Fear the Walking Dead -- TV Series Thread

[Edward64]

Tonight is the premiere of the spin-off.

I hope its as good as The Walking Dead.

"Fear the Walking Dead," 9 p.m. ET Sunday, AMC

It was almost a given that AMC would seek to mine the hugely successful zombie series "The Walking Dead" for yet more thrills. The new show takes place in Los Angeles, rather than Georgia, at the beginning of the outbreak.

"People will be surprised that these new characters are compelling and have different issues," said Gale Anne Hurd, an executive producer on both "Walking Dead" shows. "Many of our viewers will actually be ahead of the characters in terms of knowing what's coming."

Hurd said the new series will show "the full spectrum of how humanity would respond."

"Some characters say, 'You don't know what you're dealing with; this isn't going away; you need weapons; otherwise you won't survive.' Then you have characters who still think these people are really, really sick. Can you reason with them or snap them out of it?"

[Edward64]

Watching the Talking Dead now.

They had a pretty good trailer/teaser of Fear the Walking Dead. Based in LA during the early days of the outbreak (when Rick Grimes was in coma).

[cthomer5000]

I saw the original teaser an I enjoyed the fact that it seemed to be taking a very different approach to things. I'm one of the prominent whiners in the Walking Dead thread (I feel the show wastes a huge amount of it's potential), but I'm strangely optimistic for this show based on the little I've seen.

[Edward64]

Pretty boring so far, premiere is a dud unless it picks up in the last 10 min. A lot of attempted character development.

EDIT - its going past the 1 hour mark so I guess a 2 hour premiere. Tension is starting to build up.

[stevew]

Forgot to record. Damn.

[PilotMan]

I enjoyed it. I thought that the kid, who looked like a young Johnny Depp, did pretty good. I liked the showcase of him hitting his breaking point. Then the tension of the last thirty minutes was solid.

[Kodos]

I was having trouble staying awake during the show. I'll give it a few more episodes to hook me in.

[Chief Rum]

Yeah, there was a lot of character development in this one, but I recognize that is necessary at this point.

As noted, the last 30 minutes or so were pretty good, once things finally started to amp up with the older kid and with the first signs of zombies.

[Thomkal]

It set records for most viewers:

‘Fear the Walking Dead’ Sets All-Time Cable Ratings Premiere Record | Variety (http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/fear-the-walking-dead-premiere-sets-all-time-cable-ratings-record-1201575876/)

[Flasch186]

I thought it was GREAT and the acting was awesome esp. the kid.

[Grammaticus]

I thought the acting was awful, especially the school scenes. Pretty weak kick off.

[stevew]

I saw the original teaser an I enjoyed the fact that it seemed to be taking a very different approach to things. I'm one of the prominent whiners in the Walking Dead thread (I feel the show wastes a huge amount of it's potential), but I'm strangely optimistic for this show based on the little I've seen.


Me too. Hopefully they keep it in its own little world and don't try too hard to do variants of the PrisonFarm™

[SteveMax58]

I was having trouble staying awake during the show. I'll give it a few more episodes to hook me in.

Same here. I missed the last 20 minutes or so but watched it last night. It picked up a lot.

Looking forward to the next episode but yeah hoping they don't over do it on the (somewhat necessary) character development.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The episode was a little slow. I'm a big fan of Kim Dickens and I like the guy playing her husband, so I think the show has potential.

I'm not sure why they went back to the heroin den. Twice. They are a couple of teachers. What did they think they were going to accomplish going to a drug flop house in the middle of the night?

"Something bad happened here." Really? Thanks for the hot take, counselor!

The drug addict kid, Nick, was a fine actor, but his character already annoys. I can see him being quite the fucking anchor for the group with his unpredictable ways, his inevitable withdrawal symptoms, etc.

I hope that the father's - I don't wanna see you regardless of it's your weekend kid - isn't equally as irritating.

Based on the little "this season on FWD" preview at the end, things look promising.

[panerd]

They way I figure it they have only three things to cover before the zombie apocalypse ends up where it is on the Walking Dead...

1) The appearance of the first group of zombies
2) The panic
3) Whatever happens with the government and ultimately leads to most of the population being dead.

