Sorry about my scant participation today, I was very busy getting my house ready for my brother and his wife to visit. I'll also be out most of the evening as ND has a home hockey game tonight, but I'm hoping to catch the last ca. 10 minutes before deadline.

I'm still mulling over who to vote for right now. The good part of a Gabriel vs. Lucifer choice is that even if I guess wrong, Gabriel doesn't count towards the ratio for villagers vs. wolves, so it's not as bad as lynching a villager. So I think that my vote will almost certainly be for one of the two claimants.

I need a reason to vote St. Cronin.

In normal english

For the time being, I'm going to give cronin the benefit of the doubt for the initial reveal.

VOTE Anxiety
VOTE Anxiety

Me too...hopefully soon so I can vote intelligently before heading out for the night.

Yes, I am 90% sure that either of them could have said it. The Lord has said that Lucifer has the ability to invade my dreams and learn of the prayers I send to Gabriel.

But it was the Butcher who said it properly.

"Ni!"

This is the only way I can truly tell... and my convictions say that I should go with this.

I must take that chance.

We either destroy Lucifer today. Or, if I am mistaken and have been deceived by Lucifer, we destroy him tomorrow. I hold no alliegance to the angels, I have merely asked for their help and patience. Their path to victory true is by completion of the cathedral alone.

Mankind must vanquish the demons AND complete the cathedral as well. I am to lead the flock to victory most certain and victory most true.

VOTE ST.CRONIN

VOTE ST.CRONIN

:rolleyes:

I gave Gabriel a codeword through my prayer. "Ni!".

st.cronin used this when he called me "Nion_Chaos".

But Anxiety used the entire codeword. "Ni!". With the exclamation point and all.

I don't know what these two are up to. But I will have to take the side of the guy who gave me the correct format of the codeword.

Besides, with all the hoopla about the reveal, you would think that Gabriel would have asked for the support of the one guy who could confirm who he was that isn't an angel, right? The bishop is that guy, and Anxiety was the first one to use the codeword.

Either way, we lynch Lucifer today or tomorrow.

I believe that Lucifer is st.cronin.

i am going with his reverance (i was leaning toward that anyway, but his evidence in support of anxiety has put me over the top)

[color=dark orange]vote st cronin
vote st cronin
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Thats pretty flimsy.

It seems to me they both used to codeword

lets try that again
vote st cronin
vote st cronin

so who are you going with...i thought i know your role, so your vote today will definitely affect my decision, possibly more than Neons

Can I just point out that before everyone starts firing off votes we still need to work on the cathedral

I have to go out for dinner and then swing by GameStop to buy MTW 2.

I should be back well before deadlin. However, if something goes wrong, I want to get my votes in.


Vote St.Cronin
Vote St.Cronin

In case I die, I want to give you my thoughts on who the other demons are. I don't know, and I was trying to pull them out, but if I had t place bets now, I;d do so this way: AlanT and PurdueBrad. PB has been way utr this game, never voting so as to prevnt anyone from folloiwng his trail. AlanT has been spatting with st.cronin on several occasions, and that's a good cover too.

good luck

VOTE ANXIETY

VOTE ANXIETY


gotta go with my gut here

:rolleyes: Coming from the guy who shot his wad early today.

We're practically going to get Lucifer today or tomorrow. I am hopeful that it's today. I'm probably dying tonight, unless I get lucky and for some reason I get saved. As long as the villagers win a major victory, I win as well.

If we nail Lucifer today, the villagers/angels can then organize to build the cathedral and lynch the demons in accordance tomorrow.

Sure, based on our public role, but I still considered them hidden -- I mean, we don't know what they are.

Neon -- when did you make that prayer with the codeword?

what does me voting early today have anything to do with everyone piling on Cronin or Anxiety and forgeting to work on the Cathedral?

Who would you say has been putting the most work into the cathedral now?

What still needs to be worked on? I want to use one vote to do that.

now meaning today or now meaning the whole game?

the whole game

off the top of my head I would say PerdueBrad has done the most work

why do you ask?

The very first night.

I'm just trying to garner a little trust while waiting for NC to answer my question.

you just moved up a notch on my distrust list

So before cronin gave the signal, I assume? All I saw was that his message was a long time ago. Anxiety's message came three days later, and cronin's came how much later?

that's cool -- i'm looking for trust from other people besides you, anyway

you sound like some ex girlfriends of mine :)

Look, glad we're getting to the heart of maybe getting a demon tonight or tomorrow. Is there anyone that is willing to double-up Pass' and my work on the cathedral?

