Being in the 2nd tier of conferences requires consistent postseason success to have a prestige in the 80s. If anyone wants to take a look at the prestige levels of teams in the 4 prestige conferences(A10,CUSA,Horizon,MVC,MWC,WAC) and provide feedback I'm open for discussion. In my current testing round I found this Utah State team


I think I'd like to see their prestige be a few points higher. Thoughts?

Up to 85 or 87, maybe. But 80 is a somewhat logical maximum for a team in a conference that's 4/5ths of a 5* conference, roughly speaking.

Of course, getting around these maxima is half the fun of conference movement and conference prestige changes (my favorite)!

Yea. At first glance having one point less after all that success seems odd but would a prestige 88+ team in a 4* conference create a big imbalance?

This is a very interesting questions, with really only 1 real life comparison that I can think of: UNLV back in the day. Has there been a non-BCS conference team make the final 4 multiple times and win a title?

Obviously there was no BCS back then, but there were still the 'Big 6' conferences, right?

UNLV easily eclipsed the 80 prestige highwater mark for a 4 star conference. They were as prestigious as any team ever was for a 5-7 year period of time.

dola...

I wonder if these 4 star conference teams can get a special prestige boost if they do something like what UNLV did, but also get a special prestige demotion, so to speak, after their peak...

Where would you rank a Gonzaga right now(or maybe i should say 4-5 years ago huh?), or Memphis before Calipari stuck the Tigers with a cheating scandal? Or Temple during the Cheney years? No titles but I'd think a prestige worthy of the top 3rd of most big 6 conferences consistently. Maybe 85-90 as a reasonable ceiling unless you can pull in some national titles?

I like this idea a lot if it can be implemented well.

I wouldn't rank any of those teams much over an 80. Memphis was the only team to make a Final 4, and it was a very short period of time where they were really good. Actually, up until that Final 4 year, I recall many questioning whether they even deserved a 1 seed because of who they played, which implied there were still questions as to how good they could be. Gonzaga had like 2 good years and somehow have developed a nice program out of that, but they would have peaked with an 80 prestige a few years ago at best.

Temple is interesting because of such a long stretch of great team. I totally forgot about them when thinking about my initial post, but never reaching a final four is a big mark against them, IMO.

Dawgfan or Groundhog, could you zip me up another batch. I downloaded the ones here and it says the file is corrupt.

I had to go look up Temple's history, because I remember them being so close so many times, but after looking, they did make 3 elite 8's in a 5 year span from 88-93 and 5 elite 8s in a 15ish year span to close out the 90s. But they were only a top 4 seed 3 times during that stretch. They made tourney runs as a 7 seed, 11 seed, etc, quite a bit. So they're probably the lowest of the ones I was thinking of.

The board keeps running into errors when I try to upload that file. Let me head over to Brian's site and see if I can upload them there...

I have to play my conference schools so partly. My out of conference schedule is usually me going something like 8-4 with some tough schools. My RPI is usually in the top 30 every year. (except the years I don't make it)

Prestige is nebulous, in reality. Look at Butler. Last year made the championship game, this year no bid. Back to obscurity. Some schools like Memphis (State) make a final, then drop back and rise again.

I think the 'let's see you do it again' popular view of small schools is reflected in FBCB2 the way it works today. It is damn hard to improve your reputation and keep it up in the Atlantic10.

Plus there are 'upset special' teams like Princeton and Richmond that get lots of talk becasue of their famous early round upsets over the years. I know kids go to Richmond because of that aspect of the school's history. Adding a bump for knocking off a top (1 or 2) seed and then having it diminish might work. Say a three year bump of +3, +2, +1 back to zero.

Also, schools like Gonzaga will always be regional. That is, Pacific NW fans will always feel Gonzaga is underrated, while here on the East Coast fans think Gonzaga is perennially overrated by the media to appease West Coast fans. You can't really model those two biases, nor would it add to the game.

Two questions, don't feel like reading through 25 pages. Is there any way to ask the AD for additional resources (I think I remember this being in the original, though I could be thinking of a different game). Also, what is the significance of the colored icons next to each player? Thanks.

FBCB 2.0 removed the aspect where a coach has to ask; now, the AD will give you the additional resources at the appropriate time.

