0 1272
6 Texas A&M 5-0 1206
7 Baylor 4-0 1149
8 UCLA 4-0 975
9 Notre Dame 4-0 972
10 Michigan State 3-1 944
11 Ole Miss 4-0 906
12 Mississippi State 4-0 848

Can't remember I saw these two teams on the cusp of the top 10...probably never.

Unless you meant concurrently, it really hasn't been that long

Miss State #13 Oct 21, 2012
Ole Miss #4 Sept 20, 2009 (was in the pre-season top 10)

[BYU 14]

Indulge me, because I have to say this here instead of the BYU boards or I will get boxed......for about the 18th time.

3/4 of BYU 'fans' are fucking negative, clueless idiots that think reading Football for dummies while sipping a decaffeinated latte at Barnes and Noble makes you a fucking expert.

Those cocksuckers are like the June Cleaver version of Philly fans with how fast they turn on a team, all the venom, none of the profanity.

Myself and Macroguru are excluded from that 75% of course :)

Damn that loss hurt though!

[Karlifornia]

Stanford vs. Papists. Put all your money's down on Stanford

[tarcone]

Mississippi St. is now my 2nd favorite team. Yep, jumping on the bandwagon.

[JonInMiddleGA]

A grim reminder of just how bare a cupboard Butch Jones inherited in Knoxville.

An abysmal loss to a pretty bad team, sucks every bit of momentum out I'm afraid. Bowl hopes now come down to upsetting teams that are considerable better than the one they just lost to at home, no realistic reason that I can see to believe that's going to happen.

Are they better? Yes. Are they actually any good? No, not at this point.

[tarcone]

My top 4 is definitely evolving.

[JonInMiddleGA]

My top 4 is definitely evolving.

Oregon has already lost. At the moment FSU, Bama and Oklahoma are all trailing.

I wonder how many times that's happened to the top four teams.

Won't end up like that most likely but wouldn't it be something to see?

[Dutch]

Unless you meant concurrently, it really hasn't been that long

Miss State #13 Oct 21, 2012
Ole Miss #4 Sept 20, 2009 (was in the pre-season top 10)

Yep, I meant concurrently. Mississippi State shocking the football world for a second straight week!

[mauchow]

Katy Perry saying "cock" on Gameday was pretty funny.

seeing Corso with his mouth open at some of the stuff she did was funny....

Most awkward gameday ever.

[kingfc22]

That was a nasty injury to the Bama WR.

[miami_fan]

That was a nasty injury to the Bama WR.

Yeah hearing the player screams made it even worse.

[Easy Mac]

He's never playing again.

[Bigsmooth]

This frosh QB for Clemson is pretty electric, daym.

[NobodyHere]

Fuck. I'm still an IU football fan.

Seems like a good day to be an IU fan at the moment.

[panerd]

Oregon has already lost. At the moment FSU, Bama and Oklahoma are all trailing.

I wonder how many times that's happened to the top four teams.

Won't end up like that most likely but wouldn't it be something to see?

2007 had Mizzou, KU, Georgia, and West Virginia battling for #1 around Thanksgiving weekend and it ended up being Ohio State vs LSU in the national title game.

[BillJasper]

LOL at Ole' Miss.

I do wonder how the officials missed a very obvious face mask on the play?

[BillJasper]

Ole' Miss getting a number done on them by the refs.

[Jas_lov]

Notre Dame and Bama both have these refs in the bag. The NCAA wants ND-Bama in the title game.

[Arles]

8-1 penalties against Stanford. Must be nice to have those refs, ND. Add in an obviously skipped pass (you could see the dirt pop up) upheld as a catch.

[Atocep]

Mario Alford is fast.

[Easy Mac]

the SEC West is about to get a lot more interesting.

Egg Bowl for national title.

[lungs]

Wisconsin's QB situation is dreadful.

[Atocep]

Wisconsin's QB situation is dreadful.

WVU recruited Tanner McEvoy pretty heavily. As a TE/H-Back.

[JonInMiddleGA]

2 barnburners with title implications simultaneously

[Kodos]

Nice to easily win a game we should easily win. On to Iowa.

[Dutch]

Mississippi St. is now my 2nd favorite team. Yep, jumping on the bandwagon.

I grew up near Starksville, in Columbus and am a Bulldog fan, but I honestly just assumed that despite some good talent on this team's front-4 and Prescott playing so well that we would still lose at LSU and lose to Texas A&M...that's just the normal progression of pretty much every MSU season. So this is a very nice surprise, indeed.

[BillJasper]

Fuck Nick Saban. Couldn't happen to a nicer douchebag. There were at least three major bad calls in that game and all three went against Ole' Miss. Thankfully they were able to reverse the last one.

[cartman]

The Texas defense is bona fide. The offense, not so much. If you would have told me Brice Petty would be 7/22 for 111 yards, I'd think Texas had a surefire win.

[cartman]

Fuck Nick Saban. Couldn't happen to a nicer douchebag.

