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korme
05-15-2003, 09:24 PM
Well, it's safe to say that the dynasty of Kobe/Shaq is finished. They will probably never win more than 1 again as a combo, as Shaq is getting up there in age.

96-76, Spurs with a lil' over 6 to play.

The Afoci
05-15-2003, 09:35 PM
Can I get a THANK YOU JESUS!

korme
05-15-2003, 09:36 PM
The Lake Show and Phil especially almost can't believe it. They've come to expect to win every year. Not even making the finals is a big shocker in itself.

IMetTrentGreen
05-15-2003, 09:36 PM
you are welcome nba

and when the spurs add jermaine oneil or elton brand, a new dynasty will be born

korme
05-15-2003, 09:38 PM
wow that'd be sick.

but the Mavs will work the Spurs in the WC finals.

korme
05-15-2003, 09:39 PM
DFISH IS BAWLIN!

It's like NCAA - he's never experienced elimination!

Calis
05-15-2003, 09:39 PM
Man, that's what I'm thinking. You add Jermaine O'Neal to the Spurs...whooh, that'll be awesome.

Either way, I'm just happy that someone else will be winning the Championship this year, liven things up a bit.

I hope the Kings can pull one off on the Mavs now. :) It figures, the Lakers finally get knocked out, and the Kings will wind up losing anyway.

korme
05-15-2003, 09:40 PM
AND KOBE SHOWS TEARS!

IMetTrentGreen
05-15-2003, 09:41 PM
the mavs haven't had a great history of working the spurs of late. it'll be a fun series though

WussGawd
05-15-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Shorty3281
Well, it's safe to say that the dynasty of Kobe/Shaq is finished. They will probably never win more than 1 again as a combo, as Shaq is getting up there in age.

96-76, Spurs with a lil' over 6 to play.

Ding dong, the witch is dead, the wicked witch, the wicked witch. Ding dong the f***ing witch is dead.

Gawd, I hate the Lakers. I may even hate them worse than the Yankees, and that's pretty bad.

MizzouRah
05-15-2003, 09:47 PM
I don't like the NBA much, but it was nice to see the Lakers lose tonight. Duncan is unreal.


Todd

heybrad
05-15-2003, 09:47 PM
So, who is the conspiracy picking now?

Qwikshot
05-15-2003, 10:07 PM
I thought the Spurs are going after Jason Kidd...

ColtCrazy
05-15-2003, 10:11 PM
THANK YOU JESUS.

Maybe I can start watching the NBA again. I'm so glad the Lakers are gone.

Calis
05-15-2003, 10:11 PM
I just think the Spurs would be morons to go after Kidd. He's getting up there a bit in years, they have a kid in Parker who I think is going to be a helluva point guard. They really need another body down low to keep Duncan from being the sole center of attention all time.

I think a lot of the Kidd rumors were around before Parker emerged this year, they would both like to play on the same team they've said. Thing is, Duncan WON'T leave San Antonio, and I see no reason for SA to go after Kidd.

And as far as Brand and O'Neal, I really hope they go for O'Neal.

Qwikshot
05-15-2003, 10:12 PM
And they said Thome would never leave Cleveland...

Swaggs
05-15-2003, 10:13 PM
Shorty, I thought this would be about Edward McLemore. ;)

korme
05-15-2003, 10:38 PM
It would be more deserving, wouldn't it?

Swaggs
05-15-2003, 10:49 PM
I'm glad it wasn't. I have cried enough today.

tucker342
05-15-2003, 10:59 PM
:(:(:(

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neuqua
05-16-2003, 12:47 AM
Chandler and Curry are the two monsters the league will have to worry about.

We're coming back..

Airhog
05-16-2003, 01:28 AM
Good, I always root for the underdogs...

RonnieDobbs
05-16-2003, 01:29 AM
Is 3 Titles really a dynasty?

rexallllsc
05-16-2003, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by Neuqua
Chandler and Curry are the two monsters the league will have to worry about.

We're coming back..

I would have to say I really like Chicago's squad. Along with those two and Jamal Crawford, LOOK OUT!

