NFL Draft thread-2018

[Thomkal]

Thought it would be good to have all the draft reaction in one thread.

I have no idea what my beloved Cardinals are going to do tonight. They have not drafted a QB in the first round since Matt Leinart in 2006. They got out manuevered in last year's draft with DeShaun Watson and Pat Mahomes. Seen a couple analysts say the Cards have been the "busiest" when it comes to trying to make a trade in the 1st round tonight. They didn't resign any of their speedy young receivers in the off-season, letting them walk. They seem to think that Sam Bradford and Matt Glennon will be enough for them this season. So I think this is leading me to think they will go WR or CB tonight, and pray that a quality QB prospect will still be there in the 2nd round.

[Butter]

So I think this is leading me to think they will go WR or CB tonight, and pray that a quality QB prospect will still be there in the 2nd round.

They won't.

[albionmoonlight]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Let's out this kid as a racist so WE CAN DRAFT HIM&quot; is the most NFL thing possibly ever. <a href="https://t.co/7qoCJcYOJn">https://t.co/7qoCJcYOJn</a></p>&mdash; Ben Natan (@TheBenNatan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBenNatan/status/989508510852534272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[MrBug708]

Is the problem the lyrics in hip hop/rap or white people quoting song lyrics?

[albionmoonlight]

The immediate problem is if some team timed this leak in order to cause him to drop so that they could draft him without trading up. They are attacking his reputation and possibly costing him millions.

[weegeebored]

Maybe that's true, but he should be penalized for his social media stupidity.

[NobodyHere]

So Colt GM Chris Ballard has said that there are eight premium non QBs in this league. I have to imagine that's an open invitation to a team like Buffalo to trade up.

[CU Tiger]

The immediate problem is if some team timed this leak in order to cause him to drop so that they could draft him without trading up. They are attacking his reputation and possibly costing him millions.


I mean yea...but they could have just released his game film for the same effect.

[Arles]

Thought it would be good to have all the draft reaction in one thread.

I have no idea what my beloved Cardinals are going to do tonight. They have not drafted a QB in the first round since Matt Leinart in 2006. They got out manuevered in last year's draft with DeShaun Watson and Pat Mahomes. Seen a couple analysts say the Cards have been the "busiest" when it comes to trying to make a trade in the 1st round tonight. They didn't resign any of their speedy young receivers in the off-season, letting them walk. They seem to think that Sam Bradford and Matt Glennon will be enough for them this season. So I think this is leading me to think they will go WR or CB tonight, and pray that a quality QB prospect will still be there in the 2nd round.
I think there's a chance either Rosen or Allen will fall to 15. For Green Bay, I hope one of these situations happens:

1. One of Minkah Fitzpatrick, Tremaine Edmunds, Denzel Ward or Derwin James slips to 14.

2. All the big D guys get taken, but either Rosen or Allen slips to 14. GB convinces a QB-hungry team to panic and get ahead of Arizona for a nice bounty of picks to trade down.

[rjolley]

If Nelson isn't available for the Bears at 8, I hope they find a sucker, I mean partner, to trade back and acquire some picks. Buffalo would be great. Picking up the #12 and #22 or #12 and some of the second and third round picks would work well.

[Arles]

Dorsey is from the Ted Thompson school of no leaks and keeping things close to the vest in Green Bay leading up to the draft. Cleveland is notorious for leaking info. What if Dorsey told Hue one guy and his owner another - then waited to see who got leaked? There's really no damage for a leak given they pick 1 - but it would be a good way for him to see the leaky spot in the boat.

[NobodyHere]

As long as Dorsey isn't asking homeless people who he should draft then he should be an improvement on his predecessors.

[stevew]

Mayfield going 1 would be the most Browns thing.

[stevew]

wow lolololololololololol

[Thomkal]

Mayfield going 1 would be the most Browns thing.

And so it is

[EagleFan]

Lolololololol

[tarcone]

I like Mayfield. Big time player

[EagleFan]

Going to hate seeing Barkley in a Giants uniform.

[tarcone]

You dont think they go QB?

[tarcone]

Allen? Give him a year or 2 to develop behind manning

[EagleFan]

I like Mayfield. Big time douchebag

Fixed it for ya...

[tarcone]

Nevermind

[tarcone]

Fixed it for ya...

True, but when is swagger a bad thing. Look at all the studs that came out of the thug Hurricane teams.

[EagleFan]

Darnold to Jets?

[EagleFan]

Chubb to Browns?

[tarcone]

quit reading twitter

[EagleFan]

quit reading twitter

?

[tarcone]

I was listening to ESPN radio this morning and they were complaining of guys reporting picks on twitter before they announced on TV

[sabotai]

It might not be the best value or the right pick, but it's hopefully going to be fun to watch the Giants offense over the next few years. OBJ, Engram, Shepard and Barkley. I'm crossing my fingers that Pat Shurmur knows how to plan with that talent and at least make Giants offense fun to watch again.

