View Full Version : 2015 College Football Coach Hiring Thread
Logan
12-01-2015, 10:47 AM
Last year, we consolidated all the discussion into one thread and figured with Conference Championship week about to start, better to migrate the talk here.
To recap, there are currently 13 FBS openings:
P5:
Georgia
Miami
South Carolina
Missouri
Virginia
Maryland
Rutgers
Syracuse
G5:
Memphis
Toledo
Tulane
North Texas
Louisiana Monroe
Major spots that have been filled:
USC: Helton
Virginia Tech: Fuente
UCF: Frost
Iowa State: Campbell
Illinois: Cubit
Let me know if I left anything out.
QuikSand
12-01-2015, 10:52 AM
There's buzz around Maryland that they want to make a splash hire (well, who doesn't, I know). MD has a big $ benefactor in Kevin Plank of Under Armour (who has an obvious Nike envy issue) so there's some intriguing potential there, perhaps more so than the run-of-the-mill big conference doormat program.
Syracuse was wooing Frost, but dallied it appears, or else just got outbid by a warmer climate. I don't see any real sign of life there to speak of, unless they just get lucky and the pan loads up with gold somehow.
Logan
12-01-2015, 10:56 AM
There's buzz around Maryland that they want to make a splash hire (well, who doesn't, I know). MD has a big $ benefactor in Kevin Plank of Under Armour (who has an obvious Nike envy issue) so there's some intriguing potential there, perhaps more so than the run-of-the-mill big conference doormat program.
Had read that too, but then DJ Durkin seemed to emerge as the top candidate at least until they got connected to Richt in the last day or so. Not saying at all that Durkin can't be a good one, but it seemed very different than that initial report that Bill O'Brien was interested.
I think I like Mike Sanford as the most intriguing coordinator candidate at this point.
JonInMiddleGA
12-01-2015, 11:04 AM
There's buzz around Maryland that they want to make a splash hire (well, who doesn't, I know). MD has a big $ benefactor in Kevin Plank of Under Armour (who has an obvious Nike envy issue) so there's some intriguing potential there, perhaps more so than the run-of-the-mill big conference doormat program.
Rumor around Athens last night was Richt would meet with Maryland on Thursday.
JonInMiddleGA
12-01-2015, 03:41 PM
One of the Atlanta TV stations just posted a suggestion that UGA hire ... Mike Bobo.
I'm STILL laughing my ass off at that notion. What a glorious trainwreck that'd be to observe.
For those unfamiliar, the only assistant I can think of who was ever more reviled by a fan base would have been Willie Martinez (who, honestly, I'm surprised someone didn't take a shot at).
Him back in Athens would be a delicious disaster to watch play out, so I can't imagine I'd ever get that lucky.
edit to add: The suggestion, btw, was tied to this report that he interviewed at Mizzou
http://georgia.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Mike-Bobo-interviewed-for-Missouri-head-coaching-vacancy-41609932
MrBug708
12-01-2015, 03:50 PM
Anyone interested in Mazzone?
larrymcg421
12-01-2015, 04:52 PM
Davis, Schiano, Mullen, and Richt are interviewing for the Miami job.
Marmel
12-01-2015, 04:59 PM
It sounds like Syracuse will hire Ash, the co-DC from OSU. This is about the most unexciting hire ever and I think the fan base (what is left) is going to revolt.
Solecismic
12-01-2015, 05:22 PM
Had read that too, but then DJ Durkin seemed to emerge as the top candidate at least until they got connected to Richt in the last day or so. Not saying at all that Durkin can't be a good one, but it seemed very different than that initial report that Bill O'Brien was interested.
I think I like Mike Sanford as the most intriguing coordinator candidate at this point.
It's assumed here that Durkin will get a major offer somewhere during this cycle given what he accomplished before running out of healthy defensive linemen.
larrymcg421
12-01-2015, 06:26 PM
Miami seems to be leaning Richt now. I'd be delighted with that hire.
Bisbo
12-01-2015, 06:57 PM
Fuente is a great signing by Virginia Tech.
Logan
12-01-2015, 07:14 PM
Miami seems to be leaning Richt now. I'd be delighted with that hire.
Don't know how anyone wouldn't be. Seems the question with him now is if he actually wants to take one of these positions he's been looking into.
clemsonfan
12-01-2015, 09:02 PM
Smart to UGA reported by AJC.com
FBPro
12-01-2015, 09:45 PM
Smart to UGA reported by AJC.com
Heard that as well.....
Atocep
12-01-2015, 09:48 PM
Supposedly Muschamp is joining the staff as DC. Tyson Helton as OC.
Atocep
12-01-2015, 10:00 PM
And now the SC board saying Muschamp is going to be the hire there.
Eaglesfan27
12-01-2015, 10:03 PM
Supposedly Muschamp is joining the staff as DC. Tyson Helton as OC.
I will be surprised if Tyson doesn't end up at USC.
GrantDawg
12-02-2015, 05:16 AM
Supposedly Muschamp is joining the staff as DC. Tyson Helton as OC.
Helton has long been the rumor, but I'll say again it would make no sense to hire Muschamp. Smart is going to run the defense, and Muschamp is going to want autonomy. They are friends, but I don't think that would be a fit.
BillJasper
12-02-2015, 06:10 AM
...but I'll say again it would make no sense to hire Muschamp. Smart is going to run the defense, and Muschamp is going to want autonomy. They are friends, but I don't think that would be a fit.
It might work for a season or two while Smart is getting his feet wet.
Anyone else get the feeling that with Smart moving on from Alabama, that Saban has decided to stay there a while longer?
CU Tiger
12-02-2015, 06:36 AM
I'm hearing Billy Napier to UGA as OC.
Would be a GREAT hire if so. Billy'sdad is a25+ year Georgia hs head football coach, and Billy is a great recruiter. Only concern is he favors a priest/power I offense to what UGA should run in the spread.
GrantDawg
12-02-2015, 06:41 AM
I'm hearing Billy Napier to UGA as OC.
Would be a GREAT hire if so. Billy'sdad is a25+ year Georgia hs head football coach, and Billy is a great recruiter. Only concern is he favors a priest/power I offense to what UGA should run in the spread.
Napier is the name I heard very early. He actually looks like a great fit.
Easy Mac
12-02-2015, 07:54 AM
I wish Furman would hire Napier as head coach. If they're going to insist on having alums as coach, at least get someone who has shown he can recruit kids who can actually play.
digamma
12-02-2015, 10:25 AM
If message board rumors are to be believed, there is going to be an all out war between the states (of Georgia and Alabama) for the services of current Alabama strength and conditioning coach Scotty Cochran. (Look him up.)
JonInMiddleGA
12-02-2015, 11:35 AM
If message board rumors are to be believed, there is going to be an all out war between the states (of Georgia and Alabama) for the services of current Alabama strength and conditioning coach Scotty Cochran. (Look him up.)
IIRC his name was mentioned in the same first breath with Napier as being the guys Strong wanted to bring with him.
Logan
12-02-2015, 12:50 PM
Multiple people reporting DJ Durkin to Maryland.
Marmel
12-02-2015, 03:34 PM
It sounds like Syracuse will hire Ash, the co-DC from OSU. This is about the most unexciting hire ever and I think the fan base (what is left) is going to revolt.
Now I'm hearing this was a bit of a smokescreen and Dino Babers is the guy, but he has a game Friday night. Possibly Ash to Rutgers.
molson
12-02-2015, 03:36 PM
It sounds like Syracuse will hire Ash, the co-DC from OSU. This is about the most unexciting hire ever and I think the fan base (what is left) is going to revolt.
Syracuse was wooing Frost, but dallied it appears, or else just got outbid by a warmer climate. I don't see any real sign of life there to speak of, unless they just get lucky and the pan loads up with gold somehow.
Ash has apparently now pulled himself out of the running, and the current leading candidate is reported to be Dino Babers from Bowling Green. That appears to be the guy the fanbase was hoping for. Which I guess tells you state of Syracuse football these days.
