2019 FOFC Alt Rules Fantasy FB league: Season to begin

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08/29/19

Draft complete! I will have it up on the website tomorrow for lineups.

08/19/19

Timed draft is underway!

08/17/19

Draft order posted!

Draft order:

laser 1
cmgdodgers 2
CleBrownsfan 3
DavidCorperial 4
Comey 5
Chief Rum 6
SirFozzie 7
claphamsa 8
Butter 9
clemsonfan 10

08/13/19

Right now, we are accepting sign-ups for the 14th season of this purely for bragging rights Fantasy League. Priority will be given to those who have been in before, but if you would like to join this year, please say so below. Typically we have 2-3 people not return, so usually plenty of slots for new owners.

If you would like to join for the upcoming season, details are below in Post #4. E-mails from Yahoo! have been sent to last year's owners. If you were in last year, your team has automatically been rejoined to the league.

If you are in the league from last year and do NOT plan on being in again, let me know so I can remove your team and free up the slot for a new owner.

Old members that are returning, please post that you are back in, and ALSO post a number between 1 and 10 that will be used to randomly assign our draft order.

If you are an old member and I do not hear from you by noon Eastern, Friday, August 16th, then your team will be removed from the league and we will give that team to a new member.

Draft scheduled to start via boards on 8/17.

Players - Team Name - Joined? - Draft #
claphamsa - unstopable - IN FOR 2019 - #5
DavidCorperial - Stamford Cyberams - IN FOR 2019 - #6
Chief Rum - Chief's Savages - IN FOR 2019 - #8
Comey - GentlyFletcheredCox - IN FOR 2019 - #9
laser - Florida Fusion - IN FOR 2019 - #10
CleBrownsfan - Dawg Pound - IN FOR 2019 - #1
cmgdodgers - Prestige Collection - IN FOR 2019 - #7
Butter - Dayton Dynamo - IN FOR 2019 - #3
clemsonfan - Greenville Tigers - IN FOR 2019 - #2


New players for 2019
SirFozzie - 4

Non-returning players from 2018
ntndeacon - Klein Bottles

[Butter]

Introduction

From our founding father, sterlingice:

The idea behind the FOFC Alternate Rules Football league is simple. We play with 2 QBs, playing PPR, and try to balance out all 3 of the major positions while still making the other 3 differentiated and yet valuable. In short, you need a good, balanced team across the board.

This league was started for a couple of reasons, most of which involve things I dislike about standard fantasy football leagues.

1) I absolutely hate the RB scrum that has stupidly started every fantasy football league since the dawn of time. RBs are one of the least valuable positions on the field (Butter's note:underlined for emphasis / prescience... I can't think of a position that has been more devalued in the last 5 years)

2) QBs are over pointed but over supplied. Most league starts 1 QB so in a 10 team league, the 11th most valuable QB is around equal to the 21st most valuable RB.

3) And to those who complain 2 QBs is not realistic, fantasy football is not about "realism". Where in the world are you going to see David Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott lining up in the backfield on any play? That QB might actually *die* on the field, but that fantasy lineup would rack up a lot of fantasy points. The only time fantasy lineups could be even considered remotely realistic were the couple of years that Mike Alstott was accidentally worth something as an honest-to-goodness fullback. So, please, don't tell me that your 1 QB, 2 RB league is more realistic than this 2 QB, 2 RB league unless you're drafting fullbacks.

4) Points seemed to be based on arbitrary measurements: "Hey, a TD is worth 6 so let's make it worth 6 fantasy points". Never mind that a good QB will get in the 30s while an elite RB might get half that. So, points are balanced across the board to try and give equal weight to every skill position: QBs, workhorse RBs, receiving RBs, deep thread WRs, possession WRs, etc.

So, in short, the idea is not to game the system but to pick the players that best exceed expectations. In short- are you better at predicting players than everyone else. Is it perfect? No. But I do believe it's better than what's out there.

Alternate Rules Football History

In the first season (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=41688), 2005, the Rafini Express steamrolled the rest of the league; led by Tomlinson, Palmer, Hasselbeck, and a solid receiving corps.

In 2006 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=51190), Eleven Masked Men won the regular season while 5 teams were at either 9-5 or 8-6 but only three made the playoffs. The #4 and #3 seeds won in the playoffs with the balanced Marino Gets a Title winning over the LT-led Houston Hippopotami.

For 2007 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=60329), there were 3 10-4 powers going into the playoffs with the Little Macs, Hawaii Haka, and Houston Hippopotami but it was the #4 seed Louisiana Cyclones who won the title after squeaking into the playoffs at 8-6.

In 2008, the league went on hiatus as sterlingice was moving cross country from Kansas City to Richmond. Guess what I'm looking to do yet again this year. *sigh*

2009 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=73999) brought back the league in all its former glory with a slow, live draft and some slight scoring tweaks (I think). k0ruptr's Hawaii Ha'a dominated the regular season at 11-3 with the most points scored and won in the playoffs with a balanced team led by Adrian Peterson. Qwikshot's Quivers were the only other double digit win team but they lost in the first round of the playoffs.

2010 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=79059) featured a quick, live draft as I ran out of time, having just moved to Indianapolis. Danny's Road Kill Cafe finished with the best record in the league, led by Peyton Manning and 2 RBs and 3 WRs with over 1000 yards and 6 TDs (McCoy, McFadden, Bowe, CJohnson, SMoss). He defeated #2 seed Royal Apes, led by the two headed QB monster of Vick and Rogers and RBs Jamaal Charles and Steven Jackson.

2011 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=82106) returned to the standard draft albeit a sped up 2 hour format that we'll use again this year. The 4 teams that made the playoffs were the only teams with winning records. SterlingIce's Indianapolis Iguanii knocked off Julio Riddols's Tasty Punts by 0.08 in one of the semifinals. But TRO's Royal Apes prevailed in the finals, led by a combination of known commodities (Rodgers, Gore, Gates) and big surprises (Newton, Gronkowski, Matthews).

2012 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=84722) also used the boards draft, with the same format as 2011. This league showcased 3 teams finishing the regular season at 10-4, and another 2 at 8-6. The playoffs found Subby's Housewives on Acid winning both legs of the Championship playoff rounds fairly handily, taking down the championship in his first year in the league.

2013 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=87408) was 3 years in a row with the slow, boards draft. This year found regular season 3rd and 4th place teams Psycho Bunnies (DannysWife) and Chief's Savages (CR) fighting it out in the title game, with Psycho Bunnies winning the final game by 8 points.

2014 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=89071) saw Eleven Masked Men hand Chief his 2nd straight Championship Game loss, despite being the #1 playoff seed.

2015 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=90598) featured Chief Rum making his 3rd straight Championship Game in a row, and winning this time over first year player DavidCorperial's Stamford Cyberams.

2016 (http://forums.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=3113275) saw first time owner laser and his Florida Fusion take down Chief's Savages, making it 4 Championship Games in a row for Chief, but 3 losses of the 4. While I finished in the top 4 for just the second time in league history. Yay?

2017 (https://forums.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=93244) saw Comey win for the first time by taking down CleBrownsfan's Dawg Pound in the Championship Game.

2018 (https://forums.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=95295) saw laser's Florida Fusion take his 2nd title in 3 years, by beating my wife's late replacement Greenville Tigers squad. Stamford Cyberams finished 3rd for a 3rd consecutive season. My wife beat my best league finish ever in her first season. Terrific, and not at all saddening.

Rules

I'll try to outline the major points below but any writeup will be somewhat incomplete. I've been trying to make sure and balance out the three main positions. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than what's out there, in my opinion:

* First thing you'll notice is 2 QBs- your 2nd and even 3rd QB does matter, just as much as your 2nd and 3rd RBs. No more mad scramble solely for RBs.