[EagleFan]

I was listening to ESPN radio this morning and they were complaining of guys reporting picks on twitter before they announced on TV

No Twitter. Last two just guesses. Had the Barkley comment typed in and ready in case they picked him.

[EagleFan]

Wow, surprised on that Browns one.

[MrBug708]

Wut?

[stevew]

How do you not pair Chubb with Garrett? What the fuck are the Browns doing?

[EagleFan]

Do the Broncos go Chubb or a QB?

[EagleFan]

Gotta think the Saints would scoop Chubb up in a heartbeat if the Broncos don't.

[Shkspr]

How do you not pair Chubb with Garrett? What the fuck are the Browns doing?

We're actually probably lucky they didn't draft Mayfield AND Rosen to create competition in camp.

[Arles]

Broncos with Miller and Chubb would be sick

[Thomkal]

wow first surprise of the draft there with Cle

[EagleFan]

Scary defensive front there.

[tarcone]

Defense wins championships

[sabotai]

Got out of the top 5 with just 2 QBs taken. The next several teams don't need QBs. Rosen and Allen will fall, and Allen, after all of the hype (and anti-hype reaction), might even fall out of the first round.

[tarcone]

Pats take allen if he is still there

[tarcone]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Chief Rum]

Browns being Browns. Of course.

[bulletsponge]

Bills trading up to draft their annual 1st round QB bust

[stevew]

Bills move up for a QB

[NobodyHere]

I really didn't think pick 7 would be the first trade, although I did laugh at some of suggestions on how much the Bills would give up to get a QB.

[Shkspr]

Looks like the racist tweets sealed the deal for Buffalo.

[MrBug708]

Rosen going to Miami?

[tarcone]

Allen didnt impress me. Iowa took him apart. I know he didnt have much around him, but does Buffalo?

[NobodyHere]

Well as a Colt's fan I can't really be disappointed. They got a top 3 guy who can protect Andrew Luck and they picked up 3 extra 2nd rounds picks also.

[rjolley]

Damn, the Bucs stole the Bears' trade...

[MrBug708]

Niners took the Raiders pick, so they traded out

[tarcone]

Terrible draft hats

[Thomkal]

Well I think there would have been a mutiny if the Cards didn't trade up for a QB. Given Rosen's injury history, I might have preferred Jackson over him, but breathing a big sigh of relief here that they might have finally got a franchise QB.

[Chief Rum]

Well I think there would have been a mutiny if the Cards didn't trade up for a QB. Given Rosen's injury history, I might have preferred Jackson over him, but breathing a big sigh of relief here that they might have finally got a franchise QB.

As a UCLA fan, I am of course biased. But I have also watched Rosen play a ton for three years. And he is the real deal. If you can keep him on his feet (as durability is definitely an issue), then I think in five years everyone will be wondering how in the hell the best QB in this draft fell to #10 and behind three other QBs. The only one of the others whom I think will be in the same ballpark is Darnold. Rosen's intelligence, ability to make all the throws and tight window accuracy are going to make him an elite QB--if he stays healthy.

As a Rams fan, I'm annoyed he ended up with the Cards.

[Thomkal]

As a UCLA fan, I am of course biased. But I have also watched Rosen play a ton for three years. And he is the real deal. If you can keep him on his feet (as durability is definitely an issue), then I think in five years everyone will be wondering how in the hell the best QB in this draft fell to #10 and behind three other QBs. The only one of the others whom I think will be in the same ballpark is Darnold. Rosen's intelligence, ability to make all the throws and tight window accuracy are going to make him an elite QB--if he stays healthy.

As a Rams fan, I'm annoyed he ended up with the Cards.

Yeah given the Cards injury history at QB over the past few seasons, it seems incredibly risky to take a QB with an already existing injury history. But I hope you are right and he annoys Rams fans for years to come :)

[NobodyHere]

Green Bay has me intrigued...

[NobodyHere]

So how far does Lamar Jackson fall?

[tarcone]

Im waiting for Josh Jackson

[Thomkal]

Steelers trade Martavius (sp?) Bryant to Oakland for a third round pick.

[SackAttack]

so...did Green Bay essentially trade a current 3rd and 6th to move back 4 spots and pick up a current 5th and a future 1st?

I'm lost here.

[Thomkal]

So how far does Lamar Jackson fall?
New England?

[Thomkal]

Cardinals wax poetic over their pic:

Arizona Cardinals‏Verified account @AZCardinals (https://twitter.com/AZCardinals)









Rosen will wear red He used to rock blue Those that wanted us to take <s>@</s>Josh3Rosen (https://twitter.com/josh3rosen) Your dreams have come true.

