What the Hell are you Listening to (2024)?

[EagleFan]

Might as well make a new one for this year.

I'll start with a group I am going to see next month and pumped for it.

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[EagleFan]

another group I'll be seeing...

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[EagleFan]

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[EagleFan]

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[EagleFan]

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Just got home from seeing Vandenberg & Geoff Tate.

Quite solid, AV is still a guitar god, Tate was surprisingly good tbh.

Best of all to me maybe? Both seemed ... happy.

Considering there were maybe 200 people in attendance, made me feel better to see no sign of disappointment or anything other than they looked happy to be playing ... period.

[Ksyrup]

Tate is definitely a douchenozzle. He's like the prog metal version of Dennis DeYoung. Undeniable talent though.

[Schmidty]

Grandaddy.

It’s their first since like 2006. Bassist dies a bit ago. Jason Lytle didn’t want to continue at that point.

But they/he are coming back.

Not sure what to describe them as. Lofi brilliant? Bits and pieces and a shit ton of heart.

[Ksyrup]

I'll admit to being a huge Judas Priest fan going back 40 years to my pre- and early teens, but I'll be damned if the new album isn't some of the best stuff they've done in decades. The last album was really good but this one's better - 50 years after the release of their first album.

Nothing groundbreaking, just some damn good metal.

I'll be seeing them in May in Atlanta with a couple of high school friends. I last saw them around 1990 or so with Megadeth and Testament. I definitely want to see Halford at least one more time. Hard to believe that dude is only a few years younger than parents.

[JonInMiddleGA]

KK's Priest was a solid set, if a bit heavy on early Judas Priest material. Despite that (which suited the pretty good crowd just fine best I could tell) my neck is a little sore today, most legit headbanging set I've seen anyone do in a long time.

More surprised by how solid LA Guns were tbh. Phil Lewis is 67 and probably sounds as good as he's ever sounded.

[Ryche]

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I prefer the version they did with Alissa White-Gluz, seems more appropriate with a female singer

[Ghost Econ]

Anyone here listen on vinyl? Final got around to getting a somewhat real turntable and speakers. It really does feel warmer. And having to get up every 20 minutes or so makes the music feel more engaging. 90% of my "collection" are Goodwill dumpster dives, but I've still found some albums I've always liked. Like listening to Chicago Transit Authority, even a copy I literally paid a dime for, sounds more enjoyable than streaming it losslessly from Apple.

Also, cleaning records really does make a huge difference. As a kid I just assumed everything had pops and cracks every second or 2. It's because my dad played the shit out of his records on bargain turntables without ever cleaning them.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Anyone here listen on vinyl?

You do you, by all means.

For me, I can't think of anything with less appeal than doing that. From an equipment standpoint, from a storage standpoint, from an irritation & aggravation standpoint, from a price/selection standpoint, that's about as big a nope combo meal as I could come up with.

[Ksyrup]

I agree. And then throw in that I sold/gave away probably 1000 vinyl, 2000 cassette, still have a wall and a half of CD... I'm good with MP3s. 98% of my listening is done in the car anyway.

[NobodyHere]

So yeah, lots of famous people collaborated for this one

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[Edward64]

Not bad but could be better. The video is below par.

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... do think Miley's is better.

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[GrantDawg]

Not bad but could be better. The video is below par.


Dolly says she likes Beyonce's version. I will defer to the Queen.


Edit: That is the official lyric video, not the official video.

[AlexB]

Lots of good British albums recently (Creeper, Lathums, Last Dinner Party, etc) but stand out is Yard Act’s second album Where’s My Utopia… A mix of great music, lyrics and wry wit

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[Ghost Econ]

My daughter stayed up for the new Taylor Swift release since she doesn't have school tomorrow... This also marks the 8th time in the last 10 weeks she hasn't had school on Friday.

[Ghost Econ]

Dola, and so I stay relevant and am able to embarrass said daughter, I listened to all 31 tracks of the new album. The main album is basically Midnights 2.0 filtered through her Folklore/Evermore era. The extra album is basically her Folklore/Evermore era with a splash of Midnights. While it all sounds samesy, even for a Taylor Swift album, the second set is much stronger. This isn't an album with a natural hit and doesn't really have anything that could be considered upbeat.

[korme]

The National influence strikes again

[Ghost Econ]

Got tickets to Smashing Pumpkins and another set to Weezer. Supposedly Weezer will play the Blue Album straight through so I'll probably leave after that. I'm not sure I've intentionally heard a Pumpkins song since Mellon Collie, so not looking forward to a concert of more recent stuff. But Live Nation is doing a $25 ticket sale, so for $100 all in my wife and I get to go to 2 concerts that would normally cost at leave twice as much.

[Lathum]

Weezer is fabulous live. Really fun.

We are seeing Smashing Pumpkins with Rancid and Green Day this summer.

Just saw The Interrupters and SUM 41 the other night. The Interrupters are always fantastic live. Sum 41 had tons of energy

I'm driving 2.5 hours and staying overnight in a couple weeks to go see Frank Turner. Really looking forward to that one as he is amazing live and it's in a smaller setting.

[Ksyrup]

Spent about 24 hours in Atlanta over the weekend to hang out with a couple of HS friends and see Judas Priest. Great time. Was great to see the Priest for the first time in over 30 years. Halford can still bring it.

Opener was Sabaton, a band I knew about but had never heard. Their gimmick is military-themed power metal. While they were entertaining enough and put on a good show, I'm not much of a fan of power metal and song after song about battles and wars and whatever got old quick. It was like they looked at Iron Maiden's catalog and said, "Nope, not enough military history."

It also ignited a bit of a discussion about backing tracks, because this band was clearly using them. The backing vocals were full and pristine and clearly not being sung by the band live. And at one point, they did some song about poison gas and the entire band came out wearing gas masks - including the lead singer, who proceeded to "sing" through his mask for the entire song. That lead us to question what other lead vocal parts might not have been live, although I'm pretty sure he was doing it live. Didn't necessarily ruin the performance, and I get for a band that heavily relies on layered backing vocals during recording, you want to reproduce that sound live as best you can. But this seemed a bit more performative in that they weren't just supporting the vocals - they were the vocals.

Anyway, great weekend and a perfect night on Saturday night for an outdoor show even if getting from PTC to Alpharetta was a shitshow.

[GrantDawg]

Good Lord. PTC to Alpharetta is a horrible commute. Easier to cross the Alps.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, it was bad. They were talking about some place in Macon where there are a decent amount of shows and that it was 20 miles farther to get to Macon but it usually takes 15 less minutes to get there compared to Ameris Bank Ampitheater.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Spent about 24 hours in Atlanta over the weekend to hang out with a couple of HS friends and see Judas Priest. Great time. Was great to see the Priest for the first time in over 30 years. Halford can still bring it.