Yeah, why on earth do you call that timeout? All they have to do is kneel down one more time. The Herm Edwards play was taken out of the equation a long time ago.

[Warhammer]

The Egg Bowl will mean something this year.

[TroyF]

What an afternoon. About time there was a bunch of top tier teams playing each other. #2, #3, #6 already down. #4 in serious trouble. Great football games to watch as well. If Ole Miss had lost, there should be an investigation into the ineptitude of the ref on that side of the field. If replay didn't exist, they would have gotten screwed again at the end of the game.

I wonder how many unbeaten teams will be left by the end of the year. FSU probably will, even though I don't think they are nearly as good as last year. I could see ND beating FSU and then getting beat by USC.

Feel sorry for that Bama kid today. What a horrible injury.

[Buccaneer]

I totally love a weekend in which 3 of the top 4 get beat!!

[JonInMiddleGA]

I totally love a weekend in which 3 of the top 4 get beat!!

And #5 might have a cat fight on their hands too.
And #6 has already lost

[cartman]

is the dreaded and infamous "upset week" upon us?!!

Nailed it!

[BillJasper]

I think this week puts Michigan State right back in the hunt for the playoff.

[MrBug708]

David Shaw being David Shaw

[bronconick]

What an afternoon. About time there was a bunch of top tier teams playing each other. #2, #3, #6 already down. #4 in serious trouble. Great football games to watch as well. If Ole Miss had lost, there should be an investigation into the ineptitude of the ref on that side of the field. If replay didn't exist, they would have gotten screwed again at the end of the game.

I wonder how many unbeaten teams will be left by the end of the year. FSU probably will, even though I don't think they are nearly as good as last year. I could see ND beating FSU and then getting beat by USC.

Feel sorry for that Bama kid today. What a horrible injury.

FSU has some injury issues (Center broke his hand and Greene was concussed, already lost their best DL for the season) so it's basically about surviving week to week right now.

[BishopMVP]

David Shaw being David ShawBrutal play calling, although that 3rd and goal draw call from the 11 worked and almost won them the game.

Picked the right day to stop by a sports bar. 3 intense games in the 4th quarter concurrently there!

[BillJasper]

David Shaw being David Shaw

I wonder if he doesn't end up in Oakland or maybe San Francisco next year?

[MrBug708]

I wonder if he doesn't end up in Oakland or maybe San Francisco next year?

His time to move was probably last year.

Then again, UCLA probably loses to him this year anyways.

[cuervo72]

"Upset week" is funny though - it's almost set up to happen in some regards. I mean, for a lot of these teams it's the first week where they've played a half-decent opponent*. So if you're ranked highly because of preseason hype and cupcakes? Yeah, you might be "upset." We'll see if they were real upsets by the end of the season or not (not to say the games aren't exciting, but eh, a lot of this is speculation this early).

* Bama: WVU, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, Florida. Oklahoma: La Tech, Tulsa, Tennessee, WVU. aTm: South Carolina, Lamar, Rice, SMU, Arkansas. Who knows how crappy Arkansas really is or how middling SCAR might be.

[tarcone]

Nice to easily win a game we should easily win. On to Iowa.

GET READY TO NAP!!!!!!

Iowa football is a snoozefest. I wish we were exciting.
Iowa should win, but Indiana has an impressive offense. I guess it comes down to who ha sthe most plays.

[Danny]

All hail the state of Mississippi

[General Mike]

Rutgers being Rutgers

[tarcone]

B1G not so bad

[BishopMVP]

Now THAT is a legit targeting ejection! (LSU/Auburn)

[General Mike]

Gary Nova closing in on 300 passing yards at half time.

[Thomkal]

Upset week could hit the small schools too, #3 Coastal Carolina tied 21-21 with Furman start of the fourth quarter. :(

[Thomkal]

28-28 now about 5 mins left

[Matthean]

B1G not so bad

You mean it has two teams.

[Easy Mac]

Furman is somehow taking the #3 FCS team to overtime.

[Easy Mac]

Thomkal, did you make the trip? This is the only home Furman game we won't get to this year.

[Easy Mac]

Furman blocked a FG at the end is regulation to send it to OT. Just held Coastal to a FG.

We have a true Freshman his first start at QB tonight. Can't really ask for much more, win or lose.

[Easy Mac]

Just missed a wide open flea flicker.

[Easy Mac]

Furman just iced their own kicker. Thankfully he pushed the first try right.

[Easy Mac]

Made the second try. Let's play two ot

[Thomkal]

Thomkal, did you make the trip? This is the only home Furman game we won't get to this year.

Nope I did not make the trip.

[Easy Mac]

And now Furman misses a FG to start the second OT

[Easy Mac]

Coastal with a td

[Thomkal]

Coastal with a td

woot!

[Matthean]

26-24 Rutgers. 5:10 in the 4th. Michigan is driving.

[Thomkal]

great espn has Furman winning on their scoreboard

[BillJasper]

Joey Harrington is a terrible color analyst. That is all.

