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EagleFan
02-05-2015, 11:43 PM
We need a rebirth of werewolf, or it will be forever relegated to the back pages of FOFC history books. I am going to make one last try to get that to happen. Hopefully with a fun and stimulating game for all.


The Setting

You are the first settlers that have successfully made the trip to Mars. Your supplies have made it ahead of you, along with some of the supplies from the previously doomed mission; a tragic story of a landing pod that lost communication as they were descending towards the planet's surface, the last transmission was that of blood curdling screams.

Despite the negative press that received, you have volunteered for the second attempt. You all want to be heroes, for your own personal reasons, but to truly become heroes you need to set your egos aside and work together to create your own society.

First you must get the living quarters powered and establish the solar collectors that will provide unlimited power (that is what you have been told at least). Then you need to get the greenhouse pod working so that you can have a supply of food that you can replenish into the future.

Before that, you will need to decide what jobs will be handed out and who will get those jobs and titles. While everyone wants to be in charge, only one can be, or failure will be swift.

Will your society flourish, will it fail because you can't get along, will you find out what happened to the first group of settlers, will you survive...


(Added 2/6) The direction of this game will be dictated by the players. There are set triggered events which will steer the story and ultimate goals may change based upon these events. Be clear, those triggered events will be triggered by players actions so ultimately where this leads is all about what the players do. Everyone will start the game with a set of abilities and their own choice of which set of goals they want to work to achieve. One set it purely selfish while the other set is selfless and focuses on the colony.


(Added 2/11) Day zero will be 2/17. On Monday, 2/16 I will send out the player details. See the rules section for what player details will b given to each player as each player will have their own strengths and weaknesses which will assist the group in their attempt to create a community. They will be randomly assigned to each player. Each player will have a decision to make on what goal they would like to have.

EagleFan
02-05-2015, 11:44 PM
Rules

General

- Nightly Deadlines will be 10 PM EST. Day Zero will be 2/17.

- Any voting, or action must be submitted by the deadline. Timestamp 10:00 counts, timestamp of 10:01 is late.

- Voting and actions must be bolded and set apart from the rest of a post. Doesn't have to be in their own post but keep it so it stands out (don't put it in the middle of a sentence or have it sandwiched with other sentences above and below, have it at the beginning of a post with a blank line between any other discussion).

Bad
I say vote EagleFan because I think he is evil.

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blah blah blah.... I think he is bad, evil reincarnated...
vote EagleFan
So have I told you about my day, that EagleFan ruined with his pure evil desire to crush our freedoms and rule the world?


Good
vote EagleFan

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vote EagleFan

I think that he needs to go because...


- No getting personal, it's a game, let's keep it light and fun. That doesn't mean there can't be needling and gamesmanship but keep it about the game. You can say, I think that so and so is bad because he is playing the game in a manner that I don't think a good player would. You can't say, I think so and so is bad because he has deflated balls.


Objectives

- Work together to build a way to survive on Mars.

- If trouble breaks out.... SURVIVE

- (other objectives will be revealed as the story develops)


Items

- Items will be revealed as the story progresses. Each may have an obvious use though some may have hidden uses, or cause unforeseen consequences.

- When a player gains an object they will be told of the limitations and how to use (though may not be told of any unforeseen consequences).


PM Rights

- Only players who are specifically told that they will have PM rights will have PM rights until they are told otherwise.


Player Abilities

- All players will have abilities to help the colony survive.

- They will include: Medical, Engineering, Physical, Scientific

- All players will have one goal assigned to them, that will be based upon their attributes: Get a medical facility running, get a bio-dome functioning to generate source of food for the colony, establish a working system of government, establish a scientific research facility

- All players ill have their own personal goals: become the leader of the colony, ensure your field of interest gets the most effort, explore the surface of the planet as you feel there are mysteries out there that could be a source of great power, other more cynical goals..... (cue evil laughter)


Day Zero

- Elect a leader.

- Elect a primary doctor.

- Elect a primary engineer.

- Elect a Sherriff.

- Elect a primary scientist

EagleFan
02-05-2015, 11:44 PM
Roles

Leader - The elected leader of the colony, the leader will guide the colony as they try to build a civilization... for as long as they allow him (or her).

Doctor - The main medical provider of the colony. Get hurt, go to the doctor.

Engineer - The primary engineer for the colony. Will make decisions about the ongoing engineering projects, or for fixing broken systems.

Scientist - The primary scientist will decide what needs to be researched and what can be created.

Sherriff - The law of the colony. Will try to keep the peace, or maybe enforce "laws" with an iron fist.


Items

Solar Collectors - Will be automatically built on day zero. They help power your society. Protect them.

Communication Equipment - Allows communication with earth when working. Can receive important information from headquarters.

Passenger Manifest - Shows the list of passengers, and some details about them.

Gun - Harmless without bullets, but with them...

Tazer - Can help if attacked

EagleFan
02-05-2015, 11:44 PM
Signup List

1) Autumn - Chief of Staff at Boston General resigned due to scandal (killed night 8)
2) Chief Rum - ER nurse with tragedy in life (killed day 7)
3) The Jackal - MIT Engineering Professor involved in sex scandal (duked to day 10)
4) britrock88 - cop suspended for brutality / Cunning Seeker of Truth (brutal kill day 9)
5) Suicane75 - retired politician involved in a bribery scandal / Cunning member of Resistance (killed night 9)
6) Schmidty - reality star with sex tape scandal (killed day 2)
7) fontisian - history professor forcing students to pay for grades / Brutal leader of Resistance (killed day 9)
8) ntndeacon - EMT that had identity stolen (killed night 11)
9) Thomkal - Retired army general with questionable past
10) timmae - blogger accused of identity theft (killed night 9)
11) Grover - astronaut with a hidden dark side / Angel of Mercy (lynched day 12)
12) JAG - high school football coach fired for cheating (killed day 7)
13) saldana - city planner in a pay to play scandal (lynched day 8)
14) GoldenEagle - computer programmer accused of being a hacker / member of Truth Seekers with duke ability (killed night 10)
15) DanGarion - cult leader / leader of the Truth Seekers with Brutal ability (killed day 10)
16) Raven - farmer who lost his daughter to a cult (killed night 10) - achieved major win condition
17) Danny - bioengineer with ethics issues (killed day 4)
18) Shoveler - construction worker that was a mafia hitman
19) Zinto - CEO with insider trading accustation / member of The resistance with cunning ability (lynched day 11)
20) Narcizo - chemist turned drug dealer (killed day 11)
21) SharkN20 - professional gamer accused of fraud (killed day 10)
22) CrimsonFox - Russian spy, stowaway (lynched day 9) - met win condition


