It must be ironic to Jon that Deion Sanders is the adult in the room when it comes to the response to the late hit by that Colorado State player:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/s...85327504568384

Even easier to say now but I think it was more likely ND would have brought in another Sam Hartman (/Jack Coan) instead of starting Buchner. Or maybe even Minchey had passed him... idk, I don't know what happened after that Sophomore year of HS and whether it was injuries or the missed COVID reps but Buchner was always terrible. Decent athlete but not nearly as good as he thought he was combined with horribly inaccurate, I was very glad Pyne took over and he's not a real Power 5 QB either but at least he could hit Mikey Mayer when he was open.

We'll see what happens Saturday but I've loved Hartman so far, and not too surprised after seeing him at Wake. He's a little old, a little short, and not as dynamic as others he's just super accurate, reads defenses very well, and doesn't make a lot of throwing mistakes. (Pocket presence/ball security does need a bit of work.) I watched the guy the last two years losing the rare game at Wake when they'd score 45 or 55 vs Clemson or UNC, just really wish we still had a Mayer or elite WR with how good he's making also rans like Holden Staes look.

I don't really pay attention to recruiting, but I did read somewhere that during the missed covid year he worked with some coach to rework his throwing motion and he has never been the same since.

Coastal Carolina gets a head start on this week's action with a game tonight against Georgia State at 7:30 on ESPN. Probably a good thing because the weather may be iffy all weekend. Interstingly enough they have never beaten them at home and never lost on the road. QB McCall has also never faced them at home, and looks to be healthy for tonight's game.

Again, stolen from reddit, but pretty well describes my thoughts:

"I love how this all started with "why shouldn't athletes be allowed to have twitch streams/be paid for NCAA video games/be able to do ads" etc. And it INSTANTLY (like within the first week) turned into pay-for-play, collectives etc. with some actual NIL compensation sprinkled in here and there. Now, a few years later, the (wealthy) institutions are ready to just do away with the NIL fiction and start paying them directly (courtesy of FOX et al).

Regardless of how you feel about player compensation, those NIL chicken littles concerned about NIL giving way to a slippery slope of direct pay-for-play were 100% correct."

The NCAA treated NIL the same way record companies treated streaming. Ignored it until it was too late.

Yup. The ball was in their court for years, and they could have made moves to have control of how things went for a couple of decades. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand while the sky came down on them.

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Dola: and it was the deep pocket boosters that stopped them for doing anything all that time, and whose money is now pouring in to the NIL's.

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It's always funny seeing people complain on the Michigan board whenever an SEC school makes an NIL splash, then (and I don't know if it's the same people - I hate that claim) it goes unchallenged when people want to promote Michigan's efforts to put together an NIL factory.

I've felt from the beginning that this is a transition period. NIL as it stands now is easily corrupted and organized gambling is heavily involved, whether it's showing up on the field yet or not.

Too much money out there. And when nine million people tune into a late-night game on ESPN to see Colorado/Colorado State, that money is justified. We are a football country and major college football is second to the NFL.

These kids probably should be employees. Contracts, health care, even pension of a sort because health care for athletes is a long-term issue. The NCAA can't do this because major college football is 1% of its business and what works for major college football most certainly doesn't work anywhere else.

I get why they've buried their heads in the sand. Once the kids are employees, it's no long rah-rah-rah for the alma mater. It's something else. Maybe that transition works, too. Maybe it doesn't.

You could almost certainly go back quite a few years and find me here repeatedly saying some variation of "y'know what? screw it, just make them employees of the marketing department since that's what they really are anyway"

Tax 'em, drug test 'em, give them only the discounts that other employees would get for taking classes, treat them same as any other marketing department employee.

Sadly the magic wasn't there for them last night and they lost pretty badly. :( McCall was good,but he doesn't have enough playmakers around him. The defense was bad giving up 36 points.