* There are 3 WRs and they are worth 8/1 versus 10/1 for RBs and 30/1 for QBs

* TE's are a bit better than in the past, but I would still love to be able to hit them with a 1.5 * mulitiplier across the board. As that's not possible, they fall in positional value. PPR helps them, tho. As I can't, that 2nd TE has become a TE/(4th)WR slot.

* There are kind of 2 tiers of players: QBs/RBs/WRs and Ks/DEFs/TEs. The first are worth more as they are believed to be more important. However, those second tiers are still worth about 2/3rds what the first group does, and good ones can offset a bad week by a top tier player.

* There's a lot of emphasis on positional scarcity- 2 of pretty much everything in a 10 team league means 20 QBs, 20 RBs, 20 Ks, and 20 DEFs will be starting each and every week which only leaves 10 in the pool at max. You only get 5 bench spaces so use them well- no hoarding that 4th K or even 3rd K if it means dropping that injured RB who's about to come back or that backup for your stud who you have as a 4th RB.

[Butter]

Scoring & Settings

In reviewing the scoring, am planning to leave it the same unless there are objections.

<table class="data" id="settings-table"> <thead> <tr> <th class="first">Setting</th> <th>Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_34"> <tr> <td>League ID#:</td> <td>683012</td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">League Name:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">FOFC Alternate Rules</td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Password:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">dola</td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Custom League URL:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">Sign in to Yahoo! (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/683012)</td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Draft Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Offline Draft </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410">10</td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Scoring Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Head-to-Head </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Start Scoring on:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 1 </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Can't Cut List Provider:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yahoo! Sports </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Acquisitions for Entire Season:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Acquisitions per Week:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Max Trades for Entire Season</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No maximum </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Reject Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 1 </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade End Date:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> November 9, 2019 </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Allow Draft Pick Trades:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Trade Review:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Commissioner </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Time:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> 2 days </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Waiver Type:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Continual rolling list </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Weekly Waivers</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Sunday - Tuesday </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Post Draft Players:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Follow Waiver Rules </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Invite Sharing Tools:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Enabled </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoffs:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Playoff Reseeding:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Divisions:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Lock Eliminated Teams:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_42" class="row2"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Roster Positions:</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_41" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, W/R/T, K, K, DEF, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_39" class="row1"> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Fractional Points:</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_38" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_37" class="row2"> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_36" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Negative Points:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> Yes </td> </tr> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_33" class="row1"> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_32" class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="120">Make League Publicly Viewable:</td> <td class="typeStandard" align="left" valign="top" width="410"> No </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

<table class="data" id="settings-stat-mod-table"><thead> <tr> <th class="first">Offense</th> <th>League Value</th> <th>Yahoo! Default Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_24"> <tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Passing Yards</td> <td>30 yards per point; 5 points at 300 yards</td> <td>25 yards per point</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Passing Touchdowns</td> <td>5</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Interceptions</td> <td>-1</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Rushing Yards</td> <td>10 yards per point; 5 points at 100 yards</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_23" class="row2"> <td class="first">Rushing Touchdowns</td> <td>6</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_22">
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_27" class="row1"> <td class="first">Receptions</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_28">1</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_26">0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_30" class="row2"> <td class="first">Reception Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_29">8 yards per point; 5 points at 100 yards</td> <td>10 yards per point</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Reception Touchdowns</td> <td>6</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">2-Point Conversions</td> <td>2</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Fumbles</td> <td>-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_91" class="row2"> <td class="first">Fumbles Lost</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_90">-1</td> <td>-2</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_89" class="row1"> <td class="first">Offensive Fumble Return TD</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_88">6</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody> <thead id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_87"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_86"> <th class="first">Kickers</th> <th id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_85">League Value</th> <th>Yahoo! Default Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_66"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_84" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals 0-19 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_83">3</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_82" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals 20-29 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_81">4</td> <td>3</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_80" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals 30-39 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_79">5</td> <td>3</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_78" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals 40-49 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_77">6</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_76" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals 50+ Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_75">7</td> <td>5</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_74" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_73">-2</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_72" class="row2"> <td class="first">Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_71">-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_70" class="row1"> <td class="first">Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_69">-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_68" class="row2"> <td class="first">Point After Attempt Made</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_67">1</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_65" class="row1"> <td class="first">Point After Attempt Missed</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_64">-1</td> <td>0</td> </tr> </tbody> <thead id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_63"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_62"> <th class="first">Defense/Special Teams</th> <th id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_61">League Value</th> <th>Yahoo! Default Value</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_46"> <tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_60" class="row2"> <td class="first">Sack</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_59">1</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Interception</td> <td>1</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_58" class="row2"> <td class="first">Fumble Recovery</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_57">1</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_56" class="row1"> <td class="first">Touchdown</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_55">5</td> <td>6</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_54" class="row2"> <td class="first">Safety</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_53">2</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_52" class="row1"> <td class="first">Block Kick</td> <td>2</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_51">
</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_50" class="row2"> <td class="first">Return Yards</td> <td>50 yards per point</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_49">0</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_48" class="row1"> <td class="first">Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns</td> <td>5</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_47">6</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 0 points</td> <td>20</td> <td>10</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 1-6 points</td> <td>15</td> <td>7</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 7-13 points</td> <td>10</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 14-20 points</td> <td>5</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 21-27 points</td> <td>0</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr class="row1"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 28-34 points</td> <td>-2</td> <td>-1</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_45" class="row2"> <td class="first">Points Allowed 35+ points</td> <td>-5</td> <td id="yui_3_4_1_9_1345493176615_44">-4</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Butter]

Who Can Join
Preference goes towards members who were in the league last year, but signups are open to all.

Signing Up
IF YOU ARE RETURNING, WHEN YOU SIGN UP, PUT A UNIQUE NUMBER 1-10 NEXT TO YOUR NAME. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE NEW. I will let you know once the deadline has passed for signups if you made it in the league, at that point you can select a random number 1-10 that is still available. First come, first served, for new players. I will use a random number generator to determine the draft order. I will take the final number.

Draft Format

The draft will take place in this thread once the league has been set up. It is a snake draft. If nothing changes, we'll start drafting on Saturday, August 17th with draft clock starting at 10 AM Eastern on Monday, August 19th.

The season starts Thursday, September 5th. That means we have about 3 weeks to do the slow, live draft. We're going to do what we did last year with 2 hours per pick between the hours of 10am ET and 10pm ET (7 AM-7 PM Pacific) on weekdays. Hopefully we don't have to enforce this but we always have to a couple of times during the draft. If we are not making good progress by the 2nd week of the live draft, we'll shrink down the time window to 1 hour.

The evening rules are still the same. If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm Eastern), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 11am Eastern) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until noon, Eastern). We have to keep this moving and we need everyone checking every night and every morning if it's near their turn.

If there are problems in that you know your pick is coming up but you won't be online, submit a list either to myself or to a proxy drafter for you. Otherwise, you will get the next player on Yahoo's list. Maybe pick someone who is on the opposite end of the draft from you so that you likely won't be grabbing from the same pool of players anyways.

If we are not done by Tuesday, September 3rd, the remaining roster spots will be filled via an as-yet undetemined method which we've never had to use.

If you miss more than 2 picks in the draft (i.e. time limit expired so a Yahoo rankings pick), particularly in the first 10 rounds, then you can be replaced as manager.

After you make a draft pick, please PM the next owner up to help everyone stay informed.

IF YOU CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THIS SCHEDULE, DO NOT JOIN.

Rule Changes for 2019

Still chugging along. I like fractional points, but most don't so we leave them out. No major changes, as positional spread is still good among WR / QB / RB. Now that passing is so prevalent, there are definitely wilder point swings than there used to be. WRs and QBs can easily have 40+ point games. But no changes unless there is a clamor.

