BULLSHIT!!! BULLSHIT!!!

[mrbuttercup]

REFS=BULLSHIT CALLS ALL NIGHT

PISTONS IN 6

[Draft Dodger]

capital letters!!! capital letters!!!

exclamation marks = even more emphasis

basketball sucks

[vtbub]

Don't feed the troll.

[EagleFan]

He's right, that was an obvious offensive goal tending call they missed.

[KWhit]

Was there a basketball game tonight?

[vtbub]

Originally posted by KWhit
Was there a basketball game tonight?

No, the Mavs play tomorrow. ;)

[MrBug708]

The B league is playing

[KWhit]

Ah yes. The minor leagues.

[cmp]

Detroit got screwed out of a lot of calls tonight. Just a few seconds before the three Detroit was called for a foul on a play that looked exactly like Billups' three. If Jefferson was fouled by Williamson then Billups was easily fouled by Kidd. NBA refs are absolutely horrible. There are very very inconsistent

And the Western Conference sucks. I won't be watching the Mavs and Spurs tomorrow.

[EagleFan]

Williamson left his feet on the fake, Kidd was planted on the ground with arms straight up.

[vtbub]

Those officials had to go somewhere, the Lakers can't be protected anymore.

[cmp]

Originally posted by EagleFan
Williamson left his feet on the fake, Kidd was planted on the ground with arms straight up.

He still didn't hit him. NBA refs anticipate everything. There blowing the whistle before anything even happens.

[EagleFan]

They've called that all year. Once a guy bites on a fake he's pretty much screwed with a foul call whether he commits one or not. It's not like that was the first time that call has ever been made.

[cmp]

Originally posted by EagleFan
They've called that all year. Once a guy bites on a fake he's pretty much screwed with a foul call whether he commits one or not. It's not like that was the first time that call has ever been made.

Still doesn't make it a good call. And there were plenty more plays then that where Detroit got screwed out of a call. Detroit taps a guy, FOUL! Somebody on Detroit gets thrown to the floor and there's no call.

[vtbub]

They've played two games a a pace that benefits Detroit and came up empty.


I get the sense that whoever plays either SA or Dallas will get swallowed alive.

[cmp]

Originally posted by vtbub


I get the sense that whoever plays either SA or Dallas will get swallowed alive.

I'm thinking SA or Dallas will be mighty surprised when they get to the Finals and it's not a cake walk like they thought it would be.

[Vince]

If by "not a cake walk like they thought it would be" you mean they can only win in 5 rather than sweep, then you're probably right. Either Western Conference team can and most likely will whomp the Nets. I think Detroit could make them decent games, but at this point it's going to take some doing for them to make the Finals.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally posted by vtbub
They've played two games a a pace that benefits Detroit and came up empty.


I get the sense that whoever plays either SA or Dallas will get swallowed alive.

for more information, see Ducks, Anaheim

[Daimyo]

This guy reminds me of early HornsManiac.

[vtbub]

Ya think Ben Wallace can play goalie too? ;)

[Anrhydeddu]

I thought basketball ended when Syracuse won the championship?

[MizzouRah]

It did. :)



Todd

[Schmidty]

Don't hate the Pistons just because one of their fans is a complete moron.

(I left myself wide open with that one.)

[ice4277]

I just got back from the game. Great atmosphere, unfortunate (from my point of view) ending. This series is turning into a contest of who wants to give it away the most, and so far the Pistons are doing a much better job of that. Some of the coaching moves by Carlisle were questionable tonight as well. I give the Pistons about a 10% chance of still winning the series.

[EagleFan]

Sorry Schmidty. I don't hate the Pistons. Just rooting for the team that is more local and seeing a Piston fan like that makes it so much easier to root for the Nets.

Now back to the foul calls. Gold101, I compare this to a baseball game. If the umpire is calling stuff 6 inches off the plate a strike all night and you take a 3-2 pitch 6 inches off the plate with 2 out in the ninth, don't be pissed that you just got rung up.

[Happy29]

Did someone say ... The BCS ?

[Jets80]

It's kinda sad when losing team fans blamit on the ref's.

[Airhog]

Even sadder when a winning teams fan blames it on the ref

[JeeberD]

Go Mavs!!!

[Blackadar]

Want to know why the Pistons lost both games? It's not the refs.

Game 1 Free Throws

Nets - 13 of 19 (missed 6)
Pistons - 20 of 30 (missed 10, lost by 2)

Game 2 Free Throws

Nets - 19 of 24 (missed 5)
Pistons - 23 of 34 (missed 11, lost by 2)

Hmmm...seems that the Pistons have been getting to the line more often than the Nets, but they're not converting.

