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The Jackal 05-01-2013 03:58 PM

I'll scan Path, CW - so use the ladies on mau?

mauchow 05-01-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817804)
I suggested it. I fail to see what was wrong with it, as we have more information than if we had all just bid randomly. We know the people that bid as we coordinated did not buy the hitman because they bought other services.



True, would've been better than what happened. I knew there was a potential for hidden roles in this game, but considering we had gone this long without seeing one, I didn't expect something like this.


I didn't mind the organization of bids at all.. great idea. We should have forced the mafia to make a bigger bid than a few bucks. Shoulda made it 100 if possible. We can go there tomorrow. I like I said won a lovely 37 bucks today so I can bid that on top of the monstrous amount I have..

mauchow 05-01-2013 04:01 PM

Don't use on me. Waste of the ladies.

Autumn 05-01-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow (Post 2817808)
Don't use on me. Waste of the ladies.


:eek:

JAG 05-01-2013 04:05 PM

Chief, you should definitely guard Jackal. I assume I will be dead, but he'll either find a wolf or clear another unknown, so it will be worth it.

mauchow 05-01-2013 04:08 PM

Can someone bump the seer scans info?

mauchow 05-01-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2817809)
:eek:


Yeah yeah. Don't want my wife catchin me w the ladies either!

Chief Rum 05-01-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817810)
Chief, you should definitely guard Jackal. I assume I will be dead, but he'll either find a wolf or clear another unknown, so it will be worth it.


Yup, that's what I figured to be doing with the BG.

britrock88 05-01-2013 04:27 PM

I L'ed-OL when I saw my role's goal was to avoid being noticed, given that I tend to be in the running in most lynch votes these days... :p

Good luck, village.

JAG 05-01-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow (Post 2817811)
Can someone bump the seer scans info?


Chief scanned me as good, Narc scanned DV as good. Those are the only scans we have by unknowns of villagers. There was also the Zinto scan on Jackal, but since we know he was a wolf we can't discount that Jackal could be a wolf. Unless there is more than one wolf left, DV and I can only be villagers.

path12 05-01-2013 04:30 PM

I assume this has something to do with using a black market service but someone was apparently messing with my bank account.

Thank god my $18 is safe though.

path12 05-01-2013 04:31 PM

I'm fine with either a scan or the ladies, whichever you gents choose.

JAG 05-01-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2817814)
Yup, that's what I figured to be doing with the BG.


Good deal. I just wanted it out in the open in case something weird were to happen.

JAG 05-01-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2817824)
I assume this has something to do with using a black market service but someone was apparently messing with my bank account.

Thank god my $18 is safe though.


Maybe the mafia favor? Didn't you say you got a pretty crazy notice when you made the most recent black market bid?

Chief Rum 05-01-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2817824)
I assume this has something to do with using a black market service but someone was apparently messing with my bank account.

Thank god my $18 is safe though.


$18? Did you get that from winning the bet? I thought you said you were broke?

path12 05-01-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2817829)
$18? Did you get that from winning the bet? I thought you said you were broke?


Yeah it's from the bet. Had two bets out today.

Coffee Warlord 05-01-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817776)
So we have a black market buyer and one missing bid. Path or Mau amongst unscanned people. CW should use Cookie on one of them, Jackal should scan the other. If we end up with a successful night kill, it clears the person he used Cookie on. If there's a successful night kill and the scan comes up clean, then we have a cunning to deal with.


Forget not Narc. I don't believe he has been scanned either. Admittedly, I'm biased due to him repeatedly calling me out.

path12 05-01-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2817830)
Yeah it's from the bet. Had two bets out today.


Dola, I don't know what I bet with since I had spent all my money on the hitman, but apparently was able to.

path12 05-01-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817828)
Maybe the mafia favor? Didn't you say you got a pretty crazy notice when you made the most recent black market bid?


There wasn't anything about a favor when I got the hitman, but there were things happening to make me confident someone had been in my house, tailing me and bugging my phone -- so I'm sure it is related to that.

mauchow 05-01-2013 04:54 PM

Scan me and do the ladies on the other.

JAG 05-01-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow (Post 2817845)
Scan me and do the ladies on the other.


So you can kill me?

mauchow 05-01-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817823)
Chief scanned me as good, Narc scanned DV as good. Those are the only scans we have by unknowns of villagers. There was also the Zinto scan on Jackal, but since we know he was a wolf we can't discount that Jackal could be a wolf. Unless there is more than one wolf left, DV and I can only be villagers.


Then I scanned zinto.

Yeah. I'm not sure I disagree with anything you're putting together. As long as one of you two is protected tonight there should be little to no chance of losing this thing as long as there is just one mafia left. We should be able to weed them out. If I am still alive I will transfer the money I have to one of you. In hindsight I should have won it today and been giving you money. Ah well.

path12 05-01-2013 05:01 PM

I don't get why you don't want the ladies so much.

mauchow 05-01-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817850)
So you can kill me?


The killer will need to guess which of you two isn't being blocked so...I don't mind being targeted by ladies I guess. But I'm just saying. I didn't win a bid today unfortunately.

