Kevin Spacey forced out of closet

[Thomkal]

after accusations of molestation became public:

Kevin Spacey comes out as gay Anthony Rapp accusation - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/kevin-spacey-comes-out-as-gay-anthony-rapp-accusation-2017-10)

[JPhillips]

Or, comes out in order to distract from molestation charges.

It's getting to the point where it's safer to assume anyone famous is a garbage human until proven otherwise.

[Thomkal]

yep exactly or give an excuse for them..oh I was drunk and confused about my sexuality...

[miami_fan]

Or, comes out in order to distract from molestation charges.


+1

[Butter]

This is probably not a great time to come out, but at the same time, if he doesn't say anything he looks like a dick. If he just says "I didn't do it", he looks like a dick. If he just says, "I'm sorry this happened" with no surrounding context, he looks like a dick.

I guess the moral is, don't attack a minor and you won't look like a dick.

[molson]

Seth Macfarlane tried to warn us about both Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein

Family Guy Kevin Spacey - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtjdbHG96k)

Seth MacFarlane Calls Out Harvey Weinstein Back In 2013 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCNvREKTnQc)

[stevew]

No excuses for inappropriate behavior but Kevin Spacey was approximately 26 years old when this happened and the kid was what 14? I know that 26 year olds and 14 year olds should not be together but the headline makes it sound like it was 50 some year old Kevin Spacey forcing himself on a 14 year old boy.


The actor Anthony Rapp accused the "House of Cards" star Kevin Spacey, 58, of making a sexual advance toward him when Rapp was 14, in 1986.

At least state Spacey's age then, too

[Logan]

No excuses for inappropriate behavior but Kevin Spacey was approximately 26 years old when this happened and the kid was what 14? I know that 26 year olds and 14 year olds should not be together but the headline makes it sound like it was 50 some year old Kevin Spacey forcing himself on a 14 year old boy.


The actor Anthony Rapp accused the "House of Cards" star Kevin Spacey, 58, of making a sexual advance toward him when Rapp was 14, in 1986.

At least state Spacey's age then, too

Why? It should quite literally make no difference in the eyes of anyone, unless you want to differentiate between "creepy old hebephile" and just the Plain Jane "creepy hebephile" for some reason.

[cuervo72]

If Spacey would have been a hot teacher...

[larrymcg421]

Seth Macfarlane tried to warn us about both Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein

Family Guy Kevin Spacey - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtjdbHG96k)

Seth MacFarlane Calls Out Harvey Weinstein Back In 2013 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCNvREKTnQc)

Reminds me of how Tina Fey had jokes about Cosby on both 30 Rock and SNL.

It almost seems like we might be able to find out other perpetrators by looking at old sitcoms/sketch/stand-up acts for jokes that may have just seemed random at the time.

[ISiddiqui]

*hebephile

And did Spacey know Rapp's age at the time (they were both fellow cast members in a Broadway production, I think) is important to find out as well.

[larrymcg421]

*hebephile

And did Spacey know Rapp's age at the time (they were both fellow cast members in a Broadway production, I think) is important to find out as well.

Well if he didn't, that certainly would've been a better defense from him than "I don't remember, but I'm gay."

[ISiddiqui]

Well if he didn't remember doing it, then he probably didn't remember if he knew Rapp's age ;).

[Logan]

*hebephile

Apologies.

[stevew]

Why? It should quite literally make no difference in the eyes of anyone, unless you want to differentiate between "creepy old pedophile" and just the Plain Jane "creepy pedophile" for some reason.

Come on man there's a huge difference between saying that a 26-27 year old was with a 14 year old which is fucking creepy as hell and saying that a 58 year old was with a 14 year old. All the article had to say was Spacey then 27, made an inappropriate Advance towards Rapp, then 14

[Logan]

Come on man there's a huge difference between saying that a 26-27 year old was with a 14 year old which is fucking creepy as hell and saying that a 58 year old was with a 14 year old. All the article had to say was Spacey then 27, made an inappropriate Advance towards Rapp, then 14

Good luck with that.