[Butter]

Round 1
1. Saquon Barkley (NYG - RB) - Florida Fusion
2. Alvin Kamara (NO - RB) - Prestige Collection
3. Christian McCaffrey (CAR - RB) - Dawg Pound
4. JuJu Smith-Schuster (PIT - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
5. Ezekiel Elliott (DAL - RB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
6. Todd Gurley (LAR - RB) - Chief's Savages
7. Odell Beckham (CLE - WR) - Woonsocket Warriors
8. DeAndre Hopkins (HOU - WR) - unstopable
9. David Johnson (ARI - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
10. Nick Chubb (CLE - RB) - Greenville Tigers

Round 2
11. Davante Adams (GB - WR) - Greenville Tigers
12. Julio Jones (ATL - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
13. Pat Mahomes (KC - QB) - unstopable
14. Travis Kelce (KC - TE) - Woonsocket Warriors
15. Le'Veon Bell (NYJ - RB) - Chief's Savages
16. Michael Thomas (NO - WR) - Gently Fletcher Cox
17. Tyreek Hill (KC - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
18. James Conner (PIT - RB) - Dawg Pound
19. Mike Evans (TB - WR) - Prestige Collection
20. Keenan Allen (LAC - WR) - Florida Fusion

Round 3
21. Amari Cooper (DAL - WR) - Florida Fusion
22. Dalvin Cook (MIN - RB) - Prestige Collection
23. Antonio Brown (OAK - WR) - Dawg Pound
24. Adam Thielen (MIN - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
25. Joe Mixon (CIN - RB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
26. Deshaun Watson (HOU - QB) - Chief's Savages
27. Kerryon Johnson (DET - RB) - Woonsocket Warriors
28. TY Hilton (IND - WR) - unstopable
29. Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
30. Julian Edelman (NE - WR) - Greenville Tigers

Round 4
31. George Kittle (SF - TE) - Greenville Tigers
32. Stefon Diggs (MIN - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
33. Leonard Fournette (JAX - RB) - unstopable
34. Zach Ertz (PHI - TE) - Woonsocket Warriors
35. Damien Williams (KC - RB) - Chief's Savages
36. Brandin Cooks (LAR - WR) - Gently Fletcher Cox
37. Melvin Gordon (LAC - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
38. Kenny Golladay (DET - WR) - Dawg Pound
39. Robert Woods (LAR - WR) - Prestige Collection
40. Andrew Luck (Jacoby Brissett) (IND - QB) - Florida Fusion

Round 5
41. Devonta Freeman (ATL - RB) - Florida Fusion
42. Marlon Mack (IND - RB) - Prestige Collection
43. Baker Mayfield (CLE - QB) - Dawg Pound
44. Chris Godwin (TB - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
45. Carson Wentz (PHI - QB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
46. Cam Newton (CAR - QB) - Chief's Savages
47. Jameis Winston (TB - QB) - Woonsocket Warriors
48. Derrick Henry (TEN - RB) - unstopable
49. Mark Ingram (BAL - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
50. Matt Ryan (ATL - QB) - Greenville Tigers

Round 6
51. Aaron Jones (GB - RB) - Greenville Tigers
52. OJ Howard (TB - TE) - Dayton Dynamo
53. Cooper Kupp (LAR - WR) - unstopable
54. James White (NE - RB) - Woonsocket Warriors
55. Tyler Boyd (CIN - WR) - Chief's Savages
56. Tyler Lockett (SEA - WR) - Gently Fletcher Cox
57. Calvin Ridley (ATL - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
58. Jarvis Landry (CLE - WR) - Dawg Pound
59. DJ Moore (CAR - WR) - Prestige Collection
60. Kyler Murray (ARI - QB) - Florida Fusion

Round 7
61. Alshon Jeffery (PHI - WR) - Florida Fusion
62. Chris Carson (SEA - RB) - Prestige Collection
63. Drew Brees (NO - QB) - Dawg Pound
64. Phillip Lindsay (DEN - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
65. Lamar Jackson (BAL - QB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
66. Mike Williams (LAC - WR) - Chief's Savages
67. Tom Brady (NE - QB) - Woonsocket Warriors
68. Jared Goff (LAR - QB) - unstopable
69. Allen Robinson (CHI - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
70. Sammy Watkins (KC - WR) - Greenville Tigers

Round 8
71. Russell Wilson (SEA - QB) - Greenville Tigers
72. Will Fuller (HOU - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
73. AJ Green (CIN - WR) - unstopable
74. Lamar Miller (Matt Breida replacement) (SF - RB) - Woonsocket Warriors
75. Evan Engram (NYG - TE) - Chief's Savages
76. Josh Jacobs (OAK - RB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
77. Jared Cook (NO - TE) - Stamford Cyberams
78. David Njoku (CLE - TE) - Dawg Pound
79. Hunter Henry (LAC - TE) - Prestige Collection
80. Ben Roethlisberger (PIT - QB) - Florida Fusion

Round 9
81. Josh Gordon (NE - WR) - Florida Fusion
82. Curtis Samuel (CAR - WR) - Prestige Collection
83. Kenyan Drake (MIA - RB) - Dawg Pound
84. Robby Anderson (NYJ - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
85. Dede Westbrook (JAX - WR) - Gently Fletcher Cox
86. Chicago (CHI - DST) - Chief's Savages
87. Christian Kirk (ARI - WR) - Woonsocket Warriors
88. Eric Ebron (DET - TE) - unstopable
89. Philip Rivers (LAC - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
90. Sony Michel (NE - RB) - Greenville Tigers

Round 10
91. Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR) - Greenville Tigers
92. Austin Ekeler (LAC - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
93. Corey Davis (TEN - WR) - unstopable
94. Sterling Shepard (NYG - WR) - Woonsocket Warriors
95. James Washington (PIT - WR) - Chief's Savages
96. Miles Sanders (PHI - RB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
97. Josh Allen (BUF - QB) - Stamford Cyberams
98. Tarik Cohen (CHI - RB) - Dawg Pound
99. Dante Pettis (SF - WR) - Prestige Collection
100. David Montgomery (CHI - RB) - Florida Fusion

Round 11
101. LA Rams (LAR - DST) - Florida Fusion
102. Marvin Jones (DET - WR) - Prestige Collection
103. Matt Stafford (DET - QB) - Dawg Pound
104. Kirk Cousins (MIN - QB) - Stamford Cyberams
105. Mitch Trubisky (CHI - QB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
106. Derrius Guice (WAS - RB) - Chief's Savages
107. New England (NE - DST) - Woonsocket Warriors
108. Tevin Coleman (SF - RB) - unstopable
109. Latavius Murray (NO - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
110. Vance McDonald (PIT - TE) - Greenville Tigers

Round 12
111. Emmanuel Sanders (DEN - WR) - Greenville Tigers
112. Marques Valdes-Scantling (GB - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
113. Austin Hooper (ATL - TE) - unstopable
114. Royce Freeman (DEN - RB) - Woonsocket Warriors
115. Geronimo Allison (GB - WR) - Chief's Savages
116. Cleveland (CLE - DST) - Gently Fletcher Cox
117. Jimmy Garoppolo (SF - QB) - Stamford Cyberams
118. Devin Funchess (IND - WR) - Dawg Pound
119. Dak Prescott (DAL - QB) - Prestige Collection
120. Adrian Peterson (WAS - RB) - Florida Fusion

Round 13
121. Tyler Eifert (CIN - TE) - Florida Fusion
122. Courtland Sutton (DEN - WR) - Prestige Collection
123. Duke Johnson (HOU - RB) - Dawg Pound
124. Justice Hill (BAL - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
125. DeSean Jackson (PHI - WR) - Gently Fletcher Cox
126. Sam Darnold (NYJ - QB) - Chief's Savages
127. Joe Flacco (DEN - QB) - Woonsocket Warriors
128. Andy Dalton (CIN - QB) - unstopable
129. Jordan Reed (WAS - TE) - Dayton Dynamo
130. Derek Carr (OAK - QB) - Greenville Tigers