I'd love to be cleared but there are two others that should come before me.

mauchow 05-01-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2817852)
I don't get why you don't want the ladies so much.


Gimme the ladies then. Lol... I will be cleared then I guess if someone dies if ladies visit me. I guess that's as good as a scan.

Good call. Gimme the ladies so I live through the night.

mauchow 05-01-2013 05:05 PM

vote dayfall

Chief Rum 05-01-2013 05:13 PM

Mau, not sure you're aware, but we have a known seer for tonight in The Jackal. I have the BG and of course I will be protecting him. So there won't be any "guessing" for the killer, I'm afraid.

Unless you're suggesting I leave the seer unprotected?

Coffee Warlord 05-01-2013 05:15 PM

Ladies are going on mau.

mauchow 05-01-2013 05:15 PM

I see. I hadn't read up on the events of the day apparently :)

mauchow 05-01-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2817864)
Ladies are going on mau.


Yesssss

JAG 05-01-2013 05:57 PM

Going through the scenarios here:

1. No night kill
a. Mauchow was mafia and Cookie prevented kill --- Lynch mauchow + game over (presumably)
b. Mafia declines to use kill and path scans clean --- Lynch mauchow and he comes up good, mafia kills one of Jackal / myself / path leaving two cleared villagers + 4 unknown villagers + 1 mafia (presumably).
c. Mafia declines to use kill and path scans as mafia --- Lynch mafia, game over (presumably)

2. Night kill occurs
a. I die, path scans as mafia --- Lynch path, game over (presumably)
b. I die, path scans as good --- ??
c. path dies --- ??

britrock88 05-01-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow (Post 2817867)
Yesssss


I had them first. ;)

mauchow 05-01-2013 08:24 PM

D. Mau is good bcuz ladies were on me and kill occured. Bigger cot

The Jackal 05-01-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2817916)
I had them first. ;)


sean avery'd

mauchow 05-01-2013 08:30 PM

2d that is

The Jackal 05-01-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817879)
2. Night kill occurs
a. I die, path scans as mafia --- Lynch path, game over (presumably)
b. I die, path scans as good --- ??
c. path dies --- ??


Then we have some examination to do on the non-cleared players (including me). Hopefully one of path/mau is the bad guy, you've played a heck of a villager game and deserve to see it to the end.

The Jackal 05-01-2013 09:01 PM

I'll have time tomorrow morning before work to do some analysis should we not get a fairly obvious resolution from the night activity.

mauchow 05-01-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817823)
Chief scanned me as good, Narc scanned DV as good. Those are the only scans we have by unknowns of villagers. There was also the Zinto scan on Jackal, but since we know he was a wolf we can't discount that Jackal could be a wolf. Unless there is more than one wolf left, DV and I can only be villagers.


I'd be more leary of jackal. I don't want him getting bg/seer. Jackal cleared by zinto who has one last mafia member remaining. Not a reach to believe he'd clear jackal to make us have to rescan him.

The Jackal 05-01-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauchow (Post 2817943)
I'd be more leary of jackal. I don't want him getting bg/seer. Jackal cleared by zinto who has one last mafia member remaining. Not a reach to believe he'd clear jackal to make us have to rescan him.


Would be a waste of a scan, but I'm fine not being the seer going forwards if it makes people feel more comfortable

Coffee Warlord 05-01-2013 09:27 PM

I said it before, I'da preferred JAG go seer out of anyone.

The Jackal 05-01-2013 09:28 PM

I mean, I can see how it wouldn't be a waste from other people's POV, so you're welcome to scan me if we don't win tomorrow, but hopefully we can agree there are better candidates. Like I said, I'll take a look at everything in the morning.

The Jackal 05-01-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2817948)
I said it before, I'da preferred JAG go seer out of anyone.


Yeah, in retrospect that would have been best, but I was just doing as I was told

The Jackal 05-01-2013 09:29 PM

Also, doesn't me buying the seer prove that I didn't buy the nightkill..

The Jackal 05-01-2013 09:30 PM

That's why the plan was devised in the first place, anyhow

JAG 05-01-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2817952)
Also, doesn't me buying the seer prove that I didn't buy the nightkill..


Bingo. If I bought the seer, we wouldn't had to lump Jackal in with Mau and path, now we should be able to rule him out.

JAG 05-01-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817954)
Bingo. If I bought the seer, we wouldn't had to lump Jackal in with Mau and path, now we should be able to rule him out.


wouldn't = would've

mauchow 05-01-2013 09:35 PM

Okay so the cot should be pretty big after tonight then if there is a death.

JAG 05-01-2013 09:36 PM

Even if Jackal's bad, what's he going to do, give a false positive? Then he gets lynched the next day. Give a proper read? Then it's all good too.

mauchow 05-01-2013 09:37 PM

Just hope there isn't a way for mafia to bid on two services. I didn't bid on a service today so..

mauchow 05-01-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2817958)
Even if Jackal's bad, what's he going to do, give a false positive? Then he gets lynched the next day. Give a proper read? Then it's all good too.


Iirc there was a judge that could wipe your record clean...I don't think anyone bid on him though.


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