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So, like I thought this morning, Pass is the correct play...........correct? |
cougar, I guess we'll find out when EagleFan posts the results. But a lot of people agree with your Pass vote tonight.
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I am not convinced that Pass is a wolf. He has been playing suspiciously throughout the game. At this point, I really don't know who the wolves are. I still have some suspicion of almost every player in the game.
Voting for Pass at this point makes me look suspicious if he does come back as a wolf. If I go another direction and he comes back a villager, then I am not sure what that says either. So, essentially, I am going to be under scrunity no matter what direction I go, just like Pass last night. So I am going to vote by my gut and what my gut has been telling me all along VOTE NTNDEACON |
14 minutes to deadline for those that need it.
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Pass - ntndeacon (1811) hoopsguy (1877) PackerFanatic (1886) mckerney (1896)
GoldenEagle - Chief RUm (1815) ntndeacon - GoldenEagle (1905) |
Looking forward to EF getting back. I will probably be in bed, so I will catch up in the morning.
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Oh, right, we don't get results today. Well, hopefully the duke saved our butts.
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And sorry I haven't been very involved in the game lately -- I pretty much felt like I was being attacked personally, and that basically made me not want to do anything game-related.
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I'll definitely be in bed......I'm beat from a long week.
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Going to start processing the results. It'll be a few as it look like I have a lot to go through.
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The Teams are underway as they all start making their way toward Frankfurt.
During the travel we see Chief Rum and hoopsguy discussing the race. It seems they have some not so good intentions for a couple other teams on the race. "I can't wait to see CrimsonFox's face..." "Yeah...." (laughter) "What about Autumn, this should wipe that goofy smile off his face..." As we see Team Reebok talking we can see that the Team Fembot isn't the only team looking to play a little dirty.... "That animal team won't know what hit them..." |
CrimsonFox and GoldenEagle arrive at the roabblock first. The challenge involves driving a test vehicle on a high speed course ad beating the time limit. If the player does not beat the time they must try again. If another team arrives during that time they must alternate turns if not successful.
CrimsonFox takes the challenge for his team and he does a phenominal job. He has what will end up being the fastest time of the day in the challenge. Team Fembot arrives followed shortly by Team Reebok. It will be hoopsguy versus ntndeacon as the two teams begin the challenge. hoopsguy seems to pick it up in training faster then ntndeacon and she takes the first run at it. She makes it the first time. ntndeacon misses the time by just one second and must attempt a second time. He is successful and they are on their way. |
JAG and mckerney arrive next and drama begins. mckerney begins to sob uncontrollably and is having flashbacks to a traumatic event from Grease.
He begs JAG to do the roadblock and he finally agrees. It takes him a couple attempts but they are finally on their way. Shortly after they finish mauboy1 and Danny arrive. Mauboy1 does the challenge and finishes on thei first try. They have made up some time as they head for the detour. |
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Sorry for my part in that, Pass. I know I have treated you roughly. I wasn't the one who called you a dick, but I certainly said some less than nice things. I will say that my comments weren't intended to be personally insulting, but a frustrated commentary on the approach you took in arguing with me. I found it a little insulting to my intelligence that you would go to the point of semantics on my use if one word in a post a whole day before. Being that picky showed me you had no interest in a rational discourse. But I shouldn't have let that get to me, so I apologize for reacting less agreeably to your argumentative style. As to my comments regarding your stubborness and my impression you were unwilling to consider logical arguments, I stand by my words there as fair commentary. |
Oh yeah, and before anyone says anything, yes, I recognize I am just as guilty, if not more so, of being stubborn as Pass is.
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Team ColorAnimal arrives at Drink It first, followed very shortly after by Team Fembot. Both teams make extremely quick work of the task. It seems they all have spent plently of time in a pub.