Storyline
Day Zero Beegins (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3000454&postcount=90)
The 21 Mars Colonists (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3000458&postcount=92)
Look at that (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3000783&postcount=291)
We salute you (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3000864&postcount=349)
Prepare for landing (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3000962&postcount=425)
Descending into hell (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001123&postcount=535)
Day Zero Election Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001241&postcount=642)
The Landing (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001248&postcount=647)
Time to Check In (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001255&postcount=651)
Day One Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001767&postcount=979)
That Noise (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001770&postcount=981)
Day Two Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001771&postcount=982)
Tragedy Strikes (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3001858&postcount=1033)
What Was That?!? (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3002129&postcount=1169)
Day Two Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3002330&postcount=1286)
Day Three Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3002336&postcount=1291)
Day Three Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3002719&postcount=1530)
Day Four Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3002723&postcount=1532)
Tragedy Again (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3002730&postcount=1535)
Day Four Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003325&postcount=1693)
It Crackles to Life (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003327&postcount=1694)
Day Five Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003330&postcount=1697)
Please Just Stay Alive (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003332&postcount=1699)
Urgent Request (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003586&postcount=1818)
The Headaches Return (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003779&postcount=1937)
Martial Law Declared (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003788&postcount=1944)
Day Five Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003799&postcount=1950)
Day Six Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3003801&postcount=1952)
Tension In The Air (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004234&postcount=2170)
Day Six Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004257&postcount=2190)
The Voices Return (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004322&postcount=2228)
Seal the Pod (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004323&postcount=2229)
The Trial/Day Seven Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004898&postcount=2585)
Night Seven Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004928&postcount=2602)
Day Eight Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3004943&postcount=2607)
Day Eight Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3005397&postcount=2823)
Day Eight Early Evening Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3005403&postcount=2825)
Night Eight Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3005405&postcount=2826)
Day Nine Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3005409&postcount=2828)
Bloodbath Ensues (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3005503&postcount=2862)
Day Nine Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006324&postcount=3219)
Day Nine Early Evening (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006327&postcount=3220)
Night Nine Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006333&postcount=3222)
Day Ten Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006338&postcount=3224)
Day Ten Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006823&postcount=3506)
Day Ten Early Evening (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006829&postcount=3510)
Night Ten Results (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006832&postcount=3512)
Day Eleven Options (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006835&postcount=3514)
Tragedy Strikes (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3006885&postcount=3536)

The Jackal
02-06-2015, 06:22 AM
I can do a start of 2/17 but nothing sooner

saldana
02-06-2015, 08:45 AM
waiting to see the rules...

anxiously waiting....

make with the rules already, will ya!

EagleFan
02-06-2015, 03:26 PM
Added more details.

EagleFan
02-06-2015, 03:28 PM
I can do a start of 2/17 but nothing sooner

2/17 sounds like a great start date to be honest. It allows plenty of time to recruit (I don't want a 10 player game, I want a large return, maybe a little too optimistic) and it keeps the Valentines weekend out of the mix for anyone with plans for that time.

Autumn
02-06-2015, 04:00 PM
Love it. I'm in.

Chief Rum
02-06-2015, 04:01 PM
Sure, I'm down.

britrock88
02-06-2015, 06:51 PM
n

Suicane75
02-06-2015, 10:39 PM
In

Barkeep49
02-07-2015, 09:18 PM
Cool ruleset. Not sure if I have time to play.

Schmidty
02-08-2015, 07:54 PM
I'll be in, but I tend to always forget I'm in a games, so please take that as a warning....

Schmidty
02-08-2015, 08:16 PM
Bumping so this on top.

britrock88
02-09-2015, 09:03 AM
I'll be in, but I tend to always forget I'm in a games, so please take that as a warning....

Permission for everyone to PM you on D1? ;)

Schmidty
02-09-2015, 12:14 PM
Permission for everyone to PM you on D1? ;)

But of course!!!

fontisian
02-09-2015, 09:32 PM
I'll play.

ntndeacon
02-10-2015, 09:20 AM
I don't know how much time I will have but I will try to play.

Thomkal
02-10-2015, 09:32 AM
I have decided to "unretire" for this game, so now every former WW player has to play :)

EagleFan
02-10-2015, 11:03 AM
Welcome. Going to try to get more players. Would like this closer to 20 to really get it flowing.

timmae
02-10-2015, 11:11 AM
Haven't participated in one of these... what are the prerequisites? If a pulse and a high school education count I am in.

Grover
02-10-2015, 12:09 PM
In.

EagleFan
02-10-2015, 12:26 PM
Haven't participated in one of these... what are the prerequisites? If a pulse and a high school education count I am in.

Sounds like you meet the requirements. :)

timmae
02-10-2015, 12:44 PM
I'm in... please be gentle. Ha!

JAG
02-10-2015, 01:18 PM
In.

Chief Rum
02-10-2015, 03:55 PM
Good group so far!

EagleFan
02-10-2015, 06:50 PM
Yes, would love to at least get us to 16 but a 20+ could make this really fun (I hope everyone sees it as that when it is done :)).

saldana
02-11-2015, 07:32 AM
im in

GoldenEagle
02-11-2015, 11:02 AM
I am in.

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 12:13 PM
Still pushing for more but 14 is getting close to a good number.

Will add more details today to the first couple posts.

Poli
02-11-2015, 02:21 PM
#excited

DanGarion
02-11-2015, 02:43 PM
Yo Yo Yo! I'm in.

Haven't done WW for a long time, but I'm familiar with the concept, we play lots of "The Resistance" and Bang on game nights.

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 02:57 PM
Welcome!!!!

15 and counting.

britrock88
02-11-2015, 03:11 PM
:party:

Raven
02-11-2015, 06:43 PM
I'll play. Haven't done one of these in years

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 06:55 PM
Welcome. We're getting a decent size now. Still hoping for 20+. :)

timmae
02-11-2015, 07:31 PM
I was hoping for a few more newb's so I don't feel so lost...

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 07:35 PM
We'll make sure you're not lost.

Danny
02-11-2015, 09:28 PM
I'll play

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 09:35 PM
Welcome!

Shoveler
02-11-2015, 09:36 PM
I'm in.. another noob.

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 09:36 PM
Also Welcome!

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 09:37 PM
Up to 18 people, this is very promising.

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 09:37 PM
Anyone up for running a game after this one is done? See if we can keep the momentum going?

Zinto
02-11-2015, 10:29 PM
I am in

EagleFan
02-11-2015, 11:08 PM
Welcome

Lathum
02-12-2015, 05:47 AM
have fun boys

Narcizo
02-13-2015, 03:08 PM
I'd like to play blahblahblah time trouble.

Narcizo
02-13-2015, 03:09 PM
So that means I'm in.

EagleFan
02-13-2015, 03:12 PM
Welcome!!!

Autumn
02-14-2015, 08:22 AM
Wow, this filled in since I last checked!

EagleFan
02-14-2015, 10:20 AM
Reminder that the game starts Tuesday with day zero. I will close out sign ups Monday and send out player bios at that point.

Sharkn20
02-15-2015, 09:21 AM
How can I join? ?

EagleFan
02-15-2015, 09:43 AM
You want you in?

Sharkn20
02-15-2015, 04:13 PM
You want you in?

Sure man!

But I donīt know what game have I to buy! Let me know please! I love rol games!

Zinto
02-15-2015, 09:35 PM
Sure man!

But I donīt know what game have I to buy! Let me know please! I love rol games!

No need to buy a game it is all on the forum. I would recommend reading an old game and the werewolf basics post.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 12:38 AM
Started putting together the stats and bios for the players. Will send them out tomorrow (taking a lot to prepare; hope I didn't get too ambitious).

The Day zero deadline will be 10 PM EST on Tuesday. I should get everything out in the AM tomorrow to give day zero a day and a half of discussion.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 02:46 AM
I'M IN the mood for a melody
I'M IN the mood for a melody
I'M IN the moo-ooo-oood
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C_ovBLiYfEs/TyLPuigwNaI/AAAAAAAAAxM/Ovw_gQ2H6dQ/s1600/Robert%2BPlant.jpg

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 03:47 AM
22 players. Will start sending out details once I wake up.

The Jackal
02-16-2015, 05:16 AM
Dang, nice turnout!

Autumn
02-16-2015, 06:13 AM
You definitely got too ambitious, but I'm pumped.