[Matthean]

Rutgers blocks a 56 yard FG that I doubt was being made anyway. 2:30 to go.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nice for GT to finally get a win over Miami. Ball control to the nth degree, just over 40 minutes TOP for the Jackets.

[Matthean]

I figure Hoke was already gone, but maybe the people who still questioned it are finally catching on. There is not a winning record remaining in that schedule and have mercy on that team when MSU and OSU get involved.

[Bobble]

I figure Hoke was already gone, but maybe the people who still questioned it are finally catching on. There is not a winning record remaining in that schedule and have mercy on that team when MSU and OSU get involved.

I was coming here to say something similar. I don't know how you defend Hoke now. He's had multiple top-ten recruit classes, all of the resources of a giant machine at U of M, and just hasn't shown any results. It'll be interesting seeing if the A.D. goes down with this sinking ship.

[Matthean]

I was coming here to say something similar. I don't know how you defend Hoke now. He's had multiple top-ten recruit classes, all of the resources of a giant machine at U of M, and just hasn't shown any results. It'll be interesting seeing if the A.D. goes down with this sinking ship.

The dude refuses to admit to there being a problem or there being a need to change anything. I had previously linked to a blog covering the program that talks about how much Michigan uses the huddle virtually regardless of the score and how slow paced the team is.

[Lathum]

ASU. Wow.

[TroyF]

Holy crap. I thought they would try a flare outside to set up a FG. Instead they go down the field and USC acts as though they haven't practiced a hail mary situation once. This isn't even counting the guy going for an INT instead of, ya know, just tackling the guy when USC was up two scores.

[Lathum]

#10 on USC really misplayed it.

[General Mike]

Rutgers blocks a 56 yard FG that I doubt was being made anyway. 2:30 to go.

I thought we were in store for the usual Rutgers choke, but we got one going our way for once.

[Arles]

Nice weekend for the Arizona schools. Great win for ASU - not sure what USC was doing in that 4th quarter.

[Bobble]

The dude refuses to admit to there being a problem or there being a need to change anything. I had previously linked to a blog covering the program that talks about how much Michigan uses the huddle virtually regardless of the score and how slow paced the team is.

His stubbornness sure didn't help him with the concussion scandal. He looked like he just got his back up and said that no, we're fine. The kid's tough (as if that mattered). No changed need be made. <folds arms>

I'm reminded of that scene from Clear and Present Danger where the president's cabinet is talking about denying the scandal involving a friend of the president and Jack Ryan recommends that you just go with it to defuse it. "If they ask if you're friends, you say, 'no, GOOD friends.' Give them nowhere to go." Same thing should have been done here. "We need to get better at evaluating it. We'll make changes. We're certainly not going to risk a kid's health to win a football game." It's mom and apple pie statements that every head coach should know to make in that situation.

[tarcone]

I think the Michigan AD isnt going anywhere. He is a big fundraiser that takes care of the Olympic sports. There would have to be a huge groundswell of football fans to get rid of him. I dont think there will be.

Hoke will be there next year. He has a little more leash.

[miked]

Huge wins for RU and GT. As a fan of both nothing makes me happier than watching the U get it run down their throats. I couldn't get my 5 year old to leave the stadium she was so into it, great crowd and game. We are probably being set up for the typical GT letdown, but with wins over GT and the U, the Coastal division is looking good.

[Julio Riddols]

Man, Tevin Coleman is legit. Indiana hasn't had a RB like this since Vaughn Dunbar/Anthony Thompson.

[Bobble]

Nebraska scaring Sparty

[Chief Rum]

UCLA at this time appears to be playing like it's en vogue to lose as a Top 10 team this week.

[Matthean]

Hoke will be there next year. He has a little more leash.

Anyone who thinks he stays is delusional. This team at best will be 6-6 and that's being hopeful. Recruits are going elsewhere. Considering they are giving away seats if someone is willing to buy a pop, there's zero chance he stays. Michigan is too prideful/arrogant to let a coach like that stick around. It's not like he's rebuilding either. This is a team that should be getting better and not continually looking up in the standing from the near or at bottom.

[CU Tiger]

This frosh QB for Clemson is pretty electric, daym.

Watson is amazing.

He makes plays Ive never seen before...and hes a true freshman.

[BillJasper]

Anyone who thinks he stays is delusional. This team at best will be 6-6 and that's being hopeful. Recruits are going elsewhere. Considering they are giving away seats if someone is willing to buy a pop, there's zero chance he stays. Michigan is too prideful/arrogant to let a coach like that stick around. It's not like he's rebuilding either. This is a team that should be getting better and not continually looking up in the standing from the near or at bottom.

I just can't envision a scenario where Hoke is back next year. With most AD's, I have a feeling he wouldn't have a job past tomorrow.

[Matthean]

And in case you were wondering, yes, Spartan fans jumped on Facebook to claim the reason MSU almost choked away a 24 point second half lead was due to the refs. :lol:

[Julio Riddols]

Also, have to wonder how well the Ole Miss kicker would do on the combine intelligence test.