I glanced at the stats and would never have guessed the final score. Not that they clearly should have won, but the stats suggested a closer score, maybe even a win. +1 on TOs, +30 on yards, 3rd/4th down efficiency was in GSU's favor but only 8-15 to 6-15 (hardly fatal), both teams punted 3 times, and despite being out-rushed, CCU actually had the edge in TOP (although 3 fewer 1st downs). Definitely doesn't scream 30-17 loss.

I have a bad feeling that Georgia State is going to beat Tech to start next season.

Go Sun Belt!

Seeing Tech play football is a leading cause of those sorts of feelings.

All I have to say is, as good a job as Norvell did this offseason in upgrading with transfers and some coaching moves (like upgrading the DB coach who was let go to Arkansas), his insistence on keeping Adam Fuller was going to sink this season for FSU. And that is proving true yet again. His loyalty to that guy is going to end up in this being a really good season instead of an ACC/NC-contending season. This is playing out exactly like I thought. Only positive I see is that FSU has proven to be a decent 2nd half team so they can still dig out of this. But Fuller sucks as a DC. He is the weak link.

Too many games this week. Need more eyes.

Iowa wearing alternate Unis tonight. Well, wearing black pants instead of gold.

If you can legally bet I would bet Iowa plus the points and the under.

Im already flipping and its the light part of the schedule.

Ummmmm.....I think that is a sideline penalty?

So THAT’s what the 12th man means https://t.co/ncK7QrMIo5

— Jordan D. Hill (@JordanDavisHill) September 23, 2023

End of that game was something. FSU play calling was like a 12 year old that only runs bombs in Madden. Clemson - not sure what that was.

Bad. It was bad.

I will take it.

But Jordan Travis is clearly not right. I know he's got a left shoulder issue, but he didn't put himself on the line at any point, even when it was needed. And we still won.

This is why I like being the noon game. Win or lose, I can enjoy the rest of the games without stressing about the late game. It was a win-win for me today.

I like the Oregon black helmets. It made me contrast the other game I'm watching, and made me ask the question "has Alabama ever wore an alternate uniform?"

Ole Miss just carved up the Bama defense. If they don't shore things up, this is going to be a bad day for them.

Go Oregon. Crush Prime!

from al dot com

Texas Tech QB just went down with what appeared to be a non contact broken ankle on his front leg when planting to pass. I've never seen anything like it. He got popped pretty hard on the previous play while running and got up a little slow, but nothing would indicate the ankle would just snap like that 1 play later.

This Oregon game might get out of hand.

From your mouth to God's ear

Colorado looks like they learned how to tackle from Deion.

I’ve always thought that it’s odd that as long as you touch the ball, you are allowed to absolutely destroy the punter.

"They're fighting for clicks, we're fighting for wins"

The Ole Miss QB needs to get a better strap for that helmet.

Oregon leads Colorado 35-21 at the half

That'd be points versus yards.

:D

Portland State had 200 yards and 7 points vs. Oregon in their 81-7 loss.

Can Colorado match them?

Something tells me Milroe is going to end up transferring to a G5.

EDIT: Although that was a nice throw.

Shadeur Sanders has 32 yards of offense through 3 quarters

The game gets an asterisk I'm sure since T. Hunter isn't playing

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The cherry on top for Oregon is they get credit for a top 20 win.

Meanwhile on Fox, a commercial for next week's "biggest game of the year, Colorado against USC!"

Bama is beyond ripe to have been picked ... but there may not be many (LSU perhaps) who can actually pick 'em

I'm honestly not sure they could get across the 50 against Georgia

I guess no more Heisman hype for Sanders?

Oh look. Alabama is leaning on the defense and has a 39-21 run pass ratio.

That was really all they had to figure out in the 2nd half, stop trying to throw the damned ball & run it right at an overmatched (even against a subpar OL) OM defense.

And bless him, Jaxon Dart doesn't lack for trying, he just lacks for ability.
But he ain't him.

