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Lathum 01-06-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3321340)
Whoa. Some Capitol Hill buildings are evacuating due to Trumpers pushing forward to breach the building.


What’s the end result here? Does it escalate to the point of violence and appropriate response?

Lathum 01-06-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3321344)
Also going with the both sides argument.


Yeah. He started good but fell back in line with the poor victim Trump line.

molson 01-06-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3321338)
Was in a meeting at 1pm, so I missed it. I guess the good news is that they're already doing the debates on the objections, so at some point in the next 2 hours this nonsense will end.


Isn't this just the first state? (Arizona). I thought they had to stop and debate every time.

Lathum 01-06-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3321349)
Isn't this just the first state? (Arizona). I thought they had to stop and debate every time.


They do unless cnn is wrong. Going to be a long wait.

Ben E Lou 01-06-2021 12:51 PM

Oh good gracious. That is insane.

kingfc22 01-06-2021 12:51 PM

Ted Cruz spouting random numbers.

Lathum 01-06-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3321352)
Ted Cruz spouting random numbers.


He’s insane. Let’s say they did do a 10 day emergency committee and it came back no fraud. The goal posts would just move again.

whomario 01-06-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3321353)
He’s insane. Let’s say they did do a 10 day emergency committee and it came back no fraud. The goal posts would just move again.


Not sure if anybody even remembers at this point, but it wouldn't even be the first Trumpian voter fraud commission that went away with a whimper when there were no bangs to be found.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/u...ommission.html

Quote:

President Trump on Wednesday abruptly shut down a White House commission he had charged with investigating voter fraud, ending a brief quest for evidence of election theft that generated lawsuits, outrage and some scholarly testimony, but no real evidence that American elections are corrupt.

(...)

In fact, no state has uncovered significant evidence to support the president’s claim, and election officials, including many Republicans, have strongly rejected it.

Mr. Trump established the commission after his repeated insistence, without credible evidence, that widespread voter fraud explained how Hillary Clinton received about 2.9 million more votes while he won the presidency in the Electoral College.



AlexB 01-06-2021 01:08 PM

I’ve found CNN on my TV: I don’t know the players very very well, but Pennsylvania’s Senator Toomey spoke very well.

kingfc22 01-06-2021 01:17 PM

So how long until somebody gets killed today.

Lathum 01-06-2021 01:19 PM

I feel like I am watching the opening scene in Argo

bronconick 01-06-2021 01:20 PM

They need to break out the tear gas. This is stupid.

Butter 01-06-2021 01:21 PM

Fuck that, they need to break out the live ammo

AlexB 01-06-2021 01:22 PM

Yeah, looks like there is no way this ends peacefully

sterlingice 01-06-2021 01:23 PM

I guess capitol police ran out of tear gas and rubber bullets in the summer

Or maybe the crowd is below the required melanin content

SI

Lathum 01-06-2021 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 3321363)
Fuck that, they need to break out the live ammo


yeah. This isn't a car dealership or a best buy. They are literally trying to breach the capitol building.

Wonder what would happen if they were Muslims?

AlexB 01-06-2021 01:24 PM

On the the steps is one thing, inside the building is another - those inside need to be treated like they are carrying out a terrorist attack

sterlingice 01-06-2021 01:24 PM

I think there's a real risk that if the police started opening fire, the crowd would as well.

I'm not sure how this ends well.

SI

Ksyrup 01-06-2021 01:26 PM

This is the MAGA Super Bowl. They're more stoked about this than if Trump won and they went to the inauguration.

ISiddiqui 01-06-2021 01:28 PM

Imagine a BLM protest getting this far up the building and the chambers?

And now both chambers are in recess and a result of this attempted coup.

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Ghost Econ 01-06-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3321370)
Imagine a BLM protest getting this far up the building and the chambers?

And now both chambers are in recess and a result of this attempted coup.

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That would mean they had to step over a lot of dead black bodies.

sterlingice 01-06-2021 01:29 PM

https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/sta...99817625227269

Mike Pence whisked away

SI

Radii 01-06-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3321370)
Imagine a BLM protest getting this far up the building and the chambers?


Honestly this is all I can think about watching this.

Ghost Econ 01-06-2021 01:31 PM

Can't have a new President if they can't certify him.

360D chess

JPhillips 01-06-2021 01:33 PM

Can we call it a coup now?

sterlingice 01-06-2021 01:34 PM

Capitol breached:
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status...98433689399297

SI

miami_fan 01-06-2021 01:34 PM

It is ALMOST like the incident at the Michigan state capitol set a precedent.

RainMaker 01-06-2021 01:35 PM

No tear gas? Odd who gets that treatment.

ISiddiqui 01-06-2021 01:39 PM

They are attempting a fucking coup. Senate and House evacuated. Thanks Trump for making us look like a banana republic.

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Jas_lov 01-06-2021 01:43 PM

Everyone involved in the attempted coup should be arrested and tried for treason.

Butter 01-06-2021 01:43 PM

Clear them the fuck out by any means necessary and get back to work. The GOP caused all this and frankly they need to be out there getting these people out.

