2014 NFL Regular Season, Week 6

[Abe Sargent]

Jaguars? Raiders? Any sign of life?

[Lathum]

Big game in the NFC East between the Giants and Eagles. You have to figure the Cowboys lose at Seattle, so if the Giants can knock off Philly, a big IF, there will be a 3 way tie for first place with all 3 at 4-2. If Philly wins they get some distance between them and the Giants and Dallas.

[Radii]

Cincinnati is better than Carolina, and I expect them to play great coming off that loss to the Pats, but I'm still excited to see how this one actually goes on the field.

Lathum mentioned something about the Giants having a brutal schedule in the last thread.

Going back to Week 2, this is Carolina's schedule:

vs Detroit
vs Pittsburgh
@Baltimore
vs Chicago
@ Cincinnati
@ Green Bay
vs Seattle
vs New Orleans
@ Philadelphia

A couple of those teams won't make the playoffs, but only a couple I bet. I would say that the next 5 in a row starting with Cinci this week are against likely division winners (or in the case of New Orleans, hopefully Carolina/New Orleans ends up being for the division... just a weaker division than first expected :P)

[Lathum]

AJ Green carted off at practice today

[Julio Riddols]

Cinci is having some of their best snake bitten bad luck so far this year. Burfict has played about a game and a half, Green has been 80% most of the year, Marvin Jones has been out all year, Eifert has played a quarter, Zeitler is down for a while longer.. Jermaine Gresham sucks terribly, and the defense without Burfict is almost depressingly weak. They'll need to get creative to break even until Eifert and Zeitler come back and they probably ought to sit Green until he is over whatever has been bothering him, before it becomes a thing.

Their luck needs to change soon or it is going to be a struggle to make the playoffs, let alone get the playoff monkey off their backs.

[OldGiants]

Jaguars? Raiders? Any sign of life?

Nate Silver currently says Raiders have 11% chance of a bagel and Jags 7%. Throw inthe Foreskins and there exists a troika of stench of historic turdiness.

The possibilty that the foreskins could go 1 and 15 and only get the 3rd pick is more than a negligible chance.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Nate Silver currently says Raiders have 11% chance of a bagel and Jags 7%. Throw inthe Foreskins and there exists a troika of stench of historic turdiness.

The possibilty that the foreskins could go 1 and 15 and only get the 3rd pick is more than a negligible chance.

As horrible as these teams have been, their odds of matching the Lions 0-16 season are still pretty low. Goes to show you just how special the Detroit Lions organization really is.

I mean, hell, Kyle Orton is 5-0 against them.

[NobodyHere]

Colts can dominate the division race if they win tonight.

However I'm wary that they have an away game on a Thursday night.

[Lathum]

Police catch alleged laser culprit from Detroit Lions game - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11669862/police-catch-alleged-laser-culprit-detroit-lions-game)

idiot bragged about it on social media...

[Lathum]

Adrian Peterson of Minnesota Vikings ordered arrested for pot admission - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11670621/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-ordered-arrested-pot-admission)

stupidity or just that brazen?

[Thomkal]

Adrian Peterson of Minnesota Vikings ordered arrested for pot admission - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11670621/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-ordered-arrested-pot-admission)

stupidity or just that brazen?

I vote stupidity

[Danny]

He is a huge moron

[Travis]

Quite curious to see how the Seattle/Dallas game goes. Murray has been tearing it up while the Seahawks are allowing just 62.3 yards per game (2.6 per carry).

If, and it's a huge if, they can limit Murray early and make Dallas fairly one dimensional, things should go well. If the Dallas offensive line can impose their will and keep the Cowboys offense balanced, I could see this being a 34-31 type shootout.

Here's hoping the D can start a bit of a turnover run. Only 3 so far this season so the run on those should start any week now...

[SteveMax58]

Quite curious to see how the Seattle/Dallas game goes. Murray has been tearing it up while the Seahawks are allowing just 62.3 yards per game (2.6 per carry).

If, and it's a huge if, they can limit Murray early and make Dallas fairly one dimensional, things should go well. If the Dallas offensive line can impose their will and keep the Cowboys offense balanced, I could see this being a 34-31 type shootout.

Here's hoping the D can start a bit of a turnover run. Only 3 so far this season so the run on those should start any week now...
I think Dallas actually matches up surprisingly well against Seattle. Their O-line is pretty big & stout. If they commit to run the ball, like they've failed to do in so many years past, they may be able to dominate this game.

But I could see this going either way including a pick 6 the other way on Romo to win it.

[molson]

Adrian Peterson of Minnesota Vikings ordered arrested for pot admission - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11670621/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-ordered-arrested-pot-admission)

stupidity or just that brazen?

I blame his parents, they probably didn't inflict enough violent discipline on him growing up.

[Abe Sargent]

Lets go Houston!

[Abe Sargent]

Whoa, onside kick recovery

[NobodyHere]

Onside Kick!
Nice call Chuck!

[NobodyHere]

TD Colts!

Can't start a game much better than that.

[Abe Sargent]

WTH? How did the defender actively try to avoid touching the guy on the ground on that play?

[Racer]

Onside Kick!
Nice call Chuck!

Pat McAfee I think is given free reign from the coaches to attempt onside kicks in situations where the success of an onside kick is likely (when the other team is not in onside formation and the Colts are or in situations like tonight). I believe the Colts have been lining up in onside kick formation a lot this year because McAfee is so good at getting touchbacks.

[NobodyHere]

Luck to Bradshaw for the TD now!

[NobodyHere]

24-0 at the end of the first quarter. I'm loving it as a Colts fan but as a NFL fan I say we should cancel Thursday Night Football (or at least move it to Friday or Saturday).