While they are drinking Team Reebok arrives at the river Main and begin looking for th next clue. We see them walk past a marker but very shortly after they decide to go back and look again and they find it. They are on their way but have lost a little time. JAG and mckerney arrive at Drink It and mckerney is arguing with the people in the area about having to drink beer. He wants it to be an Appletini. After his tantrum JAG calms him down and they eventually decide to try the other detour and go to Find It. While trying find it mckerney slips into a muddy embankment and begins to rant about the network paying for his dry cleaning. Danny and mauboy1 arrive at Drink and and both down their beers in quick fashion. They have traveled very well through this leg and have made up a lot of time in all aspects of this leg, travel and event. Back at the river Main JAG and mckerney have gone looking for a dry cleaner... |
We see two teams show up near the pitstop at about the same time.
Chief Rum and hoopsguy jump from their cab and run for the pitstop.... CrimsonFox and GoldenEagle do the same.... We have a foot race between them. |
Then CimsonFox tumbles to the ground and GoldenEagle stops to help him back up. We hear hoopsguy and Chief Rum giggling as they continue towards the mat.
hoopsguy and Chief Rum, you are the first team to arrive. Minutes later... CrimsonFox and GoldenEagle, you are team number two. Team Reebok arrives shortly after as team number three. |
We see the next team running for the mat; the camera focuses and we see that it is Danny and mauboy1...
Danny and mauboy1, you are the 4th team to arrive. |
Cue the sad music as JAG and mckerney run towards the mat.
As they arrive mckerny hands Phil a receipt for their cleaning and demands that the network pay up. JAG and mckerney, you are the last team to arrive. I am sorry to tell you but you have been eliminated from the race. JAG is completely out of the game. mckerney is still in the werewolf portion of the game. |
After the leg of the race you meet yet again, determined to find another mole.
You first start to look at GoldenEagle but soon decide that Passacaglia must be a mole. The interogation begins and you finally notice something. A mol on Pasacaglia's face... He confesses everything.... Passacaglia was Cindy, the cunning. Passacaglia is now completely out of the game. |
Later in the evening you happen so notice another person walking around in that familiar T-shirt. It's GoldenEagle.
GoldenEagle was a vanilla villager. He is still in the race but has no remaining additional effort to use and their team has lost their remaining aggression as both members are now out of the WW portion of the game. |
Race Standings
1st - Team Fembot 2nd - Team ColorAnimal (+0:05) 3rd - Team Reebok (+0:55) 4th - Team Six (+3:25) |
When you are allowed to begin you will start at Frankfurt and travel to Niagara Falls in Canada. From there...
You have a clue to the Roadblock. Who has fast hands and good concentration? Requires Mental and Physical. Fast Forward (this clue will be at the location of the roadblock)... Over the falls. - We have secured a high tech barrell built for two. - Get in the barrell and go over the falls. - If you survive you may go directly to the pit stop. You have a clue to the Detour. Sweep it: Curl a stone into the target area. Requires physical and mental. - Each player must curl a stone into the target area while the other player sweeps. - Must take turns until they have each played one stone into the target area. Follow it: Find the clue. Requires Travel and Mental. - Using a GPS locator the team must find the clue located somewhere within the city. - Could be quick if you can understand how to read the GPS and what it is telling you. Pit Stop - Goat Island |
If you want to attempt the fast forward include it in your writeup. Only the first team to accomplish the roadblock will get to skip the tasks.
It is a risk so it is up to you to decide if you want to risk it. |
All right, mea culpa. You guys were right and big time congrats for nabbing the cunning in Pass. I'm never trusting Pass again. Sorry for not following along; I just didn't think it was the right percentage play.
I am certain you guys will come after me now. You will be lynching a villager if you do. The good news, though, is that you have the room to do it, thanks to getting the cunning tonight. So if you guys want to lynch me, I understand (although I'll stay argue until I am blue in the face that I am a villager). I think I have been way off in this game. Hopefully I can bounce back in the next one. |
Danny and Hoops, you guys are absolute geniuses.
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Hell yeah!
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Great job guys!
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Oh and not sure how in the world Mau and I are still in this race, but I am glad I get to contribute in helping to find the last wolf.