[CrescentMoonie]

And House of Cards is done.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-kevinspacey-netflix/netflix-ending-house-of-cards-says-troubled-by-spacey-allegation-idUSKBN1CZ2IY

[molson]

And House of Cards is done.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-kevinspacey-netflix/netflix-ending-house-of-cards-says-troubled-by-spacey-allegation-idUSKBN1CZ2IY

They say they're still going to do season 6 though, which just started filming. Spacey hasn't even gotten to the set yet. And I don't think many people expected a Season 7 regardless.

It would probably be a financial nightmare to bail on Season 6 at this point, but maybe that will still happen if the story lingers in the news, or if there's other accusations against him.

[Carman Bulldog]

I'm curious what the age of consent was in New York (I assume this was New York due to the Broadway reference) back around 1986 when this occurred.

If the age of consent was 14, other than the issue being morally wrong in most peoples books (unless as mentioned it's an attractive female teacher), is there even a story here?

[cuervo72]

If he didn't consent, yeah.

edit: A year ago, maybe not (though it shouldn't matter). In the current climate, yes.

[molson]

The production of season 6 of House of Cards is now "suspended indefinitely".

It's hard to analyze or judge for the outside, and maybe the cast and crew didn't want to deal with awkwardness of Spacey on the set, but, it kind of sucks that people have to lose their jobs over this. And I think it can only dissuade future allegations like this.

Also, I didn't realize that the accuser was the teen sidekick in adventures in babysitting. That movie came out about 2 years after the incident at the party.

[RainMaker]

I understand their reasoning but at the same time it kind of sucks that so many people will lose their jobs over this. A lot of people put a lot into the show.

[bob]

I wonder if they will rework the script and come back without Spacey. I seem to recall the end of season 5 being Robin Wright's character saying "It's my turn," so it would fit.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I wonder if they will rework the script and come back without Spacey. I seem to recall the end of season 5 being Robin Wright's character saying "It's my turn," so it would fit.

Without him, seems pretty pointless. The cost of producing it would likely exceed the benefits.

[molson]

Shit really falling apart for Spacey now - more allegations, dropped by his agents and publicists. He's done.

It seems like Netflix isn't ready to pull the plug on House of Cards though, they're still trying to figure out if there's a path for a Season 6, presumably without Spacey. Or they may spin into a new series focused on the Doug Stamper character.

[Warhammer]

Love this on wikipedia:

"Kevin Spacey Fowler KBE is an American actor, film and television director, producer, screenwriter, singer and paedophile."

[albionmoonlight]

I wonder if they will rework the script and come back without Spacey. I seem to recall the end of season 5 being Robin Wright's character saying "It's my turn," so it would fit.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4tvAjX5ACPo/hqdefault.jpg

[CrimsonFox]

Shit really falling apart for Spacey now - more allegations, dropped by his agents and publicists. He's done.

It seems like Netflix isn't ready to pull the plug on House of Cards though, they're still trying to figure out if there's a path for a Season 6, presumably without Spacey. Or they may spin into a new series focused on the Doug Stamper character.

Bah...it's the entertainment biz. He'll be fine.

NOw if he were in sports he'd be even more fine.

[RainMaker]

Without him, seems pretty pointless. The cost of producing it would likely exceed the benefits.

I think people would tune in to see how they killed him off. But I agree, without him, what's the point?

[stevew]

Isn't there a thing in the British show where they kill the character off that Spacey is based on

[CrimsonFox]

I think people would tune in to see how they killed him off. But I agree, without him, what's the point?

Bring in Ashton Kutcher to replace him! It worked so well before!

[nilodor]

Or they may spin into a new series focused on the Doug Stamper character.

This would be the worst. It's between him and the FBI guy for my least favourite character.

[stevew]

I'm guessing there's probably a stipulation in his contract where it's "no me, no show." Or they'll still have to pay him 500K(or whatever his rate is)an episode

[CrimsonFox]

I wonder if they would dare have art imitate life and add a sex scandal into this next season.