Now if you can only trade J-Wil for something...

JeeberD
05-16-2003, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by RonnieDobbs
Is 3 Titles really a dynasty?

In this day and age, I would say that's as close as were gonna get...

Alf
05-16-2003, 02:35 AM
Sad as I really favored the Lakers, but the Spurs have our lttle Frenchy Tony Parker.

The Spurs are now closely followed in France and I recently saw an interview of Tony where they discussed the signing of Jason Kidd and he said he was going to work in evry possible way to prevent them from doing that (PG is his job !). Damn, their facilities are so impressive !!!

With Tony Parker and Emmanuelle Ginobili, the Spurs are safe for 4-5 years in the backcourt (depending on contracts situations). They would be wiser to go after a big guy such as Brand or Jermaine O'Neal as mentionned earlier. Robinson, Willis and Malik Rose won't last long (Robinson & Willis are off after this season).

RonnieDobbs
05-16-2003, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by JeeberD
In this day and age, I would say that's as close as were gonna get...

Funny, I seem to remember a team getting 6 in 8 years a little while ago... or is that no longer this day and age?

Neuqua
05-16-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by RonnieDobbs
Funny, I seem to remember a team getting 6 in 8 years a little while ago... or is that no longer this day and age?

w00t!

Alf
05-16-2003, 04:53 AM
Wasn't a certain Michael J playing for that team .

IMetTrentGreen
05-16-2003, 09:31 AM
spurs would be stupid to pay jason kidd that money. they need to replace daivd robinson

and luckily for us, the spurs have one of the smartest front offices in any proffessional sport

Subby
05-16-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by IMetTrentGreen
spurs would be stupid to pay jason kidd that money. they need to replace daivd robinson

and luckily for us, the spurs have one of the smartest front offices in any proffessional sport Yeah, I guess they aren't fucking lucky as hell.

Spare me :rolleyes:

heybrad
05-16-2003, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by RonnieDobbs
Funny, I seem to remember a team getting 6 in 8 years a little while ago... or is that no longer this day and age?
So why then is everyone claiming this dynasty is dead. Lets say they reel off 3 more after this season. Its too soon to say the dynasty is dead.

MrBug708
05-16-2003, 10:28 AM
Why do you want Jermaine O'Neal? He gets to play X amount of games in the Eastern Conference. He'd get eaten up in the Western Conference. Spurs don't need two PF's

Kodos
05-16-2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Subby
Yeah, I guess they aren't fucking lucky as hell.

Spare me :rolleyes:

Just wondering: What part of that 4th quarter beatdown would you consider to be "lucky"? :confused:

And what about Horry's shot against the Kings last year - Wouldn't that be considered "lucky"? Talk about sour grapes...:rolleyes:

JeeberD
05-16-2003, 11:58 AM
I'm guessing that Subby means that they were lucky that Robinson got hurt and they wound up with the first pick in the draft so they could get Duncan a year after being a high seed in the playoffs...

MylesKnight
05-16-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by heybrad
So, who is the conspiracy picking now?

Oh they'll be more conspiracies my friend.. You can count on that.. This in the National Basketball Association we are talking about..

The Refs can only do so much though, and last night the Clip-uh Lakers didn't even give the officials a fighting chance to help them out. :D

The thing now is I don't know who to pull for, as all I was really interested in seeing was the Lake Show put to an end, after the T-Wolves and Magic were knocked out..

My big question now is just how long will Kobe Bryant be in Los Angeles? I remember hearing something fairly recently about him possibly heading elsewhere eventually.. Memphis was mentioned among others... Any info on this?

Hammer755
05-16-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Just wondering: What part of that 4th quarter beatdown would you consider to be "lucky"? :confused:

And what about Horry's shot against the Kings last year - Wouldn't that be considered "lucky"? Talk about sour grapes...:rolleyes:

I would assume that Subby was referring to the top overall pick (and the resulting Tim Duncan) that fell into their lap after the one bad season that SA had when Robinson missed nearly the entire season.

heybrad
05-16-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by MylesKnight
My big question now is just how long will Kobe Bryant be in Los Angeles? I remember hearing something fairly recently about him possibly heading elsewhere eventually.. Memphis was mentioned among others... Any info on this?
This is a terrifying thought to Laker fans. This is all speculation, but here is one way this could go down.

