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EagleFan 04-14-2015 09:58 PM

No sense in trying to figure it out now; unless the real seer is online as they should definitely reveal at this point as we would have caught 2 of the 3 wolves and be in great shape.

We'll see tomorrow where this goes.

fontisian 04-14-2015 09:59 PM

If I were scum, I'd bet that the martyr wouldn't get back in time to protect seer!Shoveler.

The Jackal 04-14-2015 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3019621)
If I were scum, I'd bet that the martyr wouldn't get back in time to protect seer!Shoveler.


Risky, but I'd think either way Shoveler would be the target .. unless they did miss Zinto's BG clarification

JAG 04-14-2015 10:05 PM

I also think the seer should reveal and then I'll vote Shoveler. I'm pretty sure I know who the seer is.

EagleFan 04-14-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3019553)
If the Shoveler reveal is real and we have no counters...

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)


Updated Autumn to mostly good. Reading back over the posts after the reveal I think it does lean him towards good.

EagleFan 04-14-2015 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3019584)
If the Shoveler reveal is true:

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


Updated with my lean on Autumn.

EagleFan 04-14-2015 10:17 PM

If Shoveler reveal is countered (though we will be adding colors if we get a counter).

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3019553)
If the Shoveler reveal is real and we have no counters...

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)


Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3019584)
If the Shoveler reveal is true:

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


EagleFan 04-14-2015 10:19 PM

Sorry, cheek was still supposed to be green in that day one vote (in the counter scenario).

EagleFan 04-14-2015 10:20 PM

Good night all.

EagleFan 04-14-2015 10:24 PM

FTR; I will be away much of the day tomorrow. Still not feeling well but will be in the office tomorrow and my schedule looks crazy with meetings (ugh). Will try to get to the thread over my phone when I can but I hate posting a lot when on the phone.

britrock88 04-14-2015 10:33 PM

:popcorn:

path12 04-14-2015 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3019540)
Just tell her that you're playing a game with a 19 year old girl. I'm sure she'll take it really well.


She knows. She thinks this sounds like an awful game. However the direct yet warm ms.path loves few things more than talking to smart young women.

path12 04-14-2015 11:14 PM

VOTE SHOVELER

Hi, I'm Red.

N1 scan on EagleFan, conditional on Narcizo if EF got lynched. EF is good, you may note my quick turnaround on him right after D1.

N2 scan was Autumn, conditional to fontisian if Autumn got lynched. Autumn is good.

Shoveler, on the other hand is not me. So he must be Team Rocket.

path12 04-14-2015 11:21 PM

I can give you quotes:

Post #317
Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019002)
That's a weird reason then because everybody claims village!

Why are we voting Brit?

Anyone interested in switching to EF?


Post #318
Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019003)
I could go Cheeki but I'd rather go EF. There you go then,

VOTE EAGLEFAN


Post #358, soon after start of D2.
Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019053)
There was really no big push at the end. Two of the three were villagers. Might have been all three.


Post #361
Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019056)
I'm going to look in different directions.

VOTE TIMMAE


Post #373
Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019071)
I think the wolves made a mistake with the nightkill. I think they killed Brit because they figured that EF would be the cinch target for day 2. And if we don't lynch EF today I cannot imagine a situation where we would not know if he was a wolf by day 3.

So if I think that's what they think, I don't see the point in lynching EagleFan today.


fontisian 04-14-2015 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019644)
She knows. She thinks this sounds like an awful game. However the direct yet warm ms.path loves few things more than talking to smart young women.

:)

Vote Shoveler

Vaimes 04-14-2015 11:33 PM

Vote Shoveler

Narcizo 04-15-2015 01:08 AM

Unusual for me to be so accurate on day two. Or any day to be honest.

Vote Shoveler

No reason for Path to lie plus neither Shoveler nor the Matyr dying.

Narcizo 04-15-2015 02:47 AM

Ok for the porpoises of vote analysis I'm going to colour Path, Autumn and Eagle blue and Shoveler red because I'm hard pressed finding a way that Path isn't telling the truth. In fact I'll, appropriately enough, colour myself Blue as that's who I am, as will be proved tonight.