[MrBug708]

Bring in Ashton Kutcher to replace him! It worked so well before!

Replacing Sheen was easier than replacing Carrell. When they did iy on the office we got the worst tv character of all time, Robert California.

[NobodyHere]

I wonder if they would dare have art imitate life and add a sex scandal into this next season.

I would not be surprised to see his character be given the Chef treatment.

[ISiddiqui]

I think his salty balls (albeit vanilla) are the problem here, no?

[CrimsonFox]

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I guess Kev used method acting for this scene.

[dave731]

I can't believe people are defending Spacey...just mind boggling that this is being normalized to this degree. 58 or 26 doesn't matter...it's still spelled pedophile.

[Carman Bulldog]

I can't believe people are defending Spacey...just mind boggling that this is being normalized to this degree. 58 or 26 doesn't matter...it's still spelled pedophile.

Ephebophile (or maybe Hebephile).

[JPhillips]

I can't believe people are defending Spacey...just mind boggling that this is being normalized to this degree. 58 or 26 doesn't matter...it's still spelled pedophile.

That's unfair. I didn't read that as defending Spacey as much as criticizing the media.

[CrimsonFox]

wow.

So a movie set to be released on Dec 22...starring Spacey... has been recast with Christopher PLummer and they are reshooting WITHOUT changing the date.

Another film starring and produced by Spacey that is in POST-production...is being shelved.

I've never quite seen this before.

Hell Casey Affleck just won an oscar!

[molson]

Based on the trailer and the fact that they're still releasing it that month, I'm guessing he must not be in the movie much, and doesn't have any scenes with the two leads.

ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD - Official Trailer (HD) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x62O8A8qHw)

And ya, Gore Vidal is a Netflix movie that Netflix has decided just to sit on. Just like the Bill Cosby special. Maybe they can put together some kind special section on the website for content held back due to sexual misconduct.

So this is the last Kevin Spacey project still out there, apparently.

Billionaire Boys Club (2018 film - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billionaire_Boys_Club_(2018_film))

Here's just the first part of the first sentence of the plot summary on IMDB:

"A group of wealthy boys in Los Angeles during the early 1980s...."

Well, it's in Spacey's wheelhouse at least.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Out of curiosity, did I miss Spacey admitting to misconduct? (I saw the "there are things I don't remember due to drinking")

Or is all we have thus far unproven accusations?

I see the story pop up on FB's "trending" now & then, that's why I knew about the movie stuff today. But that's about the extent of how much I've followed it so I'm legitimately asking (in case that isn't clear).

[molson]

Spacey hasn't said a thing since that tweet.

But multiple accusations + existing Holywood open secret that he's a creep + (my speculation) the cast of House of Cards not wanting to work with him again = the end of his career. Once House of Cards shut down, which took a few days, it seems like it was easier for everyone else to move on without him.

[CrimsonFox]

Based on the trailer and the fact that they're still releasing it that month, I'm guessing he must not be in the movie much, and doesn't have any scenes with the two leads.

ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD - Official Trailer (HD) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x62O8A8qHw)

And ya, Gore Vidal is a Netflix movie that Netflix has decided just to sit on. Just like the Bill Cosby special. Maybe they can put together some kind special section on the website for content held back due to sexual misconduct.

So this is the last Kevin Spacey project still out there, apparently.

Billionaire Boys Club (2018 film - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billionaire_Boys_Club_(2018_film))

Here's just the first part of the first sentence of the plot summary on IMDB:

"A group of wealthy boys in Los Angeles during the early 1980s...."

Well, it's in Spacey's wheelhouse at least.

Wahlberg and the other (I forget who now) said they were on board to reshoot their scenes with Plummer but you're right. He must not have been in it much timewise


Plummer is indeed a supporting actor (villian of wiseman) wherever he shows up :)

[CrimsonFox]

Spacey hasn't said a thing since that tweet.