Syracuse Football: Chris Ash Out of Running, Dino Babers New Favorite for Orange Coach - Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician (http://www.nunesmagician.com/2015/12/2/9836612/syracuse-football-chris-ash-out-of-running-dino-babers-new-favorite-orange-coach-osu-bgsu)
It'd be the first time Syracuse hired a head football coach with previous head coaching experience at Division 1 or higher since Dick McPherson in 1980. There's only been 4 head coaches since then, but that's kind of a weird stat.
CU Tiger
12-02-2015, 04:41 PM
If message board rumors are to be believed, there is going to be an all out war between the states (of Georgia and Alabama) for the services of current Alabama strength and conditioning coach Scotty Cochran. (Look him up.)
You don't have to look Scott Cochran up...
Just like Tommy Moffitt another of the Gayle Hatch disciples. Brought Olympic lifting into mainstream football strength training.
I know Urban tried to get him to Ohio state. ...I've heard he will never leave Satan we will see.
He's a 2.5 million a year guy though....
GrantDawg
12-02-2015, 04:43 PM
IIRC his name was mentioned in the same first breath with Napier as being the guys Strong wanted to bring with him.
Yeah, Cochran has always been rumored to go with Kirby, even before this when he was mentioned for other jobs. They are close, and have a long agreement. Interestingly, the current strength and condition coach is Cochran's former assistant. It'd be funny if UGA traded Smart and Cochran for two of their former assistants.
GrantDawg
12-02-2015, 04:57 PM
Schlabach is saying Richt is "100%" going to Miami. Will be announced tomorrow or Friday.
Logan
12-02-2015, 05:19 PM
If Ash ends up at Rutgers, I won't really be able to opine on it until I figure out what his offensive philosophy would be and who he would look to bring in to run the offense. I like a young guy under Meyer who is an Xs and Os guy with a ring on his finger, but I would have preferred someone with experience running a program.
General Mike
12-02-2015, 06:39 PM
If Ash ends up at Rutgers, I won't really be able to opine on it until I figure out what his offensive philosophy would be and who he would look to bring in to run the offense. I like a young guy under Meyer who is an Xs and Os guy with a ring on his finger, but I would have preferred someone with experience running a program.
Would I have preferred someone with experience? Sure, but Rutgers isn't going to pay for the guys with good experience, so you are left with a retread. Al Golden's name got thrown out a lot, and sure he turned Temple around, but he did it in the MAC, and he couldn't even win his division there. Cristobal is another guy who I have issue with.
I would have preferred an OC hire, but it doesn't seem there were many good fits in that direction who have east coast ties.
CU Tiger
12-02-2015, 06:53 PM
Looks like Muschamp is pretty far down the path with SC.
Thinking something could be announced by weekend.
HomerSimpson98
12-02-2015, 09:00 PM
Love the Richt to Miami U hire.
LOL at anyone thinking Dino Babers is the answer to anything.
JonInMiddleGA
12-02-2015, 09:20 PM
Looks like Muschamp is pretty far down the path with SC.
Thinking something could be announced by weekend.
First Smart, now Muschamp.
If that deal falls through do they go after Willie Martinez for the HC job since they seem to be on a mission to get a DC with connections to UGA ;)
CU Tiger
12-02-2015, 09:28 PM
The best part, (this has been reported by Clemson media and I can 100% confirm this), Muschamp reached out to Clemson Co-OC and WR coach Jeff Scott to guage his interest in joining staff as OC.
For those not following following along at home not only is Jeff a Clemson grad, and was given his first shot by Dabo, not only is he extremely loyal, he is the son of Brad Scott who was fired by SC and then not paid his due money until Brad won a court case and forced SC to pay him.
"Yeah, uhhh sorry, Will. I am going to have to say no to that one."
miami_fan
12-03-2015, 04:52 AM
Schlabach is saying Richt is "100%" going to Miami. Will be announced tomorrow or Friday.
I will reserve judgement until I see what kind of staff he puts together.
Logan
12-03-2015, 06:59 AM
Love the Richt to Miami U hire.
LOL at anyone thinking Dino Babers is the answer to anything.
Care to expand on that for us dummies? I've heard he doesn't recruit a ton and is a bad interview but would love to hear more.
Marmel
12-03-2015, 07:47 AM
LOL at anyone thinking Dino Babers is the answer to anything.
Care to elaborate? He seems like a perfect fit for Syracuse. He has 3 years at another P5 private university and his (Baylor's) offense in a dome seems like a perfect match. Everyone else in the Northeast has a DC as their HC, so he would be something different up here, an attractive spot for offensive recruits.
JonInMiddleGA
12-03-2015, 07:54 AM
Just gossipy really but fwiw ... says Pruitt is thinking Michigan not Miami if he's ousted in Athens.
https://www.seccountry.com/georgia/report-uga-dc-jeremy-pruitt-would-not-follow-mark-richt-to-miami
HomerSimpson98
12-03-2015, 12:12 PM
Dino was a massive failure at A&M when given the keys to an offense that was primed to make some waves in the early 2000s. He was completely lost and in over his head and was relieved of his OC duties about halfway through the season and fired shortly after. He isnt exactly a fan favorite, although he is held in higher regard than Dennis Franchione.
Having typed that, I do realize that the statute of limitations probably expired on pinning those failures to any future ones. Maybe he is a changed dude, ready to lead a Power 5 team. He did do well at BG
Marmel
12-03-2015, 12:16 PM
Dino was a massive failure at A&M when given the keys to an offense that was primed to make some waves in the early 2000s. He was completely lost and in over his head and was relieved of his OC duties about halfway through the season and fired shortly after. He isnt exactly a fan favorite, although he is held in higher regard than Dennis Franchione.
Having typed that, I do realize that the statute of limitations probably expired on pinning those failures to any future ones. Maybe he is a changed dude, ready to lead a Power 5 team. He did do well at BG
I think that might be why his not getting sniff of a P5 job until his mid-50s, but since that stint, he has completely adopted Briles' Baylor offense and has a good track record with it at E Ill and BG.
Thanks for the response though, I see where you are coming from.
MrBug708
12-03-2015, 12:49 PM
When Dino was at ucla he didn't have a great rep as a coach
Logan
12-03-2015, 08:19 PM
Looks like Odom got the bump at Mizzou.
panerd
12-03-2015, 08:55 PM
Looks like Odom got the bump at Mizzou.
It was a given... Larry (Smith) to Gary (Pinkel) to Barry (Odom). Young guy and the players love him. (Though he looks like he is sixty with his Costanza haircut) See if this is great for recruits or backfires. Our basketball hire was a major dud bringing back a true son.
Mizzou B-ball fan
12-03-2015, 09:40 PM
It was a given... Larry (Smith) to Gary (Pinkel) to Barry (Odom). Young guy and the players love him. (Though he looks like he is sixty with his Costanza haircut) See if this is great for recruits or backfires. Our basketball hire was a major dud bringing back a true son.
The difference being that the basketball program was a complete rebuild.
Coach Pinkel has already told Odom that he will help out wherever he needs it. That's a huge difference from the basketball program where the previous coach left to avoid being fired.
NobodyHere
12-03-2015, 10:32 PM
Toledo hires from within with OC Jason Candle
dawgfan
12-04-2015, 04:38 PM
Wow - Bronco Mendenhall to Virginia. Did not see that coming...
JonInMiddleGA
12-04-2015, 04:43 PM
Wow - Bronco Mendenhall to Virginia. Did not see that coming...
Yeah, just posted pretty much the same surprise myself.
MacroGuru
12-04-2015, 04:47 PM
I am sick...
If I could pick a coach to replace him that fits the BYU mold...Kalani Sitake. But I don't think that happens.
dawgfan
12-04-2015, 05:28 PM
I'm seeing reports Bronco was "only" making $900K at BYU. If that's true, it's not hard to see why he'd bolt for a Power-5 job. Looks like he'll more than triple his salary.