I. J. Reilly 01-06-2021 01:44 PM

Trump Jr. trying to be the voice of reason, didn't see that coming.

JediKooter 01-06-2021 01:45 PM

All I see is a bunch of thugs attempting a coup.

GrantDawg 01-06-2021 01:45 PM

My heart is truly and completely broken. How could they have not been prepared for this? I knew the protesters where going try this, how the hot hell did our security forces?

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CrimsonFox 01-06-2021 01:47 PM

The building probably burns today

Ben E Lou 01-06-2021 01:50 PM

The certification is required by law on January 6th. If they can't certify today, what happens...

sterlingice 01-06-2021 01:50 PM

CNN reporting there's an armed standoff between capitol police and an armed nut (my words not theirs) outside the congressional chambers

SI

Ksyrup 01-06-2021 01:51 PM

Holy shit


Butter 01-06-2021 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3321391)
The certification is required by law on January 6th. If they can't certify today, what happens...


In case of armed insurrection, I think you get an extra day's grace period. Maybe it's just me

bronconick 01-06-2021 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3321388)
My heart is truly and completely broken. How could they have not been prepared for this? I knew the protesters where going try this, how the hot hell did our security forces?

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A bunch of cops probably support it so

JediKooter 01-06-2021 01:53 PM

Don't these people have jobs?

Butter 01-06-2021 01:53 PM

I've never seen such a clear-cut act of sedition than giving a speech and telling people to take it to the Capitol building, and then THEY DO in an attempt to halt the presidential certification. Trump should be impeached and arrested, pronto

Autumn 01-06-2021 01:55 PM

Must be why he just tweeted for them to keep it peaceful.

Butter 01-06-2021 01:55 PM

Too fucking late, dildo

To be clear: Trump is the dildo

Qwikshot 01-06-2021 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 3321399)
Too fucking late, dildo

To be clear: Trump is the dildo


He and his shit turd children need to be arrested

JediKooter 01-06-2021 01:58 PM

Thankfully most of them aren't wearing masks, so should be able to identify them and charge them.

Autumn 01-06-2021 02:00 PM

But will they? They didn't bother stopping them from doing it in the first place.

JPhillips 01-06-2021 02:00 PM

I think there's a real risk that some people will decide they're already in trouble, so what the hell, let's start hurting folks.

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:01 PM

"There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen"

SI

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:01 PM


JediKooter 01-06-2021 02:01 PM

My thinking is, since they are on federal property, the feds will be the ones doing it, which will soon be run by a democrat AG. Not sure if that's how it really works though.

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3321403)
I think there's a real risk that some people will decide they're already in trouble, so what the hell, let's start hurting folks.


And I suspect some came armed, looking for a fight

SI

JPhillips 01-06-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3321396)
Don't these people have jobs?


What's going on in white neighborhoods?

Ben E Lou 01-06-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 3321394)
In case of armed insurrection, I think you get an extra day's grace period. Maybe it's just me

I'm specifically thinking about the utter gridlock that could occur if they can't reach an agreement on when to certify. I'm hoping that it's enumerated. If not....

JPhillips 01-06-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3321409)
I'm specifically thinking about the utter gridlock that could occur if they can't reach an agreement on when to certify. I'm hoping that it's enumerated. If not....


It would come down to what the courts say.

JediKooter 01-06-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3321408)
What's going on in white neighborhoods?


A bunch of entitlement?

kingfc22 01-06-2021 02:06 PM

MSNBC caught an image of a woman bleeding profusely from her neck, upper torso coming out of the Capitol...

miami_fan 01-06-2021 02:07 PM

I just decided to repurpose this from the other thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3278934)
I am impressed by the level of empathy these protesters are getting in this case. I am disturbed by the way law enforcement personnel don’t seem to be following standard procedures for aggressive acting protesters. I was always told the standard procedures were a bit different when other widely discussed protests are brought. Maybe they are not aggressive at all and it is just my bias.


Flasch186 01-06-2021 02:07 PM

DOD just denied a request by DC for Natl Guard troops.

kingfc22 01-06-2021 02:08 PM

Where is the US Military and why are they not clearing the Capitol.

I guess if you want to attack the US Government moving forward, just send a bunch of white folks waving flags and you can waltz right in.

bhlloy 01-06-2021 02:08 PM

Trump has killed the USA and everything it stood for. There is no coming back from this and things will never be the same.

Jas_lov 01-06-2021 02:09 PM

They're inside the house and senate chambers. Scary what's happening to this country.

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3321416)
Where is the US Military and why are they not clearing the Capitol.

I guess if you want to attack the US Government moving forward, just send a bunch of white folks waving flags and you can waltz right in.


You probably don't want martial law involved here, but then again there's this:



SI

JediKooter 01-06-2021 02:12 PM

I didn't like it when Hilary supporters did this in 2016 and I don't...oh wait...

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:13 PM

So, what happens with the certification? Clearly the whole building will have to be sanitized.

Jas_lov 01-06-2021 02:15 PM

Trump just tweeted they are the party of law and order. They can never claim that ever again.

