2015 NFL Week 1

[Kodos]

Patriots versus Steelers. The NFL can't handle an angry Tom Brady.

[Julio Riddols]

Thats where I stand on it.

Pats 38-31. Brady with at least 4 TDs.

[Thomkal]

Let's go beloved Cardinals, may your QB's stay healthy this year! (thank god Lindley-last I saw-was with the Patriots

good luck to "your" team this season!

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Lions could very easily start 0-4 this year.

[JeeberD]

Cowboys-Giants games are always entertaining...I'm expecting a Cowboys win Sunday night, but it'll probably be close.

[stevew]

I really hope Brady drops 42 on a inept Steelers D. II dunno why I get such perverse joy out of seeing it happen to my team, but It's pretty funny

[BillJasper]

Think I'm skipping tonight's game. I don't need to listen to them yammer on for three more hours about deflated footballs after listening about it for the last eight months.

[Thomkal]

My interest in Tonight's game is /slightly/ above my interest in watching the Super Bowl which I had no interest in.

[BishopMVP]

Going to be interested to see how the Patriots play coverage. Will they single up Malcolm Butler on Brown at times, constantly roll a safety over to that side, or play a lot of zone? Le'Veon Bell (and to a lesser extent Martavis) being out is a huge difference, so let's see if the secondary can hold up against a pretty one dimensional offense. That and Gronk's health are our two biggest question marks right now. (I'm not worried about the WR's - Edelman and LaFell will be healthy eventually, and we have plenty of experience with shitty receivers.)

[Radii]

Football is back. This makes me happy. I'll watch some football. Can always mute the announcers!

[BishopMVP]

https://instagram.com/p/7dEGVFs10x/

I'm so glad Rex is still in the division.

[BillJasper]

https://instagram.com/p/7dEGVFs10x/

I'm so glad Rex is still in the division.

Is that the office the Head Coach in Buffalo gets? No wonder they can't attract anyone.

[Marmel]

It is football so I'll watch. Despite the horrible off field stuff going on in the NFL, I still do love the game of football.
I would love to see the Pats get stomped tonight, Brady throw a couple of picks and the Pats lose a few fumbles en route to a 44-0 loss. :)

[Coffee Warlord]

Probably in no small part because the Bears are going to be utterly awful this year, I've found it incredibly difficult to give a shit about football this season.

I haven't been this disinterested in a long, long time. It's odd.

[korme]

The more I think about it, I see Tom having an Eff You Mode™ season, like 45 TD 4800 yards.

[miami_fan]

The more I think about it, I see Tom having an Eff You Mode™ season, like 45 TD 4800 yards.

Can we set the rules for how we are going to deal with this sort of season from the Pats? Is it going to be unsportsmanlike for Brady to be chucking the ball down the field with the Pats up 56-0 in the middle of the 4th quarter or not?

[Kodos]

I predict the league has an FU Pats season, and they win just 8 games.

[Solecismic]

Brady is a slow starter and looked awful in his limited pre-season appearances. I'm sure he wants to do what he did last year after the Chiefs debacle, but he's at the age when the end has a high probability of coming every year.

You can't get fuel from feeling persecution. That's all window dressing and media horse-hockey. They win from being prepared and having the ability to execute plans. It will be interesting to see if Brady can still throw anything resembling a deep ball.

I think this one will be anything but easy. It helps that Pittsburgh's defense is far from the best they'll face this season.

[BillJasper]

Can we set the rules for how we are going to deal with this sort of season from the Pats? Is it going to be unsportsmanlike for Brady to be chucking the ball down the field with the Pats up 56-0 in the middle of the 4th quarter or not?

If they try that, Brady won't survive the season.

[Kodos]

My second prediction was that this is Brady's final season in New England.

[korme]

My second prediction was that this is Brady's final season in New England.

As in, he plays elsewhere next year? Why? That will never happen.

[Kodos]

Bill's not a sentimental guy.

[PilotMan]

I haven't been this pessimistic and ambivalent about the start of the NFL season in years. I'm still excited that it's here, but it's just not in the forefront of my thoughts anymore. I'm think it's the fear that the preseason Steelers are going to show up and spend the whole year playing like that. No faith.

[stevew]

I haven't been this pessimistic and ambivalent about the start of the NFL season in years. I'm still excited that it's here, but it's just not in the forefront of my thoughts anymore. I'm think it's the fear that the preseason Steelers are going to show up and spend the whole year playing like that. No faith.

Hey, but we can draft another LB in the first next year!

[PilotMan]

Hey, but we can draft another LB in the first next year!

He's going to be pretty good, cause if we play like that, we'll be in the top 5.

[dubb93]

Alright guys. Everything is working so far this drive. What we need to do here is have Antonio Brown throw a pass. No idea who HE is going to throw it to, but if we keep running a normal offense we are going to score a touchdown so we have to do something here.

[SackAttack]

Football is back. This makes me happy. I'll watch some football. Can always mute the announcers!

I would be so much more excited for the start of the season IF I HADN'T BEEN FUCKING SWAMPED IN FUCKING NFL TALK SINCE FUCKING JANUARY WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK SPORTS TALK RADIO

ahem

I'm sorry, I don't know where that came from.

Yay, Packers. I guess. Whatever.

[miami_fan]

LOL communications issues in Gillette Stadium. The NFL will do anything to make the Patriots look bad.

[SirFozzie]

Of all the games to have audio issues...

Brady is hot...


And oh...GRONK!

[QuikSand]

I would be so much more excited for the start of the season IF I HADN'T BEEN FUCKING SWAMPED IN FUCKING NFL TALK SINCE FUCKING JANUARY WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK SPORTS TALK RADIO

ahem

I'm sorry, I don't know where that came from.

Yay, Packers. I guess. Whatever.

Ummmmmm...

Location: Green Bay, WI

Dude.

[kingfc22]

I haven't been this pessimistic and ambivalent about the start of the NFL season in years. I'm still excited that it's here, but it's just not in the forefront of my thoughts anymore.

Right there with you. I just found out the Niners were playing Pittsburgh next week.

[dubb93]

OMG, Hayward-Bey actually caught a pass. This game engine is broken.

