Official 2015 College Football Week 4 thread

[cartman]

Here's the match-ups between Top 25 teams this coming weekend:

UCLA at Arizona
Utah at Oregon

[HomerSimpson98]

I hate typing this but Texas Tech will beat TCU this weekend.

[tarcone]

Iowa plays North Texas this weekend. We should go into our game with Wiscy 4-0. Good stuff. One game better than I thought we would be.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Great test for Mizzou on the road this weekend at Kentucky. Maty really needs a rebound week.

[bob]

Ha:

MATCH MADE IN DUMPSTER FIRE HEAVEN

If your idea of fun is watching trains collide, feast your eyes upon Rutgers-Kansas (34) on Saturday. The Scarlet Knights (1-2) are a complete mess – their coach and best player are suspended, they dismissed six players from the team earlier this month, and they’re coming off consecutive losses. And yet they’re favored by two touchdowns over the inept Jayhawks. Wow.

Kansas couldn’t win at home against South Dakota or Memphis, so now it takes its rickety show on the road – a place where the Jayhawks have lost 30 consecutive times. David Beaty, the fifth Kansas coach since 2009 (if you include 2014 interim Cliff Bowen) walked straight into quicksand taking this job. The only humane thing the school can do is give him a minimum of five years to dig out, because Year 1 stands a solid chance of ending 0-12.

Dash pick: Rutgers 2, Kansas 0.

Forde-Yard Dash: College football's most overpaid, underpaid coaches - Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-yard-dash--college-football-s-most-overpaid--underpaid-coaches-050823033-ncaaf.html)

[miked]

Be careful, that non-walk on caliber player Laviano just led Rutgers to a successful 3 point showing on the road against PSU. Oh, and the RU defense allowed 300+ rushing yards. I actually would root for RU to lose if meant Flood would be canned. But alas, the person in charge of his fate is in even more hot water.

[Kodos]

I think we're all Arizona fans this weekend.

[Eaglesfan27]

I think we're all Arizona fans this weekend.

:D

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Whoops. Maty not making too many friends when he's battling a home state hero for the QB job......

Maty Mauk had some words for the fans who booed him on Saturday.

"That's why they're up in the stands and I'm down on the field."

[Easy Mac]

I assume he'll hold the same attitude when he starts sitting in the stands next year.

[JPhillips]

Whoops. Maty not making too many friends when he's battling a home state hero for the QB job......

I'm so old I remember when Maty was a hero.

[Kodos]

Guys! Don't Mauk him!

[Marmel]

Syracuse to shock the world on Saturday............by keeping it within 30. Ok, 40.

[MrBug708]

:D

You were awfully quiet this weekend :)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Auburn switches QBs, to start Sean White over Johnson.

So now lemme see here ...
Bama & Auburn & Florida & South Carolina all with QB questions.
I guess Missouri goes on that list as well now?
Georgia had plenty of questions until last week (and, I predict, will have them again within a few weeks)
Ole Miss answered their questions with a transfer.

Roughly half the conference with uncertainty at the position, almost feels like "can anybody here play this game" going on at a lot of places, moreso than usual anyway.

[HomerSimpson98]

lets not forget Ohio State as well

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Auburn switches QBs, to start Sean White over Johnson.

So now lemme see here ...
Bama & Auburn & Florida & South Carolina all with QB questions.
I guess Missouri goes on that list as well now?
Georgia had plenty of questions until last week (and, I predict, will have them again within a few weeks)
Ole Miss answered their questions with a transfer.

Roughly half the conference with uncertainty at the position, almost feels like "can anybody here play this game" going on at a lot of places, moreso than usual anyway.

Mizzou's real issue right now is that the entire staff knows they have the 'next great thing' in a freshman. They're getting him involved right away because they believe there is no doubt that this kid is a 3-and-done 1st round drafted player, so they're going ahead and playing him this year looking to have him as the starter possibly later this year and definitely in 2016 and 2017.

Maty Mauk just hasn't moved forward like he should. He's a tough kid with an attitude, but compared to the freshman, his arm and decision-making abilities just don't compare as well.

[JonInMiddleGA]

lets not forget Ohio State as well

Oh I'm sure we could add in a bunch of others, I just kept it in one conference like that because that was how it struck me, that there's was a distinct trend underway that I could really spot.

I imagine it's mostly cyclical, just seeing it concentrated like that heightened my awareness.

[MrBug708]

Chris Clark is officially transferring. Mora says no to the Michigan coaches

[HomerSimpson98]

Oh I'm sure we could add in a bunch of others, I just kept it in one conference like that because that was how it struck me, that there's was a distinct trend underway that I could really spot.

I imagine it's mostly cyclical, just seeing it concentrated like that heightened my awareness.

Right. I was mentioning them because the Bucks have QB questions and they are pretty much the consensus numero uno. Cant remember a time where the top tiered teams of CFB have such question marks at QB. Unfortunately, I think A&M will be lumped into this soon.

[General Mike]

Ha:

MATCH MADE IN DUMPSTER FIRE HEAVEN

If your idea of fun is watching trains collide, feast your eyes upon Rutgers-Kansas (34) on Saturday. The Scarlet Knights (1-2) are a complete mess – their coach and best player are suspended, they dismissed six players from the team earlier this month, and they’re coming off consecutive losses. And yet they’re favored by two touchdowns over the inept Jayhawks. Wow.