JonInMiddleGA
12-04-2015, 05:37 PM
I'm seeing reports Bronco was "only" making $900K at BYU. If that's true, it's not hard to see why he'd bolt for a Power-5 job. Looks like he'll more than triple his salary.
While the $900k references I saw were several years old, I think it's safe to say the $3.something million being reported for the new job is a substantial upgrade.
BYU 14
12-04-2015, 05:48 PM
Bronco will be hard to replace, I have so much respect for him, devastated right now.
digamma
12-04-2015, 07:33 PM
I think it is a really weird hire for the Hoos. Seemed to be a really good fit at BYU, not sure the same will be true in Charlottesville.
Logan
12-05-2015, 09:59 AM
I think it's a home run for them. The guy sure as hell can coach...worry about the fit stuff later.
murrayyyyy
12-05-2015, 10:23 AM
I'm seeing reports Bronco was "only" making $900K at BYU. If that's true, it's not hard to see why he'd bolt for a Power-5 job. Looks like he'll more than triple his salary.
Last I saw he was making 2 mill a year @ BYU.
Young Drachma
12-05-2015, 10:46 AM
Bronco moving to Uva was a strange move, but I guess the BYU thing, no conference, how hard it must be to recruit there consistently and living in Provo would get on you nerves after a while. Especially if you're being pursued, play in a good league, surround yourself with solid assistants and get a pay raise.
Should be strange and I can't see it working, but in thinking about it, the move makes some sense.
MacroGuru
12-05-2015, 10:58 AM
While the $900k references I saw were several years old, I think it's safe to say the $3.something million being reported for the new job is a substantial upgrade.
Bronco was making about 1.25 then he has his Nike deal. Any additional I don't know about.
BYU has been notoriously cheap with their coaches and it is going to be interesting because they are going to have to pony up some $
MrBug708
12-05-2015, 11:30 AM
Norm CHow probably would take it cheaply
Atocep
12-05-2015, 11:50 AM
Oh Baylor, I expect nothing less of you.
Stay classy.
General Mike
12-05-2015, 01:50 PM
Chris Ash to Rutgers, pending BOG approval.
I like the hire, but I'm reserving judgment to see who he brings in as coordinators.
GrantDawg
12-05-2015, 09:27 PM
Just read a rumor that Rich Rod is getting the South Carolina job, and they are just waiting on him to get back to Arizona to tell his team. That would be surprising and very interesting. It will also be interesting to see if that means Muschamp comes to Georgia, or will he get the Alabama DC job.
Atocep
12-05-2015, 09:59 PM
Things may be in the works that gives Rich some pause before accepting the SC job.
GrantDawg
12-05-2015, 10:03 PM
Things may be in the works that gives Rich some pause before accepting the SC job.
AS you posted this, the AZ Athletic director tweets RR turned down the job and is coming back.
GrantDawg
12-05-2015, 10:05 PM
Which makes you wonder, what the hell is scaring everybody off from South Carolina? It is not that bad of a job. They pay very well, and the fan base is actually pretty patient.
Atocep
12-05-2015, 10:12 PM
Which makes you wonder, what the hell is scaring everybody off from South Carolina? It is not that bad of a job. They pay very well, and the fan base is actually pretty patient.
I don't know about the others, but there's probably a better than 50% chance the WVU job is opening and Rich would probably walk on glass to go back. He would probably see this as his last chance to get back home as well.
If it opens I don't think he's at the top of the list, but he'd be high enough on it to have a good shot. Rich is close enough to Ken Kendrick to know what WVU's loss to KSU meant and it's why I expect him to think long and hard before accepting the SC job.
Easy Mac
12-05-2015, 10:15 PM
Weird, every "connected" booster in SC I know said all week it was Muschamp, and that it was just Rich Rods agent pushing his name.
Atocep
12-05-2015, 10:18 PM
Weird, every "connected" booster in SC I know said all week it was Muschamp, and that it was just Rich Rods agent pushing his name.
The SC boards have been saying all along it's going to be Muschamp. I don't know how close Rich was to getting the job. The Rich talk just started picking up steam over the past day.
GrantDawg
12-05-2015, 10:21 PM
Rich Rod, Tom Herman, Willie Taggart. They all go, listen, go back home for a bigger paycheck. What's crazy about that is S Carolina could out pay whatever bumps they are getting. It is not about the money. It makes you think it must be something systemically that is running them off.
JonInMiddleGA
12-05-2015, 10:31 PM
Which makes you wonder, what the hell is scaring everybody off from South Carolina? It is not that bad of a job.
Well, yes and no.
Sparky Woods begat Brad Scott who begat Lou Holtz (wins but probation). Between Joe Morrison & Spurrier was a pretty down couple of decades.
You've either gotta be brilliant or have a lot go your way in terms of other programs being down to finish better than fourth in the division.
GrantDawg
12-05-2015, 10:36 PM
Well, yes and no.
Sparky Woods begat Brad Scott who begat Lou Holtz (wins but probation). Between Joe Morrison & Spurrier was a pretty down couple of decades.
You've either gotta be brilliant or have a lot go your way in terms of other programs being down to finish better than fourth in the division.
Sure it is a tough place to win, but from what I ave seen their fan base really doesn't expect 10-11 wins every year. You can grind out 8-9 wins, have a good season every few years, and be a hero. I recognize that the cupboard is pretty bear right now, and the East looks like is getting tougher in the next few years. Still, there is a way to succeed there if you want it.
Thomkal
12-06-2015, 06:01 AM
Which makes you wonder, what the hell is scaring everybody off from South Carolina? It is not that bad of a job. They pay very well, and the fan base is actually pretty patient.
It's in Columbia :)
GrantDawg
12-06-2015, 08:52 AM
Looks like Will Muschamp will be announced today at South Carolina. What I find funny is that South Carolina got their safety school. :)
CU Tiger
12-06-2015, 10:53 AM
Sure it is a tough place to win, but from what I ave seen their fan base really doesn't expect 10-11 wins every year. You can grind out 8-9 wins, have a good season every few years, and be a hero. I recognize that the cupboard is pretty bear right now, and the East looks like is getting tougher in the next few years. Still, there is a way to succeed there if you want it.
These are the problems with the SC job.
1- No coach has ever got a head coaching gig again after leaving SC. (Coaching graveyard)
2- The school has virtually no tradition. They didnt win a bowl game, ever, until the late 90s.
3- They are in the SEC, you know the toughest league in football. Harder to win, in theory.
4- In their own division Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Missouri are all better jobs.
5- They recruit against UGA, UF, UT, Clemson, FSU and to some extent UNC and NCSU...
6- Spurrier who is a certified legend and HOF coach coached them to their 3 best seasons in school history, with a #1 overall draft pick and at one point 17 of 22 starters future NFL players. None of those won a conference championship.
7- Columbia. It really is a dump. But it also hurts them because the school is in the middle of an inner city urban area, and it isnt a very good urban area. It is hard to sell your school to recruits this way, the kid that wants an urban environment or a busy city, is going to like Knoxville, even Nashville, Chapel Hill, Miami, etc more. And they do not have that tranquil campus green space that Athens, Tuscalossa, Auburn and yes Clemson offer.
8- Actually the fan base has turned. Many wanted Spurrier fired last year after 8 wins, 1 year removed from 3 straight 11 win seasons.
9- SC doesnt have a national brand in recruiting. The aforementioned 11 win season run came at a time when SC had a historically abnormal number of elite prospects. SC recruiting will always go as SC high school football goes and SC hs football isn't on the same planet as UGA, FL, LA, et al.
10- Their mascot is a chicken. The universal symbol of cowardice. Who wants to be a chicken :D
Atocep
12-06-2015, 04:02 PM
Looks like Holgorsen will be back at WVU. The problem is with 2 years left on his contract WVU is likely going to have to give him an easy to get out of extension for recruiting purposes.
Next season will determine how long Holgorsen will actually stay at WVU.
