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cartman
11-02-2015, 09:27 AM
There will be three match-ups between AP Top 25 teams this weekend:
Florida State at Clemson
TCU at Oklahoma State
LSU at Alabama
Logan
11-02-2015, 09:50 AM
Brian Kelly, keeping up with the insanity.
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panerd
11-02-2015, 11:46 AM
Is that a player or an assistant coach? If its a player I see it being an issue. If it's a coach the ref is likely going to flag your assistant coach coming over and barking at him. Not sure he had to grab him by the collar but I have helped with pee wee football and know not to say anything to the refs I would think an assistant would be smarter than that as well.
Pretty sure that's the strength and conditioning coach.
tarcone
11-02-2015, 11:48 AM
Iowa travels to Indiana. This is the game I have been worried about for a few weeks.
I really hope Iowa plays like they did in the 1st half against Maryland. Because if we play like the 2nd, Indiana will blow us out.
Go Hawks!!!
Kodos
11-02-2015, 11:50 AM
I hope Howard is back at 100%, or at least close to it. Our offense is very good when he and Sudfeld are healthy.
panerd
11-02-2015, 11:52 AM
Pretty sure that's the strength and conditioning coach.
To me then it is a non issue. I'm guessing because Kelley is a bit of a chump is why it is an issue but that was a close game with national playoff implications. I don't blame Kelley forcibly removing one of his coaches from a disastrous flag.
MacroGuru
11-02-2015, 12:19 PM
BYU @ SJSU..
We need to win out to make even a hint of noise and get back in the Top 25. Right now, we are just barely on the outside looking in. This game, plus next week @ Arrowhead against Mizzou will help.
JeeberD
11-02-2015, 12:38 PM
To me then it is a non issue. I'm guessing because Kelley is a bit of a chump is why it is an issue but that was a close game with national playoff implications. I don't blame Kelley forcibly removing one of his coaches from a disastrous flag.
Brian Kelly Explains Why He Shoved One Of His Assistants (http://deadspin.com/brian-kelly-explains-why-he-shoved-one-of-his-assistant-1740040232)
MrBug708
11-02-2015, 12:46 PM
Angry McRedfaced
miami_fan
11-02-2015, 04:33 PM
To me then it is a non issue. I'm guessing because Kelley is a bit of a chump is why it is an issue but that was a close game with national playoff implications. I don't blame Kelley forcibly removing one of his coaches from a disastrous flag.
I agree it is a non issue for me. However, it is noted that once again Brian Kelley is looking a bit out of control emotionally on the sidelines for the person who is supposed to be in charge.
dawgfan
11-02-2015, 06:41 PM
I agree it is a non issue for me. However, it is noted that once again Brian Kelley is looking a bit out of control emotionally on the sidelines for the person who is supposed to be in charge.
Yep. He was correct to intervene. But he was set to 11 out of 10 when topping out at 7 would have been plenty sufficient. Intervene? Yes. Grab and shove him while in full rage mode? Err, no - take it down a couple notches.
CU Tiger
11-02-2015, 06:56 PM
Look emotional coaches are a good thing.
Out of control coaches are a bad thing.
In that moment Brian Kelly was out of control. Hard to tell a QB to remain calm and collected when his leader can't.
Look, I am an old school football guy. I played for a HS coach who would rip your face mask around while yelling and pelting your face with spittle. I love him like a father to this day.
But those days are over. Unfortunately. Its all about control and composure. Since its a private school I care less about it. If it were a public university then you have a legal obligation to uphold standards. Regardless of what we think about football. The sideline is his place of business. If a manager did that to an assistant manager he would be fired on the spot.
Does my post reflect that I'm conflicted?
Cause thats how I feel.
miami_fan
11-02-2015, 08:15 PM
CU, you are not the only one who is conflicted. I think all of us of a certain age had the hard ass coach that would do everything short of put a bullet in our ass to try to get the best of us. While I don't know what is going on on that staff, I have a feeling that he knew who he was dealing with and what he could get away with in that moment.