[SirFozzie]

Scobee better not have taken a long term lease out in Pittsburgh

[bhlloy]

Steelers kicker #4 coming on monday

[korme]

Bill's not a sentimental guy.

With any other position. Bill knows all of his credit is due to Tom, he's not stupid. And Krafty wouldn't let Tom walk.

[PilotMan]

I just jerked off thinking about how happy all the Patriots fans were right now. I was all ,"Brady Brady Brady...Groooooonk!"

[bhlloy]

Will Allen plays a great turnstile

[stevew]

This is playing out much like expected.

[miami_fan]

Thanks USAA. I forgot all about how the military paid for the privilege of being honored on those military appreciation days.

[bhlloy]

Lol, that's why Hayward Bey is terrible

[dubb93]

THAT is the Hayward-Bey I remember. He is who we thought he was.

[MrBug708]

Here comes 0-3

[stevew]

Blind Spot looks like the offspring of Prison Break and The Black List

[BishopMVP]

Brady is a slow starter and looked awful in his limited pre-season appearances. I'm sure he wants to do what he did last year after the Chiefs debacle, but he's at the age when the end has a high probability of coming every year.

You can't get fuel from feeling persecution. That's all window dressing and media horse-hockey. They win from being prepared and having the ability to execute plans. It will be interesting to see if Brady can still throw anything resembling a deep ball.

I think this one will be anything but easy. It helps that Pittsburgh's defense is far from the best they'll face this season.Huh? Is the idea Brady is a slow starter based off last year when Gronk was out? Brady's had multiple seasons where he's started fast, but our team is clearly dependent on Gronk at this point (even going back to like 2005, the other times we've looked great were with another elite pass-catcher in Moss.) That one elite guy getting doubles opens up all our other underneath crossing routes.My second prediction was that this is Brady's final season in New England.His contract makes it hard to do that. We had the option last year to cut him for almost no guarantee, but once he was kept past like week 6 it guaranteed his salary thru 2018.(17?) And barring injury I don't see him retiring - he's said he wants to play until 45, and I believe he believes it at this point.
Thanks USAA. I forgot all about how the military paid for the privilege of being honored on those military appreciation days.Anyone use USAA? I'm thinking of switching over... Any red flags or bad PR I'm missing?

[SackAttack]

Ummmmmm...



Dude.

Touché.

But it's not just the local shows. The national shows do it too. Yeah the local ones devote an entire 3 hour show to Packer'ing it up, but even the non-local shows go "okay it's May let's talk about the NFL for 90 minutes oh I guess we should devote five minutes to baseball 'kay civic duty done let's go back to football"

and when they're not talking about the NFL they're talking about college football

and this happens all goddamn year

[SirFozzie]

Out pattern out pattern out pattern out pattern touchdown. Think the steelers need to cover better outside?

[dubb93]

As the owner of a fantasy team that features both Ben Roethlisberger and DeAngelo Williams; that was painful.

[miami_fan]

Hey about this RGIII concussion situation, if his season is over does he get his $16 million?

[dubb93]

I think Pittsburgh should just keep running their offense at the goal line instead of full personnel changes and formation swaps. What do I know though?

[bhlloy]

Steelers play calling in the red zone has been awful. Sometimes you should just do the obvious thing rather than trying to get cute.

[dubb93]

Steelers play calling in the red zone has been awful. Sometimes you should just do the obvious thing rather than trying to get cute.

The backup RB seems incapable of making anyone miss. He is just putting his head down and hitting the hole. Atleast Williams has been elusive tonight. I would give him those goal line carries and aim them at the tackles.

[PilotMan]

The backup RB seems incapable of making anyone miss. He is just putting his head down and hitting the hole. Atleast Williams has been elusive tonight. I would give him those goal line carries and aim them at the tackles.

The backup running back is Will Johnson, the fullback.

[kingfc22]

That is not a TD

[Dutch]

Looks like the Patriots are in good shape now to win this one....HIDE YO ESPN!!!

[bhlloy]

That is. Why the fuck would you cover Gronk with a LB there?

[BillJasper]

That is. Why the fuck would you cover Gronk with a LB there?

Do you have a choice? He's just gonna blow a corner or safety off the ball on the goal line.

[dubb93]

The backup running back is Will Johnson, the fullback.

Mike Alstott he is not.

[dubb93]

What. The Crap. Was that?

[SirFozzie]

Rational Pats Fan
Offense gets an a.. defense b minus.. despite only giving up 21.. the steelers moved the ball at will and could easily have 14 more points (end zone catch 2 missed fg and the goal line stand)

Irrational Pats Fan (I get at least one post to gloat, right? :D)

Tom Brady 25-32, 288 yards, 4 TD.. and a Pats record 19 straight completions during the game. Deflated haters say what?

[BishopMVP]

Do you have a choice? He's just gonna blow a corner or safety off the ball on the goal line.Yeah, you double/shade towards him. Still might not work, but it gives you a better chance than anyone with a number in the 50's covering him 1v1.

[Sublime 2]

Rational Pats Fan
Offense gets an a.. defense b minus.. despite only giving up 21.. the steelers moved the ball at will and could easily have 14 more points (end zone catch 2 missed fg and the goal line stand)

Irrational Pats Fan (I get at least one post to gloat, right? :D)

Tom Brady 25-32, 288 yards, 4 TD.. and a Pats record 19 straight completions during the game. Deflated haters say what?

Defense deserves a mediocre C as far I'm concerned. That was not an inspiring performance whatsoever from that side of the ball.

Wished the running game had little more zip, but all-in-all hard to argue with that performance in game 1.

[SirFozzie]

NFL takes the blame for Radio-gate:

Ben Volin on Twitter: "NFL releases a statement taking the blame for and exonerating the #Patriots for the headset issue http://t.co/P4tjK6BdXE" (https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/642199582995292160)

[stevew]

I'm still amazed they rely on such antiquated technology on the sidelines during a game.

[Coffee Warlord]

Good news: Brady's on my fantasy team.
Bad news: Gronk's on my opponent's team.

[kingfc22]

Aldon Smith to the Raiders. Got to love the NFL's zero standards.

[BillJasper]

Aldon Smith to the Raiders. Got to love the NFL's zero standards.