The sad thing is this is 2 times in 3 years his team has been a QB away from being really good. For a guy that coached some incredibly productive QBs at Texas Tech and Oklahoma State he's struggled to find QBs at WVU.
Eaglesfan27
12-06-2015, 06:29 PM
Clay Helton has fired most of his coaching staff. Seems like only Sirmon is staying from the defensive side and Tee and Tui from the offensive side.
BillJasper
12-06-2015, 06:32 PM
1- No coach has ever got a head coaching gig again after leaving SC. (Coaching graveyard)
Which won't be an issue for Muschamp. He fails there, he won't ever coach another major program.
CU Tiger
12-06-2015, 06:40 PM
Which won't be an issue for Muschamp. He fails there, he won't ever coach another major program.
And if he couldn't win at Florida against essentially the same schedule, with all the built in advantages Florida has, with the state he inherited that program, what are the odds he can get it done in South Carolina?
bhlloy
12-06-2015, 06:57 PM
Clay Helton has fired most of his coaching staff. Seems like only Sirmon is staying from the defensive side and Tee and Tui from the offensive side.
Very happy with that. Would like to see Heyward stay if his job was just recruiting but damn, his DBs have some of the worst technique I've ever seen
Eaglesfan27
12-06-2015, 07:12 PM
Very happy with that. Would like to see Heyward stay if his job was just recruiting but damn, his DBs have some of the worst technique I've ever seen
Agreed. Clay kept the 3 coaches I would have kept too. Although, there are some reports he is also keeping Nansen who I was hoping would be gone...
Swaggs
12-06-2015, 08:34 PM
Looks like Holgorsen will be back at WVU. The problem is with 2 years left on his contract WVU is likely going to have to give him an easy to get out of extension for recruiting purposes.
Next season will determine how long Holgorsen will actually stay at WVU.
The sad thing is this is 2 times in 3 years his team has been a QB away from being really good. For a guy that coached some incredibly productive QBs at Texas Tech and Oklahoma State he's struggled to find QBs at WVU.
This was the first season that I felt like he had done a pretty good job -- prior to last night. Now, I'm honestly not sure. I think the defense played really well all and the o-line seems to be improving. Hopefully, we dump DeForest and find another elite recruiter. I wish we could have found a way to keep Tom Bradley around for recruiting and as insurance for a Holgorsen dismissal.
My main fear is that, if/when he puts it all together, he'll be gone with the failure to extend him. And, more likely, we have another 7-5 season next season and are in a holding pattern.
Atocep
12-06-2015, 08:53 PM
This was the first season that I felt like he had done a pretty good job -- prior to last night. Now, I'm honestly not sure. I think the defense played really well all and the o-line seems to be improving. Hopefully, we dump DeForest and find another elite recruiter. I wish we could have found a way to keep Tom Bradley around for recruiting and as insurance for a Holgorsen dismissal.
My main fear is that, if/when he puts it all together, he'll be gone with the failure to extend him. And, more likely, we have another 7-5 season next season and are in a holding pattern.
I think Holgosen has done a good job of building the program up for Big 12. Because of some of Stew's recruiting failures I think we were at around 72 scholarship players when he took over and zero depth on either side of the ball. The talent and depth are there on both sides of the ball now, he just needs to find a QB because at some point he actually needs to win some games.
I haven't heard good things about Tom Bradley's time at WVU so I wasn't bothered seeing him leave.
Another 7-5 season probably gets him fired IMO. Everyone around the program seems to think Chugs is going to be the QB next year and has a lot of potential. With a more favorable schedule and the entire offense returning progress needs to happen.
I do think Holgorsen would be a good hire if WVU eventually lets him go. He wasn't ready to be a head coach when WVU brought him on. He was stubborn and pissed off a lot of the old guard (both around the program and the media). Since then he's adapted his staff, recruiting, and offensive philosophy to fit what WVU needs. He's learned quite a bit and it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him go on to have a lot of success somewhere else.
dawgfan
12-07-2015, 12:06 AM
Very happy with that. Would like to see Heyward stay if his job was just recruiting but damn, his DBs have some of the worst technique I've ever seen
That surprises me - Washington's secondary made an immediate and significant improvement when he arrived in 2012. I was a big Heyward fan and was very sorry to see him go.
Only reason for keeping Nansen so far as I can tell is for his recruiting - he was a terrible position coach and the special teams were awful under his watch. He was a heck of a wingman for Sark on his drinking adventures though...
Butter
12-07-2015, 06:46 AM
And if he couldn't win at Florida against essentially the same schedule, with all the built in advantages Florida has, with the state he inherited that program, what are the odds he can get it done in South Carolina?
To be fair, Florida this year had the potential to be top 15 if their QB doesn't get a drug suspension. Now do they even win their side of the conference if Muschamp was still there? Who knows.
Muschamp can recruit. He can also go coo-coo bananas crazy, which is entertaining in and of itself.
JPhillips
12-07-2015, 08:06 AM
I know you almost always take the head coaching job you're offered, but is there any chance that Ash won't be fired eventually at Rutgers? It seems impossible for Rutgers to compete in the B1G.
Logan
12-07-2015, 08:13 AM
I know you almost always take the head coaching job you're offered, but is there any chance that Ash won't be fired eventually at Rutgers? It seems impossible for Rutgers to compete in the B1G.
If he can recruit, he can be successful. There's a ton of talent in New Jersey that the rest of the B1G poached at will with Flood in charge, and where they don't get the guy, the SEC does. Ash doesn't need to get every top kid in Jersey but even getting two of the top 5, 5 of the top 10, and doing well with the mid tier kids would be a massive improvement over Flood and would yield a competitive roster.
digamma
12-07-2015, 08:15 AM
I've read a couple of things that appear not to be a joke that Kirby Smart is bringing on Jim Donnan in...wait for it...a fund raising capacity in Athens.
Apparently, the way it will work is that Donnan gets four donors. Then those four donors get four donors. Then those donors get four donors.
Seriously, though, that has to be a joke, right?
Young Drachma
12-07-2015, 08:20 AM
I know you almost always take the head coaching job you're offered, but is there any chance that Ash won't be fired eventually at Rutgers? It seems impossible for Rutgers to compete in the B1G.
It was a smart move. They got a guy from a successful program and hope he can bring it to them and give them a fresh start in the B1G. Bringing back Schiano would have been a game-day management disaster, plus expensive for middling seasons, even though he's pro-Jersey.
I think the hope is that Ash does good enough to elevate himself to a big-time program in a few years, but at least Rutgers will be in decent position to stay decent in the B1G.
It's probably better than just getting another person "with ties to Jersey." We'll see how it goes. I don't think it's an impossible place to coach, or at least, let's put it this way...it's a hell of a lot of less impossible a job than it was in the 90s.
If Temple can manage to attract solid coaches without a campus stadium playing in an east coast city that barely cares about football, Rutgers can at least get back to the Schiano glory years with a competent coach who doesn't have players getting arrested week to week.
JPhillips
12-07-2015, 08:20 AM
If he can recruit, he can be successful. There's a ton of talent in New Jersey that the rest of the B1G poached at will with Flood in charge, and where they don't get the guy, the SEC does. Ash doesn't need to get every top kid in Jersey but even getting two of the top 5, 5 of the top 10, and doing well with the mid tier kids would be a massive improvement over Flood and would yield a competitive roster.
But even then isn't their ceiling most years fifth in the division? They aren't going to consistently beat OSU, UM, MSU or PSU. It seems like Ash is destined to a few 6 or 7 win seasons and then he'll be fired.
edit: To be clear, I like the hire for Rutgers, I just don't see Ash being able to succeed.
molson
12-07-2015, 09:19 AM
It's crazy looking at it, only 22% of FBS schools hired their current head coaches in 2009 or earlier. So 5 years is about the max in most places. And even that's stretching it these days, 65% of FBS schools hired their current coach since 2013 (or are currently vacant at head coach). Only 3 coaches have been around more than 10 years, and the longest tenure is only since 1999 (Stoops and Ferentz)
If you look back at some of the all-time great college coaches and how they did in their first 3-4 seasons, almost none of them would have lasted beyond that in the modern climate.