JediKooter 01-06-2021 02:18 PM

This is how the Terran Empire in the mirror universe in Star Trek began, isn't it?

JPhillips 01-06-2021 02:18 PM

But the judges.

miami_fan 01-06-2021 02:18 PM


Ksyrup 01-06-2021 02:20 PM

There's video of someone being stretchered out.

Atocep 01-06-2021 02:20 PM

This is absolutely awful and unacceptable but is also the fastest way for Trumpism to die. Trump tweeting out pleading for them to be peaceful and support the police shows he knows he made a massive mistake.

Ksyrup 01-06-2021 02:22 PM

"We'll get back to you in 5 business days"


BYU 14 01-06-2021 02:22 PM

you got what you asked for America, congratulations!

Qwikshot 01-06-2021 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3321429)
This is absolutely awful and unacceptable but is also the fastest way for Trumpism to die. Trump tweeting out pleading for them to be peaceful and support the police shows he knows he made a massive mistake.


You are giving him too much credit for intelligence, he's a stupid dangerous man.

AlexB 01-06-2021 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3321421)
So, what happens with the certification? Clearly the whole building will have to be sanitized.


Forget sanitised, it’ll have to be swept for explosives

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:23 PM

When I told one of my apolitical coworkers what is going on, he said "just another day on the farm; 3 ring circus" like this is just a normal day at the office.

So many people are so desensitized to not realize this is what those days we read about in history books actually look like.

SI

RainMaker 01-06-2021 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3321388)
My heart is truly and completely broken. How could they have not been prepared for this? I knew the protesters where going try this, how the hot hell did our security forces?

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Because police are on their side?

AlexB 01-06-2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3321431)
"We'll get back to you in 5 business days"



They can see people in army fatigues using a riot shield to break the windows of the Capitol, someone’s been shot, and they’re worried about optics?

JPhillips 01-06-2021 02:27 PM

This is why the Pentagon leadership was changed.

MIJB#19 01-06-2021 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3321381)
They are attempting a fucking coup. Senate and House evacuated. Thanks Trump for making us look like a banana republic.

The USA already had turned into looking like an East European country for the past 3 1/2 years, this just confirms it in a way. Except that the wrong crowd is trying to get rid of the wrong person.

thesloppy 01-06-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3321436)
When I told one of my apolitical coworkers what is going on, he said "just another day on the farm; 3 ring circus" like this is just a normal day at the office.

So many people are so desensitized to not realize this is what those days we read about in history books actually look like.

SI



I have a friend that just texted about how he hates seeing the amateurs from both sides ruining politics.:(

Butter 01-06-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3321439)
This is why the Pentagon leadership was changed.


Yes

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3321388)
My heart is truly and completely broken. How could they have not been prepared for this? I knew the protesters where going try this, how the hot hell did our security forces?

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It's almost as if "some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses". I don't even like RatM.

SI

Ghost Econ 01-06-2021 02:31 PM

It's almost amusing Ben didn't see this as an option to lost 5 months ago.

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:35 PM

25th Amendment time. How can ANY senator advocate for Trump after this ( yes I am being naïve)

Ksyrup 01-06-2021 02:39 PM

What good would 25th Amendment do? He's out in 2 weeks and doing it would escalate the protest/violence. What practical effect would it have? Seriously. They only listen to one person. Pence just stabbed them in the back - they gonna listen to him tell them the election's over and go home? I don't get it.

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3321450)
What good would 25th Amendment do? He's out in 2 weeks and doing it would escalate the protest/violence. What practical effect would it have? Seriously. They only listen to one person. Pence just stabbed them in the back - they gonna listen to him tell them the election's over and go home? I don't get it.


He can not spend another second in power after this.

Qwikshot 01-06-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3321451)
He can not spend another second in power after this.


He needs to be in prison...along with these terrorists right now...

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:40 PM

You think Susan Collins still thinks he learned his lesson?

bronconick 01-06-2021 02:41 PM

You have to impeach and convict, since it bans him from ever holding federal office again.

Ksyrup 01-06-2021 02:45 PM


Qwikshot 01-06-2021 02:45 PM

They need to start cracking skulls

Jas_lov 01-06-2021 02:47 PM

Yes. Impeach, convict, charge him with crimes. Force Republicans to defend an attempted coup in impeachment hearings if they still choose to defend him.

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:47 PM

From a sports betting twitter account I follow


Radii 01-06-2021 02:47 PM

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346920198461419520

Atocep 01-06-2021 02:51 PM

This event will be toxic as hell politically 4 years from now. Ted Cruz and others lilely lost their gamble.

Kodos 01-06-2021 02:52 PM

There better be a ton of jail time coming to people who are doing this.

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 3321459)


Gee, I wonder how they got in?!?

SI

sterlingice 01-06-2021 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3321461)
There better be a ton of jail time coming to people who are doing this.


Merrick Garland going to have a lot to do

SI

Lathum 01-06-2021 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3321460)
This event will be toxic as hell politically 4 years from now. Ted Cruz and others lilely lost their gamble.


I was just texting with my BIL something similar. Anyone tied to Trump is dead. These scenes will be all over any political ad for years.


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