[Radii]

24-0 at the end of the first quarter. I'm loving it as a Colts fan but as a NFL fan I say we should cancel Thursday Night Football

Yup. All Thursday Night Football does is weaken the 4pm slate of games every week. It accomplishes nothing.

[NobodyHere]

Yup. All Thursday Night Football does is weaken the 4pm slate of games every week. It accomplishes nothing.
I prefer to have an extra game to watch. Saturday evenings would be great for me.

[Abe Sargent]

And all o fa sudden this is a game again

[NobodyHere]

The Texans actually showed up.

[Abe Sargent]

That guy is Watt-tastic.


Edit - I'm not sure if there is any defending player who is making a case for Canton right now like Watt is.

[NobodyHere]

I'm surprised this game isn't getting more conversation as it is actually a game now.

[CU Tiger]

Seems like the refs are doing all they can to help Indy win. And I say that as a guy who played a dime on Indy tonight.

[BishopMVP]

Embarrassing effort by DeAndre Hopkins on that game-ending fumble.

[NobodyHere]

Well I probably failed a college test today, lost $800 in the stock market, but at least I didn't see the Colts choke on a 24-0 lead.

[NobodyHere]

24-0 at the end of the first quarter. I'm loving it as a Colts fan but as a NFL fan I say we should cancel Thursday Night Football (or at least move it to Friday or Saturday).

I really need to stop posting at some point

[stevew]

JJ Watt is making an inner circle HOF type move in his career path right now. One of the guys on Grantland NFL Podcast talked about how Watt would score 5TDs this year kind of joking. He's already got 3 which is crazy. Too bad the shitty Texans have wasted stage 1 of his career with shitty ass QBs.

[Thomkal]

Nice comeback against Indy, but can't really believe in the Texans until they beat quality teams like Indy and Dallas.

[Butter]

Embarrassing effort by DeAndre Hopkins on that game-ending fumble.

Agree. He was definitely jogging and had no intention of diving in there.

[Sun Tzu]

I'm not sure if there is any defending player who is making a case for Canton right now like Watt is.

Seriously?

J.J. Watt has been in the league for 4 years, and his first year was mediocre in every sense of the word. No fumbles forced, 5.5 sacks, 48 tackles. Now, I'm not discounting that he's playing at a very high level right now, but let's not start sucking the guys dick over a phenomenal second year and a strong start to his fourth year.

...meanwhile...

Patrick Willis

7 Years in the league
7 Pro Bowls
5 First team All-Pro selections
1 Second team All-Pro selection

[Sun Tzu]

In other NFL news...

Julius Thomas is fined $8k for an illegal chop block during a Week 5 game, and Colin Kaepernick is fined $10k for wearing pink headphones during a press conference in support of Breast Cancer awareness month.

What the hell is wrong with this league?

[Matthean]

Katy Perry to play halftime of Super Bowl - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11673709/katy-perry-play-half-super-bowl)

[miked]

In other NFL news...

Julius Thomas is fined $8k for an illegal chop block during a Week 5 game, and Colin Kaepernick is fined $10k for wearing pink headphones during a press conference in support of Breast Cancer awareness month.

What the hell is wrong with this league?

I agree, it's pretty stupid. But he wasn't fined for wearing pink headphones, he was fined for wearing Beats by Dre when the league has an exclusive contract with Bose. He can wear his headphones outside the NFL all he wants and do commercials, but if he's at an NFL function it's Bose or nothing.

But yeah, stupid that protecting Bose is more important than protecting the health of their players.

[JPhillips]

But uniform violations have been a thing for at least a decade and all the players know about it. I'd guess Kaep knew exactly what he was doing, and Beats pays for the fine and sees all the publicity as a good investment.

[CU Tiger]

Seriously?

J.J. Watt has been in the league for 4 years, and his first year was mediocre in every sense of the word. No fumbles forced, 5.5 sacks, 48 tackles. Now, I'm not discounting that he's playing at a very high level right now, but let's not start sucking the guys dick over a phenomenal second year and a strong start to his fourth year.

...meanwhile...

Patrick Willis

7 Years in the league
7 Pro Bowls
5 First team All-Pro selections
1 Second team All-Pro selection

And Willis is very good, but at no point in his career has he ben the best player in the league at his position. Watt has been for 2.5 solid years right now. I'd even argue that he is the best defensive player in the game right now, something Im not sure Willis cacks the Top 10 for.

If you dont think he is playing like a future HOFer right now you simply are biased against him. He has to continue it for sure. If he gets hrut tomorrow and never plays another down, no, he isnt a HOFer. But I dont think anyone is on a better projection path towards HOF right now amongst current defenders.


Though you are welcome to fellate whomever you'd like, not my style...

[Abe Sargent]

Seriously?

J.J. Watt has been in the league for 4 years, and his first year was mediocre in every sense of the word. No fumbles forced, 5.5 sacks, 48 tackles. Now, I'm not discounting that he's playing at a very high level right now, but let's not start sucking the guys dick over a phenomenal second year and a strong start to his fourth year.

...meanwhile...

Patrick Willis

7 Years in the league
7 Pro Bowls
5 First team All-Pro selections
1 Second team All-Pro selection



That's why I used the words "Right now" in my sentence. Meaning, you know, right now. Not over the last X years. Right now means right now.

[stevew]

I don't think anyone would argue against Willis being on the path towards a surefire first ballot guy either.

[Sun Tzu]

I just can't get on-board with throwing out "Canton" for any player who isn't even in their 5th year.

Seriously guys. David Boston (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BostDa00.htm) just called and told you to get a grip.

[Dutch]

I just can't get on-board with throwing out "Canton" for any player who isn't even in their 5th year.

Seriously guys. David Boston (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BostDa00.htm) just called and told you to get a grip.

