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Pretty sure the Dems argument has been how difficult it is to vote and how the GOP continues to enact laws to make it harder for Americans to vote.
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He's always talked out of both sides of his mouth. In fact, one of the biggest things that has been discussed is how can people listen to what he says and makes sense of it? It's a combination of his narcissism, love of organized crime, and business. He knows it's about him. He doesn't need to say much of anything, because people around him 'know' what he means. He doesn't need to be specific because supporters will 'read into' exactly what they want to see. That very thing is the entire basis of Q Anon. It is whatever the individual makes it. Rational people read that for what it is and what it says, and it makes no sense at all. It's full of contradictions, but someone who has spent the last 4 years, or is an enabler of his, knows exactly what he means, because it means whatever they think it means. To them. That's it.
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At least we know he agrees that the election was secure and wonderful. That should put an end to the claims of voter fraud, no? |
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Someone's wildly optimistic we're going to have a Biden Presidency :p
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Fortunately, as we all expected, Geraldo Rivera has played a key role in saving our democracy.
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As humans in times of stress we always revert to what we know best, in Trumps case that’s gossiping with D-list wash-ups.
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So at what point does Twitter remove him? I realize it isn't going to happen, but literally every tweet is flagged.
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I'll give it a day before Trump tweenies this. Also, "Committed to talking about all he accomplished" is like being committed to keep eating your favourite food. Good to know, but where is the commitment part ? :confused: |
I am still wondering if there is a point where he admits Biden will be President (not conceding, but something like "I won, but the deep state Democrats stole it") but stays in the office until January 20th.
It feels like his play would be to simply resign and go to Mar A Lago when he stops fighting. But several people say that he really is worried about his creditors and New York prosecutions when he's out of office, which might encourage him to stay in until the last minute. |
He has made it abundantly clear he isn't even going to put up the pretense that he's working.
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Welcome to 2020!
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Eh, that just seems like he's going to try to mess with certification (not "certifiction") if he can.
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I'm pretty sure that on Inauguration Day which he won't attend, he'll throw a rally to state he's running for 2024.
I figure he'll invite as many Republican leaders as possible. He'll also be challenging Fox news with a Trump news program. Most of those at the rally will get COVID. He'll use Trump News to spout his filth since he'll be block from most other news media sites. I hope he goes broke from over extending himself and the legal challenges that should follow. He'll never admit he lost. He'll constantly on his news site foment his followers to resist and destroy any means of stability until he's back in charge. |
CIA director not invited to today’s intelligence briefing.
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I want to laugh, but considering how many people take the fraud allegations seriously, this is not even funny.
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We didn't cover this in HS government class.
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It's too bad Twitter can't vary/get creative with their disclaimers.
"Official sources called this election differently" "This is patently false" "Yet again, this is a complete lie" "Yeah...where to start with this one" "Look, this is just crazy-pants bad" |
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Did a little post moving to consolidate threads a bit. (NO ONE LOST POSTS!)
Moving forward, let's try this... "IF TRUMP LOSES IN NOVEMBER...."--Trump's continued fight against the results of the 2020 election, the finalizing of the electoral college, etc. Discussion here should largely end when he either concedes (HA!) or Biden takes office. "THE BIDEN PRESIDENCY..."--Obviously will be the "moving forward" thread, but I also put the most recent discussion of the Georgia Senate race in there, as it impacts the Biden Presidency tremendously. "THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY"--If by some miracle the President decides to actually govern--rather than whine and sulk--for the next 2 months, I'd expect this thread to remain active. Yesterday's COVID presser made sense to be in here, and speaking of that.... "COVID 19 POLITICAL DISCUSSION"--Merging that entire thread into the Trump Presidency. Once Biden takes over, COVID-19 political discussion belongs in that thread. There's definitely a place for a non-political COVID-19 discussion, but given the national nature of the response, the political pieces of it fit into discussion of the Presidency. |
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That will also be an opportunity for him to see which GOP politicians should be in his crosshairs. Did they attend the inauguration a fake President Biden? Or did they come to his Make America Great Again Again rally? |
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It is sad when all you have left is Rudy as your last line of defense. Turns out trying to overthrow democracy is bad PR for these law firms.