Kansas couldn’t win at home against South Dakota or Memphis, so now it takes its rickety show on the road – a place where the Jayhawks have lost 30 consecutive times. David Beaty, the fifth Kansas coach since 2009 (if you include 2014 interim Cliff Bowen) walked straight into quicksand taking this job. The only humane thing the school can do is give him a minimum of five years to dig out, because Year 1 stands a solid chance of ending 0-12.

Dash pick: Rutgers 2, Kansas 0.

Forde-Yard Dash: College football's most overpaid, underpaid coaches - Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-yard-dash--college-football-s-most-overpaid--underpaid-coaches-050823033-ncaaf.html)

Pat Forde is a tool.

Be careful, that non-walk on caliber player Laviano just led Rutgers to a successful 3 point showing on the road against PSU. Oh, and the RU defense allowed 300+ rushing yards. I actually would root for RU to lose if meant Flood would be canned. But alas, the person in charge of his fate is in even more hot water.

Flood will get fired anyway, unless he finds some way to win 7 games, which isn't happening.

[CU Tiger]

Auburn switches QBs, to start Sean White over Johnson.

So now lemme see here ...
Bama & Auburn & Florida & South Carolina all with QB questions.
I guess Missouri goes on that list as well now?
Georgia had plenty of questions until last week (and, I predict, will have them again within a few weeks)
Ole Miss answered their questions with a transfer.

Roughly half the conference with uncertainty at the position, almost feels like "can anybody here play this game" going on at a lot of places, moreso than usual anyway.


It seems the only SEC teams with god QBs have QBs ACC teams rejected...

[JonInMiddleGA]

It seems the only SEC teams with god QBs have QBs ACC teams rejected...

Well Dobbs ain't bad. And Prescott has his moments. (he wasn't a transfer at any point was he?)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Pat Forde is a tool.

In this case, though, he happens to have it pretty spot on. Those ARE dumpster fire programs

[CU Tiger]

Well Dobbs ain't bad. And Prescott has his moments. (he wasn't a transfer at any point was he?)

Point taken on Prescott.
We will agree to disagree on Dobbs.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Point taken on Prescott.
We will agree to disagree on Dobbs.

Dobbs just seems young to me. Good vision, cerebral with athleticism. He has the tools to be special ... whether he will be so consistently though {shrug} That's a matter of time to tell. He's certainly the most potential I've seen at the position in Knoxville in a couple decades.

[MrBug708]

Ucla loses their third defensive starter of the year, Myles Jack

[Chief Rum]

Ucla loses their third defensive starter of the year, Myles Jack

Burying the lead there, Bug. Let me help.

Shit. We have some talent on defense and Jack could sometimes play out of control, but that's one heck of a loss, losing a Butkus award candidate.

[CU Tiger]

Burying the lede there, Bug.



FIFY

[Chief Rum]

FIFY

That's funny, I never saw it spelled that way before, and I actually worked as a reporter and went to school for print journalism. And yet looking it up on the never wrong Internet seems to back you up.

Go figure. Thanks CU.

[CU Tiger]

LOL...just picking...and if its up to me to find grammar/spelling mistakes the world is doomed.

[Butter]

That's funny, I never saw it spelled that way before, and I actually worked as a reporter and went to school for print journalism. And yet looking it up on the never wrong Internet seems to back you up.

Go figure. Thanks CU.

If it helps, I don't understand why it's spelled like that either.

[MizzouRah]

Great test for Mizzou on the road this weekend at Kentucky. Maty really needs a rebound week.

You're not kidding.. I think Drew is going to start getting more reps.. although we don't have much in the way of WR's and it's tough only having one back that's been out.

[Galaril]

Air Force at Navy and for those who served/ attended one of these academies it is the only game this weekend:-) Go Falcons!

[Dutch]

Not an Air Force fan, per se, but...Go Falcons!

[digamma]

Crazy that the winner of Air Force-Navy has won the CiC trophy the last 18 seasons. Poor Army.

[Galaril]

Crazy that the winner of Air Force-Navy has won the CiC trophy the last 18 seasons. Poor Army.

Yeah they have not fair well in a long long time. I have a few season tickets for AFA home games and am looking forward to the Army game. Navy scares the crap out of me and we battle but Army though they battle they always seem to do something dumb to lose if it is close. I remember I think it was in 2013 they had scored a TD in the closing seconds and successful got the two point conversion to go up by one on a QB keeper. But, the QB taunted the Air force defenders with the ball and bam 15 yard penalty and by the rules the play was canceled out, ball pushed out 15 yards so they had no choice but to kick the extra point to get the tie and head into OT. The extra point was blocked and AF won by one point and retained the CIC trophy after beating Navy that year.

[digamma]

Good for you, Dabo (http://theclemsoninsider.com/2015/09/23/another-reason-to-love-swinney-clemson/).

[Eaglesfan27]

Rumors out there that Lane Kiffin is going to be fired. Rumors out there that he slept with a booster's wife or Saban's daughter...

[Chief Rum]

Rumors out there that Lane Kiffin is going to be fired. Rumors out there that he slept with a booster's wife or Saban's daughter...

I saw a rumor he also got into a physical fight with Saban.

I'm sure once he is fired, he will then be hired as the Pats OC or something like that, cuz he only falls up.

[BishopMVP]

I saw a rumor he also got into a physical fight with Saban.