You are clearly very upset by this. We should all get in lock-step right now behind your opinion and be quiet about JJ Watt for another 3 years or so...

[Vince, Pt. II]

...but at no point in his career has he ben the best player in the league at his position...

I'd say there was a solid three to four year stretch where he was the best LB in the league. He only gave up the title when teammate Bowman surpassed him.

[Sun Tzu]

You are clearly very upset by this. We should all get in lock-step right now behind your opinion and be quiet about JJ Watt for another 3 years or so...

I'll give you two options here, and with all sincerity, I don't care which one you pick. After that post, I...

A.) ...knocked my chair over and stormed off in a fit of rage, cursing under my breath. Then I kicked my dog, yelled at my kid, quit my job, and bought a handgun. I'm loading it...right now.

or

B.) ...continued living my very nice life, with absolutely zero emotional residue from a post on the interwebs.

[Sun Tzu]

I'd say there was a solid three to four year stretch where he was the best LB in the league. He only gave up the title when teammate Bowman surpassed him.

Yeah. Pretty much this. I believe "First Team All-Pro" kind of signifies he was considered the best at his position in the NFL. He has 5 of those. So, yeah.

Puff, puff, pass.

thx

[TroyF]

Seriously?

J.J. Watt has been in the league for 4 years, and his first year was mediocre in every sense of the word. No fumbles forced, 5.5 sacks, 48 tackles. Now, I'm not discounting that he's playing at a very high level right now, but let's not start sucking the guys dick over a phenomenal second year and a strong start to his fourth year.

...meanwhile...

Patrick Willis

7 Years in the league
7 Pro Bowls
5 First team All-Pro selections
1 Second team All-Pro selection

Willis is a stud. He's going to the Hall of Fame. The statement wasn't first ballot though. It was inner circle. It also stated "Making a move"

Look, forget position. . . I think you could make a case that JJ Watt has been the best player in the entire league in 2012, 2013 and 2014. In my mind, he's clearly the best defensive player and nobody else really comes in at a close second. (This is with apologies to some damned good football players. Von Miller at his peak, Bowman, Willis, Richard Sherman. (I just cried typing that last name by the way)

Of course, anything can happen. Injury. Drugs. Punching a women in an elevator. Sudden loss of effectiveness. All of that. If he became a league average player starting next year and accumulated another 5 years, is he in the hall? Easily. This is a generational player and there is nothing wrong stating it right now.

We should all be appreciating Willis as well, though I don't think he was the best LB on his own team last year. He's one of my single favorite players in the game and I'll watch the Niners just to see him. I think JJ Watt right now is better than Willis has ever been. Just my opinion :)

[Vince, Pt. II]

I think that's a fair and probably correct opinion. Watt is insanely good.

[Dutch]

I'll give you two options here, and with all sincerity, I don't care which one you pick. After that post, I...

A.) ...knocked my chair over and stormed off in a fit of rage, cursing under my breath. Then I kicked my dog, yelled at my kid, quit my job, and bought a handgun. I'm loading it...right now.

or

B.) ...continued living my very nice life, with absolutely zero emotional residue from a post on the interwebs.

JJ Watt has really got you fired up!

[Abe Sargent]

Watt is the only defensive player in the league right now, that I think you could make a GOAT argument for.

Now, I'm not a Watt-fan. Heck, I';m a fan of a division rival in the jaguars. So that's with some chagrin. But I have to admit it. I;m not the sort of fan to use that language often. I know when to give accolades.

Sure, he could pull a Tony Boselli and get injured or something. But if he doesn;t...

[Lathum]

JJ Watt has really got you fired up!

I had no idea Watt got traded to Seattle

[Vince, Pt. II]

I had no idea Watt got traded to Seattle

:)

[Desnudo]

I had no idea Watt got traded to Seattle

What does that have to do with the refs screwing the 49ers?

[Sun Tzu]

You guys really boil my potatoes!

[mrtourette]

I'll give you two options here, and with all sincerity, I don't care which one you pick. After that post, I...

A.) ...knocked my chair over and stormed off in a fit of rage, cursing under my breath. Then I kicked my dog, yelled at my kid, quit my job, and bought a handgun. I'm loading it...right now.

or

B.) ...continued living my very nice life, with absolutely zero emotional residue from a post on the interwebs.

My money's on A

[Dutch]

You guys really boil my potatoes!

The ever-elusive and often forgotten Option C...

[EagleFan]

It's a good time to be a fan of the NFL. We get to see the best young defensive player in Watt, best defensive back in Sherman, best young quarterback in Wilson all with plenty of time left in their career while we still have the old guard of Brady and Manning.

(just ignore the off field stuff going on if you really want to appreciate this era...)

[Thomkal]

Carson Palmer likely to start today against the Redskins thank the gods, but still a gametime decision. Stanton has passed concussion protocol tests, and is cleared to play, but may not have enough reps to start over Logan Thomas if Palmer cannot play.

[Matthean]

It's a good time to be a fan of the NFL. We get to see the best young defensive player in Watt, best defensive back in Sherman, best young quarterback in Wilson all with plenty of time left in their career while we still have the old guard of Brady and Manning.

(just ignore the off field stuff going on if you really want to appreciate this era...)

Not to beat a dead horse, but I will, I don't think Wilson is the clear #1 young QB in the league considering the shear difference in talent levels between Seattle and Indy. Now, if you want to correlate Brady to Wilson and Manning to Luck, then by all means.

Carson Palmer likely to start today against the Redskins thank the gods, but still a gametime decision. Stanton has passed concussion protocol tests, and is cleared to play, but may not have enough reps to start over Logan Thomas if Palmer cannot play.

I'm pretty sure I've had enough reps to start over Logan.