Sharkn20
02-16-2015, 06:59 AM
22 players. Will start sending out details once I wake up.

Am I counted? :) I definitely want to play!

ntndeacon
02-16-2015, 07:19 AM
Your name is on the list on page one, Shark. :) Welcome and enjoy!

timmae
02-16-2015, 07:26 AM
Let's get ready to rumble!!

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:06 AM
I want to fly with the Eagle, til i'm free
Fly with the eagle fan the werewolves carry me
I want to fly with the eagle, let it be
vote off everyone.... bloop bloop bloop bloop
http://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads/monthly_07_2010/post-37737-1278594246.jpg

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 08:09 AM
Read through a previous game, so I think I have a decent idea about how this works. Should be fun.

Grover
02-16-2015, 08:20 AM
No idea what I'm doing, but looking forward to it!

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:28 AM
:banana:

timmae
02-16-2015, 09:37 AM
As a newb reading through the old games I am utterly confused as to the skill needed for the different roles. I'll need to learn this thing quick... this will be fun!

Autumn
02-16-2015, 09:39 AM
My guess is that looking at the Spawn game would be the best research for this game, it also had the mechanics of having to get work done and people holding different positions.

Poli
02-16-2015, 11:20 AM
I'm excited to see this get going.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 11:47 AM
Sorry, a couple issues this morning. Will start sending out your bios in about an hour.

britrock88
02-16-2015, 12:02 PM
Foxy! :D

timmae
02-16-2015, 12:09 PM
My guess is that looking at the Spawn game would be the best research for this game, it also had the mechanics of having to get work done and people holding different positions.

Researching the Spawn 1 2005 thread right now. Like complexity much?! Yikes. :)

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 12:29 PM
My guess is that looking at the Spawn game would be the best research for this game, it also had the mechanics of having to get work done and people holding different positions.


New Player: This WAR thing is very complicated.
Autumn: Yes it is. I suggest you read War and Peace by Tolstoy.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 12:46 PM
Going to start sending out bios. Then I will post a start of game post and it will be game on.

This will be different from normal werewolf, but depending on the choices made by the players it will depend on how the game plays out (and what type of game it becomes).

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 12:49 PM
I sent Schmidty a FB message to remind him. Others can feel free to remind him as well. :)

JAG
02-16-2015, 01:04 PM
I'M IN the mood for a melody
I'M IN the mood for a melody
I'M IN the moo-ooo-oood
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C_ovBLiYfEs/TyLPuigwNaI/AAAAAAAAAxM/Ovw_gQ2H6dQ/s1600/Robert%2BPlant.jpg

It's like there's a hidden message or something here...

Good to see you. :)

JAG
02-16-2015, 01:06 PM
My guess is that looking at the Spawn game would be the best research for this game, it also had the mechanics of having to get work done and people holding different positions.

And I still signed up despite those painful memories.

JAG
02-16-2015, 01:06 PM
New Player: This WAR thing is very complicated.
Autumn: Yes it is. I suggest you read War and Peace by Tolstoy.

I laughed.

This should be fun.

Raven
02-16-2015, 01:25 PM
I just went back and reread the only WW game I played in. That happened to be WW5 (nearly 10 years ago).

I remember that game being a lot of fun, and am looking forward to this one

JAG
02-16-2015, 01:33 PM
I'm looking forward to playing with folks I haven't yet too, welcome or welcome back as the case may be.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 01:44 PM
Let's get to Mars man!

Grover
02-16-2015, 01:48 PM
Let's get to Mars man!

http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1413706054l/18007564.jpg

timmae
02-16-2015, 02:02 PM
http://nicekicks.com/wp/files/2011/07/03044801-620x398.jpg

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:07 PM
I have sent out the roles, everyone should have received a PM. Please let me know if you didn't get anything.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:11 PM
Background

The second attempt to colonize Mars is underway. The first ended in tragedy. It is believed that the first colony shuttle crashed when landing, but no one knows exactly. They were landing, there was screaming, there was silence. The assumption is all died.

Supplies have been sent ahead to help get you started on building your society. It is possible that extra supplies can be found, the supplies sent for the first attempt.

The trip has been long and you have been revived from your induced coma which kept you stable for the trip. It is time to get down to business.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:12 PM
Quick details. Anything that is in purple is story related. Anything that is in red is GM related. It will be results, or requests for action, or just answers to questions.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:14 PM
It has begun

Day zero has begun. You have the following actions to achieve as you are in your final decent towards Mars.

1) Elect a leader
2) Elect a primary doctor
3) Elect a primary scientist
4) Elect a primary engineer
5) Elect a Sherriff
6) Decide what you will work on when you first arrive (government, biodome, scientific research center, medical center)

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:15 PM
Do not reveal your actual numbers for your skills. You may reveal your biography, as much as you feel comfortable. Everyone may have a secret that they do not want to get out so it is up to you what you reveal of your character.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:17 PM
The 21 Mars Colonists

News is widespread around earth of the 21 Mars colonists that will start a new society. Everyone is celebrating on board as you prepare to land but someone mentions something odd.

"The reports are of 21 colonists... there are 22 of us..."

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:18 PM
The Bull Moose Special

One other color text will appear, blue. That will be this game's version of the bull moose special. An event that has been triggered by colonist actions.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 02:20 PM
I highly suggest that we start getting the biodome going, without food we have no chance for survival and nothing else is going to matter.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:21 PM
Game On

Day zero deadline is 10 PM EST.

For the decisions please make your votes in one post (all votes). If you wish to change a vote , repost your votes and highlight the unvote and revote change.

Example:


Leader EagleFan
Scientist SkyDog
Engineer Wignasty
Sherriff jbmagic
Doctor Hornsmaniac
Project Biodome

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:22 PM
For the new players, there is another rule that I may not have mentioned. No editing of posts.

Raven
02-16-2015, 02:23 PM
I expect we'll be here for awhile, so our primary goals should be food, shelter, and a wifi connection so I can Candy Crush.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 02:24 PM
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

timmae
02-16-2015, 02:33 PM
The 22nd must be a "non-colonist"... threat maybe? Food and water will be critical. Maybe quick search for previous landing attempt to seek clues as to what occurred? Screaming could have been something other than a crash and burn.

Grover
02-16-2015, 02:35 PM
We need a Biodome first and foremost. A Government, Research Center and Medical Center are all fantastic, but we must have the means of proper shelter and a cultivated food source if we're going to survive longer than our predecessors.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 02:36 PM
Glad we are all on the same page.

Autumn
02-16-2015, 02:39 PM
I think clearly we're going to need a lot of things, but starting with a biodome seems the most sensible, assuming that means creating a safe living environment that might produce food and water. Can't imagine we can do without that.

For leader, not knowing anything about characters in the game, I'm going to nominate JAG. He was the best at getting us organized in the Spawn game, and I think he is perfect for the job.

I will put my name out for medical officer, as that is my specialty back on earth.

timmae
02-16-2015, 02:42 PM
Post 1 instructions from EF...

"First you must get the living quarters powered and establish the solar collectors that will provide unlimited power (that is what you have been told at least). Then you need to get the greenhouse pod working so that you can have a supply of food that you can replenish into the future."

That is what you have been told at least.

Has to be a clue, right? I certainly have some scientific background and can try to pinpoint if a solar collector could provide energy or not. Something must if we are to produce anything.. including water or food.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 02:43 PM
Didn't realize that we are making our decisions based upon previous games...

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 02:46 PM
I've had experience with leading large groups of successful people back on earth, which is why I decided to come to Mars and help lead colonization.