But multiple accusations + existing Holywood open secret that he's a creep + (my speculation) the cast of House of Cards not wanting to work with him again = the end of his career. Once House of Cards shut down, which took a few days, it seems like it was easier for everyone else to move on without him.

there really is no such thing as end of career over stuff like this. I mean ROman Polanski...

[Kodos]

Hopefully authorities have taken Spacey's passport.

[cartman]

Hopefully authorities have taken Spacey's passport.

I think the name in it was Verbal Kint.

[Flasch186]

Not to defend anybody but I just am really nervous about the guilty first doctrine rolling through our country right now. Thats all.

[Kodos]

When there is only one accuser, there's room for reasonable doubt. But with so many accusers, the preponderance of the evidence suggests... guilty.

[QuikSand]

He very rapidly and quietly sold his house near Annapolis last week. Guy may indeed be doing a Verbal Kint.

[CrimsonFox]

I think the name in it was Verbal Kint.

https://img.discogs.com/WDvKgniE5uoLsWgLY8AjdW5ySQY=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-1129310-1228954265.jpeg.jpg

I think you mean ORAL Kint

[albionmoonlight]

https://img.discogs.com/WDvKgniE5uoLsWgLY8AjdW5ySQY=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-1129310-1228954265.jpeg.jpg

I think you mean ORAL Kint

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/impressed-gif-16.gif

[miami_fan]

Is it really guilt first in this or the Weinstein case? Based on all the reporting, this accused behavior of both guys was well known in their community. Seems to me most people believed that they were at the very least not guilty, at best completely innocent, with yes he does it but oh well somewhere in the middle.

[stevew]

Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32


See at least the Washington Post can report a headline in context

[CrimsonFox]

Game of Cards is continuing without Spacey!

[QuikSand]

Game of Cards is continuing without Spacey!

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

[larrymcg421]

I'm sure participation in his weekly card games has dropped recently.

[NobodyHere]

Sex assault charge dropped against actor Kevin Spacey - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/sex-assault-charges-dropped-actor-kevin-spacey/story?id=64399529)

Looks like the case folded like a house of cards.

[CrimsonFox]

Sex assault charge dropped against actor Kevin Spacey - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/sex-assault-charges-dropped-actor-kevin-spacey/story?id=64399529)

Looks like the case folded like a house of cards.

also brilliant

[miami_fan]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/kevin-spacey-1st-film-role-sexual-assault-allegations/story?id=77850104

"Alexa, what is the opposite of cancelled?"

[CrimsonFox]

No excuses for inappropriate behavior but Kevin Spacey was approximately 26 years old when this happened and the kid was what 14? I know that 26 year olds and 14 year olds should not be together but the headline makes it sound like it was 50 some year old Kevin Spacey forcing himself on a 14 year old boy.


The actor Anthony Rapp accused the "House of Cards" star Kevin Spacey, 58, of making a sexual advance toward him when Rapp was 14, in 1986.

At least state Spacey's age then, too

oh NOW I know who this guy is! He's the scarf-wearing guy who beat Rent to death on broadway and in the movie. He was playing the lead role (along with Adam Paschal) LONG after he was too old to play it.

[Vegas Vic]

I guess Kev used method acting for this scene.

See "House of Cards" President Frank Underwood for more recent examples, including a bi-sexual threesome between Frank, wife Claire and a Secret Service agent.

https://i.imgur.com/h7AtVoN.jpg

[Edward64]

Congrats to Spacey.

Yeah, CNN reported on it but DM had more context & pics.

Home | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html)
Kevin Spacey is CLEARED of sex assaults: Oscar-winning House of Cards star breaks down in tears as he is found not guilty of nine sex offences against four men after Elton John gave evidence in his defense and trial heard claimants lied for cash

FWIW, the Elton John evidence reported in the article (many other celebrities apparently testified also) didn't seem like much.

I accept the jury judgement. Wouldn't surprise me if he was more "aggressive" than he should have been it but jury didn't find it to level of "sex assault". Probably a little bit of money grab also played into it.

I hope he gets his life (and money) back, and gets some roles.