Damnit, missed everything because of a lunch date, sorry fellas =(

vote Danny

not a fan of his D1 vote.

No votes from CR, mccollins and RendeR?

Not a fan of 3 no votes. One conveniently shows up right after the night action is revealed.

vote RendeR

eed to try to get seomthing out of the non-voters and he at least had the misfortune of showing up first after the results.

Sorry about the lousy typing in that last post.

Damnit, I was going to protect hoops too. :P

3 non voters certainly doesn't make it easy to anylize stuff

EF, for what its worth, I work from 2-10pm, I had just gotten to the office and had to talk to the super and some students. Not really an intentional arrival. I had lunch with Telle right before coming in. Sorry man.

I'll be around most of the night, love to hear some feelings about anyone and everyone so I can get my bearings on this game.

Sadly this vote really tells us nothing as it was villager vs. villager. Unfortunately it was the roled villager that lost out.

Lathum was the only one changing, or dealing to change, but he seemed to do that after I made my intentions clear of giving Jackal a chance to change his vote off me which brought Lathum into the mix for voting risk.

This leaves my suspicion with those not voting along with Danny's third party vote.

I could also be getting set up for my comments I made in analysis of the Charmed game by the hoops night kill (that I was impressed with hoops analysis as a villager that game and may think about taking him out night one the next time I am a wolf). That gives me a group to begin looking at. Of course I may just be over-analyzing which seems to be my pattern.

:(

Mea culpa. Maybe I could have saved him. Which is silly, because I was planning to vote for him.

Let this be a lesson to you all. If you're feeling a little under the weather, do not take Sudafed PM late at night. It will knock you out for a while. I didn't wake up until after deadline. Good Lord! :eek:

I do wish The Jackal had revealed earlier, although I understand why he didn't considering he hadn't been in danger to that point.

I would really like to know why Lathum would go this distance for EF, whom he can't as a villager know anything about, as to do a last minute switch to save him. I would excuse is at as nothing, except the Cop was killed because of it. But it would also be pretty damn bloody obvious if he is a wolf.

My apologies folks. I had been on around noon trying to decide where to put a vote; I went to lunch and then looked at the clock and realized I was 10 minutes late for a 1pm meeting.
Won't happen tomorrow - we can't afford to lose another role like today.

Damnit!

Oh well, good luck villagers. Sorry that I was not around today and that I will not be around going forward.

I understand your thinking, but I disagree. By leaving my vote I am clearly standing out from the group and assuming EF is a villager, it would be smart to just go with the group on the villager/villager run off if I was a wolf. Of course if EF is bad, that makes me look more suspicious I think. I also left my vote because I wasn't able to be around and in case of reveals or whatever would not be able to change my vote.

This I agree with. You have a favorite nonvoter to vote for today?

Back from my day out of the office - and not too pleased with the result. Wish I could have been around at deadline, but alas, hindsight is 20/20. Let's rectify this today and beat some wolf ass :)

How do you suggest we do that?

I haven't a clue at this point.

I'm fine joining this vote, but since I don't want the first two votes to both be on the same person, I'll vote for a different no voter:

Vote mccollins

Barring a revelation, I will be voting for someone who didn't vote yesterday.

I'm not really sure how to answer which non voter is the best way to go. I hate opening the can of worms that someone is lying about something that happened in real life.

Unless something changes I think my vote stays on Danny who is the only one that steered clear of the chaos from yesterday.

I'll be gone for the day soon. I really hate having to put out these early votes and then not be around until after deadline. I'm fine with voting Render or Mccollins. If there becomes more support for me you'd only lose a regular villager.

Vote Mccollins

And why would a wolf try and stand out from the crowd that early? It makes no sense.

Regardless this game is not much fun for me because of the deadline, so I won't put up too much of a fight.

it's easy to cast a day 1 vote like yours then hide behind it, something a wolf would do for sure.