There was no doubt he was going to get another chance. Will he be suspended now that he is on someone's roster?

[PilotMan]

I just jerked off thinking about how happy all the Patriots fans were right now. I was all ,"Brady Brady Brady...Groooooonk!"

And of course in the world of Karma, I've got to fly with an insufferable Patriots fan for 4 days. fml

[TroyF]

The Patriots played a terrific game, but I was stunned at how poor Pittsburgh was. The offense was fine, but the play calling and defense were horrible. Throw in a bad kicker and it was a recipe for disaster.

As far as the radios, I think the Patriots will do whatever they can to win a game, inside or outside of the rules. Maybe I'm wrong, but it really isn't because I'm a Broncos fan. (the Broncos are 3-6 against the Pats in the regular season with none of the losses hurting Denver playoff hopes and the Broncos are 2-1 against them in the playoffs over the last 12 years with the loss being the Tebow led Broncos that didn't belong in the playoffs anyway)

Having spewed all of that. . . there is no way in hell the Patriots had anything to do with bad radios during this game. And there is no way in hell the radios impacted the train wreck that was the Steelers secondary. As a full blown Patriots slammer. . . shame on Tomlin.

[stevew]

Yeah, this is the dumpster fire of a team we've worked on building for 5 years now. Every time I say anything negative about Tomlin I get called out, but seriously WTF is going on. We've got 3-5 good Ben years left and probably the best WR and RB in the league and I'd be shocked if we make another AFCCG before Ben retires.

And I could go on hours about our cap, but we've got a ton of WTF contracts on a 3/4 MLB(Timmons), a freaking Center(Pouncey) and then numerous secondary guys that make me angry to even say their name. Mike Mitchell is one of the worst players I've ever seen. And he's got an upside down contract still. He was a street free agent the year before (I'm pretty sure) we gave him the largest FA contact in franchise history. We draft linebackers like Matt Millen drafted receivers. Back to Timmons, he's a good player but 3/4 ILB are like 1 step up from street free agents and he's been paid considerably more than any other ILB recently. I swear I'm just about done, I'll have to watch this team go between 8-8 and 11-5 til football goes away.

[dubb93]

If the Steelers hit both those FG's and punch it in from the 1 the game ends up being a whole lot more interesting. All things considered I would be pretty happy with that showing on the road against the defending champs.

I don't buy that the Pats were terrific and the Steelers were awful. There were several instances in there where one play changes that game.

I do think that the Steelers will need to prepare better going forward. I saw several things during that game where I was yelling at the TV because they were so obvious and for some reason no one on the Steelers' sideline could see it.

[TroyF]

If the Steelers hit both those FG's and punch it in from the 1 the game ends up being a whole lot more interesting. All things considered I would be pretty happy with that showing on the road against the defending champs.

I don't buy that the Pats were terrific and the Steelers were awful. There were several instances in there where one play changes that game.

I do think that the Steelers will need to prepare better going forward. I saw several things during that game where I was yelling at the TV because they were so obvious and for some reason no one on the Steelers' sideline could see it.


Maybe, but you know what? The Patriots coaching staff was a HUGE part of making sure those one or two plays went their way. Big Ben gives a great play fake and wants to throw the ball to the TE. He's blanketed. The Patriots didn't bite and held their ground. Do I really need to get into how Pitt covered the TE on the other side or how the Patriots manipulated the Steelers defense to make it happen?

I think the refs probably missed the yelling of the snap count on the 1. . . but the Steelers had multiple chances before that. I think coaching and gameplan won the game for the Patriots.

I will agree. . . if that gets better and the Steelers have a break or two go their way, they can compete with the Patriots.

[bhlloy]

I don't know if you can really say a play on the first drive changed the whole game, but that Antonio Brown pass play really was an awful call. Up to that point Williams was running all over the Pats, they were creeping up allowing Ben open receivers in the middle and that one play just took the air out of a brilliant first drive. Just screamed of a scripted play that they were going to run in the red zone whatever happened but it never should have seen the light of day seeing how well the run game and the mid level passing game was going on that drive.

[Thomkal]

football is back! Hello again RedZone! Let's go beloved Cardinals!

[Dutch]

Yep, thankfully we got Cheater-Bowl out of the way before opening day. Now let the games begin!!!

[MikeVic]

I don't know if you can really say a play on the first drive changed the whole game, but that Antonio Brown pass play really was an awful call. Up to that point Williams was running all over the Pats, they were creeping up allowing Ben open receivers in the middle and that one play just took the air out of a brilliant first drive. Just screamed of a scripted play that they were going to run in the red zone whatever happened but it never should have seen the light of day seeing how well the run game and the mid level passing game was going on that drive.

I agree, I was surprised the offense was marching like that on the opening drive. And then the stupid Brown play happened and it felt deflating, even so early on.

[BillJasper]

Lynch just carried five Rams for five yards.

[kingfc22]

Man those Cleveland jerseys are HIDEOUS!

[BillJasper]

Nice to know the Browns are still the Browns!

[BillJasper]

I guess PI doesn't apply to Richard Sherman?

[BillJasper]

Taking McCown to the locker room.

[miami_fan]

Joe Buck has the nerve to admonish the public for making the McCarthy comments a big deal? Pot. Meet. Black.

[JPhillips]

Nice drive for J Football.

[BillJasper]

Manziel looks like he might be a QB! :eek:

[miami_fan]

Damnit RGIII what a stupid pass...:p

[BillJasper]

Three yards per pass attempt for Tannehill? Can't get a fourth-and-one? Have a feeling it is gonna be a long season in Miami, if this keeps up. :eek:

[cuervo72]

Damnit RGIII what a stupid pass...:p

And no points from that.

Over/under on number of times RGIII will be shown on sideline: 587.

[Solecismic]

I keep thinking Tannehill is on the short list for a breakout. But it never happens.

I've never seen so many injuries. At this rate, someone's going to get Brett Favre out of retirement by week ten.

[BillJasper]

Woohoo!!! Points!

[whomario]

I keep thinking Tannehill is on the short list for a breakout. But it never happens.



Hasn´t he steadily improved so far and was pretty good last year ? Not like he´s stagnated for years now or sth.