Let's put it this way. My impression from thousands of miles away is Brian Van Gorder is not getting that reaction in the same situation from Kelly.
JonInMiddleGA
11-02-2015, 08:34 PM
If a manager did that to an assistant manager he would be fired on the spot.
Which might be one reason (of many) a lot of assistant managers ain't worth a bucket of warm spit.
EagleFan
11-02-2015, 08:40 PM
Which might be one reason (of many) a lot of assistant managers ain't worth a bucket of warm spit.
Any manager that would do that isn't worth a damn to anyone.
JonInMiddleGA
11-02-2015, 08:52 PM
Any manager that would do that isn't worth a damn to anyone.
Meh. Situational. People respond to different motivations.
And anybody that doesn't understand that is worse than not worth a damn.
EagleFan
11-02-2015, 08:56 PM
Meh. Situational. People respond to different motivations.
And anybody that doesn't understand that is worse than not worth a damn.
That's not motivation, that's being a psychopath.
JonInMiddleGA
11-02-2015, 09:14 PM
That's not motivation, that's being a psychopath.
If they produce the desired result, I give less than a fuck what you call it. Good management involves getting the result, sometimes fear is the greatest motivator (even better on occasion is simple shock value).
It's a world that's gotten far too soft, that this is even a discussion is evidence of that.
JPhillips
11-02-2015, 09:34 PM
This would be unacceptable for any employee at Notre Dame except coaches. That should embarrass the hell out of the admin.
CU Tiger
11-02-2015, 09:57 PM
CU, you are not the only one who is conflicted. I think all of us of a certain age had the hard ass coach that would do everything short of put a bullet in our ass to try to get the best of us. While I don't know what is going on on that staff, I have a feeling that he knew who he was dealing with and what he could get away with in that moment.
Let's put it this way. My impression from thousands of miles away is Brian Van Gorder is not getting that reaction in the same situation from Kelly.
Even weirded watch the video closely.
Van Gorder is there, seemingly handling the situation when Kelly blows up. BVG looks at him like WTF, dude.
Jon think of it this way..in the military, putting your hands on a direct report for disciplinary reasons is a demotion, dating back to WWII times. They need leaders who THINK not REACT in the heat of battle. Same goes for football I think.
cuervo72
11-02-2015, 11:08 PM
Heh, was catching up on old Jeopardy! eps today and there was a question related to that.
George S. Patton slapping incidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton_slapping_incidents)
Suicane75
11-02-2015, 11:49 PM
I've watched that like 10 times now and I don't get why it's even an issue. I'd blow a fucking gasket too if an underling who had no business doing so, cost me penalty in a tight game where your already slim National Title hopes are on the line. I'd be fucking livid if I saw that and I think most rational people would too.
A Coach has enough on his mind without turning around to see a manager jaw jacking with a referee.
tarcone
11-03-2015, 06:15 PM
I'm tired of these ESPN talking heads.some dude is surprised Iowa is ranked higher than Memphis. And he said "That 10-6 win over Wisconsin was impressive." Of course he said nothing about the 40-10 win over #22 northwestern.
And Alabama #4? Are you kidding me?
One thing I don't like about college football is the bias towards traditional powers.
tarcone
11-03-2015, 07:14 PM
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EDIT: In response to Talk toyour kids about an undefeated Iowa. This is good. You will enjoy it.
BillJasper
11-03-2015, 07:19 PM
And Alabama #4? Are you kidding me?
Did you really expect them to be ranked any lower? :lol:
tarcone
11-03-2015, 07:24 PM
See the video I just posted. :)
Suicane75
11-03-2015, 08:25 PM
Those rankings are an unmitigated joke.
GoldenEagle
11-03-2015, 08:45 PM
Memphis should be ranked ahead of Iowa.
tarcone
11-03-2015, 08:48 PM
Memphis should be ranked ahead of Iowa.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Suicane75
11-03-2015, 10:09 PM
At some point they're just going to have to go a power 4 and make it automatic by winning your Conference. Having Ohio State ahead of Iowa is ridiculous, given the resumes so far.