[tarcone]

I dont think Im delusional. Let me ask my imaginary friend. nope, he said I wasnt delusional.
After getting rid of richrod so quick and then seeing him be successful and Hoke being a fabled "Michigan Man", I think he gets one more year.

[NobodyHere]

Anyone who thinks he stays is delusional. This team at best will be 6-6 and that's being hopeful. Recruits are going elsewhere. Considering they are giving away seats if someone is willing to buy a pop, there's zero chance he stays. Michigan is too prideful/arrogant to let a coach like that stick around. It's not like he's rebuilding either. This is a team that should be getting better and not continually looking up in the standing from the near or at bottom.

What if Michigan goes 6-6 but somehow beats Ohio State, does he stay then?

[MrBug708]

UCLA looks to be the latest casualty

[Bobble]

What if Michigan goes 6-6 but somehow beats Ohio State, does he stay then?

I can't see even that doing it. This isn't a fanbase that is satisfied with .500 -- especially after how this season has started out. If he wins out and beats both Michigan State and Ohio State on the road, then maybe.

[tarcone]

Utah almost got jobbed. that was a bad call on running into the kicker. but I guess the refs felt it was close enough to call it.
Doesnt matter. Utah with the upset.

[MrBug708]

So close, but we deserved to lose

[BishopMVP]

Connor Halliday has 669 yards so far... And WSU is still losing! 5 min left, NCAA record is 716 by David Klingler.

Edit - And Cal takes the lead back. Currently the 2 QB's are 82/118 for 1225 yards, with 11 TD's and 0 INT's.

Edit 2 - Halliday just broke the single game record with 734 yards now. 123 passes, 40 runs in this game. But Wazzu Cougs it, misses the 19 yard potential game winning FG, and loses 60-59. Thus ends what I can only assume was the most exciting and craziest day in PAC-12 history. All 6 games went down to the final 2 minutes.

[Chief Rum]

Fittingly, UCLA has two chances to kick a FG for the win and misses them both.

The kicking game is so critical. Hopefully the staff will now take it seriously and dedicate serious resources to bringing in talent there.

UCLA becomes the fifth Top 10 team to lose this weekend.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ya just kinda saw the end of the WSU game coming didn't you?

[BishopMVP]

Ya just kinda saw the end of the WSU game coming didn't you?Who's worse at closing games, them or UMass? I think we still have them beat, because we already lost earlier this year by shanking a 20-yard FG, then compounded that today by driving to 1st and goal at the 6, down 1, ran 2 plays, didn't spike it and had the clock run out on their 2 yard line.

[Lathum]

Who's worse at closing games, them or UMass? I think we still have them beat, because we already lost earlier this year by shanking a 20-yard FG, then compounded that today by driving to 1st and goal at the 6, down 1, ran 2 plays, didn't spike it and had the clock run out on their 2 yard line.

Cougs have been cougin it long before umass was a d1 program.

[BillJasper]

I don't think Brett Hundley is anywhere near ready to be an NFL QB and I just can't see him being a first-round pick.

[flounder]

Huge wins for RU and GT. As a fan of both nothing makes me happier than watching the U get it run down their throats. I couldn't get my 5 year old to leave the stadium she was so into it, great crowd and game. We are probably being set up for the typical GT letdown, but with wins over GT and the U, the Coastal division is looking good.

We'll probably be ranked this week and our record the first week after being ranked has to be something like 0-50000000.

[TroyF]

A truly amazing day of college football straight across the board. The amazing thing is the game that really sticks out is the Washington State game. So, let me get this straight:

1) Washington State gets 812 yards of total offense
2) Washington State has zero turnovers
3) Washington State has the ball for close to 36 minutes
4) They lose

Seriously? Good lord.

Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, UCLA, Stanford, LSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska, BYU, USC all go down. 11 of the top 20. (I realize some were playing each other, but holy crap)

So what do we have as far as unbeatens in big conferences now?

ACC: Florida State, Georgia Tech
Big 12: Baylor, TCU
Big 10: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (sorry)
Indies: Notre Dame
PAC12: Arizona (I'm sure Michigan fans love this)
SEC: Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State (obviously, only one of these three can make it unscathed and it'll be tough for any of them to do it)
Smaller conferences: Only Marshall is left

[JPhillips]

I think Mich St benefits the most from yesterday. They'll be right around five in the polls with plenty of time left. I'd be surprised now if they win out and don't get in the playoff.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Working on my own Top 25 this morning, didn't take long until I ran into a headscratcher of what to do with at least a couple of teams.

I'm going to need more coffee.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Along with the 10 unbeatens there are currently 31 teams with one loss.

Power 5: 25 (8 losses to unbeatens, 7 to one-loss )
The rest: 6

[miked]

We'll probably be ranked this week and our record the first week after being ranked has to be something like 0-50000000.

With all the losses this week, I don't know how GT stays out of the top 15. Man, if RU hadn't blown it in the final minute vs. PSU, they may even be a top 15 team.