There is an in-game email explaining the significance of the colors, but I'll paraphrase... each player has two ratings. The left-hand colored rating is the player's current ability, while the right-hand colored rating is that player's potential. The colors themselves are on a 1-5 scale, improving from Red to Orange to Yellow to Green to Blue.

I'd agree with this premise. Seems like there are really 2 types of prestige - true national power prestige where even if the program has some down years, they are still going to be a school that people talk about and kids want to play for, and current program performance prestige that is far more year to year and based on the results on the floor. I like the idea that a mid major should be able to get it's prestige among the elite but any fall off would be much quicker than a true major conference team, and I'd say on the flipside that a national power should also be able to lose a lot of prestige if they suck for long enough, but a couple of tourney appearances and their prestige should be going through the roof again.

In your specific example, Utah State should almost definitely be higher than an 80, but it should also be much easier for them to "fall off the map" unless they move to a major conference.

Hey muns, still waiting on my confirmation mail to join the FBCB board. If you need the files sooner, shoot me a PM with your e-mail and I'll send them directly...

I just manually activated you Dawgfan.

If anyone would like to try out the option to add/delete conferences in an active league:

http://www.fbbgames.com/FBCB2010v2118.exe

As always when editing the league make a backup copy of your league first in case something goes wrong.

Thanks Brian. Does your board software allow you to upload files? If not, I'll connect with muns via PM and just e-mail him the logos...

I just sent ya a PM bud! Really appreciate the help!

I'll try this when I get home tonight. So stoked to see this. :)

is it just me or are there players too easily declaring for the draft ? I just had another junior declare for the draft and go undrafted ( i believe that´s the 4th player in 5 years that´s happened with juniors and sophomores), i´m at 58 prestige in the WCC right now and the guys in question were all 3 star prospects. The current one is a 6´9 Center that averaged 9/9 on 45% shooting as a junior with no shotblocking or really any defensive abilities.

I've had a few guys leave early that didn't do squat for me on the court, but had high athletic ratings and blue potential. I recall probably one or two that ended up undrafted, though I can certainly recall a few players like that from Washington where that actually happened.

While there are times I feel like there are guys leaving early that shouldn't, I've also had a number of very talented, productive players that never even showed up on the mock draft lists and stayed all four years, so I guess in general I don't feel cheated.

Although, I was pissed last night when I had a freshman lottery prospect with 75 academics get academically suspended in January for the remainder of the season, effectively tanking my team's NCAA hopes and then declaring for the draft - clearly the jerk saw his draft rankings and said "fuck going to class!"
;)

Well....came up short again...really had an unbelievable team my latest season. Just like I thought it would be. Fell short of the final four again though. This time ousted by UNC 110-98. (59-56 at the half!) My team averaged 91 points on the season, giving up 78 a game. Finish 32-6 with a 14-2 conference record, winning the title and the tournament title. Sad to see this squad go. Lose three great seniors and a juco player that leaves as a junior. Going to fall off quite a bit after that group.

Three of them get drafted by the NBA in the 2nd round. Prestige goes from 72 to a 75 so I'm pleased with that upping.

yea that 3 point jump is good, as it should be. The only thing I dont want to see is if you fall back and have a few 22-25 win seasons in a row and it falls back to 72-70. I disagree with that, I think at 75 if you continue at the 22-24 win mark a few years it should stay or go up to 77 or so.

Awesome, thanks Brian. I'm still a ways off the offseason in my current game, but glad I can create the Great West Conference now.

See to me, you can't go by total wins. It's all about postseason success and sustained level of it.

Here come the historic mods... :D

Which reminds me... shot clock customization? 35 seconds / 45 seconds / none at all?

also... support for conferences of 5 or 6 teams.

There already is 6 team conference support. For example, the Empire Conference in my Zeroed Out dynasty has 6 teams.

Good to know. I seemed to remember that the game imposed a minimum of 12 conference games and a maximum of a double round-robin. I'd be glad to be wrong on that count.

Actually I'm just now tinkering around in the Zeroed Out dynasty and it's screaming at me to have my 6 team conferences be 7 members. But I've done it without issue before.

Oh, one thing I'm curious about, HR. If I delete a conference, does that conference's history and records and all that get lost, too?

At the moment yes. That is kind of a requirement for the way the game works right now. It would take quite a few more code changes to support leaving them in the game but not having them be active.

Fair enough. That's what I figured but wanted to check. Thanks. :)

I can confirm that the game currently isn't supposed to allow 6 team conferences but it was on my list.

