Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1573697)

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that saldana and Lathum are Gabriel and Lucifer in some order. I would think that those two roles would be actively campaigning to get rid of the other, and they seem to be the two that have gone at each other from early on.

It might also explain an attack on Lathum, as Lucifer and Gabriel are specifically stated to have powers known only to themselves. No other roles but the cultist specifically say they have hidden powers.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573707)

not quite right? what am i wrong about?

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573712)

I was pertaining as to how the entirity of the situation doth played out.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573685)

I have no solid grasp of who, as of yet. But why? Given that the silence of the novice lent him to have been targeted by the Lord Liege, it just did not feel quite right.

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573713)

so do we know why Path trusts anxiety?

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573718)

Ah, my apologies. I thought you were pertaining to this.

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573713)

so do we know why Path trusts anxiety?

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573720)

It's weird that both of you used 'quite right' in your phrasing.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573707)

not quite right? what am i wrong about?

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573723)

Well, it wouldn't feel quite right if I didn't, now would it?

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573706)

I thought that most of us had hidden powers.

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1566602)

This game has been inspired by Coffee Warlord’s famous Yak game, as well as a game I saw somewhere that involved the idea of building something. Not sure whose that was. I will also say that I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who are of religious belief and am using religion in more of the cultural folklore sense than any literal interpretation.

Introduction
The year is 1350 and the town of St. Saldana has been prosperous for many years. It is now time to take that prosperity and use it to honor God, who has made it all possible by building a cathedral.. This would lack any noteworthiness were it not for the fact that the Devil was in a particular pique one day about all of the church construction, only days before the cathedral was to be completed. Hoping to win favor with the boss, Lucifer has led a crack team of demons to stop this cathedral. Not wanting to see years of piousness go to waste, St. Gabriel has led his own SWAT team of angels to make sure that the years of hard work do not go to waste. And then on top of all this you have the Bishop (the Bishop!) in town to consecrate the church and you have a quite a few hectic days ahead.

Sides and Victory Conditions

Villagers : Win a normal victory by either eradicating the village of demons or by completing the construction of the cathedral. Win a major victory if they complete both.

Angels: Win a major victory if the church is completed. Win a minor victory if the devils are eradicated from the village but the church is not completed.

Demons: Win a normal victory if they prevent the construction of the cathedral by achieving a 1-1 ratio with the villagers, a minor victory if the angels are eradicated, and a major victory if they accomplish both.

Bishop: The Bishop is a revered person in the community, but no one is quite sure whose side he’s on since his rise to the position of power was not completely through sacrosanct means.

Note: The game will end either if there are no Demons left or at the end of the following day after all work on the Cathedral is complete (so if all work is done by the end of Day 3, the Cathedral must still have no work left at the end of Day 4).

Cycles
Day Cycle – During the day cycle players can do two things: vote and work on the cathedral. A player may do 2 of one thing, or 1 of each.

A vote should be at the end of a post, bolded, and in the color orange, so it looks like this:

Votes not properly formatted may be missed.

Once a player works on the Cathedral they may not change where they are working.

Once a player votes they may unvote and choose a different player to vote for but they may not work on the Cathederal.

A player may do two actions in one post. Each action should be listed separately. If voting for a player twice, vote on separate lines.
Day Cycles begin approximately 8 AM Eastern and last until 10 PM Eastern. Players may choose to PM the moderator with an advance action if they’re unavailable during the Day Cycle. The player with the most votes will be lynched, and removed from the game.

Ties: In the event of two players having an equal amount of votes at the end of the day, the player whose average vote has been on the longest (determined by post #) will be lynched. In the event of this being equal, the player with the longest held vote will be lynched.

Night Cycle – Lasts from 10 PM Eastern to 7 AM Eastern. During this time anyone who has a night action may submit it.

Each night the Demons will have the option of either killing a player or having two demons sabotage the Cathedral and attempt to damage it. They may sabotage the same place twice or two separate places. The Demons cannot do the same night action more than two days in a row.

The order to the Night Cycle actions are not publicly known due to the hidden nature of powers in the game.

Roles

Villagers
All players will have a public role. Not all roles have a special power or ability. Angels/devils may get to keep the power of their public role. There is the standard Duke, Bodyguard, Seer. There will also be a cultist who appears to the seer to be a villager, and counts as a villager for ration purposes, but wins with the Demons. He has other abilities.