Well fuck .. we were there too. You coulda waved or something lol.

And on a 2 show weekend (Staind/Seether in GVL last night), Sabaton was absolutely the standout performance of the whole weekend for me ... and probably drew as much of the crowd as Priest. I was absolutely stunned & amazed by how much of a fanbase they had, I never knew.

[Ksyrup]

Same here! We were looking around and people were actually singing all the words. Like I said, I thought they were entertaining but the other stuff kinda took them down a notch or two. The Hello Kitty guitar was a nice touch, though.

[JonInMiddleGA]

FWIW -- just in case someone else hasn't discovered it -- Groupon made a HUGE difference in pricing for that show, and quite a few others recently.

A difference big enough that I could justify going to both shows this weekend, whereas I might have passed on one if not both otherwise.

At today's prices (which I thought clearly hurt both crowds), 48% to 62% off is pretty noticeable.

[Ksyrup]

Good deal. Yeah, my buddies who know the venue were surprised they didn't even attempt to sell the lawn. I said, it's probably because sitting on a blanket is not METAL.

[GrantDawg]

That's such a good heads up, Jon. Just looked, and there are a bunch of concerts at $25 a ticket on there. Stone Temple Pilots, Rob Zombie with Alice Cooper, Five Finger Death Punch...nothing I would necessarily go to, but I'm going to keep my eye on it.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Good deal. Yeah, my buddies who know the venue were surprised they didn't even attempt to sell the lawn. I said, it's probably because sitting on a blanket is not METAL.

Nah, I've been on the lawns around Atlanta plenty of times. Saving money is respectably metal :)

That was all about pricing IMO. They knew if they offered $25 lawn (which with the $25 lawn sale now underway they'd had to have gone low), they'd be 75% unsold in the reserved.

[Lathum]

Just got tickets to see Rise Against in Philly in October. Really excited for this show.

[Lathum]

Every so often I am reminded just how fucking awesome The Offspring is.

[EagleFan]

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[EagleFan]

Every so often I am reminded just how fucking awesome The Offspring is.

I hope they are, they will be at the MMRBQ as headliner and are the group I am least looking forward to.

[EagleFan]

Also, from the concert I went to last month. It was the trifecta of shows. Great performance, great crowd (mostly), and the venue was incredible (Pier 17 rooftop in NYC).

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[Ksyrup]

I would like to see those guys live. But yeah, the crowd has got to be good for max enjoyment. Basically, it can't be a bunch of me's.

[Ksyrup]

Since discovering Amigo the Devil about 5 years ago, I've jumped into a lot of dark folk/country/rock/pop, etc. A couple months ago I ran across this guy Dan Spencer and he blew me away. Definitely way more country than anything I'd typically listen to, but he definitely has that metal vibe Amigo has - lyrically dark/edgy/underground but with really smart/funny lyrics.

I can't find much info on him at all. He just released a new album and I saw a local Tennessee article that showed a tour that includes Lexington, but I'll be damned if I can find any info on either his site or the venue's site about it.

Anyway, I want more stuff like this or Amigo.

NSFW!

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These lyrics - awesome!

It don't take much to make a few bucks
Down in Music Town, Tennessee
Read the right books, find the right look
And have your dad own an oil refinery
Really what's the difference
Between grunge and country music?
They're both gonna kill themselves
But one needs a way to prove it
One has to live what he wrote
And I hate to say I love, to hate to say I love to hate to say I love
Love to hate. I love to say "I hate to say"
It didn't take long to find the true scot or the DIY bourgeoisie
Americonartist polyamateurs
Fuckin with a limp dick pointed straight at me
Really what's the difference between blues and Black Metal?
It's the same line of work it's just a different devil
And the pay is just about the same
And I wish I had a dime for every time I wished a had a dime
Wished I had a dime for every time I had a dime
I kinda thought I'd be paid for and bought
And go to work in the machine
A life on my knees, singing dirt on my jeans
I think you know exactly what I mean
So what's the difference between punk and southern gospel?
They both had their place in time
And they're both gonna turn to fossil
And I can't say I dig either one
And I think that you deserve to think that you deserve
To think that you're the thing to beat; the thing you think
That you deserve to be
I really can't wait to be what ya hate
And have it all work out just fine
I don't need your love on a latex glove
But I'm lubed up and ready for a real hard time
So to the city I swear a solemn see ya later
You taught me I'm my one and only savior
Ive been loyal, but you couldn't be bothered to return the favor
So now I have to go off
And now be bursting with country fresh flavor

[Ksyrup]

Speaking of Amigo, the true sign of an artist is to come up with a quote so good you end up selling it on merchandise, then you feel guilty because it's not associated with an actual song you wrote, so you write said song and it's freaking awesome.

Also NSFW.

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[thesloppy]

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[Ghost Econ]

Seeing a packed arena rap along to a song about Drake being a pedophile is wild... and they did it 5 times.

[Ksyrup]

OK, so I have to admit - I never really liked Crazy Train. I know it's hugely popular, but after the intro, it kinda sucks.

So when I ran across this tweet, I immediately identified with it:

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That led me down a rabbithole to this...

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Have a nice day!

[thesloppy]

Every couple of months I play this video to usher myself into a slow, sleepy wake-up. It's a vibe.

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[Ksyrup]

I know I'll be the only one on this board geeking out about this, but Opeth just announced their new album, tour and first single for the album The Last Will and Testament. And holy shit, THE GROWLS ARE BACK.

It's been like 15 years since Akerfeldt dropped the death metal and went 70s prog. And while I like what they've produced since then, it's got nothing on the old stuff. The light/day, dynamic sounds they used to produce have been sorely missing. I have no idea if this is just a one-off for the first single (it's also the first track), but the metal internet is blowing up about the new song.

It's a concept album set in post-WWI era, unfolding the story of a wealthy, conservative patriarch whose last will and testament reveals shocking family secrets. Bring it on!

So anyway... my wife thought I was fucking nuts, and I felt like giving her some company by having the rest of you think the same.

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[Young Drachma]

Damn Opeth still making music, that's cool.

[Ksyrup]

They never went away, it's just that Akerfeldt had a falling out with death metal and decided to channel his inner-Camel and write the 70s prog rock that's he's always loved. At first, he really bristled at the fact that the fans were not happy about it. The first tour they did post-growl, he didn't perform any songs with growls and heard it from the fanbase. So the live shows went back to what they should have always been - a mix of new and old - but all 3 or 4 releases since Watershed have been only clean vocals and a cleaner guitar tone. So, this new song kinda marries the old with the new a bit. I really like it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Citing Steven Tyler's inability to recover fully from his vocal injury, Aerosmith announces their retirement from touring, effective immediately

x.com (https://x.com/Aerosmith/status/1819483168124072443)

[GrantDawg]

That's sad, but then shocking that they had still been touring. These old rockers tour till they are in the grave, and then sometimes after.