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Does this mean we can see more awesome pressers at places like at the Ritz Carlton Pet Boarding? SI |
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Seems like the most politically expedient thing to do, so I'm sure they'll go down that road SI |
I watched the Netflix documentary on the mafia this week and it featured Rudy's role in bringing down The Commission. Hard to imagine the guy who lead that effort is now Donald Trump's lap dog.
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rudys legacy is a living testament that everything Trump touches dies.
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Can't wait until they find deleted votes in Hunter Biden's laptop. |
That's good news for everyone who expects a peaceful transition. He has screwed up any slim chance Trump had.
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Given that Trump has the best genes and the best health ever, I suppose "DECADES TO COME" makes perfect sense.
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Heh. He finally kinda sorta admits that Biden won, in the same way he told us that he would have admitted that HRC won.
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Of all the right wing shills in the world I think Jesse Waters is the one I would like to punch in the dick the most, and that is saying something.
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Trump's immediate launching of a 2024 campaign is truly a scary prospect for those of the populace looking to fill the hole in their hearts and minds with conspiracies. You thought Pizzagate and Wayfair were a touchstone, a somewhat normal/not super far acquaintance of mine posted, #notmypedophile on Facebook the other day.... of course within 6 months of stating how Trump, as President, is being disrespectfully treated and any President should not be.
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Thinking of this solely from the perspective of GOP presidential hopefuls:
In 2016, things sort of made sense from a game theory perspective for any individual candidate (1) You thought that there was just no way that Trump would actually win the nomination; and (2) it made sense for you to hold your fire on Trump as long as possible b/c you wanted his supporters to turn against the other candidates and come into your camp once Trump went down (It was sort of the opposite of the Dems all coalescing around Biden once it looked like Bernie had a shot) So you can see how that ended up leading to Trump in a collective action failure sort of way But now 2024 is coming. And you know that the guy can win. And you know if no one goes after him, he will get the nomination that you want. You have a lot more information than you did in 2016. So how does it not make sense for the Rubios, Cruzes, etc. to all have a meeting where they agree to take Trump out at the knees pretty soon so that they actually have a shot at the nomination in 2024? |
Can they actually take him out, though?
I mean, they can damage him but he can seemingly take near infinite damage. Plus, I think we've seen they're much happier selling their soul (hah) to be by his side rather than go against him. SI |
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It's basically a giant radicalization engine
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Well, I am known far and wide for my brevity... oh wait :p
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Guttfeld is a close second. The faux indignation they show is just so irritating. It amazes me people thing any of them are even remotely genuine. |
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Once again, "It's the economy, stupid"
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My wife downloaded Parler because her parents are now on it... she lasted 5 minutes before she deleted it.
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If people really want Trump to concede, they need to be pointing out every court loss (think he's up to 25 now) and make sure he thinks that we are laughing at him every time.
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My wife's family has already asked if she's moving to Parler and she told them no. She then got into a into argument with a friend over it because she was trying to tell my wife that Facebook suppresses conservative voices. My wife pointed out that Facebook has Trump donors like Peter Thiel on the board and Zuckerberg has met with Trump multiple times. It went nowhere. She still insisted liberals are given a louder voice on Facebook. The Trump cult thing is getting worse. Reasonable people are refusing to accept facts that go against alt-right talking points. |
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The visual and audio quality reminds me of a local station in Huntington, WV. |
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When conservatism conflicted with democracy, conservatives chose to abandon democracy. I guess it shouldn't surprise us too much what their response would be when conservatism started to conflict with reality. |
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I do think that people are getting way ahead of things predicting the demise of Fox and the rise of OANN/Newsmax/Trump TV/Russian State Television/whatever. Fox has A+ broadcast quality. Fox has A+ marketing arms. Fox is an established player who understands this stuff. Fox hasn't bothered even trying to crush these upstarts in the same way that an elephant doesn't really bother trying to crush a flea. Or Warner Brothers doesn't care about some indie studio in Portland trying to "reinvent movies." But if Fox decides that these Nazi public access guys are competition and starts treating them accordingly, I think that Fox will be just fine. |
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That's what a reasonable conservative friend of mine has said. If they wanted to, they could crush these little upstarts. If Trump doesn't play ball, he thinks Murdoch and the wealthy GOP donors will train all his guns on him and clear out the competition. But so long as they all feed the Fox ecosystem, they're allowed to survive. I'm not so certain - once you've had a hit of that sweet, sweet OANN-esque conspiracy theory, do you need more and more? SI |
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It just seems to always play out the same way. We all bitch about EA and Madden. But anytime someone starts a competing football game, we don't buy it. We all complain about ESPN, but who do we end up watching? We say that Hollywood movies are all cookie cutter and formulaic. But look at where we spend our dollars. |
I mean I'm sure FOX has enough dirt (that would actually move the needle for conservatives) on Trump that they don't have to worry too much. And Fox News is on basic cable unlike OANN and the sort.