CU Tiger
12-07-2015, 09:23 AM
To be fair, Florida this year had the potential to be top 15 if their QB doesn't get a drug suspension. Now do they even win their side of the conference if Muschamp was still there? Who knows.
Muschamp can recruit. He can also go coo-coo bananas crazy, which is entertaining in and of itself.
Which to me makes it even worse.
You are right though, Muschamp CAN recruit, he has not however shown the ability to manage a roster.
But sounds like legendary SC High School football coach Bobby Bentley will be getting his first D1 college on field coaching job, potentially as OC.
Bentley guided Byrnes High School in SC to numerous state 4A Big 16 (known as 5A everywhere else in the world) titles before leaving to take over Presbyterian College as HC. He flailed there, allegedly without promised financial support, and Byrnes struggled in his absence so he returned as AD and put his coach in place and called plays from the sideline- yes as AD.
He has been a QC guy at Auburn the last few years and his son is a Junior who is a good young QB prospect.
MrBug708
12-07-2015, 09:29 AM
The Wole Betiku recruiting story is going to be funny with USC and these coaching hires
Logan
12-07-2015, 09:52 AM
But even then isn't their ceiling most years fifth in the division? They aren't going to consistently beat OSU, UM, MSU or PSU. It seems like Ash is destined to a few 6 or 7 win seasons and then he'll be fired.
edit: To be clear, I like the hire for Rutgers, I just don't see Ash being able to succeed.
Well I definitely wouldn't include PSU in that group, Franklin appears to have no clue how to coach offense and could be coaching for his job next year. Michigan could fall if Harbaugh leaves, who the hell knows how long Meyer is around, etc. But still, no one "consistently beats" all those teams with the exception of OSU, so it's more about winning a couple of those games a season, winning your cross-division games, and playing well OOC. That gets you to 8 or 9 wins and if Ash can do that by year 4 he'll be in good shape.
If Ash was wrapping up year 4 of his tenure off those results today, he'd probably have a top 15 2016 class in his pocket based on the talent in Jersey.
duckman
12-07-2015, 10:35 AM
My brother-in-law, Seth Littrell, was hired to be the head coach for North Texas on Saturday. He's married to my wife's sister. He's a really good dude. His oldest boy, Trip, was born with a heart defect and required surgery. He'll be introduced today at 12:30 CT. My wife's family is pretty excited about it being his first HC job and that he'll be closer to home.
BillJasper
12-07-2015, 11:49 AM
My brother-in-law, Seth Littrell, was hired to be the head coach for North Texas on Saturday. He's married to my wife's sister. He's a really good dude. His oldest boy, Trip, was born with a heart defect and required surgery. He'll be introduced today at 12:30 CT. My wife's family is pretty excited about it being his first HC job and that he'll be closer to home.
Congrats. I guess that makes you the head coach-in-law! :thumbsup:
MacroGuru
12-07-2015, 12:12 PM
FYI - My inside sources just said Ken turned down the job at BYU (Couldn't make the $ work), to me that signals that Kalani Sitake will be the next HC at BYU. I will be shocked if it wasn't.
molson
12-07-2015, 01:25 PM
No surprise here
Steve Sarkisian sues USC over his firing as football coach - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-usc-steve-sarkisian-sues-20151207-story.html)
ISiddiqui
12-07-2015, 01:37 PM
But even then isn't their ceiling most years fifth in the division? They aren't going to consistently beat OSU, UM, MSU or PSU. It seems like Ash is destined to a few 6 or 7 win seasons and then he'll be fired.
edit: To be clear, I like the hire for Rutgers, I just don't see Ash being able to succeed.
But consistent 7 win seasons may indeed be considered a success.
miked
12-07-2015, 01:47 PM
But even then isn't their ceiling most years fifth in the division? They aren't going to consistently beat OSU, UM, MSU or PSU. It seems like Ash is destined to a few 6 or 7 win seasons and then he'll be fired.
edit: To be clear, I like the hire for Rutgers, I just don't see Ash being able to succeed.
We should have beaten PSU last year (thanks to Nova's 5 picks) and beat UM last year. I don't think we will compete with OSU, but even this shitty team this year lost to MSU by a touchdown, and almost had a chance to try a tying hail mary had our QB not spiked the ball on 4th down. If we can get to a place where we are winning 7-8 games, that'll do. Nobody at RU expects a Rose Bowl.
Atocep
12-07-2015, 01:50 PM
So Holgorsen may not be safe yet. There's a big push to get him out and swing for the fences to see if Jimbo wants to coach at WVU (unlikely) or give the job to Rich. Buyout money is in place for both Holgorsen and whoever is brought in as the replacement.
Holgorsen may be coaching for his job in the Cactus bowl which is stupid. Either let him go now and move on or commit to him.
This is very likely why Rich turned down the SC job (it appears he was offered) as one of the people that would be paying the buyout is one of Rich's best friends (Ken Kendrick).
Logan
12-07-2015, 03:24 PM
I know new coaches never lose the introductory press conference but I loved damn near everything I heard from Ash today.
NobodyHere
12-07-2015, 04:27 PM
No surprise here
Steve Sarkisian sues USC over his firing as football coach - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-usc-steve-sarkisian-sues-20151207-story.html)
Ugh, and who has to pay him if he wins?
molson
12-07-2015, 04:29 PM
Also, Sark says he's sober and ready to coach! Who's in?
digamma
12-07-2015, 04:31 PM
Ugh, and who has to pay him if he wins?
USC.
NobodyHere
12-07-2015, 04:55 PM
Then I guess they should be prepared for the rise in tuition next year if he wins.
dawgfan
12-07-2015, 06:37 PM
Then I guess they should be prepared for the rise in tuition next year if he wins.
He won't win, but there's probably enough incentive there for both parties to settle.
dawgfan
12-07-2015, 06:43 PM
FYI - My inside sources just said Ken turned down the job at BYU (Couldn't make the $ work), to me that signals that Kalani Sitake will be the next HC at BYU. I will be shocked if it wasn't.
So is Mike Leach not LDS, or was he just not a consideration?
MrBug708
12-07-2015, 07:08 PM
He won't win, but there's probably enough incentive there for both parties to settle.
When you know where the bodies are buried...
digamma
12-08-2015, 05:42 AM
Then I guess they should be prepared for the rise in tuition next year if he wins.
I wasn't sure if your question was serious. The real answer is USC almost certainly has Employer Practices Liability Insurance.
MacroGuru
12-08-2015, 07:52 AM
So is Mike Leach not LDS, or was he just not a consideration?
Mike is LDS but he has to be active LDS which he isn't.
The Head Coach position at BYU has a very slim candidate pool. You have to be LDS, you have to be active and from my understanding (Not saying this is truth) you have to be temple worthy. (Active, Full Tithe Payer, fulfilling your callings, following the tenets of the faith, etc).
That last line alone eliminates Leach pretty quickly. I would love to see him here, the fan base wouldn't know how to handle him, but they would love the high scoring offenses he brings back.
dawgfan
12-08-2015, 11:53 AM
Mike is LDS but he has to be active LDS which he isn't.
The Head Coach position at BYU has a very slim candidate pool. You have to be LDS, you have to be active and from my understanding (Not saying this is truth) you have to be temple worthy. (Active, Full Tithe Payer, fulfilling your callings, following the tenets of the faith, etc).
That last line alone eliminates Leach pretty quickly. I would love to see him here, the fan base wouldn't know how to handle him, but they would love the high scoring offenses he brings back.
Gotcha - thanks for the clarification.