You won't believe how glad I am that Path didn't reveal after Shoveler last night, as I wouldn't have protected him then. (Zinto kindly allowed me to use conditional protect orders so I was protecting the first person to reveal as a seer - in retrospect I should have protected the last person to reveal). Anyway, no harm as it turned out.

Narcizo 04-15-2015 03:24 AM

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)

Grover it is then.

Narcizo 04-15-2015 03:27 AM

Accidentally marked Vaimes as blue for some reason but the point remains. My trust list of uncleared is something like

Fontisian
Vaimes
Jackal

Timmae
JAG

Grover

JAG 04-15-2015 04:41 AM

Well, I was wrong on my seer guess. But anyway,

Vote Shoveler

Narcizo 04-15-2015 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3019588)
... Only Benny Hill is better.


Unvote Shoveler
Vote Timmae

Narcizo 04-15-2015 04:48 AM

Unvote Timmae
Vote Shoveler

JAG 04-15-2015 04:48 AM

Post 530 for Grover, switching from font to timmae when Raven had 3 and timmae had 2 doesn't look too good.

JAG 04-15-2015 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3019456)
Well I need to put my kid to bed and I dont want to make the mistake that was made a few games ago.

Vaimes is town, I scanned him last night. I am Red, the seer.

I've played this poorly. Tried to stay under the radar to keep myself from drawing a night kill and apparently that is making me look bad to everyone else. So there you have what little information I can provide at this point.

My intent tonight was to scan EF.


Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019461)
You weren't going to get a night kill. I'm not buying it.


In case anyone was to distrust the path reveal for some reason...

JAG 04-15-2015 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019485)
I do not buy the reveal but I will switch. I also think the fact you moved off him immediately even though you were next in voting speaks well for you as village.

UNVOTE SHOVELER
VOTE RAVEN


Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019489)
Vaimes flat out said when he claimed martyr that town shouldn't pay attention to it. Why scan him?


For good measure.

JAG 04-15-2015 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019286)
Because you are smart enough to know that the wolves messed up on the nightkill, the EF situation resolves itself without a lynch and the better value for the village is trying to suss out who was hiding where on what could very well be a three way village vote yesterday.

So for me your motivations for pushing EF today come into question.


This is also a fun post in retrospect and then font's curiosity at how it resolves itself without a lynch.

JAG 04-15-2015 06:37 AM

Grover's my only guess for the last wolf at this point after reading back. path had some good dialogue calling him out Day 2 and his vote on timmae yesterday looks fishy in retrospect.

Shoveler 04-15-2015 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019648)
VOTE SHOVELER

Hi, I'm Red.

N1 scan on EagleFan, conditional on Narcizo if EF got lynched. EF is good, you may note my quick turnaround on him right after D1.

N2 scan was Autumn, conditional to fontisian if Autumn got lynched. Autumn is good.

Shoveler, on the other hand is not me. So he must be Team Rocket.


Well this has to be the biggest bullshit counter claim I have ever seen. I scanned EF last night and yes he is town, but of course you knew that already.

Guess your plan is working for now. After I get lynched today and flip good you're hosed. Not sure the strategy for the counter, not going after me last night should have been good enough.

Autumn 04-15-2015 07:10 AM

Vote Shoveler

timmae 04-15-2015 07:10 AM

vote shoveler

Last nights actions push me in this direction. We will see who is lying quickly enough. The stooges never lied... Maybe these guys are the 3 cabelleros.

Grover 04-15-2015 07:11 AM

Oh man...

Who to believe.

I will be around all day and tonight for once. So... still catching up here.

Grover 04-15-2015 07:15 AM

vote shoveler

path seems more legitimate here. Whereas, Shoveler seems to have the hint of desperation of a wolf trying to save themselves.