GoldenEagle
11-03-2015, 10:21 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Iowa's schedule is charmin soft.
JonInMiddleGA
11-03-2015, 10:23 PM
At some point they're just going to have to go a power 4 and make it automatic by winning your Conference. Having Ohio State ahead of Iowa is ridiculous, given the resumes so far.
So virtually all the computers are biased as well, including pretty much all the best known ones? There are three teams with a loss ahead of Iowa, much less various unbeatens.
College Football Ranking Composite (http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm)
JonInMiddleGA
11-03-2015, 10:25 PM
Iowa's schedule is charmin soft.
In fairness to Iowa though the same can be said thus far for quite a few of the unbeatens. Sagarin for example has Iowa at 47 in SOS but that' better than the SOS to date of all the remaining unbeatens except Clemson & LSU.
Suicane75
11-03-2015, 11:47 PM
Iowa has beaten Pitt, Wisconsin and Northwestern. Ohio States best wins are Northern Illinois, Penn State and Virginia Tech. The computers can eat me.
tarcone
11-04-2015, 07:12 AM
Jeff Long used this statement when asked why Alabama is 7 spots ahead of Florida "Alabama has more wins against teams with above 500 records than Florida does. Alabama has 3 wins against above 500 teams while Florida has 2."
Oh yeah, Iowa has 3 wins against teams with above 500 records too. And is undefeated.
And speaking of Charmin soft, look at Baylors schedule.
Come with better arguments please.
Logan
11-04-2015, 07:46 AM
I saw an AP writer say that he suggested to Jeff Long, before this began, that the committee should just come out and say "we think this team is better" instead of trying to back into all these other explanations.
panerd
11-04-2015, 10:28 AM
Tarcone:
As a fan of a similar program to Iowa (Mizzou) enjoy the season and don't spend your time beating your head against the wall about perceived slights. It's nothing about Iowa to these committees the big boys (Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame) are always going to get the benefit of the doubt. If Iowa wins out they will have won a major conference and beaten either OSU or Mich St and won't be left out of the 4 team playoff.
I speak from experiance as I spent the entire 2007 wondering why not Mizzou and finally they basically had a play-in to the national title that they crapped themselves in. So in 2013 when Mizzou had a similar season I just enjoyed it and at the end of the day had they beat Auburn they would have made the national title game but instead of going to Ohio State boards and flaming I just enjoyed a great season. They were two special seasons that might not happen again ever. So enjoy this season and don't worry about Bama or LSU or the Big 12 teams. They all play each other at some point so as long as your keep winning they will knock each other out. And if you do match up against Bama it makes it all the sweeter to knock them off.
Kodos
11-04-2015, 10:32 AM
Besides, Indiana is going to silence the Hawkeyes this weekend anyhow. Right? Who's with me?!
tarcone
11-04-2015, 10:42 AM
Panerd: Thanks. And I know. I am enjoying it. But when I see the absolute disrespect Iowa gets, I get a little fired up. But you are right, win out and it takes care of itself. Unless ND wins out and Clemson and Baylor and LSU. Then a 13-0 Iowa is doomed.
Kodos: You may be right. That Indiana team can score. If Iowa isn't ready, my dreams will only be Rosy.
CU Tiger
11-04-2015, 10:58 AM
Really cool for only the second time in my life to see my Tigers ranked #1. And since I was 3 the last time and not a Clemson fan at the time...it truly is a first time feeling.
Feel like we are a bit of a paper Tiger and if LSU wins this weekend they most likely jump us no matter what we do with FSU.
But either way I am enjoying it today, might not last long.
digamma
11-04-2015, 11:00 AM
Clemson's the best team I've seen this year, and I feel like they haven't played their best game yet. (My honest feeling and not intended to be any sort of jinx.)
sooner333
11-04-2015, 12:35 PM
The explanations given by the committee should be taken with a grain of salt. At the end of the day it's a poll where they talk while voting. There is no consensus reason for any ranking.
digamma
11-04-2015, 12:56 PM
Poll conspiracy theory: to generate ratings, the Committee is fashioning elimination games between teams who "would be in the playoff if the season ended today."