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[thesloppy]

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Waiting on the new one from this guy.

[HerRealName]

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Waiting on the new one from this guy.

100%. I probably mentioned Wednesday in the 2023 thread and Lenderman is their lead guitar player. They seem like a great group of young people.

[Suicane75]

Started about 4 years ago with a suitcase and was blown away by how more open particular records sounded than on digital. Quickly upgraded to a mid level Audio Technica turntable/speaker combo and it's been an absolute joy. I'm not gonna preach, but to my ears there is definitely a difference IF you have a good record/pressing, which discogs is a godsend for. It is expensive, and storage can be a hassle if you're buying rare stuff but I have had so many amazing experiences that it's made the time and money more than worth it.

Anyone here listen on vinyl? Final got around to getting a somewhat real turntable and speakers. It really does feel warmer. And having to get up every 20 minutes or so makes the music feel more engaging. 90% of my "collection" are Goodwill dumpster dives, but I've still found some albums I've always liked. Like listening to Chicago Transit Authority, even a copy I literally paid a dime for, sounds more enjoyable than streaming it losslessly from Apple.

Also, cleaning records really does make a huge difference. As a kid I just assumed everything had pops and cracks every second or 2. It's because my dad played the shit out of his records on bargain turntables without ever cleaning them.

[Ksyrup]

I absolutely hear the difference, but the way I listen to music, vinyl is worthless. 90-95% of my listening is in the car or my phone while not in the house. The other 5-10% is on my computer in the house, but only for searching for new music. I can't think of a situation in which I would just sit around the house listening to music. And of course with the kind of music I listen to, and at the volume levels I listen to it at, no one else in my house wants to hear it and I'd probably invite some neighbors to call the cops.

It's just completely at odds with how I consume music these days, so there's no point. I've learned to deal with it.

[GrantDawg]

You get one of those little turntables for the dash of you car.
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[Ksyrup]

Uh...no.

[Suicane75]

Ha, I'm pretty much the same way due to living arrangements and constraints, but that's why I enjoy it so much. Every 6-8 weeks I set my rig up and just give myself 2-3 hours to listen to whatever I have queued up. I still haven't listened to about half the stuff I've bought.

To stay on topic, I just listened to Sarah Harmer: You Were Here, and it's bloody beautiful.

I absolutely hear the difference, but the way I listen to music, vinyl is worthless. 90-95% of my listening is in the car or my phone while not in the house. The other 5-10% is on my computer in the house, but only for searching for new music. I can't think of a situation in which I would just sit around the house listening to music. And of course with the kind of music I listen to, and at the volume levels I listen to it at, no one else in my house wants to hear it and I'd probably invite some neighbors to call the cops.

It's just completely at odds with how I consume music these days, so there's no point. I've learned to deal with it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I absolutely hear the difference, but the way I listen to music, vinyl is worthless. 90-95% of my listening is in the car or my phone while not in the house. The other 5-10% is on my computer in the house, but only for searching for new music. I can't think of a situation in which I would just sit around the house listening to music ... It's just completely at odds with how I consume music these days, so there's no point.

That's me.

My level of engagement with whatever is playing may vary low or high but there's literally NEVER a time -- beyond assessment for suitability, reviewing, etc -- that I'm ONLY just listening to music. Games are just about the only thing I do that isn't part of multi-tasking, I simply don't do "sit around and do a single thing" otherwise.

[Ksyrup]

It's been a pretty low-key summer for music for me. I have a bunch of pre-orders queued up but I haven't bought anything since mid-June, which is unusual for me.

That said, it's about to start heating up. New Leprous, Bent Knee and Zeal & Ardor by the end of this month, followed by Oceans of Slumber.


Z&A continue with the evolution of their black metal-meets-soul/black gospel sound that was born as a dare on 4Chan:

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This is classic Leprous - bloody awesome. The way they use dynamics to build a song is phenomenal. First 2 minutes are quiet, funky, meandering, then a gut-punch into a heavy/intense last 2 minutes. This song will be EPIC live.

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Bent Knee is a band I loved early on, then they went weird (crappy music and over-saturation of auto-tune), then lost 2 key members. But the 2 songs they've released for the upcoming album feel like them going back to their roots. As usual, Courtney Swain's vocals are amazing but definitely a "love her or hate her" type of quality to them.

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Oceans of Slumber is an under-the-radar great metal band. From Houston, and what sets them apart is that their vocalist is an A-A R&B singer-type. You rarely hear such direct soul/R&B sound melded with metal and they do it really well. They've been adding covers to the past few albums, and this time it's Wicked Game, which is pretty good. But this is the first single, an original. It kicks in for real at about the 1:50 mark.

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[thesloppy]

Going to see old-school punk icons FEAR tonight. Purposely super-offensive but also remarkably tight and musical, compared to the other punks of that time.

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[Ksyrup]

Damn, I remember listening to them in college. Fear - More Beer was one their albums, right?

[thesloppy]

Damn, I remember listening to them in college. Fear - More Beer was one their albums, right?

Yes indeed! That was their second record. I took 5 years of lessons from their drummer (on those first two records) Spit Stix. He's a solid guy.

[stevew]

Went to see the Chilfish Gambino New World Tour last night and it was absolutely wild. All kinds of crazy lasers and fiber optics. An absolute spectacle

[Ghost Econ]

Saw The Smashing Pumpkins last night. Not the most energetic or greatest concert ever, but they're also mid-late 50s. It's basically like having gone to see the Eagles in the 2000s. It is weird thinking this is the same group from the 90s moshing heyday. Never saw them earlier as their better run when I was a young teen and had no money, and by the time I did they were basically broken up.

Still, hearing the songs in person does put me in a good place. But I still feel awkward at concerts. I'm not really a dancing, sing along kinda guy. I just want to watch people who make good music play that music in person.

Seeing Weezer next month where they play the blue album. Opening is Flaming Lips and Dinosaur Jr., which is always fun.

[Qwikshot]

Nick Cave Wild God

Amazingly Heartbreakingly Beautiful

[Ksyrup]

August has been a great month for music for me, and today especially - Leprous, Bent Knee, and Anciients plus a few others.

And I just found out that Dan Spencer, who I posted about earlier in this (or the other?) thread is opening for Amigo the Devil at the Asheville show were going to in a couple weeks. Super stoked for that show, even more now.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Not the most energetic or greatest concert ever, but they're also mid-late 50s.

Not entirely an excuse IMO. Just saw Rob Halford, he's 73. Bruce Dickinson is 66 and beat cancer. Phil Lewis of L.A. Guns is 67 and might be more active than ever (certainly sounds as good/better than ever).