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I can only imagine what things on Parler are like because I've seen multiple people post in recent days something to the effect of "patriots on alternative social media sites are prepared to take America back".
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Well if any of them are Realtors they just passed an article to their code of ethics that states that they can't post harassing or hate speech trained at any "protected class," ANYTIME. That's a big change. They used to say it was only when performing their duties as a Realtor but now it's literally any time so.... get ready for some people to touch the fire on Parler and get turned in and lose their license to work as Realtors. For a while, they'll view Parler as fogged windows or curtains but soon they'll find out that it was a screen porch.
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r/parlerwatch has started up. I think it's safe to say that it is exactly what you expect. |
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That's a very informative sub. I just learned that that Dems are tainting donuts with COVID. |
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Tell me more of these donuts you speak of. |
Mmmmmmmm...forbidden donuts.
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Its the perfect explanation. The donuts give you diabetes, then the tainted one gives you the rona, when you die of the rona it was because you had a pre existing condition.
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They're pretty ordinary. Except for the COVID sprinkles. |
my money's still on bullet to the head. As far as who does it, that's still up for grabs
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Rudy wants 20k a day to represent Trump. How can Rudy believe that Trump will ever pay him?
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If he does manage to somehow get his coup through, good money says this comes up in Senate within the next four years. Lifetime immunity and resetting term counts? They’ll be all over that!
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I'm not sure what's going to happen first - me damning this country to hell, or it going straight there on its own.
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That punts it over to the Secretary of State for certification. As far as Biden winning goes, it does nothing, but this just further cements the fact that we're unlikely to have another normal election.
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He effing won Michigan by 150K votes and there's not been a single credible allegation of fraud.
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The last election was an 11k difference and not a peep. Fuck this political party
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There is absolutely no consequence for bad behavior any longer. Not held accountable by voters because everyone is so partisan and laws are only selectively applied or enforced. If leaders have no fear of consequence from the people they represent or the law, we are headed in a real bad direction.
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And it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. If dems fight back then it's "both sides" and "respect democratic norms". If they don't then we don't have a democracy and it's dems fault for not putting forward better candidates. |
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Right and the SecState of Michigan said she'd certify the votes regardless of what the County does. |
Dems could at least have a coordinated message of outrage. Staying silent and moving on won't dissuade the GOP from going further next time.
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That and the fact we have an outgoing president actively trying to tank the economy, cause crises around the world that could actively lead to war and screw over American citizens just to scorch the earth for the next guy because he can't handle losing.
After the initial relief of Biden winning, the last few days has firmly got back into "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" territory to be perfectly honest. We've maybe got a reprieve for 2 or 4 years and we're right back here in 2024 is the best case scenario. |
4 years is just long enough for me to get my shit together and move out of this shithole country
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I told my wife 3 months ago that after the election, I was going to put in motion step 1 of my Canada 2030 plan. I wasn't joking, and even though Trump didn't win, I don't see any reason not to start the due diligence.
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We've been kicking this around, too. Not so easy, though
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You will be shocked to find that one of the guys has a ton of racist Facebook posts and seems sort of in on Q. |
We backed off our plans after the Biden win (even finalizing our refi we've had in the fire for a while and making some other long term things) but I wish I'd stuck more to my guns to be honest. My wife could work in one of 20 countries worldwide if she wanted with a few months notice and as a fallback I have a UK passport (which is obviously a lot less valuable than it was a year ago as well, which is almost as depressing)
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My wife was offered a role in England with her company. We could live in the same town as her sister and our nieces, brother in law, and his family. Had Trump won we would have given it serious thought. |
Wayne County reverses course and unanimously certifies. A few minutes after, Trump send a tweet praising them for not certifying. Oops.
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Options #1: They may have checked their social media as their names, workplaces became common knowledge and decided it wasn't worth committing hari-kiri for the Fanta Menace #2 The Secretary of State told them it was going to happen anyway #3 They remembered they live in Detroit and would eventually have to go outside. |
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