Grover
02-16-2015, 02:52 PM
I spent two years as an engineer on the ISS. I'm willing to handle the engineering aspects of our projects.

Raven
02-16-2015, 02:54 PM
I agree that establishing the BioDome should be our priority. Without food we won't be able to sustain ourselves. We can probably sleep on the ship until food source is established, so shelter is at least temporarily in place.

Seems DanGarion, Grover, Autumn and I are in agreement on BioDome, so far?

Zinto
02-16-2015, 03:00 PM
I am going to throw my hat into the ring to be the leader. I ran one of the most successful companies back on Earth. I have the experience and the ability to manage personalities while making sure things run smoothly and effectively.

I am Zinto and I approve this message.

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 03:06 PM
For the sake of argument, I believe we should consider the biodome as a secondary task. We have supplies on us already, and it is highly likely that we will find necessary supplies from the first crew. A surplus of supplies will not make our colony successful.

What we do not have is a system of governing ourselves once we have landed. I strongly feel that establishing the government should be our number one priority. Without this we may find ourselves falling into chaos.

With that being said, I would like to toss my name into the fold for Sheriff. You, my fellow crewmates, did not know me on Earth, but I have countless years of experience enforcing justice.

timmae
02-16-2015, 03:16 PM
Shoveler... I agree on a quick form of government so that we can proceed with the colony. Leaders will go a long way to start that process and maybe enough to have some cohesion in place. Great thought!

We are not sure on how long our supplies will last... we should have some contingencies in place. Seeing no scientists yet I can volunteer my services for that role. My life on earth was spent in the scientific field.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 03:18 PM
I'd much rather be safe than sorry. We don't know if we will find the food from the previous mission and having a excess of supplies and food is much safer for the whole than running out of food while we deal with other tasks that could have waited.

Grover
02-16-2015, 03:21 PM
Shoveler, to counterpoint: Sure we have supplies, but don't you want a little personal space?

Also, how likely is it that we will get to the first crew? How far away is their landing site? I don't think we're in a position to make an excursion before we're safely in a living space. We all probably need to decompress a little bit before we get going.

Once we establish our Biodome, I think we can easily set up the ranks of leadership and go from there. I feel strongly about going headstrong from our new location to our predecessor's location without knowing their fate. Do we wish to go there and suffer the same fate as them? Let's set up a home, set up our heirarchy and then plan an excursion.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:23 PM
Poor some leader on meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

Zinto
02-16-2015, 03:26 PM
Poor some leader on meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

Hahha I missed your posts CF

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 03:27 PM
General Thomkal here:

Greetings men. I look forward to working with you to establish mankind's presence on this brave new world. For that we need to provide for our own security and safety-since we do not know yet what has befallen the first mission to this planet. Tasks that accomplish that should be our first priorities. I suggest everyone inform us of what areas they can help the most with and then form groups to work on these priorities.

I am well suited to working with a diverse group of personalities and backgrounds given my military experience and leadership skills. I am eager to make the acquaintance of any current/former members of the armed services with us now as I know what skills you bring to the table already.

Zinto
02-16-2015, 03:29 PM
I agree with Mr. Shoveler. A government can take us on a strong and stable path. We already have the supplies needed to survive for a time and after we have the proper structure we can focus on providing good infrastructure for our colony.

Raven
02-16-2015, 03:30 PM
We may indeed find food supplies from the first crew, but when? We do not know the location of that ship - it may even take months to discover. Even if we do find it, we have no idea what remains of it. If there is no food there, then what? We're not prepared to venture out until we know we have adequate supplies.

Suicane75
02-16-2015, 03:31 PM
I too think we should focus on the biodome first.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:31 PM
I spent two years as an engineer on the ISS. I'm willing to handle the engineering aspects of our projects.

You spent two years working for ISIS?
That place is nuts. YOu did it with Pam Poovey didn't you!

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/cosplay-archer-pam-poovey-02.jpg

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:35 PM
I too think we should focus on the biodome first.

I'm hungry like something that isn't a wolf.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:37 PM
Post 1 instructions from EF...

"First you must get the living quarters powered and establish the solar collectors that will provide unlimited power (that is what you have been told at least). Then you need to get the greenhouse pod working so that you can have a supply of food that you can replenish into the future."

That is what you have been told at least.

Has to be a clue, right? I certainly have some scientific background and can try to pinpoint if a solar collector could provide energy or not. Something must if we are to produce anything.. including water or food.

If this is a quote from your mailbox please do not do that. It will probably hurt you if you do. It's usually against the rules and most stuff like that you probably want to keep secret for your own good.

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 03:38 PM
I accept that I have sacrificed the little things in life to be a part of this colonization mission. Lack of personal space in these first days on the new planet is something small and easily overcome.

As for the first crew, they crashed during landing, we all know this. Once we have successfully touched down on the planet we cannot face the same fate as the first mission. Regardless of the distance, we have a known location for supplies which I believe will close to double our current stockpile. Everything they brought with them should be available to us assuming it survived the crash.

A biodome is important, I will concede that point, but without a system of governance we may run into pressing matters that we are not fit to handle in our present state.

Suicane75
02-16-2015, 03:38 PM
I'm hungry like something that isn't a wolf.

A hippo?

timmae
02-16-2015, 03:38 PM
If this is a quote from your mailbox please do not do that. It will probably hurt you if you do. It's usually against the rules and most stuff like that you probably want to keep secret for your own good.

sorry... quote from post 1 of this thread. Should have quoted it some other way maybe. My bad.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:40 PM
I accept that I have sacrificed the little things in life to be a part of this colonization mission. Lack of personal space in these first days on the new planet is something small and easily overcome.

As for the first crew, they crashed during landing, we all know this. Once we have successfully touched down on the planet we cannot face the same fate as the first mission. Regardless of the distance, we have a known location for supplies which I believe will close to double our current stockpile. Everything they brought with them should be available to us assuming it survived the crash.

A biodome is important, I will concede that point, but without a system of governance we may run into pressing matters that we are not fit to handle in our present state.

We need to attract Pauly Shore. Then we win.

We need this.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/BioDomeposter.jpg

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 03:41 PM
If this is a quote from your mailbox please do not do that. It will probably hurt you if you do. It's usually against the rules and most stuff like that you probably want to keep secret for your own good.

He was quoting Post #1

Raven
02-16-2015, 03:42 PM
If this is a quote from your mailbox please do not do that. It will probably hurt you if you do. It's usually against the rules and most stuff like that you probably want to keep secret for your own good.

He is quoting EagleFan - public post #1 in this thread.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:44 PM
who was he quoting? I don't understand.

Poli
02-16-2015, 03:47 PM
The Bull Moose Special

One other color text will appear, blue. That will be this game's version of the bull moose special. An event that has been triggered by colonist actions.

YOU SON OF A GUN.

timmae
02-16-2015, 03:47 PM
Items 1 through 5 first maybe... seems like we have a lot of conversation on item 6. Item 1 may help that a bit.

1. Elect a leader.
JAG? DanGarion? Zinto?
2. Elect a primary doctor.
Autumn?
3. Elect a primary scientist.
Timmae?
4. Elect a primary engineer.
Grover?
5. Elect a Sherriff.
Shoveler?

Raven
02-16-2015, 03:50 PM
who was he quoting? I don't understand.

CrimsonFox, go back and read your comment to Timmae in post 121. You thought he was posting something from his PMs, but he was not. He was quoting EagleFan's public post (found in post #1)

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 03:51 PM
who was he quoting? I don't understand.