[stevew]

Steelers trade Martavius (sp?) Bryant to Oakland for a third round pick.

Good luck keeping him out of the dispensary.

[Atocep]

Um, a Center 20th overall?

[tarcone]

a run on centers

[BishopMVP]

New England?I think Lauletta or Woodside later is more likely, but I'd love if Bill went for Jackson with a late 1st.

[MrBug708]

No WR's yet?

[Arles]

so...did Green Bay essentially trade a current 3rd and 6th to move back 4 spots and pick up a current 5th and a future 1st?

I'm lost here.
That’s right, nice move for the first year GM. Especially if you believe they wanted Alexander all along. Given he was the best CB at 14 (their biggest need), that makes sense. Homerun move for GB

[sabotai]

GB originally traded down (#14 to #27) with the Saints, picking up their 2019 1st round pick and a late round pick this year.

Then they traded back up to #18, giving their 3rd and 6th round picks this year to Seattle.

I think Sack was confused, thinking it was just one trade instead of two?

[SackAttack]

GB originally traded down (#14 to #27) with the Saints, picking up their 2019 1st round pick and a late round pick this year.

Then they traded back up to #18, giving their 3rd and 6th round picks this year to Seattle.

I think Sack was confused, thinking it was just one trade instead of two?

No, I knew it was two trades, but I was trying to suss out what the final picture was after the dust cleared.

#14 for #27 and a 5th this year, #27, a 3rd, and a 6th this year for #18 this year, if I'm reading it right; that means they essentially traded #14, a current 3rd, and a current 6th for #18, a future 1st, and a current 5th.

Again, if I'm reading it right. If I'm not, then yes, I AM confused.

[Edward64]

As a UCLA fan, I am of course biased. But I have also watched Rosen play a ton for three years. And he is the real deal. If you can keep him on his feet (as durability is definitely an issue), then I think in five years everyone will be wondering how in the hell the best QB in this draft fell to #10 and behind three other QBs. The only one of the others whom I think will be in the same ballpark is Darnold. Rosen's intelligence, ability to make all the throws and tight window accuracy are going to make him an elite QB--if he stays healthy.

Maturity level isn't quite all there yet.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/26/josh-rosen-arizona-cardinals-nfl-draft-nine-mistakes-ahead-me
Josh Rosen isn't too happy about being selected as the No. 10 overall pick in the NFL draft.
:
When interviewed during the draft, Rosen told reporters "There were nine mistakes ahead of me."
:
It was speculated on Thursday afternoon that the Jets might take Rosen over Darnold with the third pick.

Rosen also said during draft night, "I was pretty pissed off that I fell."

[Logan]

Don't think anyone cares, but I want a record of this to come back to. My personal rankings of the big QBs in this draft, in terms of how I expect their careers will go:

1. Rosen
2. Darnold
3. Jackson
4. Mayfield
5. Allen

Plan on updating it as necessary once the selections are made to see if team/fit changes things for me.

Pulling this over from the draft thread...I actually pretty much hate where each of these guys ended up. I think I'd swap Mayfield and Jackson at this point as I don't know if Flacco is the right guy for Jackson to learn from.

[albionmoonlight]

As a FOF player, I am very nervous that the Saints traded a future first rounder.

One injury to Brees, and that becomes a top-10 pick easily.

But I guess if you want a pass rusher, you need to pay through the nose to get him.

[jbergey22]

I wonder if it even crossed the Browns minds that if they take Barkley #1 they still could get one of the 3 elite QBs available(probably Mayfield). They just seem to do everything to dumbest way possible. If they didnt want Barkley they should have traded the #1 overall pick for a truckload and drafted their QB at #4. Personally, I would have traded the #1 overall for a truckload. I dont feel any running back is worth the #1 overall in todays NFL.

Teams will just never learn to stop forcing QBs. It rarely works out. Just draft the best available every year and you will eventually land a decent QB that can win with a solid team around him already.

[JonInMiddleGA]

If they didnt want Barkley they should have traded the #1 overall pick for a truckload and drafted their QB at #4.

Question is, perhaps, whether there was a proverbial truckload to get for the spot?

I mean, as it worked out, how many teams didn't end up getting what they wanted and would have been willing to go #1 overall for someone?

[Chief Rum]

Maturity level isn't quite all there yet.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/26/josh-rosen-arizona-cardinals-nfl-draft-nine-mistakes-ahead-me

Actually that just means you don't know who Josh Rosen is. That's very much a Rosen thing to say. He's confident and he was raised to speak his mind. So when his talent put him in front of microphones, it quickly became clear you will always know exactly what Rosen thinks of something.