So it's looking like Sitake then?
britrock88
12-08-2015, 02:30 PM
My brother-in-law, Seth Littrell, was hired to be the head coach for North Texas on Saturday. He's married to my wife's sister. He's a really good dude. His oldest boy, Trip, was born with a heart defect and required surgery. He'll be introduced today at 12:30 CT. My wife's family is pretty excited about it being his first HC job and that he'll be closer to home.
My thanks to him for his work with the UNC offense.
MacroGuru
12-08-2015, 02:48 PM
Gotcha - thanks for the clarification.
So it's looking like Sitake then?
ACTUALLY....things just changed....
I guess it's all but done with Ken N now, been kept under wraps, has been asked to not be released until after Sat due to the Army / Navy game and the focus.
If that is the case, you may see Sitake leave OSU and come to BYU as DC.
mind you, this isn't me piecing info together. This is coming from sources from within the program. I know the school had to pony up more $ to make it work.
MrBug708
12-08-2015, 05:55 PM
Magnum is going to transfer then, right?
BYU 14
12-08-2015, 08:00 PM
ACTUALLY....things just changed....
I guess it's all but done with Ken N now, been kept under wraps, has been asked to not be released until after Sat due to the Army / Navy game and the focus.
If that is the case, you may see Sitake leave OSU and come to BYU as DC.
mind you, this isn't me piecing info together. This is coming from sources from within the program. I know the school had to pony up more $ to make it work.
Magnum is going to transfer then, right?
I would like a Ken N/Sitake combination, with the understanding that Kalani is asst head coach and next in line.
But a big no to the triple option, would never fit at BYU and the only dual threat QB's in the picture are Beau Hoge, good solid back up, but that I all and Jaren Hall, who is Taysom like, but going on a mission. All the others in the pipeline are more traditional BYU types.
I hope if it is Ken, he gets an OC that would keep the current system. There are rumors about Ty Detmer, don't think they hold water, with the best option probably the current QB Coach Jason Beck.
NobodyHere
12-08-2015, 08:27 PM
I wasn't sure if your question was serious. The real answer is USC almost certainly has Employer Practices Liability Insurance.
It was more or less a case of me not thinking it through TBH
CU Tiger
12-08-2015, 09:15 PM
Has there ever been a case of a college coach being fired for sucking and then subsequently being successful on an equal level?
dawgfan
12-09-2015, 12:38 AM
Has there ever been a case of a college coach being fired for sucking and then subsequently being successful on an equal level?
Gene Stallings comes to mind.
Chief Rum
12-09-2015, 01:07 AM
Who is Ken N?
digamma
12-09-2015, 04:01 AM
Navy Head Coach Ken Niumatalolo, I think.
MacroGuru
12-09-2015, 07:49 AM
I would like a Ken N/Sitake combination, with the understanding that Kalani is asst head coach and next in line.
But a big no to the triple option, would never fit at BYU and the only dual threat QB's in the picture are Beau Hoge, good solid back up, but that I all and Jaren Hall, who is Taysom like, but going on a mission. All the others in the pipeline are more traditional BYU types.
I hope if it is Ken, he gets an OC that would keep the current system. There are rumors about Ty Detmer, don't think they hold water, with the best option probably the current QB Coach Jason Beck.
So my insider on Kens staff has said that Ken is coming to Provo, trying to convince the entire Offensive staff to stay and wants to try and get Kalani from OSU.
Ken was informed the Triple Option was not a possibility to run on offense here at BYU and he was fine with it and said that is what coordinators are for.
We will see if this catches legs or if the Navy counters BYU's offer.
CraigSca
12-09-2015, 07:54 AM
Terps hire Mike London as associate HC and DL coach. Bodes well for recruiting the Virginia area.
BYU 14
12-09-2015, 08:55 AM
Who is Ken N?
Navy Head Coach Ken Niumatalolo, I think.
Correct, one of only two solid choices IMO for the job (Him or Sataki), though Lance Anderson from Stanford would be solid as well, but I haven't heard much of him being in the mix.
BishopMVP
12-09-2015, 01:19 PM
Has there ever been a case of a college coach being fired for sucking and then subsequently being successful on an equal level?Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll. Oh, you said college. Hmm... Frank Beamer should have been fired... There has to have been some mid to lower level HC who got fired as HC, got a coordinator job at a big school then ascended to HC when that guy retired, but I'm coming up blank right now.
Has there ever been a case of a college coach being fired for sucking and then subsequently being successful on an equal level?
Maybe Frank Solich?
Rich Rodriguez?
That's all I got. And Solich wasn't unsuccessful at NU, he just wasn't Osborne.
BishopMVP
12-09-2015, 02:42 PM
RichRod's a good call. No, Arizona(/WV if he goes back) aren't quite on the same level Michigan is, but they're at the same conference level. Although that argument looked a lot better in September than it does after Arizona's 2015 season.
Atocep
12-09-2015, 03:43 PM
I think Holgorsen is back next year unless WVU lays an egg in the Cactus Bowl. As I said earlier, I expect an extension that is put in place for recruiting purposes. I also expect Jake Spavital to return to WVU as OC.
Next year will be Holgorsen's year to show real progress. If he doesn't then he'll be gone and the short list to replace him would probably go: Jimbo (unlikely), Tressell (show cause will be up and he's E. Gordon Gee's guy), and Rich in no particular order. After those guys you'd probably get into up and coming coaches like Brohm and Rhule.
CU Tiger
12-09-2015, 10:06 PM
Rich rod succeeded at his first stop (wvu) then struggled on a bigger stage.
MrBug708
12-09-2015, 11:10 PM
He was also a terrible fit for Michigan. I think he could do well at a variety of schools. He really needs to let go of the 3-3-5
JonInMiddleGA
12-11-2015, 01:01 PM
Jeremy Pruitt returns to Alabama as DC according to sources (being reported in both Tuscaloosa & Athens)
Can't say that I saw that one coming, figured the Michigan rumor would hold up.
JonInMiddleGA
12-11-2015, 01:22 PM
Tulane to hire Ga Southern coach Willie Fritz, per espn
ISiddiqui
12-11-2015, 02:08 PM
Well this is slightly amusing, in order to replace DC Chris Ash, who took Rutgers' HC gig, Ohio State just hired former Rutgers HC Greg Schiano as its new DC.
Atocep
12-11-2015, 02:20 PM
Well this is slightly amusing, in order to replace DC Chris Ash, who took Rutgers' HC gig, Ohio State just hired former Rutgers HC Greg Schiano as its new DC.
Schiano must not be very happy with the level of interest he's getting for head coach jobs. Can't see him being a DC for more than a year.
Butter
12-11-2015, 02:25 PM
He can help OSU get those sweet, sweet Jersey recruits.
Balldog
12-11-2015, 02:38 PM
I like the Schiano hire for Osu
Young Drachma
12-11-2015, 03:18 PM
Schiano must not be very happy with the level of interest he's getting for head coach jobs. Can't see him being a DC for more than a year.
The stories circulating is that he wasn't happy with the offers he got and overplayed his hand. I can't see this opening up some major job for him, but it's not like he needs the money, so it's all about the right fit. Might as well hang out in Columbus for the year, with a HC he likes without the pressure of being a head coach yet.
Swaggs
12-11-2015, 03:52 PM
Urban Meyer seems day-to-day, so maybe he is thinking he may get an opportunity if Meyer flakes out.
JonInMiddleGA
12-12-2015, 09:48 AM
My fears about UGA getting better under a new coach have just been considerably relieved.
Local paper reports that a plane just left en route to Pittsburgh to pick up the new OC Jim Chaney.
I can't stop LOL'ing.
They'll be BEGGING for the return of the hapless No-Schott offense within weeks. Truly, he was a perfect match for Derek Doofus during their time in Knoxville. Two of the most clueless human beings to ever meet in the same place, it was like watching a Congressional luncheon when they got together.
I could scarcely have handpicked a coach I'd want on the UGA staff more.
#CantStopLaughing
CU Tiger
12-12-2015, 09:59 AM
Yeah thats a weird one.