[JonInMiddleGA]

With all the losses this week, I don't know how GT stays out of the top 15. Man, if RU hadn't blown it in the final minute vs. PSU, they may even be a top 15 team.

I still don't even figure GT in my top 25 (at least not on the first pass through).
All they've really done so far is diminish Miami & VT.

I suspect the unbeaten thing will get them enough votes nationally to squeak in around 20-25 but I don't think they'd even stay on the field for a half with 30-35 teams in the unbeaten / 1 loss category.

[JonInMiddleGA]

AP poll just dropped, Georgia Tech is #23

[TroyF]

I think Mich St benefits the most from yesterday. They'll be right around five in the polls with plenty of time left. I'd be surprised now if they win out and don't get in the playoff.

I think there was ONE unquestioned winner yesterday:

The Big 1G

The PAC 12 is no longer assured a place at the table now. Stanford getting beat at ND, USC dumping one, UCLA and Oregon going down at home. . . you simply cannot say they are getting a spot at the table now.

So, you figure 1 SEC, 1 Big12, 1 ACC or Indy (winner of FSU/ND game) and then a fourth. That fourth could be a second SEC or Big 12 team. . . but it could now just as easily be a Big 1G team. I don't think it's likely, but the possibility has now opened up for Michigan State and Ohio State.

[tarcone]

Michigan St. will get the 4th spot. Delaney didnt give his blessing to be left out.
No way a 2nd place Big 12 gets it over MSU (Im assuming they beat OSU).
Maybe on a 2nd place SEC team. But only if it is a really close Championship game. But even then, i dont think the powers that be want a SEC rematch in the playoffs that soon.

[Grammaticus]

AP poll just dropped, Georgia Tech is #23

They gave Ole Miss #4. Oh crap, I hope we can finish this season strong.

Jumped undefeated Notre Dame and probably should have jumped Baylor.

[tarcone]

I cant wait for the Egg Bowl. Potential to be the best ever.

[Grammaticus]

Yes, chances are both schools will have a loss by then, but the Egg Bowl is shaping up to be brutal. Definitely the year where both teams average the highest quality.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I cant wait for the Egg Bowl. Potential to be the best ever.

Unless Auburn has beaten both of them already. Then it's still the best ever buuuuut ...

Not saying Auburn will mind you, just what-iffing.

It would kinda be SEC-esque if one of the Mississippi schools beats Auburn, the other doesn't but then that loser wins the Egg Bowl.

[Matthean]

What if Michigan goes 6-6 but somehow beats Ohio State, does he stay then?

There are growing parts of the MSU fanbase that think Michigan is embarrassing. Not struggling, not having a bad season, embarrassing. The change in attitude between the two fanbases in Spartan country is significant. Usually you get a decent mix of people wearing stuff from both schools during gameday. Yesterday MSU fans were out in mass as much as ever. During my 8.5 hour shift yesterday I saw two people wearing something Michigan related. Two.

Michigan could suffer its third sub .500 season in 11 years while only having two 10+ win seasons in that time frame. Before this time frame, Michigan hadn't been bellow .500 since 1967. That 18 year old recruit was 7 during the time frame where Michigan was essentially still Michigan. Is Michigan in danger of losing the state in terms of a generation? Absolutely, and there's no way in hell Michigan wants that.

I can't fathom Michigan beating either MSU or OSU although OSU likes making the games closer than they should be. All it takes is another loss outside of those for a sub .500 record. There's more than enough remaining in that schedule to provide at least a third loss.

Remember, a coach is done once he losses his team. You know that happens when the coach and players spend a week defending against the idea that the coach has lost his players. That's already happened and it wasn't this past week. Michigan has played 6 games. They have beaten App. State and Miami(OH). I'm not hopeful PSU is being added to that list.

I think there was ONE unquestioned winner yesterday:

The Big 1G

The PAC 12 is no longer assured a place at the table now. Stanford getting beat at ND, USC dumping one, UCLA and Oregon going down at home. . . you simply cannot say they are getting a spot at the table now.

So, you figure 1 SEC, 1 Big12, 1 ACC or Indy (winner of FSU/ND game) and then a fourth. That fourth could be a second SEC or Big 12 team. . . but it could now just as easily be a Big 1G team. I don't think it's likely, but the possibility has now opened up for Michigan State and Ohio State.

I think this is one year where the SEC turns into a bloodbath so I don't see a second team getting in. I highly doubt any conference gets a second one in unless the bloodbath extends to more than one conference. I just think it is a pick four from 5 and the one left out is likely going to have a case. I just know that if Oregon and MSU finish with the same records, Oregon should get the nod or many people will be pissed.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I think this is one year where the SEC turns into a bloodbath so I don't see a second team getting in. I highly doubt any conference gets a second one in unless the bloodbath extends to more than one conference. I just think it is a pick four from 5 and the one left out is likely going to have a case.

Conference title games could make for serious insanity.