Demons
This is a list of possible Demon roles. Only Lucifer is guaranteed to be in the game. Demons are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

Lucifer – The head Devil. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from St. Gabriel, but equally he knows the identity of St. Gabriel. He will, however, appear as a villager if scanned by the seer. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who St. Gabriel is posing as, even to the other Demons. He may freely communicate with St. Gabriel (cc’ing the GM). Lucifer also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Azazel – Brutal wolf. If lynched he will be able to kill another player. If killed at night he will kill the player attacking him before he dies.

Beelzebub – Any night attempt at sabotage is guaranteed to succeed and will cause double damage to that area. If blocked by Michah, he will only cause normal damage.

Leviathan – Once per game he may make a night kill which cannot be blocked. If the bodyguard is present, the bodyguard will learn the identity of the Leviathan.

Henchman – No special powers.

Angels
This is a list of possible Angels roles. Only St. Gabriel is guaranteed to be in the game. Angels are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

St. Gabriel – The head Angel. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from Lucifer, but equally he knows the identity of Lucifer. He will always appear as a villager if scanned. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who Lucifer is posing as, even to the other Angels. He may freely communicate with Lucifer (cc’ing the GM). Gabriel also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Elijah – Once per game may designate a player (non-Angel) who cannot be killed or lynched for the next 3 cycles (beginning with that cycle).

Michah – May designate an area to be safe from wolf sabotage each night.

Rhamiel – May scan a player each night to attempt to learn the details of their powers.

Uriel – Every other day may do twice as much work as normal on the Cathedral.

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1573733)

I am Gabriel. We need to lynch a demon today.


VOTE ANXIETY

I will say with near certainty that Alan T and Lathum are villagers. I also know that path12 was lying on day 1 - but, I don't know why. He may be a villager.

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1573746)

I am constrained by our Creator from identifying Lucifer by name.

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1573747)

Just like you to swing first when there was no need to. I cannot say what st. cronin is or is not, but I can tell you that I am Gabriel. Not him.

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573749)

so are you allowed to vote for Lucifer?

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1573747)

Just like you to swing first when there was no need to. I cannot say what st. cronin is or is not, but I can tell you that I am Gabriel. Not him.

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1573752)

This was a poor play on your part. It would have been more believable for the village coming from path12, or perhaps Schmidty?

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1573762)

Neon, who is the Monk?

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1573756)

At any rate, your attempts to out others will fail. Nice try though. Oh, by the way, did you and the Bishoip make the allience you were talking about in our pms?

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573777)

why would he share any information/ strategies with you?

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573785)

The sign has been shown to me. I have been mistaken.

I was blinded by someone who I assumed to be St.Gabriel. It appears I have been decieved.

You, sir, are not Gabriel.

Vote st.cronin

Vote st.cronin

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1573784)

He told me he was thinkinf of killing you on teh first night. TO be fair, i shared misinformation and true information bottle dtogether with him, I sexpect he did the same back.

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573791)

I;m not sure I buy this.

Cronin is always suspiscous of me as a wold and knows many other people are as well. If he were a demon I would think he would want to keep me around.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573795)

It may come as a shock to all of you. I can only reveal my information until the word has been truly spoken.

"Ni!"

I am the Bishop. I have the ability to send prayers to Gabriel at night. Lucifer invades my dreams, as well. I have asked for nothing more but the sacred word to be spoken to show who they truly are... and it seems that Lucifer has been reading into my dreams... but apparently, he cannot read all of them.

I thought that he invoked the word when he called me 'Ni'on_Chaos... but apparently, I was mistaken.

Bring forth the wrath of the demons... I am ready.

I have been bound by our lord to not speak of this until the word has been spoken true. "Ni!"

I am to lead man to victory true... not a minor one. The cathedral must be built, AND the demons must be vanquished. That is my objective.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573795)

It may come as a shock to all of you. I can only reveal my information until the word has been truly spoken.

"Ni!"

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573816)

I need a reason to vote St. Cronin.

In normal english

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1573806)

Do you know if there was a chance both Gabriel and Lucifer could have known the word?

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573816)

I need a reason to vote St. Cronin.

In normal english

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573829)

Thats pretty flimsy.

It seems to me they both used to codeword

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573833)

Can I just point out that before everyone starts firing off votes we still need to work on the cathedral

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1573732)

The way I read this is that only angels or demons are going to have any extra/hidden powers. The rest of us have one or none based on our public role.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573826)

:rolleyes:

I gave Gabriel a codeword through my prayer. "Ni!".

st.cronin used this when he called me "Nion_Chaos".