I could go on but you get the idea.

[Edward64]

Going to start listening to some Bon Jovi songs. Pretty cool what he (and woman) did. Check out the video.

Jon Bon Jovi helps talk a woman down from the ledge on Nashville bridge | AP News (https://apnews.com/video/jon-bon-jovi-nashville-music-national-8c8068ff712240489d49b4af02f99074)
Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Jon Bon Jovi and a video production assistant persuaded a woman standing on the ledge of a pedestrian bridge in Nashville to come back over the railing to safety.

[Ksyrup]

Headed to Asheville tomorrow to see Amigo the Devil and Dan Spencer. Stoked! And oh yeah, we get to see my parents and brother and his wife.

[Ghost Econ]

Saw Weezer last night for the 30th anniversary of the Blue Album. While they had a giant video board and a few props, they're basically the 90s version of the Eagles. You'll hear the hits but not much else. It's technically well done and most of the songs are good to great, but not much of a show.

Dinosaur Jr. opened and they still sound the exact same. Flaming Lips played between them and as usual put on a great set. Their music is pretty much exactly the type of music I should like, but I've just never gotten into them. But every time I've seen them live they're a blast.

I will say, we had seats behind two guys that showed up early in the Flaming Lips set. They proceeded to drink and loudly talk to each other the entire rest of the concert. I mean I could hear their conversation over the music. Why the fuck are you there if you're not going to listen to the music?

[korme]

I'll be seeing Dinosaur Jr at B&B on Sunday!

[thesloppy]

Whenever I see the words Dinosaur Jr I am compelled to blurt out that I saw Nirvana open for Dinosaur Jr in 1991




...but I also saw Dinosaur jr earlier this year before the Weezer tour, and they do still sound great.

[Suicane75]

Gave a relisten to Caroline Rose: The Art Of Forgetting, yesterday and it's a lot better than I gave it credit for upon my first listen. I think I was expecting a more poppy sound, but it's not that. I cried a lot.

[Ksyrup]

I've got a ton of new music to catch up on. A few I'm listening to on a lazy Friday night with nothing to watch on TV.


New Unto Others! This album is so good, and they continue on a run of great releases. This band is the perfect amalgamation of traditional 80s hard rock crossed with a Sisters of Mercy-like goth sound.

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Native Howl - how about some "thrash grass?" I am absolutely loving all of this dark folk/country/bluegrass I've found in the past couple of years. This is another one.

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Lizzard. Love this band. If I had to compare, I'd say it's like a prog metal version of Incubus - that's the vibe I get from listening to this band.

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[Ghost Econ]

Not really listening to it, but I've heard Green Day's Bobby Sox come on the lone Alt Rock station a couple of times. It's a fine song, but I can't shake that it's the best Weezer song in the last 30 years and makes me sad Rivers forgot how to write fun music.

- YouTube (https://youtu.be/NDjtguZG6iw)

[JonInMiddleGA]

I hate to admit that I really only dove deep into The Native Howl just a few weeks ago.

Some first rate fun to be had in their catalog.

[Ksyrup]

They really are a lot of fun. I believe they are opening for Clutch on their short tour where they (Clutch) are playing the entirety of Blast Tyrant. I would love to see that show, but they are only doing 4 of them.

[Edward64]

Been watching a YT cover band, primarily pre-2000 songs. They are surprisingly good

Middle Aged Dad Jam Band - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@MADJBAND)


Here's one with a guest appearance by Kristen Bell (she's still ... attractive).

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[Ksyrup]

There's some fascinating stuff in this article:

&ldquo;If you had suggested this in 2015, you would have been laughed out of the room&rdquo;: Music is now reportedly bigger than cinema globally | MusicRadar (https://www.musicradar.com/music-industry/if-you-had-suggested-this-in-2015-you-would-have-been-laughed-out-of-the-room-music-is-now-reportedly-bigger-than-cinema-globally)

[Ghost Econ]

Not necessarily what I'm listening to now, but what ends up on my daughter's various playlists is very odd. Most is obviously pop/whatever we're calling this era of hip-hop. But then every now and again a random early/mid-2000s hip hop song pops up and I'm like, where the hell is she hearing this?

Like, I enjoy Youngbloodz Chop Chop, but of all the random 2000s rap songs I would expect her to rap along to, that would be fairly low. She was singing along to the Nappy Rootz the other day.

I don't feel like this dynamic really existed with our parent's music. I was obviously familiar with 60s/70s rock when I was a teen through osmosis, but my musical taste was locked in very specifically to songs coming out during my teen years. I guess with any song at your fingertip now, kids mostly treat music as a flat timeline. Though I don't think there's any 90s alt rock on any of her playlists, so maybe things haven't really changed.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Dunno. I mean, I knew the stuff of the 50s fairly well as a kid (okay, granted, I was probably not exactly an average kid, but still).

[Ksyrup]

Just like social media has increased the odds of more people's opinions being seen/heard more globally being, on balance, a negative (IMO), I feel the same way about this (although what I can't or don't want to hear won't hurt me or the world, so I guess who cares?).


More music released in a single day in 2024 than the whole of 1989, says study (https://www.nme.com/news/music/more-music-released-in-a-single-day-in-2024-than-the-whole-of-1989-says-study-3815719#:~:text=1989%2C%20says%20study-,More%20music%20released%20in%20a%20single%20day%20in%202024,whole%20of%201989%2C%20says%20study&text=There%20are%20more%20songs%20being,1989%2C%20a%20study%20has%20found).

[GrantDawg]

Dunno. I mean, I knew the stuff of the 50s fairly well as a kid (okay, granted, I was probably not exactly an average kid, but still).
Lawrence Welk every Saturday will do that for ya.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Lawrence Welk every Saturday will do that for ya.

Nah, was the old 45s and LPs actually.

"I found my thrill ... "

[Ksyrup]

Farthest back I went as a kid was the Beatles. I don't recall my parents ever listening to anything older than that, even Elvis (that's not to say I didn't hear that, of course, just that it wasn't music my parents played or listened to).

[thesloppy]

I listened to a lot of Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry with my oldies, as a kid

[GrantDawg]

My parents/grandparents listened to old country and bluegrass. A lot of Elvis as well. And the fore mentioned Lawerence Welk was on every Saturday. Right before Hee-Haw if I remember correctly. It would be wrestling, Welk, then Hee-Haw.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Farthest back I went as a kid was the Beatles. I don't recall my parents ever listening to anything older than that, even Elvis (that's not to say I didn't hear that, of course, just that it wasn't music my parents played or listened to).

My parents are now in their mid-80s, so that could (maybe) be an age thing.