I thought the first episode was a fantastic set-up and the last 20 minutes or so were very intense. I don't mind people who don't like the show or the acting but I'm unsure how you could move any faster without confining it to a 3 part mini-series or just becoming Walking Dead West Coast.

[panerd]

By the way does anyone know if this is based off of any source material or just a spin-off due to the monster ratings the the original show?

Like I said I like it but didn't know if the stuff that happens here was actually in the comic books and the first show just decided to start with Rick Grimes waking up in the hospital.

[hoopsguy]

Was interesting to see the drug dealer, who died of gunshot wound, turn at the end. Although I'm not sure, if this zombie spawning process was in place from very start of the outbreak, that the Georgia group had not made this discovery before Rick's police buddy came shambling back for a 2nd round near the end of the first season.

[cmp]

Just finished watching the first episode. I enjoyed it even if it was a bit slow to start. Looking forward to next week.

[Honolulu_Blue]

By the way does anyone know if this is based off of any source material or just a spin-off due to the monster ratings the the original show?

Like I said I like it but didn't know if the stuff that happens here was actually in the comic books and the first show just decided to start with Rick Grimes waking up in the hospital.

None of this is from the comics or anything else. It's all brand new and due solely to the monster ratings of the original show.

Was interesting to see the drug dealer, who died of gunshot wound, turn at the end. Although I'm not sure, if this zombie spawning process was in place from very start of the outbreak, that the Georgia group had not made this discovery before Rick's police buddy came shambling back for a 2nd round near the end of the first season.

Neither the comic nor the original show every discussed where the first zombie spawned or how the virus spread our anything. The closest thing there has been to an explanation was the scene in the CDC in the last episode of the first season and the fact that everyone is infected. That's pretty much it.

[stevew]

I only watched the Pilot but I already prefer this cast to the original.

[panerd]

Lots of dumb decisions made by the characters but I guess there wouldn't be a show if they all stuck together and weren't in danger. This looks like it could be a really good 1 season show but if they plan on running it like 10 seasons like the original it will fizzle out fast. Seems like California would have more boat/island options that could be zombie free rather quickly.

[CraigSca]

Different strokes, I guess, but we found it boring, and we really don't care what happens to the drug addict kid or his family.

[Chief Rum]

I am enjoying it. Lot more action in the second episode than the first. You can see things ramping up.

Lots of stupid decisions, but I chalk a lot of that (the daughter with her BF; the ex-wife being all crazy belligerent; the son being anti-dad) to them not really realizing the end of the world is coming and they need to prepare. IMO, that's a normal response in those situations (and which I hope we'll see less of as the gravity of the situation starts to become clear).

Apparently, there is some outrage that all the black characters are being killed off and becoming zombies. I chuckled at that, but technically, it's true.

[stevew]

Lots of dumb decisions made by the characters but I guess there wouldn't be a show if they all stuck together and weren't in danger. This looks like it could be a really good 1 season show but if they plan on running it like 10 seasons like the original it will fizzle out fast. Seems like California would have more boat/island options that could be zombie free rather quickly.

I wish they would go full anthology and set each season in a different place with a different cast.

[Kodos]

Second episode was better than the first. Will keep watching.

[Subby]

Really good. Much better acting than what was in the original season of TWD. Plus I am a big fan of their continued use of The Wire alums.

[stevew]

Liked the 2nd episode. Do kinda wonder wtf they were thinking by having the first 3 major zombies all being black.

I do see some suck potential if they're just going to go to the desert cause it's a cheap filming location.

[Chief Rum]

Liked the 2nd episode. Do kinda wonder wtf they were thinking by having the first 3 major zombies all being black.

I do see some suck potential if they're just going to go to the desert cause it's a cheap filming location.

They mention the desert in the show, of course, but there's actually a ton of different sorts of terrain in and around the LA area, and that's presuming they even get out of the LA city proper this season (they may not).

I actually think it's far more likely they end up in the San Gabriel Mountains.

[Mota]

Liked the 2nd episode. Do kinda wonder wtf they were thinking by having the first 3 major zombies all being black.

I do see some suck potential if they're just going to go to the desert cause it's a cheap filming location.

1st key zombie was the hot chick that they had on every single ad for weeks. She was white.

[stevew]

1st key zombie was the hot chick that they had on every single ad for weeks. She was white.