[Alan T]

Did they change who can air what conference games this year? Buffalo vs New England is on fox?

Does this have something to do with the whole flex game pick schedule thing they started a few years ago and fox decided to take this game away from cbs or something?

[Abe Sargent]

Figure the Jets to screw up like that after getting some strong momentum

[mckerney]

Lions defense doing a number on Bridgewater so far.

[mckerney]

Did they change who can air what conference games this year? Buffalo vs New England is on fox?

Does this have something to do with the whole flex game pick schedule thing they started a few years ago and fox decided to take this game away from cbs or something?

I thought that started (at was at least around last year) where in certain weeks networks can pick games from other conference.

EDIT: Nevermind, this says it's done for the first time this year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4769025/pats-bills-game-moves-to-fox

[MikeVic]

So uhh, barely the start of the 2nd quarter and already five td passes for flacco.

[cuervo72]

OMGWTFBaltimore

[TroyF]

When Tampa decides not to show up, they REALLY decide not to show up.

Broncos struggling against the Jets. The Jets front has been incredibly strong and is forcing Manning to move move than he wants. It's really strange to watch this team. They are struggling. Penalties, a few bad breaks, great pressure by the Jets, . . yet you look up and they have over 200 yards in the half, 17 points and a ten point lead.

[Lathum]

Whisenhunt should be fired for not using Sankey more.

[TroyF]

I haven't seen a lot of the Jets this year. Good lord, this team is bad. They clearly have one of the best defensive lines in the league. It is truly dominant. I'm struggling to find another single position they are above average on.

QB, no. RB, no. Offensive line, no. WR, not really. TE, ok, MAYBE average. DL, dominant, LB and DB - HAHAHAHA

The last Broncos drive the Jets got away with a clear face mask. One play later, one of their guys cheap shots a Broncos after the play and gives Denver first and goal anyway.

The Broncos, as an organization, should feel ashamed they trailed against this football team for even a second.

[stevew]

At some point Jim Caldwell will figure out he shouldn't be kicking FGs.

[Matthean]

At some point the Bucs will figure out they shouldn't have hired Lovie Smith.

[Thomkal]

Nice to see Cleveland break their losing streak against Pitt. Not so good to see Buffalo fail again against NE. Jets you had better not come back and beat Denver or I will curse you soundly (Denver was my survival pick)

[Thomkal]

After my beloved Cards wasn't sure who was going to be their starting QB this week, all three are active for the game and Palmer will start.

[Abe Sargent]

The jets have just stolen momentum in the last few minutes

[Abe Sargent]

Nice to see Cleveland break their losing streak against Pitt. Not so good to see Buffalo fail again against NE. Jets you had better not come back and beat Denver or I will curse you soundly (Denver was my survival pick)

This is one of the main reasons I dropped fantasy football long ago. I don't like to root for unnatural things. I don't want to root for Andre Johnson when he plays against the Jaguars, or for a Cowboys player ever. I can just root for the teams that I want to win and move on.

So let's go JETS!

[kingfc22]

Jags so close, but no.

[Thomkal]

18 penalties and counting in CIN/CAR

[TroyF]

This is one of the main reasons I dropped fantasy football long ago. I don't like to root for unnatural things. I don't want to root for Andre Johnson when he plays against the Jaguars, or for a Cowboys player ever. I can just root for the teams that I want to win and move on.

So let's go JETS!

Note: I haven't played fantasy football in a couple of years due to severe time restrictions.

The comment above is one I heard repeatedly over the years. I never, ever, ever, even if it was the Super Bowl of my fantasy league, cheered for anything but the team I wanted to win.

I tried to do fantasy with my brain and cheer with my heart. If the Broncos were playing the Packers and I had Aaron Rodgers, I hope Aaron throws 12 INT's, gets sacked 34 times and throws for 64 yards. Why I liked fantasy was because a game with two teams I had no interest in suddenly became interesting.Bills/Dolphins December tilt? If my opponent has CJ Spiller, it's interesting.

I'll get back into fantasy when the time allows. i hope sometime next year. Would love to get back into baseball this april, but I don't know if time will allow it yet.

[Abe Sargent]

Note: I haven't played fantasy football in a couple of years due to severe time restrictions.

The comment above is one I heard repeatedly over the years. I never, ever, ever, even if it was the Super Bowl of my fantasy league, cheered for anything but the team I wanted to win.

I tried to do fantasy with my brain and cheer with my heart. If the Broncos were playing the Packers and I had Aaron Rodgers, I hope Aaron throws 12 INT's, gets sacked 34 times and throws for 64 yards. Why I liked fantasy was because a game with two teams I had no interest in suddenly became interesting.Bills/Dolphins December tilt? If my opponent has CJ Spiller, it's interesting.

I'll get back into fantasy when the time allows. i hope sometime next year. Would love to get back into baseball this april, but I don't know if time will allow it yet.

Obviously with everyone it's different, but yeah, I was conflicted by it. It's hard for me to root for one team to win but the other to have their RB get more than 100 rushing yards and a pair of TDs.

[stevew]

Love that fake spike.

[stevew]

Jesus, I could have thrown that to Quarless

[larrymcg421]

Fuck football. I hate it.

[Thomkal]

Aaron Rodgers with an incredible final drive to win the game-connected on 4th and 10 then a fake spike to get another first down. Scores with 3 seconds left.

[TroyF]

Denver with a brain cramp. I'm all about going for the win. Be aggressive and end the game if you have a chance.

Yet, why on Earth with a minute left, would you throw the ball and stop the clock when the Jets don't have a time out. You could have ran it down to 30 seconds or so. Instead give the Jets a minute after the incompletion. It doesn't matter, because the Jets can't protect the QB to save their lives, but that was stupid.

Denver INT, game over.