Are you participating in this game or not?

Grover
02-16-2015, 03:52 PM
I'm willing to throw my hat in for the leader vote as well. I've already lived in space for two years, I know what it takes to survive in this element. I've got some priorities that have been shared with other members in: DanGarion, Raven, Suicane75 and Autumn.

timmae
02-16-2015, 03:52 PM
lol, I love this game already! You guys are the breast!

Grover
02-16-2015, 03:53 PM
Those priorities, obviously, being to build a BioDome before we a) take unprepared trips to Crash Site A, b) build a government.

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 03:55 PM
Autumn, you're a doctor?

JAG
02-16-2015, 03:56 PM
I think we don't have enough information to know the optimal route. Let's say we crank out the bio dome right away. But then without a system of government the hidden thugs among us (suspicion of one non-colonist at least) takes the extra food and there is no system to punish them properly, among the rest of the chaos that a lack of government could cause. It's possible getting the scientific research going would give us the means of growing twice as much food thanks to improved techniques as well as the other benefits it would provide. We're the other colonists killed off by a plague? Wish we had had that medical facility built.

I personally prefer a non-biodome strategy on the basis that we have at least some supplies to begin (I doubt EF would kill us this quickly) but to improve our efficiency, we need better research and a system of laws, as well as a facility that will let us heal players rather than losing them to injuries.

I'm leaning towards research for now, but I'm also ok with medical or government.

What are we thinking regarding giving some general information out about what tasks we would be good at? On one hand, we don't want to randomly sign people up for leadership roles they would be lousy at based on their skills, but we also don't know the consequences of revealing that information.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:56 PM
CrimsonFox, go back and read your comment to Timmae in post 121. You thought he was posting something from his PMs, but he was not. He was quoting EagleFan's public post (found in post #1)

heh I know I was teasing because 3 people answered. :)

Glad it was that. Mainly I told you because you guys said you were new and needed to know that if you quote things from PMs you might give something away and get killed by others (or the mod)

ntndeacon
02-16-2015, 03:56 PM
I see the need for a biodome... But this is a dangerous place. We need a place to heal or we may face the same fate as the last group. I am also of the medical profession and would be a fine doctor for the group.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 03:57 PM
I'm an automechanic so I can work on the Moon BUggy. Did anyone remember to pack the moonbuggy?

ntndeacon
02-16-2015, 03:59 PM
wouldn't that be a mars buggy?

Raven
02-16-2015, 03:59 PM
I want to throw my hat in the ring for lead scientist. I was a farmer back home and I can lead the job getting the BioDome up and running.

Vote for Raven and all your wildest dreams will come true.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:00 PM
heh I know I was teasing because 3 people answered. :)

Glad it was that. Mainly I told you because you guys said you were new and needed to know that if you quote things from PMs you might give something away and get killed by others (or the mod)

Your efforts don't go unnoticed or unappreciated buggyman!

Suicane75
02-16-2015, 04:01 PM
Doctors always wanna be doctorin

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:01 PM
wouldn't that be a mars buggy?

pffff now that's silly. who ever heard of a mars buggy.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:01 PM
Poli can you be my bartender? I'll pay you 5 cents an hour

Suicane75
02-16-2015, 04:03 PM
Back on earth I was a prominent man in the political community so I'm here to offer any help I can in regards to getting our goverment up and running if that's what we choose to do. But I really think getting a place set up from all other things can spring forth is our best course of action.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:03 PM
1. Elect a leader.
JAG? DanGarion? Zinto? Grover?
2. Elect a primary doctor.
Autumn? ntndeacon?
3. Elect a primary scientist.
Timmae? Raven?
4. Elect a primary engineer.
Grover?
5. Elect a Sherriff.
Shoveler?

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 04:06 PM
I am also in the medical field, which is why I asked Autumn if he is a doctor. I would ask the same of ntndeacon.

I would submit that I am the best person to be the primary doctor.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:13 PM
Anyone else find the text in EF's initial post a tad bit "interesting"? Should we be focusing on power? He mentions it so I am thinking that has a huge role to play. Thoughts?

Form a loose government with the key positions filled and then focus on some kind of power for food production/travel/etc?

ntndeacon
02-16-2015, 04:16 PM
does that mean you are a doctor, Chief?

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:16 PM
Anyone else find the text in EF's initial post a tad bit "interesting"? Should we be focusing on power? He mentions it so I am thinking that has a huge role to play. Thoughts?

Form a loose government with the key positions filled and then focus on some kind of power for food production/travel/etc?

What structure do you believe would provide us with power?

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:19 PM
And by structure I mean which project?

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:19 PM
Because I don't think any of the four provide a clear pick for providing power for us.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:21 PM
What structure do you believe would provide us with power?

EF's original post mentions solar collector's but then the note that "That's what we've been told at least". Seems like that is an interesting phrase to throw in their at the start of the session. I am thinking we won't be able to obtain power from solar rays. Something else may be needed to get power.

or I could just be barking up some crazed tree that EF hangs out in all day.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:23 PM
Because I don't think any of the four provide a clear pick for providing power for us.

Gotcha... you may be right there. I am just trying to find out a way for the colony to survive past impact until we have clear goals. Just caught in the infinite possibilities here...

fontisian
02-16-2015, 04:31 PM
I will also run for Leader.

As a general reminder, though we all have individual goals, if we want to live, it's probably best to place them second to the overall good of the colony.

I agree with JAG on the idea that EF will probably not kill us all off immediately if we chose an option other than Biodome. Government and Scientific Research look like good bets to improve efficiency down the line.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:32 PM
The solar collectors will be part of your automatic day one routine. That was a quote that I forgot to update when I made a couple small changes to the balance. Didn't want to waste a day on what would end up being the only real option.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:36 PM
Aha! The solar collectors are important! Now I've got nothing..

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:38 PM
Skills

Medical - This will be used when trying to heal players, the better the skill of the lead doctor the better the overall success of healing or treating, as well as the combined average of anyone working in that facility

Engineering - The greater the value, the more effective the designs for the various projects

Physical - The greater the number the player will be able to perform physical tasks better

Scientific - The greater the number of the lead scientist, the greater the discoveries, the average of those working in the scientific research facility will be used as well

Social - The greater the number, the higher the likelihood of "influencing" certain votes


Achieving the social goal will allow those players to gain points.

Achieving the personal goal will allow those players to gain abilities.



Also remember, everyone may have a dark secret, and others may know your secret...

JAG
02-16-2015, 04:38 PM
So EF basically admitted there is no 'only' option to pick today, which means they're all viable.

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 04:39 PM
does that mean you are a doctor, Chief?

You're not?

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:40 PM
Scientist: timmae, Raven
Sheriff: SHoveler
Leader: Zinto, CrimsonFox, DanGarion, Grover
Doctor: Autumn, Rum
Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 04:40 PM
So Solar collectors today. Biodome tomorrow. Let's get started!

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:41 PM
Scientist: timmae, Raven
Sheriff: SHoveler
Leader: Zinto, CrimsonFox, DanGarion, Grover, fontisian
Doctor: Autumn, Rum
Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:41 PM
Dearest Modulator, How may we elect said officials? What is the syntax?
How do we go about building our life?

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:42 PM
If anyone else wants to run for position, NOW is the time to say so.


and I nominate general Thomkal for leader and sheriff.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 04:44 PM
If anyone else wants to run for position, NOW is the time to say so.


and I nominate general Thomkal for leader and sheriff.