What an amazing catch. And it looked like targeting on top of it.

OH MY!!!! WHAT A CATCH @S1ickSzn ��

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— Florida Gators Football (@GatorsFB) September 23, 2023

Wow. He was able to palm that while getting nailed.

This is such a great Twitter follow.

The Oregon mascot with the girlfriends of all the Colorado players tonight pic.twitter.com/i3pjyqi9Uq

— Hubie Talks Hoops (@HubieTalksHoops) September 23, 2023

Also, how did Herm Edwards have Jayden Daniels, Johnny Wilson and Ricky Pearsall and still suck?

They were being coached by Herm Edwards probably covers it.

I didn't see it, but people are saying Marvin Harrison's ankle moved in a way that ankles aren't supposed to move.

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I don't watch a ton of college football, but when I do, the craziest thing is how wide open wide receivers are on good teams. It looks so easy to be a QB.

There's a reason this board is still my favorite place on the internet.

I mean, he's no Deion Sanders, that's for sure.

One or two plays left in Notre Dame-Ohio State for the game winner to come?

3 man rush and no one covers downfield. Brutal.

That was so obvious ND was going to blow that after the offensive series they had.

Meanwhile, Pearsall's amazing catch aside, I just saw that UF managed 1 TD and 5 FGs against Charlotte.

I’m done. I didn’t even go to school at ND. So sick of almost wins and blow outs.

OK, just a hypothetical here.

In this specific situation - TD with only a few seconds left and a 2 point lead - rather than kicking the XP, wouldn't the better decision have been to send the offense out to go for 2, but take a knee? 1 second left, there's really no chance at a FG to beat you and a TD wins it regardless of the XP. However, if you screw up the XP, they can tie the game with a return.

Probably, yeah.

Yup. They really need to accept who they are. They are not the ND of the late 80s or 1960s-70s. They basically are a very good MAC team. No disrespect meant to MAC team fans.

10 men on the field for the last play. Genius.

Manti Te'o's GF is the 11th player.

Also apparently it was the last 2 plays.

I'll never understand a three-man rush in those situations. OSU has the receivers to get open and fight for the ball. Leave McCord a clean pocket and an extra second or two, and you've made life a lot harder on yourself.

Given what Penn State just did to Iowa (Ferentz didn't get any closer to his points goal), Michigan might be #2 currently in the country, but they could be third-best in their own division. Hard to say since their style and the level of their opponents has led to four rather sleepy 3X-Y results.

Iowa shut out for the 1st time since 2000

from RedditCFB twitter

And the Notre Dame fan said, “Lord, during most of the game I noticed 22 footprints in the grass, but during the most difficult times I noticed only 20, were you carrying us then?”

And the Lord sayeth, “Lol, no buddy your coach sent ten dudes out.”

Iowa managed 33 plays in a regulation football game. They possessed the ball for less than a quarter.

Iowa fumbled on 18% of their snaps. That is a crazy stat.

One thing that really stuck out yesterday after watching games all day - coaches are still terrible at managing the clock and timeouts.

I mean they made money on the under tho

Can you still return blocked XP's/pick 2's or fumbles on 2pt attempts for 2 points? I know they changed it in either the NFL or NCAA to where you couldn't for no discernible reason, but could never keep it straight which one.

Overall I'm happy with where ND is at despite how painful the ending was. Ohio State has like 10 of the top 70 NFL draft prospects, ND wasn't hyped coming into the season and lacks a gamebreaking WR or TE (would kill to have had Mikey Mayer come back and play with Sam Hartman for this year), and it wasn't a fluke. A playoff berth may still even be attainable with a primetime game at Duke next week, USC, and a couple other tough road games in Louisville and Clemson on the schedule.