German Free TV is actually showing 2 games every week now plus another 1 or 2 as stream, very happy about that :)

[BillJasper]

Hasn´t he steadily improved so far and was pretty good last year ? Not like he´s stagnated for years now or sth.



He's a checkdown king. With Stills, Landry, Parker and Cameron, I was expecting a bit more throwing the ball down the field this season.

WTF is wrong with Indianapolis?

[whomario]

He's a checkdown king. With Stills, Landry, Parker and Cameron, I was expecting a bit more throwing the ball down the field this season.



Which would probably be a totally valid statement after week 8 rather than the first half of week 1 ;)

Russell Wilson made some really stupid decisions in regards to keeping the ball so far (and taking the sack) ...

[cuervo72]

Yeah, radio mentioned that Tannehill was 27 over 12 last year. You can get a lot worse.

[BillJasper]

Which would probably be a totally valid statement after week 8 rather than the first half of week 1 ;)



After eight months of waiting, I'm entitled to complain after a single half of football! :rant:

:D

[BillJasper]

Miami almost had me feeling good there for a second! :lol:

[TroyF]

Early thoughts:

1) The Texans really missed the scouting report on the Chiefs. Cover the RB and TE, give Charles some yards and dare Smith to beat you on third and long. (and when it is third and long, watch the pass to the RB)

They decided to stuff Charles, not cover RB or TE and ensure there is hardly any third downs at all. (The Chiefs only third down conversion was on a pass to a RB for 12 yards) Very sound strategy O'Brien. Very sound.

The Chiefs are paper thin IMHO, but if they stay healthy, they will be difficult to beat if you don't game plan them accurately.

2) Tyrod Taylor lighting up Indy. Did not expect that one.

3) Manziel with some good plays. We'll see how he does in the second half.

4) Hawks offense struggling.

5) I haven't seen the game, but what the hell is the ;Miami gameplan? They have ran the ball 5 times for 5 yards and only 4 of those carries wen to a RB? Considering the circumstances, I think his numbers are pretty good.

[Thomkal]

Man those Cleveland jerseys are HIDEOUS!

They are certainly fall-like

[BillJasper]

5) I haven't seen the game, but what the hell is the ;Miami gameplan?

Wish I knew?

Does Indy actually have anyone beyond Luck and Hilton?

[Thomkal]

I guess the Bills are for real?

[BillJasper]

I guess the Bills are for real?

I don't know? But that defense seems really slow.

[miami_fan]

Did they change the rules for challenging a play? I though that was a first down on the Jennings catch.

[BillJasper]

Did they change the rules for challenging a play? I though that was a first down on the Jennings catch.

I don't know? I'm watching RedZone, last play I've seen was the Tannehill fumble.

[BillJasper]

Seattle has their hands full in St. Louis.

[Atocep]

Seattle has their hands full in St. Louis.

The O-Line is awful. The approach has been spend money elsewhere and let Tom Cable coach them up, but he has his hands full with this group.

[BillJasper]

I'd fire Grigson if I was Irsay. Grigson is responsible for that shitty collection of talent.

[Radii]

Not sure if Luke Kuechly has a concussion or if they're just being careful, but he didn't come back out of the locker room for the second half, seems like he's done for today.

[BillJasper]

Nice punt return by Jarvis Landry.

[Abe Sargent]

The Jets are just spanking the Browns now

[cuervo72]

That was a pretty amazing INT.

[BillJasper]

The Jets are just spanking the Browns now

The poor Browns really seem to have no talent. I wonder if they could beat a good college team at this point?

[BillJasper]

That was a pretty amazing INT.

Yeah. I'm not sure it'll stand though.

[BillJasper]

Why didn't the Bears kick a FG there?

[JPhillips]

He made mistakes, but the Browns have to be pretty happy with Manziel.

[BillJasper]

He made mistakes, but the Browns have to be pretty happy with Manziel.

Agreed. It's tough to get a read on Manziel, the Jets have just been pouring through that offensive line.

[miami_fan]

I am pretty sure the Dolphins qualify as a finesse offensive team.

[BillJasper]

I am pretty sure the Dolphins qualify as a finesse offensive team.

I don't know how to qualify them, but it is a disappointing showing from them today.

[BillJasper]

There's the Jay Cutler everyone knows and loves! :lol:

[BillJasper]

Shouldn't a RB know not to run backwards five yards?!? :rant:

[miami_fan]

I thought both CBS and FOX both have doubleheaders today? According to my TV listings, the local FOX affiliate is going to show a replay of the Bayern-Augsburg game from yesterday.

[Thomkal]

Woo-Hoo Cards! First TD of the season.

[Atocep]

Why the hell would you open overtime with an onside kick attempt?

[Thomkal]

Not sure if Luke Kuechly has a concussion or if they're just being careful, but he didn't come back out of the locker room for the second half, seems like he's done for today.

That's the report on Kuechly. :( But on the positive side of things Panthers won and former Coastal Carolina alum CB Josh Norman looking like a star in the making with a fumble recovery and INT Pick-6.

[Thomkal]

Why the hell would you open overtime with an onside kick attempt?

Because its week 1 and you hope to catch them not ready for it? glad it failed

[Thomkal]

I thought both CBS and FOX both have doubleheaders today? According to my TV listings, the local FOX affiliate is going to show a replay of the Bayern-Augsburg game from yesterday.

Fox does not have a late game here in SC

[Radii]

That's the report on Kuechly. :( But on the positive side of things Panthers won and former Coastal Carolina alum CB Josh Norman looking like a star in the making with a fumble recovery and INT Pick-6.

Norman has been looking really good.

Carolina's defense looked a ton better in the second half. They used Greg Olsen for blocking a lot today and he only had one catch (had a TD called back by a penalty too), quite surprising.

[Radii]

That was a really nice throw by Foles.

[weegeebored]

There's the Jay Cutler everyone knows and loves! :lol:Pretty much the same old Bears -- no pass rush, bad play calling near the goal line (a bubble screen on 2nd and goal from the 2? WTF!), and Jay "Mr. Turnover" Cutler at QB. Are five wins even possible?

[miami_fan]

Why the hell would you open overtime with an onside kick attempt?