What if -- somehow -- an SEC East upsets the survivor of the West?
What if -- somehow -- an ACC Coastal upsets a previously unbeaten #1 FSU?
(that might be a Winston high ankle sprain away from happening)
What if a 2-loss Northwestern beats the presumptive B1G champ from the East?

I think whoever emerges from the Pac title game has a slot.
I think whoever wins the B12 gets a slot (unless it's a total bloodbath between now & then)

But the other 3 conferences? Could I say the title game champion is truly guaranteed? I don't think so, not today at least.

[Matthean]

Conference title games could make for serious insanity.

What if -- somehow -- an SEC East upsets the survivor of the West?
What if -- somehow -- an ACC Coastal upsets a previously unbeaten #1 FSU?
(that might be a Winston high ankle sprain away from happening)
What if a 2-loss Northwestern beats the presumptive B1G champ from the East?

If one happens, things are okay. I can't imagine NW winning the Big Ten. I mean, maybe if it was against OSU, but MSU held Nebraska to 47 rushing yards, 21 of Nebraska's 37 rushes MSU's defense made contact at or behind the line. The only reason that game got close was MSU let up and Nebraska took advantage. That's fundamentally taking away the strength of a team. I don't see NW being good enough to counter that good of a defense. Not when MSU knows it is a win away from the playoffs.

The SEC East being Georgia? That's the only team I can remotely talk myself into for the SEC East champ that I could see giving the West champ a go. If the West champ has a run defense, then no.

There's a lot of teams an ankle sprain away from being out of the playoffs.

[JonInMiddleGA]

The SEC East being Georgia? That's the only team I can remotely talk myself into for the SEC East champ that I could see giving the West champ a go. If the West champ has a run defense, then no.

Florida got better, albeit still not "good", with the QB change yesterday. And they're just a win in Jax over Georgia away from maybe winning the East. I think they're mediocre on a good day ... and yet somehow here they are in the mix still. Funny things happen.

[CU Tiger]

Holy LSD trip, Batman.
These new polls...uhhh...wow.

If EA allowed their polls to swing like this people would race back to Gamestop to trade in the disc.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Holy LSD trip, Batman.
These new polls...uhhh...wow.

If EA allowed their polls to swing like this people would race back to Gamestop to trade in the disc.

I wrestled mightily today with my own. I had less insanity (maybe) than the nationals will have, but not by a lot. It's the most complex week I can recall facing.

[Matthean]

Florida got better, albeit still not "good", with the QB change yesterday. And they're just a win in Jax over Georgia away from maybe winning the East. I think they're mediocre on a good day ... and yet somehow here they are in the mix still. Funny things happen.

You mentioned Florida. I rest my case. :lol:

[CU Tiger]

I wrestled mightily today with my own. I had less insanity (maybe) than the nationals will have, but not by a lot. It's the most complex week I can recall facing.

I can understand a lot of difficult rankings this week.

But when is the last time a team went from unranked (29th)to 10th
or
25th to 9th

Ole Miss beats Bama for their first win of the year and are suddenly 3rd.

Granted I realize it doesnt matter right now...but the SEC having 7 of the top 25 because they started there and beat cupcakes and each other is tough to swallow.

[Matthean]

The beauty of it is that there are more games and it will tend to work itself out.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I can understand a lot of difficult rankings this week.

But when is the last time a team went from unranked (29th)to 10th
or
25th to 9th

Ole Miss beats Bama for their first win of the year and are suddenly 3rd.

Granted I realize it doesnt matter right now...but the SEC having 7 of the top 25 because they started there and beat cupcakes and each other is tough to swallow.

I didn't believe Miss State until yesterday. Now I think they could run the table as much as Ole Miss. (They actually got a bigger upgrade from me than Ole Miss did)

That said though, those kinds of jumps you mentioned are part of having so many teams in front of them lose, an unprecedented number in the top 8. Ole Miss climbed, what, 8 spots? 5 of those are from teams ahead of them losing. Otherwise they go maybe 11 to 7 and it doesn't seem so extreme.

[tarcone]

I love Mississippi St.s QB. He is a flat out stud, who is having a tremendous year.
Forget the NW talk. Iowa is the cream of the B!G West. Oh brother. And Iowa could lose to Indiana next Saturday.

My 4 playoff teams right now are FSU, Mississippi St, Baylor, Michigan St.

[CU Tiger]

I didn't believe Miss State until yesterday. Now I think they could run the table as much as Ole Miss. (They actually got a bigger upgrade from me than Ole Miss did)

That said though, those kinds of jumps you mentioned are part of having so many teams in front of them lose, an unprecedented number in the top 8. Ole Miss climbed, what, 8 spots? 5 of those are from teams ahead of them losing. Otherwise they go maybe 11 to 7 and it doesn't seem so extreme.

But Jon, is the ACC had the same preseason rankings and Miami had one loss and GT beat them...should they be #2 or #3...

I just dont think the SEC is that invincible.

Forgive me and my Orange Color glasses...but I see watched a team outside the top 25 yesterday that can play with any team in the country.