But Anxiety used the entire codeword. "Ni!". With the exclamation point and all.

I don't know what these two are up to. But I will have to take the side of the guy who gave me the correct format of the codeword.

Besides, with all the hoopla about the reveal, you would think that Gabriel would have asked for the support of the one guy who could confirm who he was that isn't an angel, right? The bishop is that guy, and Anxiety was the first one to use the codeword.

Either way, we lynch Lucifer today or tomorrow.

I believe that Lucifer is st.cronin.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573839)

:rolleyes: Coming from the guy who shot his wad early today.

We're practically going to get Lucifer today or tomorrow. I am hopeful that it's today. I'm probably dying tonight, unless I get lucky and for some reason I get saved. As long as the villagers win a major victory, I win as well.

If we nail Lucifer today, the villagers/angels can then organize to build the cathedral and lynch the demons in accordance tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573833)

Can I just point out that before everyone starts firing off votes we still need to work on the cathedral

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573847)

Who would you say has been putting the most work into the cathedral now?

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573851)

now meaning today or now meaning the whole game?

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573845)

Neon -- when did you make that prayer with the codeword?

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573853)

off the top of my head I would say PerdueBrad has done the most work

why do you ask?

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573855)

I'm just trying to garner a little trust while waiting for NC to answer my question.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573854)

The very first night.

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573856)

you just moved up a notch on my distrust list

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573861)

that's cool -- i'm looking for trust from other people besides you, anyway

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573861)

that's cool -- i'm looking for trust from other people besides you, anyway

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573867)

and IMO trying to gain trust by doing the most work on the Cathedral publicly really means nothing. It is actualy a good way to hide by not voting anyone and steering clear of voting patterns when we do nail a demon.

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 1573870)

Pass, again, let me say, I'm not implying that you are going to sabotage the cathedral (or that I am!), but doubling up just makes sense. I appreciate you didn't take it that way earlier and hope you don't now. You've done a lot of work so that does help you in my trust although I'm still struggling on my personal COT.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573858)

So before cronin gave the signal, I assume? All I saw was that his message was a long time ago. Anxiety's message came three days later, and cronin's came how much later?

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1573867)

and IMO trying to gain trust by doing the most work on the Cathedral publicly really means nothing. It is actualy a good way to hide by not voting anyone and steering clear of voting patterns when we do nail a demon.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573874)

Yes, it was before cronin gave the signal.

Cronin used it earlier thank Anxiety, and I picked up on it, assuming that he was Gabriel.

I know it's a flip of a coin, but Anxiety did give the correct codeword.

Looking back at the posts and voting history, I'm basing it on the fact that st.cronin was among those who voted off Chief Rum as well, and Anxiety actually used his 2 votes to work on the cathedral that day (an angel's major victory objective)... I am led to believe that st.cronin is Lucifer.

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 1573878)

I agree with you here Lathum, which is why I have not played the "how much work have I done card" but instead stand by my role in lessening the overnight damage. This didn't bother me much about Pass although the implication of what he's trying to draw out with his question is an interesting angle.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573880)

The implication is what half of you have figured out anyway. I am Michah.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573882)

And obviously, cronin is Gabriel.

Look at my posts. I've been a freaking cheerleader for this damn cathedral -- which is the angel's victory condition before the villagers. I don't care about killing demons -- in fact if that happens before the cathedral is built, we don't get our major victory.

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 1573885)

Okay Pass, I appreciate the fact that you have answered my question in advance, hehe. I was wondering why the work to garner trust now since you weren't in any of the votes but thank you for connecting those dots. It struck me as odd was all but if this is true, I get it.

So hopefully you can help us big time tonight with your Michah powers as I'll just continue to work my specialty.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573886)

Oh great. Fucking reveals everywhere.

I feel that we are at an end game on the Demon side, which is why I was afraid a demon might come out and claim themselves to be an angel, if only to save Lucifer and win this game.

I'm not saying you're not who you say you are, but there is too much at stake to change my vote right now.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1573890)

That's because you have different victory conditions from the villagers. Your unwillingness to change your vote says a lot about what those conditions are.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1573894)

Haven't I been clear enough on what my conditions are? They're not as different.

I can't allow the villagers to win a minor victory. (Which is a major victory to angels).

The villagers MUST win a major victory for me to win as well.