[Ksyrup]

My early musical tastes were definitely shaped by the albums I raided from my Dad's collection from about 6-10 years old. Beatles, Beach Boys, Guess Who, David Bowie, and America are the main ones I remember and have stuck with me to today. My first independent purchase (or probably gifted album) was Supertramp's Breakfast In America. I'm thinking that was 78 or 79? Pretty sure that album was before the 80s.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nicko McBrain announces that today will be his final performance as Iron Maiden's touring drummer.

42 years behind the kit, 72 years old, and had to recover from a stroke just to do this final run.

I hate to see it but I certainly understand it.

[Ksyrup]

Just saw that. I ran into him once in Coral Springs close to where he lived and he and his wife had opened a lingerie store and/or restaurant (not combined!) at some point.

[Fidatelo]

I went though several phases of older rock appreciation in my teens. Beach Boys, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, Beatles, and CCR are ones that stick out.

I'd say there are two big changes that impact how my kids discover (or don't) older music:


1) When I heard a Buddy Holly song and thought it rocked, I then dug up whatever albums my parents had and listened to them in totality. Or maybe went and bought some CDs if their catalog was sparse. But I went deep on the whole artist, whereas my kids will just come across a single song by some 90's rapper and then end up hearing "songs like it" from Spotify or whatever so instead of going deep on a single artist they end up listening to a bunch of songs by various artists of a similar vein.


2) Until my later teens we didn't really have walkmans/discmen, and even then we didn't have any other 'devices', which meant when my parents listened to music in the car or at home on the stereo I was quite often hearing them too. Conversely my kids are almost always watching a video or listening to their own music or whatever and ignoring the stuff I'm doing, so they aren't picking up songs through osmosis in that manner.

[NobodyHere]

I didn't see this combination coming. It's even more impressive that Ice T got permission from both to Roger and David to make this song.

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[Ksyrup]

His/their cover of Institutionalized by Suicidal Tendencies is hilarious.

[korme]

Thursday recently released their first 2 new songs in 13 years. This one is so quintessential Thursday, it's so good to have them back.

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[Ksyrup]

Just saw an article about Billboard's EOY top 200 list. According to the article, it's depressing for rock fans because only 29 out of the 200 albums are rock and none of them were released this year.

Then I saw the list, and it got even more depressing because Rumours is first at #34 followed by Elton John's Diamonds at #35. They also included an Abba album. I might buy Fleetwood Mac as rock, but not Elton John or Abba. So, the list of pure rock albums in the top 200 is actually lower than 29.

There are 7 Taylor Swift albums before you get to Fleetwood Mac.

[larrymcg421]

What do you mean by pure rock? I have no idea how you could question Fleetwood Mac as a rock group. Elton John is definitely rock as well.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What do you mean by pure rock? I have no idea how you could question Fleetwood Mac as a rock group. Elton John is definitely rock as well.

Fleetwood Mac might qualify within their era, zero resemblance in a more contemporary era.

Elton John is a definite hard no.

[Ksyrup]

I would classify Elton John as pop. Just because an artist has musicians playing instruments - while that is rare-to-nonexistent today - doesn't make them rock.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I would classify Elton John as pop.

Bingo.

Similarly, a lot of Fleetwood Mac output is really more AC in today's terminology.

[cuervo72]

Nah, was the old 45s and LPs actually.

"I found my thrill ... "

There was one of those 5x5 things a while ago -- pick your five songs each from five artists. Fats Domino came pretty close at the time to making my list.

Little Richard did make my list. As did Aretha Franklin, Wilson Pickett, Stevie Wonder, The Temptations. Were I to do reassess today Wilson might get bumped. Could be Elvis, could be James Brown.* Not really sure. (JB is one of my mom's professed favorites, though I don't remember a lot of it around the house. Elvis was one of her sister's - much younger and closer to my age - favorites. Of course Ozzy, KISS, also rank highly there.)

Growing up I'd say I heard a lot of current airplay, a lot of "classic" rock. Some soul/Motown probably, but maybe not enough to explain my level of love for it. I am not sure where I picked up Chuck Berry, Bill Haley, etc. Probably when a local pop station went oldies.

Of course, I also like 80s, Disco, etc. One of the first songs I put on my kids' devices was "Funkytown." (Which the other day my mom also proclaimed "oh, I like "Funkytown!" Which makes some sense I suppose, she was only 30 when it came out.)

Oh, and Elton is absolutely pop and not rock.


* At other points in time I may have included Glenn Miller, Led Zeppelin, Prince, ZZ Top...

[larrymcg421]

Again, how do you define rock? I would say Fleetwood is unquestionably rock and I don't even know what the term means if you're excluding them. Are we talking hard rock? Or rock as it descended from Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, etc.?

I would say Elton blends pop and rock, and is certainly very distinctly different than a traditional pop artist like Streisand, for example. Both him and Fleetwood Mac are closer to the origins of rock than the narrow definition many people would use for modern rock.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Both him and Fleetwood Mac are closer to the origins of rock than the narrow definition many people would use for modern rock.

None of these have an etched in stone meaning, there's certainly an evolution of them. But with the existence of the term A(dult) C(contemporary) that's where "Dreams" -- their biggest hit -- falls.

[larrymcg421]

Honestly not trying to be combative, I just think the term "rock" is more broad than how you guys are defining it, especially if we trace it from its origins to today. I think all of it qualifies as rock, and was wondering if you guys more meant hard rock or some other more specific subgenre of rock (which is how I would classify AC).

[cuervo72]

Maybe it depends on what Elton. "Saturday Night's Alright" is probably rock, now that I think about it. "Sad Songs" I'm not so sure about. And I like "Sad Songs."

(Or is it some sort of modernized do-wop? I guess it does have drums and a bass in it.)

[JonInMiddleGA]

some other more specific subgenre of rock (which is how I would classify AC).

There's probably the difference, I consider AC a sub-genre more of pop than rock. If anything it's the modern descendent of Easy Listening.

[Ksyrup]

I hope the one thing we can all agree on is that ABBA has no place on a list of rock artists.

[Ksyrup]

I guess we'll just extend 24 into 25.

Anyway, I will see this band live if it's the last thing I do...

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[Ghost Econ]

Watching The Grammys with my daughter.

Sabrina Carpenter looks like a Temu sex doll.

[Lathum]

Just saw Beyonce won for best country duo song and best country album. I'm sure that will sit well with the NASCAR crowd.

[Ghost Econ]

I know the Grammys don't matter, but a song about another artist being a pedophile winning song of the year is wild. And literally having the entire crowd sing along to "a minor." Like how do you come back from literally having the most "important" people in the field all laughing at you. And then it's going to be even worse next week.

I think Trump got his tariff idea after seeing what Kendrick did to Drake.