[Butter]

Coastal with a td

I watched the end of this game after getting back to my in-laws' from Clemson / NC State.

Was surprised to see Furman made it a game after the rant you had on them earlier.

Also surprised to see Van Earl Wright as the sideline reporter? Of Headline News fame back when they had Sports at :20 past the half hour?

[panerd]

Florida got better, albeit still not "good", with the QB change yesterday. And they're just a win in Jax over Georgia away from maybe winning the East. I think they're mediocre on a good day ... and yet somehow here they are in the mix still. Funny things happen.

The reigning SEC East champ is undefeated in the SEC and controls their own destiny and outside of LSU this year Arkansas/A&M looks like it might be the easiest draw of SEC West teams.

[panerd]

But Jon, is the ACC had the same preseason rankings and Miami had one loss and GT beat them...should they be #2 or #3...

I just dont think the SEC is that invincible.

Forgive me and my Orange Color glasses...but I see watched a team outside the top 25 yesterday that can play with any team in the country.

Except they had their chance against an SEC team (some say the 4th-5th best one) and laid a huge egg so yes you do have orange color glasses on. This should be the year to beat South Carolina though right?

And GT has a chance against that same Georgia team later in the year to show the ACC is quality.

[Matthean]

But Jon, is the ACC had the same preseason rankings and Miami had one loss and GT beat them...should they be #2 or #3...

I just dont think the SEC is that invincible.

Forgive me and my Orange Color glasses...but I see watched a team outside the top 25 yesterday that can play with any team in the country.

If you mean Clemson, uh, no. 45-21 against Georgia and the only reason they were close to FSU is due to Winston being out.

[JonInMiddleGA]

But Jon, is the ACC had the same preseason rankings and Miami had one loss and GT beat them...should they be #2 or #3...

Miami has one player of note. The joke there is that they were considered anything more than an also-ran in the first place. That was legacy/history, not reality.

I just dont think the SEC is that invincible.

Half of it ain't ... most of which is in the East.

Hell, I'd figure Arkansas beats anybody in the ACC outside of FSU.

Forgive me and my Orange Color glasses...but I see watched a team outside the top 25 yesterday that can play with any team in the country.

With Watson, maybe up to a point I'd agree with you. But they're sub-500 if they were in the SEC West this year, same as most of the rest of the country.

[CU Tiger]

Except they had their chance against an SEC team (some say the 4th-5th best one) and laid a huge egg so yes you do have orange color glasses on. This should be the year to beat South Carolina though right?

And GT has a chance against that same Georgia team later in the year to show the ACC is quality.

And I'll give UGA credit they haven't avoided playing good competition unlinke most of the SEC. If Clemson even qualifies as good.

But lets recap.
UGA beat Clemson, yes. But it was a tied game in the 4th quarter despite Clemson sitting 5 defensive starters for a suspension and having 2 more starters (for the game) second stringers out with injury.

But UGA is #13 in the country and Clemson is unranked.

OK..

Start at #15 and go down and tell me any team that wouldn't be a 7 point underdog to Clemson...I'll wait.

[CU Tiger]

With Watson, maybe up to a point I'd agree with you. But they're sub-500 if they were in the SEC West this year, same as most of the rest of the country.

We will just agree to disagree for now and see what the future holds.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And I'll give UGA credit they haven't avoided playing good competition unlinke most of the SEC. If Clemson even qualifies as good.

But lets recap.
UGA beat Clemson, yes. But it was a tied game in the 4th quarter despite Clemson sitting 5 defensive starters for a suspension and having 2 more starters (for the game) second stringers out with injury.

But UGA is #13 in the country and Clemson is unranked.

OK..

Start at #15 and go down and tell me any team that wouldn't be a 7 point underdog to Clemson...I'll wait.

For some perspective I rate Clemson ahead of GT, as the 2nd best team in the ACC. I have the Tigers #22 in my own poll.

But to your question, starting from AP #15, on a neutral field, I would not pick them to beat ... much less give 7 points ... to anyone other than:

Ohio State (who I have 24) Georgia Tech (#25) and Utah (who I did not rank). I'd call ECU a toss up. There'd be several shootouts, but there's nobody else I'd pick them over based on where things are today.

[JonInMiddleGA]

We will just agree to disagree for now and see what the future holds.

Absolutely.

[cuervo72]

Actually, what IS the basis for UGA being ranked #13?

Beat a currently unranked Clemson, lost to a South Carolina team that has now lost 3 in the SEC including to KENTUCKY, won by 3 over a pretty meh Tennessee, and blowouts against Troy and Vandy. So, they're #13 on the basis of preseason hype and the Clemson win?

Does Vegas have a ranking system? I feel like Vegas should have a ranking system.

[Matthean]

I see watched a team outside the top 25 yesterday that can play with any team in the country.

If Clemson even qualifies as good.

(whistles innocently)

OSU would be an easy pick to be better than -7 against Clemson.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Actually, what IS the basis for UGA being ranked #13?

Have you watched 'em?