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So am I really seeing this right? Has this whole Chief vs Pass thing been just one huge fake fight between two wolves? Wow Bravo for the acting. And why take out GE now? That was odd. And I think I know why. Now we have no more points left and so hoops and CHief Rum can charge toward the finish line. Hmmmm, another Chief RUm powerplay?
And for the record Pass, I never called you a dick, but you know that. I've been observing your and Chief's heated comments toward each other as really extreme and rude and I said borderline being dickish (meaning being rude to each other). But I do understand that's in the context of the game and that you are playing each other, especially now that I know you were the cunning. Hell you were playing us as the village too and you are no doubt playing us now. And I really almost fell for it. The lucky thing was I could not do anything about it as I had no vote. As I might not have voted for you today. That was come great acting dude. I dont buy it especially since you guys were shouting tooth and nail at each other and suddenly you perceive someone calling you something and get offended? That does not add up. But that was very very shrewd. I like the aggressive wolf play. |
So we're now 5-1
We have the duke in the game and possibly a wannabee. We're in pretty good shape at this point. |
They killed GE because he was going to be 100% cleared
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Wait A Fast Forward! The Rob Wannabe is using his fast forward abilitiy!
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So that means that ntndeacon is mostlikely the Rob Wannabe considering he is the only member alive from the 3rd and 4th place teams.
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Dear village,
Please vote Chief Rum the wolf out so we can win. His "apology" post to pass absolutely proves it to me. (on top of all his voting) |
Well, that is just mean.
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We even submitted a somewhat trying to be suicidal race to the finish line.. but apparently we did the leg too well for us to die yet. LOL
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And HIGH FIVE DANNY! We MOVE ON!
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Kinda what I expected...
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Very nice. This certainly paints you darkly, Chief. And if you turn up Wolf I will feel very vindicated for having gnawed at you all game.
Sucks that we can't get out of third place. If those damn wolves hadn't offed me ... we'd have you, Fembots, we'd have you! |
Well, I've got one thing to offer on Chief's behalf.
I said in the PMs last night that I was the wannabe, and that I wanted to use the fast forward last night. Now it didn't end up getting processed, perhaps in part because we had a bunch of different PMs we sent Eagle and maybe it wasn't clear enough that we wanted to use it last night. I don't know ... I revealed this about 3.5 hours before deadline, or about the time I posted in thread telling Chief to check his PMs. So if Chief was a wolf then they would have been picking between two "cleared" villagers, since there was the expectation on Chief's part that I would be revealed in the write-up as the wannabe. I agree most everything else about Chief looks bad, and that they certainly could have chosen "scanned/clear > looks like villager + wannabe" but I did want to put it out there as an additional data point. |
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The clarification of the wanabe roles from the day one questions. |
mckerney, while that is true it would require either:
1.) a combined "neutral" and "wolf" role 2.) multiple wolves left |
Hoops, I think that if you put in a fast forward order last night, it applies to the next day, as we see in the next leg's writeup. That's how my sponsor ability worked. Just so you know, I don't think it was a mix-up, you have to send it in a day ahead.
There was no reason to leave GE alive no matter what you did, I think, as GE would be 100% cleared with the cunning reveal. There could at least be some question about you. |
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mckerney, do you in any way think that I'm a wolf at this point in the game? Given the events over the last two days?
If not, I don't really think there is a lot worth arguing here. |
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No, I don't believe that you're a wolf, just that I don't think the point you were making in Chief's defense helps him at all. |
OK, fair enough on not helping Chief in a meaningful level.