[Lathum]

I know the Grammys don't matter, but a song about another artist being a pedophile winning song of the year is wild. And literally having the entire crowd sing along to "a minor." Like how do you come back from literally having the most "important" people in the field all laughing at you. And then it's going to be even worse next week.

I think Trump got his tariff idea after seeing what Kendrick did to Drake.

I have no idea what any of this means and honestly I think I am glad I don't.

[Ksyrup]

Same here. I don't watch that crap, but I did see that Gojira won the Metal Grammy, which was beyond obvious that a bunch of stodgy Grammy voters would give it to the band that did the high-profile Olympics performance. Well-deserved, but obvious. I love that a band as heavy as them won a Grammy because without the Olympics tie-in, it would have been another Metallica Grammy.

[Ksyrup]

Amigo the Devil announced a solo US tour a couple of days ago, including a stop in Lexington. I jumped all over that. And, it's on Mother's Day, so it will be a family affair. Caitlin's been to 2 shows with me, Michelle 1, and it will be Mack's first. I think I've seen him 4 or 5 times myself. He's come pretty far - used to play small dive bars, now he's at Lexington Opera House with actual seating, lol. I decided to get orchestra pit seats, 3rd row center.

As much as I like his band, his solo performances are next level. I was afraid once he started a band he'd not give it up, so this is a nice surprise that he's heading out for solo shows like he used to do. And I don't even have to drive more than 20 minutes - absolute no-brainer!

It'll be a relatively busy spring for shows for me - John Waite on 4/5 in Cincy, possibly seeing Dan Spencer the next night in Lexington, Leprous on 4/12 in Cincy, AtD on 5/11 in Lexington, and Joe Gatto on 5/16 in Louisville. And I run a marathon on 5/4 in Cincy in the middle of all of that, too.

[Lathum]

I'll be curious to hear how Gatto is. I love the Jokers, and we met Murr a few months back and he couldn't have been nicer, I just always wonder what their stand up is like.

[Ksyrup]

We saw him once already in Toronto. He was good. Not as good as Sal, but Sal is more of a professional stand-up comedian than the others.

[Lathum]

See that is interesting because I find Sal by far the least funny of them all...

[Ksyrup]

I've heard Sal doing stand-up on the clips they play on the SXM comedy channels, and of course I didn't know who he was until IJ hit it big.

[albionmoonlight]

It has been years since I've gone to a show at a club, but I'm pretty into Uncle Lucius, and I noticed that they are coming to Raleigh next week, so I'll have to find one of my cool t-shirts and not one of my Dad Joke t-shirts and make it out there.

[sovereignstar v2]

Officially obsessed with Khruangbin. They performed at the Grammys the other night and god damn they are my vibe

https://youtu.be/q4xKvHANqjk?si=1nKkhKSoNPmNWvKh

[Ksyrup]

They lost me at "Pitchfork presents..." :D

The background reminds me of the early 70s attempts at performance music videos like Black Sabbath doing Paranoid.

Actually, it's not bad but a little too chill for me. Or at least, I need it to be more of a depressing/sadboi vibe to be the kind of chill music I can listen to for more than a few minutes. Stylistically, this is kinda like if you switched out atmospheric black metal (removed the tremelo distorted guitars and screaming) and replaced it with a jazzy/groovy vibe. In all seriousness, it's kinda similar to this just a totally different vibe:

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It's like Khruangbin are more at home on South Beach and Saor are in the Scottish Highlands.

[sovereignstar v2]

They aren't going to be for everyone. They are certainly helping me after a depressing Manchester City loss and a joint, however

[sovereignstar v2]

I'll raise you some ornamental masks, Ksyrup.

- YouTube (https://youtu.be/E4X56wIOZns?si=QnYsLKW8GF3HLQFK)

[Ksyrup]

Looks and sounds like what would happen if the dude who created Ghost was a Phish fan.

[Edward64]

Going to start listening to some Bon Jovi songs. Pretty cool what he (and woman) did. Check out the video.

Jon Bon Jovi helps talk a woman down from the ledge on Nashville bridge | AP News (https://apnews.com/video/jon-bon-jovi-nashville-music-national-8c8068ff712240489d49b4af02f99074)

More Bon Jovi

Must be nice to have a friend that is a well known performer

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[Ksyrup]

So, we went to see John Waite last night. Phenomenal show, as always. At 72 (soon to be 73), he's aged incredibly well. Still sounds like he did 30 years ago, honestly. His touring guitarist is from Matchbox Twenty. All I know about them is the jokes. Dude looked kinda like Kevin Cronin - short, white hair. I joked to my wife that Waite brought his grandmother on tour as his guitarist. And then I looked him up and saw that he's 4 years younger than me...

Opening was Tommy Tutone - well, Tommy Heath, the main guy from the band. It was just him and a young guy, no other band. He was good, but holy cripes has he aged. He's 78. You can hear that somewhat odd/distinctive voice he has still, but he sounded like a mush-mouthed Neil Young at a slightly lower register. He's pretty active for nearly 80 though - he was talking about a ton of projects and tours he's doing, plus a new album. I found his backstory interesting, which he talked about - for a period, he was a computer analyst and software engineer, but it sounds like he got back into music after retiring from a real job as a way to pass time doing what he loves for the rest of his life.

One other thing that was interesting, and we've seen a few times at some of these nostalgia tours that are performed in theatres in front of mostly geriatrics - a real tension between the people who are like, "This is a rock concert, why are you people sitting?", and most of the crowd who either can't or don't want to stand. There was a dust-up a few songs into Waite's set because 2 guys were standing a few rows in front of us to the side, and the people behind them got increasingly pissed until one of them yelled, "Sit down asshole!" That started a fair bit of back-and-forth between them (separated by about 4-5 rows). I would have stood because that's just, like, what I do at shows, but I didn't unless others around us got up. I definitely get the "rock concert" sentiment, but also, you should be polite when you're literally the only person standing in an entire section.

[Ghost Econ]

I feel like Tomorrow Never Knows is currently my favorite Beatles song.

[JonInMiddleGA]

One other thing that was interesting, and we've seen a few times at some of these nostalgia tours that are performed in theatres in front of mostly geriatrics - a real tension between the people who are like, "This is a rock concert, why are you people sitting?", and most of the crowd who either can't or don't want to stand. There was a dust-up a few songs into Waite's set because 2 guys were standing a few rows in front of us to the side, and the people behind them got increasingly pissed until one of them yelled, "Sit down asshole!" That started a fair bit of back-and-forth between them (separated by about 4-5 rows). I would have stood because that's just, like, what I do at shows, but I didn't unless others around us got up. I definitely get the "rock concert" sentiment, but also, you should be polite when you're literally the only person standing in an entire section.

A key reason that I simply don't go to the "dinner theater" venues. Not sure there's anybody -- alive OR dead -- that'd be enjoyable to me in that sort of environment .