For those thinking I'm a demon, I'm not. I believe earlier I pointed out the value of my night actions to the village in preventing damage to the cathedral the night I used my power. Last night I used my power but I don't have the ability to prevent damage, only to cut it in half (this explains why we recovered some damage the one night when my order was forgotten). This means that last night, I didn't stop any damage although I used my power. I have some left but have a feeling that tonight the wolves will be doing some killing.

Again, as for me being UTR this game, I've said it a couple times, you're right but it was for health reasons (which even in a game of deception I wouldn't lie about). I think I've been much more active as I've started to feel better. But if this is enough for some of you guys to lynch me, than fine.

and IMO trying to gain trust by doing the most work on the Cathedral publicly really means nothing. It is actualy a good way to hide by not voting anyone and steering clear of voting patterns when we do nail a demon.

If I'm counting right, we need 4 artwork today and 1 carpentry. Saldana has done 2 artwork and Brad did 1 artwork and 1 carp. I'm going to fill in the last artwork, but I hope someone uses one more action on each in case of sabotage.

WORK ON ARTWORK

VOTE ST CRONIN

My power is totally flickering so I don't know how long I'll be on.

Pass, again, let me say, I'm not implying that you are going to sabotage the cathedral (or that I am!), but doubling up just makes sense. I appreciate you didn't take it that way earlier and hope you don't now. You've done a lot of work so that does help you in my trust although I'm still struggling on my personal COT.

Why else would I be working on the cathedral? I haven't said anything about wanting anyone's trust until now.

I agree. I *want* people to double up on me. I *want* the Cathedral built. In fact, in previous days I've doubled up the work myself, just to be sure parts get done.

Yes, it was before cronin gave the signal.

Cronin used it earlier thank Anxiety, and I picked up on it, assuming that he was Gabriel.

I know it's a flip of a coin, but Anxiety did give the correct codeword.

Looking back at the posts and voting history, I'm basing it on the fact that st.cronin was among those who voted off Chief Rum as well, and Anxiety actually used his 2 votes to work on the cathedral that day (an angel's major victory objective)... I am led to believe that st.cronin is Lucifer.

spelling correction:

*than Anxiety

I agree with you here Lathum, which is why I have not played the "how much work have I done card" but instead stand by my role in lessening the overnight damage. This didn't bother me much about Pass although the implication of what he's trying to draw out with his question is an interesting angle.

Your wrong.

(notice that even though the way I said it may not have been proper, you still got the message -- that can happen sometimes!)

The implication is what half of you have figured out anyway. I am Michah.

And obviously, cronin is Gabriel.

Look at my posts. I've been a freaking cheerleader for this damn cathedral -- which is the angel's victory condition before the villagers. I don't care about killing demons -- in fact if that happens before the cathedral is built, we don't get our major victory.

Okay Pass, I appreciate the fact that you have answered my question in advance, hehe. I was wondering why the work to garner trust now since you weren't in any of the votes but thank you for connecting those dots. It struck me as odd was all but if this is true, I get it.

So hopefully you can help us big time tonight with your Michah powers as I'll just continue to work my specialty.

Oh great. Fucking reveals everywhere.

I feel that we are at an end game on the Demon side, which is why I was afraid a demon might come out and claim themselves to be an angel, if only to save Lucifer and win this game.

I'm not saying you're not who you say you are, but there is too much at stake to change my vote right now.

Exactly. I'd like some help from olie, too.

That's because you have different victory conditions from the villagers. Your unwillingness to change your vote says a lot about what those conditions are.

Haven't I been clear enough on what my conditions are? They're not as different.

I can't allow the villagers to win a minor victory. (Which is a major victory to angels).

The villagers MUST win a major victory for me to win as well.

That's about what we thought they were. That means you should be killing demons. I'm throwing you a bone here.

Here's where we stand at the moment. I will be leaving in about 10 minutes for basketball practice and will return somewhere between 10:15 and 10:30 and will post lynch results at that time.

Artwork – Pass (803), Pass (803), Purdue (804), path (982)
Carpentry – Purdue (804)

Anxiety – st.cronin (917), Mr. W (953), Mr. W (953), Lathum (964), Lathum (964)
Cronin – Neon (940), Neon (940), olie (956), olie (956), saldana (960), saldana (960), Anxiety (963), Anxiety (963), path (982)


Alan T 2
st.cronin 1
Schmidty 2

Look, vote as you will, if you are sure, leave your vote but in all sincerity (and I'm sorry Neon but we need to get this minor victory the way things are going) can we still get at least one more unit on carpentry and one more on artwork? If you trust me, than I'll do the carpentry by myself because I know it'll get done but that is your call.