[illinifan999]

Was a good no call. You could tell by the fact Billups wasn't complaining to the refs at the end, and the announcers all agreed that Kidd did a great defensive job to get his feet set, and arms straight up into the air.

[cmp]

I'm not blaming this one the refs. But if they had been consistent all night chances of Detroit winning would have been much greater. Detroit, for the second straight game blew a win. Up by 8 at the end of 3 in Game 1 and up by 9 at the end 3 in Game 2 and they can't get a win out of it. I'm just very pissed right now, mainly at the Pistons.

And the no call at the end was correct. I knew it wasn't a foul, but I'd like to see the refs be a little more consistent. They call one thing a foul on one possesion, and then the same thing happens and it's not a foul on a possesion later on. It really starts to piss you off.

[mrbuttercup]

My bullshit bullshit thread wasnt too bash the refs about that last call either...I totally agree with gold, I am sayin the refs have been callin a bunch of bullshit all game, and series. The Pistons did blow it, and i am very angry, however, a little consistancy from the refs would be nice. Detroit is still gonna win this series, rather its in 6 or 7 idk, but it will happen. Write it down, and o yea, the West sucks, no one plays D, They are gonna be in for a nice wake up call when the Pistons play them, who ever it may be!!

[mrbuttercup]

idiot fan, haha, nice.
I like that one, take you a long time to think of that. Dont be mad....:(

[mrbuttercup]

Were gettin to the line b/c we are not a bunch of Pussy's like the Nets and that fuckin, kiss blowin FAG KIDD. thats y we get to the line. Look deeper than the stats fuckin moron. DONT PISS ME OFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE PISTONS, (or johnny b) :)

[Calis]

Wow, I'm actually in awe.

[Hammer755]

I don't think it was the refs who blew double-digit second half leads in each of the first two games.

[Schmidty]

Originally posted by mrbuttercup
Were gettin to the line b/c we are not a bunch of Pussy's like the Nets and that fuckin, kiss blowin FAG KIDD. thats y we get to the line. Look deeper than the stats fuckin moron. DONT PISS ME OFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE PISTONS, (or johnny b) :)

Do you find yourself wiping up a lot of drool from your facemask and chin strap?

[Neuqua]

Nets 2, Pistons 0

[mrbuttercup]

DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

[Neuqua]

Originally posted by mrbuttercup
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

Ok.. Guess who the SECOND best defensive team in the league was.. By golly it was the Nets.. That side of their play gets ignored because their offense can be so much fun to watch.. They've got plus defenders at every position except for maybe C, although Collins isn't half bad.

[sachmo71]

I don't think Jason Kidd is gay. He's strange, but not gay.

[cmp]

Originally posted by Hammer755
I don't think it was the refs who blew double-digit second half leads in each of the first two games.

I never said the refs blew the double-digit lead. I said that Detroit blew it. But the refs sure didn't help.

[ice4277]

Originally posted by mrbuttercup
Were gettin to the line b/c we are not a bunch of Pussy's like the Nets and that fuckin, kiss blowin FAG KIDD. thats y we get to the line. Look deeper than the stats fuckin moron. DONT PISS ME OFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE PISTONS, (or johnny b) :)

classy, very classy

[illinifan999]

See now the unitentional humor is starting to set in. ;)

Nets 2
Pistons 0

Seriously, trying to be as unbiased as I can right here:

Either the Pistons are going to be better than ever or they will get swept. It's not easy to lose 2 straight games on last second shots, much less at home where you blew a double-digit lead.

[Qwikshot]

Go Nets!!!

[tucker342]

mrbuttercup,

I believe that it's 2-0 New Jersey... What's going on with your Pistons???:D

[mrbuttercup]

"That side of their play gets ignored because their offense can be so much fun to watch."

HAHA yea ur totally right, Im wrong, Im wrong about everything, You guys are right. NJ is a such a fun team to watch, theie roster is just filled with prolific scorers!!! Oh, whos the number 1 defensive team in the NBA!!!hmmm......

[vtbub]

If the Pissed-ons lose will you go away?

[mrbuttercup]

M pistons were down 3-1 to Orlando, they won that series didnt they, i think so. Didnt they also give up 2 in a row to philly and win thatt series...I believe so... Detroit is used to being against the wall, I dont like it, but for some odd reason, detroit iusually has lapeses like this over a 2 or 3 game stretch, however, they get their act together and rip of 4 or 5 in a row. Beating this NJ club should be no problem. Just remember NJ has to win 4 games, not 2. The Fat bitch hasnt came out yet fella's.

[Schmidty]

Now even Neuqua's piling on my beloved Pistons because of that moron.