Thinking outside the box? Not going with the proverbial "book"

I though it was dumb but I am sure that would be his reasoning.

[Thomkal]

I'd fire Grigson if I was Irsay. Grigson is responsible for that shitty collection of talent.

If you saw the pre-game shows, Pagano is on the "Jim Harbaugh death march" this year, and his team played like it.

[Thomkal]

Norman has been looking really good.

Carolina's defense looked a ton better in the second half. They used Greg Olsen for blocking a lot today and he only had one catch (had a TD called back by a penalty too), quite surprising.

yeah with their WR talent, they need all the help catching the ball they can get-very surprising they didn't go to him more.

[Coffee Warlord]

New season, same old Cutler.

[Dutch]

Bucs with a personal foul for hitting the intended receiver high...where the ball was going...god I hate the new NFL safety rules. Another great defensive play that is a free 15 yard 1st down for the offense. Ugh...

[Thomkal]

I'm betting Seattle and Chancellor "magically" come to terms on his contract after watching his replacment cause the game to go to OT.

[Dutch]

And two players later Mariotta has two big passes and a TD. Argh!!!

Okay, now for these new rules to benefit Winston. :)

[BillJasper]

If you saw the pre-game shows, Pagano is on the "Jim Harbaugh death march" this year, and his team played like it.

If I was an owner and didn't support a guy, I'd go ahead and fire him. To have this hanging over the team the whole season is just going to doom them.

Rams Win!

[BillJasper]

I wanted the Dolphins to take Melvin Gordon. :(

[BillJasper]

And two players later Mariotta has two big passes and a TD. Argh!!!

Okay, now for these new rules to benefit Winston. :)

Mariota has a quick release.

[Dutch]

Winston's first pass is a pick 6....Titans up 14-0. LMAO....and now I want to curl up in a ball and cry.

[EagleFan]

Thinking outside the box? Not going with the proverbial "book"

I though it was dumb but I am sure that would be his reasoning.

I didn't like the call but to be honest it was the execution that kept it from working (not that it was easy execution). If that ball comes down at the 10 yard mark I think they recover, instead it was near 15 and where the defenders were.

[BillJasper]

That was a horrible throw by Winston. His guy was never close to being open.

[Thomkal]

quite a difference with Mariota and Winston's first drive huh? That was a horrible throw.

[Atocep]

Winston's first pass is a pick 6....Titans up 14-0. LMAO....and now I want to curl up in a ball and cry.

It's ok. Lovie will get him developed.

[Dutch]

It's ok. Lovie will get him developed.

Hehe, the ref already called the fight but here comes the extra hay-maker. :)

[Dutch]

Mariotta with TD #2...

Why do I watch this team!?!?

[Radii]

Titans Hype! Holy crap.

[BillJasper]

I think Lovie may be in over his head in Tampa.

[Thomkal]

a rushing TD for the Cards? The world must be coming to an end soon.

[Dutch]

Winston lays down a nice block on a DL to spring Martin to the outside...he can block well.

[BillJasper]

Chargers in trouble early.

[MizzouRah]

Great win for the Rams!!! I thought those two fumbles killed us.. but we fight back and win in OT!

[Thomkal]

If Carr is seriously hurt, Raiders might not win a game this season.

[BillJasper]

I still think Philip Rivers is the most overrated QB in the league.

[Thomkal]

end of the road for Peyton? Not looking good so far

[BillJasper]

end of the road for Peyton? Not looking good so far

I do think the end is near. Though that deep ball looked decent.

[BillJasper]

Jameis Winston... LOL.

But I think he'll eventually be okay. He's just got opening day jitters.

[Thomkal]

Oh man thought I saw Palmer limping after that last play in the half....looks like some of my fellow Cards fans saw it too....

[BillJasper]

Oh man thought I saw Palmer limping after that last play in the half....looks like some of my fellow Cards fans saw it too....

That would be bad. :eek:

[Atocep]

Mariota is looking good, but I think I'll reserve judgement until I see him face safeties that aren't Major Wright and Chris Conte.

[BillJasper]

Things getting out of hand in Oakland.

[BillJasper]

Mariota is looking good, but I think I'll reserve judgement until I see him face safeties that aren't Major Wright and Chris Conte.

He'll have his growing pains just like Winston is today.

[JPhillips]

Eifert makes a huge difference for Dalton. I really hope he can stay healthy.

[Abe Sargent]

I like the wins today for the Dolphins, Rams, Bills, and Chiefs. Happy to see all of those clubs at the 1:00 mark.

[BillJasper]

Lions could be dangerous with Abdullah in the backfield.

[BillJasper]

I like the wins today for the Dolphins, Rams, Bills, and Chiefs. Happy to see all of those clubs at the 1:00 mark.

I'm happy the Dolphins are 1-0, but I don't think they deserved to win that game. I have a feeling they may have a long season if they continue to play as poorly as they did today.

[TroyF]

end of the road for Peyton? Not looking good so far


I've been pleasently surprised by Peyton. The offensive line is not very good now and they are facing a terrific DLine in Baltimore. His passing has been pretty crisp for most part. (I can count two balls that were low and poor and he missed Sanders deep on a play where he had pressure in his face right at the snap.

He hit Sanders on a deep (30 yard) route later that Sanders didn't get. Would have been a tough catch, but the throw was perfect.

The way to kill Denver right now is to bring delayed pressure. It doesn't look like this line can find anyone on any type of delayed blitz.

The D? Holy hell they are good. 38 total yards for the Ravens in the first half. Flacco is 7-10 for 27 yards. Still a game and one play can lose this for Denver. Would like to see a good drive to start the second half.

[TroyF]

I'm happy the Dolphins are 1-0, but I don't think they deserved to win that game. I have a feeling they may have a long season if they continue to play as poorly as they did today.


I'm still very confused about their gameplan. Hope I get a chance to watch some of it. 37 pass attempts and 15 rushing attempt? Ummm, why? I just don't get it.

[BillJasper]

The D? Holy hell they are good. 38 total yards for the Ravens in the first half. Flacco is 7-10 for 27 yards. Still a game and one play can lose this for Denver. Would like to see a good drive to start the second half.