Is there the possibility of adding schools along the way? Say if we wanted to do a somewhat accurate representation of college hoops throughout history...are we able to achieve that? Or are we locked into the 340 teams (or whatever the number is)?

Additionally, would there be a possibility to have a NCAA tourney that has only the champions of the league, like the sixties and seventies? It would be interesting to have the NIT be worth something, and mimic old-time basketball. It'd actually go perfectly in line with a dynasty I'm planning...hopefully there's a shot for any of this sometime in the future.

Adding teams to the active league has always been possible with this version.

I'd say that making the tourney code be flexible enough to take essentially any number of teams would be a ways off if it did happen.

Fair enough...I figured it would be. Thank you.

One bug I've noticed is in the default and current league editor. This only seems to happen when I sort the teams by conference. When editing a team that has a travel partner I hit the "next" button to go to the next team. The team I am currently editing has the same travel partner as the previous team. When I hit "previous" to go back to the original team that now has no travel partner.

For example I am editing Brown. They have Yale listed as their travel partner. I hit next and it takes me to Columbia. Columbia now has Yale listed as their travel partner. When I hit previous to go back to Brown, Brown now has no travel partner. If I would have hit next on Columbia instead of previous, Cornell would have Yale as its travel partner, and Columbia would not have a travel partner.

I am using 2.1.17

btw can someone explain travelling partner to me? What does that do?

I think it's similar to how the Pac-10 (among others) currently schedules games - the Washington schools will (for example) go on the road one week and play, say, the Oregon schools (UW vs. Oregon, WSU vs. OSU on Thursday, UW vs. OSU, WSU vs. Oregon on Saturday) and then be home the next week to face, say, the northern California schools. It's a natural for the Pac-10 as currently configured with the 5 pairs of natural, in-state rivals, but it could work with any even-numbered conference.

Dawgfan nailed it exactly. For conferences with even numbers of teams, teams usually share the same road trips and home stands except when they play each other. For the conferences that have it set in the default league file, I reviewed their schedules from previous years and determined that they did in fact use this sort of system. In real life its just common sense due to geography and travel costs.

Oh, yes. Let's simulate Dean Smith's 4-corners stall and have 10-8 conference final scores.:devil:

I'm working up a set of leaguefiles that recreate as accurately as possible the NCAA landscape in 1938 -- the first season for which the NCAA tournament was held to conclude the season. I'll keep you guys posted -- the 6-team conference thing (and 5 if Brian is particularly nice) carries some import in creating this setup.

britrock, do you want my list of schools when they came in after 1948 as well? I'd be interested in seeing your 1938 list and seeing if there's any schools that came in between 1938 and 48 and if there's any years available.

What are the actual number of games played by conferences with the 5 and 6 team setups?

I would assume they would play double round robins for 8 and 10 games, respectively, although triple round robins of 12 and 15 games (or quadruples of 16 and 20) would be a cool thing to have.

Am I right in assuming that the game doesn't provide for conference schedules to consist of more than a double round robin at present?

Does the game allow you to customize the number of games in your schedule to support simming older seasons? Looking at the College Basketball Sports-Reference site, seems clear that many teams played slightly more abbreviated schedules in the '20's and '30's.

After playing the demo forever...finally took the official plunge....now I just need time to play it fully :) Quite strangely, I probably played this demo more than actual full games I have on my computer over the last month. Must mean I will really enjoy the full game.

Two update points:

As St. Peter's I started out with Prs and facilities at 29. After three seasons of 15-16, 21-12 and first round loss in the 3BIT and 28-6 and a first round win in the NCAAs, I'm up to 39 in prestige. However, my training facilities are down to 22. The AD has said there is to be an upgrade, and I assume it will come in time for training camp.

We'll see.

Some interesting results/questions/feature requests.

1) I fast-simmed 10 years. Duke won 4 straight titles and and a total of 5 within the 10 years. Stunning streak.

2) On the coach's record screen in history, why is a year field listed? Aren't these totals for the coach over all the years?

3) On the coach's record screen in history, there were coaches listed I could not select to see their history. Not sure if they were fired or something, but shouldn't you always be able to see their history regardless if they get fired or retired? I believe most were retired since I saw them on coach's move report. Just not sure why you can't see retired coach's data. Other coaches on the screen were clickable.