#2 vs. #4 this week.
In two weeks, OSU and MSU will mysteriously be in the top 4 together.
The following week, #3 TCU plays #4 Baylor.
Let's see...
[/tinfoil hat]
cartman
11-04-2015, 12:57 PM
If Bama beats LSU, they are just gonna swap places in the poll.
JonInMiddleGA
11-04-2015, 12:58 PM
Poll conspiracy theory: to generate ratings, the Committee is fashioning elimination games between teams who "would be in the playoff if the season ended today."
#2 vs. #4 this week.
In two weeks, OSU and MSU will mysteriously be in the top 4 together.
The following week, #3 TCU plays #4 Baylor.
Let's see...
[/tinfoil hat]
That was pretty much my take on the first two pairings as soon as I saw the initial release. They know it doesn't matter where teams are right now.
JonInMiddleGA
11-04-2015, 01:00 PM
If Bama beats LSU, they are just gonna swap places in the poll.
Eh, I think it'd take one hell of a close game for that to happen (especially if Bama loses). And in the case of an LSU win it might even take some glaring fifth-down sort of ref botch to keep Bama that high the following week with a second loss.
Thomkal
11-04-2015, 01:01 PM
Really cool for only the second time in my life to see my Tigers ranked #1. And since I was 3 the last time and not a Clemson fan at the time...it truly is a first time feeling.
Feel like we are a bit of a paper Tiger and if LSU wins this weekend they most likely jump us no matter what we do with FSU.
But either way I am enjoying it today, might not last long.
Now you know how I felt when Coastal Carolina got to #1 for the the first time :)
BishopMVP
11-04-2015, 03:15 PM
I've watched that like 10 times now and I don't get why it's even an issue.
I'm with you, but for a different reason. It's Brian Kelly, we've known he's an angry little man for years. Agree/disagree with whether it's acceptable (I think it looks bad but doesn't cross the line) there's nothing new in that video, it just happened during a prime time game.
I also can't believe the committee is still trying to justify their rankings every week. There is no concrete formula or we wouldn't have you guys, and all giving reasons weekly does is ensure they'll be used against you down the line.
JPhillips
11-04-2015, 03:38 PM
Let's do the playoffs the way my daughter's school does fundraising. Everybody raises as much money as possible and the top four teams get the playoff spots. The NCAA could pocket billions each year and the criteria for the playoffs is clear and transparent.
tarcone
11-04-2015, 03:51 PM
Let's do the playoffs the way my daughter's school does fundraising. Everybody raises as much money as possible and the top four teams get the playoff spots. The NCAA could pocket billions each year and the criteria for the playoffs is clear and transparent.
Wait, isn't that how it works now?
CU Tiger
11-04-2015, 04:00 PM
No.
Texas would win every year that way
cartman
11-04-2015, 04:01 PM
No.
Texas would win every year that way
I'm ok with that :D
HomerSimpson98
11-04-2015, 04:02 PM
even after all Clemson fans paying ten bucks a year??
CU Tiger
11-04-2015, 04:28 PM
hey just because we were first doesn't mean we stopped.
BTW saw an interesting stat this AM.
Three of the top four CFP teams announced last night have AD budgets over $125MM. Clemson's is $78MM.
Suicane75
11-04-2015, 04:47 PM
Yeah, at the end of the day it doesn't matter where a team is ranked now. But the committee does suffer from making themselves look incompetent and eroding trust in the process, which I think is a pretty big negative, even if eventually it all rights itself on the field.
Atocep
11-05-2015, 11:12 PM
There's a rumor that Chad Morris is Beamer's replacement. Official announcement after the regular season ends.