He's good, he knows it and he doesn't do the BS the media stuff. It's pretty much the reason why Mora tried to keep him away from interviews. He knew Josh has no filter.

[jbergey22]

Question is, perhaps, whether there was a proverbial truckload to get for the spot?

I mean, as it worked out, how many teams didn't end up getting what they wanted and would have been willing to go #1 overall for someone?

Fair question. I just assumed with how teams seem to give up so much for QBs and numerous teams looking for QBs this year. Possibly the Bills or Cards might have been able to put together a nice package.

[MrBug708]

Maturity level isn't quite all there yet.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/26/josh-rosen-arizona-cardinals-nfl-draft-nine-mistakes-ahead-me

Mojo Drew picked the number 32 because he felt all 32 teams missed the boat by passing on him. Rosen has never been quiet about his skills. It might be arrogant, but it's not a maturity issue with that quote. I really wanted that fakesportscenter quote to be true tho

[Butter]

He's good, he knows it and he doesn't do the BS the media stuff.

Yeah, he's not that good. None of this year's QBs will be a star. At best we're talking serviceable backups.

[Chief Rum]

Yeah, he's not that good. None of this year's QBs will be a star. At best we're talking serviceable backups.

Opinions vary.

[MrBug708]

Yeah, he's not that good. None of this year's QBs will be a star. At best we're talking serviceable backups.

Doubtful

[AlexB]

I wonder if it even crossed the Browns minds that if they take Barkley #1 they still could get one of the 3 elite QBs available(probably Mayfield). They just seem to do everything to dumbest way possible. If they didnt want Barkley they should have traded the #1 overall pick for a truckload and drafted their QB at #4. Personally, I would have traded the #1 overall for a truckload. I dont feel any running back is worth the #1 overall in todays NFL.

Teams will just never learn to stop forcing QBs. It rarely works out. Just draft the best available every year and you will eventually land a decent QB that can win with a solid team around him already.

Potentially they wanted Penny, but he went to Seattle.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Browns LOVED Penny. Would have probably taken him at 33. But now he’s a Seahawk.</p>&mdash; Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/989702462599659521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kodos]

Can I just say that the NFL Network draft crew is much more enjoyable than the ESPN crew.

[CU Tiger]

Actually that just means you don't know who Josh Rosen is. That's very much a Rosen thing to say. He's confident and he was raised to speak his mind. So when his talent put him in front of microphones, it quickly became clear you will always know exactly what Rosen thinks of something.

He's good, he knows it and he doesn't do the BS the media stuff. It's pretty much the reason why Mora tried to keep him away from interviews. He knew Josh has no filter.

So he was taught to put his own interest before others. To draw undesired attention to his teammates, employers, and fans. He is self centered and hasnt yet learned the ability to delay personal gratification in exchange for the greater good.

Or...in other words...he is immature.

[MrBug708]

So he was taught to put his own interest before others. To draw undesired attention to his teammates, employers, and fans. He is self centered and hasnt yet learned the ability to delay personal gratification in exchange for the greater good.

Or...in other words...he is immature.

Well, other than when spoke out against amateurish and NCAA hypocracy

Great article on Rosen and his quote

Josh Rosen says NFL teams made 'nine mistakes' by passing on him in draft (http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-sp-nfl-draft-plasckhe-20180426-story.html#nt=oft-Single%20Chain~Feed-Driven%20Flex%20Feature~~sub-topic-feed-0~230~1~yes-art~automated~automatedpage)

[CU Tiger]

Well, other than when spoke out against amateurish and NCAA hypocracy



Or... especially then. He's a QB of course he'd get attention and wants to be paid.

What about the 3rd string Guard who is damn happy to be getting a free $200k education.

Again he didnt think about anyone but himself.

I know you are a fan, I get it. I dislike him and I am sure you get that.
We will never convince the other to change.

I just want him to name those 9 teams who made mistakes. (hint its 8 Cleveland picked twice. And by his statement he is saying he is a better QB than Luck, Manning and Garropolo and Trebisky)...

Its one thing to believe in proving them wrong its another to put foot in mouth.

[cuervo72]

So he was taught to put his own interest before others. To draw undesired attention to his teammates, employers, and fans. He is self centered and hasnt yet learned the ability to delay personal gratification in exchange for the greater good.

Or...in other words...he is immature.

Trump thread is thataway ------------->

[digamma]

I just want him to name those 9 teams who made mistakes. (hint its 8 Cleveland picked twice. And by his statement he is saying he is a better QB than Luck, Manning and Garropolo and Trebisky)...

Its one thing to believe in proving them wrong its another to put foot in mouth.

Only a minor quibble here, as I generally agree with the bad tude take, but he said there were 9 mistakes, not that 9 teams made mistakes. I took that as saying that each pick or player take in front of him was a mistake.