[mrbuttercup]

aaawww, im soo sorry...haha

[mrbuttercup]

dont u care enough to get pissed off.

[EagleFan]

It's funny how he can compare being down 3-1 to an 8 seed to being down 2-0 after losing both home games to the defending conference champions.

You're probably still thinking the Tigers are going to make the post season this year too. :D

[Kodos]

And that Barry Sanders will be back any day now.

[mrbuttercup]

actually, the I hate baseballa nd the Tigers, and I dont care for barry sanders either. I am a realist, and know what I am talkin abuot, and the Magic weren't a typical eight seed. And NJ played the bucks and Celtics, wwoooooowww!!! watch out!!! tough teams!!! Detroit is "battle tested" and will show up the rest of the series. I am confident that the Magic or sixers, would kill NJ

[cmp]

The Tigers still will make the postseason this year. What the hell are you talking about? Mike Maroth is unstoppable!!!!

[mrbuttercup]

What was I thinkin....hmmmmm????

[Blackadar]

Originally posted by mrbuttercup
What was I thinkin....hmmmmm????

If, as usual, probably not much and not well.

[mrbuttercup]

HEHE...um...NO

[Neuqua]

Originally posted by Schmidty
Now even Neuqua's piling on my beloved Pistons because of that moron.

It's not hard to figure out why, you've spoken with me on AIM before so you know my screen name :)

And it's funny because this guy has you believing the Nets won 10 games this year and have no business in the Eastern Conference Finals. This team won 49 games, had the #2 defense in the league and was arguably the conference's best offensive team all year.

I'm a Nets fan and I will give props to Detroit's defense, it's stifling. They've given the Nets two extremely tough games and the Nets are very lucky to be coming out of Detroit with the two wins.

Not once in this entire thread has he given even a little credit to New Jersey, and it's pathetic.

[Airhog]

Go yankees!

[mrbuttercup]

I will never, NEVER, give NJ credit for a anything. I am a PISTONS FAN, and a die hard one...

[Qwikshot]

Go Shaved Beavers!!!

[Blackadar]

Originally posted by mrbuttercup
I will never, NEVER, give NJ credit for a anything. I am a PISTONS FAN, and a die hard one...

And that's what they're going to do this series...die hard.

Or is that bite the hard one?

Either way...TOAST.

[cmp]

Just wait until next year.

Billups, Rip, Tayshaun, Ben, Darko, Okur

Things are looking good

[ice4277]

I think gold101 and mr. buttercup are the same person.

[JeeberD]

You're not the only person who thinks that...

[EagleFan]

I think there are some serious issues that need to be addressed, that's for sure. At least he'll have a lot of extra time soon with no more Pistons to watch. :D

[ISiddiqui]

Why do you build them up, mr buttercup, when they all let you down...

;)

[JeeberD]

Just so you know, when I see you name I read " I Squiddy". I hope you don't mind... :)

[tucker342]

What's up with your Pistons man? After tonight it will be 3-0.

[Blackadar]

Dude, it already is 3-0

[Ragone]

Clearly the pistons are the most underrated team to ever get swept out of a conference finals :)

[tucker342]

good point

[tucker342]

than that makes it even worse

[EagleFan]

Wow, you can almost hear a pin drop. Or if we were in Detroit we could hear... "Fore!!!" Move over Federov, you've got some company on the back 9.

[Travis]

mrbuttercup do something drastic because of the sweep? he's been a lot less vocal lately...

[Schmidty]

Originally posted by EagleFan
Wow, you can almost hear a pin drop. Or if we were in Detroit we could hear... "Fore!!!" Move over Federov, you've got some company on the back 9.

Classy.

By the way, who beat the Sixers again?

[JeeberD]

Go Rox!!!!

Oh, wait, we didn't make the playoffs. Crap...

[illinifan999]

:D

[korme]

Originally posted by JeeberD
Go Rox!!!!

Oh, wait, we didn't make the playoffs. Crap...


We'll just have to wait til next year!!

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by Schmidty
Classy.

By the way, who beat the Sixers again?

I didn't see a broom in our loss...

[ice4277]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
I didn't see a broom in our loss...

So you'd rather get bounced in the second round than the conference finals?

[EagleFan]

This has nothing to really do with being swept over losing in an earlier round. The difference is that Qwik didn't start up a thread whining about the officials and about how under-rated the Sixers were. If you want to cry for attention over your team and act like a moron than you better be able to take what you get when they lose. Mrs Butterworth started the crap, now has to deal with it.

[Schmidty]

Originally posted by EagleFan
This has nothing to really do with being swept over losing in an earlier round. The difference is that Qwik didn't start up a thread whining about the officials and about how under-rated the Sixers were. If you want to cry for attention over your team and act like a moron than you better be able to take what you get when they lose. Mrs Butterworth started the crap, now has to deal with it.