I'm sure once he is fired, he will then be hired as the Pats OC or something like that, cuz he only falls up.Nah, we already have an ex-boy wonder OC who likes to throw it too much with the lead. Although ours at least appears to be a little bit humbled by his high-profile failure.

[cartman]

Gunner Kiel got destroyed on a hit in the Memphis-Cincy game. He got carted off on a stretcher.

[MrBug708]

Rumors out there that Lane Kiffin is going to be fired. Rumors out there that he slept with a booster's wife or Saban's daughter...

I'm sure there are some great coed banging stories between Pete, Sark, and Lane. Poor Norm

[BillJasper]

Rumors out there that Lane Kiffin is going to be fired. Rumors out there that he slept with a booster's wife or Saban's daughter...

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[Suicane75]

Gunner Kiel got destroyed on a hit in the Memphis-Cincy game. He got carted off on a stretcher.

I'm surprised he was even playing given his concussion on Saturday.

[BillJasper]

Virginia getting whupped by Boise State.

[Atocep]

Virginia getting whupped by Boise State.

I don't see London surviving this year. It's not often you see a coach get 6 years with 1 winning season anymore.

[MizzouRah]

Virginia getting whupped by Boise State.

That was a whoopin!

[TroyF]

Whoops. Maty not making too many friends when he's battling a home state hero for the QB job......


I remember when I commented on him and said he was horrible and the Mizzou fans told me I how great he was going to be. I actually watched some of the UConn vs Mizzou game last weekend and was shocked. Not that he sucked, I knew that, but the fact he hasn't developed even a little bit from the horror show I watched when I first saw him.

Don't snip at the fans when you suck Maty, it isn't good form. It's actually quite stupid.

[MrBug708]

Gameday signs :)

"Hillary wears addidas"
Josh Rosen isn't circumcised!
Jim Mora waters his lawn

[Dutch]

Punt Returners have always irked me. The decision to let the ball go inside the 10 yard line seems so basic. Yet, here we are again, the South Carolina punt returner starts off at his 15....back-pedals to the 1....still tries to make the play on the ball as it falls to the Earth....hits off his hands and it's UCF ball at the spot of the muff.

Nothing good comes from back-pedaling inside the 10...sans freak luck plays.

All football punt returners should know and understand this and yet there are so many that don't.

[Easy Mac]

As a Furman fan, this Carolina game is making me smile

[tarcone]

just got home and turned on Michigan. Looks like Rudock got some good coaching. Makes me wonder about Iowa even more.

[JPhillips]

I think Michigan beats one of MSU and OSU.

[tarcone]

I agree

[britrock88]

Interesting contrast in toggling between Michigan's coming-out party and UNC's struggle hosting Delaware. Slightly confusing in that you have teams whose unis are as similar as M and Delaware's (and BYU and UNC's whites aren't terribly dissimilar, either).

[JonInMiddleGA]

A stellar performance by GT today. Simply fucking stellar.

[bob]

I can't wait to see what the CPJ fans say about this.

Of course, on the forums, the refs again fucked Tech.

I really hate being part of the fanbase.

[Dutch]

A stellar performance by GT today. Simply fucking stellar.

Just when I think I have this game figured out...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Just when I think I have this game figured out...

Undertalented & undercoached tends to come crashing down. Last year's fluke was fun, but today was no surprise to me at all.

[JPhillips]

Horseshoe?

Broncos' foot!

Horseshoe?

Broncos' foot!

[Solecismic]

A nice pre-season in Ann Arbor. Harbaugh has given this team a completely new identity. Time for some irrational exuberance.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Y'know, I'll give credit to Syracuse. They put up more of a fight than I would have expected, props to 'em for that.

[stevew]

So this Western Michigan coach PJ Fleck is going to be a big deal some day, right?

[JPhillips]

Ohio State looks flat again.

[stevew]

Ohio State looks flat again.

The ref sounds a whole lot like Donald Trump

[stevew]

Western Michigan's kicker blows.

[JonInMiddleGA]

For one small town in north Georgia, this is a highlight for the ages. 1st career touchdown for freshman RB Shannon Brooks, a pretty good example of why he's my HS alma mater's career rushing leader, very much what he spent four years doing at PHS.

Shannon Brooks 40-Yard Touchdown vs. Ohio - YouTube (https://youtu.be/koRJJkfh_YY)

[tarcone]

Iowa abusing North Texas.
A couple interesting notes. N Texas coach and starting QB are both Iowa City natives.

Bring on Wiscy.

[tarcone]

Texas tech looking good.

[MrBug708]

This TCU-TTU game is great

[tarcone]

Iowa ends up winning 62-16. We have a QB and a RB. A great D line and a kicker that is out of this world.

I'm already looking forward to the game next week

Lungs, I'm free if you got an extra ticket.

[tarcone]

Texas just blew it

[JonInMiddleGA]

Another week, another week of watching Butch "Midmajor was my skill level" Jones get outcoached.

It's not Derek Dumbass bad but it's not meaningful in a major conference, and I see no reason to think it ever will be. Jones simply isn't smart enough -- at coaching nor at hiring a staff -- to be "that guy".

Ryan McGee Twitter feed covers it well
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP3cc6AWEAIM_Pd.jpg

[BishopMVP]

So this Western Michigan coach PJ Fleck is going to be a big deal some day, right?He'll be rowing that boat in the Big Ten soon enough. Is Maryland ready to move on from Edsall yet? Rutgers could certainly do worse too.This TCU-TTU game is great

Half great offense, half poor tackling imo.

re: the Gameday signs I preferred the 'Beats by Diddy' with pictures of kettlebells myself.