Really? having the law run the government? That always ends well.... Might as well make him Judge, Jury, and Executioner as well...

fontisian
02-16-2015, 04:44 PM
I'd rather not have Shoveler as Sheriff and would run against him if no one else wanted to.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:45 PM
Thanks for updating the list CF... I am away for a few hours.

Am I correct in thinking our votes are due tomorrow (Tuesday) night? I think so but just in case I'd like to add that I've spent my life studying science and could add quite a bit to scientific research facility. I think with me as lead scientist and Raven working alongside me (his farming background) it could work out very well. Can't wait to hear which others may have scientific background as they check in..

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 04:45 PM
Both Autumn and I have submitted for the Doctor role. I am not sure if ntndeacon is interested in the position, but he said he is a medical profession.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 04:45 PM
Considering there appears to be no skills required to be the sheriff, I'll throw my name in that vote as well, but I think I'm most useful as a leader.

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:45 PM
With the personal and group goals getting rewards I think that you should not throw your name into the ring if you will not get some kind of bonus for being an elected official.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:46 PM
If anyone else wants to run for position, NOW is the time to say so.


and I nominate general Thomkal for leader and sheriff.

Shouldn't we hold on this until everyone has had a chance to check in... we've only been up for a few hours.

Raven
02-16-2015, 04:46 PM
First you must get the living quarters powered and establish the solar collectors that will provide unlimited power (that is what you have been told at least). Then you need to get the greenhouse pod working so that you can have a supply of food that you can replenish into the future.

Before that, you will need to decide what jobs will be handed out and who will get those jobs and titles. While everyone wants to be in charge, only one can be, or failure will be swift.




Day Zero

- Elect a leader.

- Elect a primary doctor.

- Elect a primary engineer.

- Elect a Sherriff.

- Elect a primary scientist

I think we are supposed to elect people to each position before we do anything else.

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:47 PM
And I think that we should also be mindful of making sure that the people pushing certain group goals get tracked. We will want to know who our most skillful community members are

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:47 PM
Game On

Day zero deadline is 10 PM EST.

For the decisions please make your votes in one post (all votes). If you wish to change a vote , repost your votes and highlight the unvote and revote change.

Example:


Leader EagleFan
Scientist SkyDog
Engineer Wignasty
Sherriff jbmagic
Doctor Hornsmaniac
Project Biodome


To answer CF's question about how to elect.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 04:48 PM
Shouldn't we hold on this until everyone has had a chance to check in... we've only been up for a few hours.

...and when they check in they will see they should say something. :)
it's not like we're holding elections RIGHT NOW. we don't even know how to?

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:49 PM
I think we are supposed to elect people to each position before we do anything else.

Yes. For Day zero, elect the primary positions and determine your first project. The solar collectors will be automatically done without need for vote for them.

What happens Day 1 will be determined by your day zero votes. :)

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:49 PM
Darn... se we need to vote for a goal prior to having a leader. This will be interesting.

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:51 PM
It must be freakin' hilarious running these things, lol... seeing all of us banter about stuff that could be worthwhile knowing most of it is garbage. Darn you EF!!

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:53 PM
To clarify. You don't have to elect everyone on day zero but that will cause a ripple effect.

Example: if you don't have a leader, any work will be less organized and less efficient. If you don't have an engineer but want to build something the results may not be good. If you don't elect a primary doctor and someone is injured the process of treating that person. IF you don't pick a project, well... then you may deserve to drift away into space... :)

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:55 PM
So it is in our best interest to make sure we have all the roles filled.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:56 PM
Also, if you decide to say, not elect one of the positions but if someone sneaks a vote in for that position today, that would be the only vote counted and would mean the person voted for would get that position.

So how much do you trust everyone? :D

Zinto
02-16-2015, 04:58 PM
I am completely against not voting for every position. I think it is counterproductive to us setting up a great colony.

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 04:58 PM
I apologize for the day zero confusion but once we get past this the decisions will be fewer for each day. (Like do you crate a new facility for research, fix the solar collector or explore the surface looking for the supplies from the first landing attempt)

Those were just examples, not hints or saying they would be exact choices

timmae
02-16-2015, 04:59 PM
I am completely against not voting for every position. I think it is counterproductive to us setting up a great colony.

+1

fontisian
02-16-2015, 04:59 PM
We should aim to have a different person for each position, to minimize loses if one is bad.

I would also ask CF and Grover to chose to go for either engineer or leader, whichever they think they would be most helpful at.

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 05:11 PM
I'm guessing we all have similar skills listed for us. Which means that there are specific skillsets which seem to have some connection with specific positions.

I would highly recommend if you are not certain what position you wish to submit yourself for, that you review your skills and figure out which one fits best.

I don't want to get more specific, because I am fear I am treading the line of quoting PMs (and only do so because I don't think what I am saying is revealing any deep, dark secret).

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 05:24 PM
Added Two items to the item list.

Autumn
02-16-2015, 05:32 PM
I am also in the medical field, which is why I asked Autumn if he is a doctor. I would ask the same of ntndeacon.

I would submit that I am the best person to be the primary doctor.

Yes, I am not only a doctor but a chief of staff at a large hospital, and so think i can handle the duties of being in charge of medicine on this tiny community. am I the best suited? Well, I obviously can't say that, but I can't see how anyone could be better suited.

Autumn
02-16-2015, 05:37 PM
Because there is not a particular skill associated with Leading, I am less inclined to vote people for that position based on their character, and instead base it on how effective they will be at actually leading this unruly bunch. that is why I suggest JAG, I know he's good at htat kind of thing, it suits his personality. For the other positions I think we need people who are very good at htat skill to put themselves forward.

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 05:49 PM
Because there is not a particular skill associated with Leading, I am less inclined to vote people for that position based on their character, and instead base it on how effective they will be at actually leading this unruly bunch. that is why I suggest JAG, I know he's good at htat kind of thing, it suits his personality. For the other positions I think we need people who are very good at htat skill to put themselves forward.

Well, but keep in mind that, while actual leadership in this thread is one thing, but impactful leadership as defined in the game mechanics is something else. I actually do see a skill that could somewhat tie into the leader, and while JAG might be a great actual leader, if his ability in that skill is poor, it could have a negative effect on any efforts requiring the in-game mechanic of Leadership.

Chief Rum
02-16-2015, 05:51 PM
Yes, I am not only a doctor but a chief of staff at a large hospital, and so think i can handle the duties of being in charge of medicine on this tiny community. am I the best suited? Well, I obviously can't say that, but I can't see how anyone could be better suited.

I'll admit I was not a chief of staff. But I have had a lengthy career working in the high pressure environment of an ER. Your facility running skills may be greater--but I am may be better suited for the types of medical situations we are likely to see.

Raven
02-16-2015, 05:55 PM
Yes, I am not only a doctor but a chief of staff at a large hospital, and so think i can handle the duties of being in charge of medicine on this tiny community. am I the best suited? Well, I obviously can't say that, but I can't see how anyone could be better suited.

Personally, I am far more inclined to vote for someone like this, who is forthcoming with their past experience, than I am to vote for someone who is vague about their job on Earth.

I am skeptical about Chief Rum at this point. He has blatantly asked both Autumn and ntdeacon if they were doctors, but when asked if he too was a doctor, he dodged the question.

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 06:04 PM
For the role of doctor, do we need to consider medical specialty (a general surgeon would be better than a podiatrist) or is that outside the scope of the game?