Denver has this nasty habit of outplaying teams and still allowing them to stay in the game.

ONe note so people know it's really me: The reffing in this game was beyond horrible in favor of the Jets. Missed face mask penalties, a safety late that should have been called and wasn't, Jets Oline getting torched repeatedly but never once called for a hold. . . It was beyond one sided. The Jets just don't have the ability to make that type of thing mean anything.

[stevew]

Fuck football. I hate it.

I'm like, someone should mark quarless. Geez that guy really doesn't wanna get out there and mark Quarless. Unsurprisingly he's open by about 5 feet

Then I thought of how mad Kodos probably is.

[Radii]

Miami ran up the middle on 3rd and 9 with 2:55'ish left instead of trying a pass play for the first down that would have ended the game (Green Bay was out of timeouts). Why in the world would you choose to run 40 seconds off the clock but still give the ball back to Green Bay with 2 minutes left instead of trying to seal the game?

[Abe Sargent]

Don;t look now, but is anyone else reminded a bit of the Breees/Rivers Chargers era with the Browns and Hoyer/Manziel stuff? Underappreciated QB who plays well is threatened by a 1st rounder with a lot of press and responds by elevating his game?

[stevew]

Miami ran up the middle on 3rd and 9 with 2:55'ish left instead of trying a pass play for the first down that would have ended the game (Green Bay was out of timeouts). Why in the world would you choose to run 40 seconds off the clock but still give the ball back to Green Bay with 2 minutes left instead of trying to seal the game?

Cause you're a shitty coach

[Thomkal]

This is one of the main reasons I dropped fantasy football long ago. I don't like to root for unnatural things. I don't want to root for Andre Johnson when he plays against the Jaguars, or for a Cowboys player ever. I can just root for the teams that I want to win and move on.

So let's go JETS!

I have not played regular fantasy football for a few years now, but I understand the conflct there. Hard to root against my beloved Cards when they are playing against my team.

As for the Jets, they are my twin brother's favorite team, so I love to see them struggle :) And I see Geno Smith just gave up a pic-6 to end the game there

[Radii]

Overtime in Cinci!

[Jas_lov]

With all the talk of Watt, Wilson, Sherman it's Aaron Rodgers who reminds us why he's still the best player in the league. Packers are a 3 win team without him.

Joe Philbin made a grave error running on 3rd and 9 with 2:50 left to drain 40 seconds off the clock rather than trying to get the first down and end the game. Getting the first down would mean Rodgers never gets the ball back. Packers were also without their top 2 corners.

[EagleFan]

With all the talk of Watt, Wilson, Sherman it's Aaron Rodgers who reminds us why he's still the best player in the league. Packers are a 3 win team without him.

Joe Philbin made a grave error running on 3rd and 9 with 2:50 left to drain 40 seconds off the clock rather than trying to get the first down and end the game. Getting the first down would mean Rodgers never gets the ball back. Packers were also without their top 2 corners.

You mean the guy that would have fumbled the victory away if not for a great heads up play by the lineman to jump on it?

[Abe Sargent]

I agree that the Packers, minus Rivers,would suck.


Just like the Colts did minus Manning, if you'll recall.

[miami_fan]

Wait, Brady Quinn is a NFL analyst?

[NobodyHere]

Wait, Brady Quinn is a NFL analyst?

If Matt Millen can be a paid analyst, anyone can.

[stevew]

Nice special teams Dallas.

[Thomkal]

ah there's the Dallas Cowboys we know and love. Punt blocked, run back for TD

[stevew]

Dola, was at the perfect camera angle to see it develop too

[stevew]

Newton seems like he can go 7 yards off left tackle any time he wants

[EagleFan]

I want to watch Seahawks/Cowboys... can this OT game finish already...

[EagleFan]

What happened to the old rule where the network would switch away from a bonus coverage game when the National Game started?

[stevew]

Hate these rules in the regular season.

[stevew]

What happened to the old rule where the network would switch away from a bonus coverage game when the National Game started?

Only applies in a must carry local situation IIRC.

Like Dallas would have switched over already

[EagleFan]

Can we either get a 72 yard TD pass or a pick 6 on this play?

(sorry, getting impatient)

[stevew]

This is going to be a tie.

[Radii]

I'm so sorry you have to sit through overtime between two playoff contenders instead of getting to watch the first quarter of another game between two playoff contenders. :P

[stevew]

Oh geez, never mind.

[EagleFan]

I'm so sorry you have to sit through overtime between two playoff contenders instead of getting to watch the first quarter of another game between two playoff contenders. :P

A game between two teams that I couldn't care less about versus a game between my second team and a team I hate...

[EagleFan]

Ball's loose? I guess the announcer was the only person that didn't know what they were doing there?

[Radii]

damn, grats cinci, good game.

[Radii]

oh my god

[EagleFan]

lol

[Radii]

well, still a good game, but thanks for the half credit!

[kingfc22]

Ooooof

[stevew]

N'ermind my never mind.

[EagleFan]

Guess Dalton needed to go another yard left on the kneel down.

[Thomkal]

and that's one kicker who won't have a job next week...

And Cardinals secondary getting burned again. :(

[Grover]

Fire Mike Nugent.

[Abe Sargent]

Part of me wishes I was still living in Morgantown, WV, in the PA broadcast zone, so I could have watched the Browns just spank them today.

[Desnudo]

Part of me wishes I was still living in Morgantown, WV, in the PA broadcast zone, so I could have watched the Browns just spank them today.

I was in a bar in San Francisco and there was a dog pound chant. Maybe the first time since the Bernie Kosar era?

[Julio Riddols]

Fire Mike Nugent.