EagleFan 04-15-2015 07:25 AM

Between the wolves not going after Shoveler and that a fake counter by path really does the wolves no good... And my initial read on Shoveler...

vote Shoveler

Narcizo 04-15-2015 08:52 AM

I ought to try and do some sort of analysis but I haven't really had time today and its difficult seeing past Grover. My worry is that this, barring Path's scan tonight, is all the information we're going to get. But with the number of cleared villagers I think the wolf would have to be the last possible person imaginable for us not to win. But wackier things have happened.

timmae 04-15-2015 08:54 AM

wow, 10 votes for shoveler this page alone. And then that vote on me because narc apparently doesn't have good taste in comedy shows. Anyways... reading back through the thread to try and verify who team shoveler may be and who team path may be.

timmae 04-15-2015 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3018653)
I'll be around all day. Wanted to get a post in last night and I didn't get a chance to take a shot at Cheeki for the last game, so yeah my vote is not real serious. But at this point he isn't giving me any real reason to move it.

As for reads, font seems active and engaged like I would expect (drawing from my huge experience pool of 3 games), going with good on her. Narc feels similar to me, good engagement & unbiased contribution, will expect the usual vote analysis after day 1 to feel more confident.

Everyone else is a ? at this point. Not sure about the eagle vote for font. But from what I have seen previously he can be very unpredictable, so I'm not going to read much into that yet.


There could be reads here. If shoveler flips evil then I have slight negative (evil) reads on narc, font and to a lesser extent EF.

Shoveler 04-15-2015 09:06 AM

I dont see myself talking my way out of this lynch. So if lynching me helps reveal Path's deceit, why not start the nightfall votes and just move the game forward?

timmae 04-15-2015 09:15 AM

Nightfalls are never a good idea for team good IMHO. I will not be nightfalling.

Zinto 04-15-2015 09:21 AM

As of Post 789

Shoveler 7-Path(763), Font(765), Vaimes(766), JAG(771), Narcizo(773), Grover(783), EagleFan(784)
EagleFan 1-Autumn(710)
Autumn 1-Timmae(728)

Zinto 04-15-2015 09:21 AM

Timmae and Autumn you didn't unvote your previous votes.

Grover 04-15-2015 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3019714)
I dont see myself talking my way out of this lynch. So if lynching me helps reveal Path's deceit, why not start the nightfall votes and just move the game forward?


I know you're essentially a sitting duck, but I don't think this is a good idea.

We need to continue fostering discussion about who could be the third wolf.

While I do think you are lying about being the seer, it's fairly obvious that EF was good, it would behoove us not to go down the nightfall road. There's plenty to discuss, even with your fate sealed.

Also, waiting 12 hours to die when you know it's going to happen really, really sucks. I'm sorry that we have to delay the inevitable.

Autumn 04-15-2015 09:57 AM

unvote eaglefan
vote shoveler

path12 04-15-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3019713)
There could be reads here. If shoveler flips evil then I have slight negative (evil) reads on narc, font and to a lesser extent EF.


EF? I've cleared EF. Hell, even the fake seer has claimed to clear EF, though he didn't leave any bread crumbs as far as I can tell.

path12 04-15-2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3019714)
I dont see myself talking my way out of this lynch. So if lynching me helps reveal Path's deceit, why not start the nightfall votes and just move the game forward?


We can talk it out if you like. I have more posts to reference, though it looks like JAG hit many of them.

timmae 04-15-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 3019736)
EF? I've cleared EF. Hell, even the fake seer has claimed to clear EF, though he didn't leave any bread crumbs as far as I can tell.


Lol, yep. Obviously I havent reached your claim and views on my reread yet!

timmae 04-15-2015 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3019721)
Timmae and Autumn you didn't unvote your previous votes.


Right. My fault. Sorry boss!

The Jackal 04-15-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3019636)
FTR; I will be away much of the day tomorrow. Still not feeling well but will be in the office tomorrow and my schedule looks crazy with meetings (ugh). Will try to get to the thread over my phone when I can but I hate posting a lot when on the phone.


sounds exactly like my yesterday and today, i'm inhaling cough drops

The Jackal 04-15-2015 11:30 AM

I had a feeling path was the seer as well

The Jackal 04-15-2015 11:30 AM

vote shoveler


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