4) On the tourney champ report in history, it shows all the final games with the scores. But why doesn't it show the opponent? There is plenty of space on the report and if your showing the score, that would only be meaningful if you knew who you played. I know you can click on the score to bring up the boxscore to see it, but seems strange the opponent can't be listed saving a mouse click.

On the coach's movement report, what transactions are actually shown? Over ten years of fast simming, I only saw about 5-6 transactions showing and they were all retired coaches. Should this report also show coaches that were fired or moved to other jobs? If not, where can I see that info? Unless this report does show that but no coach was fired or changed jobs over 10 years which doesn't seem realistic.

if i recall, i've only seen coach movement on that screen during the actually head coach round of that offseason.

But if I fast simmed, there really isn't a head coach round that I can see or control. I am wondering if coaches can't be fired or change jobs during fast simming. If that is the case, that would be a little disappointing. I was hoping to do a large amount of years to create a ton of history, but not having movement would really skew the results.

Looks like you can't also see player detail/history once they are no longer in the league just like the retired coaches. That is disappointing since when I see all these players and coaches on the history reports and see all the great things they did, I naturally want to click on them to see the details about them. For example, what did each of there seasons look like, where did they come from, etc. From a retired coach perspective, always kind of interesting to know what age they retired, but their details hidden too.

1. In my current 80 year league, Ive had 3 teams win back to back titles total and none more than that. Duke winning 4 straight and 5 is pretty impressive.

2. So you line up and easily compare coaches with a first glance. That year is the last year they coached.

3. Good question, anyone else having that problem as I cant duplicate it.

4. Fair point, as you can see the National Semi finals from the drop down menu.

It shows all 3, hired, fired, and retired transactions.

Im assuming you are looking under history, and then coach moves??

At the moment its locked in although that is something that could be changed potentially.

Correct....that is where I am looking. No more then those transactions I listed.

Do you have your retired coach data turned on and under team record size do you have it set to 50?

That is under Tools (top menu of the game) then league options.

If the gave saved all of this data (because players change every 4 years) it would eat up a lot of memory and slow stuff down.... Trying to find that balancing act is pretty tough job to do.

Good catch...never noticed the retired coach option:) I understand the issue about memory and such, but would love an option for the players as well. That way each of us could decide between performance and detail.

You may have just started with a ton of young coaches??? I dont know. I know I have a lot of guys moving around in my careers and im currently fast simming (up to year 80 at the moment). Keep going im sure it will change for you.

There has actually been requests to turn down the coaching churn as some people think that the coaches move around too much.... Again just going back to the balancing act thats tough to do

Im sure Brian will add that to the list he keeps. Thanks for all the comments btw

Agreed I wouldn't want it over done. However, although I am no expert in college basketball history, I have to assume that at least one coach has been fired, hired, or changed jobs in a given year. Therefore, in my opinion, there should never be a year without at least some of these transactions, let alone none over 10 years. I will certainly try again to see if anything changes, maybe just a fluke.

No problem. Regardless of all these questions/issues I am raising, I am really liking the game. I bring them up to try and make it even better:) I am hoping that Brian may consider some of my suggestions for future patches.

Actually I think I misunderstood your question....

That screen where you are looking is just for the last season. It not all the moves for the past 10 years....

Really? Seems odd to be listed in the history reports. Either way, still think there should always be at least one hire, fire, or movement in a give year. If this is true, I would submit my next level of feature request:)

1) Ability to view movement by year just like every other history report

2) If you can only see last year's retired coaches, then what good does it have to have that option to see the retired coaches? What screen would allow you to see coaches from 10 years ago?

Thanks.

Lets start over

1. When you are looking through coach movement, you can only see on that screen last years coaching changes (you said you fast simmed and were dissapointed you couldnt see the data.... you wont see all 10 years of movement, just the last years worth of coaching moves. Its also very odd that there wasnt 5 guys that were hired if 5 retired. That actually should have created at least 15 coaching changes, as assistants would have been moving around at that point as well.

2. When you look at the coaching records, you will be able to see the top 50 coaches in your career, those will be saved for you if you changed the settings that I talked about earlier

The only other thing that I can think of is that you stopped your fast sim and started looking at stuff, before the coaches were hired. IE you stopped it right as guys retired.....