Round 14
131. Minnesota (MIN - DST) - Greenville Tigers
132. Nick Foles (JAX - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
133. DK Metcalf (SEA - WR) - unstopable
134. Alexander Mattison (MIN - RB) - Woonsocket Warriors
135. John Brown (BUF - WR) - Chief's Savages
136. Delanie Walker (TEN - TE) - Gently Fletcher Cox
137. Darwin Thompson (KC - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
138. Kareem Hunt (CLE - RB) - Dawg Pound
139. Jacksonville (JAX - DST) - Prestige Collection
140. Baltimore (BAL - DST) - Florida Fusion

Round 15
141. Greg Zuerlein (LAR - K) - Florida Fusion
142. Marcus Mariota (TEN - QB) - Prestige Collection
143. LA Chargers (LAC - DST) - Dawg Pound
144. Harrison Butker (KC - K) - Stamford Cyberams
145. Justin Tucker (BAL - K) - Gently Fletcher Cox
146. Houston (HOU - DST) - Chief's Savages
147. Keke Coutee (HOU - WR) - Woonsocket Warriors
148. Tennessee (TEN - DST) - unstopable
149. Dallas (DAL - DST) - Dayton Dynamo
150. Kalen Ballage (MIA - RB) - Greenville Tigers

Round 16
151. Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) - Greenville Tigers
152. Wil Lutz (NO - K) - Dayton Dynamo
153. Denver (DEN - DST) - unstopable
154. Donte Moncrief (PIT - WR) - Woonsocket Warriors
155. Darren Waller (OAK - TE) - Chief's Savages
156. Kaimi Fairbairn (HOU - K) - Gently Fletcher Cox
157. Robbie Gould (SF - K) - Stamford Cyberams
158. Mark Andrews (BAL - TE) - Dawg Pound
159. New Orleans (NO - DST) - Prestige Collection
160. Jimmy Graham (GB - TE) - Florida Fusion

Round 17
161. Mason Crosby (GB - K) - Florida Fusion
162. Jake Elliott (PHI - K) - Prestige Collection
163. Buffalo (BUF - DST) - Dawg Pound
164. Tre'Quan Smith (NO - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
165. Philadelphia (PHI - DST) - Gently Fletcher Cox
166. N'Keal Harry (NE - WR) - Chief's Savages
167. Matt Prater (DEN - K) - Woonsocket Warriors
168. Adam Humphries (TEN - WR) - unstopable
169. Deebo Samuel (SF - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
170. Hunter Renfrow (OAK - WR) - Greenville Tigers

Round 18
171. Seattle (SEA - DST) - Greenville Tigers
172. Kansas City (KC - DST) - Dayton Dynamo
173. Brett Maher (DAL - K) - unstopable
174. Indianapolis (IND - DST) - Woonsocket Warriors
175. Jason Myers (SEA - K) - Chief's Savages
176. Tony Pollard (DAL - RB) - Gently Fletcher Cox
177. NY Giants (NYG - DST) - Stamford Cyberams
178. Dan Bailey (MIN - K) - Dawg Pound
179. Michael Badgley (LAC - K) - Prestige Collection
180. Golden Tate (NYG - WR) - Florida Fusion

Round 19
181. Carlos Hyde (KC - RB) - Florida Fusion
182. Rashaad Penny (SEA - RB) - Prestige Collection
183. Adam Vinatieri (IND - K) - Dawg Pound
184. Arizona (ARI - DST) - Stamford Cyberams
185. Kenny Stills (MIA - WR) - Gently Fletcher Cox
186. Aldrick Rosas (NYG - K) - Chief's Savages
187. Chris Boswell (PIT - K) - Woonsocket Warriors
188. Dustin Hopkins (WAS - K) - unstopable
189. Josh Lambo (JAX - K) - Dayton Dynamo
190. Daniel Carlson (OAK - K) - Greenville Tigers

[Butter]

Florida Fusion
1. (1) Saquon Barkley (NYG - RB)
2. (20) Keenan Allen (LAC - WR)
3. (21) Amari Cooper (DAL - WR)
4. (40) Andrew Luck (Jacoby Brissett) (IND - QB)
5. (41) Devonta Freeman (ATL - RB)
6. (60) Kyler Murray (ARI - QB)
7. (61) Alshon Jeffery (PHI - WR)
8. (80) Ben Roethlisberger (PIT - QB)
9. (81) Josh Gordon (NE - WR)
10. (100) David Montgomery (CHI - RB)
11. (101) LA Rams (LAR - DST)
12. (120) Adrian Peterson (WAS - RB)
13. (121) Tyler Eifert (CIN - TE)
14. (140) Baltimore (BAL - DST)
15. (141) Greg Zuerlein (LAR - K)
16. (160) Jimmy Graham (GB - TE)
17. (161) Mason Crosby (GB - K)
18. (180) Golden Tate (NYG - WR)
19. (181) Carlos Hyde (KC - RB)

Prestige Collection
1. (2) Alvin Kamara (NO - RB)
2. (19) Mike Evans (TB - WR)
3. (22) Dalvin Cook (MIN - RB)
4. (39) Robert Woods (LAR - WR)
5. (42) Marlon Mack (IND - RB)
6. (59) DJ Moore (CAR - WR)
7. (62) Chris Carson (SEA - RB)
8. (79) Hunter Henry (LAC - TE)
9. (82) Curtis Samuel (CAR - WR)
10. (99) Dante Pettis (SF - WR)
11. (102) Marvin Jones (DET - WR)
12. (119) Dak Prescott (DAL - QB)
13. (122) Courtland Sutton (DEN - WR)
14. (139) Jacksonville (JAX - DST)
15. (142) Marcus Mariota (TEN - QB)
16. (159) New Orleans (NO - DST)
17. (162) Jake Elliott (PHI - K)
18. (179) Michael Badgley (LAC - K)
19. (182) Rashaad Penny (SEA - RB)

Dawg Pound
1. (3) Christian McCaffrey (CAR - RB)
2. (18) James Conner (PIT - RB)
3. (23) Antonio Brown (OAK - WR)
4. (38) Kenny Golladay (DET - WR)
5. (43) Baker Mayfield (CLE - QB)
6. (58) Jarvis Landry (CLE - WR)
7. (63) Drew Brees (NO - QB)
8. (78) David Njoku (CLE - TE)
9. (83) Kenyan Drake (MIA - RB)
10. (98) Tarik Cohen (CHI - RB)
11. (103) Matt Stafford (DET - QB)
12. (118) Devin Funchess (IND - WR)
13. (123) Duke Johnson (HOU - RB)
14. (138) Kareem Hunt (CLE - RB)
15. (143) LA Chargers (LAC - DST)
16. (158) Mark Andrews (BAL - TE)
17. (163) Buffalo (BUF - DST)
18. (178) Dan Bailey (MIN - K)
19. (183) Adam Vinatieri (IND - K)

Stamford Cyberams
1. (4) JuJu Smith-Schuster (PIT - WR)
2. (17) Tyreek Hill (KC - WR)
3. (24) Adam Thielen (MIN - WR)
4. (37) Melvin Gordon (LAC - RB)
5. (44) Chris Godwin (TB - WR)
6. (57) Calvin Ridley (ATL - WR)
7. (64) Phillip Lindsay (DEN - RB)
8. (77) Jared Cook (NO - TE)
9. (84) Robby Anderson (NYJ - WR)
10. (97) Josh Allen (BUF - QB)
11. (104) Kirk Cousins (MIN - QB)
12. (117) Jimmy Garoppolo (SF - QB)
13. (124) Justice Hill (BAL - RB)
14. (137) Darwin Thompson (KC - RB)
15. (144) Harrison Butker (KC - K)
16. (157) Robbie Gould (SF - K)
17. (164) Tre'Quan Smith (NO - WR)
18. (177) NY Giants (NYG - DST)
19. (184) Arizona (ARI - DST)