[Atocep]

Remember when there were people that thought Edsall was a good coach?

[BishopMVP]

Remember when there were people that thought Edsall was a good coach?Guilty. Seemed competent at UConn. I'm shocked a team he's coaching is this bad defensively.

[Atocep]

Guilty. Seemed competent at UConn. I'm shocked a team he's coaching is this bad defensively.

I was a believer early on at UConn. His last few years though he was more or less putting the same team on the field every year and he never fixed his issues. He's actually regressed at Maryland because you were always able to count on him putting a good front 7 out there defensively.

Watching today was ugly. That was a team with no discipline and I don't think I've seen a quarterback and his receivers argue and point at each other that much.
.

[JPhillips]

What a killer ending for Texas Tech.

[tarcone]

Wow. Poor Texas tech. Crazy ending.

[Buccaneer]

I think Texas Tech would've scored if it wasn't for that last backwards lateral. Crazy.

[cuervo72]

Remember when there were people that thought Edsall was a good coach?

I am pretty sure Morgado is still pissed with how Fridge got the ax.

[BillJasper]

Texas A&M defense is in trouble.

[BishopMVP]

Texas A&M defense is in trouble.

Myles Garrett covers up a lot of flaws.

EDIT - Not in the kicking game though.

Btw, would winning at Alabama, then losing at home to Vanderbilt be the biggest two week swing in recent CFB history?

[BillJasper]

I have a feeling that Bret Bielema will be looking for a job in the offseason.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I was a believer early on at UConn.

Put me in that same camp. And I probably hung onto it longer under the notion that "okay, it's not him, it's the school/program/location" when it stagnated.

[Atocep]

I have a feeling that Bret Bielema will be looking for a job in the offseason.

Could be a busy offseason for coaching hires. Maryland, Tennessee, Arkansas, Virginia, Texas, Rutgers, and South Carolina could be looking at openings.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Could be a busy offseason for coaching hires. Maryland, Tennessee, Arkansas, Virginia, Texas, Rutgers, and South Carolina could be looking at openings.

Nah, UT will hang onto Butch until at least the middle of next season (I mean, barring something weirder than losses) By this time NEXT year we'll see them close to making a move however.

[BishopMVP]

Nah, UT will hang onto Butch until at least the middle of next season (I mean, barring something weirder than losses) By this time NEXT year we'll see them close to making a move however.

Hah - by UT I thought you meant Texas. That's the one that stands out to me- no way they fire Charlie Strong this early after all the house cleaning he did last offseason. I also don't think SC will ever fire Spurrier - although they might start pushing him to retire behind the scenes. A couple PAC-12 heavyweights could actually be on that list if things fall apart at USC or Oregon.

[Atocep]

Hah - by UT I thought you meant Texas. That's the one that stands out to me- no way they fire Charlie Strong this early after all the house cleaning he did last offseason. I also don't think SC will ever fire Spurrier - although they might start pushing him to retire behind the scenes. A couple PAC-12 heavyweights could actually be on that list if things fall apart at USC or Oregon.

Charlie is in a weird spot. I wouldn't really be surprised either way. If the season goes particularly bad in Austin the new AD may decide to cut bait and bring his own guy in. The change in AD and the fact that Strong looks out of his element thus far is why I think it's a possibility.

Spurrier won't get fired, but both he and Beamer may be nudged into retirement after this year.

[cartman]

Texas just blew it

Just got back from the game. The punter was directly in front of us when he failed to field the snap. Unbelievable that two special teams gaffes two weeks in a row cost them games.

It probably sounds like sour grapes, but I would have said the same thing if Texas won. That was one of the worst officiated games I'd ever been to. Not just bad/missed calls, but constantly throughout the game the crew kept getting confused on where to spot the ball. There were at least two or three times on each drive where they had to call official time outs and get together to discuss down and distance and timing issues.

[tarcone]

Mizzou done. Oregon done. Arizona done.

Crazy games tonight.

And Bielema needs to get his act together before he gets to Iowa.

[BishopMVP]

Charlie is in a weird spot. I wouldn't really be surprised either way. If the season goes particularly bad in Austin the new AD may decide to cut bait and bring his own guy in. The change in AD and the fact that Strong looks out of his element thus far is why I think it's a possibility.

Spurrier won't get fired, but both he and Beamer may be nudged into retirement after this year.

Texas is two hilariously bad special teams plays from going to OT in two losses, and ND with Zaire at QB was a legit top 5 team. Plus he kicked all those players off and has a lot of freshmen playing. (Also, it shouldn't matter, but as I saw with Ty Willingham, firing a black coach can bring on a whole lot of "racist" accusations.) Texas has enough money to do whatever, but unless Saban or Chip Kelly is going there who's the slam dunk hire they have lined up that will definitely do better than Strong, who has a good track record from UL and a young team? I think keeping him at least one more year is a no-brainer, then maybe one of those two stars looks more likely or a Chad Morris or Tom Herman looks like a no-brainer hire.

Beamer should just stay on as a figurehead while Bud Foster is the real head coach. Then spend an extra $500k to hire a young innovative OC.

[BishopMVP]

Mizzou done. Oregon done. Arizona done.

Crazy games tonight.