I have really strong feelings about the standing thing and I'd end up criminally charged if anybody decided to take issue with it. And I really don't need to do "held without bond" at this point in life. Suffice to say that anybody that has a problem with folks standing at a rock show would be a mercy killing afaic.

[Ksyrup]

I get the sentiment. I still remember the first time it happened to me, back in HS. I took my then-GF to see Debbie Gibson at 6 Flags and at some point - probably for a ballad or something - the entire crowd sat, and there I was, oblivious to it all, until my GF started tugging at me to sit down. I kind of turned to both sides, looking around, incredulous, but eventually I sat.

I don't mind sitting at certain times, as I understand peoples' limitations. My wife can't stand for very long - when we went to Leprous 2 weeks ago, she stood during the opener but was hurting so bad, she went to the back of the venue and sat in the wheelchair section while I watched from about 10 feet back - so I have some sympathy for people who are unable to stand. And these nostalgia tours are going to bring out a bunch of people who have physical limitations, and they are in seated venues, so it's hard to argue that standing the entire time is expected.

Still, I don't care how old the performer is, rock is rock, and there are times when it feels uncomfortable to be sitting politely while the band is rocking out. It's a little like a bizarro world. I'd love to talk to some performers about how they feel out on stage, giving it their all, while people politely sit on their hands. It wasn't until John Waite ended the show with about 3-4 hits strung together (interestingly and awesomely, all from his Babys years, plus a cover of Whole Lotta Love), that the crowd broke loose and most people stood. The rest of the show, it was more down than up.

[Ghost Econ]

First, did people stand for Missing You, because that seems like the ultimate old person sit down song?

Second, I honestly thought that song was sung by a woman until like a decade ago.

Third, I was flipping through the calendar of the main small music venue in town and saw the name Tantric. It sounded familiar but I couldn't place it, so I went to listen to streaming and immediately remembered a few songs from their album almost 25 years ago. I was "Astounded" that they're still touring, let alone releasing new albums. They seem like a quintessential post-grunge band that should have just disappeared. But then I see bands like Puddle of Mudd, Chevelle, or Godsmack are still making music and I guess there must be this market that I can't fathom.

Also, only the lead singer of Tantric is still in the band. Looking slat their past members, it's like 30 something people long. Kind of like at what point does a boat stop being the original boat, at what point does a band stop being the original band after replacing members?

[Passacaglia]

Pretty cool they've been able to stay up all this time.

[dubb93]

Also, only the lead singer of Tantric is still in the band. Looking slat their past members, it's like 30 something people long. Kind of like at what point does a boat stop being the original boat, at what point does a band stop being the original band after replacing members?

My first thought is that he's probably a real asshole.

[Ksyrup]

First, did people stand for Missing You, because that seems like the ultimate old person sit down song?

Second, I honestly thought that song was sung by a woman until like a decade ago.

Third, I was flipping through the calendar of the main small music venue in town and saw the name Tantric. It sounded familiar but I couldn't place it, so I went to listen to streaming and immediately remembered a few songs from their album almost 25 years ago. I was "Astounded" that they're still touring, let alone releasing new albums. They seem like a quintessential post-grunge band that should have just disappeared. But then I see bands like Puddle of Mudd, Chevelle, or Godsmack are still making music and I guess there must be this market that I can't fathom.

Also, only the lead singer of Tantric is still in the band. Looking slat their past members, it's like 30 something people long. Kind of like at what point does a boat stop being the original boat, at what point does a band stop being the original band after replacing members?

No, and he did that song relatively early in his set.

John Waite has been a favorite of mine since I was a kid. As I really got into music around 8-9 years old, I was a huge Babys fan. He was the lead singer. I'm sure you've probably heard 4-5 of their songs (Back On My Feet Again, Midnight Rendevous, Every Time I Think of You, Isn't It Time, etc.) and probably don't know it. Jonathon Cain was in the Babys for a short period, and left to join Journey. The rest is history there. And of course, the "new" Babys formed in the late 80s with Waite, Ricky Phillips (Babys bassist), Cain and Neal Schon after Steve Perry left Journey. When I See You Smile was a huge hit, but they only lasted 2 albums and they had already broken up by the time the second one was released. He's been doing solo stuff for the past 30+ years. There's a really good, honest documentary of his career out on streaming services called The Hard Way.

Funny thing about Tantric being left with only one founding member - they got started as a band because they were all fired (or quit) Days of the New, which left only Travis Meeks as the sole member of DotN. And after they left, DotN got so much better, honestly. Unfortunately, Travis Meeks has spent much of the past 30+ years in and out of jail, rehab facilities, etc., and hasn't put out an album that I'm aware of since the early 2000s. They even attempted to reunite the original DotN lineup about a decade ago, but Meeks was too drunk to perform and they gave up on him. Pretty sad. The second and third DotN albums are really good and while still the same acoustic guitar-based sound, greatly expanded their sound with all sorts of interesting instruments and arrangements. He's one of my personal "what if" artists who I wished could have gotten his shit together.

Tantric, on the other hand... not a fan. I can see why he didn't want to write music with them, based on what he went on to produce himself versus their output.

[Ksyrup]

Thinking about DotN got me thinking about this song. Last song on the last album he put out. So freaking good.

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[korme]

Matt Berninger's (The National) latest solo single is such an earworm, I haven't stopped listening.

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[Ryche]

First, did people stand for Missing You, because that seems like the ultimate old person sit down song?

Second, I honestly thought that song was sung by a woman until like a decade ago.

Third, I was flipping through the calendar of the main small music venue in town and saw the name Tantric. It sounded familiar but I couldn't place it, so I went to listen to streaming and immediately remembered a few songs from their album almost 25 years ago. I was "Astounded" that they're still touring, let alone releasing new albums. They seem like a quintessential post-grunge band that should have just disappeared. But then I see bands like Puddle of Mudd, Chevelle, or Godsmack are still making music and I guess there must be this market that I can't fathom.

Also, only the lead singer of Tantric is still in the band. Looking slat their past members, it's like 30 something people long. Kind of like at what point does a boat stop being the original boat, at what point does a band stop being the original band after replacing members?

Chevelle and Godsmack are both quite popular still although I believe Godsmack is winding down. Two members announced they were done and the others don't really sound like they are interested in making new albums, at least as Godsmack.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I saw Barry Manilow in concert on Tuesday. He was really good, especially for someone who is turning 82 in a couple of weeks.

Good times!

[korme]

Saw these guys on Thursday (with Laura Jane Grace) for their farewell tour.

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[Ghost Econ]

I was listening to Donovan's Mellow Yellow album and Hampstead Incident came on. It took me a moment, but the song sounds extremely similar to Led Zeppelin's Have I'm Gonna Leave You. I guess it makes sense since it's almost certain that John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page played on that Donovan song.