Gently Fletcher Cox
1. (5) Ezekiel Elliott (DAL - RB)
2. (16) Michael Thomas (NO - WR)
3. (25) Joe Mixon (CIN - RB)
4. (36) Brandin Cooks (LAR - WR)
5. (45) Carson Wentz (PHI - QB)
6. (56) Tyler Lockett (SEA - WR)
7. (65) Lamar Jackson (BAL - QB)
8. (76) Josh Jacobs (OAK - RB)
9. (85) Dede Westbrook (JAX - WR)
10. (96) Miles Sanders (PHI - RB)
11. (105) Mitch Trubisky (CHI - QB)
12. (116) Cleveland (CLE - DST)
13. (125) DeSean Jackson (PHI - WR)
14. (136) Delanie Walker (TEN - TE)
15. (145) Justin Tucker (BAL - K)
16. (156) Kaimi Fairbairn (HOU - K)
17. (165) Philadelphia (PHI - DST)
18. (176) Tony Pollard (DAL - RB)
19. (185) Kenny Stills (MIA - WR)

Chief's Savages
1. (6) Todd Gurley (LAR - RB)
2. (15) Le'Veon Bell (NYJ - RB)
3. (26) Deshaun Watson (HOU - QB)
4. (35) Damien Williams (KC - RB)
5. (46) Cam Newton (CAR - QB)
6. (55) Tyler Boyd (CIN - WR)
7. (66) Mike Williams (LAC - WR)
8. (75) Evan Engram (NYG - TE)
9. (86) Chicago (CHI - DST)
10. (95) James Washington (PIT - WR)
11. (106) Derrius Guice (WAS - RB)
12. (115) Geronimo Allison (GB - WR)
13. (126) Sam Darnold (NYJ - QB)
14. (135) John Brown (BUF - WR)
15. (146) Houston (HOU - DST)
16. (155) Darren Waller (OAK - TE)
17. (166) N'Keal Harry (NE - WR)
18. (175) Jason Myers (SEA - K)
19. (186) Aldrick Rosas (NYG - K)

Woonsocket Warriors
1. (7) Odell Beckham (CLE - WR)
2. (14) Travis Kelce (KC - TE)
3. (27) Kerryon Johnson (DET - RB)
4. (34) Zach Ertz (PHI - TE)
5. (47) Jameis Winston (TB - QB)
6. (54) James White (NE - RB)
7. (67) Tom Brady (NE - QB)
8. (74) Lamar Miller (Matt Breida replacement) (SF - RB)
9. (87) Christian Kirk (ARI - WR)
10. (94) Sterling Shepard (NYG - WR)
11. (107) New England (NE - DST)
12. (114) Royce Freeman (DEN - RB)
13. (127) Joe Flacco (DEN - QB)
14. (134) Alexander Mattison (MIN - RB)
15. (147) Keke Coutee (HOU - WR)
16. (154) Donte Moncrief (PIT - WR)
17. (167) Matt Prater (DEN - K)
18. (174) Indianapolis (IND - DST)
19. (187) Chris Boswell (PIT - K)

unstopable
1. (8) DeAndre Hopkins (HOU - WR)
2. (13) Pat Mahomes (KC - QB)
3. (28) TY Hilton (IND - WR)
4. (33) Leonard Fournette (JAX - RB)
5. (48) Derrick Henry (TEN - RB)
6. (53) Cooper Kupp (LAR - WR)
7. (68) Jared Goff (LAR - QB)
8. (73) AJ Green (CIN - WR)
9. (88) Eric Ebron (DET - TE)
10. (93) Corey Davis (TEN - WR)
11. (108) Tevin Coleman (SF - RB)
12. (113) Austin Hooper (ATL - TE)
13. (128) Andy Dalton (CIN - QB)
14. (133) DK Metcalf (SEA - WR)
15. (148) Tennessee (TEN - DST)
16. (153) Denver (DEN - DST)
17. (168) Adam Humphries (TEN - WR)
18. (173) Brett Maher (DAL - K)
19. (188) Dustin Hopkins (WAS - K)

Dayton Dynamo
1. (9) David Johnson (ARI - RB)
2. (12) Julio Jones (ATL - WR)
3. (29) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
4. (32) Stefon Diggs (MIN - WR)
5. (49) Mark Ingram (BAL - RB)
6. (52) OJ Howard (TB - TE)
7. (69) Allen Robinson (CHI - WR)
8. (72) Will Fuller (HOU - WR)
9. (89) Philip Rivers (LAC - QB)
10. (92) Austin Ekeler (LAC - RB)
11. (109) Latavius Murray (NO - RB)
12. (112) Marques Valdes-Scantling (GB - WR)
13. (129) Jordan Reed (WAS - TE)
14. (132) Nick Foles (JAX - QB)
15. (149) Dallas (DAL - DST)
16. (152) Wil Lutz (NO - K)
17. (169) Deebo Samuel (SF - WR)
18. (172) Kansas City (KC - DST)
19. (189) Josh Lambo (JAX - K)

Greenville Tigers
1. (10) Nick Chubb (CLE - RB)
2. (11) Davante Adams (GB - WR)
3. (30) Julian Edelman (NE - WR)
4. (31) George Kittle (SF - TE)
5. (50) Matt Ryan (ATL - QB)
6. (51) Aaron Jones (GB - RB)
7. (70) Sammy Watkins (KC - WR)
8. (71) Russell Wilson (SEA - QB)
9. (90) Sony Michel (NE - RB)
10. (91) Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR)
11. (110) Vance McDonald (PIT - TE)
12. (111) Emmanuel Sanders (DEN - WR)
13. (130) Derek Carr (OAK - QB)
14. (131) Minnesota (MIN - DST)
15. (150) Kalen Ballage (MIA - RB)
16. (151) Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
17. (170) Hunter Renfrow (OAK - WR)
18. (171) Seattle (SEA - DST)
19. (190) Daniel Carlson (OAK - K)

[claphamsa]

in 5

[DavidCorperial]

In with 6, and as for the 2 running back thing, I think Brandon Jacobs would've been fine as a fullback, he was definitely big enough to play it.

[ntndeacon]

I'm afraid I'm out, since I'm not on the internet when at home, for a bit. Hopefully I'll be back next season.

[Chief Rum]

In 8

[Comey]

Sure, I suppose. #9.

[laser]

In - 10

[Butter]

I'm afraid I'm out, since I'm not on the internet when at home, for a bit. Hopefully I'll be back next season.

Sorry to hear it, thanks for letting me know.

[Butter]

We may need more than 2 new owner if I don't hear from CleBrownsfan or cmgdodgers soon.

Please consider joining, especially if you are already on the boards on a regular basis.

[CleBrownsfan]

I'm in!!!! Not sure why but I'm not checking our forum on a daily basis lately...

#1

[Butter]

Hopefully you can make an exception and visit often for the next couple of weeks.

[CleBrownsfan]

Hopefully you can make an exception and visit often for the next couple of weeks.

Absolutely!

[Butter]

We gotta get 2 owners from somewhere. I could probably convince my son to join, but we'd still need another.

Anyone who even remotely likes fantasy football, it's a low stakes fun league.

[Chief Rum]

We gotta get 2 owners from somewhere. I could probably convince my son to join, but we'd still need another.

Anyone who even remotely likes fantasy football, it's a low stakes fun league.

My brother might consider joining.

[cmgdodgers]

I’ll be back

[Butter]

I’ll be back

Pick a draft number sir. Remaining numbers at the top of the post.

[Butter]

clemsonfan, my wife, is back, she picks #2.

[Chief Rum]

I'm at work right now, but later on tonight, I will reach out to my brother to see if he is interested in joining.