And Bielema needs to get his act together before he gets to Iowa.If you think Kirk Ferentz's consistent 8-9 win seasons are disappointing, I can't imagine why you'd want to hire Bielema. Although Big Ten land is probably the last place left where even the HS coaches support using a fullback.

[TroyF]

Just got back from the game. The punter was directly in front of us when he failed to field the snap. Unbelievable that two special teams gaffes two weeks in a row cost them games.

It probably sounds like sour grapes, but I would have said the same thing if Texas won. That was one of the worst officiated games I'd ever been to. Not just bad/missed calls, but constantly throughout the game the crew kept getting confused on where to spot the ball. There were at least two or three times on each drive where they had to call official time outs and get together to discuss down and distance and timing issues.


Not only that, they consistently missed the numbers of the players who did the infractions they called. The announcers kept looking at the players the ref "announced"
as the violator and I'm screaming at the TV that it wasn't being called on the player they said so stop showing the other guy. It had to have happened 6 or 7 times.

I have no idea what the defensive holding call on Texas was (but it was a really, really poor coaching move of Strong to lose his cool and give up that extra 15 yards)

I think something was wrong with the hand of the OSU QB. From the play or two before he dropped the ball to give Texas a TD, the ball simply stopped coming out of his hand correctly.

As an OSU fan, that was a rough, rough result on Texas. I think the refs did screw them and I feel horribly for the punter.

[Dutch]

Mississippi State with a solid performance on the road. Solid Defense, good passing....but non-existent running game will haunt them eventually....but hopefully not next week!

[BishopMVP]

Arizona State can not catch a break. Closest 28-0 halftime game I've seen in a while.

EDIT - I take it back. Worst kickoff return I've ever seen. They deserve all this bad luck, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving head coach.

[tarcone]

If you think Kirk Ferentz's consistent 8-9 win seasons are disappointing, I can't imagine why you'd want to hire Bielema. Although Big Ten land is probably the last place left where even the HS coaches support using a fullback.

Bielema did a great job at Wisconsin. In fact, an outstanding job. I think with the resources Iowa has and the passion and enthusiasm he brings. He would take Iowa to a higher level.

[BillJasper]

Bielema did a great job at Wisconsin. In fact, an outstanding job. I think with the resources Iowa has and the passion and enthusiasm he brings. He would take Iowa to a higher level.

He seems like a pretty middle of the road guy. I think he's got plenty of resources at Arkansas and that hasn't stopped them from going 0-10 in games decided by 10 points or less (according to ESPN graphic).

I'm not sure bringing in another guy who believes in stone age offense is going to satisfy the people who want to run Ferentz out of town.

[lungs]

I'm already looking forward to the game next week

Lungs, I'm free if you got an extra ticket.

Should be a good barometer both teams. No tickets here, sorry :(

re: Bielema

Was decent at coaching up mid level talent into a decent team but was just an awful game day coach and a grade A douche bag (stories of his drunken escapades were not very flattering). Not many tears were shed when we left.

[Thomkal]

Coastal Carolina remained unbeaten winning 31-17 over a visiting (also undefeated) Bryant team, so a good win on the "Surf Turf"

[MizzouRah]

Great game by that Missouri offense! :banghead: :rolleyes: :deadhorse:

[JPhillips]

Coastal Carolina remained unbeaten winning 31-17 over a visiting (also undefeated) Bryant team, so a good win on the "Surf Turf"

Is your brother a Coastal guy, too? I was behind a white truck with a Coastal decal yesterday.

[tarcone]

Should be a good barometer both teams. No tickets here, sorry :(

re: Bielema

Was decent at coaching up mid level talent into a decent team but was just an awful game day coach and a grade A douche bag (stories of his drunken escapades were not very flattering). Not many tears were shed when we left.

Dang, you just described a young Ferentz minus the drunkeness. Maybe North Dakota States coach. Or who knows.
Lungs, you just popped my Bielema bubble.

[Thomkal]

Is your brother a Coastal guy, too? I was behind a white truck with a Coastal decal yesterday.

No, as far as I know neither brother up there have heard of Coastal. You should definitely make friends with that guy, sounds like a class act :)

[TroyF]

Great game by that Missouri offense! :banghead: :rolleyes: :deadhorse:


As a non Missouri fan who hasn't paid attention to anything. . . is there really nobody better than Mauck besides the kid? I mean, Pinkell is a hell of a coach. He's built up a hell of a program. All of that said, I'm not a genius by any stretch of the imagination and I could see this guy wasn't an upper program QB within about 2 games of watching him play.

(side note: the two most memorable college football games for me last year were Mizzou vs South Carolina and Clemson vs. Florida St. Both games featured QB's who were pretty terrible find ways to win the game.)

I was simply amazed Missouri had the year they had with him at QB. The QB throws for 20 yards against Florida and Mizzou wins? he throws for 97 yards and 2 INT's in the bowl game and you blow someone out? I cheer for CU, a horrific football team. I wouldn't want Maty QBing my team, I'm just stunned there is no other option from "very poor college QB" to "Top QB Prospect" on a team that good.

[murrayyyyy]

I have a feeling that Bret Bielema will be looking for a job in the offseason.

Buyout is too big so unless he leaves, we are stuck with him for 2 more years.

His fall back is we lost our best RB and every WR to injuries this year and are somehow still in games. The lack of depth on the defensive side is by giving out shit scholarships from Petrino/JL Smith two recruiting classes. Now we have FR Dbs who can't identify who a team's best WR is or when the ball is in the air.