BishopMVP
11-05-2015, 11:21 PM
I know I know, Baylor offense, but Corey Coleman is awesome. 5'11, but so strong and the way he attacks the ball in the air - is Steve Smith too aggressive a comparison? (I initially thought Crabtree, but Crabtree was a lot bigger.) Smith probably is too strong a comparison for anyone, but give me the productive guy over a DGB/Breshad Perriman/De'Runnya Wilson/Demarcus Robinson any day.
digamma
11-06-2015, 08:38 AM
hey just because we were first doesn't mean we stopped.
So, we should expect Probation Time Again soon? :cool: :cool: :cool:
TroyF
11-06-2015, 09:46 AM
I know he's a true freshmen, I know true freshman are idiots most of the time, especially QB's. I know there are a LOT of problems at Mizzou. I mean, a metric crapload of problems on the offensive side of the ball.
But the kid struggled to complete screen and swing passes. I'm simply stunned at how badly Pinkel has screwed up his QB depth. Option A is now suspended for the year. I talked openly about how I was stunned Option A was picked over anyone and then I see Option B. Now I know.
Option B may be an automatic first round pick in the NFL draft after two more years of college ball (I don't see it, but it's early, that's a long term prediction I'll wait on). Right now Option B looks a lot like Option A. Where the hell is Option C?
panerd
11-06-2015, 09:58 AM
I know he's a true freshmen, I know true freshman are idiots most of the time, especially QB's. I know there are a LOT of problems at Mizzou. I mean, a metric crapload of problems on the offensive side of the ball.
But the kid struggled to complete screen and swing passes. I'm simply stunned at how badly Pinkel has screwed up his QB depth. Option A is now suspended for the year. I talked openly about how I was stunned Option A was picked over anyone and then I see Option B. Now I know.
Option B may be an automatic first round pick in the NFL draft after two more years of college ball (I don't see it, but it's early, that's a long term prediction I'll wait on). Right now Option B looks a lot like Option A. Where the hell is Option C?
Options C-M transferred and committed elsewhere when we had a potential SEC All conference QB and his back-up future NFL QB on the roster.
MacroGuru
11-06-2015, 10:55 AM
Options C-M transferred and committed elsewhere when we had a potential SEC All conference QB and his back-up future NFL QB on the roster.
Option C transferred, committed to BYU, then went to JUCO ball, then opened his recruitment up again. I think he is kicking himself in the ass, but I am happy we don't have him. I think he is a problem in the making.
tarcone
11-06-2015, 11:59 AM
Baylors true freshman QB didn't have many problems. Wow.
But only beating K State by 7? That hurt the eyes.
:)
MrBug708
11-06-2015, 10:16 PM
There is this...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTKEYdsUEAEEssV.jpg
miked
11-07-2015, 06:27 AM
I'm surprised they spelled everything correctly.
Thomkal
11-07-2015, 08:51 AM
#8 ranked Coastal Carolina visits Gardner-Webb today in probably the easiest game left on their schedule. Hopefully Coastal's defense shows up today and makes life tough for GW.
CU Tiger
11-07-2015, 10:37 AM
So, we should expect Probation Time Again soon? :cool: :cool: :cool:
I've said repeatedly that every school in America could be on probation, because everyone cheats. That said, today Idu put Clemson against any other major program in the country regarding recruiting ethics. CDS makes it clear, if he catches you, you are terminated with cause and he will state in the announcement that you were terminated for recruiting violations.
It's still happens, but it's hid from him.
Dutch
11-07-2015, 10:57 AM
If the Yankees could get that approved...
JPhillips
11-07-2015, 11:38 AM
I've said repeatedly that every school in America could be on probation, because everyone cheats. That said, today Idu put Clemson against any other major program in the country regarding recruiting ethics. CDS makes it clear, if he catches you, you are terminated with cause and he will state in the announcement that you were terminated for recruiting violations.
It's still happens, but it's hid from him.
Is it really hidden because he's opposed to it or is it "hidden" so he has deniability?
digamma
11-07-2015, 01:55 PM
It was just an IPTAY joke.
Enjoy the game!