Yeah, but did she even have a speaking part pre zombie

[PackerFanatic]

Yeah, but did she even have a speaking part pre zombie


No sir. She did not.

Just watched the first two. Definitely slow, but definitely intriguing. A much different angle than TWD ever had, and it is fun knowing what we know and watching the new characters start to learn these things too.

[CU Tiger]

I think this is the show they are filming in the next town over from me. Shut down downtown all day yesterday.

Changed street signs and painted a WV mural on a historic building. Supposedly set in WVa...not sure.

Cool connection they are filming some wood scenes on the farm next to my grandfather's which is the same piece of land they filmed The Patriot on...

Not sure how these type of deals find rural SC as a film location but...

[stevew]

This is set in LA

[Edward64]

I am enjoying it. Lot more action in the second episode than the first. You can see things ramping up.

Lots of stupid decisions, but I chalk a lot of that (the daughter with her BF; the ex-wife being all crazy belligerent; the son being anti-dad) to them not really realizing the end of the world is coming and they need to prepare. IMO, that's a normal response in those situations (and which I hope we'll see less of as the gravity of the situation starts to become clear).


Didn't catch episode 2 last week but just saw the re-run tonight. Yup, getting more intense and looking forward to more zombies.

[CU Tiger]

This is set in LA

Sorry just double checked its "outcast" they are filming.

Written by the same guy supposedly. I've never watched any of it.

[stevew]

Is ep3 on tonight?

[stevew]

Sorry just double checked its "outcast" they are filming.

Written by the same guy supposedly. I've never watched any of it.

New show.

If you weren't married I'd suggest trying to cozy up to Wrenn Schmidt. She's a super hottie

[Chief Rum]

Is ep3 on tonight?

I believe they took this week off because of the holiday.

[Edward64]

Great episode (except for the monopoly part).

[MacroGuru]

Great episode (except for the monopoly part).

Bah Travis is a pussy and it left us all wanting him to get it next

[Grammaticus]

It's weird that nobody talks about zombies, considering the topic in pop culture. Is this show in an alt. universe?

[Flasch186]

Bah Travis is a pussy and it left us all wanting him to get it next

I think its totally realistic of someone unsure of what is going on taking longer to hang on to his moral code and balance all of the groups/people pulling at him.

Im loving it.

[Flasch186]

It's weird that nobody talks about zombies, considering the topic in pop culture. Is this show in an alt. universe?

This happened while Rick was in the Hospital so in a way you have to rewind the clock all the way before the Zombie fascination began. I'd argue Vampires were more popular back then with those garbage teeny bop movies at the time.

[JonInMiddleGA]

This happened while Rick was in the Hospital so in a way you have to rewind the clock all the way before the Zombie fascination began. I'd argue Vampires were more popular back then with those garbage teeny bop movies at the time.

And George Romero never existed in the TWD alternate/parallel universe.

[panerd]

I think its totally realistic of someone unsure of what is going on taking longer to hang on to his moral code and balance all of the groups/people pulling at him.

Im loving it.

Yes I am liking it a lot as well. Most zombie shows (including TWD) are based on the fact that the apocalypse has already happened and so it is kill zombies or be killed. This show seems more nuanced that the characters don't know for a fact that their neighbors can't be saved or what exactly is going on. I love the ending of this episode where they think the military have saved the day and eventually it will be life as normal. (Taking the trash out etc...)

[MacroGuru]

Yes I am liking it a lot as well. Most zombie shows (including TWD) are based on the fact that the apocalypse has already happened and so it is kill zombies or be killed. This show seems more nuanced that the characters don't know for a fact that their neighbors can't be saved or what exactly is going on. I love the ending of this episode where they think the military have saved the day and eventually it will be life as normal. (Taking the trash out etc...)

We are liking it, but we just figured Travis would be stronger, but then again. I think the other issue we have is WE know they are zombies and we have to realize they don't know.

[Flasch186]

I thought that it was cleverly reinforced outside the hospital when they kept shooting them in the body versus the head...

[Chief Rum]

That whole hospital driveby and the following view of the power going out throughout the city was a well-done scene.

I am enjoying it. I liked last night's episode. Good tension throughout.

[cthomer5000]

It's weird that nobody talks about zombies, considering the topic in pop culture. Is this show in an alt. universe?