Bingo...your comments on #1 made me think. When I ended my last season, I did not go through the head coach round before looking at that report. After I did that, I saw plenty of movements. What confused me originally was thinking this represented all 10 years. Problem solved.

However, I would still love to see a year-by-year report on coach movements someday.

On item #2, your right I could look on the coach record screen, but as you mentioned only shows the top 50...what if I was looking for the 55th coach :)

another suggestion.

On the coach's records report in history, I would really like to see a column added for the coach's disposition. It would either show their current team or the fact they are retired or they are currently unemployed. Its nice to have a clear understanding of their current position and requires less mouse clicks to see that detail.

Good point. In the original FBCB some of the data wasn't saved but now it is. There is no reason to not display the data.

Sly would've made a great beta team member based on the amount of feedback in the thread.

I sure hope you are being compensated decently for this great game. You have been great in this thread and I certainly hope sales have been better than they would appear when looking at the GDS forum about this game. This is a game we will be playing in 10 years wondering why other sims cant match the greatness of this game;)

HR,

Thanks for the consideration about making some of the changes in the future. I am keeping my fingers crossed that a number of my suggestions in this thread will be considered for future patches of the game as I think they would further enhance an already great game.

I do have to echo what other people are saying. For some reason, this game has really hooked me and I am not even a basketball fan. I think you found the right balance of complexity and fun, without over doing it so the game actually feels like a "game" versus a ton of work. I hope if you ever decide to add more depth or complexity that you put in "switches" to allow each inidividual to turn them on and off since I would hate to see this one bog down with too much of that included in the base game. Although I also like OOTP, I find myself spending more time trying to figure it out, tweaking it, waiting for patches to correct issues, that typically I never make it through an actual season. In this game, I probably got more mileage out of the demo (now the offical game) then the full game of OOTP and other ones. Great job!

If you are ever need a hand in testing new features, bouncing new ideas, or ever need testers for your next version, feel free to call on me :)

A couple observations from a test run of the 1938 season:

1. The 6-team conferences get defaulted into not playing any conference games. More interesting is that some of the teams in the conference played each other at random (Iowa State played Kansas, Kansas State, and Nebraska once each), but those games did not count in the standings. Allowing informally scheduled intra-conference games would ameliorate the issue to not supporting small conferences, but perhaps it is simpler to just add support for smaller conferences.

2. Having a ton of Indys (around 45 of them) causes some trouble on the display pages for those conferences. Different screens cut off at 24 and 16 teams (standings and bubble watch screens, respectively, IIRC) listed, with no scroller to see the remaining teams.

3. I used Izulde's "zeroed-out" prestige to start. The polls were wacky; at the end of the regular season, they accurately ranked the top 3 teams, then ranked in positions 4-25 the teams with losing records in alphabetical order. That may also be a consequence of the gigantic independents conference overloading a game mechanism. I'll try splitting the Indys up into 2 or 3 different Indy conferences to see if that addresses some of the above issues.

4. None of the conferences in this set-up had conference tourneys; after the NCAA selection show, I accidentally clicked the conference tourneys button from the hot seat and got an RTE 383 (reasonably enough, since there's no data to show). However, during the season, I tried clicking that button and got the more appropriate reaction of nothing.

BTW, having all the teams at 0 prestige affects the quality of gameplay; I didn't scour the statistics, but team scoring averages ranged the 50s.

Hey everybody,

I just discovered the updated game and this thread very recently. I helped beta test Gary's DDS game and have played it for several years. I'm really excited to get into this one... already bought the new version!

A quick question for you guys (and I've looked and looked, and haven't found this anywhere...), how should I set my team's offense when playing against a zone? To be more specific, in general basketball terms I prefer a very structured offense vs a zone, not much creating or freelancing. From reading the posts on the game, the "high Motion" setting would seem to generate this (and perhaps also setting a slower pace). But of course, you don't really run "Motion" against a zone... so the terminology makes me wonder if that's correct, or maybe I'm missing something.

Any suggestions or insights are very welcome. Again, looking forward to losing a lot of sleep playing this! :)

In game terms motion means you will work the ball to get better shots but turnover the ball more with less individual play. So the way you like to coach against a zone like you had mentioned you would want a slow pace and high motion setting.