IF I was the seer I would have scanned you D1 so maybe we will find something out

I am out until after deadline.
I was hoping for more discussion before I left but no such luck.

Vote count?

I don't know if I'll go for a non-voter or a bad-voter (though I'm hardly one to talk)

Vote Count:
2 - McCollins - Barkeep (120), Danny (122)
1 - RendeR - EagleFan (105)
1 - Danny - Lathum (102)

I see that I'll have to put a self-defense vote out there sometime soon.

I apologize again for missing the deadline yesterday, but I don't fib about real life stuff in WW.

I'm taking the self defense direction with this vote, better to put someone two votes ahead of me than to create a tie.


VOTE MCCOLLINS

RendeR, I re-read your posts and I don't have any reason not to believe your explanation of your non-vote yesterday. FWIW

Lathum: Do you think we had villager/villager yesterday?

I don't think we did.

FWIW I don't think we had villager/villager, I know we had villager/villager.

Also for the record I am not casting doubt on RendeR's reasons for a non-vote, or anyone's for that matter, just that it was a non-vote. Especially with the fact that we had over 24 hours to get that vote in.

Well, it's 1:30 and I see that there hasn't been much movement. I don't have much a vibe from anyone, but Danny isn't coming back so I'll
Vote RendeR
To attempt to save myself. It's better for the village this way. Someone please help me here!

Can we think about Lathum's moves from day one a bit. Just want to think this through a bit.

He votes for me to at that time break the tie. After I change my vote to him (hoping to give the non-voters a third party legitimate choice) he says that he is fine with switching to Jackal if I do so.

If he were a wolf who happened to be casting what was then a deciding vote it now takes him out of the conversation as he was now moving his vote because of a deal and nothing more. If he is a wolf he knows that it's villager/villager so he doesn't care which of us it is.

If he is a wolf and believes me when I say that if it's going to be a villager it might as well be me since I have no role he may be rolling the dice that maybe the other villager has a role.

I don't like the non-votes yesterday in the least but how often does that really come into play with a wolf?

Either I was played like a fiddle yesterday or I am reading too much into it. If I'm wrong feel free to lynch me next (though it won't help our cause).

unvote RendeR

vote Lathum

I'm not really sold on either of you two.

Anyone around?

Just got out of a meeting (actuaslly had that last post typed up prior to the meeting but hit send and had timed out had to get right into the meeting at that point) and have to head out for a couple minutes. Will remain for a couple more minutes to discuss if anyone wants to discuss something.

I vote for RendeR and Eagle moves his vote off?

Yes?

I have a great new model "EF is a villager". What do I have to do to get you to walk out of here today with it? ;) Sorry, you wanted to be sold.

3 currently not voting: CR, Heinz, and PF.

That would make 2 days in a row for Chief Rum. Heinz is in thread, and Packer sounds like he doesn't trust Eagle.

I need to move my vote to save myself for the sake of the village.

Didn't look to see when you voted him but I intended that move over an hour ago but as I mention in an earlier post my session timed out and didn;t post when I hit submit. Had to go into a meeting so I couldn't actually do it until I got out.

(Out of Game)I hope everything is okay with CR, it sounded as if he actually was going to be more available for playing during the day this week.(/Out of the Game)

Come on folks, don't you see the need to move your vote off me?

Not really
I'm in fact thinking of just making that moot.

I really can't see how any of our candidates stick out to be honest, including you.

Holy crap - almost forgot deadline was in 10 minutes. Voting now...

I don't think mccollins is the way to go. The only reason to vote against a no-vote day one for me would be lack of participation. I can't see a no-vote tactic being a good wolf play at this point. The RendeR vote was to get the talk going and he at least looked the most suspicious of the non-voters as he showed up right after the night action was announced.

VOTE RENDER

I am not really sold on any of the candidates out there, so instead of bringing in a new one, I will see if this gets some movement.

Lathum, Lathum, Lathum....

I mean, come on, he's a Giants and Mets fan.... :)