One of the weird conceits of almost all zombie fiction is that they exist in a world where the pop culture of a "zombie" literally doesn't exist. It's definitely odd, but it's pretty widespread.

[Groundhog]

It's weird that nobody talks about zombies, considering the topic in pop culture. Is this show in an alt. universe?

It's solely to avoid using the 'Z' word.

[Edward64]

Eh, I'm ambivalent about tonight's episode. No action but the tension is building up.

[PilotMan]

Just finished watching this week's show and I thought it was one of the best. They are certainly setting the table differently than the other show. The whole thing feels different and I love it. Right now it's just some dark mayhem sewn around a familiar plot line.

[stevew]

Junkie Depp was getting annoying. I hope they kill him offscreen and we never think of him again

[stevew]

I do like the Lady that plays the evil doctor. She's been really good in a few things I've watched.

[Chief Rum]

Junkie Depp was getting annoying. I hope they kill him offscreen and we never think of him again

"was getting annoying"? He left annoying at the station sometime halfway through Episode 1. I want that kid to be zombie meat. He's worthless.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'd take the junkie kid over the camera kid. He's the worst.

[Chief Rum]

I'd take the junkie kid over the camera kid. He's the worst.

He's a pretty crappy son, but at least he is helping to pull Travis out of his own ass (with help from the junkie's mom). The junkie kid is just worthless.

[kingfc22]

"was getting annoying"? He left annoying at the station sometime halfway through Episode 1. I want that kid to be zombie meat. He's worthless.

Just caught up. Thank god he got taken away. 100% agree with CR.

[stevew]

I'd take the junkie kid over the camera kid. He's the worst.

Not to mention he bears no resemblance to his mom or dad. Time to see if Maury is still alive.

[stevew]

Shaping up for an interesting finale.

Guys on other forum bitch about the portrayal of the military on this show. I don't really think it's that bad, but I guess one could perhaps feel that way if he was inclined to think the world is skewed by liberals.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think the portrayal of the military has been pretty balanced. The one leader guy is a complete ass, but Opehlia's boyfriend was a good dude as was the one guy who wanted to see his family in San Diego.

I am a big fan of The Closer. He's clearly TV's best Closer since Kyra Sedgwick.

[Edward64]

The episode was okay ... ready for a zombie fest in the finale.

The series so far is fun to watch but when I think about what I would do in the same situation, the characters just seem way off.

[MacroGuru]

So again, we sat and watched.

And my GF who is a Walking Dead junkie (Was into it before the TV Series) she stated that the world didn't have Zombie movies, they didn't know about Zombies until the outbreak.

I took that combined with what you guys told me to, the approach of Travis and it makes it easier for me to watch.

My GF who is ex-Army did bitch about the portrayal of the military, but she did add a however in it. If they were National Guard, she could see it.

[Edward64]

Pretty good episode. Lots of action, violence and zombies. Looking forward to the yacht in Season 2 but ready to get back to Walking Dead next Sun.

[stevew]

The teenage girl character really benefitted from some anti-rape plot armor. I kinda feel like she would have ended up with the guys deserting.

And I felt like it was pretty convenient to have the ex wife be bitten. Will be interesting if they do use the Yacht. I doubt it goes in that direction tho


A++ on the helicopter suicide. That was great

[hoopsguy]

The teenage girl character really benefitted from some anti-rape plot armor. I kinda feel like she would have ended up with the guys deserting.

And I felt like it was pretty convenient to have the ex wife be bitten. Will be interesting if they do use the Yacht. I doubt it goes in that direction tho


A++ on the helicopter suicide. That was great

That whole scene with the military guys taking their SUV confused me. Why would they want/need that specific car in a garage full of vehicles?

[Kodos]

Only one they had a key to maybe?

We watched the whole season, but can't say that I'm all that into it.

[SteveMax58]

The teenage girl character really benefitted from some anti-rape plot armor. I kinda feel like she would have ended up with the guys deserting.

I swear can't they think up better ways to have scumbag rapists portrayed? Its like cartoonish or something..."hey mama wanna ride with ME?" while he raises his eyebrows with the 1950's sinister villain cliche.

I can't claim to be a student of rapist (let alone child rapist) psychology but something just seems so non-serious when they portray them in that cheesy caricature. Instead of creeping me out, it makes me lose interest in the show because they are resorting to unoriginal (and seemingly inaccurate) cliches.