Just a heads up. If you have a team with low ball handling skills this high motion setting can be bad;)

Thanks jbergey! And the caution is duly noted. ;)

Tonight I am running a fast sim from 1939 to 2010 to get history from the first year of the tournament. I know it won't be completly correct because of all the changes that have occurred over the years, but will be interesting to see how things turn out such as the most wins by a coach, most championships by a coach, etc.

So far after about 19 years, Texas has 4 titles with 3 or 4 other teams have 2 titles a piece.

I simmed from 1900 to current day a month or two ago with limited movement and conference prestige change.

It was interesting. North Carolina had the most championships. The Big Ten was a mid major conference and North Dakota had won a national championship.

Does anyone make changes to their game plan for road vs. home games?

I have to admit, I was skeptical about running a fast sim from 1939-2010 and seeing reasonable results. Boy was I wrong. This game sims to do an exceelent job with statistics and I could not notice anything glaringly wrong. Some interesting points.

- Texas had 7 titles in the 70 years, California had 6 washington 5 and syracuse 4. The rest spread out. 35 different teams won a title. Comparing to the real life list, this seemed like reasonable results.

- Impressive streak. Texas made the dance 69 times out of 70. A few other teams made it 60+. Although I have no stats to back it up comparing to real life. This one stat does seem a little out there. But who knows, maybe this is possible, but maybe too many schools making it too many times.

- had one coach win 1000 games. The rest were spread out. I had roughly 40 coaches who won over 600 games. Comparing to history that is pretty close since I believe the real life number is around 56.

- Texas the only 2000 win school

- Had one player score 72 points in a game. The rest of the high scores was in the 50 range.

Again, very pleased with the outcome of the 70 year sim. Impressive on how close the stats could be. I did not look at every category so maybe there might be something strange out there, but since I am not a basketball guru, really didn't notice.

I do have to put my plug in for another feature to be added. On the coaches history screen report and on the coach's profile, would like to see the total number of seasons they coached added. I know I can go into their history screen and manually count them, but would be nice to just see a total. In addition, I wuldn't mind seeing a field for their start and end years too (i.e. starting in 1940, ended in 1973.

Great job!

Another impressive thing. After accumlating stats for 70 years, the actual gameplay speed remains the same as playing only one year. That is impressive that the speed does not degrade with that much history.

The only downside of a league this size, the load and save times are longer, but I guess that should be expected.

Yup, I simmed from '39 too, and I always find it interesting looking at the history of my opponents before each game. I played Indiana State the other day and during the 70s they were a real power house and up in the 80s for prestige with several final four appearances, then they sucked for a a few decades and are now on the rise again.

So when you did the long term sim, did you allow conference prestige to change or set any of the other options in any special way? I left pretty much everything on default, except changed injuries and suspensions to 70 to reduce those.

I had no conference movement on, and I didn't turn the 3pt shot on until 1986 I think, or whichever year the 3pt shot came into play.

Good point about the 3pt shot...never thought about timing that with the real life rule change.

Found a bug. I have keep retired coaches turned on. When I go the coach records report in history, I can click on retired coaches and their details come up as they should. However, I look at the coach movement report and click on retired coaches there, the detailed screen will not come up. I think it should to be consistent with other screens.

Anybody running any online leagues with this game???
im looking to join one.

Check out the FOFC FBCB league, run by Radii.

we're most of the way through this season but we take new coaches at any time. There's a stickied signup thread on the general discussion board(http://fbcb-fofc.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2) and the current list of human coached teams are here: Human Coaches. All other teams are available.

I fast-simmed from 1935-2010.

Mississippi State, Tennessee, and Texas reached the NCAA Tournament 72 times, Florida 71. Twelve schools never made the tournament (Northern Illinois would be considered the biggest school there, maybe Towson or Chicago State), and a handful of schools, including Air Force and Wichita State, only made it once.

Out of the traditional big schools, these are the fewest entries:

2: Washington State
3: Princeton, Colorado State, William & Mary
4: College of Charleston, James Madison, Penn State, Rhode Island
5: Temple
7: St. Joe's (0-7 lifetime), DePaul (5-7 lifetime, Big East prepared them well for when they did make it)
8: Cincinnati


UTEP has the fewest NCAA appearances by a school to have reached a Final Four, with five. Southern Utah (6), San Jose State (8), and South Dakota State (9) are next.

Illinois has the fewest NCAA appearances by a champion, with 11. IUPUI is the most unlikely champion, having won the 2007 NCAA championship.