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 06:05 PM
Because there is not a particular skill associated with Leading, I am less inclined to vote people for that position based on their character, and instead base it on how effective they will be at actually leading this unruly bunch. that is why I suggest JAG, I know he's good at htat kind of thing, it suits his personality. For the other positions I think we need people who are very good at htat skill to put themselves forward.

Have you ever thought the skills we have MIGHT actually assist in leading? I'm just saying you need to look at the game instead of real life. I lead the FOFC Facebook and Reddit pages, seems like I could be just as skilled as him especially since I have no experience with his leadership in other games.

JAG
02-16-2015, 06:06 PM
Based on the new EF info, I would like to throw my hat in the ring for Sherriff. I am fairly confident I could be best among us for that position.

fontisian
02-16-2015, 06:08 PM
I support JAG's bid for sheriff.

I was a college history professor, I get something out of being leader, and I suspect my abilities will be helpful.

JAG
02-16-2015, 06:14 PM
Well, but keep in mind that, while actual leadership in this thread is one thing, but impactful leadership as defined in the game mechanics is something else. I actually do see a skill that could somewhat tie into the leader, and while JAG might be a great actual leader, if his ability in that skill is poor, it could have a negative effect on any efforts requiring the in-game mechanic of Leadership.

I agree, I thought the stats and such were fairly straightforward. Maybe it'll be wrong though. Like maybe a leader in an area needs a decent ability in social to work well with others. The main leader may need to be great in a lot of different areas (maybe a minor benefit to all areas). Head scientist might need points in certain areas to better research them. All just guesses of course, maybe it's straightforward and simple.

Suicane75
02-16-2015, 06:15 PM
I am a retired politician who has a long history of public service. I'm not campaigning for the leadership role, but I am throwing that skill out there.

timmae
02-16-2015, 06:33 PM
I have to wonder if the skills at important for the roles rather than any actions the person may actually contribute. If that is the case then I am thinking I may be best as lead scientist... For what it is worth.

timmae
02-16-2015, 06:33 PM
At equals are.

DanGarion
02-16-2015, 07:10 PM
I support JAG's bid for sheriff.

I was a college history professor, I get something out of being leader, and I suspect my abilities will be helpful.

Great we have a regular ol Tom Mason here!

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:36 PM
Hello, compatriots. Checking in for the evening.

Given the discussion, but lack of voting, I think I should emphasize my (incorrect?) understanding that these leadership positions and our D1 goal need to be decided tonight.

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:38 PM
For the sake of argument, I believe we should consider the biodome as a secondary task. We have supplies on us already, and it is highly likely that we will find necessary supplies from the first crew. A surplus of supplies will not make our colony successful.

What we do not have is a system of governing ourselves once we have landed. I strongly feel that establishing the government should be our number one priority. Without this we may find ourselves falling into chaos.

With that being said, I would like to toss my name into the fold for Sheriff. You, my fellow crewmates, did not know me on Earth, but I have countless years of experience enforcing justice.

I could essentially have made this post, verbatim.

I have law enforcement experience on Earth, and I doubt that there is anyone on this mission that would be better equipped to carry out the sometimes physical nature of enforcing whatever laws we decide upon than myself.

That said, my record isn't perfect, and my physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes. So I would implore the group to 1) focus on constructing government first, 2) electing me as sheriff, and 3) checking my enforcement of the rules we establish.

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:39 PM
wouldn't that be a mars buggy?

But moon buggy rhymes with dune buggy! :p

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:43 PM
I have taken this summary post...

Scientist: timmae, Raven
Sheriff: Shoveler
Leader: Zinto, CrimsonFox, DanGarion, Grover, fontisian
Doctor: Autumn, Rum
Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox

...and subsequent nominations to make the following candidate list.

Scientist: timmae, Raven
Sheriff: Shoveler, Thomkal, DanGarion, JAG, britrock88
Leader: Zinto, CrimsonFox, DanGarion, Grover, fontisian, Thomkal
Doctor: Autumn, Rum
Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:45 PM
Game On

Day zero deadline is 10 PM EST.

For the decisions please make your votes in one post (all votes). If you wish to change a vote , repost your votes and highlight the unvote and revote change.

Example:


Leader EagleFan
Scientist SkyDog
Engineer Wignasty
Sherriff jbmagic
Doctor Hornsmaniac
Project Biodome


Requoting and reordering the candidate list.

Leader: Zinto, CrimsonFox, DanGarion, Grover, fontisian, Thomkal
Scientist: timmae, Raven
Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox
Sheriff: Shoveler, Thomkal, DanGarion, JAG, britrock88
Doctor: Autumn, Rum

Project: government, biodome, scientific research center, medical center

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:46 PM
Leader - CrimsonFox
Scientist - timmae
Engineer - Grover
Sheriff - britrock88
Doctor - Autumn
Project - Government

britrock88
02-16-2015, 07:47 PM
Leader - CrimsonFox
Scientist - timmae
Engineer - Grover
Sheriff - britrock88
Doctor - Autumn
Project - Government

Not much to reason among the candidates at this point; just making choices based on people whose work I am familiar with and avoiding multiple officeholders.

timmae
02-16-2015, 07:50 PM
I think the votes are due Tuesday night at 10pm est... right?

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 07:53 PM
If anyone else wants to run for position, NOW is the time to say so.


and I nominate general Thomkal for leader and sheriff.

In case I didn't make myself clear, my talents lie best in a leadership role, though no doubt I could help with law enforcement as well. So I thank Mr. Crimson Fox for the nomination there.

My primary concerns for us as a group continues to be safety-both in a physical sense-a sheriff chosen and people chosen to patrol the immediate area, and a survival sense-the biodome being constructed as quickly as possible.

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 07:55 PM
I'd rather not have Shoveler as Sheriff and would run against him if no one else wanted to.

May I ask why or did I miss you stating the reason?

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 07:59 PM
Really? having the law run the government? That always ends well.... Might as well make him Judge, Jury, and Executioner as well...

Martial Law has been much needed at times in humanity's history Mr. Dangarion, and may be needed here depending on how events unfold. But no it would not be wise I feel for us to start out that way.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:03 PM
Had a power outage today. Actually for 2 days. Squirrels chewed through wires. :( Caused our furnace and appliances not to work.

anyway fixed now. thankfully cause we're in the midst of a freezing snowstorm

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:05 PM
I have taken this summary post...



...and subsequent nominations to make the following candidate list.

Scientist: timmae, Raven
Sheriff: Shoveler, Thomkal, DanGarion, JAG, britrock88
Leader: Zinto, CrimsonFox, DanGarion, Grover, fontisian, Thomkal
Doctor: Autumn, Rum
Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox

thanks mr rock.
i think i'd like ntndeacon to be nominated for doctor as well if he's got said skillz to pay the medical billz.

britrock88
02-16-2015, 08:05 PM
I think the votes are due Tuesday night at 10pm est... right?

YES. Just rechecked the first page to clarify that Day Zero is tomorrow (rather than Day One).

britrock88
02-16-2015, 08:05 PM
Well, then, let this just be the first time I've been a first voter and give me crap for that. :p

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:07 PM
Really? having the law run the government? That always ends well.... Might as well make him Judge, Jury, and Executioner as well...

how cute,
mr dan doesn't want mashall law on mars.
there must be a punch line in here

at least a song...

When I fight authority, authority always wins...
When I fight authority, authority always wins...

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:09 PM
YES. Just rechecked the first page to clarify that Day Zero is tomorrow (rather than Day One).

meaning our votes for positions yes?
so the other stuff involving what we build affects day one or day zero?