The Pitt fans I know were torn between wanting a new OC and not wanting to shake up what seemed like a rising tide at year's end.
I had like 3 UGA fans this week tell me UGA was hiring Clemson co-oc Tony Elliott and that it was a "done deal"...thats when you know you are talking to someone with no source. Clemson Alum. Given first coaching job by Swinney. Now is going to leave for same position, because obviously Clemson has shown they arent willing to pay coordinators, right?
MacroGuru
12-12-2015, 09:52 PM
Coach Ken comes into Provo on Monday, based upon the looks he was giving after the game today, it looked to me like he was saying goodbye.
GrantDawg
12-13-2015, 09:14 AM
Seems the Chaney hire was all about getting Sam Pittman. Smart has been saying all along that the number one issue he was going to address was the size and talent on the offensive line, and Pittman is reportedly the best o-line coach and recruiter in the country. They may have been the reason Smart targeted the Arkansas OC when no one had him on any list. Pittman was always the guy he wanted.
There were interesting words from Richt last night at the senior gala of UGA. He confirmed that Miami approached him about the job right after they fired Golden. He told them he was not interested at the time. Once he was let go, he was approached by 6 different schools but had actually planned to take the year off. He changed his mind because this was probably the only chance he'd have to return to Miami, so he decided to take the job.
GrantDawg
12-16-2015, 04:27 PM
This is probably the wrong thread for this, but what the heck is going on at Texas A&M?
Atocep
12-16-2015, 05:03 PM
This is probably the wrong thread for this, but what the heck is going on at Texas A&M?
From the sounds of it they want Sumlin gone. Players and administration. Sumlin was trying to sacrifice Spavital to buy another year, but that might not work.
BillJasper
12-16-2015, 05:19 PM
From the sounds of it they want Sumlin gone. Players and administration. Sumlin was trying to sacrifice Spavital to buy another year, but that might not work.
Isn't it kinda late in the game to make a coaching change?
General Mike
12-16-2015, 05:38 PM
Isn't it kinda late in the game to make a coaching change?
Never too late when you got money.
MrBug708
12-16-2015, 05:46 PM
Lot of NFL guys might be available soon
Atocep
12-16-2015, 06:20 PM
Isn't it kinda late in the game to make a coaching change?
The rumor on their end is he's out after the bowl.
BillJasper
12-16-2015, 08:04 PM
Lot of NFL guys might be available soon
Yeah. But they're usually available for a reason. :lol:
cartman
12-16-2015, 08:31 PM
Coach Ken is staying at Navy
digamma
12-16-2015, 09:05 PM
Will be interesting to see how Navy does next year. They had something ridiculous like 34 seniors in their 2 deep.
bhlloy
12-16-2015, 10:14 PM
Pretty incredible fall from grace for Sumlin, given all the major jobs he's supposedly been one of the frontrunners for over the last few years
MacroGuru
12-17-2015, 08:43 AM
Coach Ken is staying at Navy
Yes he is.
BYU wanted him because he is LDS and his understanding of recruiting in a tough environment with strict rules, but he wanted to bring the triple option.
Part of his offer was, no triple option and we will bring in your OC.
Looks like it should be Kalani Sitake, which will make me ecstatic to see one of my best friends from High School coaching in the D1 ranks and I am moving up to HS LB coach next year for one of the local high schools here.
There are some BYU fans that are hoping that Kyle Whittingham is so tired of Utah's AD that he is going to jump over. I do not see that happening.
Lot of NFL guys might be available soon
Yeah, they could probably even get Mike Sherman again.
digamma
12-17-2015, 11:20 AM
There are some BYU fans that are hoping that Kyle Whittingham is so tired of Utah's AD that he is going to jump over. I do not see that happening.
Even after the Las Vegas Bowl pep rally shenanigans?
MacroGuru
12-17-2015, 11:44 AM
Even after the Las Vegas Bowl pep rally shenanigans?
Yeah, Word on the street is Whitt told the players to not do anything and it wasn't adhered too.
Whitt is alumni as well, but I don't see him coming and taking a pay cut.
JonInMiddleGA
12-17-2015, 11:47 AM
Looks like it should be Kalani Sitake
Given that he's ended up a rather obvious "second choice" with how all this has played out, I'm not sure I completely grasp how someone would ever feel content or wanted.
No slight to him intended, I'm just saying that I don't know if I'd be willing to take the job at this point.
MacroGuru
12-17-2015, 12:13 PM
Given that he's ended up a rather obvious "second choice" with how all this has played out, I'm not sure I completely grasp how someone would ever feel content or wanted.
No slight to him intended, I'm just saying that I don't know if I'd be willing to take the job at this point.
So the way it plays out with BYU...you have to be active, you have to be temple worthy and you have to go through an interview with one of the church general authorities.
Word has it Kalani has been our AD's #1 but he was forced by the BoT and the GAs to move Ken to the #1 spot, he fit a more mission of the church / Bronco Mendenhall mold.
Tom looks at Kalani as that passionate recruiter that is solid at his X's and O's that will take us to where we need by getting the talent we need to get there.
Kalani knows how it has played out. My last message to him was, can't wait for the welcome home BBQ and his response was me too!
JonInMiddleGA
12-17-2015, 12:29 PM
So the way it plays out with BYU...you have to be active, you have to be temple worthy and you have to go through an interview with one of the church general authorities.
Word has it Kalani has been our AD's #1 but he was forced by the BoT and the GAs to move Ken to the #1 spot, he fit a more mission of the church / Bronco Mendenhall mold.
Tom looks at Kalani as that passionate recruiter that is solid at his X's and O's that will take us to where we need by getting the talent we need to get there.
Kalani knows how it has played out. My last message to him was, can't wait for the welcome home BBQ and his response was me too!
That's cool, I know there's additional steps/dynamics to the process there. But I'm looking at it from the outside thinking "okay, so as long as the AD is here then I'm in good shape ... but if the BoT ever takes a hand again then ... "
MacroGuru
12-20-2015, 10:53 AM
And it was announced yesterday prior to the bowl, that Kalani Sitake is the new head coach of BYU.
JonInMiddleGA
12-20-2015, 05:51 PM
Georgia Southern hires Colorado State DC Tyson Summers to fill the final D1 head coaching vacancy.
dawgfan
12-20-2015, 06:39 PM
Georgia Southern hires Colorado State DC Tyson Summers to fill the final D1 head coaching vacancy.
The final one for now...
;)
MacroGuru
12-21-2015, 02:41 PM
Just watched the Press Conference with Kalani..
I want the 2016 season to start now!
JonInMiddleGA
12-22-2015, 01:05 PM
Former FOFC HS football thread notable/Tucker HS alum Thomas Brown to join CMR in Miami as co-offensive coordinator.
http://onlineathens.com/breaking-news/2015-12-22/two-georgia-staff-set-follow-richt-miami
MacroGuru
12-23-2015, 09:31 AM
I know I keep harping here, but it's been 11 years since HC changes at BYU.
Looks like Kalani has convinced someone to finally coach in College. Get him away from the ranch and his comfortable lifestyle.
Ty Detmer is going to be the OC at BYU.
Logan
12-23-2015, 12:48 PM
Hey tarcone...in case you hadn't heard, figured I'd mention that your former center AJ Blazek is now the OL coach at Rutgers.
QuikSand
12-23-2015, 01:00 PM
Former FOFC HS football thread notable/Tucker HS alum Thomas Brown to join CMR in Miami as co-offensive coordinator.
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Dat boy coach so good...
albionmoonlight
12-23-2015, 01:19 PM
Former FOFC HS football thread notable/Tucker HS alum Thomas Brown to join CMR in Miami as co-offensive coordinator.
http://onlineathens.com/breaking-news/2015-12-22/two-georgia-staff-set-follow-richt-miami
Brown, 29, was making $275,000 at Georgia, but a co-coordinator role could mean a big boost in salary as well as responsibility.
Good for him.