[CU Tiger]

Another week, another week of watching Butch "Midmajor was my skill level" Jones get outcoached.

It's not Derek Dumbass bad but it's not meaningful in a major conference, and I see no reason to think it ever will be. Jones simply isn't smart enough -- at coaching nor at hiring a staff -- to be "that guy".

Ryan McGee Twitter feed covers it well
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I think he's made far more right moves than bad moves and most of all he's upgraded their talent ... substantially. Now he's got to develop it, but they've got what they need there to compete on a higher level and be a contender for the conference title in the coming years IMO. Terrible day for him yesterday. No question about that. But looking at the overall job he's done there, I would give him high marks.

This is a program that in a very short amount of time went from Phil Fulmer to Lane Kiffin to Derek Dooley and then Jones. That unto itself is a major problem for acquisition of talent. Coaching turnover is almost never good for recruiting. They've got that fixed now IMO. The rest is on the practice field, game repetitions/game experience for players (and that takes time) and it'll come. Before the season I thought they could be a 8/9 win team this year and I still think that's possible, though they will probably have to get it with the bowl game.

And he's still coaching with players recruited by the previous regime. He's in the first month of his third season. He's going to win there. He's got to get more time and they're going to give it to him. They've had plenty of coaching turnover since they pushed Fulmer out the door and that didn't work. Tennessee is recruiting as well as it has since it last won the national title.



Texas is two hilariously bad special teams plays from going to OT in two losses, and ND with Zaire at QB was a legit top 5 team. Plus he kicked all those players off and has a lot of freshmen playing. (Also, it shouldn't matter, but as I saw with Ty Willingham, firing a black coach can bring on a whole lot of "racist" accusations.) Texas has enough money to do whatever, but unless Saban or Chip Kelly is going there who's the slam dunk hire they have lined up that will definitely do better than Strong, who has a good track record from UL and a young team? I think keeping him at least one more year is a no-brainer, then maybe one of those two stars looks more likely or a Chad Morris or Tom Herman looks like a no-brainer hire.


I agree Strong deserves a couple more years. I am not sure he gets them.

Even though Chad is an aTm grad, I suspect he has always viewed UT as the Ultimate coaching destination, though I doubt you'd ever get those words out of his mouth.

I also don't think SC will ever fire Spurrier - although they might start pushing him to retire behind the scenes.

Spurrier actually wanted to and even attempted to retire last year before SC talked him into coming back. The power play here is he wants SOSjr to be the next coach. Has promised all sorts of things if SC will promise that. Ray Tanner (the back-to-back-to-almost back) baseball national champ coach from a couple years ago is the AD now. By most accounts he is over his head as an AD, and no one bosses Spurrier anyway so...it's a train wreck looking for a bend in the track down there. As a despise-er of SC I hop he hangs around a couple more years and truly leaves the place in shambles equal or worse to those he found them.
Side note SOS JR embarrassed himself Friday night in my and many other local's opinions. His daughter was in the homecoming court of her local high school. Far as I can tell this varies a bit regionally, but around here the homecoming court are escorted by their parents not other students. There were 12 girls in the HC court and 10 dads/grandads escorting them. (2 Moms...quite the good turnout) of the 10 dads 9 wore jackets and ties. Sure a few looked borrowed or rarely used..but not Stevie Jr...nope. He wore SC under armour warm-ups and a ball cap to escort his daughter. What is that saying about money and class?


Finally, major shout out to my personal target Scott Shaeffer. For as much shit as I love to heap on him Cuse played out of their mind this weekend. Really showed up more than I anticipated.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I think he's made far more right moves than bad moves and most of all he's upgraded their talent ... substantially.

If he keeps choking every time the pressure is on with the lights on, all that talent won't matter.

Before the season I thought they could be a 8/9 win team this year and I still think that's possible, though they will probably have to get it with the bowl game.

I had their ceiling at 7, 8 with breaks. Now? 6 feels more likely.

He's got to get more time and they're going to give it to him.

After yesterday I disagree. Barring a tremendous winning streak this season, the fanbase is already pretty much over a guy that's being nicknamed "Botch". As a popular phrase put it yesterday, all the "bricks" don't matter if there's no mortar. And he appears to be too watery a mix to actually build anything with, the gameday coaching is atrocious and they're being outcoached at halftime pretty badly. Overhauling the staff this offseason will get him into next year easily but if 6-7 wins is the pace, he won't be around to play Vanderbilt next season. He looks like his ceiling is mid-major and that just isn't going to come close to cutting it.

Every bit of the optimism around the program appears to be gone, any good he has done to date -- and they have at least improved since the embarrassment of the Derek Dumbass era, I'll give that much without hesitation -- all of the good will he might have built has now been spent with two epic collapses. He's back at square one, and I seem to be far from alone in feeling that way.


Finally, major shout out to my personal target Scott Shaeffer. For as much shit as I love to heap on him Cuse played out of their mind this weekend. Really showed up more than I anticipated.

Agree completely. I was more impressed by their performance in a loss than by a lot of teams that got W's.

[MizzouRah]

As a non Missouri fan who hasn't paid attention to anything. . . is there really nobody better than Mauck besides the kid? I mean, Pinkell is a hell of a coach. He's built up a hell of a program. All of that said, I'm not a genius by any stretch of the imagination and I could see this guy wasn't an upper program QB within about 2 games of watching him play.