[MrBug708]

Or... especially then. He's a QB of course he'd get attention and wants to be paid.

What about the 3rd string Guard who is damn happy to be getting a free $200k education.

Again he didnt think about anyone but himself.

I know you are a fan, I get it. I dislike him and I am sure you get that.
We will never convince the other to change.

I just want him to name those 9 teams who made mistakes. (hint its 8 Cleveland picked twice. And by his statement he is saying he is a better QB than Luck, Manning and Garropolo and Trebisky)...

Its one thing to believe in proving them wrong its another to put foot in mouth.

The third strong guard especially. Rosen didn't care about getting paid himself. That was the point of his comments, he disn t need to get paid, his teammates did.

Or he could just keep his mouth shut and maybe just beat on his wife, or carry a gun into a club, or maybe do tons of steroids the NFLfans would love him.

[albionmoonlight]

I think that Rosen will be the best QB in the class.

[bhlloy]

Jets has to be about the worst case scenario for Darnold. While he'll probably get most of a redshirt year with McCown and Bridgewater there already, that fanbase is crazy, it's New York and there will be ghosts of Sanchez every time he makes a bad play. Plus there's always the scenario that Bridgewater looks like he did before the injury and you have insta-QB controversy to deal with for the next few years.

[bhlloy]

DOLA - going to be interesting to watch Rosen if Bradford can stay healthy as well. Obviously that's one of the biggest "if's" in the entire league, but Rosen was the one guy in the class whose best scenario probably involved him starting right away. Buffalo would have probably been the best fit there on a team that wasn't terrible too long ago.

[Logan]

Jets has to be about the worst case scenario for Darnold. While he'll probably get most of a redshirt year with McCown and Bridgewater there already, that fanbase is crazy, it's New York and there will be ghosts of Sanchez every time he makes a bad play. Plus there's always the scenario that Bridgewater looks like he did before the injury and you have insta-QB controversy to deal with for the next few years.

Granted I'm not a Jets fan but my read on it from knowing some is that they are pretty optimistic about him. And they aren't really making the USC connection. I think most Jets fans were going into the season hoping to get him, as the preseason #1 type. And re: Sanchez, they didn't really have a huge problem with him as much as the devotion to him by Ryan that they couldn't handle.

[Logan]

Gotta hand it to The Ringer for its biting draft coverage. When grading the "fit" of each pick, they managed to hand out 19 A+s and 9 more As by my count.

[cuervo72]

I thought this was an entertaining read.

NFL Draft 2018: Round 1 Grades for Every Pick | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2772466-nfl-draft-2018-round-1-grades-for-every-pick)

[NobodyHere]

I thought this was an entertaining read.

NFL Draft 2018: Round 1 Grades for Every Pick | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2772466-nfl-draft-2018-round-1-grades-for-every-pick)

Loved the Quenton Nelson write-up

[NobodyHere]

Potentially they wanted Penny, but he went to Seattle.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Browns LOVED Penny. Would have probably taken him at 33. But now he’s a Seahawk.</p>&mdash; Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/989702462599659521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You'd think that the idea that the Browns want a player would be a huuuuuge red flag at this point.

[BYU 14]

I thought this was an entertaining read.

NFL Draft 2018: Round 1 Grades for Every Pick | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2772466-nfl-draft-2018-round-1-grades-for-every-pick)

Well, they agree with my QB comparisons. Almost word for word on Mayfield and Allen :)

[NobodyHere]

I did not think the Colts would grab another guard so soon.

[sabotai]

Loved the Giants picking up Hernandez. The OL is coming together and the Giants might actually have a decent offensive line for the first time since their last SB run.

[Shkspr]

Nate Burleson doing a bangup job of convincing the white guys that run the NFL to stop the Round 2 guest star tradition.

[NobodyHere]

Nate Burleson doing a bangup job of convincing the white guys that run the NFL to stop the Round 2 guest star tradition.

David Akers just showed us how trolling is done.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Only a minor quibble here, as I generally agree with the bad tude take, but he said there were 9 mistakes, not that 9 teams made mistakes. I took that as saying that each pick or player take in front of him was a mistake.

He later walked that back to just "three" (meaning the three QBs).

He's a true p.o.s., that was known well before draft night.
He is who we anyone paying attention knew he was.

He'll fit right into the NFL.

[NobodyHere]

I'm kind of underwhelmed by the the Colts 2nd round haul. I hope Ballard knows what he's doing.

[PilotMan]

Another knock to the Bengals to see the Steelers trade up over both of your picks and only your picks to snag a QB that you were almost guaranteed to see picked by Cincy.

That's gonna leave a very sour taste in Bengal mouths.

[BishopMVP]

Glad the Steelers took Rudolph. He's the one QB other than Allen who really didn't impress me when I watched college games. Zero pocket mobility, threw up a lot of contested balls and relied on WR's to win battles.