JonInMiddleGA
11-07-2015, 02:11 PM
I've said repeatedly that every school in America could be on probation, because everyone cheats. That said, today Idu put Clemson against any other major program in the country regarding recruiting ethics. CDS makes it clear, if he catches you, you are terminated with cause and he will state in the announcement that you were terminated for recruiting violations.
It's still happens, but it's hid from him.
So you don't have to worry that he'll ever bolt and leave for a job with the Patriots then.
:D
BishopMVP
11-07-2015, 02:39 PM
Is it really hidden because he's opposed to it or is it "hidden" so he has deniability?I don't think he's a saint, but Dabo seems like a pretty genuine guy to me. Some guys (Bobby Bowden etc) have mastered the folksy aw shucks persona with the media, but I don't get a sense anything from Dabo is an act.
digamma
11-07-2015, 02:47 PM
It doesn't really matter, but why was that an unsportsmanlike penalty at the end of the Dalvin Cook run? The defender first made contact at the 4 yard line. Is he just supposed to let him score?
NobodyHere
11-07-2015, 03:57 PM
Wow, Indiana is actually ahead of Iowa. They'll collapse though
BishopMVP
11-07-2015, 04:46 PM
Great 2nd half of afternoon games... Clemson, TCU, Iowa, even Houston all in danger of losing their 1st game. I wrote off Oklahoma State as a CFP contender after some lackluster early season wins, and I still wouldn't really buy them if they beat TCU in a shootout, but this has been an impressive defensive performance. Also, speaking of teams I'd written off early, how about UNC? If they win out, and can beat a #1 Clemson team in the ACC title game could they have a shot at the playoff? Probably about the same chance as Iowa right now.
MrBug708
11-07-2015, 05:22 PM
Josh Rosen is very good.
GrantDawg
11-07-2015, 05:26 PM
Great 2nd half of afternoon games... Clemson, TCU, Iowa, even Houston all in danger of losing their 1st game. I wrote off Oklahoma State as a CFP contender after some lackluster early season wins, and I still wouldn't really buy them if they beat TCU in a shootout, but this has been an impressive defensive performance. Also, speaking of teams I'd written off early, how about UNC? If they win out, and can beat a #1 Clemson team in the ACC title game could they have a shot at the playoff? Probably about the same chance as Iowa right now.
Has been some crazy games. Floria nearly losing to Vandy at home was something. Can't believe the TCU score. Lots of things shaking up. Clemson really needs to get it together to pull this game out.
hoopsguy
11-07-2015, 06:23 PM
Wondering if anyone else just saw the OT 4th down lateral in Old Miss/Arkansas game?
Thought we had a bunch of SEC fans inhabiting this board ...
GrantDawg
11-07-2015, 06:29 PM
Wondering if anyone else just saw the OT 4th down lateral in Old Miss/Arkansas game?
Thought we had a bunch of SEC fans inhabiting this board ...
That was a crazy ending. Miracle lateral, then the two conversion. Wow.
larrymcg421
11-07-2015, 06:38 PM
I love that play. I've always wondered why people let themselves get tackled in situations like that. I get when you're suddenly tripped up or reaching for the plane, but otherwise there's no reason you should go down with possession of the ball in that situation.
4 straight weeks with an insane, if you saw it in a movie you'd call bs ending
tarcone
11-07-2015, 07:08 PM
Nice win today. Iowa knew they had to score and did.
Tough one, Kodos.
Thomkal
11-07-2015, 07:16 PM
#8 ranked Coastal Carolina visits Gardner-Webb today in probably the easiest game left on their schedule. Hopefully Coastal's defense shows up today and makes life tough for GW.
They showed up. Won 46-0
Edward64
11-07-2015, 07:21 PM
Wondering if anyone else just saw the OT 4th down lateral in Old Miss/Arkansas game?
Thought we had a bunch of SEC fans inhabiting this board ...
Was at daughter's recital but kept up on my iphone. Got to see some (not so good) youtube replays of it so far, will catch it again at some halftime show.
