We are not trying to keep it tied.

I'm actually suspicious of Raven for that reasoning.

And I am not surprised that Vaimes is feeling better about Shoveler than me.

I'm here. I apologize again for lack of posting, basically just out of game reasons. New job so a lot of training and little downtime there even at lunchtime.

I find the Autumn votes to be suspicious. I don't think I saw much of a case laid out for him. I don't know about Shoveler, I think this is our second game and he seemed different in tone than his first game, but that might be due to being busy.

After the move EF pulled at deadline, I agree I look pretty bad if he turns up wolf. For the record I refreshed and saw him make the change, but I couldn't get my vote changed and formatted on my phone quick enough to switch to him. I was disgusted enough that I just gave up trying to post the vote because I knew it was late.

I actually felt decently about Raven until the Autumn vote. Going to see if I can pull up the reasons there.

Can we kill Raven toMorrow?

Well I need to put my kid to bed and I dont want to make the mistake that was made a few games ago.

Vaimes is town, I scanned him last night. I am Red, the seer.

I've played this poorly. Tried to stay under the radar to keep myself from drawing a night kill and apparently that is making me look bad to everyone else. So there you have what little information I can provide at this point.

My intent tonight was to scan EF.

Just an aside, I love that we have a passionate group and in general since the rebirth we've had way more posting in general, which is great. But it would be awesome if we could argue respectfully and not dig into other people. It's a turn off to me and I would be surprised if I'm the only one. Anyway, off the soapbox.

Why Vaimes?

Shoveler, why scan Vaimes?

The reveal/non-reveal confused me. So I checked him out. Didn't have much else to work with other than a random shot in the dark.

back in a few..

You weren't going to get a night kill. I'm not buying it.

I can buy that. unfortunately it takes out two guys I was suspect of. Glad he revealed now so I can ponder.

As of Post 616

Shoveler 6-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510), Path(563), Fontisian(571), JAG(605), Vaimes(608)
Autumn 5-Timmae(542), The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


Nightfall 1-EagleFan(360)

Very confusing 2 days. I am keeping my vote on autumn for the reasons I laid out. Not sure I believe shoveler as it isn't even close to lynch chaos and there seems to be quite a few people around to shift if need be. That, much like EF, will work itself out though. If vaimes and shoveler are around tomorrow we have some fud to work through.

Thanks for this post jag. We have an awesome group here, no doubt! I have to imagine that all of the attitude is game related. Maybe some meta but still game related. Back to our regularly scheduled program.

Unvote Shoveler

I don't know that I believe it as he didn't post anything about being confused regarding the Vaimes 'reveal', but I don't want to lynch the seer if I'm wrong. I actually forgot the fake reveal thing from yesterday.

I agree with this. I wrote out half a post to ask people to step away from the computer if they are feeling heated or to even PM whoever is running the game and vent out their frustrations. I changed my mind because I thought I was being too sensitive.

I have a few people I'm watching and wondering about, but am unsure on my reads. looking back at Raven there is a lot of asking other people to make a case on someone and then he will vote there, which feels wolfish to me. not a lot to go on there, fairly low posting.

vote raven

Shoveler... Why the quick claim??!

Reading back today, I like what I've seen from Jackal. Feeling pretty decent about him as villager.

Quick? Only an hour left and I had to put my kid to bed. EF didn't give enough time two games ago and he was crucified for that. I guess I am not privy to the appropriate reveal time schedule.

I agree 1 minute is a bit too late, no doubt about that!

We're guaranteed one more check because the Martyr very much needs to protect you.

Unfortunately I don't have even a medicore negative read at this point.

Shovler: Vaimes check, why?

Also if Shoveler isn't the actual Seer then a 1 for 1 would be nice here.

Nothing wrong with your timing in my opinion.

+1

As of Post 633

Autumn 5-Timmae(542), The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 4-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510), Path(563), Fontisian(571)
Raven 2- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


Nightfall 1-EagleFan(360)

This is too close for comfort at the moment. Vote me if you must, but Font and Path need to move off shoveler. Other two will not move.

Working off of smartphone.. Autumn, did you claim?

I do not buy the reveal but I will switch. I also think the fact you moved off him immediately even though you were next in voting speaks well for you as village.

UNVOTE SHOVELER
VOTE RAVEN

If the Shoveler reveal is real...

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)

I have not. I am a vanilla villager.

Vaimes flat out said when he claimed martyr that town shouldn't pay attention to it. Why scan him?

I mean, a wolf would say that too.

As of Post 642

Raven 5- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


Nightfall 1-EagleFan(360)

And better than scanning brit, at least.. though an EF scan would've been super.

Not really, a wolf would move immediately as they would at least know the player wasn't a wolf. Take a chance that people think just like what you posted.

Yeah totally could be a buying trust move.

Did I say how much I hate nightfalls?! (ribbing EF!)

Yeah, I don't know. I think you get a counter claim eventually.

You guys pressure people to cast votes that count, then when they do you lynch them for it. Must be nice to vote early with no fucking reasoning whatsoever, so you can just coast through.