Good value for Patriots on Day 2, even if it's not too sexy. Getting a 4th + the Bears 2nd next year is classic Patriots, and as long as Brown can get his weight in check a great (and cheap) pass blocking tackle is better value for 2018 than any 3rd rounder would be.

[JPhillips]

Another knock to the Bengals to see the Steelers trade up over both of your picks and only your picks to snag a QB that you were almost guaranteed to see picked by Cincy.

That's gonna leave a very sour taste in Bengal mouths.

Nah. A backup QB isn't something we care much about. I'm much happier with Hubbard and Jefferson.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Shouldn't Guice have had an agent (or somebody) making sure he showed up for meetings on time?

[JPhillips]

I feel for Maurice Hurst. He's a first round, maybe top ten talent, but who knows if he'll even get drafted due to his heart issue. He's lost generational wealth.

[stevew]

Rudolph seems like a decent value in the mid third. If/when he flames out it only came at the cost of one season of Bryant.

[NobodyHere]

Looks like Cleveland has a winner

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sheesh. You'd expect a better throw from the 1st pick of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a>.... <a href="https://t.co/73GmtbmFp1">pic.twitter.com/73GmtbmFp1</a></p>&mdash; Cut4 (@Cut4) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/990010451546304513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Thomkal]

Rams trade WR Tavon Austin to Dallas for a 6th round pick.

[weegeebored]

Normally I would be tearing Ryan Pace a new one about now based on draft history, but he had a really smart draft this year. There's hope for Bears Nation.

[NobodyHere]

Nice to see Logan Woodside get drafted, even if it is by the Bengals.

[Atocep]

Loved the first half of the Bears draft. Liked the back half.

The drafts that stood out to me positively were the Giants, Pats, and Broncos.

Not sure what the hell Indy, Buffalo, and Seattle are doing.

[BishopMVP]

Loved the first half of the Bears draft. Liked the back half.

The drafts that stood out to me positively were the Giants, Pats, and Broncos.

Not sure what the hell Indy, Buffalo, and Seattle are doing.Really liked the Round 1 moves - not sure if Wynn fits the tackle archetype, but he seems like a very good and versatile OL. Sony Michel wasn't a position of need, but it you think he isn't an injury risk (or don't care if he is a long term one since he likely won't be kept past his rookie scale deal...) then getting a RB who is comfortable splitting out wide and has his gamebreaking ability is great. Trading for a starting quality player and picking up future picks is always good value, and we all should have seen Braxton Berrios to the Patriots coming!

But past that it left some to be desired. Not so much the QB thing - though I would've like Lauletta in the 4th, I don't think trading up in the 1st for one would have been smart, and if they didn't think another one was a better fit than Etling, fine. But defensively we still needed to get younger, better and faster in the back 7, and is Dawson a really good slot corner, or is he another DB reach that doesn't pan out for us or gets beaten out for a spot by the 7th rounder? Likewise there aren't a lot of complete LB's out there outside the 1st round, but it sure seems those 2 both fit the "run-stuffer who can't cover" and "cover guy who can't set the edge" profiles that end up leading to huge holes in our scheme against the right gameplan.

[NobodyHere]

Loved the first half of the Bears draft. Liked the back half.

The drafts that stood out to me positively were the Giants, Pats, and Broncos.

Not sure what the hell Indy, Buffalo, and Seattle are doing.

Indy is trying to create competition in the trenches. If their picks work out right then their OL will actually be a strength rather than a weakness. If the D-Line picks pan out then there should be plenty of competition for the new scheme and maybe they'll have someone to rush the QB. The WRs and RBs drafted should be playthings for the new HC and hopefully there should be a new WR2.

There's definitely a plan in Indy but we'll see how it works out.

[Galaril]

Loved the first half of the Bears draft. Liked the back half.

The drafts that stood out to me positively were the Giants, Pats, and Broncos.

Not sure what the hell Indy, Buffalo, and Seattle are doing.

Yes, every sports taking head in town is rating this Elways first good to great draft. He did not reach for guys much if at all, drafted players that were known for effort, hard work students of the game and have an enthusiasm for the game with no offfield issues. That was not the case in years past. I would have liked if they traded down to get more picks in the 1st and 2nd round but they kind of had to grab Bradley Chubb. They also signed the Holland kid from Auburn so even if they lose Shaq Barret they are set at Edge for a while.
Was disappointed they did not address the online or cornerback much. I guess that will have to wait till next offseason/draft. Keenum better get rid of the ball fast in 2018 or he I still going to get killed with this line again. Good news they got hm some weapons to take some pressure off.