[Butter]

If he's in, we're good. If not, I can probably get my son to join us to make it 10.

[SirFozzie]

if no one else takes it, I'll be #10

[Butter]

Nice Foz! Pick a number, 3, 4, or 7 so I can determine draft order later on.

Then please PM me your e-mail so I can invite you to take over ntndeacon's old team.

[Chief Rum]

Does that mean we're good?

[Butter]

Yes, we're good

[Butter]

Have sent invite for Fozzie to take over ntndeacon's team.

[Butter]

Here is your sequence:

10
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9
8
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3
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Timestamp: 2019-08-17 15:07:45 UTC

[Butter]

Draft order:

laser 1
cmgdodgers 2
CleBrownsfan 3
DavidCorperial 4
Comey 5
Chief Rum 6
SirFozzie 7
claphamsa 8
Butter 9
clemsonfan 10

[Butter]

Draft reminders:

Please PM next person in line to pick after you have picked.

Draft is snake order so it will be reversed in even number rounds.

Draft can start now, but you will have 2 hours to make a selection from 10 AM-10 PM Eastern, Monday- Friday.

If you fail to make a pick in your allotted time, I will select the next highest ranked Yahoo player that fits your starting lineup need, then after all needs are met, the next highest ranked player.

If you don't want that player, you can come back in and post a late pick in the thread of any available player, and I'll change it. But if someone after you picks someone you want, too bad.

Laser is up for pick #1!

[laser]

Sorry for not looking here yesterday. I had first pick last year and it worked out well picking Gurley. This year I really wanted to pick around 6 and really didn't want the first pick. But anyway.......

1.1 Saquon Barkley RB NYG

[cmgdodgers]

1.2 Alvin Kamara NO

[CleBrownsfan]

1.3 Christian McCaffrey Car

[DavidCorperial]

1.4 WR JuJu Smith Schuster Pit

[Comey]

1.5 RB Ezekiel Elliott, DAL

[Chief Rum]

Gah, you guys would leave him to me to consider. Despite the knee issues, I'll bite. Hopefully I'm not burned by my bias here.

1.6 RB Todd Gurley, LAR

[SirFozzie]

1.7 WR Odell Beckham Jr, CLE

[claphamsa]

1.8 WE Deandre Hawkins Hou

[Butter]

I mean, I guess I gotta take:

1.9 RB David Johnson, ARI

[Butter]

clemsonfan:

1.10 RB Nick Chubb, CLE
2.1 WR Davante Adams, GB

Me:

2.2 WR Julio Jones, ATL

[claphamsa]

2.3 Pat Mahomes QB

[SirFozzie]

2.4 TE Travis Kelce, KC

[Chief Rum]

2.5 RB LeVeon Bell, NYJ

[Comey]

2.6 WR Michael Thomas, NO

[DavidCorperial]

2.7 WR Tyreek Hill KC

[CleBrownsfan]

2.8 James Conner Pitt (puke) RB

[cmgdodgers]

2.9 Mike Evans WR TB

[laser]

2.10 Keenan Allen WR LAC
3.1 Amari Cooper WR DAL

[cmgdodgers]

3.2 Dalvin Cook RB Min

[CleBrownsfan]

3.3 Antonio Brown, OAK

[Butter]

Risky, but good value if he actually shows up and this is just a ploy to not be there for training camp.

[laser]

I considered Brown but was too scared.

[Butter]

If anybody has an e-mail they want to use instead of PMs on here, just shoot to me and I can try to e-mail people when it's their turn. I check e-mails much more than PMs. Just let me know

[DavidCorperial]

3.4 - WR Adam Thielen Min

[Comey]

3.5 RB Joe Mixon, CIN

[Chief Rum]

3.6 QB Deshaun Watson, HOU

[SirFozzie]

3.7 Kerryon Johnson, RB, DET

[claphamsa]

3.8 TY hilton WR indy

[Butter]

3.9 QB Aaron Rodgers, GB

clemsonfan is not happy about that Deshaun Watson pick, taking her guy off the board:

3.10 WR Julian Edelman, NE
4.1 TE George Kittle, SF

Back to me:
4.2 WR Stefon Diggs, MIN

[claphamsa]

4,3 RB Leonard Fornette

[Chief Rum]

3.9 QB Aaron Rodgers, GB

clemsonfan is not happy about that Deshaun Watson pick, taking her guy off the board:

3.10 WR Julian Edelman, NE
4.1 TE George Kittle, SF

Back to me:
4.2 WR Stefon Diggs, MIN

Hehe... my bad.

[Butter]

Hehe... my bad.

I think she was not happy with me talking her out of taking him with her #11 overall pick, since it seemed too early for a QB.

Welp

[Comey]

I heavily considered Watson at my pick in the third.

[Butter]

I forgot that Fozzie had sent me a list and there is still one player available on it.

4.4 TE Zach Ertz, PHI

[Chief Rum]

4.5 RB Damien Williams, KC

[Comey]

4.6 WR Brandin Cooks, LAR

[DavidCorperial]

4.7 - Melvin Gordon, LAC

[claphamsa]

4.7 - Melvin Gordon, LAC

bah

[SirFozzie]

I forgot that Fozzie had sent me a list and there is still one player available on it.

4.4 TE Zach Ertz, PHI

Thanks. Wasn't feeling well (Crohn's flareup), I'll make sure I have an updated list when it's my turn again :)

[Butter]

Thanks. Wasn't feeling well (Crohn's flareup), I'll make sure I have an updated list when it's my turn again :)

No problem, it shouldn't have taken me that long to enter your pick.

[Butter]

Time's up for CBF:

CBF changed his 4.8 pick below.

[cmgdodgers]

4.9 Robert Woods LAR

[laser]

4.10 Andrew Luck QB IND
5.1 Devonta Freeman RB ATL

I am taking a gamble on Luck with his injury. I drafted Freeman last year and it came back to bite me - I hope I have better luck with him this season.

[CleBrownsfan]

Sorry - forgot we had an open house for my 6th grader tonight. I'm going to change my pick to: 4.8 Kenny Golladay WR DET if that's okay...

[cmgdodgers]

5.2 Marlin Mack RB IND

[CleBrownsfan]

5.3 Dangerous Baker Mayfield QB CLE

I know - maybe a couple rounds too early but I need to have him this year!

[Butter]

5.3 Dangerous Baker Mayfield QB CLE

I know - maybe a couple rounds too early but I need to have him this year!

I knew you were going to take him.

Even after doubling down on the planting the flag stuff?

[DavidCorperial]

If CBF is allowed to make his swap then I'll do this


5.4 WR Chris Godwin, TB

[Butter]

Yes, that's fine

[CleBrownsfan]

I knew you were going to take him.

Even after doubling down on the planting the flag stuff?

As long as he eventually plants an orange and brown flag in the middle of Heinz Field :devil:

[Comey]

5.5 QB Carson Wentz, PHI

[Chief Rum]

5.6 QB Cam Newton, CAR

[SirFozzie]

5.7 Jamais Winston, QB, TB



(I was thinking of other folks, but seeing a QB run here, including Newton, makes me want to make sure I get at least something out of it)

Edit (was Jackson, forgot that rushing yards is a bit devalued here, so Winston is the better pick)

[Butter]

claphamsa has asked via e-mail to pick "the next best RB"... that is:

5.8 RB Derrick Henry, TEN

[Butter]

Me and my wife's picks:

5.9 RB Mark Ingram, BAL

clemsonfan:

5.10 QB Matt Ryan, ATL
6.1 RB Aaron Jones, GB

Me again

6.2 TE OJ Howard, TB

[claphamsa]

6.3 WR Cooper Kupp

[SirFozzie]

6.4 RB James White (NE)

[Chief Rum]

6.5 WR Tyler Boyd, CIN

[Comey]

Wow, those picks all came super quick.