RB Alex Collins becomes only the 3rd SEC RB to rush 3 straight 1,000 yard seasons. He joins Darren McFadden and Herschel. TBH - Alex doesn't seem to have the breakout speed of DMAC and am a little surprised at his success. But DMAC has shown that college success does not translate automatically in the pros. Looking forward to seeing AC get his shot in the NFL.
General Mike
11-07-2015, 07:33 PM
Man, watching Rutgers football is getting harder and harder. I'm pretty sure I didn't feel this way even in 2001-02.
Julio Riddols
11-07-2015, 08:16 PM
Nice win today. Iowa knew they had to score and did.
Tough one, Kodos.
Scoring against Indiana is like walking against a light breeze. The Hoosiers only hope is that teams forget they have to score.
murrayyyyy
11-07-2015, 08:57 PM
RB Alex Collins becomes only the 3rd SEC RB to rush 3 straight 1,000 yard seasons. He joins Darren McFadden and Herschel. TBH - Alex doesn't seem to have the breakout speed of DMAC and am a little surprised at his success. But DMAC has shown that college success does not translate automatically in the pros. Looking forward to seeing AC get his shot in the NFL.
For what it's worth I've been saying for 3 years that Williams was the better running back but he got hurt before the season started. He's probably late 2nd/early third talent.
McFadden has just been injury plagued but I wouldn't call him a bust. He will probably end his career with 6k yards and at least 10 years in the league.
And a reminder of what I said after everyone was up in arms after the Bama game. Bret might have a 2 cent brain/mouth but I like him as a coach because he takes chances to win the game. Sometimes it backfires but I enjoy it more than the years of Nutt playing to not lose a game. I'm was happy either way the 2 pt conversion went tonight because at least he showed confidence in the offense to go for 2 on a night when the defense gave up over 9 yards a play to Ole Miss.
digamma
11-07-2015, 09:24 PM
This must be Texas's fault.
dave731
11-07-2015, 09:35 PM
Photo: Tallahassee Bar Is Selling “Cheers To Clemsoning” T-Shirts For Saturday’s Game | College Spun (http://collegespun.com/national/photo-tallahassee-bar-is-selling-cheers-to-clemsoning-t-shirts-for-saturdays-game)
I hope they wear these with pride!
Go Tigers!!
tarcone
11-07-2015, 09:42 PM
Kodos, as a Hoosier fan. And one that has seen the best of the B1G, how does Iowa stack up?
JonInMiddleGA
11-07-2015, 09:44 PM
Mysterious loud "POP" noises being reported in Memphis, East Lansing and Fort Worth.
MrBug708
11-07-2015, 09:45 PM
Connor Cook should have known better
hoopsguy
11-07-2015, 09:45 PM
That TD call at end of MSU/Nebraska was hideous, and has potential massive implications on the playoff selections. I'm not a MSU fan, but I'm pretty ticked about this right now.
HerRealName
11-07-2015, 09:45 PM
MSU gets absolutely hosed to lose the game. The Nebraska WR runs 20 yards out of bounds and then comes back in to make the winning TD catch.
Solecismic
11-07-2015, 09:58 PM
I'm obviously not a big Spartan supporter, but that was the blown call of the year. Did they just not know the rule?
MSU would own all tie-breakers at 11-1. They still control their own destiny, so to speak.
tarcone
11-07-2015, 09:59 PM
Does Iowa move up to #6?
JonInMiddleGA
11-07-2015, 10:00 PM
How many teams have joined D1 football in recent years? Half dozen or so? More?
I'm asking because maybe the problem I see with HS football on a weekly basis -- rapid expansion of teams contributing to a woeful shortage of competent officials on game night -- might be starting to bite the NCAA a bit too.
JonInMiddleGA
11-07-2015, 10:50 PM
Bama demolition. Question might be whether Henry gained enough ground to make the Heisman a dogfight.
cuervo72
11-07-2015, 11:01 PM
I get why it is the case where the SEC West race is concerned, but it is odd to hear that Bama was helped by the Ole Miss loss. Any other scenario and you'd think it would look bad that the team they lost to just picked up their third loss.