[Honolulu_Blue]

That whole scene with the military guys taking their SUV confused me. Why would they want/need that specific car in a garage full of vehicles?

Low hanging fruit. They saw the kids in the truck. They figured they had the keys, so they went for it. While it's possible the other vehicles may have had keys in them, it seems unlikely since who leaves their keys in their car? Also, it was a nice sized SUV loaded with supplies.

[MacroGuru]

Loved the final episode.

Travis actually grew to me, he had to make some hard choices last night, one of them was spur of the moment, I trusted you type decision and you destroyed it all.

Then the fact he knew his ex wife was bit, and he chose to pull the trigger was big to me.

I think it's going to get better.

[Edward64]

Loved the final episode.

Travis actually grew to me, he had to make some hard choices last night, one of them was spur of the moment, I trusted you type decision and you destroyed it all.

Then the fact he knew his ex wife was bit, and he chose to pull the trigger was big to me.

I think it's going to get better.

She still had time. I personally would not have pulled the trigger until she really started to collapse (e.g. she could have spent more time with son). The quickness of the act really wasn't well thought out.

There were some great scenes though so I liked it.

[Flasch186]

I also think the saying goodbye couldve been done in a much more empathetic way. They couldve gotten the son there to say goodbye. It couldve been a much slower goodbye and been able to really bind the group together around her death.

[Chief Rum]

I enjoyed the final episode. Great action, lots of zombies, finally some zombies actually eating people.

While I hear you guys on how some of the stuff at the end could have been done better for more emotional impact, I personally found it fairly moving. Great final shot, too.

Seems to me they have finally reached a "Walking Dead" stage of the story, and I will be interested to see where they go with it. Please don't go to some deserted island though, guys, okay?

[MacroGuru]

I agree with you guys, it could have been handled much more empathetic, more slowly, the fact it was so fast...and it was Travis, was the impact I think was needed.

Remember this too, it was the wife that wanted it done fast and without anyone knowing.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yeah, it was done a little quickly, but MacroGuru was right, that's how Liza (the wife) wanted it. She'd just spent a few days watching people get sick and die from bites. She didn't want to go down like that and wanted it over sooner rather than later.

[Mota]

I thought the season had a great beginning, although I was not a fan of the "protected suburb" part. I would have much rather seen the inhabitants of an apartment building in downtown LA dealing with stuff. I guess that would have been a one season show though, no one would make it out of there alive.

I did think the last episode was excellent though. You finally got to see the beginning of the fall of man. Very cool (and thankfully we are watching it on TV and not real life).

[chrisj]

She still had time. I personally would not have pulled the trigger until she really started to collapse (e.g. she could have spent more time with son). The quickness of the act really wasn't well thought out.


Of course they really don't know when people turn - to them it could be minutes, hours, days, etc. They've been pretty locked up and haven't seen how long it goes from bite to turn (and of course we know that the bite isn't even relevant).

At this point clearly no one knows much - hence the military guy who killed himself after being bit.

[stevew]

Millions of Americans were crushed when that key card worked to save junkie pants. Then again, Strand might be the best character on either show. At least until he gets eaten because there can only be one.

[panerd]

So what is the deal with Strand? I assume he is a wealthy guy with the beach house and boat but I don't recall ever hearing how he ended up in the detainment center. Is he a con man? Are we supposed to know more than smooth talker who owns a really nice house?

[SteveMax58]

So what is the deal with Strand? I assume he is a wealthy guy with the beach house and boat but I don't recall ever hearing how he ended up in the detainment center. Is he a con man? Are we supposed to know more than smooth talker who owns a really nice house?

I don't know anything more than anyone else but I have a hunch that Strand doesn't own that house or the boat.

[PadresFan104]

I'm really surprised to see so many positive comments about the episode and the series in general. From beginning to end, it did not live up to my expectations. And that terrible CGI with the boat at the end... I mean, you couldn't just get actual footage of a yacht... not moving... in an empty ocean? :confused:

I'll continue to watch, but both my wife and I were left wondering if it would even continue on to a second season. If the reaction here is any indication, I guess it will!

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'll continue to watch, but both my wife and I were left wondering if it would even continue on to a second season. If the reaction here is any indication, I guess it will!