6.6 WR Tyler Lockett, SEA

[DavidCorperial]

6.7 WR Calvin Ridley, ATL

[CleBrownsfan]

6.8 Jarvis Landry Cle - WR

BtB Browns and couldn't be happier...

[cmgdodgers]

6.9 DJ Moore WR CAR

[laser]

6.10 Kyler Murray QB ARI
7.1 Alshon Jeffery WR PHI

[cmgdodgers]

7.2 Chris Carson RB SEA

[CleBrownsfan]

7.3 D. Brees QB NO

[DavidCorperial]

7.4 RB Phillip Lindsay, DEN

[Comey]

7.5 QB Lamar Jackson, BAL

[Chief Rum]

7.6 WR Mike Williams, LAC

[SirFozzie]

7.7 Tom Brady, QB, NE

[claphamsa]

7.8 QB JArred GOff

[Butter]

7.9 WR Allen Robinson, CHI

clemsonfan selects:
7.10 WR Sammy Watkins, KC
8.1 QB Russell Wilson, SEA

8.2 WR Will Fuller, HOU

[Butter]

7.7 Tom Brady, QB, NE

Surprise! ;)

[SirFozzie]

are you more surprised that I waited this long? ;)

[claphamsa]

8.3 WR AJ Green

[SirFozzie]

8.4 (for realzies), RB Lamar Miller, HOU

[Chief Rum]

8.5 TE Evan Engram, NYG

[Comey]

9.6 RB Josh Jacobs, OAK

[Butter]

DavidCorperial's time is up.


8.7 TE Jared Cook, NO

[Butter]

CleBrownsfan's time is up.

8.8 TE David Njoku, CLE

[Chief Rum]

Man, everybody disappearing today.

[cmgdodgers]

8.9 Hunter Henry TE LAC

[DavidCorperial]

Can I swap to Jared Cook?

[laser]

8.10 Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT
9.1 Josh Gordon WR NE

[Butter]

Can I swap to Jared Cook?

Done

[SirFozzie]

Since I've come down with something (and sleeping a metric shit ton), in the interests of saving time, if my turn comes up during the timed part of the day, you can autodraft (from list or next best available), after one hour.

[cmgdodgers]

9.2 Curtis Samuel WR CAR

[Butter]

Since I've come down with something (and sleeping a metric shit ton), in the interests of saving time, if my turn comes up during the timed part of the day, you can autodraft (from list or next best available), after one hour.

Understood, hope you feel better

[CleBrownsfan]

CleBrownsfan's time is up.

Autodraft
8.8 WR Robby Anderson, NYJ

Can I replace this as 8.8 TE D. Njoku?

[Butter]

Can I replace this as 8.8 TE D. Njoku?

Yes... it is your turn again.

[CleBrownsfan]

9.3 Kenyan Drake Mia - RB

[Chief Rum]

Foz said to only wait an hour for him right?

[Butter]

Yes, but we're not waiting on him. He will actually go after you in this round.

It is DavidCorperial's turn, he has until noon.

[Comey]

He was MIA last round too, and was autopicked. Hopefully he's okay.

[Chief Rum]

You're right. I was thinking we were on the other side of the snake.

[DavidCorperial]

9.4 WR Robby Anderson NYJ

[Comey]

9.5 WR Dede Westbrook, JAX

[Chief Rum]

9.6 DEF Chicago

[Butter]

Foz's self-constrained hour is up:

Autopick
9.7 WR Christian Kirk, ARI

[claphamsa]

9.8 TE Eric EBron

[Butter]

9.9 QB Philip Rivers, LAC

clemsonfan takes:

9.10 RB Sony Michel, NE
10.1 WR Larry Fitzgerald, ARI

Back to me:

10.2 RB Austin Ekeler, LAC

[claphamsa]

10.3 Corey Davis TEN

[Butter]

Foz's self-constrained hour is up.

Autopick
10.4 WR Sterling Shepard, NYG

[Chief Rum]

10.5 WR James Washington, PIT

[Comey]

10.6 RB Miles Sanders, PHI

[DavidCorperial]

10.7 QB Josh Allen BUF

[CleBrownsfan]

10.8 T. Cohen RB CHI

[cmgdodgers]

10.9 Dante Pettis WR SF

[laser]

10.10 David Montgomery RB CHI
11.1 Los Angeles Rams DEF

[cmgdodgers]

11.2 Marvin Jones WR Det

[CleBrownsfan]

11.3 M. Stafford QB DET

[DavidCorperial]

11.4 QB Kirk Cousins MIN

[Comey]

11.5 QB Mitch Trubisky, CHI

[Chief Rum]

11.6 RB Derrius Guice, WAS

[SirFozzie]

11.7 New England Patriots DEFENSE


On autodraft until further notice, hurt my leg, hopefully not badly, but I can't really stand

[claphamsa]

10.8 tevin coleman RB SF

[Butter]

11.9 RB Latavius Murray, NO

clemsonfan selects:
11.10 TE Vance McDonald, PIT
12.1 WR Emmanuel Sanders, DEN

12.2 WR Marques Valdes-Scantling, GB

[claphamsa]

12.3 TE Austin Hooper

[Butter]

Foz:

12.4 RB Royce Freeman, DEN

[Chief Rum]

12.5 WR Geronimo Allison, GB

[Comey]

12.6 Cleveland DEF

[laser]

Christian Kirk was taken in round 9 (pick 87)

[DavidCorperial]

12.7 QB Jimmy Garoppolo SF

[Comey]

Christian Kirk was taken in round 9 (pick 87)

Damn. I looked his name up and got nothing. Okay.

[Comey]

Dola—

I apparently no longer have my search function available to me on my phone. So I’ll do the best I can.

[CleBrownsfan]

12.8 Devin Funchess WR IND

[cmgdodgers]

12.9 Dak Prescott DAL

[laser]

12.10 Adrian Peterson RB WAS
13.1 Tyler Eifert TE CIN

[cmgdodgers]

13.2 Courtland Sutton WR Den

[CleBrownsfan]

13.3 Duke Johnson Jr RB HOU

[DavidCorperial]

13.4 RB Justice Hill BAL

[Comey]

13.4 RB Phillip Lindsay DEN

Lindsay was drafted in the seventh. By you. You can’t get him twice.

[Comey]

13.5 WR DeSean Jackson, PHI

[DavidCorperial]

Lindsay was drafted in the seventh. By you. You can’t get him twice.


Sorry, I'm a bit out of it today, just changed the pick.

[Butter]

So I think it's only fair that the person that took Andrew Luck is awarded Jacoby Brissett.

I will be making that change, just so nobody tries to draft him.

Looks like it was Florida Fusion that took him.

[claphamsa]

checks to see who picked luck...

[CleBrownsfan]

Yikes- I’m good with that Butter

[claphamsa]

eh, someone gets hurt, someone retires,shit happens. FWIW, I'm much more affected than him, since now TY Hilton is shit :( but such is life in FFL

[laser]

I like getting Brissett instead of Luck but I knew I was taking a risk when drafting Luck - I thought it was an injury risk and not a retirement risk. If everyone is okay with the switch I am happy, but if there are objections, I understand, and I will keep Luck and release him after the draft.

[SirFozzie]

No problem with it.

edit: I do have a question, if we lose people to season ending injuries before the draft is over, do we get a free pick/replacement pick? Lamar Miller looks to have torn his ACL, and he was a high draft pick for me.

[claphamsa]

i dont object, but its a risk

[Chief Rum]

13.6 QB Sam Darnold, NYJ

[SirFozzie]

13.7 Joe Flacco, QB, DEN

Ugh.

[Chief Rum]

13.7 Joe Flacco, QB, DEN

Ugh.

I know. I'm so sorry.

[Butter]

No problem with it.

edit: I do have a question, if we lose people to season ending injuries before the draft is over, do we get a free pick/replacement pick? Lamar Miller looks to have torn his ACL, and he was a high draft pick for me.