I hate those bastards worse than pretty much anything you can name, and it's not the least bit hyperbole when I say I'd pull for the Al Qaida All-Stars against them in a women's JV water polo exhibition ... but it's a pretty good football team (when the coaches let them be anyhow)

Gurley is a bad mutha, and they've got a stable of back 4 deep that could start for at least half the teams in D1 tomorrow. Questionable hands at WR, questions perhaps about the QB, questions about their secondary for sure. But with those backs, they're dangerous against nearly anybody.

[cuervo72]

Yeah, I know. And going down the list, I realized that hey -- none of these other teams has done anything either, because they've pretty much all played a bunch of patsies or some lessers in their own conferences. Still struggling to accept that the whole thing is speculation, despite how important the arbitrary rankings are to folks.

[CU Tiger]

(whistles innocently)

OSU would be an easy pick to be better than -7 against Clemson.


Oklahoma State at #16...might be a great game I haven't watched them this yet. If you meant Ohio State...I'll just laugh and move on.

I'm in a grumpy mood today so me arguing CFB wont go well so I'll bow out.

But I'll submit that in 7 weeks Clemson will be 10-2 and talking about deserving consideration for the #4 spot.

I'll also submit that if the coaching staff listened to the half the free world and let DW#4 start his first game in Athens they may have a Top 5 ranking right now..

[cartman]

Where do I pick up my Nostradumbass award? From back in 2011:

If Ole Miss could ever get an Xs and Os coach that could also recruit to keep the in-state talent coming to Oxford, they would be a force to be reckoned with.

[CU Tiger]

Where do I pick up my Nostradumbass award? From back in 2011:

Only you didnt know it would cost 936,000 to get the best player from
GA, FL, MS, and TN in the same year.

Hugh Freeze is a weird dude...has the personality of a paperweight...and Gene chizik once said to me, "I dont know how he sleeps at night. Ive never seen a dirtier head coach." and he wasnt being intentionally ironic, nor would I say inaccurate.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Hugh Freeze is a weird dude...has the personality of a paperweight...and Gene chizik once said to me, "I dont know how he sleeps at night. Ive never seen a dirtier head coach." and he wasnt being intentionally ironic, nor would I say inaccurate.

I've said for months that they're the dirtiest program in the country right now, hands down. The eventual boom that they'll bring down on themselves might be SMU proportions, I believe they're THAT dirty.

But 'til they're caught, they're starting to look kinda dangerous.

[CU Tiger]

Agree on the dangerous part...disagree on the the "boom"....the NCAA asks the SECs for it's penis so they can take a piss these days.

They will not hammer anyone ever again. If SC and Auburn got away with what they did (and that says nothing of what UNC did) nothing will come of Ole Miss..

Project 8/6/13 is well under way...and I said as much 18 month ago. Coincidence that Clemson and FSU are both top 5 recruiting programs right now?

Nah.

[Dutch]

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida State (35) 5-0 1461
2 Auburn (23) 5-0 1459
3 Mississippi State (2) 5-0 1320
3 Ole Miss 5-0 1320
5 Baylor 5-0 1258


Wow, that is just soooo bizarre. Love it!

[BishopMVP]

CU Tiger's post reminded me... Gene Chizik won a national title 3 years ago. Sometimes unexplainable shit happens in CFB.

[Grammaticus]

So there are 3 SEC west teams in the top 3. I think Auburn and miss st play each other next week.

[BishopMVP]

So there are 3 SEC west teams in the top 3.And none of those 3 are Alabama, LSU, or A&M... What sort of odds could you have gotten on that even a month ago?

[Matthean]

So there are 3 SEC west teams in the top 3. I think Auburn and miss st play each other next week.

There won't be in the end. I know people love to hammer the ESPN and SEC thing, but those top 4 will only include one SEC team in the end.

[CU Tiger]

PUI is not a good thing for me..,

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

There won't be in the end. I know people love to hammer the ESPN and SEC thing, but those top 4 will only include one SEC team in the end.

I think in the end, having multiple one loss teams in the SEC without an undefeated team does just the opposite. Barring three clear undefeated teams in other conferences, the SEC will get two one loss teams in the playoffs. If there was one clear SEC champ, that wouldn't happen.

[JPhillips]

And none of those 3 are Alabama, LSU, or A&M... What sort of odds could you have gotten on that even a month ago?

Especially if you include that none of the three in the top three would be ranked number one.

[HomerSimpson98]

I think the Miss State love needs a tapping of the breaks. I like Prescott and their run game alot but their defense is highly questionable. I can see them losing 2-3 when this plays out, especially if Prescott gets dinged up. If they can get past Auburn tho, that sked really plays out well for them, outside of a trip to T-Town.

Ole Miss, now, damn. If Prescott was QB'ing in Oxford, then this could be the team to beat. But Wallace is such a walking CF, I am positive the Rebs will flame out soon. Biased I know, but i think A&M knocks off Ole Miss this Saturday. Either that or Ole Miss wins by 30 :(

Auburn is looking unbeatable right now.