[Julio Riddols]

Woodside is a poor mans Andy Dalton, I love the pick for Cincy. He has a long career ahead of him IMO. Seems like a guy who defies expectations and overachieves despite average measurables.

[NobodyHere]

Woodside is a poor mans Andy Dalton, I love the pick for Cincy. He has a long career ahead of him IMO. Seems like a guy who defies expectations and overachieves despite average measurables.

Definitely an underdog to root for!

[stevew]

Indy did a good job of scoring protection for Jacoby Brisett

[NobodyHere]

Indy did a good job of scoring protection for Jacoby Brisett

We signed JT Barret too!

[albionmoonlight]

I think that Rosen will be the best QB in the class.

Nice.

[MIJB#19]

Nice.
<table><tr><td>pick<td>player<td>team then<td>projected role 2020
<tr><td>1 (R1)<td>Mayfield<td>Browns<td>Browns starter
<tr><td>3 (R1)<td>Darnold<td>Jets<td>Jets starter
<tr><td>7 (R1)<td>Allen<td>Bills<td>Bills starter
<tr><td>10 (R1)<td>Rosen<td>Cardinals<td>Dolphins 3rd string
<tr><td>32 (R1)<td>Jackson<td>Ravens<td>Ravens starter
<tr><td>76 (R3)<td>Rudolph<td>Steelers<td>Steelers backup
<tr><td>108 (R4)<td>Lauletta<td>Giants<td>Falcons 4th string
<tr><td>171 (R5)<td>White<td>Cowboys<td>Jets 5th string
<tr><td>199 (R6)<td>Falk<td>Titans<td>FA (cut by Jets dec'19)
<tr><td>203 (R6)<td>Lee<td>Jaguars<td>FA (cut by Jaguars aug'19)
<tr><td>219 (R7)<td>Etling<td>Patriots<td>Seahawks 4th string
<tr><td>220 (R7)<td>McGough<td>Seahawks<td>FA (cut by Texans aug'20)
<tr><td>249 (R7)<td>Woodside<td>Bengals<td>Titans backup</table>

[Thomkal]

Leave it to my beloved Cards to draft the bust of the 1st round.

[JPhillips]

I'm pretty confident Jackson is the only one of the first round picks that has a shot at a Super Bowl with their current organization.

[cuervo72]

Nice.

Still probably came out better than CR, though.

[stevew]

I'm pretty confident Jackson is the only one of the first round picks that has a shot at a Super Bowl with their current organization.

eh, i could see buffalo winning within 5-7 years perhaps. They're pretty good. Maybe they finally get past NE and get homefield and a well timed blizzard.

[miami_fan]

I have not done this in awhile but the Baker conversation caused me to go back and take a look. Most of the first year contract have been completed unless the player is on the fifth year option. So how did your team do? I am only going to post the 1st round but if your team was able to find a pretty good player with the 199th pick overall, you can give them credit for that too.

Link to the draft listing with career stats.

2018 NFL Draft Listing | Pro-Football-Reference.com (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/draft.htm)


Round 1

1. Cleveland Browns: QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma

2. New York Giants: RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State

3. New York Jets: QB Sam Darnold, USC

4. Cleveland Browns: CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State

5. Denver Broncos: DE Bradley Chubb, NC State

6. Indianapolis Colts: OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame

7. Buffalo Bills: QB Josh Allen, Wyoming

8. Chicago Bears: LB Roquan Smith, Georgia

9. San Francisco 49ers: OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame

10. Arizona Cardinals: QB Josh Rosen, UCLA

11. Miami Dolphins: DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: DT Vita Vea, Washington

13. Washington: DT Da’Ron Payne, Alabama

14. New Orleans Saints: DE Marcus Davenport, UTSA

15. Oakland Raiders: OT Kolton Miller, UCLA

16. Buffalo Bills: LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech

17. Los Angeles Chargers: DB Derwin James, Florida State

18. Green Bay Packers: CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville

19. Dallas Cowboys: LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

20. Detroit Lions: C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas

21. Cincinnati Bengals: C Billy Price, Ohio State

22. Tennessee Titans: LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama

23. New England Patriots: OT Isaiah Wynn, Georgia

24. Carolina Panthers: WR D.J. Moore, Maryland

25. Baltimore Ravens: TE Hayden Hurst, South Carolina

26. Atlanta Falcons: WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama

27. Seattle Seahawks: RB Rashaad Penny, San Diego State

28. Pittsburgh Steelers: S Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech

29. Jacksonville Jaguars: DT Taven Bryan, Florida

30. Minnesota Vikings: CB Mike Hughes, UCF

31. New England Patriots: RB Sony Michel, Georgia

32. Baltimore Ravens: QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville

[Thomkal]

Ah the talented Josh Rosen draft, I remember it well

[QuikSand]

Wow, what a storyline-laden draft.