Edward64
11-07-2015, 11:19 PM
Strange story. Hilarious if really true.
Emergencies only: Oxford PD asks fans to stop calling 911 to report Arkansas QB | FOX Sports (http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/ole-miss-rebels-arkansas-razorbacks-brandon-allen-911-oxford-police-110715)
Arkansas senior Brandon Allen had a career performance on the road in Oxford, Miss., on Saturday. Just how good was the Razorback quarterback in his final game against the Rebels? He had the locals dialing 911.
The Oxford Police Department apparently received so many calls, it felt obligated to send out this tweet:
Asking us to kick the Arkansas QB out of the stadium is not a legit reason to dial 911. #ARKvsMISS
The much-maligned Allen played so well, he not only shed the criticism of his clutch ability, he destroyed it. Allen finished 33 of 45 for 442 passing yards with six touchdowns and the game-winning two-point conversion in a 53-52 victory in overtime vs. the No. 18 Rebels.
General Mike
11-07-2015, 11:39 PM
How many teams have joined D1 football in recent years? Half dozen or so? More?
I'm asking because maybe the problem I see with HS football on a weekly basis -- rapid expansion of teams contributing to a woeful shortage of competent officials on game night -- might be starting to bite the NCAA a bit too.
20 in the last 20 years. I think the bigger issue is that as the power conferences expanded, they had to pick up officials from the Big East, the MWC, C-USA etc. so guys are more exposed now. I know there are referees I hated when Rutgers was in the Big East that I see doing Big Ten and ACC games now.
I remember a bowl game probably about 10 years ago, it was the Alamo Bowl, i think between Nebraska and Michigan and there were big complaints about the officiating by a Sun Belt crew.
Kodos
11-07-2015, 11:46 PM
The sun rarely shines when you're an IU football fan. Good game, Tarcone. Wish we didn't have the drops today.
NobodyHere
11-08-2015, 12:25 AM
I remember a bowl game probably about 10 years ago, it was the Alamo Bowl, i think between Nebraska and Michigan and there were big complaints about the officiating by a Sun Belt crew.
I vaguely remember this game. One of the complaints Michigan fans had was that the refs wouldn't utilize the replay system unless Michigan called a time-out first.
Dutch
11-08-2015, 05:22 AM
The Oxford Police Department apparently received so many calls, it felt obligated to send out this tweet:
Asking us to kick the Arkansas QB out of the stadium is not a legit reason to dial 911. #ARKvsMISS
:D
CU Tiger
11-08-2015, 09:00 AM
It was just an IPTAY joke.
Enjoy the game!
Sorry if my reply came across as salty. It wasn't but was pecked out on a phone so short on words.
Was a good win last night, enjoyed the game greatly.
JonInMiddleGA
11-08-2015, 05:13 PM
After this weekend it was even tougher than usual to fill out the bottom portion of my Top 25.
Dutch
11-08-2015, 05:47 PM
Push Mississippi State as far up as you can....because you are either a genius (if they beat Alabama) or they get bumped from the Top 25 for the rest of the season anyway. :)
Balldog
11-08-2015, 05:59 PM
I love the headline of Ohio State Survives Scare against Minnesota by ESPN. At no point in the 2nd half was Minnesota in possession with a chance to tie or take the lead. And entering the 4th quarter they had less than 100 yds. Sure it wasn't a pretty finish but a "scare" is quite the exaggeration...
Bobble
11-09-2015, 07:34 AM
I love the headline of Ohio State Survives Scare against Minnesota by ESPN. At no point in the 2nd half was Minnesota in possession with a chance to tie or take the lead. And entering the 4th quarter they had less than 100 yds. Sure it wasn't a pretty finish but a "scare" is quite the exaggeration...
Their journalistic integrity wouldn't permit them to go with the headline they wanted which was: "Ohio State Survives Scare against Minnesota - Tebow, Tebow, Tebow - watch Stephen A kill and devour Skip Bayless live on camera."
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