(side note: the two most memorable college football games for me last year were Mizzou vs South Carolina and Clemson vs. Florida St. Both games featured QB's who were pretty terrible find ways to win the game.)

I was simply amazed Missouri had the year they had with him at QB. The QB throws for 20 yards against Florida and Mizzou wins? he throws for 97 yards and 2 INT's in the bowl game and you blow someone out? I cheer for CU, a horrific football team. I wouldn't want Maty QBing my team, I'm just stunned there is no other option from "very poor college QB" to "Top QB Prospect" on a team that good.

You can really see his flaws with the crappy receivers we have.. and I will agree with you. We win because of our defense, that's it. I think you'll see Drew start getting more reps.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You can really see his flaws with the crappy receivers we have.. and I will agree with you. We win because of our defense, that's it. I think you'll see Drew start getting more reps.

Would be shocked if he's not starting by the end of the year. They've already played that card by not redshirting him. It's only a matter of time.

I do have to give the passing game a bit of a break. We lost one of the best rushers in the SEC in week 1 and lost four starters during last week's game. Mauk isn't playing well, but he's playing with an offense that's already half-full of backups and no running threat to keep the defense honest.

[MizzouRah]

Would be shocked if he's not starting by the end of the year. They've already played that card by not redshirting him. It's only a matter of time.

I do have to give the passing game a bit of a break. We lost one of the best rushers in the SEC in week 1 and lost four starters during last week's game. Mauk isn't playing well, but he's playing with an offense that's already half-full of backups and no running threat to keep the defense honest.

That's why you need to start being able to recruit viable backups at all positions like most SEC teams. Wishful thinking I know... Mauk has always had some top receivers, so with average receivers, you can really start to pick out his flaws... especially when you see Drew Lock and how accurate he can really be.

I knew it would be a struggle for us this year.. Brother's injury is really going to hurt. :(

[Easy Mac]

Ohio coach Frank Solich laments late penalty in 27-24 loss to Minnesota (http://m.dailyjournal.net/view/story/61a9af24803149eda5375aa6d76451ac/FBC--Ohio)

I hope this want our Sak

[Izulde]

Bielema did a great job at Wisconsin. In fact, an outstanding job. I think with the resources Iowa has and the passion and enthusiasm he brings. He would take Iowa to a higher level.

LOL. No. Bielema was terrible at Wisconsin, and rode Alvarez's coattails.

[Izulde]

UNLV set all kinds of records in whipping Idaho State's ass 80-8, netting Sanchez's first win. Division I-AA team, sure, but the Rebels have had problems with those kinds of teams the last few years.

This is one of two wins I expected on the season, so nice to get one out the gate, and finally dominate someone.

[BishopMVP]

Ohio coach Frank Solich laments late penalty in 27-24 loss to Minnesota (http://m.dailyjournal.net/view/story/61a9af24803149eda5375aa6d76451ac/FBC--Ohio)

I hope this want our SakI heard about this Saturday. I want to see video to see how long after the whistle the center snapped it before judging. I'm not sure I'd ever call delay of game when you technically have 2 minutes until play can resume, but I've definitely seen teams snap the ball and go for a practice kick after being iced when they clearly knew the play was dead.

[Butter]

It was a second or two. You can see one of the judges behind the defense coming in to stop the play definitely before the ball is snapped, but the TV mikes don't pick up the whistles at all.

And it having been broadcast on Big Ten Network, there was really no follow-up on what happened there aside from the first display.

That and the dude shanked the crap out of his practice try, so they were probably never making that kick.

[BishopMVP]

It was a second or two. You can see one of the judges behind the defense coming in to stop the play definitely before the ball is snapped, but the TV mikes don't pick up the whistles at all.

And it having been broadcast on Big Ten Network, there was really no follow-up on what happened there aside from the first display.

That and the dude shanked the crap out of his practice try, so they were probably never making that kick.Fair enough. It still seems kind of brutal to call Delay of Game when the game literally can not be restarted for at least 2 minutes.

Speaking of brutal calls, the Charlie Strong penalty that allowed OK State to get in game-tying FG territory also seemed pretty egregious. Ref appears to bump Charlie Strong before throwing crucial flag - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25318082/footage-of-charlie-strongs-late-penalty-adds-to-pain-of-texas-collapse)

[panerd]

That's why you need to start being able to recruit viable backups at all positions like most SEC teams. Wishful thinking I know... Mauk has always had some top receivers, so with average receivers, you can really start to pick out his flaws... especially when you see Drew Lock and how accurate he can really be.

I knew it would be a struggle for us this year.. Brother's injury is really going to hurt. :(

Couple of thoughts...

1) We need to pump the brakes on the Lock train already. He has looked OK coming in but I have trouble seeing what he has done (scoring wise) any different than Mauk. It isn't Mauk's fault there is no running game whatsoever.

Kentucky Game...
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
Maty Mauk 15/30 180 6.0 1 0 60.0
Drew Lock 3/5 47 9.4 0 0 39.3

UConn Game...

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
Maty Mauk 14/22 145 6.6 0 1 36.6
Drew Lock 6/9 40 4.4 0 0 54.5

Arkansas State

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
Maty Mauk 16/36 148 4.1 3 2 51.5
Drew Lock 0/1 0 0.0 0 1 0.0

2) Mauk is 17-5 as the starter. I think you and MBBF are around the same age as me. Mizzou fans booing Mauk are pretty damn fickle to ignore the past with this kid. Claiming superiority to Kentucky and expecting a win because of their name is the same BS all of the other SEC teams have been doing to us the past two years. Maybe Kentucky is a solid football team?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Maybe Kentucky is a solid football team?