Louisville has the most championships, with eight, followed by Mississippi State (6), Maryland (5), and UConn (4). Thirty-two teams have won championships, with the only schools that would raise an eyebrow being IUPUI and BYU (though North Carolina's two titles raises an eyebrow, as does Duke's zero titles and only three conference titles and one Final Four appearance).

Maryland, from what I can ascertain, is the only champion not to have qualified for the postseason the next season (1989-90). Oddly enough, they also went from not qualifying for the postseason to winning the championship the following year (1979-80). In that decade (1980-89), they won two championships, reached the Final Four five times, and made eight Sweet Sixteens.

That same decade saw Mississippi State win four titles, including three in a row (1982, 85-87) lose in another championship game, and reach two more Sweet Sixteens. Since then, they have reached the round of eight 11 times in 19 seasons, though their record there isn't good (3-8).

Texas has the most conference championships with 29, followed by IUPUI (25) and Michigan State (24). Texas has also blown away the competition with 56 All-Americans, followed by Florida (42), and Miss State (41). Oklahoma State is tops with 6 #1 picks, amazing considering they only had 11 players picked in the top five.

There has been one 60-point game in history, reached by Avery Laney of the College of Charleston in 1959. There's one 30-rebound game, reached by Alphonso Parmenter of Penn State in 1958, and one 20-assist game, by Gerald Rogers of Tennessee in 1982. And Chris Saechao sure didn't like getting into the record books in 2007 when his 15 turnovers tied a record set by Fletcher Holden of Austin Peay in 1944.

For a career, only Richmond's Joe Ballew has eclipsed 3000 points in a career (3116). This is even more remarkable when it's discovered that in his best season, he scored 831 points. All four of his seasons ranks in the top 25 of Atlantic 10 history of points in a season, but none of his seasons rank among the top 50 of all-time. In fact, only one player, Ronald Bynres of Bradley, has scored 1000 points in a single season, doing that in 1937.

This is really the only thing I am noticing so far in long term simming that may concern me and wondering if Brian could and should tweak. A team making it to the dance 70+ times and nearly every year seems like a stretch. I have no official NCAA stats to back that up, but seems like a little too much for the same teams to make it that much Although, what I am guessing plays into it is there hasn't always been 64-68 teams invited to the dance throughout history. Therefore, many more opportunities for a team to make it. Another good feature request for Brian is the ability to change the number of tournament teams allowed in the tournament instead of having only the options of 64, 65, and 68. Probably way too difficult to add with all the conference rules and such.

I just found something very odd, using the latest patch (2.1.18). If you go to edit the default league and use either the next or previous buttons to change teams, the conference of the team you were just on changes; specifically, it moves down the conference list by one. I reinstalled the game and can confirm that this does not happen using the default installer from GDS, so something must have been introduced in a later patch. I can also confirm that in order to fix the issue, you have to select the conference that's one up in the list of the one you want and then click exit.

EDIT: Actually, it looks like anything you do in the editor causes the conference to change. I edited the prestige of Indiana, clicked exit, and the conference changed on me.

Can i advocate for player game logs again ? That´s one i really miss compared to the DDS games :(

I would support that as long as it maybe was a feature that can be turned on/off as part of setup in case it added a lot more storage requirements or took longer to process game turns. But I do like the idea, would add an additional level of immersion. I would also like to see player events tracked for the player such as all their injuries and academic suspensions.

Dumb question. If you turn off 3 point shooting, does the computer ignore that rating on players they are trying to recruit? I still see each player is rated for this so wondering if the CPU recruiter uses that rating to determine a player they want, even if the 3PT shot is not selected. I would think it shouldn't and maybe to some degree that 3pt rating of the player should be hidden if this feature is not turned on. Just a thought.

I have another question. I noticed coaching in-game that individual defense matchups are set, and that there is a "pressure" option... low, normal, high defensive pressure for each player. Can that be manually set prior to simming a game? Or does the AI set those dynamically when you sim, with no pre-game human input allowed?

Another question. :) I notice you can sim a game with the Team Control set either to "USER" Coach games or "CPU" Coach games. Is there a difference in how the game is simmed?

It seems obvious that the CPU coaches your team in either case, but I was wondering if perhaps in the "USER" mode the Game Plan settings you select are used, vs. perhaps in the CPU mode the CPU-selected settings are used. Or is it the same? Thanks in advance. :)