Quinn Sharp has obviously been the better kicker both of the last 2 preseasons.. I hope they bring him in. That was goddamn pathetic. Dalton has silenced a lot of critics with his play this season though, and this game was one of his best. He did have the one really weird duck interception, but other than that, he played his ass off.

[Jas_lov]

Nugent missed the kick but why did Marvin Lewis just settle for the FG on the 20 yard line? There was 40 seconds left and he had a TO. Try picking up another 10 yards then settle for the chip shot.

[Butter]

Not sure how to feel about this tie... I guess that's what it's supposed to feel like.

[JPhillips]

Nugent missed the kick but why did Marvin Lewis just settle for the FG on the 20 yard line? There was 40 seconds left and he had a TO. Try picking up another 10 yards then settle for the chip shot.

Dalton had two INTs already.

[MIJB#19]

Not sure how to feel about this tie... I guess that's what it's supposed to feel like.It'll mean no-tiebreak-needed for both teams at the end of the season. :D

[Julio Riddols]

Nugent missed the kick but why did Marvin Lewis just settle for the FG on the 20 yard line? There was 40 seconds left and he had a TO. Try picking up another 10 yards then settle for the chip shot.

36 yards, man. Kickers in the NFL hit that at something like a 95% clip I think.

[cuervo72]

Somebody needs to put Stockton out to pasture.

(Yes Dick - the xp to make it 14-10 was to tie it up. Because 14 = 10. Also, that penalty on the punt return was totally for "holding in the back.")

[rowech]

36 yards, man. Kickers in the NFL hit that at something like a 95% clip I think.

Even at an 80% clip, they played that right. No excuses on Nugent. 36 yards is already a chip shot.

Carolina did a great job at using Cincinnati's aggressiveness against them. Lot of good mis-direction. Defense looks worse than average the last two weeks.

[Julio Riddols]

Even at an 80% clip, they played that right. No excuses on Nugent. 36 yards is already a chip shot.

Carolina did a great job at using Cincinnati's aggressiveness against them. Lot of good mis-direction. Defense looks worse than average the last two weeks.

Fully agreed. Continuously biting on the RB fakes was frustrating to watch.

[Radii]

Not sure how to feel about this tie... I guess that's what it's supposed to feel like.

I think in that game especially its very easy for both teams to see all things they could have done slightly better to allow them to win the game. Gano missed a FG that he rarely misses earlier in the game too which I was regretting quite a bit in the second half of the 4th quarter. I thought Carolina got a little conservative at the end of their drive in OT, Cotchery had a legit chance at the TD grab in the end zone on 2nd down in OT, not an easy catch but one he absolutely could make, etc, etc, etc.

[JPhillips]

The Bengals d-line stinks. Geno isn't back to normal and Hunt can't hold the edge the way Johnson did.

[Danny]

Derek Carr looking pretty beast so far today

[TroyF]

Some random thoughts:

1) You can't even call Rodgers the sure fire best QB in the NFL, much less best player. (Which was the discussion with Watt, Sherman, etc.) If we are talking MVP, there are a lot of guys who are incredibly valuable to their teams and most of them play QB. Osweiller, Tarvarius Jackson, Nssib, Yates, Clemens. The fan bases of all those teams would throw in the towel on any playoff hopes they had if those QB's took over.

2) Seattle is very good this year, but they are not nearly as dominant as last year. Not even close. Something is missing on both offense and defense. Lynch could be added in that MVP debate above. I have no idea how Seattle would replace his physical running if he were to get injured.They have time to get hot and become dominant and they might do it, but right now they are beatable.

3) Blake Bortals looks pretty damned good. Still has a lot to learn, but it looks like Jax has the QB of the future now.

4) I have always thought Hoyer could play. He seemed to get injured everytime he had a chance. Good to see him succeeding.

5) I'm so glad Seattle isn't my favorite team. I cannot stand that football team. Really, really cannot stand it.

[TroyF]

Derek Carr looking pretty beast so far today

he looks really good. A lot of drops from the Raider receiving core. He's putting the ball where it needs to be and allowing guys to run with it after the catch. It's pretty impressive to watch.

[TroyF]

I think it is time to ask the question, how good of a job is Rod Marrineli doing?

This question should also be asked: How funny is it to see Pete Carroll, the Seahawks players and the Seahawks fans cry about questionable PI calls not being called against the other team?

[cuervo72]

I think WAS got hosed on that fumble call.

[Butter]

Let's go Cowboys. Terrance Williams on that sick first down catch... They deserve to win just for that. But the whole game has been a heck of an effort.

This post guarantees them a loss, I'm afraid.

[Julio Riddols]

DeMarco Murray is really having a hell of a year. I vote him as the guy that has turned the Cowboys fortunes around. A back like that does wonders for an offense.

[cartman]

They had Murray last year, and he led the league in YPC. It is the play calling that is the difference this season.

[Abe Sargent]

Wow Cowboys

[cartman]

Wilson pulls a Romo

[Matthean]

I think it is time to ask the question, how good of a job is Rod Marrineli doing?

And to think how bad of a hire people, self included, thought it was. Detroit is still only tied with the Packers, and they have to play @GB yet. Beating GB is bad enough. In GB? :lol: This is going to be a year that the Lions are going to want to win their division.

[TroyF]

Wilson pulls a Romo

Is that a compliment? I mean, hell, isn't it time the Tony Romo garbage stops? I mean, I know in ten years this will get spun. Tony Romo never won a big game. Someone will say "well, what about Seattle" and someone else will smirk and laugh it off like what happened today was a joke.

Last time someone put up 30 points on that team in Seattle was week 8 of the 2011 season. (The Bengals)

Good for Tony today. Happy for him.