Don't get carried away.

They squeaked past La-Lafayette, beat a pretty dismal SC on the road, lost a close one at home to a dazzlingly mediocre UF, and now they have a win over Mizzou.

Right now -- QB issues, injuries, running game issues -- it seems more likely that Missouri is closer to being the way UK is perceived than it is that Kentucky is a solid team.

[BishopMVP]

Couple of thoughts...

1) We need to pump the brakes on the Lock train already. He has looked OK coming in but I have trouble seeing what he has done (scoring wise) any different than Mauk.You don't think he's guaranteed to be a 1st round pick in 2018?

[MizzouRah]

Couple of thoughts...

1) We need to pump the brakes on the Lock train already. He has looked OK coming in but I have trouble seeing what he has done (scoring wise) any different than Mauk. It isn't Mauk's fault there is no running game whatsoever.

Kentucky Game...
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
Maty Mauk 15/30 180 6.0 1 0 60.0
Drew Lock 3/5 47 9.4 0 0 39.3

UConn Game...

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
Maty Mauk 14/22 145 6.6 0 1 36.6
Drew Lock 6/9 40 4.4 0 0 54.5

Arkansas State

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR
Maty Mauk 16/36 148 4.1 3 2 51.5
Drew Lock 0/1 0 0.0 0 1 0.0

2) Mauk is 17-5 as the starter. I think you and MBBF are around the same age as me. Mizzou fans booing Mauk are pretty damn fickle to ignore the past with this kid. Claiming superiority to Kentucky and expecting a win because of their name is the same BS all of the other SEC teams have been doing to us the past two years. Maybe Kentucky is a solid football team?

Lock gets one series a game.. can't really tell what he would do with a majority of the snaps in a game. It's college football.. look around.. many teams have gone to the next in line when needed. :D

At least give him a half.. I don't boo Mauk.. would just like to see what Lock can do besides one series.

[panerd]

Lock gets one series a game.. can't really tell what he would do with a majority of the snaps in a game. It's college football.. look around.. many teams have gone to the next in line when needed. :D

At least give him a half.. I don't boo Mauk.. would just like to see what Lock can do besides one series.

Yeah I wasn't saying you were booing Mauk. I was saying that the younger fans and bandwagon fans are booing and they need some perspective on the 80's and 90's Tiger teams. Mauk is 17-5 in a little less than 2 season. I don't think I saw 17 wins over the entire period I was at school there plus 3 years!

[panerd]

You don't think he's guaranteed to be a 1st round pick in 2018?

Well he does have the body style and arm and after Blaine Gabbert went in the top 10 all bets are off. :-)

[JonInMiddleGA]

At least some of you probably heard about the receiver from Southern U that suffered a serious spinal injury during the game vs UGA. Obviously local coverage of the story has been more prominent than what its gotten nationally and one of the details that I've seen more than once is that Georgia paid for the player's parents to be flown in (presumably from Louisiana)

Now let me be clear -- I've got nothing but good things to say about how UGA, individually & institutionally, has handled themselves during this. Best I can tell, there's pretty much been someone from the school or the program on hand from the ride to the hospital right through his surgery today. And from the sound of it, more than just one someone. Chaplains, athletic admin people, coaches, players, you name it.

Now, that possible misunderstanding covered, I'm curious about the rules & regs on this. Can Southern pay for a trip like that, under NCAA rules? Is there an exception that allows another program to pay for it but not the player's school/team itself? I'm guessing there's some sort of emergency situation rule(s) that applies, I'm simply curious what the rule is & how it works.

[digamma]

I think the rule only applies if he wanted and was able to play football again. At that time, I think Southern could seek a waiver for whatever violation you could come up with. If he's just a student, then he can take money from Georgia or Southern or the Saints or whoever. I would imagine that in the instant case, Georgia picked up the bill because of their considerably larger pocket book. I also saw that Richt said he'd call on Georgia fans in a crowdfunding campaign if necessary.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I think the rule only applies if he wanted and was able to play football again. At that time, I think Southern could seek a waiver for whatever violation you could come up with. If he's just a student, then he can take money from Georgia or Southern or the Saints or whoever. I would imagine that in the instant case, Georgia picked up the bill because of their considerably larger pocket book. I also saw that Richt said he'd call on Georgia fans in a crowdfunding campaign if necessary.

I think I was wondering more along the lines of whether it's something that has black letter rule -- in case of X then Y can be done -- or if it's a waiver type situation.

What really put me in the question mindset was noticing that one of the three Southern staff members that remained in Athens was their compliance director. Maybe coincidence, but also maybe a good choice.

And, again, I mean zero criticism of any of it. It's just a situation that I realized I really don't know the rules for at all.

[MizzouRah]

Yeah I wasn't saying you were booing Mauk. I was saying that the younger fans and bandwagon fans are booing and they need some perspective on the 80's and 90's Tiger teams. Mauk is 17-5 in a little less than 2 season. I don't think I saw 17 wins over the entire period I was at school there plus 3 years!

You have a point there.. I just think he's also had RB's and receivers. Well DUH.. right? I would just like to see more consistency from him, better passing and not those just throw it up.. DGB is not out there anymore. ;)