A second season was already green lit the day the first episode premiered. I have no idea what they numbers look like.

[JonInMiddleGA]

A second season was already green lit the day the first episode premiered. I have no idea what they numbers look like.

They've been fine. Not breathtaking like the original has become, but fine.

Premiered to 10.13m live then steadily fell for a few weeks and then stabilized
8.18m ep2
7.19m ep3
6.62m ep4
6.66m ep5
6.86m finale

If things hadn't leveled off between 4-5 then I think you might hear at least a little bit of concern but since they did, it's fine. And the show does well in terms of increase on the +3 numbers, so that helps.

[Edward64]

Eh. The kid wandering off by himself to search the plane was complete BS.

But I'll continue to watch just because its zombies.

[MacroGuru]

I am growing very very bored...moving to slow...

[Honolulu_Blue]

Eh. The kid wandering off by himself to search the plane was complete BS.

But I'll continue to watch just because its zombies.

That kid is the worst.

You know who I don't care about on this show? Everyone. I give zero fucks about pretty much every single person on that boat. Any of them could die and I wouldn't care. But that emo kid is the worst.

They finally found a potentially interesting character - the Asian woman from the airplane/Flight Whatever Commercial Episodes - and, of course, they just leave her floating in the middle of the ocean.

[Ned Doolittle]

The reason why I stopped watching after episode 2 of this season is this:

The Walking Dead is too far along in the "how to act and survive in a zombie apocalypse" (trust no one, your "family" is your first priority, can't save everyone, etc) for me the viewer to go back to how it was. There are too many "wtf are you doing?! Stop trying to be a hero!" moments in FTWD for me and I couldn't take it anymore. But it took TWD many seasons (and yrs) to get to this point and the viewer has grown along the way, it's too much to ask the viewer to go back and pretend/suspend disbelief that the "good guy/hero" way of doing things is viable.

The only real character on that show was the black guy yacht owner. But everyone else was too annoying. Anyway it's good to have a break from zombies. The only way this show would work would be as a 4-5 episode series at the start of every September/October. At that point ppl are in full "I can't wait for TWD to start!!" mode that a short series in the month preceding the season premiere of TWD would be very welcomed. And it would hit home the fact that it's a prequel, it'd be cool to see early days of that universe and quickly "fast forward" to the shit hole the world has become when TWD starts. But to have FTWD come on immediately after TWD ends is too backwards. So no thanks, between Vinyl and Game of Thrones it was very easy to bypass FWTD.

[panerd]

I like the theme of last night's episode, it's one that hasn't been done on the other show. It could all blow up next week but it is a new one at least. Long hair kid is also growing on me, he was my least favorite season 1 but seems to have more personality this season. I also like how they seem to be trying to move a little faster than The Walking Dead moves. I think Rick and company would have been on that yacht for at least a full season with the hostage trade taking 2-3 episodes. Maybe they are learning and trying different things with this show? I hear the complaints and realize this isn't everyone's cup of tea but Fear has been enjoyable for me.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I still have issues with this show.

What theme are you referring to exactly that hasn't been done on the other show? I may be missing something, but I sort of had the exact opposite reaction. Maybe not theme, but set up. The whole - the zombies aren't really dead, but still sort of people thing - has been done on the Walking Dead a few times, most specifically during season 2 in the barn at the farm. This feels like bit of a retread of that.

I think Nick - the druggie - has developed into one of the stronger, more interesting characters. I like him and Strand.

I have no idea what's going on with Chris. He's gone from being tore up about his mom dying to becoming a pyscho really, really really quickly. He's an annoying hot mess of a character. Just die already.

Also, I feel like they have advanced things too quickly. The scene at the village, for example. A heard of zombies shows up, they all grab improvised weapons, and kill them all. It's only been a few weeks since the outbreak, they've spent a large amount of time isolated on a boat, but they are already a team of bad ass zombie slayers? It felt like Rick's group had to slowly evolve into that. They had a handful of bad asses right away - Rick and Darryl primarily - but the rest of the group either died or earned their way to becoming tough, hard core zombie killers. This group just sort of became one super quick.

And now it feels like society has largely broken down and we'll be going over similar ground in terms of survival and the like.

I feel like the show is nothing more than methadone to Walking Dead's heroin.