I'm fine if you wish to swap that pick for a remaining player. I don't view it as different than swapping out an autopick, even though it was many rounds ago.

[claphamsa]

13.8 QB Andy Dalton

[Butter]

13.9 TE Jordan Reed, WAS

clemsonfan selects:
13.10 QB Derek Carr, OAK
14.1 DST Minnesota

14.2 QB Nick Foles, JAX

[claphamsa]

14.3 DK MEtcalf WR

[SirFozzie]

Pick coming momentarily, sorry for delay. at computer now

Replacement pick for Miller (who is out for year)

RB Matt Breida, SF

14.4 RB Alexander Mattison, MIN

[Chief Rum]

Apologies for the long wait, folks. Been working a busy shift today and wasn't able to check my phone.

14.5 WR John Brown, BUF

[SirFozzie]

(autodraft for me tomorrow, heading to Urgent Care to have leg x-rayed, looks like)

[Comey]

14.6 TE Delanie Walker, TEN

[DavidCorperial]

14.7 RB Darwin Thompson KC

[Butter]

I appreciate everybody keeping things moving, only 5+ rounds left.

As we enter the homestretch, this is a reminder of the requirement to take 2 defenses and 2 kickers in your draft. You can take more than that if you like, but you must take at least 2 of each.

As we get toward the final three rounds or so, I will post a recap of where everyone is on that requirement.

Thanks!

[CleBrownsfan]

14.8 Kareem Hunt Cle - RB

[cmgdodgers]

14.9 Jags Def

[Butter]

laser has until 2 PM Eastern, since he has 2 picks to make.

[laser]

14.10 Baltimore Ravens DEF
15.1 Greg Zuerlein K LAR

[cmgdodgers]

15.2 Marcus Mariota QB TEN

[CleBrownsfan]

15.3 Los Angeles LAC - DEF

[Comey]

15.5 K Justin Tucker, BAL

[DavidCorperial]

15.4 K Harrison Butker KC

[Chief Rum]

15.6 DEF Houston

[Butter]

Foz needs a WR.

15.7 WR Keke Coutee, HOU

[claphamsa]

def tennesee

[Butter]

15.9 DST Dallas

clemsonfan selects:
15.10 RB Kalen Ballage, MIA
16.1 K Stephen Gostkowski, NE

16.2 K Wil Lutz, NO

[claphamsa]

16.3 DEF Denver

[Butter]

Foz gets another WR as an autopick:

16.4 WR Donte Moncrief, PIT

[Chief Rum]

16.5 TE Darren Waller, OAK

[Butter]

Here's where everyone stands with respect to defenses and kickers:

Those with 4 picks remaining:
Florida Fusion - must draft 1 K
Prestige Collection - must draft 1 DEF, 2 K
Dawg Pound - 1 DEF, 2 K
Stamford Cyberams - 2 DEF, 1 K
Gently Fletcher Cox - 1 DEF, 1 K

Those with 3 picks remaining:
Chief's Savages - 2 K
Woonsocket Warriors - 1 DEF, 2 K
unstopable - 2 K
Dayton Dynamo - 1 DEF, 1 K
Greenville Tigers - 1 DEF, 1 K

[Comey]

16.6 Ka'imi Fairbairn, HOU

[DavidCorperial]

16.7 - K Robbie Gould SF

[Butter]

Dawg Pound time is up

16.8 TE Mark Andrews, BAL

[cmgdodgers]

16.9 Saints DEF

[laser]

16.10 Jimmy Graham TE GB
17.1 Mason Crosby K GB

[Butter]

McDonald was taken in Round 11

[CleBrownsfan]

Sorry guys... one of my lines were down today and I've been troubleshooting it all freaken day. Good news- it's up and running.

[cmgdodgers]

PM’d Laser

[Butter]

So did I. He has until 5:30, then we'll have to move on.

[laser]

Sorry for slowing things down. I changed the pick to Jimmy Graham TE GB.

[cmgdodgers]

17.2 Jake Elliot K PHI

[SirFozzie]

17Best available K
18Best Available DEF
19Best Available K

That should close me out, rather then wait for me :)

[Butter]

CleBrownsfan's time is up:

Autopick
17.3 DST Buffalo

[DavidCorperial]

17.4 WR Tre'Quan Smith NO

[Comey]

CleBrownsfan's time is up:

Autopick
17.3 DST Buffalo

Those two autopicks were my next two picks. That’s great.

[Comey]

17.5 PHI DST

[Chief Rum]

Those two autopicks were my next two picks. That’s great.

Lol... sucks when someone backs into a good pick!

[Comey]

Lol... sucks when someone backs into a good pick!

Twice, at that. Just today's picks. Oh well.

[Chief Rum]

17.6 WR N'Keal Harry, NE

[Butter]

Foz autopick

17.7 K Matt Prater, DEN

[claphamsa]

17.8 WR Adam Humphries

[Butter]

17.9 WR Deebo Samuel, SF

clemsonfan selects:

17.10 WR Hunter Renfrow, OAK
18.1 DST Seattle

My next-to-last pick:

18.2 DST Kansas City

[Butter]

claphamsa selects via requested autopick:

18.3 K Brett Maher, DAL

[Butter]

Foz selects, via requested autopick:

18.4 DST Indianapolis

[Chief Rum]

18.5 K Jason Myers, SEA

[Comey]

18.6 WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling, GB

[laser]

Marquez Valdes-Scantling was taken in round 12. I am sending a PM to Comey.

[Butter]

I e-mailed him also. thanks

[Comey]

I looked up both Marquez and Valdes. Search turned up nothing.

(Marquez was misspelled, I now see.)

Picking again.

[DavidCorperial]

18.7 Giants DST

[Comey]

18.6 RB Tony Pollard, DAL

[CleBrownsfan]

18.8 Dan Bailey Min - K

[cmgdodgers]

18.9 Michael Badgley K LAC

[laser]

18.10 Golden Tate WR NYG
19.1 Carlos Hyde RB KC

[cmgdodgers]

19.2 Rashaad Penny RB SEA

[Butter]

I'm going to be out of town starting today in about an hour until Saturday. I'll do my best with the autopicks and my final picks and such, hopefully we will finish this draft today and get everyone's team finalized.

But it may take a couple of days to finalize the stuff on Yahoo as I won't be near a computer tomorrow at all. I will post again when I have everything completed on the site so you can go in and set your Week 1 lineups.

Thanks for everyone's patience and a relatively speedy draft. I think last year we were dragging into week 3 on this for whatever reason.

[Butter]

CleBrownsfan's time is up:

Autopick
19.3 K Adam Vinatieri, IND

[DavidCorperial]

19.4 Cardinals DST

[claphamsa]

19.4 Cardinals DST

can we get confirmation if these cardinals are beloved?

[Comey]

19.5 WR Kenny Stills, MIA

[Chief Rum]

19.6 K Aldrick Rosas, NYG

[Butter]

Foz autopick:

19.7 K Chris Boswell, PIT

[Butter]

Claphamsa autopick:

19.8 K Dustin Hopkins, WAS

[Butter]

My final pick:

19.9 K Josh Lambo, JAX

Clemsonfan's final pick:

19.10 K Daniel Carlson, OAK

[Butter]

I will bump this thread tomorrow once all the players have been entered into Yahoo!

Thanks everyone!

[Butter]

Draft results have been finalized and you should be able to set your lineups for Week 1 now.

Let me know if you have any issues with your players.

Thanks, and good luck!

[claphamsa]

yahoo says i have an empty roster spot, and when I look at the draft results 3 of us had no picks in round 17.

[Butter]

I will take a look and make sure everyone has the correct players. Thanks

[Butter]

This is fixed. Sorry about that, thanks for pointing it out. Please verify that your rosters are correct.