JonInMiddleGA
12-23-2015, 01:34 PM
Bryan McClendon to leave UGA after the bowl, join the staff at South Carolina.
IMO that's the biggest loss from the Georgia staff in the shake up.
GrantDawg
12-24-2015, 05:08 AM
Bryan McClendon to leave UGA after the bowl, join the staff at South Carolina.
IMO that's the biggest loss from the Georgia staff in the shake up.
Yeah. Not a surprise, as it has been rumored from the beginning that he was leaving. Seems he and Kirby have some animosity from the recruiting trail. Thomas Brown was a surprise, though. He had already committed to stay. That co-coordinator title did it. More money, and chance for Richt to train him as an OC was too big to pass up (plus the money bump from the title).
General Mike
12-24-2015, 06:35 PM
The final one for now...
;)
Yep. Pete Lembo resigned at Ball State on Tuesday to become Maryland's ST coordinator.
Dennis Franchione retired at Texas State also.
tarcone
12-24-2015, 09:03 PM
Hey tarcone...in case you hadn't heard, figured I'd mention that your former center AJ Blazek is now the OL coach at Rutgers.
Hadn't heard. Thanks for sharing.
Great to see a former Hawkeye making a name for himself.
I imagine he will be successful.
dawgfan
12-24-2015, 09:51 PM
Yep. Pete Lembo resigned at Ball State on Tuesday to become Maryland's ST coordinator.
Dennis Franchione retired at Texas State also.
Just wait till the NFL coaching hiring/firing gets into full swing. Any bets on how many job openings Mora's agent floats his name for?
MrBug708
12-24-2015, 10:57 PM
Miami already floated his. I think if he's offered, he's gone
CU Tiger
12-25-2015, 11:32 AM
Dat boy coach so good...
We think so...
lungs
01-02-2016, 06:26 AM
LSU got a good one in Dave Aranda.
Eaglesfan27
01-06-2016, 07:49 AM
Although, I really wasn't happy with Clay Helton being fired, he has done a good job hiring his staff. In the last few days, he has hired:
OL Coach Neil Callaway from WKU who used to coach at Alabama back at the day and learned under Bear Bryant. WKU was among the nation's leaders in allowing fewest negative plays.
Passing Game Coordinator (and either RB or QB coach) Tyson Helton who helped develop WKU's QB into a top producer this year.
DC Clancy Pendergrast who produced top Pac-12 Defenses despite playing with very limited numbers (and no DB coach because Kiffin wanted his drinking buddy on staff and insisted on 2 OL coaches.)
Excited about these hires.
MrBug708
01-06-2016, 08:24 AM
Where does it say Clancy was hired?
Logan
01-06-2016, 09:41 AM
Seems FootballScoop is reporting that Oregon is looking at Pendergast at DC too.
Eaglesfan27
01-06-2016, 10:14 AM
Seems FootballScoop is reporting that Oregon is looking at Pendergast at DC too.
He reportedly has signed a contract with USC and it will be officially announced today. Oregon might end up getting Wilcox.
Atocep
01-06-2016, 10:30 AM
Rich firing Casteel in Arizona might be the most surprising thing I've seen this offseason.
JonInMiddleGA
01-06-2016, 11:45 AM
Beamer's son (Shane?) to UGA to coach special teams
cartman
01-06-2016, 11:55 AM
Larry Coker steps down at UTSA after helping get their football program started from scratch.
CU Tiger
01-06-2016, 12:02 PM
Beamer's son (Shane?) to UGA to coach special teams
Shane BEAMER is a recruiting BAUCE.
Great, great, great high energy dude.
Hate that he is going to be a damn dawg.
MrBug708
01-06-2016, 11:15 PM
Sumlin "steals" Noel Mazzone from UCLA
HomerSimpson98
01-07-2016, 10:11 AM
yeah UCLA fans give me your honest opinion on this guy. The dickweeds on our message boards arent too pleased. But Im getting to the point where I cant even login to that shit anymore. No one talks real football
MrBug708
01-07-2016, 12:19 PM
Solid coach but stubborn to no end with some of his play calling. Needs a dual threat QB to be effective. Terrible recruiter and talent evaluator. A few plays into a game you know whether or not you have good Mazzone or bad Mazzone.
HomerSimpson98
01-07-2016, 01:32 PM
WHolly shit. We just fired his younger brother then.
What about tempo? Does he play basketball on grass? Or does he pick and choose?
Give me something to be excited about.
Logan
01-07-2016, 01:40 PM
WHolly shit. We just fired his younger brother then.
What about tempo? Does he play basketball on grass? Or does he pick and choose?
Give me something to be excited about.
You'll probably have a new OC in 2 to 3 years?
dawgfan
01-07-2016, 03:29 PM
WHolly shit. We just fired his younger brother then.
What about tempo? Does he play basketball on grass? Or does he pick and choose?
Give me something to be excited about.
In 2014 at least UCLA was operating pretty quickly (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/5/15/8586169/hurry-up-offense-fastest-slowest), ranking 23rd in the country in pace of play (a few spots above the Aggies).
As far as being excited, I dunno. I'm not sure there's many offensive coordinators out there that don't have critics. I watched probably ~4-5 UCLA games per season, and while I wasn't blown away by their offense under Mazzone, they were pretty effective overall. Here's how they ranked in his time there:
2012 - PPG: 31st, FEI: 33rd, S&P: 42nd
2013 - PPG: 20th, FEI: 11th, S&P: 20th
2014 - PPG: 36th, FEI: 23rd, S&P: 8th
2015 - PPG: 45th, FEI: 39th, S&P: 23rd
He had Brett Hundley at QB for the first three seasons and true frosh Josh Rosen this past season. How impressive you find those numbers probably depends on how highly you rated their talent.
MrBug708
01-07-2016, 04:24 PM
It wasn't the statistical performance that was a problem, it was inserting a square peg into a round hole. The ASU game was a good example this year. They are a heavy blitz defense. So maybe some quick throws like slants would be helpful. Nope, zone read with a QB who doesn't keep the ball and we lost because everything was rushed. There were also the endless run, run, pass series that we went three and out.rush fir 4 yards. Rush for -1 yards, swing pass for 3. Punt.
No adjustments no matter the opponent
No mixing it up depending on the opponent
JonInMiddleGA
01-07-2016, 05:15 PM
7- Columbia. It really is a dump.
Yeah, that's a hellhole.
10- Their mascot is a chicken. The universal symbol of cowardice. Who wants to be a chicken :D
But that lent itself to one of my all-time favorite lines in college sports, when Ray Goff was eventually chased with the phrase "If you can't beat the poultry, go back to Moultrie"
:D
JonInMiddleGA
01-07-2016, 05:16 PM
Reports say UGA will name current Bama DB coach Mel Tucker as their DC.
That would be the former Bears & Jaguars DC, for those keeping score at home. The guy whose last 3 NFL squads ranked 30th in yards allowed.
JonInMiddleGA
01-08-2016, 03:11 PM
I guess this was actually from Wednesday but to be honest I only just saw it today.
Vols and defensive coordinator John Jancek part ways | Times Free Press (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2016/jan/06/vols-and-defensive-coordinator-john-jancek-part-ways/343485/)
Logan
01-09-2016, 08:37 PM
Replacing him with Shoop from PSU was a great move.
Atocep
01-13-2016, 10:59 AM
Looks like Casteel is going to UTEP to be the DC.
Jake Spavital is looking to either get closer to home or for a OC position with full control and won't end up at WVU.
Joe Wickline is likely headed to WVU to be Holgorsen's OC. Matt Caponi is leaving Arizona to coach safeties at WVU as well.
The Wickline hire is interesting. He won't be calling plays at WVU. He's very likely brought in to help with line play/running game and to give Holgorsen eyes in the box to relay info to him on the field. Something that would have been useful this past season.
Eaglesfan27
02-05-2016, 12:35 PM
Pat Haden announced he is retiring effective at the end of June. He will stay on as a consultant for a year to guide coliseum renovation project.
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