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Repost of Day 5 vote: NTN + Cougar on the wolf that day. Sure seems to support their cause. I'll go pull the vote/unvote stuff from that day to see how it goes down, as this is obviously an important day to review at this point. |
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At this point it was 5-3-3, Danny Hoops/Pass. Interesting that Chief didn't mention Pass at all as a possibility. |
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This is the vote count at 8:39 pm that day. Will be interesting to see what happens here as Hoops isn't even in the count yet. |
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So Danny adds Hoops to the mix, Pass follows, not a big surprise there. Packer Fan adds a drive-by vote to make Hoops have 3. Not a great vote, but he could have simply gone Danny, so I don't know if it means anything. Then Chief posts this. I have to say I think it gives him some clearance. He had both Danny and Hoops to choose from over Pass at this point. A wolf Chief should probably jump on one of those two, rather than suggesting adding a fourth candidate. |
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Going back to earlier in the day, yes, I think those first two votes on Pass are solid. There was no need to introduce him at that point. He was arguing with Chief, and one could have either gone with Chief, or gone elsewhere and avoided the whole thing. So those are real solid village votes I think. Here is Chief's reaction right after Pass is added. This one colors him a bit worse I think, coming out in pretty strong defense of Pass as soon as he was added as a vote target. |
I would consider Cougar and NTN cleared for this next vote, based on those votes. McKerney and PF are still murky based on those votes themselves, and Chief of course.
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1438 - Autumn votes mckerney 1-0
1508 - PF votes NTN 1-1 mck/NTN 1516 - Hoops votes Pass 1-1-1 mck/NTN/Pass 1547 - Autumn unvotes mckerney 1-1 NTN/Pass 1570 - Autumn votes JAG 1-1-1 NTN/Pass/JAG 1585 - Hoops unvotes Pass, votes JAG 2-1 JAG over NTN 1591 - NTN votes JAG 3-1 JAG over NTN 1594 - Chief votes mckerney 3-1-1 JAG over NTN/mck 1599 - Cougar votes Pass 3-1-1-1 JAG over NTN/mck/Pass 1606 - GE votes mckerney 3-2-1-1 JAG over mck over NTN/Pass 1618 - NTN unvotes JAG, votes mckerney 3-2-1-1 mck over JAG over NTN/Pass 1632 - mck votes Pass 3-2-2-1 mck over JAG/Pass over NTN 1634 - JAG votes mckerney 4-2-2-1 mck over JAG/Pass over NTN 1640 - mck unvotes Pass, votes JAG 4-3-1-1 mck over JAG over NTN/Pass 1666 - NTN unvotes mck, votes JAG 4-3-1-1 JAG over mck over NTN/Pass 1678 - GE unvotes mck, votes JAG 5-2-1-1 JAG over mck over NTN/Pass This bears a new look as well, now knowing Pass was bad. Yesterday's vote should be examined I think, considering that both PF and Mckerney moved off GE, a villager, onto Pass, a wolf, for the decisive votes. Looking back, do we think they felt enough pressure that they had to move? Or does that pretty much clear them and point a finger at Chief? |
Mckerney in the vote posted above basically puts Pass in the mix at 1632 tying him with JAG behind Mckerney. Not much of a wolf move there. He then later switches from Pass to JAG, allowing NTN to put JAG ahead. Hard to argue that Mckerney looks like a wolf there.
It seems Chief and PF are the only ones to consider right now, in my mind, unless I've missed someone. |
I guess I've ignored Hoops. I may go back and look at him again, too. But my impression so far is that if he's a wolf, he deserves to win the game so that we can go back to lynching him day 1 every day.
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Autumn, also don't forget that Pass was willing to follow on the Hoops vote. I'd say there is no way Hoops should receive a vote. I doubt he's a wolf and if he is, he deserves a good job and the win.
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Cougar, ntn and Hoops are almost certainly villagers. I find it ridiculous that people are still looking at ntn.
Our last wolf is between CR, Mckerney and Packer. |
I also wonder if CR really comes out for Pass like that yesterday knowing he's going to be the lynch? It's quite possible he really felt he was going to be a villager.
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It's possible CR is just guilty of having a bad game lol
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I have to agree on trusting hoops. I could see a situation where a wolf would help vote off his two teammates to gain trust, but in this situation it's not something I could see the brutal doing. |
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And we have two lynches to get the right one, correct? |
That's correct.