There's your one play. The thing I've noticed, is that Manning's passes don't seem to have much zip today.

[TroyF]

And. . . there we go, delayed blittz, int, Ravens lead. Ugh.

[BillJasper]

I'm still very confused about their gameplan. Hope I get a chance to watch some of it. 37 pass attempts and 15 rushing attempt? Ummm, why? I just don't get it.

I'm guessing Lazor is allergic to running the ball... But they won't win many games putting their defense on the field for 37 minutes.

[TroyF]

There's your one play. The thing I've noticed, is that Manning's passes don't seem to have much zip today.

They've actually had plenty of zip. . . except when he's got a guy in his grill. The OL is going to cost us this game.

[BillJasper]

That's not the same Peyton Manning from last year.

[BillJasper]

Even the screen he just threw, the ball just kinda floated.

[Solecismic]

They've actually had plenty of zip. . . except when he's got a guy in his grill. The OL is going to cost us this game.

I know I'm watching closely for it, but it seems he's trading a little zip for a little accuracy, and that's a bad trade in the NFL.

But we are seeing two excellent defenses out there. Maybe the best in the AFC so far.

[BillJasper]

Things are out of hand in Tampa. Having a rookie destroy you might mess with your defenses head for a while.

[BillJasper]

Someone forget to tell the Lions that football games have four quarters?

[EagleFan]

Love the announcers saying that the Chargers need to throw that challenge flag, that ball was out.

Um... the Lions recovered it.

[Abe Sargent]

Talib you suck :)

[cuervo72]

Do they have to call him Steve Smith, Sr.? It's not like Steve Smith, Jr. is in the league. It is so asinine.

[stevew]

Here's a shocker...Bortles and Cousins still were hot garbage today.

[Abe Sargent]

Keep on driving Flacco

[Abe Sargent]

Nice play call

[Abe Sargent]

Feh

[stevew]

How was that not PI on the broncos guy in front? He was aggressively faceguarding the intended receiver

[Galaril]

Awesome. Great D Denver!

[Galaril]

How was that not PI on the broncos guy in front? He was aggressively faceguarding the intended receiver

Haha yeah sure:-) the refs had been eating there flags all game while the Ravens Dbs gang raped the Bronco receivers.

[MizzouRah]

Why did I start Manning over Brady to start my FF season? :(

[TroyF]

How was that not PI on the broncos guy in front? He was aggressively faceguarding the intended receiver


Facegaurding is NOT a penalty in the NFL or college. Only some HS states have it.

When I watched the play live, I was sure it was PI and I was sure it was going to be 1st and 2 Ravens with them winning the game. Watching the replay, he was never touched. It was clean and it was an INT.

We'll see more about Manning as the year goes on. I think the arm strength thing was way overblown today. Denver didn't run the ball at all outside of the first and last drive. The offensive line was a disaster for most of the game.

it's going to be a brutal week this week. We look banged up. Chiefs will be out for blood. I still love our defense against the KC offense, but I'm not very confident about the other side yet. I hope the OLine gels.

[TroyF]

Haha yeah sure:-) the refs had been eating there flags all game while the Ravens Dbs gang raped the Bronco receivers.


The only time I ever had a huge problem in the game was the false start called on Manning. That was a horrible call and essentially ended a drive into Ravens territory. Other than that, I didn't have a huge issue with them.

[cartman]

I still think Philip Rivers is the most overrated QB in the league.

35/42 for 404 yards is pretty good

[TroyF]

Suggs tore an achilles. Gone for the year.

[Thomkal]

Lions could be dangerous with Abdullah in the backfield.

Or not

[Thomkal]

still waiting to see the extent of the Ellington injury but that sure was a nice first play by he rookie Johnson wasn't it? and woohoo Cards!

[Thomkal]

Bad stat of the day-the first red zone appearance in the Broncos/Ravens game came with about 4 minutes in the 4th quarter by Denver-Baltimore finally got in the red zone with a minute left in the game.

[JPhillips]

Bad stat of the day-the first red zone appearance in the Broncos/Ravens game came with about 4 minutes in the 4th quarter by Denver-Baltimore finally got in the red zone with a minute left in the game.

The Raiders didn't run a play in Bengals territory until the fourth quarter.

[Thomkal]

The Raiders didn't run a play in Bengals territory until the fourth quarter.

Well at least they had a QB injury there to explain it. It was Peyton Manning vs Joe Flacco in that game.

[miami_fan]

Do they have to call him Steve Smith, Sr.? It's not like Steve Smith, Jr. is in the league. It is so asinine.

I have heard about Steve Smith Sr.'s reputation, I suggest they continue if they know what's good for them:D

[cuervo72]

Yeah, there is that.

[Galaril]

Well at least they had a QB injury there to explain it. It was Peyton Manning vs Joe Flacco in that game.

Yeah but two of the three best defenses were in the Den-Balt game which explains that no TD thing.

[Thomkal]

doesn't look like there will be an announcement till tomorrow about Ellington's knee. It's an injury to his PCL though.

[miami_fan]

Yeah! The NFL finally are throwing the flag for pulling guys off the pile.

[cmp]

I'm enjoying the Luke McCown commercials. Best part of the day since the Lions played like the same old Lions.

[dubb93]

There appears to be video of Pac Man Jones ripping off Amari Coopers helmet while he was on top of him in the "mount" position as MMA would call it. He then sat the helmet down and rammed Cooper's head into it.

I didn't see that game today. Was it flagged on the field?

[bob]

There appears to be video of Pac Man Jones ripping off Amari Coopers helmet while he was on top of him in the "mount" position as MMA would call it. He then sat the helmet down and rammed Cooper's head into it.

I didn't see that game today. Was it flagged on the field?

Pacman Jones Rips Amari Cooper's Helmet Off, Slams His Head Into It (http://deadspin.com/pacman-jones-rips-amari-coopers-helmet-off-slams-his-h-1730425238)

Yes, flagged

[TroyF]

Pacman Jones Rips Amari Cooper's Helmet Off, Slams His Head Into It (http://deadspin.com/pacman-jones-rips-amari-coopers-helmet-off-slams-his-h-1730425238)

Yes, flagged

But no ejection

That should be an automatic suspension. I'd say it should go 4 games or more, but as I don't think the NFL has a policy on how long they can suspend someone for on field violence, it'll get overturned in court if they don't just fine him 25k.