[cartman]

Is that a compliment? I mean, hell, isn't it time the Tony Romo garbage stops? I mean, I know in ten years this will get spun. Tony Romo never won a big game. Someone will say "well, what about Seattle" and someone else will smirk and laugh it off like what happened today was a joke.

Last time someone put up 30 points on that team in Seattle was week 8 of the 2011 season. (The Bengals)

Good for Tony today. Happy for him.

If you look back, I get laughed at for being a Romo supporter. So it was more snark than anything else.

me on the field last year after the collapse against Green Bay:

http://www.fofc-bbcf.com/cowboys.jpg

[TroyF]

I think that was one of the dumber challenges I have ever seen. It looked like down by contact in live action. Looked like it in slow motion, looked like it on green eggs, looked like it on. . . oh forget it. What a dumb ass challenge. It was like he decided he only wanted to have one more challenge in the game. Incredibly stupid and short sighted.

[TroyF]

cartman,

The people who hate Romo have obviously never had to watch garbage QB's for a decade or more. I think they are playing over their heads right now. Huge win today, but I think they will come down to earth and the D will get exposed some. nobody will remember this win at that point. It'll be something about a Romo collapse that caused everything. You can take that one to the bank.

[TroyF]

Foles just threw a pass about as well as one can be thrown. I figured Coughlin would challenge the extra point. May as well waste the other one.

[Lathum]

This is not going well.

[cuervo72]

Not so far, but recall that the Eagles almost gave up a huge lead to St. Louis last week. So, long ways to go here.

[sabotai]

The Giants' offensive line from week 1 showed up...

[TroyF]

News coming in from Philly:

If you allow the Eagles to run on you, you are dead before the game starts. Even if you are playing well. I really expected a Giants win tonight. I didn't think the Giants would be this poor at stopping the run.

If they don't get it under control quick, the yardage is going to really start racking up on play action bombs.

[cuervo72]

Eh, that's not a flag.

[sabotai]

Eagles keep putting 9 in the box on 1st and 2nd and the Giants go "eh fuck it, just keep running it."

[Lathum]

Eagles keep putting 9 in the box on 1st and 2nd and the Giants go "eh fuck it, just keep running it."

That's the Giants for you. Run it up the middle in first down. Never gets old.

[Lathum]

Giants are averaging 15 yards to go in third down. Not really a recipe for success.

[cuervo72]

That play made me wonder if they picked up something in Eli's calls. Totally stacked the line.

[Lathum]

This is absurd.

[EagleFan]

Why didn't they just take a knee at that point. Only bad things could have happened and almost did with Eli under pressure.

[cartman]

The police at Lincoln Financial are looking for a woman in Eagles gear that stole someone's prosthetic leg.

Police at Eagles-Giants game searching for stolen prosthetic leg - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24750313/police-at-eagles-giants-game-are-searching-for-stolen-prosthetic-leg).

[cuervo72]

And, here we go.

[Lathum]

That's the Giants for you. Run it up the middle in first down. Never gets old.

Never gets old.

[cartman]

And, here we go.

or, maybe not

[Lathum]

Oh man. Cruz drops a wide open td and comes down grabbing his knee and writhing around. Doesn't look good

[TroyF]

Could that have went any worse? Non contact injury. Ouchie, ouchie, ouchie.

[Dr. Sak]

I hope Cruz is ok

[sabotai]

It just keeps getting better and better!

[TroyF]

Oh man. Cruz drops a wide open td and comes down grabbing his knee and writhing around. Doesn't look good

The leg he jumped off of is the one he hurt. I'd bet money he was in so much pain he wasn't worrying about the ball. The fact that will go down as a drop is sad. that doesn't look good at all.

[EagleFan]

Ouch, not good for Cruz. Most likely his season is done.

[TroyF]

Torn patela tendon.

[Lathum]

Torn patella. Gross.

[sabotai]

= his season is over

[cuervo72]

or, maybe not

Yeah, perhaps not.

Awful to watch Cruz riding off in the cart like that.

[EagleFan]

Hope Sproles is okay. At least he is walking but the way his leg got twisted I thought it was going to be really bad.

[sabotai]

After the first two games, I was thinking "Maybe 6-10 for the Giants". Then the next three games happened and made me rethink that, but after tonight and seeing who the next 5 opponents are....yeah, 6-10 looking like a real possibility.

[mrtourette]

Miami ran up the middle on 3rd and 9 with 2:55'ish left instead of trying a pass play for the first down that would have ended the game (Green Bay was out of timeouts). Why in the world would you choose to run 40 seconds off the clock but still give the ball back to Green Bay with 2 minutes left instead of trying to seal the game?

Because you have no faith in your QB converting a 3rd and 9 so would rather run the clock down a bit and hand the ball over than stop the clock and hand the ball over (or even worse turn it over).

[stevew]

And, here we go.

Guess the city?

[NobodyHere]

The Brown's next 3 opponents have a combined record of 1-16. So they could easily be 6-2 3 weeks from now.

[stevew]

I'd bet on 3-5 before I bet on 6- . They are the Browns after all

[Abe Sargent]

I'd bet on 3-5 before I bet on 6- . They are the Browns after all

I think they'll be 5-3 after that stretch.

[Dutch]

After the first two games, I was thinking "Maybe 6-10 for the Giants". Then the next three games happened and made me rethink that, but after tonight and seeing who the next 5 opponents are....yeah, 6-10 looking like a real possibility.

6-10 sounds glorious.

[Matthean]

Week 6 Wrap-up: Heavy Is the Head « (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/week-6-wrap-up-heavy-is-the-head/)

Interesting that Arizona is #3 in terms of keeping their division lead.

[cartman]

The guy up in Philly got his leg back.