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How confident is everyone else that it's down to me, Chief Rum and Packer?
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I think you just revealed as the duke
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Well, unfortunately we're dead, but I'm pretty sure Danny and I agree that it's down to you three, and I've already narrowed it down to PF and Chief.
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I was thinking now would be the time to do that so I don't have to decide who to lynch first. |
And if I'm correct on that, we are definitely down to CR and Packer.
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It's a fine time I think. Good job on the duke btw, I'm glad you didnt go willy nilly with it over the last couple days like some would have
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Mau, great job on our race plan yesterday, I still don't know how we managed that.
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I was ready to use it on JAG when I was on the block. Probably would've voted for JAG earlier in the day if I hadn't had the ability to duke, but I was guessing I'd get some wolf votes and wanted to see how things would play out with 3 candidates. |
Yeah, McK, excellent Duke work. First time in a long time I've seen it managed wisely (including the one time I had it and muffed it).
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Yeah, good work on the posts Autumn. Who knew that letting dead villagers talk would hurt the wolves so much :D |
Well it makes sense, they don't have to worry about us, and it's rather liberating to be able to post without trying to imagine if you're going to get yourself voted by it.
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I also think it could be illuminating to look back at PF. I don't have a sense on him other than the stuff I looked at above, whereas I've been following Chief all game.
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Is he normally one of he better players? |
I think, without digging it up, that PF had the first vote on Mauboy day 1. Chief adn Martin voted him simultaneously later. So it's interesting to see that we definitely had a lot of wolf on wolf votes to start the game. I suspected that they had decided to try that tack. Those votes therefore no longer help to clear either of those guys.
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"the", not "he", sorry.
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Definitely, Cougar. The fact that he's been so off on his analysis and targets is a big reason I suspect he's a wolf. He's usually spot-on with his analysis as a villager. |
Well, I'll say this. Keeping all the dead people talking has certainly been helpful for a fairly new player.
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It helped to have some voices we knee we could trust, and even more with you two and Crimson having solid analysis. |
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That is where I'm at now as well, although I haven't done the vote/post dive exercise that you've gone through this afternoon. |
I just read back through PF's posts. Really nothing to go by there, I think. The only suspicion he creates is that 1) I don't remember him being this quiet normally and 2) it certainly would be the best wolf strategy to play as quietly as he has. He put in a good vote day 1 and coasted on it until now. His general strategy seemed to be to vote early, and often ended up on a non-candidate. Chief looks more like he was trying to influence votes in the game, PF may have been implementing a "stay out of the vote drama" strategy. Hard to say.
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I'm not a wolf. I am glad mckerney came out as the duke. Since we have a couple days, I think it's about time I get less emotional tripped up in this game, for whatever reason, and back toward my analytical side. So I'll take a look at vote counts myself and see what I can find. I don't know that it will end up any better than what you guys have, but we'll see...
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Go figure, huh? I have to live up to my rep every game, or I tend to disappoint people. I think I played an excellent game in the Vegas game, so this is really just the law of averages. To be fair, there are a ton of truly great players in this community. I could name off ten off of the top of my head without even thinking. I don't think I am better than any one of them. |
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I definately think the PF early vote on mau is no longer clearing either. |
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When's the next deadline for race and werewolf? MOnday?
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I have been admittedly quiet this game, and I apologize for that. I do tend to be quiet more often than not, but definitely more so this week (stupid week-long training sucked the life outta me, lol). I will simply say this...I followed the bandwagon yesterday (Friday) - I didn't want to hit the cunning first, to give us a better chance, and I was amongst those that though GE could be it (hence my quick unvote after voting him) and I didn't want to NOT get a vote in, so I followed hoops' lead with my vote (hence the hit-and-run)
I think my day 1 vote is probably my only saving grace right now, even though it's being questioned right now. If I were a wolf, it would be a pretty ballsy move to open up the voting on a fellow wolf - even on the first day. You never know who is going to gain traction on those days, why would I risk a friend that early? |
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