Also, Taylor Dane's Tell It To My Heart is just a 1.5 speed One You Love by Glenn Frey.

[Passacaglia]

I was listening to Donovan's Mellow Yellow album and Hampstead Incident came on. It took me a moment, but the song sounds extremely similar to Led Zeppelin's Have I'm Gonna Leave You. I guess it makes sense since it's almost certain that John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page played on that Donovan song.

Also, Taylor Dane's Tell It To My Heart is just a 1.5 speed One You Love by Glenn Frey.

Now I have a Taylor Dayne song in my head, but it's "don't rush me" instead of "tell it to my heart" -- weird

[Ksyrup]

Sometimes you just stumble on the most random shit - like Primus covering Dio's Holy Diver with Puddles Pity Party on vocals.

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[Passacaglia]

Anyone listening to Velvet Sundown?

"Indie Rock Band" That&#x27;s Clearly Using AI Claims That "We Never Use AI" (https://futurism.com/indie-rock-band-velvet-sundown-never-use-ai)

[Lathum]

I wasn't sure at first about the "new" Linkin Park but I am ally digging them.

[EagleFan]

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[Ksyrup]

Wife's out of town with her parents, so I spent last night screwing around looking for new music and stumbled on this interesting band called Father Of Peace. Reminds me of an amalgamation of a bunch of different 90s genres - I hear some Jellyfish, alt rock, and even SOAD in this. Pretty damn catchy.

I don't know, maybe I'm just geeked that I've found a fairly new band that actually plays instruments.

Some NSFW stuff here.

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If I didn't know any better and just heard this song without the video, I'd swear it was a long-lost SOAD song or maybe something new they did as a one-off.

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[Ksyrup]

I absolutely love Drumeo/Musora videos where musicians take on songs they've never heard and put their own spin on it. This one may take the cake, though. One of the most absurdly talented group of musicians I've seen. I can't believe how quickly they pulled this together, and killed it!

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[QuikSand]

Last few days I have been trying to sort out Rosalia's Lux and it's fascinating. It's in 13 languages and intimidating as hell, but her vocal ability and the musical compositions are really stunning. I don't know that it's bound to be a "favorite," it's not exactly road trip music or anything, but I know she's doing something really ambitious here. Amazing project.

RosalÃ*a: LUX Album Review | Pitchfork (https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/rosalia-lux/)

[NobodyHere]

Listening to celebrate Afroman's win in his civil defense suit against the Adam County Sherrif's Department

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Which if you haven't read the story then you should. The police raided his house because of some very dubious accusations of drug trafficking and kidnapping.

The police broke his gate, busted his door and did their usual ransacking. This was taped by the home's security system.

So Afroman made a series of videos like the one above mocking the police. The police got butthurt and sued for defamation and infliction of mental distress. And the other day he was acquitted on all the civil charges (there were never any criminal charges) thrown against him.

A great day for the First Amendment.

[Ghost Econ]

Watching The XX on the Coachella stream and my one regret from my daughter doing gymnastics is that I never suggested her coaches use Intro as her floor music.

[HerRealName]

I'm really liking the new album by Greg Freeman.

- YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzwZlmsSFog)

[Ksyrup]

I've been expecting someone to post about Angine de Poitrine. Like a microtonal Frank Zappa meets Primus. Undeniably weird but cool. Or as someone on YT quipped, Slipdot.

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[Ksyrup]

Saw Corrosion of Conformity and Clutch last night. They actually played in Lexington. I felt it was my civic duty to attend. Great show, although CoC's sound system was made for a place 10 times bigger and blew my ears out. Seriously, it was too much. Clutch's sound was spot on - loud but dialed in enough so that you could hear each instrument clearly instead of a wall of sound that shook your ribcage and made it difficult to hear riffs and vocals.

Opening for them was JD Pinkus, better known as the bassist for the Butthole Surfers. Dude was a comedian as much as a musician. Absolutely baked on stage, just him and an electrified banjo. Hilarious.

[Lathum]

Olivia Rodrigo is going on tour. AMEX pre sale tickets go on sale today. We don't use AMWX so aren't eligible. My kids want to go so we thought maybe for an Xmas present. Jumped in the queue just to see how much tickets are going for. I am currently 111,843 in line. Insane.

[Lathum]

Just got in the general queue, not excited to see how much these tickets will cost.

[Lathum]

Sold out and the secondary market is going bananas. Looks like it isn't in the cards kids.

[JPhillips]

My daughter got two tickets with the AMX sale.

[Ghost Econ]

My daughter wanted to get but has other obligations for the nights she's anywhere near us. She's already seen her twice though so she isn't super broken up.

Unrelated, but Salt Shaker by the Ying Yang Twins came across my ears while I was running today. Like most people, I'm familiar with the general sentiment of the song and the various descriptions of women's vaginal secretions mentioned therein.

But I had never really noticed this section as being a combined request as opposed to just thinking of them as separate parts:

"She's leaking! She's soaking wet" (repeat)

AND

"Shake it like a Salt Shaker" (repeat x4)

I always thought of it as, first, this young lady is very excited. And then separately, he is requesting someone, possibly this lady or another, to move her ass in the manner one would use to put salt on French fries.

But as I had nothing else to think about while I ran, I put those two sentiments together and wondered... is he noticing this woman is jucing and wants her to shake her ass so that she can then sprinkle the area with her womanly wetness like she's slopping up some steaks at Truffoni's?

Maybe this was always obvious to everyone else, but this is the first time it's popped into my head in the 20+ years of listening to the song.

[Passacaglia]

My daughter wanted to get but has other obligations for the nights she's anywhere near us. She's already seen her twice though so she isn't super broken up.

Unrelated, but Salt Shaker by the Ying Yang Twins came across my ears while I was running today. Like most people, I'm familiar with the general sentiment of the song and the various descriptions of women's vaginal secretions mentioned therein.

But I had never really noticed this section as being a combined request as opposed to just thinking of them as separate parts:

"She's leaking! She's soaking wet" (repeat)

AND

"Shake it like a Salt Shaker" (repeat x4)

I always thought of it as, first, this young lady is very excited. And then separately, he is requesting someone, possibly this lady or another, to move her ass in the manner one would use to put salt on French fries.

But as I had nothing else to think about while I ran, I put those two sentiments together and wondered... is he noticing this woman is jucing and wants her to shake her ass so that she can then sprinkle the area with her womanly wetness like she's slopping up some steaks at Truffoni's?

Maybe this was always obvious to everyone else, but this is the first time it's popped into my head in the 20+ years of listening to the song.

Feels like it would have been better if the board weren't working today.

[Fidatelo]

Feels like it would have been better if the board weren't working today.
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