Well then you need to deal with the fact that there are other fans of the team, who didn't start this thread and have absolutely nothing to do with Mrs. Buttercup, but are going to defend their team when it is attacked by others.

I have nothing against trash talking, especially if it's in good fun, but don't expect Piston fans to sit back and take it up the ass when their favorite team is being trashed.

[cmp]

Originally posted by Schmidty
Well then you need to deal with the fact that there are other fans of the team, who didn't start this thread and have absolutely nothing to do with Mrs. Buttercup, but are going to defend their team when it is attacked by others.

I have nothing against trash talking, especially if it's in good fun, but don't expect Piston fans to sit back and take it up the ass when their favorite team is being trashed.

Exactly.

[vtbub]

Wah Wah Wah.

I give Detroit a lot of credit for what they accomplished this year. They got beat by a better team. I really had not thought about the Pistons until this whine fest started and it brought back the great whine fests of the late 80's about the poor poor Pistons.

Instead of bitching about how much they were disrespected, you should be happy that they made it as far as they did.

They want to go further, two words-Carmelo Anthony.

[Schmidty]

Originally posted by vtbub
Wah Wah Wah.

I give Detroit a lot of credit for what they accomplished this year. They got beat by a better team. I really had not thought about the Pistons until this whine fest started and it brought back the great whine fests of the late 80's about the poor poor Pistons.

Instead of bitching about how much they were disrespected, you should be happy that they made it as far as they did.

They want to go further, two words-Carmelo Anthony.

At what point have you seen me "bitching about how much they were disrespected"?

I could care less about respect, because I could care less what the majority of NBA fans think. Wins are the only thing that matter, and I understand that. You'll never hear me say anything other than the fact that the Pistons were beaten by the better team.

The Pistons future is incredibily bright, and I can't wait to see it unfold.

[vtbub]

I was not referring to your post Schmidty.

[cmp]

Who exactly were you referring to then vtbub?

[vtbub]

you and buttercup

[mrbuttercup]

Throw it doooown K Mart....Throw it doooowwn!!! Y is Bill Walton such a huge nets fan>>hmmm....

[mrbuttercup]

Qwickshot, does it matter that we didnt sweep the sixers. We still beat them. So y u tryin to trash the Pistons for gettin sweeped. We got beat, o well, Im still not so sure the better team won, but i guess that doesnt matter anymore. I cant help that the refs , (and bill walton) are in love w/ the Nets. But i can say that Detroit's future looks beyond great...with darko and all our young players. Something you cant say qwickshot about ur sixers, you guys cant keep a coach... Throw it down Darko...Throw it doooowwwwn!!!

[The Afoci]

Yeah, I noticed that Bill Waltons Defense really hurt the pistons ability to score. Damn Bill Walton.

[cmp]

vtbub, show me where I was whining about being disrespected in this thread? I don't believe I was. I was a little angry about the refs not showing some consistency in their calls but admitted Detroit blew the leads and the refs didn't in games 1 and 2.

And whoever said I'm not happy about how far Detroit went. I'm extremely happy with the way Detroit played this season. 50 wins, a Central title, and an Eastern Conference Finals appearance is very encouraging, especially when we have the #2 pick in the draft coming up.

[mrbuttercup]

people on this board like to put words in ur mouth gold, its ok! PISTONS NBA CHAMPS 2004

[vtbub]

why do you care so much that not everyone agrees with you.

[cmp]

Originally posted by vtbub
why do you care so much that not everyone agrees with you.

What are you talking about now?

[EagleFan]

Like I said before, the sweep has nothing to do with it. If you want to call atention to yourself by acting like a moron and whining that you have to deal with the consequences.

There wasn't one thread started on the board whining about the Sixers not getting any respect, or whining about them not getting a call. They lost, so what. It's a freakin' game played by people with more money than most, if not all, of us will ever see. This means what to your life?

[Schmidty]

Originally posted by EagleFan
Like I said before, the sweep has nothing to do with it. If you want to call atention to yourself by acting like a moron and whining that you have to deal with the consequences.

There wasn't one thread started on the board whining about the Sixers not getting any respect, or whining about them not getting a call. They lost, so what. It's a freakin' game played by people with more money than most, if not all, of us will ever see. This means what to your life?

You would do well to specify to whom you are addressing with your comments.

I've said my piece. You refuse to respond to what I have said. I suppose it's much easier to argue with a dimiwit, and ignore people with actual points. I understand. Sometimes we all take the easy way out.

[vtbub]

As stated earlier, the starter of this thread.