yabanci
12-23-2016, 01:46 PM
I already sent this in as a potential bug report, but has anybody noticed strange things about pass rushers in the game logs? I'm assuming somebody has and if so apologize, but I didn't find any mention of it in the forum so thought I would post just in case.
Anyway, in a 4-3 defense, according to the help file and in real life, the four down-linemen rush the passer on pass plays. Sometimes a DE will drop back in a zone blitz in the NFL, but by design this doesn't happen in FOF:
four linemen in a three-point stance in the 43, will rush the quarterback on pass plays. While in the NFL, defensive ends sometimes drop back in coverage (this allows them to implement a zone blitz out of the 43, as one example), in Front Office Football it would add too much complexity to game planning.
But when you check the logs of any team that runs a 4-3, it always shows three pass rushers and the RDE in short zone coverage on pass plays. I haven't seen a game log where the RDE rushes the passer. This happens in every type of coverage against every formation for both the 4-3 over and 4-3 under. Even in a goal-line formation where there should be five down linemen rushing the passer, four rush and the RDE is listed in a short zone.
The question is, is this just a cosmetic reporting error in the game logs or is the RDE really playing a short zone and not rushing the passer in the game engine. I have to think it's the former, but I haven't simmed enough seasons to know how the sack/pressure numbers are adding up. Any insight on that?
Here are a couple screenshots, you can check your logs and should see the same thing:
basic 4-3 - http://imgur.com/a/lpJNx
4-3 goal-line - http://imgur.com/a/7MivH
And in this shot you have a basic 3-4 defense against a 212 formation and the game log lists 2 pass rushers with a DT, a LB, and a CB all spying the quarterback. Don't recall ever seeing that before:
http://imgur.com/a/37sYz
btw, these are screenshots for AI teams so there's no issue of me making a game planning error.
(really not sure why I can't post an image rather than a link, always thought it was just an image link inside value)
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Anyway, in a 4-3 defense, according to the help file and in real life, the four down-linemen rush the passer on pass plays. Sometimes a DE will drop back in a zone blitz in the NFL, but by design this doesn't happen in FOF:
four linemen in a three-point stance in the 43, will rush the quarterback on pass plays. While in the NFL, defensive ends sometimes drop back in coverage (this allows them to implement a zone blitz out of the 43, as one example), in Front Office Football it would add too much complexity to game planning.
But when you check the logs of any team that runs a 4-3, it always shows three pass rushers and the RDE in short zone coverage on pass plays. I haven't seen a game log where the RDE rushes the passer. This happens in every type of coverage against every formation for both the 4-3 over and 4-3 under. Even in a goal-line formation where there should be five down linemen rushing the passer, four rush and the RDE is listed in a short zone.
The question is, is this just a cosmetic reporting error in the game logs or is the RDE really playing a short zone and not rushing the passer in the game engine. I have to think it's the former, but I haven't simmed enough seasons to know how the sack/pressure numbers are adding up. Any insight on that?
Here are a couple screenshots, you can check your logs and should see the same thing:
basic 4-3 - http://imgur.com/a/lpJNx
4-3 goal-line - http://imgur.com/a/7MivH
And in this shot you have a basic 3-4 defense against a 212 formation and the game log lists 2 pass rushers with a DT, a LB, and a CB all spying the quarterback. Don't recall ever seeing that before:
http://imgur.com/a/37sYz
btw, these are screenshots for AI teams so there's no issue of me making a game planning error.
(really not sure why I can't post an image rather than a link, always thought it was just an image link inside value)
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