Next year is huge for the Lakers. Phil Jackson probably retires after next year. Shaq has said he wont play anymore when Phil is done. That leaves Kobe and a rebuilding project in LA. Kobe has the option to opt out of his contract after next season. Jerry West is Kobe's mentor and he will be clearing cap room in Memphis if Kobe does opt out. If it happens, the Lakers will suddenly look like the Bulls after they broke up.

When Jerry West was the Lakers GM they made a point to say that always kept the free agents that they really wanted and for the most part West did that. Now Mitch Kupchak has to step up to the plate. Kupchak really hasnt done squat since West left so things are very much up in the air right now.

Swaggs
05-16-2003, 12:14 PM
Hey Brad.

MrBug708
05-16-2003, 12:22 PM
I think Kobe is unsure of what will happen after Shaq and Jackson retire. This offseason will go a long way in determining what Buss plans to do in the future. I think if we get a good group of FA's in LA, Kobe will stick around. Of course, Byron Scott will have to convince Kobe to stay as well

Franklinnoble
05-16-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by heybrad

Next year is huge for the Lakers. Phil Jackson probably retires after next year. Shaq has said he wont play anymore when Phil is done. That leaves Kobe and a rebuilding project in LA. Kobe has the option to opt out of his contract after next season. Jerry West is Kobe's mentor and he will be clearing cap room in Memphis if Kobe does opt out. If it happens, the Lakers will suddenly look like the Bulls after they broke up.

First, I don't mind if the Lakers look like the Bulls after they broke up. :)

Second, I think Shaq and Kobe will go to wherever the money is. Loyalties to West and Jackson aside, there are only a few teams in the league which are willing to pay a luxury tax, and have a legitimate shot at remaining in contention. Sacramento and Dallas come to mind... I don't know if there are any others.

I think Shaq playing for either the Kings or the Mavs makes them totally unbeatable.

Ok... I'm done talking out of my ass now.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER
05-16-2003, 12:43 PM
A breath of fresh air for all sports fans .

RendeR
05-16-2003, 01:14 PM
{obligatory basketball bashing}


the NBA is the poorest excuse for a major sporting league outside of major league baseball. The players are paid more to do less and bitch about even that. they all SUCK the sport SUCKS. Raise the rim to 12 feet, pur the 3 pt line another 18 inches out and move the foul line back a foot. Then perhaps MAYBE they'll have to really use some skill to play the game again. these overgrown orangutangs they have out there now don't even have to jump half the time to hit the basket. update the game, make it a challenge and not a joke. I'm a 6 foot tal fat man (over 300lbs) and *I* can dunk. Where is the c hallenge?


{/obligatory basketball bashing}

CHEMICAL SOLDIER
05-16-2003, 01:17 PM
Wow! So much hate there Render .

Franklinnoble
05-16-2003, 01:36 PM
You're 6" and over 300 and you can dunk?

I call bullshit. I'm 5'11" and 240, and, even when I was lean and mean at 200, I was nowhere NEAR being able to dunk.

heybrad
05-16-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by RendeR these overgrown orangutangs they have out there now don't even have to jump half the time to hit the basket.
It sounds like you have some issues to deal with.

Kodos
05-16-2003, 01:51 PM
I'm 5'10, 190, and I can't even sniff the basket. I have no hops!

Travis
05-16-2003, 01:54 PM
I'm white, I shoot threes.

Not well, but at least that way I can touch the rim :(

cuervo72
05-16-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
I'm 5'10, 190, and I can't even sniff the basket. I have no hops!

Your helmet may be too heavy. That, and your center of gravity is very low. Of course, having six legs should help.

MrBug708
05-16-2003, 02:38 PM
I'm 6-2 170 and I can touch the rim barely

korme
05-16-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Travis
I'm white, I shoot threes.

Travis
05-16-2003, 02:56 PM
I think Shorty is trying to send telepathic messages instead of written one's...