Veteran reunited with leg stolen by drunk Eagles fans | www.ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/veteran-reunited-leg-stolen-drunk-eagles-fans/nhhWX/)

[Vince, Pt. II]

Week 6 Wrap-up: Heavy Is the Head « (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/week-6-wrap-up-heavy-is-the-head/)

Interesting that Arizona is #3 in terms of keeping their division lead.

Yeah, but the other divisions are crazy tight too, and the leaders have all shown signs of leakage. The Cardinals have fought through a crazy part of the schedule with ridiculous injury problems. They're a pretty damned good football team.

[kingfc22]

Didn't see ESPN last night or today. Has the network gone to the 24-7 Lebron, Favre, Manziel type coverage of "The Cowboys are back"?

[gstelmack]

The police at Lincoln Financial are looking for a woman in Eagles gear that stole someone's prosthetic leg.

Police at Eagles-Giants game searching for stolen prosthetic leg - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24750313/police-at-eagles-giants-game-are-searching-for-stolen-prosthetic-leg).

Is this who they are looking for?

http://cdn3-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2014/05/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Rocket-Raccoon.jpg

[NobodyHere]

The guy up in Philly got his leg back.

Veteran reunited with leg stolen by drunk Eagles fans | www.ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/veteran-reunited-leg-stolen-drunk-eagles-fans/nhhWX/)

At least nobody vomited on a kid this time.

[cuervo72]

Is this who they are looking for?

Heh - thought that too.

[Vince, Pt. II]

The 49ers are close to having run 10 offensive plays. One of them has been a run. What. The. Fuck.

[kingfc22]

That call was brutal. What game are these guys watching?

[EagleFan]

Why are you catching a punt on your own 3?

[kingfc22]

That was HUGE.

[EagleFan]

The Rams seem to be good for one solid half of football each game.

[stevew]

Don;t look now, but is anyone else reminded a bit of the Breees/Rivers Chargers era with the Browns and Hoyer/Manziel stuff? Underappreciated QB who plays well is threatened by a 1st rounder with a lot of press and responds by elevating his game?

Much more like Derek Anderson vs Brady Quinn IMO. Fringe QB gets to play, does well and holds off highly touted rookie.

[EagleFan]

Is Gruden turning more and more into a bad impersonation of Madden?

[kingfc22]

Took two quarters but the Niners finally showed up. Two plays changed this game: the brutal PI and the bomb to Lloyd.

[EagleFan]

Good defensive play by Vernon Davis...

[TroyF]

Much more like Derek Anderson vs Brady Quinn IMO. Fringe QB gets to play, does well and holds off highly touted rookie.


I do not believe this to be the case. With Anderson, even in his monster year there were signs of major problems on the horizon. His accuracy was poor. He threw 19 INT's.

Hoyer is more accurate with the ball, seems to be more careful with it and it looks to me like his skills will hold up better. The amazing thing to me is he's doing this without Gordon. The running game has been massive (and Mack going down may hurt that a bit), but he's doing this without a clear cut #1 option. I think he'll only get better when he gets that back.

[MizzouRah]

I'm not sure anyone would care if the Rams packed up and went back to LA. I love them.. but I've been so frustrated since the greatest show on turf.

[BishopMVP]

Why is every Oklahoma State player such a head case? Dallas Cowboys RB Joseph Randle arrested for shoplifting - ESPN Dallas (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/11699736/dallas-cowboys-rb-joseph-randle-arrested-shoplifting)

[NobodyHere]

I really don't get the mentality at play here. Why would someone who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars a year steal $120 worth of merchandize? Is it the thrill of "getting away with it"?

[Abe Sargent]

I really don't get the mentality at play here. Why would someone who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars a year steal $120 worth of merchandize? Is it the thrill of "getting away with it"?

Maybe you are just used ot getting away with stuff like this in high school or college?

[Vince, Pt. II]

It happens in other fields as well. I've had several co-workers fired for energy theft from our company. They're saving themselves a hundred, maybe a little more per month with the theft, and they lose an incredibly well-paying job with incredible benefits. People are stupid.

[BillJasper]

I'll trade Joe Philbin for Rex Ryan, right this minute!

[gstelmack]

So in the realm of player safety, Burfict gets $25K for trying to end the seasons of two Carolina starters (ankle twisting after a play was over, in one case actually grabbing the ankle after the tackle to do the twist, both caught on video).

The players are so hypocritical on the player safety issue, and the NFL should have suspended him if they really wanted to stop this stuff.

[DaddyTorgo]

So in the realm of player safety, Burfict gets $25K for trying to end the seasons of two Carolina starters (ankle twisting after a play was over, in one case actually grabbing the ankle after the tackle to do the twist, both caught on video).

The players are so hypocritical on the player safety issue, and the NFL should have suspended him if they really wanted to stop this stuff.

This. Should definitely be a separate suspension for each offense.

[Blackadar]

This. Should definitely be a separate suspension for each offense.

I agree. This was blatant and dangerous. Should have been minimum a $50,000 fine ($25k for each offense) and probably should have been a game suspension.

[Radii]

Glad to see others agreeing with that, it seriously pissed me off, but I always wonder if I'm overreacting b/c its my team. It is really fucking absurd that Burfict will be playing next week.

[Lathum]

Glad to see others agreeing with that, it seriously pissed me off, but I always wonder if I'm overreacting b/c its my team. It is really fucking absurd that Burfict will be playing next week.

Just asked 3 different coworkers, all big Bengals fans, all said 100% he should be playing next week. lol.

[Butter]

I guess I'll be the first Bengal fan to weigh in. The ankle twisting was a dick move. I don't think he could've complained about being suspended.

But calling the hit on Benjamin "head-hunting" is probably over the top. I watched that a couple of times and don't see it.

Blackadar is about the last person that should be commenting though, considering his "woe is us" talk about the many Steeler fines and suspensions over the years.