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:11 PM
Leader - CrimsonFox
Scientist - timmae
Engineer - Grover
Sheriff - britrock88
Doctor - Autumn
Project - Government

I shot the....JUST KIDDING!

Zinto
02-16-2015, 08:13 PM
Here is just a quick rundown on players past careers...

Autumn-Chief of Staff
Zinto- CEO
DanGarion- Leading Successful People?
Grover- ISS Engineer
Shoveler- Enforcing Justice?
Timmae- Science Field?
Thomkal- General
Grover- Lived in Space?
NTN- Medical Field?
CF- Auto mechanic?
Raven- Farmer
Suicane- Politician
Chief- ER
Font- History Professor
Brit- Law Enforcement Experience?

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 08:14 PM
Great we have a regular ol Tom Mason here!

:)

He did pretty well as humanity's savior I think.

britrock88
02-16-2015, 08:15 PM
Here is just a quick rundown on players past careers...

Autumn-Chief of Staff
Zinto- CEO
DanGarion- Leading Successful People?
Grover- ISS Engineer
Shoveler- Enforcing Justice?
Timmae- Science Field?
Thomkal- General
Grover- Lived in Space?
NTN- Medical Field?
CF- Auto mechanic?
Raven- Farmer
Suicane- Politician
Chief- ER
Font- History Professor
Brit- Law Enforcement Experience?

Nice work, Zinto. I was a police officer.

Zinto
02-16-2015, 08:15 PM
I will state once again that I would be a very successful leader in these circumstances. I have the ability and the experience to help run a colony.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:16 PM
I will state once again that I would be a very successful leader in these circumstances. I have the ability and the experience to help run a colony.

and I can fix your moonbuggy

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 08:18 PM
I think the votes are due Tuesday night at 10pm est... right?

Yes

Schmidty
02-16-2015, 08:23 PM
Hi there, sexy FOFCers. ;)

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:23 PM
Grover- Lived in Space?


so like, grover is a space monkey?

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 08:24 PM
Leader -
Scientist -
Engineer -
Sheriff -
Doctor - Autumn
Project - Biodome

Zinto
02-16-2015, 08:25 PM
so like, grover is a space monkey?


Hahah I guess. Also, I have no idea if you are joking about being a mechanic or not so you got a question mark too!

JAG
02-16-2015, 08:28 PM
how cute,
mr dan doesn't want mashall law on mars.
there must be a punch line in here

at least a song...

When I fight authority, authority always wins...
When I fight authority, authority always wins...

I fought the law and the law won.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:29 PM
So that I don't forget...

Scientist: timmae
Sheriff: Thomkal
Leader: CrimsonFox
Doctor: ntndeacon
Engineer: Grover
Project: Pauly Sh--I mean Biodome

JAG
02-16-2015, 08:30 PM
Hello, compatriots. Checking in for the evening.

Given the discussion, but lack of voting, I think I should emphasize my (incorrect?) understanding that these leadership positions and our D1 goal need to be decided tonight.

I wanted to hear from everyone if possible, as otherwise there are some folks that wouldn't be up for a vote, if it would be helpful. Schmidt and Danny haven't offered themselves anywhere, not sure if I missed anyone else.

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 08:31 PM
I voted for Autumn, because his experience as a chief of staff mirrors mine as a general very much I think. A lot of leadership skill, knowledge in many different fields, ability to discipline fairly when called for, etc. I would be looking to vote for people in the other areas with similar qualities as well. So I think it would helpful for those running for a position to be specific about what position(s) they held on Earth if at all possible.

QUESTION FOR EF:

ARE WE ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR OURSELF FOR A POSITION?

Raven
02-16-2015, 08:31 PM
Lots of vagueness in those past careers. Many of them could mean anything... I thought we were settlers trying to create a new civilization here?

Suppose Thomkal (a military General?) becomes our leader, and Timmae (a "scientist") becomes our primary scientist. Then what do we become? A military space station?

EagleFan
02-16-2015, 08:33 PM
I voted for Autumn, because his experience as a chief of staff mirrors mine as a general very much I think. A lot of leadership skill, knowledge in many different fields, ability to discipline fairly when called for, etc. I would be looking to vote for people in the other areas with similar qualities as well. So I think it would helpful for those running for a position to be specific about what position(s) they held on Earth if at all possible.

QUESTION FOR EF:

ARE WE ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR OURSELF FOR A POSITION?

Yes you may.

JAG
02-16-2015, 08:33 PM
At this point I'm inclined to vote timmae as Scientist, I like how he's dug into things so far and probably go for government given more support for that than research. Other than those, still undecided to this point.

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 08:36 PM
Shoveler- Enforcing Justice?

I was a private investigator on Earth, a skill set that is likely more useful in a group of 21 colonists + 1 unknown stowaway. With this small of a group we most likely wont need your run of the mill speed trap enforcing police officer.

The first order of business for our sheriff may be to identify this stowaway, and there is no one better suited for this task than myself.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:43 PM
Leader -
Scientist -
Engineer -
Sheriff -
Doctor - Autumn
Project - Biodome




i'd be okay with you being either leader or biodome
altho i like britrock for biodome too as he threw a nice vote my way. I'm a sucker for my constituents.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 08:43 PM
hahaha i mean sheriff, not biodome. hahaha Thomkal is SUCH a biodome.

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 08:53 PM
Lots of vagueness in those past careers. Many of them could mean anything... I thought we were settlers trying to create a new civilization here?

Suppose Thomkal (a military General?) becomes our leader, and Timmae (a "scientist") becomes our primary scientist. Then what do we become? A military space station?

I was a military (Army) general who lead during a time of war. I had to make difficult decisions that were not always popular, but I feel were the correct ones. I am retired now, thus not an active member of the military-so I would not be calling for a draft or martial law or something like that unless the situation here suddenly warranted it. I would not become a dictator if elected, but rather a leader of a democracy.

Thomkal
02-16-2015, 08:53 PM
hahaha i mean sheriff, not biodome. hahaha Thomkal is SUCH a biodome.

yes yes I am such a biodome :)

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 08:59 PM
Personal preference here, but I'm not much in favor or having our leader be influenced by past ties to big business, or to the military. Our resident History Professor is intriguing though.

Shoveler
02-16-2015, 08:59 PM
Leader - Fontisian
Scientist - Timmae
Engineer - Grover
Sheriff - Shoveler
Doctor - Chief Rum
Project - Government

timmae
02-16-2015, 09:03 PM
Leader: DanGarion
Scientist: timmae
Engineer: Grover
Sheriff: Shoveler
Doctor: Chief
Project: government

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 09:03 PM
Lots of vagueness in those past careers. Many of them could mean anything... I thought we were settlers trying to create a new civilization here?

Suppose Thomkal (a military General?) becomes our leader, and Timmae (a "scientist") becomes our primary scientist. Then what do we become? A military space station?

Spacelab 2022 AD

Raven
02-16-2015, 09:05 PM
I was a military (Army) general who lead during a time of war. I had to make difficult decisions that were not always popular, but I feel were the correct ones. I am retired now, thus not an active member of the military-so I would not be calling for a draft or martial law or something like that unless the situation here suddenly warranted it. I would not become a dictator if elected, but rather a leader of a democracy.

So a man who has spent his life making military decisions, and telling others what to do, will suddenly allow others to make the decisions democratically? I'm not buying it.

CrimsonFox
02-16-2015, 09:05 PM
Hahah I guess. Also, I have no idea if you are joking about being a mechanic or not so you got a question mark too!

this wasn't a joke zinto. i really am an automechanic. I don't joke aronud with moon buggies