[panerd]

I still have issues with this show.

What theme are you referring to exactly that hasn't been done on the other show? I may be missing something, but I sort of had the exact opposite reaction. Maybe not theme, but set up. The whole - the zombies aren't really dead, but still sort of people thing - has been done on the Walking Dead a few times, most specifically during season 2 in the barn at the farm. This feels like bit of a retread of that.

I think Nick - the druggie - has developed into one of the stronger, more interesting characters. I like him and Strand.

I have no idea what's going on with Chris. He's gone from being tore up about his mom dying to becoming a pyscho really, really really quickly. He's an annoying hot mess of a character. Just die already.

Also, I feel like they have advanced things too quickly. The scene at the village, for example. A heard of zombies shows up, they all grab improvised weapons, and kill them all. It's only been a few weeks since the outbreak, they've spent a large amount of time isolated on a boat, but they are already a team of bad ass zombie slayers? It felt like Rick's group had to slowly evolve into that. They had a handful of bad asses right away - Rick and Darryl primarily - but the rest of the group either died or earned their way to becoming tough, hard core zombie killers. This group just sort of became one super quick.

And now it feels like society has largely broken down and we'll be going over similar ground in terms of survival and the like.

I feel like the show is nothing more than methadone to Walking Dead's heroin.

By theme I meant foreign country, foreign "customs". Seems like TWD is always in some wooded area of Appalachia while this is LA, the ocean, and now Mexico.

It's definitely not the Walking Dead but not a bad companion. I would say I care about Strand, Nick, and Travis about as much as anyone besides Rick and Daryll on the other show. (Oh and Alicia who I feel bad ogling over since she is playing a high school aged character)

[Honolulu_Blue]

By theme I meant foreign country, foreign "customs". Seems like TWD is always in some wooded area of Appalachia while this is LA, the ocean, and now Mexico.

It's definitely not the Walking Dead but not a bad companion. I would say I care about Strand, Nick, and Travis about as much as anyone besides Rick and Daryll on the other show. (Oh and Alicia who I feel bad ogling over since she is playing a high school aged character)

Ah! That's a good point. It will be interested to see if what they do with all of that, assuming the group spends some more time in Mexico. That could be really cool.

I hear you on Alicia. I still have much stronger ties to a large portion of the Walking Dead crew - Rick, Darryl, Glenn, Maggie, Carol, Michonne...

I kind of liked Miguel. I was hoping he'd last, but... Alas, it was not meant to be.

[PilotMan]

This first half of the season was generally weak, imo. I mean, there were some strong points, but I only really care about a couple of the characters, the storyline dragged on the boat and then this whole Mexico area just felt forced and recycled.

I'll still keep watching, because the Mrs likes it, and I have hope that they can steer this thing back toward something entertaining.

[MacroGuru]

They almost lost me going towards the end of the season. I personally feel it was a poor move to show it immediately after a season of Walking Dead, it could have waited a bit.

The finale was enough to keep me watching, but I am growing weary of it.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I kind of liked the finale. It was interesting to see the various characters have these psychological breakdowns and to see the group splinter like it did.

[Edward64]

I'm liking this season so far. The Johnny Dep wannabe still is pretty bad but am enjoying the ranch main arc so far.

[panerd]

Yeah I'm guessing a lot of people understandably dropped out after season 2 but since arriving at the ranch the show has been pretty enjoyable with some interesting new characters. I thought the Brand/astronaut conversation was pretty well done though I'm not exactly sure where his character is headed out on the road alone with no weapons. AMC's mid-season finale during the summer is a bit much. What's the return date? September?

[Edward64]

This is a pretty good season of Fear. Interesting situations at the compound and dam.

Walking Dead has better acting but Fear is improving each season.

[Edward64]

Great season finale tonight.

Looking forward to Walking Dead next week.

[Edward64]

An okay premiere.

They introduced a couple new characters and I am intrigued by them. Looking forward to Morgan integrating with Madison & crew.

The MRAP thing with machine guns is over the top though.

[Edward64]

Nice episode this past week.

I think Fear has more interesting characters and more "open" zombie world to it.

I'm glad they finally got rid of the Johnny Depp wannabee. I am concerned for the Morgan crossover if all that happens is brings his moodiness into Fear.