[sabotai]

First half impressions for the Giants

The Good: Giants special teams covering very well on kickoffs and punts. Defense is tackling well and they're winning the turnover battle. Nice to see the offense line up with 15-20 seconds on the play clock rather than 5 seconds.

The Bad: O-Line still feels shaky, and the offense overall feels out of sync.

The Ugly: No pass rush from the defense. At all.

[cuervo72]

I never know who to root for in this matchup this early. I typically lean Giants, but you never know if the Cowboys are going to pull a turkey for the season.

[Abe Sargent]

let's go Giants!



Does that help?

[kingfc22]

But no ejection

That should be an automatic suspension. I'd say it should go 4 games or more, but as I don't think the NFL has a policy on how long they can suspend someone for on field violence, it'll get overturned in court if they don't just fine him 25k.

And how is this jackass still in the league...

[ColtCrazy]

Rumors persist that Grigson and Pagano do not get along. That isn't going to help this year's cohesion. If the Colts weren't in the AFC South, I'd be more pessimistic about the season. Think they'll still win the division, but there's no deep run for a team with such a mediocre defense. Grigson has build an impressive offense (that will gel though Hilton being hurt now doesn't help), but has not helped the defense. No pass rush will expose an average secondary. Pagano, despite going 11-5 each year and going one step farther in the playoffs each time, will get canned and we'll keep the wrong guy, Grigson.

I'm with Pilot that this is the least excited I've been for the season that I can remember. Maybe it was the drug out Pats story. It probably didn't help that all this emphasis on Fan Duel with the networks seem to put the focus on fantasy rather than strategy.

[sabotai]

If Preston Parker really is the Giants' best 3rd WR (well, 4th, with Cruz out), I'm terrified to see what #4 and #5 would be like out there...

[Abe Sargent]

Good job McBride!!!

[Solecismic]

Poor Romo. He's actually looked fairly good today. And I think they'll call that an interception. But not a pick-6, it seems.

[Marmel]

That will be one of the most fun plays of the year. The hit, the fumble, the return and a few Cowboys getting blown up on the return including Romo. Good stuff! :lol:

[MikeVic]

If Preston Parker really is the Giants' best 3rd WR (well, 4th, with Cruz out), I'm terrified to see what #4 and #5 would be like out there...

Didn't understand why they cut James Jones.

[Chief Rum]

Joe Buck has the nerve to admonish the public for making the McCarthy comments a big deal? Pot. Meet. Black.

Okay, maybe this is something super-obvious and I'm just tired and not remembering...

...but what the heck are you talking about? Which Mccarthy and what comments?

[sabotai]

Absolutely love seeing Jennings tuck that ball tight when a defender gets close.

Love him even more for grabbing Flowers and pulling him away after Mincey's shot.

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, maybe this is something super-obvious and I'm just tired and not remembering...

...but what the heck are you talking about? Which Mccarthy and what comments?

I didn't know either

[Solecismic]

It does seem like NBC is trying to figure out what flavor gum Coughlin is chomping like a 3-year-old.

[TroyF]

Poor Romo. He's actually looked fairly good today. And I think they'll call that an interception. But not a pick-6, it seems.


I thought the pacing of the Dallas offense was horrible tonight. For the first 3.5 quarters, it was lollygag to the line, drain the clock to 1 and snap the ball.

If you are the better team, you want more plays, not less. The less plays equals more variance. They pick up the pace on that last drive and went right down the field and scored a TD. Too late.

They acted like they didn't give a damn and it burned them. Giants didn't look good, but they were good enough.

[kingfc22]

If The Giants managed the clock correctly this game is over.

[Solecismic]

The pacing is more a coach thing. As is whoever thought Eli should leave the pocket on third down with no time outs left. What a terrible play call. Just dive if the receiver isn't wide open.

[cartman]

I was led to believe that Romo sucks.

[BillJasper]

Wow. Whoever called that third down pass play, wouldn't have a job tomorrow. That was just flat ridiculous.

[TroyF]

I thought the pacing of the Dallas offense was horrible tonight. For the first 3.5 quarters, it was lollygag to the line, drain the clock to 1 and snap the ball.

If you are the better team, you want more plays, not less. The less plays equals more variance. They pick up the pace on that last drive and went right down the field and scored a TD. Too late.

They acted like they didn't give a damn and it burned them. Giants didn't look good, but they were good enough.

wasn't blaming Romo, was just stating I hated the strategy.

As far as the rest of my post. . . DOH!!!!!!!

Wow.

[EagleFan]

Giants screwed themselves. Should have run the ball on 3rd and then on 4th. At worst they are up 3 with about 35-40 seconds left and the Cowboys starting at their own 1.

[BillJasper]

I can't believe Coughlin didn't call his own timeout when that call came from the offensive coordinator.

[sabotai]

Collingsworth did bring up a good point (holy shit). If the pass wasn't there, Eli could have taken the sack/taken a knee, and the result still would have been the same as a running play with the clock ticking.

[hoopsguy]

I was led to believe that Romo sucks.

Only if they had lost tonight. When he wins, it isn't a big game. When he loses, it is because he is a choker.

[BillJasper]

Collingsworth did bring up a good point (holy shit). If the pass wasn't there, Eli could have taken the sack/taken a knee, and the result still would have been the same as a running play with the clock ticking.

But why even screw around with it. I'd have had Manning run backwards ten yards then kneel before ever calling a pass play in that situation.

[Solecismic]

I only wish Brandon Marshall were a Giant and could be interviewed right now.

I hope Dallas appreciates Romo, because that was a great performance. Maybe the Giants have a lousy secondary, but it was a physical game and Romo held up.

[EagleFan]

Collingsworth did bring up a good point (holy shit). If the pass wasn't there, Eli could have taken the sack/taken a knee, and the result still would have been the same as a running play with the clock ticking.

Yep, at that point kick the field goal to go up 6 and they have a great shot with only about 35 seconds left after the kickoff. Though I would have gone with 2 runs up the gut. :)

[BillJasper]

Giants are going to have a rough year. You can't expect that kind of performance from your defense every week.