The new clock rules are really noticeable and I think really beneficial to teams who play like ND (but not heavy favorites) and we have a better chance at a title under them. Saw it with South Carolina/Georgia the week before too, if you can pick up first downs you can really shorten the game vs a better team with an explosive offense. The ND team that lost to Clemson in the playoff semi's a few years back had a better defense, just broke eventually under the onslaught of chances Trevor Lawrence had to throw to elite WR's. I wonder if Saban will also make the move back to playing like that once he gets a real QB again, or if they stick with the high octane offenses because of how much space you can eventually find against college defenses.

You mean like this hypothetical from 20 years ago. No, I'm not still bitter about it.

the craziest college football ending that nobody talks about - YouTube

Fun facts: the Furman QB is current Florida head coach Billy Napier... so that should explain some things.

Also, the wideout who caught the TD is Bear Rhinehart, lead singer of Grammy nominated band Needtobreathe.

(I looked it up, does appear to be legal in NCAA and the NFL is where you can't return them.)

The numbers just get better:

NBC Sports got its largest regular-season college football audience in 30 years Notre Dame-OSU.
Averaged 10.5 million viewers, ranking as NBC Sports’ second-most watched regular season college football game ever, behind Notre Dame-FSU in 1993 (22 million viewers).

— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) September 25, 2023

This USC game might get ugly. It is only 14-0 with USC scoring again late 1st qtr but USC is able to do anything they want on offense with three of CUs starting secondary guys out.

Pat Forde tried to say Colorado isn't that bad because the teams they've beaten are undefeated since Colorado beat them.

Wins since being beaten by Colorado
TCU: Nichols State, Houston, SMU
Nebraska: Northern Illinois, Louisiana Tech
CSU: MTSU

Not exactly a murderers row.

Ray Davis has over 200 yards rushing for UK vs UF and there's still 9 minutes left in the 2Q.

AND he caught a TD pass

He tryin to get Billy Napier fired all by himself lol

Leary has continued to look underwhelming which is surprising. I thought he was a great pick up but he seems to be the weak link.

Set aside games in 2022 against UConn and Chas Southern, he threw 3 TD/3 INT. And was around 60% completion rate.

The notion that he has plateaued, if not regressed, isn't entirely without merit.

Florida had 13 guys on the field, and Ray Davis still scored a touchdown.

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I think at some point today there are legitimate questions being raised about the USC defense and whether it's good enough for them to be a real contender for anything.

Not sure if it can beat Washington and Oregon back to back near the end of the season.

Well, last week proved the ten on the field doesn't work, so 13 doesn't seem entirely unreasonable lol

The knives may not be entirely out in full view for Sam Pittman but they're definitely being sharpened.

Barring a sudden turnaround, a middlin bowl this year and a slow start next year and there might be a vacancy sooner than later

Spoiler alert - it can’t. And a misplaced sense of loyalty to his buddy will cost Lincoln Riley a chance at a national title with the best college quarterback he will ever get.

The Grinch who stole the BCS

Well this is fun

Just to repeat

Lincoln Riley defense: 404 File Not Found.

As usual.

If Colorado’s OC had the buffs covering and wanted to protect it at the end of the game, it would look like that. I mean just unbelievably bad clock management.

Another fun Iowa offensive stat; Army's top 2 WRs have 458 yards receiving before today, Iowa QB Cade McNamara has 459 passing yards. Yeah, I said Army.

Brock Bowers, man.

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Right now more like a one man team.

But, ya know, covering him would be an idea. Not one that Auburn considered apparently.

LSU-Ole Miss getting scrappy. Fans are throwing things on the field.

SEC officiating has surpassed the Pac-10 levels that used to be a meme.

edit to add: I honestly feel bad for Oxford PD tonight, it's gonna be a rough one downtown after this game. And the $50 (and up) cover charges for every bar downtown mean a lot of people will be on the streets with two of the heaviest drinking fan bases around.

I hope the bail bonds people got plenty of sleep today.

Who put Big XII in my SEC?

Crazy ending forthcoming in Oxford