4. Cleveland Browns: CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State

5. Denver Broncos: DE Bradley Chubb, NC State

I remember pretty clearly that Chubb was the fairly strong consensus top non-QB player in this draft, with everyone understanding that NYG were taking RB Barkley at 2. Browns had just taken DE Garrett with the top pick, and pairing him with Chubb seemed horrifying... but they reached a bit and took CB Ward (from Ohio State, not to be overlooked).

I think in retrospect, it has panned out well. Ward is seen as a top-15 CB in the leaque, and is going to get a fat new contract. (Sullied only by Jaire Alexander being a later pick in this same draft, and by consensus a better player) But Chubb is (I'd say) still in-progress, and while not a complete bust, he got his 5th year picked up but is not a likely candidate for a huge second contract as a top-tier guy.

[albionmoonlight]

I remember watching this draft with my Panthers fan buddy. And when the Saints traded up to 14, he was so mad b/c it was clear that the Saints were going to grab Lamar. Then, when they instead grabbed a DE with single-digit sacks from UT San Antonio he flat out belly laughed in my face.

Lamar has become Lamar. And Davenport is a very talented but always injured player.

31 teams had a chance to grab Lamar and didn't. And I suspect most fanbases regret it in hindsight. But I will say that it isn't just hindsight with the Saints. I distinctly remember being totally convinced that the Saints were going to grab him--and being super psyched by the possibility.

[MIJB#19]

<table><tr><td>pick<td>player<td>team then<td>projected role 2020</table>
<table><tr><td>pick<td>player<td>team then<td>start NFL off-season 2022
<tr><td>1 (R1)<td>Mayfield<td>Browns<td>Browns backup
<tr><td>3 (R1)<td>Darnold<td>Jets<td>Panthers backup
<tr><td>7 (R1)<td>Allen<td>Bills<td>Bills starter
<tr><td>10 (R1)<td>Rosen<td>Cardinals<td>Falcons 3rd string
<tr><td>32 (R1)<td>Jackson<td>Ravens<td>Ravens starter
<tr><td>76 (R3)<td>Rudolph<td>Steelers<td>Steelers backup
<tr><td>108 (R4)<td>Lauletta<td>Giants<td>USFL Pittsburgh Maulers
<tr><td>171 (R5)<td>White<td>Cowboys<td>Jets 3rd string
<tr><td>199 (R6)<td>Falk<td>Titans<td>FA (cut by Jets oct'19)
<tr><td>203 (R6)<td>Lee<td>Jaguars<td>FA (cut by Jaguars aug'19)
<tr><td>219 (R7)<td>Etling<td>Patriots<td>Packers 4th string
<tr><td>220 (R7)<td>McGough<td>Seahawks<td>USFL Birmingham Stallions
<tr><td>249 (R7)<td>Woodside<td>Bengals<td>Titans backup</table>

[BishopMVP]

Let's see - Wynn has been a solid starter when healthy, but only healthy about half the time. Hurts a little seeing two very talented WR's picked right after him, though with Ridley's past 6 months that no longer looks like a huge miss. Many people tag Sony Michel as a bust and again it hurts to see a better back in Nick Chubb picked right after him, but he was fine and we don't win the Super Bowl that year without him as a power back. 2nd round pick was a complete bust, did get a solid situational LB in JaWhuan Bentley in the 5th, and the 3rd & 4th round picks were traded for Trent Brown & Eric Rowe who played big roles in winning the Super Bowl that season. Overall C- for the picks, B- once you include the trades?
I remember watching this draft with my Panthers fan buddy. And when the Saints traded up to 14, he was so mad b/c it was clear that the Saints were going to grab Lamar. Then, when they instead grabbed a DE with single-digit sacks from UT San Antonio he flat out belly laughed in my face.

Lamar has become Lamar. And Davenport is a very talented but always injured player.

31 teams had a chance to grab Lamar and didn't. And I suspect most fanbases regret it in hindsight. But I will say that it isn't just hindsight with the Saints. I distinctly remember being totally convinced that the Saints were going to grab him--and being super psyched by the possibility.
Looking this up I see places like the Globe etc mentioning we could've drafted Lamar Jackson instead of Sony Michel - and there was some chatter at the time - but I don't see how it would have worked. There was the somewhat fractured relationship between Brady & Belichick, but it wasn't so far gone they couldn't work together & win a title that year. If we had drafted a QB in the 1st instead of pieces that helped that team it may have blown up sooner, plus idk how you develop Lamar in practice if TB12 is still there.

Re: the Saints I'll always wonder how much Sean Payton really loved Taysom Hill. Is there any chance he passed on Lamar then not just because he still had Brees but also because he thought he could develop the "mobile quarterback" already on the roster?