[EagleFan]

Only if they had lost tonight. When he wins, it isn't a big game. When he loses, it is because he is a choker.

He's a bum...

[TroyF]

Yep, at that point kick the field goal to go up 6 and they have a great shot with only about 35 seconds left after the kickoff. Though I would have gone with 2 runs up the gut. :)


Ditto. I'd have ran it twice up the gut. At worst, the Cowboys have 35 seconds left to drive from their goalposts about 70 yards just for the chance to kick a field goal.

Seriously, that has to be some of the worst clock management I've ever seen in an NFL game.

[cartman]

Sounds like Dez is out until the Cowboys bye week.

[sabotai]

Sometimes players stick around too long for their own good. They don't retire even when their body and mind are begging them to.

I think I had a good run as a "fan". 4 Super Bowl wins is a pretty good "fan" career. I think it's time for me to retire from fandom. I just centered my entire Sunday night around this game, and right now all I can think about is all of the things I could have done instead. My mood has been entirely ruined by 1 bad play call and 1 bad penalty (DPI on DRC)...(and some lousy defensive play on the last two Cowboys drives. That 3rd down play was bad, but the defense on the last two drives was downright horrible. Can't forget that.).

Honestly, I'm not just pouting (although, could you blame me? :) ). I've felt this way over the last few years even when the Giants won. When the game is on, I'm fine but once it's over, I feel shitty and depressed. Like I just wasted away a day over something that doesn't matter.

Yeah, I think I should just retire from fandom for my own mental health. I've had a good career.

...

...

See you guys in next week's thread. :)

[kingfc22]

Hate the Cowboys but that saved my Survivor pool entry. So there's that.

[sabotai]

Seriously, that has to be some of the worst clock management I've ever seen in an NFL game.

And it wasn't just the 3rd down play. It's was great to see the Giants get to the line with 20 seconds on the play clock and snapping it with 10-15 seconds on (after years of seeming them get to the line with 5-7 seconds and always hurrying to get the play off), but they were still doing it late in the 4th quarter.

On the Giants last drive, they had clock issues. They finally got it right when everyone was lined up and the 40s on the play clock and the 4:20 on the game clock started. The giants snapped the ball with like 15-20 seconds left on the play clock. So there's 15-20 seconds they could have taken off. And they snapped the ball with 10-15 seconds on the play clock (with the game clock running) on a few other plays as well.

This whole thing with the 3rd down pass play wouldn't have happened if they had run the clock down more on those plays because the Cowboys would have been out of time outs and there would have been under a minute to go, with the clock running, on that 3rd down play.

I had a bad feeling time was going to bite them in the ass when I saw them snapping the ball with 10+ seconds on the play clock. The 3rd down pass play was just a massive shit cherry on top...

[cartman]

Arts and Crafts Romo beats Bad Comedian Eli

[BYU 14]

Giants screwed themselves. Should have run the ball on 3rd and then on 4th. At worst they are up 3 with about 35-40 seconds left and the Cowboys starting at their own 1.

Coughlin was wrong letting that call go in and Manning should have just fallen down when the play was covered.

No excuse from a veteran coach and a veteran QB, this loss is on them.

[stevew]

Facegaurding is NOT a penalty in the NFL or college. Only some HS states have it.

When I watched the play live, I was sure it was PI and I was sure it was going to be 1st and 2 Ravens with them winning the game. Watching the replay, he was never touched. It was clean and it was an INT.

We'll see more about Manning as the year goes on. I think the arm strength thing was way overblown today. Denver didn't run the ball at all outside of the first and last drive. The offensive line was a disaster for most of the game.

it's going to be a brutal week this week. We look banged up. Chiefs will be out for blood. I still love our defense against the KC offense, but I'm not very confident about the other side yet. I hope the OLine gels.

Eh, I only watched it live and I guess they were just lucky the ref had a great angle.

Aqib Talib looks so much like Snoop Dogg I really wonder if they're related.

[TroyF]

Eh, I only watched it live and I guess they were just lucky the ref had a great angle.

Aqib Talib looks so much like Snoop Dogg I really wonder if they're related.

I only know the facegaurd rule because I kept hearing announcers talk about it and wanted to see what the rule was. It is perfectly legal. It is important to turn and look for the ball, because you can have some contact if you are fighting for the ball. (See the Ravens int today)

Yeah, we are lucky they called it right. If we had the ref who called the Giants for PI, we would have been screwed.

[Senator]

Nice job boys

[JAG]

I thought the pacing of the Dallas offense was horrible tonight. For the first 3.5 quarters, it was lollygag to the line, drain the clock to 1 and snap the ball.

If you are the better team, you want more plays, not less. The less plays equals more variance. They pick up the pace on that last drive and went right down the field and scored a TD. Too late.

They acted like they didn't give a damn and it burned them. Giants didn't look good, but they were good enough.

That was what Dallas did on offense all last year. Not entirely sure what the logic is, but possibly protecting the defense or allowing Romo more time to dissect what is being done defensively.

[miami_fan]

Okay, maybe this is something super-obvious and I'm just tired and not remembering...

...but what the heck are you talking about? Which Mccarthy and what comments?

Packers coach defends 'kick Chicago's ass' comment | Chicago Sun-Times (http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football/7/71/945290/packers-coach-defends-kick-chicagos-ass-comment)

One week ago, video captured the Packers’ head coach saying that “we will proudly stand as the 95th team in the history of the Green Bay Packers when we kick Chicago’s ass!”

As usual some people talked up the comments to be the dreaded bulletin board that would propel the Bears to the win. During the game, Buck decided to castigate those people.

[Kodos]

Suggs tore an achilles. Gone for the year.

Too bad for his domestic-violence-loving ass.

[MizzouRah]

Oh man.. when Eli dropped back to pass on that play I was screaming at the TV.

[Thomkal]

No Lathum comments on the Giants game? Has he been banned? :)

[EagleFan]

Suggs tore an achilles. Gone for the year.

Karma's a bitch...

[BillJasper]

So, is it anything goes on the field now? Jones won't be suspended, Suh won't be suspended.

[Kodos]

Suh did something again?